The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Episode 2
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00:00I've been staring at the ceiling, trying to figure out how we end up here, time and time
00:16again, followed up in doubt.
00:21Getting arrested, it was the worst time of my life.
00:23I ended up being charged with aggravated assault with three years of probation.
00:29It has been a challenge going from the scandal, to relationship, to miscarriage, to arrest,
00:37to being pregnant again.
00:41Let's talk about your pregnancy.
00:42Okay.
00:43Did you and Dakota make a decision together?
00:47After I was arrested, Dakota and I, we actually never broke up, we stayed in our relationship
00:52and I think we wanted it, to be honest.
00:54It might not be the smartest decision in our situation.
00:58It wasn't, but it is what it is.
01:01This place is so cute.
01:04I want to get a little drinky drink.
01:05Hello.
01:06I got this one.
01:07You got it?
01:09I was so shocked when I found out Tayla was pregnant, I like couldn't believe it.
01:14You were shocked?
01:15Yes.
01:16I wasn't.
01:17You weren't surprised?
01:18She's been kind of MIA.
01:19I feel like she's like separated herself from all of us.
01:21I mean, I feel like I would, if it were me.
01:24She had the swinger scandal, had an affair with her husband, then she had her miscarriage
01:28with Dakota, continued breaking it on and off with Dakota, then she got arrested, and
01:34now she's pregnant.
01:35It's like, when I see guys think with their dick, that's like Taylor, thinks with her
01:40vagina.
01:41She does not think of using protection.
01:42I don't think she thinks with anything.
01:45I love her, but sometimes I'm like, sweetheart, it's not that hard.
01:51Yeah.
01:52Good morning.
01:53How's it going?
01:54Good.
01:55How are you?
01:56Good.
01:57Freezing?
01:58It is cold outside.
01:59I'm so excited to go shopping.
02:00What all have you bought so far?
02:01Nothing.
02:02You haven't bought anything?
02:03I want to wait until after the shower to get stuff, because then you know what you do and
02:04don't need, you know?
02:05Yeah.
02:06I want to invite all of Mom Talk to come to my baby shower.
02:07I feel like this would be like a good, fresh start.
02:08Did you guys get her baby shower?
02:09Yeah.
02:10Yeah.
02:11I want to invite all of Mom Talk to come to my baby shower.
02:12I feel like this would be like a good, fresh start.
02:13Did you guys get her baby shower?
02:14Yeah.
02:15I want to invite all of Mom Talk to come to my baby shower.
02:22Yeah.
02:23Are you going to go?
02:24Obviously, yeah.
02:25Are you going?
02:26I had one of my last probation appointments.
02:27Today?
02:28Yeah.
02:29What did they say?
02:30So, this is how it works.
02:31So, I went like once a month, every month, but now it changes to every six months I go
02:32in.
02:33So, I don't have to go in every month, which is a step, you know?
02:34Yeah.
02:35So, that's good.
02:36Yeah.
02:37We just shouldn't even be there.
02:38Yeah.
02:39Yeah.
02:40Yeah.
02:41Yeah.
02:42Yeah.
02:43Yeah.
02:44Yeah.
02:45Yeah.
02:46Yeah.
02:47Yeah.
02:48Yeah.
02:49Yeah.
02:50I just shouldn't even be there.
02:51I know.
02:52After the arrest, I was under so much stress.
02:56I was filmed leaving the jail, and then that was immediately on the Internet.
03:01It was a blessing in disguise that helped me, like, wake up.
03:05I'm not going to go through this again, Taylor.
03:07I can't.
03:09You've aged me, like, ten years.
03:11I've aged myself.
03:14It's put a very, I'd say, negative image on Mom Talk.
03:19I think that something needs to change.
03:21We need to get back to what Mom Talk was before all of this happened.
03:25Well, do you want to exclude her from it?
03:27Like, what are you saying?
03:28I just think, like, let's change the culture.
03:32The Swinger scandal, sure, we got a lot of eyes.
03:34We got a lot of publicity from it, but I feel like ever since the arrest, it's been the
03:38complete opposite.
03:39And I know for a lot of people, like, brand deals have gone down.
03:43We need to make sure that we have a good reputation on social media because brands aren't going
03:48to want to work with us if they think we're going to jail and throwing stools at a wall.
03:54We need to make sure to just completely get rid of that culture because it's our livelihood.
03:59Right now, I feel like we're, like, holding on a thread here.
04:01Yeah, I feel like it's, like, rocky.
04:04And I feel like it's going to take at least one of us to kind of step up to keep the group
04:08going.
04:09I feel like it's almost weird today doing content without Taylor.
04:11Yeah.
04:12It just feels different, you know?
04:14Yeah.
04:15It is weird.
04:17I'm just, like...
04:20It's overwhelming.
04:21Like, I feel like right now I just have a lot on my plate, and Dakota's, like, talking
04:26about marriage a lot, and I'm not quite...
04:31I'm not fully in.
04:34I'm so scared to, like, just get hurt, I guess.
04:37I've done, like, everything to, like, push him.
04:41I think it's more of a test.
04:42Like, are you going to stay here with me through, like, thick and thin, you know?
04:46And so I've done these things where I'm, like, trying to push him and stuff.
04:49He's like, you're trying to ruin this.
04:50Like, you want to ruin this.
04:51And he's like, you're going to do it eventually if you keep trying it.
04:57My due date's in six to eight weeks, and I don't know if I'll, like, ever forgive myself.
05:10And that's why I, like, really push Dakota, because I don't feel like I deserve this,
05:16like, happy ending life.
05:19And I think that's, like, something, like, I learned in therapy.
05:22Like, I just, like, kind of struggle.
05:26And I'm, like, terrified.
05:32Sorry, I can't talk.
05:34I'm, like, hurting so bad inside.
05:37I know.
05:38I don't want you to feel that way.
05:40And I think that's why I had, like, a psychotic break is because I don't know how to handle
05:45it and not much hurt that I had at one time.
05:47And the whole social media was watching, and I didn't know what to do.
05:52After the arrest, I lost a lot of friends.
05:55I miss having the close friendships.
05:57So I would like to just kind of start over, beginning with my baby shower.
06:02Oh, gosh, I'm sorry.
06:05I'm going to put some lip gloss on and act like I didn't have a meltdown in the car.
06:13Oh, thank you.
06:15I know it's cute, huh?
06:16Yeah.
06:43Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
07:00Please, Lord, make me the biggest star the world has ever known.
07:03So we start flying off, then?
07:06My biggest thing surviving as a working mom with young kids is self-care,
07:11is self-care and hanging out with my close girlfriends.
07:15I feel like I need to be on a chair.
07:17Please, Lord.
07:18Make me the biggest star the world has ever known.
07:21That was it.
07:23Taylor used to be the face of Mom Talk,
07:25and then when that all blew up,
07:26no one really knew what Mom Talk stood for anymore.
07:29I feel like if Mom Talk is gonna remake its image,
07:32it's up to the rest of us to step up and make it happen.
07:34I know you don't wanna make it TikTok,
07:36but we've gotta pay the bills.
07:37I mean, who else is gonna pay the bills, right?
07:39Who is currently, like, the breadwinner at home?
07:45I think all of us.
07:46Yeah, definitely.
07:47For sure, all of us.
07:49Really? Yeah.
07:50We all are.
07:51Look at us.
07:52Social media has been, like,
07:53the greatest blessing in that sense.
07:55I feel like we haven't done a brand deal in a long time.
07:57Zero November, zero December,
07:59and then I got three in January.
08:01I wonder if holidays were just slow.
08:04The past year has been a little rough
08:05going for Mom Talk after Taylor's arrest,
08:08but we still wanna keep Mom Talk going,
08:10and I think it's up to us to keep everything flowing.
08:13I had one brand deal, like, going into the holidays.
08:17Yeah. And then dry.
08:20What's the weirdest deal you've gotten?
08:22Me and Jen got one.
08:24What? A bladder.
08:26What was it? After giving birth,
08:27like, your pelvic is just so weak
08:30that you could sneeze and, like, pee yourself.
08:31Was it for diapers?
08:33Yeah, so it was for diapers.
08:34I just said yes.
08:36I'm reading the brief, and me and Jen are like,
08:37wait a minute, are these for diapers?
08:39I'm like, are you doing it?
08:40Okay.
08:41I feel like you probably have had more.
08:42You have one.
08:43Yeah. You have one.
08:45Yeah. Don't you?
08:46Yeah.
08:48Do you have a weird brand deal you wanna share with us?
08:49Guys, I genuinely need your opinion on something.
08:52What?
08:53Okay, so I got this offer,
08:55and it's like, I'm not gonna lie,
08:56like, the money's really good.
08:58I'm like, how much are we talking?
09:0020.
09:01200?
09:02200,000?
09:03No, wait, wait.
09:0420,000.
09:0520,000.
09:0620.
09:0720.
09:08For what?
09:09It's really good money, K.
09:10What is it?
09:11What the?
09:12Oh, goodness.
09:19What the?
09:20What is it?
09:21I can't see.
09:21Just, like, pleasure points for days.
09:25What the fuck is this?
09:27Whitney Lovett.
09:28From spreading the good word door-to-door
09:31to spreading the word about vibrators.
09:33Who would've thought?
09:34Congratulations.
09:35Is that a little microphone karaoke?
09:38Are you gonna sing into that?
09:41Stop.
09:43Here, you wanna see them?
09:44Let me just.
09:45Oh, this one has my name on it.
09:46Oh, Demi.
09:47That one's for you.
09:48The Demi one.
09:49The finger pro.
09:50It's your finger, but better.
09:52Guys, I need to go upstairs real quick.
09:53I'll be right back.
09:54Stop, Laila.
09:56Okay, so what do they want you to do?
09:58Because, so, literally all I have to do
10:01is hold it and take a picture.
10:04Like, just me and post it on my Instagram and that's it.
10:07In the Mormon religion, we're very conservative.
10:12I worry about the people that I grew up with,
10:15specifically my family, seeing me promote this sex toy
10:19because it's very, very taboo.
10:22I don't know if I'd do it for 20.
10:24I'd probably have to do it at least 30.
10:25I know, I don't, I wouldn't do it for 20.
10:26I'd do it for 100, maybe.
10:28I would do it.
10:29Honestly, I think Whitney should take the deal
10:31for the vibrator.
10:32I honestly don't see anything wrong
10:34with promoting a sex toy.
10:36The amount was still not enough
10:38for me to post that on my feed, but get that back, girl.
10:41I personally would never promote a sex brand.
10:47Sex has been such a taboo topic,
10:49especially within the church for so long.
10:51It's like, if we're trying to break the mold and modernize
10:53and get to a place of, like, normalizing things,
10:56that starts with us.
10:57More than just making TikToks,
10:58I just love this group of women getting together
11:01and having these important conversations.
11:03I also feel like this mom talk group,
11:05especially being in Utah, is breaking a norm.
11:09We're raising this new generation,
11:11and things are changing, and I'm loving what's changing.
11:15I think that a lot of women,
11:17because of the shame and lack of knowledge,
11:21I think a lot of women don't even orgasm.
11:24I would die.
11:25Yep.
11:26Oh, I'm dead ass.
11:27Never in my life.
11:29Leila.
11:29Yes.
11:30I'm, like, scared.
11:31Take this home with you.
11:32My name is Leila Taylor.
11:34I'm 22.
11:35I got married when I was 19.
11:37Me and my husband were then married for three years,
11:40but we ended up getting divorced,
11:42so I've only ever really dated about four people,
11:45so that's not a lot of time to discover yourself.
11:49Have you tried a toy?
11:50Yeah, and anytime I get close to the feeling of it,
11:52I get scared, and I, like, stop.
11:54Yeah.
11:55Two kids, 22, never in my life.
11:58I went to a very Mormon-populated high school,
12:01so I'd be like, okay, what's the one thing
12:02that all of my friends have in common?
12:03They're all part of the church,
12:05so I got baptized on my own when I was 16.
12:08Being black in the church,
12:10I have never taken it personally,
12:13but you definitely do stick out like a sore thumb.
12:16I feel like I'm, like, missing out,
12:17and I, like, want to, but I just...
12:19You will.
12:20Once you do it once, you will want to do it all the time.
12:21I know.
12:22You'll be like a teenage boy.
12:23I know.
12:24I just want to...
12:25I finally hit in puberty.
12:26No, she literally starts levitating.
12:28I know.
12:29Oh my God.
12:32Do it for yourself.
12:33Don't even do it for him,
12:34because sex isn't just about the guy.
12:37It's about us, too, you know?
12:39The more you enjoy it, the more they enjoy it, you know?
12:41I don't have that problem.
12:42I enjoy it plenty.
12:44Yeah, you definitely are.
12:44Like, I ain't worried about who it's for,
12:46to be honest.
12:48Before you're married, it's like, sex is taboo,
12:50but then the second you get married,
12:51you're supposed to be this, like,
12:52porn star for your husband.
12:53We know who the real porn star is for their husband.
12:57No!
12:57Who are we looking at?
12:58Who are we looking at?
13:01We've seen those nudes.
13:03My name is Jen Affleck.
13:04I am 24 years old.
13:06Zach's gonna kill me for this one,
13:08but Ben Affleck is his second cousin.
13:10I'm definitely the first Jen Affleck.
13:13Not only that, her middle name is the same as mine.
13:15Jennifer Lynn Affleck.
13:17I don't know, maybe we can convert them to the church.
13:20I am a content creator.
13:21My goal is really just to be able to provide
13:24for my family.
13:25I've always been super comfortable with my sexuality,
13:28which I definitely think has also gotten me in trouble,
13:34because I am a conservative Mormon.
13:36I do follow all those rules.
13:38I'm not kidding, you inspired me,
13:39like, full, like, for Brett,
13:41and I've never done anything like that.
13:42Wait, you did it?
13:43Yes, and it was fun.
13:44Like, you took a picture?
13:45Oh, I took so many pictures.
13:47Wait, I wanna see.
13:47What's your...
13:48Ah!
13:49Ah!
13:50Ah!
13:51Ah!
13:52Ah!
13:53Ah!
13:54Uh-oh.
13:55Ah!
13:56Oh my God!
13:57Not again, not again!
13:59Ah!
13:59Jenny, what is that?
14:01Ah!
14:02I don't wanna see!
14:03No!
14:04There she is!
14:05In all her glory!
14:07There's the Winnie!
14:08Here we are, a group of women in Mom Talk
14:10who can inspire other women to not be ashamed
14:13to use a sex toy, I think is very empowering.
14:16I just worry that my family would be a bit shocked
14:20by me advertising something like this.
14:24It's hot in here.
14:25What?
14:26Ooh!
14:27Ooh!
14:28Work your back, mami, work your back.
14:29Work your back, mami, work your back.
14:31Mami, this a kiddo, mama, work your back.
14:33Shake your nigga like a hammer, wind your back.
14:39Shake your nigga like a hammer, wind your back.
14:42Hi!
14:43Hi!
14:43Come on in.
14:44How's it going?
14:46You guys can sit down.
14:46What are you doing?
14:48Dishes.
14:49What are you guys up to?
14:50Your mom drug me here, off of my job sites.
14:53Really?
14:55So what's so important you need to talk to us about?
14:57Did you not tell him, Mom?
14:59I did tell him that Dakota was probably gonna move in.
15:03No, yeah, probably, like, yeah, he's moving in.
15:07When?
15:09Today.
15:10Like, now?
15:12Yeah.
15:13I'm very excited for this next step.
15:15One, we have a child on the way,
15:17and I feel like I really just want to try to move forward,
15:22heal, and really work on our relationship.
15:24I know you guys prefer marriage before moving in,
15:27but, like, that's obviously not how it's gonna go, you know?
15:32I'm not supportive of it.
15:34Why do you have to rush it?
15:36Because we're having a baby.
15:37I know, but that doesn't matter.
15:38You'd rather me do it alone.
15:41Yeah, that's the choice you made when you got pregnant.
15:44In our religion, marriage is, like,
15:47essential to have that partnership.
15:50We believe, like, it's a sacred thing.
15:53That's what me and your mom have tried to teach you.
15:56The church teaches that we shouldn't live
15:59with a partner outside of marriage.
16:02You already got divorced, you know, at a young age,
16:04and then you bring Dakota in this
16:07when you don't know if he's 100% sober.
16:09I don't want you to be like,
16:10oh, this is not gonna work out.
16:12Okay, I have a baby from a second daddy.
16:15I don't want a revolving door of men
16:18attached to my daughter and to my grandkids.
16:21For having this baby out of wedlock,
16:23you guys can be mad all you want,
16:25but he's moving in and he's gonna help me with the baby.
16:27That's the goal is to get married.
16:28It's not like, I'm having this kid
16:29and I don't wanna get married ever.
16:31You wanna give yourself time before you marry someone
16:34for the rest of your life again, you know?
16:35Like, it's my second marriage,
16:36so it's like, I'm scared, honestly.
16:38Again, you shouldn't have got pregnant.
16:40Which is true.
16:43Is that him?
16:44Probably.
16:48I'll go say hi and help him.
16:49I'll be right back.
16:52Hey.
16:53Hi.
16:53How's it going?
16:54Here, I'm gonna help you bring some boxes.
16:56You don't have to, baby, it's fine.
16:57Do you have any light ones?
16:58A lot of them are light.
16:59I mean, I'll get most of my heavy stuff.
17:01I just told him that you're moving in.
17:03Look at that one.
17:03Just now.
17:04Are you listening?
17:05Oh, sorry, no, what?
17:06You told him?
17:07Just now.
17:08Wait, you just told him?
17:08Yeah, I know, and that's why he's like,
17:09oh, you brought him here.
17:12He doesn't have anything?
17:13No couches?
17:14Dirty clothes?
17:15Dude, I didn't know your parents
17:16were even gonna be here.
17:17Do they need help?
17:21It's always scary.
17:22It is scary.
17:23You're like, uh-oh.
17:25All that gray hair, they've caused you to go gray.
17:28Hopefully.
17:29How can you do?
17:30They don't ever listen to anything
17:31you tell them to do anyways, so.
17:35Seriously, do you need any help?
17:36I don't know, I think we're good.
17:38He doesn't have a whole lot.
17:39Like, I have more, but.
17:41So first of all, you knock up my daughter.
17:43Oh my gosh.
17:44And then.
17:45That was an accident.
17:47Okay.
17:47What, you tripped and fell?
17:48Yeah.
17:50Yeah.
17:52So, moving in.
17:57That's shocking.
17:58Just found out.
17:59I know.
18:00Is that how you were raised?
18:01Did you just move in with these chicks?
18:02No, no, no, no, no, no.
18:03See, here's what happens.
18:05You just knock up girls?
18:07No, see, everything we did, completely opposite.
18:10I think, like, realistically,
18:12we would've liked to have done it.
18:14The traditional.
18:15The traditional way.
18:16But, given our situation, I wanna also help Taylor,
18:20so I just feel like the only way for me
18:22to really do that is to be in here.
18:25I'm excited to have another life into our family.
18:28Little baby, but I do have my reservations
18:32about this whole thing.
18:33This is, honestly, everything I've ever wanted
18:37in my future.
18:38I just never thought it was possible for me to have.
18:40I do want a family, I want all those things.
18:43Not only that, I love your daughter.
18:45I love her a lot, and we align a lot
18:47on what we want in our future together,
18:49so, which makes it really nice.
18:52We talked about that, like, even just, like,
18:54religion, I guess, as simple as, like,
18:56I wanted someone in the church to marry again,
19:01and he wanted the same.
19:03Yeah.
19:04Oh, you did?
19:05Yeah.
19:06Since the arrest and my pregnancy,
19:08I feel like I have changed spiritually.
19:11I have really looked at, like,
19:14what's important, my priorities.
19:16I want someone, like, to go to church with
19:18when we go to church.
19:19Like, I don't want to be in a relationship
19:21where, like, I'm taking my kids alone and stuff,
19:23and I just really wanted that, like,
19:25and you have usually the same morals and values,
19:28I feel like, or do we always follow them?
19:31No, but we're pretty aligned in that way.
19:35Being pregnant and recommitting
19:38and trying to go back to church
19:39is not the typical Mormon thing to do,
19:41and most wouldn't,
19:42and I feel like they'd be a little bit more shameful,
19:44and I do have those feelings, anxiety, fear
19:47of going back in and being judged.
19:49However, I still love our faith
19:51and really want to make an effort to go,
19:53so we are just gonna try.
19:55I think that when you're pregnant
19:56and you're bringing a life into the world,
19:59you need to be really considering marriage.
20:02It's really not that different, you know?
20:06Dakota moving in with my parents being here
20:09did not go well,
20:12but I'm hoping our baby shower goes better.
20:14♪ I got education, ain't no getting over on me ♪
20:18♪ I've been through the struggle, yeah, I'm more than what you see ♪
20:21♪ Took a while to get it, so I'm holding on to success ♪
20:23♪ I don't do no drama, baby, go ahead with that mess ♪
20:26♪ You a boss and you fucking like it ♪
20:29Hi!
20:30Oh, look at you, you look so cute, pregnant mama.
20:33Oh, let's see.
20:35I know.
20:35Look at this baby.
20:36Oh my gosh, it's getting so big.
20:37You are still small, though.
20:38What the heck?
20:39I feel like you're lucky, I get huge.
20:41I know, and I'm almost, like, there.
20:43I know.
20:44Sweet, so are we looking for a set for the baby shower?
20:46Yes, I wanna show you, like, a picture.
20:48Yeah, what's the vibe?
20:50I'm having my baby shower at this venue
20:52called The White Shanty.
20:53It is Mormon-owned, and they pretty much have, like,
20:57every Mormon event you can think of.
20:59I just really want this baby shower to be perfect,
21:02and I just really need my support system back,
21:04so I just hope all my friends come and show up for me.
21:06We wanna find, like, some eucalyptus.
21:07Is that what it is?
21:08Yeah, and then baby's breath.
21:10Yeah, so you can kinda look.
21:11And I was looking at these, and, like, dang,
21:13I wanna get some plants.
21:14I'd probably kill it on accident, though.
21:17So I am kinda nervous about my baby shower.
21:21Why?
21:22Just to see everyone.
21:24I'm just, like, scared.
21:26Yeah.
21:27Honestly, there's just no other way to say it.
21:28I don't blame you, but I feel like
21:29when everything came out, I felt bad for you.
21:32Everyone was shitting on you, and I was like,
21:34I would hate to be in her position,
21:35even if I effed up, and everyone's like,
21:38Eff you, Taylor.
21:38I'm like, I couldn't just, like,
21:40I couldn't even imagine where your mental health was at.
21:42If anything, it made me, like,
21:43want to come towards you more.
21:44Like, this girl, like, needs a friend.
21:47After the scandal, and then, obviously, the arrest,
21:51the moms and mom talk all for sure judged me.
21:53They didn't know the background of the story,
21:55so they were like, we don't like Taylor.
21:57Those who love and support you will be there.
21:59Yeah.
22:00And I guess that can kinda give you an idea
22:01of, like, who cares and who doesn't.
22:03We don't have time for fake friends.
22:05I know.
22:06I do feel like you've done a great job
22:08at taking accountability for, like,
22:09things from the past and, like, what you've done.
22:12Yeah.
22:12But I do think that you take all of the accountability,
22:16and you act like it's all you.
22:18And then, like, Dakota looks like this angel
22:21sent from heaven who's, like,
22:22this perfect person when he's not.
22:26Like, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.
22:29I worry because of, like, what I've seen him say to you.
22:34Me and Mikayla went to this event.
22:37Taylor shows up, and then her ex walked in,
22:39and immediately Taylor was, like, stressed.
22:42Dakota was freaking out.
22:43He basically was saying, like, F you.
22:46You're a nothing slut.
22:47And Taylor was sitting there, like, shaking.
22:49She doesn't deserve that.
22:51I just think that he's not treated you
22:53the way you should be treated.
23:02When we were at that event,
23:04and he was texting that I was looking over his shoulder,
23:06I was reading your whole conversation.
23:08Oh, my gosh.
23:09I could see that you were, like, shedding down,
23:11and you were so anxious,
23:12and I was like, what's going on?
23:13I just think that he's not treated you
23:15the way you should be treated.
23:18But I also feel like things have gotten so much better.
23:21Like, what has changed?
23:22Like, he's being less toxic, or?
23:24Both of us are being less toxic.
23:27How so?
23:28Just, like, with the addiction,
23:29or just, like, in the relationship?
23:30Everything.
23:32Taylor definitely hasn't confided in me as much
23:35since she got pregnant.
23:36I don't really hear much about the relationship anymore,
23:38which I knew eventually would happen.
23:39That's what usually does happen,
23:41those toxic relationships.
23:42Two weeks before she told me she was pregnant,
23:44she called me basically saying,
23:46I wanna get out of this relationship.
23:48I don't know how to get out.
23:50Like, she was basically asking for my help.
23:52And then two weeks later, she's telling us she's pregnant.
23:54I always think about you.
23:55That's why I always check in,
23:56because I'm like, I want you to know
23:56you can, like, talk to me.
23:58I think that's why I always, like, defend you,
24:00because I've been there.
24:01Yeah.
24:02Because I'm telling you so many other girls don't,
24:03and they won't.
24:05And I feel like I really gave him benefit of the doubt,
24:08but I haven't seen any progress.
24:09Maybe that's why.
24:10Like, I only know what I saw in the past,
24:12and that, like, pisses me off.
24:13Sure, there's been a lot, I will say.
24:15Yes.
24:16I can honestly say there's been so much progress.
24:19Dakota is obviously very insecure,
24:21because people who are confident in themselves
24:23and the relationship, they don't act like that.
24:25But it's still no excuse for his behavior.
24:28I'm just trying to be a good friend to Taylor,
24:30and I see those red flags, and it scares me.
24:33I don't trust him.
24:34I don't think he's good for Taylor.
24:36I don't think that they should be together, period.
24:39Do you think I should just do this on my own?
24:41Like, you'd rather have you be happy without this person
24:43than miserable with them just for the baby.
24:46I don't like him.
24:50I see Macy as, like, this protective friend.
24:53She's always defending me in situations.
24:55I do appreciate that she's blunt and always been honest.
24:58I know she wants the best for me,
25:00but at the same time,
25:01it's really hard to hear and accept as well.
25:05All right, well, I want to look at the pots they have.
25:06Yeah, let's look at the pots.
25:18What's up?
25:19Oh, Whitney's here.
25:20Oh, Whitney's here.
25:22This morning is so good.
25:23Yay!
25:25I'm so excited.
25:29Hey, fun, you guys already have everything out.
25:31Yeah.
25:32Guess who did it?
25:33Lexi.
25:34Is she the new favorite?
25:36I don't know about new.
25:40Being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ
25:43of Latter-day Saints, I know it's a whole mouthful.
25:45My family is very conservative.
25:47My family's family is very conservative.
25:50How's your boyfriend?
25:52Good.
25:53Mom, how do you feel that he's not Mormon?
25:55He's a great kid.
25:56Why do I feel like if I were to date
25:57a non-Mormon boy in high school,
25:59mom would have absolutely said, no way?
26:03Well, now you know, I wouldn't have cared.
26:09Of course it's going to weigh in to my decision
26:12whether or not I'm going to promote a vibrator.
26:14I'm just trying to figure out, is this a gray area
26:18or is this an absolute do not promote this?
26:23So mom and Lexi, I'm curious to know your point
26:26of view on this too.
26:28I got a really juicy brand deal for a vibrator.
26:33Okay.
26:35Just to promote it on my social media.
26:38Why would you do that?
26:39Well, one, the money is really good.
26:43And two, and two, I feel like I can go about it
26:47where it's like empowering.
26:50You don't think it's like empowering?
26:54No.
26:55Why?
26:56Do you feel like that like matches your platform though?
26:59Cause you're all like, oh my God, kids,
27:01homemaking vibrator.
27:05I mean, yeah.
27:06Like let's empower each other.
27:08Let's empower.
27:09I don't feel like it does much.
27:11I just think a lot of that is private, personal,
27:14but I also, I wanted to,
27:16cause I like, I didn't want it to be shunned.
27:18It's like, if you need this tool
27:22to enjoy intimacy with your partner more,
27:25like there shouldn't be shame around it.
27:27Do you feel like there is with the church in sex toys?
27:30Probably, yeah.
27:32I think it's a personal thing between you and your partner.
27:35What if you were single?
27:37I'm not sure how I feel about that.
27:40You think that it should be a no-no?
27:42I think when you're seeking pleasure,
27:44it can just get out of hand.
27:47I'm gonna put these in.
27:47I feel like we were so involved in the church.
27:51Growing up, even in young women's or girls' camp
27:54or young women's activities,
27:56like whenever we would talk about the law of chastity
27:58or sex, like it was always, no, no, no, no, no.
28:03There's this verse I remember where it talks about
28:05how sex was comparable to murder.
28:08And so that's what's going in my mind as a young woman.
28:13I even had this sex talk before I got married to Connor
28:17and I was a virgin.
28:22I had to figure it out on my own.
28:24Wait, wait.
28:25My wedding night should have come from a horror movie.
28:29That was a horrible, horrible night.
28:32It was a conversation that was never had.
28:34So we both just went in this blindly.
28:37Okay, maybe not a horror movie, a comedy.
28:40In some schools, you're taught like sex ed.
28:43I don't know if it's a Utah thing, but no.
28:46Like when I like would watch these movies
28:48and they like hold the banana
28:49and like put the condom on the banana,
28:50I'm like, never at my school.
28:54I remember at your shower that your friends threw you.
28:58Yeah, the bachelorette party.
28:59I mean, you had to know, you guys had penis cookies.
29:02I was kind of like, what is going on?
29:04I had just had another baby.
29:06She was a toddler, cut me some slack.
29:09You should have taught me how you had the baby.
29:12Obviously you figured it out.
29:14I wish that I had conversations with my mom
29:18about topics such as this.
29:21And it's hard because, you know,
29:22my mom was raised in the church
29:24and her mom didn't talk to her about it.
29:26We just never did talk about it.
29:28So I just took that as,
29:29oh, this is just something you don't talk about.
29:31It was, this is shameful, horrible.
29:34Don't ever do this.
29:35Don't even think about it.
29:37If you do, you're a horrible person.
29:38Like that's literally what I believe.
29:40If I could go back in time,
29:42I would check that off of my parenting list
29:44to make sure that I asked if there was anything
29:46that you wanted to know that you didn't know.
29:50Oh, I love you, mom.
29:52The sex is great now, if you were wondering.
29:56And you know what made it better?
29:58Toys.
29:59So I wish my mom had talked to me about it,
30:02but I'm so happy that she's listening now.
30:04Sex can be viewed in religion as like disgusting,
30:08but times are changing.
30:09It's a new generation coming in.
30:11With Mom Talk, we're here, we're embracing our sexuality.
30:16It's empowering, and it's exciting, and it's fun.
30:20I think I'm gonna do it.
30:22I think I'm gonna promote the vibrator.
30:25You hate it.
30:26You hate it so much.
30:28Well, there's lots of things I don't agree with,
30:32but that's okay.
30:34The cycle ends here.
30:36I'm going to have this conversation
30:37because it needs to be had.
30:39Maybe I'll send you one.
30:41It's okay.
30:42You don't need to send me one.
30:55Be careful.
30:55Watch your step.
30:57It's slushy.
31:00Hello.
31:01Hey, guys.
31:02Welcome.
31:03Hi.
31:04How are you?
31:04I'll have you guys sit right over here.
31:05I'm doing well.
31:06How are you guys?
31:07Good.
31:09Thank you so much.
31:09This is so nice.
31:11Thank you so much.
31:12This is so cool.
31:12This is cool.
31:14Oh, yeah.
31:14This is awesome.
31:15Thank you so much.
31:16You're welcome.
31:18So, who's going to the baby shower?
31:20Invited my family, your family,
31:23and then I think mostly all of my close mom friends
31:26are coming.
31:26They'll be there.
31:27Is it all the mom talk girls and stuff?
31:29Yeah.
31:30Mom talk.
31:31How was Macy?
31:33Didn't she go to the flower shop with her?
31:35It was good.
31:36We kind of just caught up.
31:36She asked about how we were doing.
31:38Oh, she's still talking shit?
31:40Like always?
31:41No.
31:42Yeah.
31:42That's all she does.
31:44She doesn't like me.
31:45It's not that she doesn't like you.
31:47It's like she's been the one friend
31:48that I've opened up to about things.
31:50So, she's of course just a funny side.
31:51No, no, no, no.
31:52She's petty.
31:53I'm sorry.
31:54Like, there's a difference.
31:55Like, I've opened up to my friends too.
31:58Taylor, she doesn't like any picture you post of us.
32:01Like, she's so petty.
32:02She won't even like the picture.
32:04Who does that?
32:05Sorry.
32:06That's weird.
32:08I don't know where she seems like
32:09she has this right to like...
32:11Because I confide in her.
32:13She's the only person you confide in?
32:15Mm-hmm.
32:16I don't confide in a lot of people.
32:18But I haven't even tried.
32:20I am scared of friendships right now.
32:22Like, just like, kind of like I'm scared of like a marriage
32:25and everything, like just from everything that's gone on.
32:27Like, I am scared to have close friends.
32:30I really am.
32:31Because the close friends that I had the last five years
32:32were not even really my friends
32:33and were gone in the snap of the fingers.
32:35Macy was one of the first ones to come and be my friend.
32:39I have screwed up with MomTalk twice now.
32:42First the scandal and then my arrest.
32:44So I do feel on the outs, insecure,
32:48and probably a little bit judged.
32:51I don't know all of their intentions.
32:53And I don't think you ever really do know your friendships
32:55until something happens and then you find out the hard way.
32:59I don't want there to be drama.
33:00And so I'm hoping that MomTalk,
33:03they will kind of give me another shot
33:05and we can all have a fresh start together.
33:09♪♪
33:12♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey, no more playin' ♪
33:17♪ I'm runnin' out of patience. I'm runnin' out of, I'm runnin' out of... ♪
33:22It's so fun.
33:23I want purple plastic.
33:25Hi.
33:26Hi.
33:28Awesome, thank you.
33:30Go change the sand.
33:31Ooooh.
33:33Woah, this feels so weird.
33:36Oh look, he's like, Mom, no.
33:38You can do it, buddy.
33:40It's Himalayan salt.
33:41Yeah.
33:42So it's supposed to be really good for your immune system.
33:44So it's like, any time my kids are sick or if I'm sick,
33:46like, I'm like, uh, we need to go to a salt cave.
33:49Can you eat it?
33:51My kids do.
33:53Okay, wait, what are you wearing?
33:54The Taylor's baby shower.
33:55I don't know if I'm going to go to that.
33:59Why?
33:59I don't have that kind of relationship with her.
34:01We've cultivated this relationship online,
34:04but we don't have one in real life.
34:06And I don't even think she'd care.
34:08The whole time I've known her,
34:09it's always been give, give, give,
34:12and it's never been reciprocated.
34:13And I'm just kind of like, well, then why am I,
34:16why am I still giving?
34:16Why am I still supporting?
34:17Why am I still entertaining this relationship
34:19when there's nothing even there?
34:22Like, I know it's going to be fun,
34:23but it's like, I don't want to do that anymore.
34:27I want to lead mom talk back in the direction
34:30that it was originally founded on.
34:32I am not supporting this fake friendship
34:35that we don't have anymore.
34:37I just feel like I have to walk around on eggshells
34:41every time I'm around her
34:43because of this audience that she has on social media.
34:46It's like, I'm so intimidated by it.
34:48I'm like, oh my God, like,
34:49look what she did to her best friends.
34:51Look how she fucked them over.
34:54When this whole mom talk swinger drama happened,
34:57it was immediate crash.
35:00We were all in this massive group chat
35:02and then people are just fighting back and forth.
35:04Friendships were torn apart
35:05because of what Taylor was saying.
35:08And it sucks that she even allowed
35:09something like that to happen.
35:10Online, it looks like we're all the bestest of friends.
35:13It's like, but we're not.
35:15All she cares about is herself.
35:16I genuinely feel that way.
35:19This is definitely typical Whitney.
35:21She will have problems with somebody, have tension,
35:24and she just wants to avoid it
35:25rather than to talk to them.
35:26Every time we're together,
35:27she has to create a TikTok
35:28and it has to make sure that like,
35:30she's shown as the queen bee
35:31and we're all like these girls who kiss her ass
35:34and lick her pee and I'm like,
35:35I'm not, I'm done with that facade.
35:37I don't want to entertain it anymore.
35:38I'm out.
35:39I'm not really sure why Whitney
35:41would consider not going to this,
35:43especially just because one of the purposes
35:45of our group and mom talk is that we come together
35:47and we support each other
35:49through all the things that we're going through in life.
35:51She was getting a divorce.
35:53She was having an affair.
35:54She got arrested.
35:55I'm done with that.
35:57I feel like all of us in mom talks,
35:58really important that we all stay strong and united.
36:01It makes me honestly really worried
36:03that Whitney might not show up.
36:05I don't trust her.
36:07I don't feel safe around her.
36:08I don't want anything to do with her.
36:09And I think that's fine.
36:11♪ I'm a queen bee, royalty ♪
36:17♪ Off with your head if you're stuck to me ♪
36:20♪ Stone cold, breaking bones ♪
36:23♪ Hit the road, road to the throne ♪
36:26♪ Say I'll be doing nice with the queen bee ♪
36:30Actually, I have an idea.
36:32What if I'm going to put all the greenery on here
36:34and then we'll just keep this one the green.
36:36Hey Taylor, what did you want to do with the welcome sign?
36:39Do you want it on the table?
36:41And yeah, we have easels we can put it on.
36:42What do you think would look best?
36:44I think if you used an easel.
36:46Let's do that.
36:47Yes.
36:48Yes.
36:50I'm kind of nervous.
36:54With the arrest, I don't know necessarily
36:56if the girls did judge or have any opinions about it.
37:00I came back to the church, try to get my life together
37:03and just kind of redeem myself.
37:05And I'm like finally getting there.
37:07We're moving, we're progressing.
37:10But I feel like I have distanced myself from,
37:14you know, all of my friends.
37:16I don't know who's going to show up and who's not.
37:19But I do want them there for me.
37:21I don't want to do this alone.
37:22I'm stressed.
37:23I'm like anxiety attack.
37:34♪♪♪
37:39♪♪♪
37:44♪♪♪
37:49♪♪♪
37:54♪♪♪
38:00♪♪♪
38:05♪♪♪
38:10♪♪♪
38:13Hi, it's the bitches right here.
38:17Despite my issues with Dakota,
38:19I know it's important to be able to show up for Taylor
38:21for her baby's shower.
38:22She has gone through so much in the last year.
38:24I want to make sure she feels loved and supported.
38:26I think when Taylor sees us group of girls
38:28around her, she'll be more excited and happy
38:30to come back to MomTalk so we can all start
38:32making videos again and be a united front.
38:35You look stunning.
38:38I am here to fully support her on her journey
38:41and whatever her journey looks like.
38:43Even if she's taken a step back lately,
38:45which I totally understand and respect,
38:48I have supported Taylor through all of the ups and downs
38:51throughout MomTalk, and this is no different.
38:54Look at your cute little belly.
38:56With the ribbon, you are going to cut
38:58how big you think Taylor is,
39:00and then whoever is the closest to guessing how big she is
39:04wins a prize.
39:05I just feel like he's going to be such a sweet dad.
39:07He is. He's going to be really cute.
39:09What was that?
39:11Nothing.
39:12I think he'll be a great dad.
39:13The baby-daddy part is where I think we worry a little bit.
39:17There's just, like, stuff from the past I think still bugs me.
39:19When we were at that event, he was saying, like,
39:22I think he said, like, you're an F-ing whore or something.
39:26Okay. Do you guys have your ribbons?
39:29Yes.
39:30I would love to check for you guys.
39:32Do a check.
39:33Awkward.
39:34I know.
39:35That was close.
39:36I'm going to put my hand on your belly,
39:38because I love it.
39:39Do you guys know where Whitney is?
39:40Oh, is Whitney not here yet?
39:42I don't know.
39:43Fashionably late.
39:46Is she coming?
39:48Last night, I was with her, and she's not coming.
39:52Wait, what?
39:54Yeah.
39:55Oh.
39:56Did you tell her she's not coming?
39:57No, and I told her maybe she should,
39:59but she said that Taylor's probably not even going to notice.
40:02I am shocked that Whitney is not coming to the baby shower.
40:05At the same time, I know she's not a big fan of Taylor right now,
40:09so it doesn't surprise me, but she should at least send her a text.
40:12I feel like this is sending a message to Taylor
40:14that she does not want to be friends,
40:16and she does not care about Taylor.
40:17Did she say why?
40:19I don't want to go into too much detail,
40:20but she just says that she doesn't want to be involved with Taylor.
40:24Can I get a pic with all of you girls?
40:27Is everyone here?
40:28I think so.
40:29Whitney, where's Whitney?
40:30Oh, yeah, Whitney's not here.
40:31Oh.
40:32I don't know if she's coming.
40:33What do you mean?
40:34Did she say she wasn't coming?
40:36I guess she told Layla last night she couldn't come.
40:39I honestly think she's not coming.
40:41You know why.
40:42Why isn't she coming?
40:43I'm not.
40:45Wait, Whitney's not coming?
40:46You're like the worst liar ever.
40:48I know.
40:50Layla knows, I don't know.
40:52You guys don't have a friendship,
40:53so she felt like she didn't need to come today
40:55because you guys don't have a friendship.
40:57Oh, that's news to me.
40:59I don't want to be the one to have to bring it up.
41:01Shoot the messenger.
41:02I was just hoping you wouldn't notice,
41:03so I wouldn't have to say anything.
41:04That she's not here?
41:06The tension between Whitney and Taylor
41:08is very tangible with them at all times.
41:13It's like you're either Team Taylor
41:15or you are Team Whitney.
41:17I feel like they both love the spotlight
41:19in different ways,
41:20but they both have this very alpha female energy,
41:24and that seems to be the bigger issue.
41:29What?
41:30Did you notice?
41:31What?
41:32Yeah.
41:33We have no friendship.
41:41Hello?
41:42Hello?
41:43Hey, Whitney?
41:44Yeah.
41:45This is Leontay's mom.
41:47How's it going?
41:48Good. What's up?
41:49Good.
41:50I was just calling because I noticed you weren't here.
41:52Your mom called Whitney.
41:54Oh, my gosh.
41:57Yeah.
41:58Taylor's mom called Whitney.
42:01I would die if my mom did that.
42:03What is going on?
42:05Um, I don't know.
42:07I think that's more of a conversation
42:08between me and Taylor.
42:13There's a clear division in mom talk.
42:17Sinners versus saints.
42:19Zach's parents are very conservative.
42:21They don't smoke.
42:22They don't drink.
42:23I thought it was a graduation party.
42:25You guys are all going.
42:27We're hosting Luca's baby blessing.
42:30It's, like, super sacred and spiritual.
42:32You just don't want any bad energy.
42:34I didn't know we were uninvited.
42:35That was to hurt you.
42:36It's kind of like the Mean Girls in a sense
42:38because it's, like, them three against the world.
42:40Demi, I have a gift for you, though.
42:43Oh, my God.
42:46This was completely intimate and off the table.
42:49It is very hypocritical
42:51because she wants to create this safe space with mom talk.
42:54I just think it's below the belt.
42:57Oh, my God.
43:02Betrayal
43:05Betrayal
43:08I held back you
43:11You turned your back on me
43:15Betrayal
43:18Betrayal
43:21I don't blame you
43:24For what you've done to me
43:28Betrayal