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00:00Those of you just joining us were reacting to this Debo Samuel cleats and convos with Debo Samuel podcast peep this
00:08Come for the Debo stay for the last sentence
00:11Kind of same thing kind of like be your best self and like long as you know
00:14You left it all out there and like win lose or draw like long as you know, you gave it everything
00:18It's like you ain't got no regrets at all
00:20so it sounds like you guys are pretty convinced that as long as everybody shows up, there's
00:25There's no doubt that you guys feel like it can be your year
00:28Kind of like what he said like my eyes like
00:32We've been on the best team in the league for a while. We've been the best team in the league for a while and
00:39You know split the difference a little bit in my mind. I get why he feels that way
00:44It's hard for 49ers to hear that right now. So I understand where Grandy's coming from granny's mad at this. I understand it
00:50That's hard to hear. I also understand where he's coming from where a he's on the team
00:56So obviously he feels that way but be if you think the Niners quote should have won
01:01Each time they play the Chiefs then somewhere in your belly in my opinion. You think the Niners are the best team, too
01:08Yeah
01:08I don't see it that way and I just look at results and you and I have had a long
01:13Battle and we will forever as long as we're on the show together about process versus results. You're a process guy
01:19I'm a results guy and I look at what they've done in the last three years and they're not the best team
01:25And the last five years since Debo's been here. They're not the best team. You don't have the most wins
01:31You don't have the most rings. You might have the best roster
01:35fine, that's subjective but
01:37Objectively, you're not the best team because the best team over a five-year period should at least win one time and you have it
01:44Although could he argue that what his words were were for a while? I don't know that that was five years
01:51I don't know that it's his whole career
01:52They're obviously a much different team under Brock Purdy than they are under Jimmy Garoppolo and most would argue better fine
01:58So maybe he's talking about for the last
02:02Two years. Okay, and even at that they don't have the most wins and they don't have the most Super Bowl
02:07So I would argue that you're not the best team now
02:10You're among the best teams and as a player
02:13I'm not mad at him for thinking that because I want my players to think that but at the same time it does
02:19Make me feel a little bit like triggered especially now that you're injured. Yeah
02:25Well, and I don't know when this was recorded. That's the other thing this this like this hit this morning
02:32And the timings not great you lost last week. You're hurt
02:37This is not the time for the Niners receivers to be on a couch
02:43Squawking about how amazing they are Brandon and we'll ask great co-co sell this but Brandon
02:48I you is not separating nor is he getting catches? Is it his fault?
02:52I don't know Greg Cosell will help us with that and Deebo's hurt not the time
02:57But this is when it got released right again. It's his podcast. Thank you. So you can control the release
03:04Realize hey, I'm hurt and this may land in a certain way
03:08Maybe we don't want to release it you could have held it back
03:11But clearly he released it and I know he's always on the up at Adams
03:15Podcast with Kay Adams, and I thought that's where this came from. But apparently this is his own podcast
03:20So go ahead. Your content is your own you can release whatever you want. You can say whatever you want
03:26I'm not clapping back at that. I just kind of disagree with the notion that they're the best team
03:328 at 8 9 5 7 9 5 70 Niner fans when you hear Deebo Samuel say
03:37We've been the best team for a while. How does it make you feel Miguel in Hawaii? Aloha Miguel?
03:45Hey, how's it going guys?
03:47Originally from Modesto, but out here right now, but hey just to make the point clear. So on paper the Niners are
03:54the best team
03:56Per player talent wise and in theory if you have the most talented roster
04:01You should be the best team in the league
04:05Everyone knows that the Niners had what it took to beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl
04:10It's just a matter of actually getting it done
04:13Everyone was betting on the Niners to get it done. It just didn't happen
04:17So yes, the Niners do have the best team. They just couldn't get it done
04:22It just wasn't their night and a quick note on Brandon. I you yeah
04:26I think the Rams game is gonna be his his come out game. Look out for that
04:31I just think he needed a couple games to get in his groove and then everyone's gonna want to be buying his jersey
04:36Thanks guys. Thanks Miguel. I hope so. I hope somebody offensively is dynamic this weekend
04:42We'll get to some sort of
04:44idiosyncrasies with this Niners Rams matchup a little bit later on in the show and obviously with Greg Cosell who's coming up here in a
04:50Little bit over a half hour
04:52I mean what I hear there and some have said this on the Xfinity mobile text line as well
04:58Something to be said for this. I think in the NFL the playoffs are single elimination and and so
05:06Almost a little bit easier to look at a game and go. Well, wait a minute, you know even go back the year before
05:14That's what I walked away from the Eagles Niners NFC Championship game
05:19Not saying the Niners were better I walked away saying we'll never know
05:25We'll never know because the playing field did not end up equal and that happens sometimes
05:30because single elimination and because football and
05:35Hallacious injuries all the time
05:37Yeah
05:37And if you would have had Sam Darnold as your backup you might have had a chance to still win that game
05:41Maybe so you didn't and you had Josh Johnson and you know
05:45He turned out to not be the guy that you were looking for in that spot and you ran out of quarterbacks
05:49And so yeah, ultimately it doesn't matter if the Niners were better than the Eagles or not, and I thought the Eagles were better
05:55Stiney I hope you're listening. I thought the Eagles were better
05:58Anyway in that game where Brock Purdy's arm fell off
06:02But it doesn't matter and you could say the Niners have had the best team for a while and that's great
06:08And it's a soundbite and we're gonna play off of it
06:10but you have to go out there and show me the Dodgers have to go out there and win a World Series in a
06:15full season with a full playoff and
06:19everybody ready to go and play baseball and if you don't then it becomes a
06:24failure and it's the same thing with any of the team in any of the sport a team that has the
06:29Best roster you have to go out there and get it done when when the chips are down
06:33Well, and he didn't even use that word. You know what I mean best roster
06:38Fine and again, I want him feeling that way and I wonder what best team means for me
06:44It means best roster, but whatever. I I can't put myself into Debo's head for me
06:49Best team means best roster best head coach best everything. I think we've got the best team
06:54I think to him it means we should have won
06:58Right and and and I agree with him
07:02But you didn't but you didn't you didn't and then you get to label that however you want
07:06You want to call that a choker? You want to call it disappointing?
07:08Do you want to call it now? You're not the best team you can call it. Whatever you want
07:13I agree with him that if we're just gonna like zero in on last year. I thought they were the best team
07:19I thought they were better than the Chiefs
07:21I'll do but that's a way to look at it because were they better than the Packers?
07:28Maybe not. Well, I thought were they better than the Lions so they better than the Ravens
07:33No, they certainly were not better than the Ravens on that night
07:37That's to my point. Grandy is
07:40Ultimately, you only have to be the best team in that game on that night in that match
07:46Sure, and the Packers gave you a gift and the Lions gave you a couple of gifts
07:50Yeah, but we do this throughout the year right like you you've been big on what the Niners rest
07:57Advantage slash disadvantages
07:59So if we're gonna bring topics like that up, that's sort of how it lands with me
08:04Which is to say well
08:06We're not at the same starting gate and there are advantages and disadvantages
08:10Based on rest based on travel based on time of game based on injury list
08:15All of these things happen in any given game and can affect the outcome of the game
08:20And I don't know that that's a referendum on therefore quote who's the best team
08:27Fair but if you want to take that to the playoffs last year, you had the rest advantage against Green Bay
08:33By a week. Yeah, cuz Green Bay played the week before you were the top seed you played at home
08:38You had a week and you had to dig deep to win that game
08:40That one's hard to sort of figure, you know
08:42Like did Green Bay outplay the Niners for more of the night than the other way around?
08:47Probably yeah, it's close
08:48Same thing with the Lions like the Lions owned a half and then the Niners owned a half
08:53They did and you know
08:54The the Niners owned a half and Dan Campbell kind of made it so that you were able to escape it
09:00And then you had even rest with Kansas City on a neutral field and you owned most of that game
09:05I mean didn't get it done. So it's sports though, right like sports man sports and you drop the ball on the one
09:13You drop the ball on the one yard line Aaron Jones did it last weekend and and nothing got punched out
09:18Yeah, but like a lot of people like Tyson, you know what I mean?
09:21if we really start zeroing in go all the way to each of these individual efforts and
09:27and and how a game can swing in a large way because of these individual plays or
09:33A ball bounces off of a helmet for example. Yeah, and is that a referendum on who the best team is, you know?
09:40I always respected
09:42Something that Tiger Woods said years ago
09:44He was going into the Masters and there's the middle of the Tiger stuff now
09:48And he's going into the Masters and someone asked him
09:51What's it gonna take to win this week? And one of the first things he said he goes breaks. I
09:58Need breaks and Tiger obviously, not only did he think he was the best he was
10:04You know, I mean golf maybe is a stupid example here. But then again, there's a piece of it
10:09Who's the best golfer is most of the time not gonna win the tournament?
10:13Most of the time Scotty Scheffler with all of his wins most of the time he doesn't yeah tough example
10:19Cuz he is most of the time this year, right, but I know what I'm saying
10:22Like only he's the best
10:24The best doesn't win every time and golf is not like football and football is not like baseball like basketball like hockey
10:31Basketball the best team wins more often than any other sport. I agree with you baseball. It's a little bit, you know based on
10:38Dominance you could have a pitcher come in and dominate like the Giants they won three World Series because they had at times
10:46Dominant pitchers who dominated in the postseason and it was Timmy a little bit of mad bum a lot of mad bum a little bit
10:53Of Matt Cain, but they had performances that were dominant that helped them in that way football is much more of a crapshoot
11:00But to Debo's comment about we've had the best team for a while
11:05Well, then you need to get one of these done and I'm you know, I hate to be on team Grandy
11:10But it becomes a little bit frustrating if you're the best team and you don't win at all. It's hard to hear
11:15I totally agree with you men again in any sport
11:18I could give you examples like for those of you who want to play this black and white and
11:23Grandy, I'm not necessarily saying that you are maybe a little bit
11:27Maybe not as firm as like for instance most recent text that just came in Xfinity mobile text line 9 to 5
11:33Dude the best team is the team that wins at all
11:36Stop doing mental gymnastics to convince yourself the Niners are the best
11:39All right, so I like and I will do this coming up here sometime soon
11:43I'm gonna make a list in the history of championships in the major sports where somebody won it all and there's no way in hell
11:50You think they're the best team no way in hell like upsets happen
11:54Upsets happen and you will not walk away being like well
11:58They were the best I get where you're coming from and you can look at it that way
12:04I don't and that comes down to how we wanted to find the word
12:09Right. Let's go to Jor-Vell in Antioch. Hey Jor-Vell. Thanks for calling
12:15Hey, hey fellas, and thank you for taking my call for a first time calling it to your guys's show
12:19Thank you doing an awesome job doing a great job. So follow me real quick
12:24So he said let's break down what he said. He said they were the best team for a while
12:28You have to qualify for a while, right?
12:30You have to have a team that's been to the at least to say the NFC championship
12:35Multiple consecutive years with the diners have so you can qualify them as one of the best team in the Super Bowl
12:42They were pretty much the best team up until the fourth quarter
12:45The caveat to me is they were the best team, but they have the worst moment. They always kind of end up
12:53Something happens whether it's Brock Carty's arm, whether it's a buck whether it's
12:57shot and making a bonehead decision at the
13:01For overtime, but they are I believe they are the best teams, but they have the worst moment
13:08That's an interesting way to put it Jor-Vell. Thank you very much
13:10And again, Devo Samuel says on his podcast. We've been the best team for a while Niner fans when you hear that
13:17How does it make you feel eight at eight nine five seven nine five seventy?
13:21Yeah, that's I mean that's an interesting way to put it and I'm kind of with you dibs where and I think this is
13:28What Jor-Vell is getting at in a way?
13:31Hearing Debo say that it frustrates you even more because if you let's say you are like me and there's at least
13:38Portions of you that agree with what Debo saying it becomes even more frustrating that you haven't gotten over the top
13:46Right that you haven't done it because you are you should have you are I thought they were the best team all last year
13:53That's why I feel like I can say that there were days where they weren't the best team out there
13:57Certainly on Christmas my god, they stunk but all year long
14:01I'm like you watch all the games and take an info months at a time. I think this is the best team
14:09But they didn't do it, but they didn't do it
14:11So you can be the best team all you want and you know you go to any beauty pageant where you've got the best-looking
14:19pageant contestant and
14:21She's killing it in the swimsuit and the evening gown is wonderful
14:25And then she gets to the interview, and it's like what's the capital of North Dakota, and she says Paris
14:31And it's like oh boy there goes that pageant winner
14:34It doesn't matter if you're the best team if you get to Super Bowl Sunday
14:39And you don't get it done
14:40And you have a play in the red zone where you score a touchdown
14:44And you probably will win the game and you have a blocker go the wrong way you get a free runner the quarterback has no
14:51time and a wide open iuk is not hit and you settle for three and you give Mahomes the ball and he scores a
14:57Touchdown and you lose so it comes down to any of these games and we can look at last Sunday
15:02Think about the five biggest game plays in that game and of the five biggest plays
15:08Minnesota won four of them the 97-yard touchdown the punt block
15:15The one that I'm thinking about that the Niners actually won would be the fourth down to Jawan Jennings where Brock threw it into double
15:21Coverage and gosh great throw, but the majority of the big plays were won by Minnesota
15:26So it doesn't matter if you're the best team if you can't win the big game
15:30But then again like they have won plenty of big games and think about if we you know you mentioned the NBA
15:35Where most often the best team wins and you're absolutely right, but we do this in football often based on one game
15:43Think about if we did that in basketball
15:45Think about that now one game one game
15:47Yeah
15:48Like the Warriors give me the nine losses when they went 73 and 9 give me who they lost to
15:52Like are we gonna suggest at least on that given night that Charlotte?
15:58Was better than the Warriors or did they just win the game and there are factors involved in that
16:04That's why there are seasons
16:06Like an entire season is what determines night
16:09And it does become difficult in a football way
16:13Like no one's gonna argue over the last if you did make this about the last two or five years
16:19It's a pretty hard argument to not say that the Chiefs are the best team
16:23I don't know how the hell you would argue anything else, and that's what he's doing here
16:28but I pause because the Chiefs are the best team and
16:34In this city we run around all day long going they should have won both times
16:38Well, then that sort of means to me that you you think somewhere in right the Niners are better
16:43I don't think about it that way because you didn't and you had two chances at it and
16:49Each time you had a lead and each time you didn't get it done
16:53And I'm looking at the numbers since 2019 and the Chiefs are 65 and 20 in the regular year and the Niners are
17:0055 and 30 very good, but you're playing different like they're not you're not running the same schedule
17:05And I would I would agree with you more had they not had a couple of big head-to-heads in
17:10The Super Bowl and also head-to-heads in the regular season where Kansas City
17:15Smacked them they tap that
17:17Yeah, I won't do a grandie. They've only played Brock once
17:22Like I find these versions of the Niners get grouped and they're not the same
17:26I don't find Shanahan's first Super Bowl team to be Shanahan's second Super Bowl team, but they both lost
17:32They're both lost so to the same team right sort of in similar a lot of different players on both sides
17:38Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kansas City beat with defense more in this last one than they did the first no doubt
17:43And they were a better defensive team this time around than they were the time before Dustin in Martinez is next up
17:498 8 9 5 7 9 5 7 8. Hi Dustin. Thanks for calling
17:53Hey, what's up guys, of course?
17:55Yeah, man, as soon as I heard that I instantly thought if you ain't first you're last, you know
18:01I've heard I just felt like
18:03best of
18:05Best team out there. I just thought oh, yeah, that's loser out there
18:08You know, it's kind of like
18:10First place at losing basically is what I thought
18:14Hey Dustin, can I ask you what you do for a living?
18:19Not racing
18:21Okay
18:25Okay, is your utility company the absolute number one in its industry
18:35No, okay, do you think your company's a loser?
18:41Yes
18:43Wow
18:46Yeah, yeah, I cut it that call went for me the same way the Super Bowl went for the Niners
18:53Winning winning winning lost. Yep
18:56It's not the same in business. Of course unfair. No, it's no it's not you put the collar into an unfair situation
19:05Because you could be second in business and still be a winner. You can't be second in football and still see
19:11Oh, we get a Lombardi too because we we showed a profit
19:15nobody's calling for Capri Suns and and and trophies for everybody, but I don't fought like if you
19:23characterize the last five years of Niner football as
19:28Loserville, come on, man
19:31They're not losers, but they're they're not the best team in football and Grandy almost broke his neck
19:37Nodding with this guy said that the Super Bowl loser is the first loser
19:41They're not losers like I get it
19:45It's frustrating as hell and they lost the game and it's disappointing and it's all of these things
19:51but you cannot characterize the last five years of 49er football as
19:57They're like the biggest losers. You can't do that. I don't characterize it as
20:02Disappointing frustrating held tons of fun throughout the journey's great. It's really good football team
20:09We've had this age-old debate dibs and I
20:11So many times and a great question for example would be and this was kind of thrown out
20:17Would you rather be a Rams fan right now or a Niners fan for the last five years? Yeah, I you get five years
20:24essentially outside of the the one wonky torn ACL you get five years of like
20:30dude, you're dancing you are always dancing, but you ain't got that thing and
20:36The Rams you got that thing and then you've got four years of
20:41high level suck bill
20:44I'm taking the Niners
20:45They're 46 and 39 over the last five years since 2019 the Rams the Rams so slightly above 500
20:53Mostly like 9 and 8 10 and 7 7 and 10 years best player always hurt buttering
20:59Yep
21:00You got a bowl and you can't include the fact that their Super Bowl did not include
21:06Like a big-time parade because the market that they're in is different
21:11And we know that and if you're in LA the Rams are the fourth professional team
21:16behind the Raiders USC and
21:21LAFC soccer team and then you get to the Rams. Yeah, so Dodgers Lakers
21:27Really
21:28Sure, I mean UCLA men's volleyball all the rest of it
21:31So yeah, it's a little different down in LA, but if you would have taken that level of success
21:3746 and 39 and put it here would Niner fan want that one
21:42Lombardi in four years of mediocrity not me this I understand if you say yes, not me
21:48I got Rams fans in the family. I'm having way more fun every Sunday than they are
21:54Way more fun, they're owing to and both their receivers are on IR. Yeah, we're having way more fun seven and a half point
22:01trucked at
22:03Home home. Yeah, not to give away my pick early and fade the dibber now foreign to fade me at your own
22:09Don't jump to the Niner game. We got a Thursday night or tomorrow
22:14You know, I'm gonna win it
22:16You're hot fade me