The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Episode 8 - The Book of Rumors
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00:01When I'm gone, I'm never really gone
00:04You think you're moving on
00:06But it won't be for long, you'll see
00:09When I'm gone, I'm never really gone
00:12You think you're moving on
00:14But no one's gonna feel like, feel like
00:21I'm really close to my due date. I can go into labor at any moment.
00:24I should be happy, but I'm not because
00:27I have taken a break from Dakota since Vegas
00:30and on top of that, Macy told me
00:33about a DM she received in her anonymous messages.
00:36I can read it to you. You want me to read it to you? Yeah.
00:38They said, I accidentally slept with Dakota
00:41before I knew he and Taylor were together
00:44and I only met Taylor once and I'm terrified to tell her
00:47but I feel like she has a right to now help.
00:49One, it's making me emotional and two, I'm like getting angry.
00:51I'm like, it's embarrassing, like we're this close
00:54and with that DM, I of course want to know, is this true?
01:03Hello? Hey, what are you doing?
01:06Just opening a new diaper trash can for the baby.
01:10Oh, that's cool. Yeah, what are you doing?
01:13I'm just calling you to see how things went in Vegas.
01:17Oh my gosh.
01:20I don't know, I feel like it was more stressful trip
01:23like a fun one. Oh really, why?
01:26Macy got a message saying, hey,
01:29I accidentally slept with Dakota
01:32while he was with Taylor. I've only met her once
01:35but I feel like she should know and so...
01:39What? Do you really think that that could be the case?
01:43In my head, I'm like, I would hope that you're not this dumb
01:48and so I won't stay with him and I don't care what anyone says.
01:51I would rather be co-parenting than to live with a liar.
01:56Have you talked to him about this?
01:59Did he say he didn't do this, that somebody's making it up?
02:03I haven't confronted him. I haven't confronted him.
02:06I just found this out. I haven't seen him.
02:09You haven't? No, he's coming over right now.
02:14I don't know, maybe in my head I'm like, there's no way this could be true
02:18but at the same time, I have thought that it could have been this girl, Jenna.
02:22Dakota obviously has said no, we did not sleep together.
02:25He told me he saw her, they kissed and that was that.
02:28Taylor, if you found out today that Dakota lied
02:31and actually slept with Jenna that night, would you leave him
02:34even though you were having his baby?
02:36100,000% would be dead to me.
02:39Really?
02:41I couldn't help to think that it is Jenna
02:44because one, I've only met her one time, which the DM states
02:47and it was right when we were beginning in the dating, so the two added up.
02:51I just wish you really should have thought about everything before all of this, though.
02:56It's pretty sad. This is not good, Taylor.
03:00To bring another child into this world with so much chaos.
03:04It breaks my heart, honestly.
03:06You guys need to get your crap together.
03:09Yeah.
03:14Oh, hi.
03:16Hi.
03:18I know, he's here, so can I just call you back?
03:21Yeah.
03:22Okay.
03:23Let me know what's going on.
03:25Okay, I will.
03:26Alright, love you.
03:27Okay, I love you, bye.
03:28Bye.
03:30Hi.
03:31Hi.
03:32Is that your mom?
03:33Yeah.
03:34She basically is saying that we need to get our shit together.
03:39Yeah.
03:40Because it's just unfair to this baby.
03:42I agree.
03:44That we should just get our stuff together?
03:48Yeah.
03:51I really just want to clear the air with Dakota.
03:53But it's making me want to cry every day because this is exactly what I've been afraid of this whole time.
03:59I just feel really tired and fed up.
04:01Macy got this DM I think a while back and she's been debating to tell me.
04:05And it's about me?
04:09Yes.
04:14Come ye saints and come ye sinners.
04:18Alleluia.
04:22Listen up.
04:24I'm the one you've been dreaming of.
04:27I got everything you could ever want.
04:31Try me in your sleep.
04:33I'll bring you to your knees.
04:35Baby, you're gonna believe.
04:37Take this up.
04:40Take this up.
04:41Take this up.
04:42Take this up.
04:43Take this up.
04:44Take this up.
04:45Take this up.
04:46Take this up.
04:54Macy got this DM and she was like, I don't know if I want to tell you.
04:58I know you're so close to your baby.
04:59But if I were you, I'd want to know.
05:01What did she say?
05:03I called him like, the confession.
05:07That's so dumb.
05:12Again, it's just the same issues over and over again,
05:17and it's so annoying.
05:20For all I know, Macy, I feel like,
05:23would do that to me, first off.
05:26Whoever it is, it's not true.
05:29Of course I have to sit here and wonder.
05:31When Macy's asking me, my mom's asking me,
05:33do you think this is true, in my head I'm like,
05:35my answer is I hope he's not that dumb.
05:38You're going to lose everything
05:40if it happened for any reason to be true.
05:43This is not true. I don't know what you want me to do.
05:46It's like, it's putting me in these stupid-ass positions
05:49that I shouldn't have to be put in.
05:51I just, I need some context with this.
05:57The two girls before, those I've already told you, okay?
06:01The message, if this is stating that I've cheated on you
06:04since I've dated you in our relationship, not true.
06:08That is it. That's it. There it is.
06:11100%, Taylor. 100%.
06:16So nothing?
06:17Yeah, you want context?
06:18What context do you want me to give you?
06:20Besides, it's not true.
06:21I just want you to sit here and think if there's anything.
06:23I don't need to think about it. I don't need to think about it.
06:25I don't need to think about it. That's the thing.
06:27I don't have to think about that.
06:29But it's been a while, so maybe, like, if you forgot.
06:31Taylor.
06:33I guess my point is, is, like, I just, you know, you know
06:37that one way or the other, if anything went down,
06:39I will find out regardless.
06:40Good, okay, perfect. I hope, I hope so.
06:43Like, this is what I love, like, good.
06:44You're well aware that if it does, what happens?
06:46And vice versa.
06:47What happens if it does?
06:48And vice versa.
06:49See, threats, like, that's all it is, though.
06:51You just sit here and you make these threats.
06:53I ain't sticking around. I ain't staying with you.
06:54I ain't doing this.
06:55There's reasonings.
06:56Like, if this happened to be true,
06:57then yes, I wouldn't want to be with you.
07:00Honestly, after the whole swing scandal, my life blew up.
07:04That was my rock bottom.
07:05And Montauk, I thought, was going to fall apart.
07:08And with Dakota, everything just moved so fast.
07:11Got into a new relationship, got pregnant.
07:14I want to trust Dakota.
07:15It's just, when you've been lied to that many times,
07:20it's really hard to trust somebody.
07:23Like, it's as simple as that.
07:27You say this stuff to me 24-7.
07:29This is what I'm saying.
07:30So it's clear.
07:31No, not even about this.
07:32Like, I'm just hearing this 24-7.
07:33Like, I'm sick of hearing it.
07:35I don't like hearing it all the time.
07:36What, if that were to come out?
07:37No, about anything.
07:38Like, I'm never hearing that you're sticking around.
07:41So that's the issue.
07:42I'm never hearing that you're sticking around.
07:45It is just, like, fearful.
07:47You have a baby coming, and it's still not resolved.
07:49So, of course, with all of our shit,
07:51we do need to get it figured out for not only ourselves,
07:54but for our kid coming.
07:55And so I'm, like, scared.
07:57I'm very scared.
07:59My point was, is you know that if anything does come out...
08:03You're going to end things with me?
08:05Yeah, 100%.
08:23Hello?
08:24Basie?
08:25Yes, Dakota.
08:27Dakota, is this you?
08:29Yeah.
08:30What's up?
08:31Um, like, I don't know if you're down for this,
08:33but I would just love if I could, like,
08:35talk to you for a little bit.
08:37In person, if you can.
08:39This is because of the thing you shared.
08:41About the confession thing I got?
08:43Yeah.
08:44Dakota has never reached out to me, ever.
08:47So I am shocked, to say the least.
08:49Okay, yeah, I can meet up for a little bit.
08:52I will admit, I'm a little nervous to meet up with him
08:54one-on-one after I saw how intense he can be
08:56and how loud he gets when he has these conversations.
08:59But he shouldn't be getting mad at me,
09:00he should be getting mad at himself.
09:04Oh, gosh, I have anxiety now.
09:16Bitch, I'm here.
09:21Oh, jeez, you scared me.
09:22Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you.
09:30Okay, well, I feel weird.
09:31I know.
09:32Just sitting here.
09:33Should we, like, get a soda or a coffee?
09:35Yeah, whatever you want.
09:36I don't know what your time frame is,
09:37so, like, honestly, I'm down for that, if that's better.
09:39Okay, I have, like, 15 minutes.
09:41Okay, that's, honestly, that's all I need.
09:46Um, thank you again.
09:48Yeah, sure.
09:49Meeting with me, I appreciate it.
09:50I feel so, uh, stressed right now.
09:53Yeah, I would assume so.
09:54Just with everything, right?
09:56You're about to meet your dad.
09:57That's what I'm saying, okay?
09:58Dude, this is not good.
10:01What's not good?
10:02The situation with you and Taylor?
10:04Are you talking about specifically the connection?
10:06Yeah, the situation, yeah, with the question.
10:08But, I mean, yeah, with me and Taylor, too, now.
10:10Like, I just feel like...
10:12Wait, so did she bring it up to you,
10:13and then, like, you got in a fight about it,
10:15or what happened?
10:16Yeah, she brought it up to me
10:17when I got back from Vegas.
10:18What'd she say?
10:19Well, she just questioned me on it.
10:20Even just our situation alone,
10:22like, me and Taylor,
10:23it's, like, so much already.
10:25And every time that I feel like
10:28we're, we, like, get through something,
10:30or we're, like, over it,
10:32something else happens.
10:33This is, like, completely out of my hands,
10:35what happened, right?
10:36Like, I have zero control on this.
10:38Yep.
10:39But it, like, causes a lot of contention and issues now.
10:44Mm-hmm.
10:45And typically, it comes from you.
10:47Like, I always feel like you're usually the one
10:49that's, like, trying to stir the pot
10:51between me and Taylor.
10:53I feel like you are self-sabotaging us.
10:56Me?
10:57Yeah.
10:58I-I'm, I don't think I am.
11:00I went back and forth on it,
11:01because I was like, well,
11:02would she rather know after she has a baby,
11:04or would she rather know before
11:05and work it out before she has the baby?
11:07I talked to Demi, I talked to Mikaela,
11:09and I said, what do you think I should do?
11:10And they said, you need to tell her.
11:11So every, it wasn't, I was the messenger,
11:14but I wasn't the catalyst.
11:17Like, I'm angry right now.
11:19At me?
11:20I'm angry at you.
11:21For what?
11:22I didn't even do anything, though.
11:23But, but you did.
11:24I'm the one who truly cares about Taylor.
11:26I would rather know something like this
11:28before I give birth, work it out,
11:30give birth, have this, like, beautiful moment,
11:32rather than acting like things are fine,
11:34have this beautiful moment,
11:35and then find out when you're in your blissful stage
11:37with the baby and being like,
11:38wow, now this bombshell's dropped on me,
11:39I'm postpartum.
11:40But that's not even true.
11:41This might not be the best timing either,
11:43because who's to say she doesn't have her baby tomorrow?
11:45Why not, should I just never tell her then?
11:46I don't, no, I don't know.
11:47You probably want me to not tell her, though.
11:49I don't know what the answer is.
11:50I don't know, maybe come to me or something
11:51and be like, hey, this just happened,
11:53or have Jacob or something and be like,
11:54I know, but again, I'm not loyal to you.
11:56It feels like you're teaming up with her,
11:58and I'm just sitting here,
12:00and I just have to get, like, shit on for it.
12:02Like, the whole time, I'm just like, gosh damn.
12:04I'm not gonna not tell her.
12:05Like, I was in a situation where I'm like,
12:07she has to know, because if it were me,
12:08I would be pissed if my friend did not tell me.
12:10But it's not my fault when I'm, like,
12:12receiving these things and Taylor's coming to me
12:14and I'm giving her advice.
12:15I'm not gonna lie to her.
12:16I'm gonna tell her my opinion,
12:18gonna tell her how I feel and what I think.
12:20I'm not gonna lie and sugarcoat it.
12:22End of the day, I choose Taylor.
12:25I care about Taylor a lot.
12:26I know you do.
12:27Like, so much.
12:28I saw your fight, I was there.
12:29I know.
12:30And I told you, I saw both of your sides.
12:31I know.
12:32I wasn't like, no, Dakota, you're wrong.
12:34I literally listened to both of you,
12:35and I said, I understand where you're coming from as well.
12:38I'm not trying to separate you guys in any way,
12:40but I do feel like you guys have issues
12:42and then you're coming to me being like,
12:43you're the reason, but I'm not.
12:45I'm not looking at someone to blame.
12:47It's, you're the only person I could blame.
12:52I think it's extremely weird
12:53that Dakota's getting mad at me
12:55for the confession that I received
12:56because I feel like it makes it seem like
12:59he's hiding something.
13:00Why are you getting upset if you're innocent?
13:02Anyways, um...
13:04Well, this has been very exciting,
13:05but I'm late to get Hudson.
13:07Oh, sorry.
13:08Obviously, I'm not gonna tell you guys
13:09what you guys need to do
13:10because that's not my place,
13:11but I will say I don't have bad intentions,
13:13but I feel like you still do,
13:14and I feel like you still try to blame me
13:16for things in your relationship.
13:18We can just agree to disagree then.
13:20Yeah, maybe.
13:22All right.
13:23All right, see you, Macy.
13:24See ya.
13:25♪ Uh-huh, yeah
13:28♪ Can't stop the heat by now
13:30♪ Can't stop the beat by now
13:33♪ Feel it all over me by now
13:35Hey.
13:36Hold it for the booty.
13:37Yeah.
13:38Thanks, Connor.
13:39Yeah.
13:40Awesome.
13:41What did you guys bring?
13:42A cake.
13:44Nice!
13:45What's it for?
13:46Just because we love cake.
13:49It's family dinner night,
13:51and we go to dinner every once in a while,
13:53so I know they're not gonna expect this,
13:55but I have some news to share with them tonight.
13:57What do you think you're gonna get, babe?
13:59Trying to find a yummy drink that's, like, not alcohol.
14:03So what's been going on?
14:05I'm so sick of my friends in the MomTalk group.
14:08There's just all this unnecessary drama.
14:11Like, at the end of the day, it's just stupid.
14:13It's just stupid drama.
14:15I've been struggling trying to figure out
14:17if I even want to be involved in MomTalk anymore,
14:20and honestly, based off of recent events,
14:23I really don't want to.
14:24I just want to, like, go away.
14:26I know Macy's launch party is coming up,
14:28and I really want to go to Macy's event.
14:30I want to be there for her,
14:32but I don't want to be around these people.
14:34I want to focus on my family.
14:36I want to focus on what I want my future to be.
14:38I want to focus on our homestead.
14:40It's only about an hour and a half of work every day.
14:43Oh, wow. That's not bad.
14:45The manure. I can already smell it.
14:47And you will smell like it.
14:49Oh, God.
14:51That face. I can't. That face.
14:53That face is, like, BS.
14:55Okay, folks, I'm gonna set this right here for you.
14:58Just put it right down the middle.
15:00What is in here?
15:02Is there something in there?
15:04Is it a trip to Italy? Because we've been.
15:06What is it? There's nothing in there.
15:08Oh, I thought you said you felt something.
15:09I did feel something.
15:10Oh, it's right there.
15:11Oh, my. Ew, what is that?
15:14Ew.
15:16What are you guys doing to me?
15:17Mom, pick it up.
15:18Ew, what is that?
15:19It's the knife.
15:20Stop saying ew, Wendy.
15:21Can you figure it out?
15:22What is it, Mom?
15:25Oh!
15:27Oh, my God. That is disgusting.
15:29What did he put in the cake?
15:31Oh, my gosh. I know what it is.
15:35Oh, my gosh.
15:37Oh, Wendy.
15:39I wanted to do something really creative
15:42to tell my mom and dad and my siblings
15:44that I was pregnant.
15:46Is this the tea stick?
15:48Yes.
15:49The actual tea stick?
15:50Yeah, it is.
15:52Do you actually pee on that, or is it just, like, a...
15:54I actually peed on this.
15:55Okay, why did you put that in the cake?
15:57There's a lid on it.
15:59There's residue that get, like, the germs that...
16:02I guess I didn't really think it fully, thoroughly, clearly,
16:06but the lid is on, so...
16:09there's that.
16:11Is it a boy?
16:12We don't know, and we're not gonna find out, by the way,
16:14the gender until I give birth for this one.
16:16We're gonna wait.
16:17This is my last one.
16:18We're gonna wait.
16:19I know.
16:20I know.
16:22I'm pregnant. I want to focus on this.
16:24I want to be surrounded by people who are supporting me,
16:26uplifting me.
16:27I don't want to be a part of MomTalk.
16:29But then making all of this money
16:31and creating this business, this brand for ourselves,
16:35it's our livelihood.
16:36So, honestly, I don't really know what I'm gonna do.
16:38Should we hold up the test?
16:40Yes.
16:41Yes, you can.
16:42One, two, three.
16:51Look how chunky he's getting.
16:53He is getting chunky.
16:55He's so cute, though.
16:56These last couple weeks have been,
16:58I feel like, really crazy for us.
17:02Yeah, I think as long as we have God on our side,
17:04having an amazing husband and an amazing father
17:07comes a lot easier when you put him first.
17:10I see your potential just like God sees your potential.
17:16Zach and I have been praying a lot.
17:19After Vegas, it really put us in a bad spot in our relationship.
17:25Ladies, we won!
17:28Think about me, please.
17:30I did nothing wrong in this situation.
17:33We've been taking a lot of time to heal in our marriage,
17:37but we also just found out that Zach got into
17:40medical school in New York,
17:43which was one of his top dream schools to get into.
17:46Medical schools are super hard on marriages,
17:49so it makes me question if going to medical school is worth it.
17:54To be honest, after everything that we've gone through this year,
17:59what, we have 10 more years of school?
18:02I honestly do think that we should take a year off.
18:08I mean, technically medical school doesn't even start till August,
18:11so it does give us months to kind of think through things
18:13and figure stuff out.
18:15I think if we avoid all of our issues
18:19and just keep moving forward, that, being completely honest,
18:23I don't know if our marriage would last.
18:31Do you have hope for the future?
18:34Let me go put him in his bouncer real quick.
18:47I know that part of you thinks that New York,
18:52that's where we're supposed to be,
18:54but I just don't know if it makes sense.
18:58It holds me back from, you know,
19:02business opportunities with mom talk.
19:05It's hard because I am the provider,
19:08and if we are going to do medical school
19:10and do these hard things in life,
19:12we do need to be on the same page,
19:14especially if we end up moving to New York
19:16where maybe I won't even have a mom talk group.
19:19My engagement just stops, and how am I going to provide mom talk?
19:23That is important to me,
19:25and I do feel like I've established that here.
19:28Like, I'm happy with that, but I really don't,
19:31I don't really care.
19:39I think the reason why I have a really hard time
19:42communicating my feelings towards Zach
19:45is because I feel like his first reaction is to fight
19:50or share his opinions than to support or validate me.
19:55The most important thing to me in this life
19:58is my relationship with God and my family.
20:02But, you know, obviously if things don't get better,
20:05he knows that I won't stay with him
20:07if I keep being treated this way.
20:16Yeah, make them pretty. Make them look nice.
20:19Baby Mama is a line of natal supplements
20:22for women who are going through their motherhood journey,
20:25and today is the Baby Mama launch party,
20:27and our site is going live,
20:29and I've been working on this, like, endlessly
20:31for the last two and a half years.
20:33It's just such a surreal moment.
20:35Is Macy here?
20:36She's just doing the makeup right in the back.
20:38Okay, I'm going to go do her hair.
20:40This looks incredible. Keep it up.
20:42Oh, my goodness.
20:43In Mormon culture,
20:44the church puts the men on this pedestal
20:46where you have to promise to obey your husband,
20:50and he is the leader of your household and of your family.
20:53But all of us women in MomTalk,
20:55we definitely don't put up with the patriarchy.
20:57Macy is a great role model for what MomTalk represents,
21:00and all of us look up to Macy,
21:01and we're just so excited to see her
21:03kick ass in the business world.
21:05Hello!
21:06Hi!
21:07Oh, my gosh, your dress is so cute.
21:08Thank you!
21:09Oh, my, my nipples popping out.
21:11Thank you so much.
21:12Congrats, baby mama day!
21:14It was an absolute shit show over the weekend in Vegas,
21:17but I invited everyone from our MomTalk little group,
21:21even Whitney, to the launch party.
21:23When we take all of our followings,
21:25combine, make videos together,
21:26we all make a really powerful community.
21:29How's today been?
21:30I'm like, I want to say good, but...
21:32Okay, but it looks insane out there.
21:34It looks so good, Macy.
21:35And to think that's like all collabs.
21:37It makes me nervous.
21:38Well, you're fine.
21:39I don't want to stress you out,
21:40but have you talked to Whitney at all?
21:42Oh!
21:43No.
21:44She hasn't, um...
21:45She hasn't even attempted?
21:46No, she hasn't even thought about it.
21:47I haven't even thought about it once.
21:48Good!
21:49I'm glad.
21:50I'm like, I have too much going on to worry about
21:52if someone's going to come support me or not.
21:54No.
21:55No, absolutely not.
21:56And I feel like that's what she wants,
21:57is to be like...
21:58To have everyone talk about her, so no.
22:00If she's not here, I don't care.
22:02It's her night.
22:03I haven't heard anything from Whitney.
22:05Not even a text, not even an Instagram, like nothing.
22:09She's supposed to be my best friend,
22:10and she knows how important this is to me.
22:13She knows how long I've been working on this.
22:15She even saw the original concept and everything
22:17when I first was starting it.
22:19And if she doesn't come at this point,
22:21I do think the future of our friendship is in jeopardy.
22:36Stop it!
22:37This is so cute.
22:40Hi!
22:41Hey!
22:42You guys look so cute.
22:43Wait, I'm obsessed with this.
22:45You actually have like matching fluffy dresses.
22:47I know.
22:48I love it.
22:49I haven't seen the girls since Vegas.
22:51And to be honest, part of me didn't want to go to this launch party
22:55just because I feel like I'm still recovering
22:57from that whole weekend.
22:59Just hope the girls aren't judging Zach
23:01and that they can look past everything.
23:05But I do feel like it's important for me
23:07to support Macy and her business.
23:11On a frail note, how are you doing?
23:13Don't sugarcoat it, baby.
23:15Oh my gosh, that was like, I'm not kidding,
23:17like one of the hardest weekends of my whole entire life.
23:19Of my life.
23:20Because I hope you know that was like all him.
23:23Like that was all his triggers,
23:25his like warped belief system of what a wife is
23:30and what like you should be in the relationship.
23:34I think Jen is completely aware about how controlling Zach is.
23:37And I feel like you can see when he is being controlling
23:41how she just disassociates in those moments.
23:44I think she's fully aware,
23:45but I just don't think she knows how to like speak up
23:48and truly put her foot down
23:49that she doesn't want to be controlled in that way.
23:51You know, he can be like a little controlling
23:53and overly opinionated.
23:54He's going to have to be forced to like self, you know.
23:58Yeah, 100%.
24:03I'm in the mood.
24:04I ain't gonna make my move.
24:06And the money gonna come right through.
24:08Ain't nobody tell me what to do.
24:12Yeah, it's my time.
24:18Tattoo Whitney on her forehead.
24:19Yeah.
24:20A D for my maiden name.
24:22Deepa D?
24:23Deepa D!
24:24I know, everyone's going to think that.
24:25To launch our business, I wanted to do a huge launch party,
24:28invite a bunch of different influencers around Utah
24:30and just have a good time.
24:32I wanted to literally launch the website live with everyone
24:35because I want Baby Mama to be about community
24:37and just supporting each other on our motherhood journey.
24:40Yeah, it's my time.
24:42Oh, yeah.
24:46I honestly think it's awesome that Macy has a tattoo
24:49stationed at her launch party.
24:51I feel like it's interesting, though,
24:53because I think a lot of the people coming to the event
24:55are also Mormon,
24:56so I'm pretty sure that's against their values,
24:59but I'm all for it.
25:01I will not be getting one, though.
25:03I'm so proud of Macy. This looks so good.
25:05I don't know how she's doing it.
25:06I know. It's incredible.
25:07I feel like she's saying she's stressed,
25:08but she's handling it so well.
25:10She is. Yeah.
25:11I mean, good for Macy not,
25:12but I don't know how you can focus
25:14when your best friend is not here.
25:16Hey, guys, I have an idea.
25:18So I know it's kind of petty,
25:19but obviously it's a big deal that Whitney hasn't shown up yet.
25:22Macy's doing a countdown to the launch of her business.
25:25I say when she gets to one,
25:27if Whitney doesn't walk through that door,
25:29we all unfollow her on social media.
25:31Yes. Unfollow her back.
25:33Whitney not showing up is not shocking to me,
25:36obviously because she didn't show up to my baby shower,
25:39but one of our core values at MomTalk
25:42is that we all support each other
25:43and have each other's backs,
25:44and that's not what she's doing.
25:46So, yeah, I don't think Whitney is a good representation
25:49for MomTalk, especially at this point.
25:52I'm in. I love that.
25:54Macy!
25:55We just wanted to let you know
25:56that Demi came up with a brilliant idea.
25:58If Whitney doesn't walk through those doors,
26:00as you're doing your countdown,
26:01we're all going to unfollow her at the same time.
26:04I thought you already unfollowed her. Did you not?
26:07We were all taking the high road,
26:08but if she doesn't come tonight, it's game over.
26:10So Whitney did it first,
26:11so I understand why the girls are doing it,
26:13but this could cause me extra drama
26:15that I don't need on a night like this.
26:18Ladies, it is that time.
26:20So go ahead, stand up, come on close.
26:24Let's hear it for Macy!
26:28Macy! Macy! Macy! Macy! Macy!
26:34Okay, you guys.
26:35I just want to start off by, like, Demi, shut up.
26:40I just want to start off by saying
26:42thank you guys all so much for coming.
26:44I'm so excited.
26:45Baby Mama is about community,
26:46it's about uplifting women, it's about being a team,
26:49and that's what I wanted tonight.
26:51I'm excited, but I'm also nervous,
26:52because I really didn't think there'd be a time
26:54where I'd be questioning my friendship with Whitney,
26:56but her not showing up,
26:57100% has me questioning everything.
27:01Ready?
27:0210, 9...
27:048, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1!
27:13Yeah!
27:18I think it's extremely disappointing
27:19that Whitney didn't show up for Macy for her launch party.
27:22I just feel like we don't need to continue to support her
27:25if she doesn't even want to be friends with us
27:27and support one of our friends.
27:28You're going to leave your best friend out to dry
27:31on one of the most important nights of her life.
27:34I don't even see a place for her in MomTalk.
27:37We've made the decision
27:38that she's no longer a part of MomTalk.
27:40We are officially in our post-Whitney era,
27:43and I couldn't be happier about it.
27:45Girl, Demi, Layla.
27:471, 2, 3.
27:50Got it. Love it, thank you.
27:54I have to go right now.
27:56Zach is feeling awful, like, super sick, so, yeah.
28:00Bye, love you.
28:03Hey, love you, I gotta go.
28:05I love you.
28:06Bye.
28:07Love you, guys.
28:08What the dancing queen leaving?
28:10I know!
28:11She's sick at home, I said.
28:13Oh, poor guy.
28:14Yeah.
28:15Welcome to motherhood.
28:16What?
28:17Don't take off.
28:18Is that why she had to go?
28:20Zach is sick.
28:22Typically what I've seen,
28:23especially in the church,
28:24is that women will be treated
28:26the way that Jen's being treated,
28:28and they will continue to stay
28:30for the sake of the kids,
28:31or for the sake of, oh, he'll change,
28:33we'll figure it out.
28:34Their whole life is just robbed,
28:37and that's what makes me nervous.
28:42He's like, you cannot spend
28:43more than an hour with those girls.
28:53Okay, so what just happened, babe?
28:55My water broke.
28:56Okay, so Taylor's water just broke.
28:58These are the pants.
28:59Oh, my gosh.
29:00I think that was it.
29:02So we're heading out to the hospital.
29:05We were both literally just talking.
29:08Yeah.
29:09We were having a conversation,
29:10and then all of a sudden,
29:11something fell between our legs.
29:13Yeah, we both, like,
29:14looked at each other,
29:15and Taylor's like,
29:16oh, my gosh.
29:17And I was like,
29:18oh, my gosh.
29:19And I was like,
29:20oh, my gosh.
29:21And we looked at each other,
29:22and Taylor's like,
29:23what was that?
29:24I thought I peed myself,
29:25but it's water.
29:26I had to smell it just to confirm.
29:27She did smell it,
29:28and she confirmed it?
29:29It's water.
29:30With Dakota,
29:31the situation is, like,
29:32still rocky.
29:33It scares me that we still have
29:35these problems,
29:37these issues.
29:39With our baby coming,
29:40I'm, like,
29:41wondering what happens after.
29:42But I'm not gonna lie,
29:44I am excited as well.
29:46Okay, we gotta go.
29:47We're gonna head there,
29:48and we'll film more in the car.
29:49Okay, let's go.
29:51♪♪
29:58This is where all the skates are.
30:00I'm so excited
30:01for my birthday party.
30:02Jace did a great job
30:03planning everything
30:04for me skating
30:05with all my friends.
30:06I told everyone
30:07to wear, like,
30:08glittery sparkles,
30:09cute stuff,
30:10of course,
30:11in my birthday fashion.
30:13It should be fun
30:14to get away
30:15from all the drama.
30:17What a vibe.
30:18I love it.
30:19What a vibe.
30:20We've had a lot
30:21of up-and-downs this year.
30:23Ooh.
30:24Us coming together
30:25for Mikayla's birthday party
30:26is truly showing that
30:27even though we've gone
30:28through these hard things,
30:29it's almost made us stronger,
30:30and we've been leaning
30:31on each other more than ever
30:32for support,
30:33aside for Whitney,
30:34because she's kicked out
30:35of the group at this point.
30:37So I'm scared.
30:38I'm like, all right,
30:39time to go.
30:40I'm just not gonna
30:41worry about it, though.
30:42No, literally,
30:43how do you move forward?
30:44I don't know.
30:45Oh.
30:46This is humbling, for sure.
30:47Let's hit the rink.
30:50No.
30:51He better not come.
30:52What about Jen?
30:53Doesn't she have the flu?
30:54Well, my theory was that
30:55she was making up
30:56the flu story
30:57to get out of today
30:58because Zach
30:59wouldn't want to come.
31:00Oh.
31:01Jen says she has the flu,
31:02and that's why her and Zach
31:03aren't here today,
31:04but I call bullshit.
31:05I 100% know it's because
31:06Zach doesn't want her here.
31:07I don't think
31:08that's what she wants,
31:09but if it's what
31:10her husband wants,
31:11that's probably
31:12what's gonna happen.
31:13Show them what you got.
31:14You're holding back.
31:15She's going backwards.
31:16Oh, I know.
31:17She's been doing that.
31:19I remember skating
31:20in, like, junior high
31:21when you would, like,
31:22do the slow skate
31:23with, like, boys.
31:24It was, like,
31:25the cool place
31:26to meet boys
31:27was at the skating rink.
31:28I'm a horrible skater, though.
31:30What?
31:31None of us
31:32are professional skaters,
31:33but we'll still
31:34look good doing it.
31:35Hey, this move's
31:36called the Whitney.
31:37I'm gonna cut you off.
31:42I'm dead.
31:45Oh, my gosh.
31:47I called Taylor today,
31:49and I think she's, like,
31:50maybe going into labor.
31:51What?
31:52She's, like, cramping
31:53and, like, having some...
31:55Keep in mind,
31:56her and Dakota
31:57apparently have, like,
31:58a huge fight.
31:59When they were fighting
32:00the other night
32:01in Las Vegas,
32:02her belly was literally,
32:03like, freaking out.
32:04No.
32:05This baby's, like,
32:06giving me the antics.
32:07Yeah, he's like,
32:08I'm gonna punch my dad.
32:09Like, opposite.
32:10Like, I'm gonna stab him.
32:11I'm gonna stab him.
32:12I'm gonna stab him.
32:13He's, like, I'm trying
32:14to stay in.
32:15Yeah.
32:16I'm gonna say,
32:17I stay in, baby.
32:18I don't want to come out.
32:19I really hope the best
32:20for Taylor and Dakota's
32:21relationship,
32:22especially considering
32:23they're bringing a baby
32:24into this world.
32:25I want nothing but
32:26happiness for them,
32:27but I still have a bad
32:28feeling about Dakota,
32:29and so that is why
32:30I agreed to reach out
32:31to Jenna for Taylor,
32:32and if he did cheat,
32:33then that would be
32:34just devastating for Taylor.
32:35And I don't want
32:36to sound selfish,
32:37but this really
32:38could hurt mom talk.
32:39We cannot survive
32:40another scandal.
32:41Taylor already had one,
32:42and that really destroyed her,
32:43and then if we had
32:44another one,
32:45I don't know if she
32:46would survive it,
32:47and I don't know
32:48if mom talk would either.
32:49Erden.
32:50This is a new sex position
32:51called rollerblading.
32:52Whoo!
32:53Good.
32:54Oh!
32:55You okay?
32:56It was a matter of time.
32:57It was a matter of time.
32:58The three girls went down.
32:59Whoo!
33:00I love it.
33:01You good?
33:02Yeah, I'm good.
33:03It's just my nipple
33:04was out, though.
33:06Whitney?
33:11Where is Whitney?
33:12Oh, God.
33:19This is lovely.
33:20Is that the front?
33:21The front,
33:22the literal front.
33:23Whoo!
33:24Oh, my God.
33:25Oh, my God.
33:26Oh, my God.
33:27Oh, my God.
33:28Oh, my God.
33:29Oh, my God.
33:30Oh, my God.
33:31Oh, my God.
33:32Oh, my God.
33:33Oh, my God.
33:35What the fuck?
33:36Hi!
33:42Hello!
33:44Hi!
33:45What the fuck?
33:46I look over,
33:47and I see Whitney
33:48come through the door.
33:49I am in utter shock.
33:51Like, I cannot believe
33:52she's here,
33:53especially considering
33:54she didn't show up
33:55to my launch party.
33:56What in the literal fuck?
33:57I am floored.
33:59What the hell
34:00is she doing here?
34:01And why are you here?
34:03I'm here for McKayla.
34:04But you and McKayla
34:05aren't friends.
34:06McKayla doesn't like you.
34:12Yeah, I'm gonna talk
34:13to McKayla real fast.
34:15Slice it up.
34:16Just take it with them.
34:17I don't want to.
34:18Hey.
34:19Do you want your gift?
34:21I'm gonna open them later.
34:23Okay.
34:24Well, this one's mine
34:25with the rainbows.
34:27That's so uncomfortable.
34:28She comes up to me
34:29and hands me a gift.
34:30I think I accidentally
34:31stepped on it, though.
34:32Later.
34:33Yeah, literally, like...
34:35I'm gonna go.
34:36I feel so awkward.
34:37But I love you.
34:38Happy birthday.
34:40You're welcome.
34:41This is so awkward right now.
34:43Can we go talk?
34:44Um, yeah.
34:45I've been trying to talk
34:46to Macy for the past
34:47couple days now
34:48for not going to her event.
34:50I just really want Macy to know
34:52that me not going
34:53to her launch party
34:54had nothing to do with me
34:55not wanting to support her.
34:57Macy has always
34:58been there for me,
34:59and I really want to be there
35:00for her right now.
35:01Well, this wasn't expected.
35:03Yeah, me too.
35:04Oh.
35:05But you came.
35:06Yeah.
35:07I got you a ring pop.
35:08Oh.
35:10So you hate me right now?
35:12I will say I'm upset.
35:14And it's like,
35:15I don't expect a lot
35:16from any friendship.
35:17This was the one thing
35:18I did expect.
35:19And just, like, say, like,
35:20hey, I just wanted to know
35:21that I am supporting you.
35:22Like, bye.
35:23Great.
35:24That would've been fine with me.
35:25I wouldn't have been upset.
35:26It felt selfish to me.
35:27Why?
35:28Because, like,
35:29I try so hard
35:30to, like, support you,
35:31I feel like,
35:32especially during everything
35:33in conversations,
35:34and I try to stand up for you
35:35and defend you
35:36because I do love you
35:37and care about you.
35:38And then, like,
35:39the one time I need support,
35:40you're not there for me.
35:41I just wasn't in the space.
35:42Like, I just...
35:43What do you mean?
35:44I needed to separate myself
35:45from everyone and everything.
35:46Even me?
35:47I wasn't...
35:48Yeah.
35:49Why?
35:50Because you're friends
35:51with all of them, too,
35:52and that's okay.
35:53I would never ask you not to be.
35:54What the fuck?
35:55What was that?
35:56Did you invite her?
35:57Did you invite her?
35:58I wanted a girlfriend.
35:59I wanted a girlfriend.
36:00I genuinely want to know
36:01what possessed her, though.
36:02Like, what possessed her
36:03to walk into this situation?
36:04Yes.
36:05Yes.
36:06After everything,
36:07after missing...
36:08Because it's on Whitney's terms.
36:09Everything's on Whitney's terms.
36:10Maybe she's over it,
36:11so it's fine.
36:12Sorry, not today.
36:13No, I am telling you right now,
36:14if any of you add her back to the group,
36:15I'm removing her again.
36:16It's hard to say
36:17what Whitney's agenda
36:18is being here today,
36:19but I think that her priority
36:20is gonna be to kiss Macy's ass
36:21and get back on her good side.
36:22She realizes that her one tie
36:23to the group
36:24is no longer on her side,
36:25so she has to show up in person
36:26to show that she's not
36:27and that she wants to talk,
36:28but I see right through it.
36:29I think this is her panicking
36:30and realizing that she
36:31has lost control of her group.
36:32I don't know what to say.
36:33I don't know.
36:34You have every right
36:35to get mad.
36:36I just feel weird.
36:37I hate that that was
36:38the circumstances,
36:39but I needed that separation.
36:40I wanted that.
36:41But then why are you here today
36:42then if you need the separation?
36:43I feel like what is done is done.
36:44Yes, she can apologize,
36:45and maybe I can forgive her
36:46in that moment,
36:47but, like, I'm not gonna forget,
36:48and I honestly don't know
36:49what to do.
36:50I don't know what to do.
36:51I don't know what to do.
36:52I don't know what to do.
36:53I don't know what to do.
36:55I honestly don't know
36:56if she feels bad
36:57about not coming to the launch party.
36:58I think Whitney wanted
36:59to do Whitney
37:00and she doesn't really care
37:01that much about me
37:02at the end of the day.
37:03It's about her.
37:04If I'm being honest,
37:05I do feel so bad.
37:07I just didn't know what to do,
37:09and I'm sorry,
37:10and I do.
37:11I do want to support you.
37:12Of course.
37:13Like, absolutely.
37:15It will take me time
37:16to definitely put a wall up
37:18this weekend for sure.
37:19Yeah.
37:20Take your time.
37:21Because I don't know
37:22Because I don't know you're scaring me lately. I think I'm scaring myself
37:30She's loving every minute of this she keeps looking down here
37:33Oh Whitney's loving it. She was looking down here smiling. No the way smiling and waiting guys serial killer vibes
37:42What
37:44She missed the control you think yes
37:46The minute she loses it
37:49Whitney Whitney Whitney
37:50You were in my doghouse, and I will let you be halfway out the doghouse. I will take it. Thank you. Just you know
37:56Thanks
38:03This bitch I
38:06Want to be surrounded by people who are supporting me uplifting me, and that's why I'm gonna take a step down from mom talk I
38:14I think mom talk is better off without Whitney
38:17She brings a lot of views and attention, but I don't think we need her. It's kind of like out of sight out of mind
38:25She wants everyone to kind of chase her and be like no Whitney. We love you
38:29Come back, but I'm just exhausted at this point
38:33my parting words for mom talk
38:36Good luck without me. I'm sorry McKay. That was so fucked up
38:44You wish you could let go
38:50You're empty feeling hello, this is the worst birthday of my life
39:02See trouble
39:13Hi guys, we are headed to the hospital oh
39:18Yeah, there's a cramp. There's a there's a cramp
39:22Yeah
39:24Okay contractions coming again
39:32Walking into the hospital right now
39:35Here we go
39:37We made it in the hospital about to go upstairs
39:41Are you scared? Yeah? I'm so excited, baby. Oh my gosh, okay? I'm literally about to pass out from excitement
39:52So try to relax cuz I don't want you to miss anything
39:54These are like the best days of your life like the days you deliver
40:18Obviously we you know
40:20Had our differences, but right now. It's nice to just focus purely like what's important and what's in front of me
40:27Which is celebrating our baby, you know?
40:50I
41:08Dakota he was such a good partner in the process and very supportive
41:13I'm like on cloud nine, and this is like the first time I've been so confident in us in a future
41:18I just I hope that I can trust him
41:22That's so crazy
41:25That we created this
41:40Hey Jen called me and she was like I just wanted to tell you my version of things and what's going on
41:45Jen told me that she's leaving mom talk because of Zach. He doesn't want her associated with us
41:50I am really sad that this is just a continuous pattern. That's not getting better
41:53So she's leaving well. I asked her I said so is it like an ultimatum situation
41:57I have been really afraid that it's been all Zach. Just pushing it and it sounds like it I
42:07Honestly think you're gonna love, New York. I'm honestly excited. I just hope that like you can feel good about it as well
42:15Do you think I'll be missing anything at home like with mom talk? They're not that significant
42:20Like they're just I don't think you're gonna be missing out. I honestly don't I don't feel like you've been like you're happiest best version
42:28I do feel like this would like help you
42:37I
42:46Do
42:48Love me after this
42:51I'm about to make a phone call that could ruin people's lives and my heart is racing
43:00Hello hi is this Jenna
43:04If I find out the message is true it will be devastating and I just don't know what I'm gonna do
43:08Do I tell her and ruin her family or do I lie and just keep it to myself?
43:14We've survived one controversy, but another one could be the end of her and the end of us. Hi, this is Macy Neely. Oh
43:21Hey, how are you?
43:23Good
43:24Okay, this is by the most random phone call ever
43:27I'm calling because I just have some questions about you and Dakota and your past relationship
43:35Okay
43:38I'll tell you everything
43:43Down to
44:13From the ashes