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00:00:00Celtics beat is brought to you by price picks and the game time app
00:00:06Welcome in everyone new Celtics beat thrilled to be here with you Adam Kaufman and Valenti
00:00:12We are always here, but our special guest who of course is a former NBA Finals MVP
00:00:18Although honestly, that's it's you don't even have to say former
00:00:21It's not like they take it away from you an NBA Finals MVP a Celtics legend a longtime
00:00:27Commentator and still on the radio broadcast and of course part of the CLNS media network as well
00:00:33Cedric Maxwell Max, how are you? I am doing excellent guys, you know
00:00:39Long days, you know
00:00:41but you know the Boston Celtics right now or
00:00:44Look like they're in the driver's seat when it comes to possibly going to Vegas
00:00:50We got a lot of stuff to get to of course for people out there wondering and I can't imagine anyone is out there wondering
00:00:56Cuz if you're listening to the show, you're probably a die-hard Celtics fan Vegas. Why would they go to Vegas?
00:00:59Well, that is of course chasing that in-season tournament that Emirates NBA Cup
00:01:06Look, I well I'll save my thoughts
00:01:08The NBA Cup a lot's happened in the last week since we had a show
00:01:13Ho-hum three Celtics wins most coffee coffee coffee. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we get to that
00:01:20Can we give the guy a little happy birthday? I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna get there
00:01:24I'm gonna say let here's what I was gonna say. Have you ruined it? I was gonna say three Celtics wins
00:01:30Cavaliers first loss a White House trip, but most importantly a happy belated birthday. Yes
00:01:38Thank you very much gentlemen
00:01:41Happy 69 and I feel like guys. I'm 49, but you know except for my knees
00:01:48If they feel like they're 89, but I don't think I'm gonna be running down the court anytime soon
00:01:55So, thank you very much. I appreciate it. You do anything fun to celebrate
00:01:59No, you start to get older. You just happen. You know the next morning comes
00:02:12A little bit of
00:02:15Stuff with some friends, but other than that not much or anything
00:02:21Not those days when you used to put that, you know
00:02:23Put the salad bag on and you having to drag you back or carry you in the car
00:02:28You got two people on both show. You don't need show. That's right
00:02:32I'm not no I'm not doing it. I'm good. I got a quick question for Max's
00:02:37We what was great was CLNS put out a video of you
00:02:41You're walking, you know looking cool as hell walked down the hallway to where you know, wherever you were headed
00:02:47But my question is because this is my like this is my industry here
00:02:51Where are you getting four button suits max because I I work in this industry. I don't know where the hell you're getting those
00:02:57Going overseas for these that will be called right now
00:03:02Thailand my friend
00:03:06You can do a four button suit if you six eight
00:03:10275 no question. Yeah, you can do now a smaller guy
00:03:13We don't recommend you doing all those buttons, but I can carry that extra button. It's you know, I did I love to use
00:03:21Like South Korea or where it was it was it was in it was
00:03:26Itaewon
00:03:28South Korea, I used to go all the time. I haven't been in a while
00:03:32guy called me
00:03:34About a month ago and asked me when you coming when you coming back to to Korea when you coming back
00:03:40I want your business
00:03:42But I just haven't had the opportunity since Colbert when Colbert came and Colbert left
00:03:47I don't think I've been to many other places like going
00:03:50No out of the States
00:03:54So we had well, I mean you haven't even been leaving the state of Massachusetts too much lately
00:03:59I was all prepared to say how was the White House?
00:04:01I was that I mean everyone's posting their pictures all the media the players, you know
00:04:06Walking it like Tatum's taking a picture with like and you know, Obama picture behind
00:04:11Everyone's just taking the tour having the time of their lives. Not only did you not go and you had a good reason
00:04:17I'll let you you know, share that with the people but you've never been
00:04:21Despite the Celtic success over the years and that blew me away. Yeah, it's really strange. I have a video clip
00:04:29Jack I'll try to share it with you one day Ronald Reagan
00:04:34Using my name at the White House and read our back behind him and said Cedric Maxwell I had 24 points and Nate that
00:04:41and
00:04:42Then they asked he didn't use my name again. It was so cool, but I've never
00:04:47Never gone. I think the only time I'm gonna go now is gonna be maybe like a White House tour and that I can't imagine
00:04:54That and I'll ask you the question. I asked them off the record of men to go and I'll ask you now
00:05:01Is this the last?
00:05:03NBA team that's gonna go to the White House for the next four years
00:05:07Great question. I mean, I'm not gonna be anywhere near an NBA franchise. That's gonna win a title for the next four years
00:05:12So I won't know but I know Gary Washburn. I think wrote an article about this and in the globe yesterday two days ago
00:05:20So it's certainly something to consider I mean I again I like that Jalen said when they were there like I
00:05:28Being here. It's not a political statement. But if my boys were at the White House or Waffle House, I'm gonna be with them
00:05:35No matter what I thought was a really great quote and it's like wow, it's really not about you know
00:05:41He's he shot the way he shot the Waffle House in the White House in the same land. Oh
00:05:46Yeah
00:05:53Yeah, he's going everywhere and that that's like, you know, it's more about a celebration of team accomplishments, I guess I don't know
00:06:07Yeah, I guess you could have gone White Castle cuz White House White Castle but Waffle House
00:06:11I think probably has more like more bull
00:06:13House is a southern place. There isn't a Waffle House near here. There's not a Waffle House is throughout the South
00:06:23White White castles. I think White Castle might be through I'm more of the across the country then
00:06:29Yeah, but I like the closest one is is like in the New York area. I don't at least that's when I
00:06:37Got one but there's no but there's no Waffle House
00:06:41Waffle House, I think as far as it goes up might get to
00:06:46Virginia it might get to maybe Philly, but I doubt it. So I just say down south. That's where it
00:06:54Waffle houses generated all their their foods and their legendary fights in the middle of the night
00:07:00What do you think max does? I mean since you posed the question, obviously does
00:07:04You are you more inclined to agree with Jalen that it's not necessarily an appearance that is tied to your whatever your political standing your political belief is it's celebration of team and that's why you're there simply to be honored by the
00:07:19You know establishment, you know of the presidency in the White House and all of that that comes with it
00:07:24That's been a tradition
00:07:26I'll be it not necessarily an annual one because you know, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's
00:07:32Not necessarily an annual one because there are teams that have skipped it but a tradition that has gone on for a long long time
00:07:38Or do you think people are you know, at least in the NBA community and we know some coaches certainly are
00:07:45on the whole so repulsed by
00:07:48Donald trump that for the next four years as you said they like no we're out like if if we win a title
00:07:54We're not going. No, I can't imagine one going
00:07:57Uh, Jalen Brown can say that but Jalen Brown is very active politically
00:08:02So I can understand you know, but again you have to be invited also come to the White House
00:08:08Remember the one memo when it first happened. I think golden state said no we don't want to go and trump said well
00:08:14I didn't invite you anyway, right? Yeah
00:08:18So I don't I just can't see a nba team going. I don't see a w nba team going
00:08:25Does major league baseball go now, especially with all the stuff about the people from latin america, which you know
00:08:32Or you know, do you see one of those teams going?
00:08:35I mean
00:08:36football bolsa went I think he was uh big with the president, uh with san francisco when they won it, but
00:08:44I I can't see
00:08:45Nba, I don't see major league baseball w nba
00:08:50I tell you I got one nascar. They'll be there
00:08:53They'll be and and then uh, johnny jones bones homes or whatever his name was he did the uh,
00:09:00Trump dance and gave him his uh, uh gave him his uh, his belt the other day. So maybe that might because uh,
00:09:07What's the dana? What's dana's name?
00:09:10White is uh big in uh, trump world. Yeah
00:09:15Yeah, for sure. I mean, I I don't know. I think it's it's gonna be
00:09:18Up to a team thing. I mean we'll we'll see I I can I obviously see
00:09:23Come on, you know, look I want both you guys have some balls. Come on, man
00:09:27I mean if it were up to me if it were up to me, thank you
00:09:30And my teammates didn't feel comfortable going then I wouldn't go. I'd be like look man
00:09:34How about you would you personally would you go?
00:09:38uh
00:09:40Probably not. I mean look man. We live in massachusetts. Uh, I think people could probably guess how I voted for things
00:09:46um
00:09:47It's not really a secret here. Uh
00:09:50I live in the most like liberal part of massachusetts as well. I live towards the other end of the state
00:09:55So would it be shocking for me?
00:09:58um
00:09:58But and I could I and you know
00:10:00Look, I could understand if my teammates didn't feel comfortable going either and i'd be like if they don't feel like going
00:10:04I don't feel comfortable going then we're not going
00:10:07Yeah, I mean, I think that's the I think that's the divide like for me personally, you know, and and
00:10:12I didn't vote for trump, you know again
00:10:15Massachusetts resident not that not that I don't know people in massachusetts that did vote for trump, but I
00:10:20I align democrat always have that's fine. But like when it comes to
00:10:25this again to me
00:10:27and i'm not
00:10:29i'm, not super politically oriented to begin with so to me it is more a
00:10:34Celebration of team than it is how you feel about whoever is in office at that point in time. So I would sort of
00:10:42Fall with the crowd for lack of a better way of putting it
00:10:46Let me put you on the spot if you're the team captain and I came to you right now
00:10:50Yeah, okay team captain make a decision here. Are we going to the white house? What would you say?
00:10:56Does everyone have to follow?
00:10:59I'm, just asking you you your opinion. I would go I would go
00:11:03But I would but I wouldn't go alone, you know, I'd I'd if if my teammates weren't comfortable going and didn't want to go
00:11:10I wouldn't go, you know what I mean? But if if you're saying would I rather go versus not go?
00:11:16And you know be honored at the white house by whichever the president it is
00:11:22Yeah, I just think that's a problem. I I would love to talk to some of the players that were just there
00:11:27to
00:11:28Because i'll never know personally obviously to know like what the experience is like is it something that you know?
00:11:34Now now that you've done it and I don't even know they could put themselves in this
00:11:39Extreme hypothetical, but now that you've done it
00:11:42All right. Now I told you
00:11:44The only way you could do it you like you haven't done it. You're replacing the situation
00:11:49The only way you could do it now
00:11:51Is that you're swapping out who's obviously president trump is president. It's no longer biden. Obviously, it's not harris
00:11:58Everything else that comes with it still applies
00:12:01Would you go?
00:12:02Or would you have skipped it?
00:12:04And i'd be curious to know what some of them would say or or I don't even know how truthful they'd be with it
00:12:09Maybe it's something you'd you know, the the kind of conversation you'd have to have off the record with them
00:12:13You know what? I mean, but i'd i'd be wondering i'd i'd be curious
00:12:17And now okay, let me tell you my opinion on it. Okay
00:12:21They're eating your dogs and your cats
00:12:27What the hell
00:12:28No, I would not go I and and I know we're not supposed to be political
00:12:33we talk about stuff like this and basketball, but
00:12:37Uh, if you listen to greg popovich talk about it, you listen to steve curr talking about it
00:12:43a lot of the people who have been
00:12:46the hierarchy of the nba
00:12:48Have not been on that train. So
00:12:52So you're also naming two people that have been to the white house many times and been honored by multiple presidents
00:12:58But they went but they wouldn't go now for this president, right?
00:13:01But what if it was your first and potentially only opportunity I look they sing a different tune
00:13:07Maybe I I had one opportunity to go this time. Did I go?
00:13:11I mean I did what I did and i'll let you guys in I actually was uh tradition, uh, the heritage
00:13:17They had the thing for d brown. Uh, tito
00:13:21uh gronk
00:13:23um
00:13:24Hamel and it was somebody else. Oh, it was uh parks
00:13:28Uh was were there and they were all being honored and d brown asked me to be his um,
00:13:34uh his lead guy to uh, be the guy who spoke for him when he he got a
00:13:40Yeah, so, uh the presenter so it was really cool and uh, I enjoyed I enjoyed the experience and um,
00:13:48Uh sean brandy ended up going my broadcast partner
00:13:52And he sent me back a message saying I chose wisely
00:13:56So maybe that maybe that'll tell you what went on and you know
00:14:00But uh good good for them. I I was happy to see him
00:14:04There's here's a bigger bigger thing that I love the fact that they were all dressed in suits
00:14:09Didn't that just really just make it just make you feel good about man these guys go to the white house. No, no
00:14:17What i'm not talking about that i'm just talking about the fact that they were dressed well
00:14:22That's one thing. That's the one thing that hockey gets, right
00:14:25If you've ever seen these hockey guys come to a game or leave a game or go get on the bus
00:14:31They're dressed in suits and ties. They're representing their brand when I see my nba
00:14:36uh
00:14:37Players come in and I know it's a different time
00:14:40But when I came to the league initially, that's what they told you tom. Heinsohn red are back told me
00:14:46When you're out in public right now and you're with this team, you're representing this team
00:14:51Have a suit tie on the only thing you if you don't have a tie have a mock troll neck
00:14:57Because you're representing a brand now. I don't know. Sometimes I look at these guys what they're wearing
00:15:03How can you figure what the hell they're what is that? I saw marcus smart one time he had on the uh,
00:15:08He had on a robe
00:15:10from the hotel
00:15:12And he's going to the game like
00:15:15What brand are you representing when you do that the hotel yeah, I mean
00:15:21I mean, you'll have a hero, you know missing a game
00:15:24He'll be sitting on the bench court side and like a velour track suit or something like that
00:15:28It's like yeah
00:15:29Not everyone does it up the way the kp does there in uh in in all the the great looks that he's got
00:15:34Although it does raise the question. It doesn't matter. We're so far off the rails
00:15:38Anyway, but the you know, they've they've changed the rules in in recent years
00:15:42I remember how many years ago it was at this point in time handful, whatever it was that you know
00:15:46Coaches no longer have to wear suits on the sidelines. Obviously, is that but coaches are uniforms
00:15:53They all have uniforms
00:15:57Black or sweater or whatever it is
00:15:59Yeah, but would you would you rather that all the the coaches were still wearing suits or do you not care?
00:16:03I would rather for the coaches to wear some suits
00:16:06Yeah, it just said to me. I I remember the chuck davis. I remember the the look of a pat riley
00:16:12And I looked at him going. Oh, wow, man. That is so so cool what he's wearing as a coach, you know
00:16:18I I remember those days
00:16:20So yeah, those are days that I wish somehow could come back. I know they're not
00:16:25I know i'm know i'm scrooge right now and
00:16:28That's just the way I feel
00:16:30I mean, I I used to love jay wright just every tune in every villanova games to see what jay wright's wearing
00:16:34That guy was impeccably dressed. Yeah, every every game guy was wait. What did that? Let me ask you
00:16:40What did that do for you when you saw a coach dressed like that
00:16:43Well, look man, you're preaching to the choir here. I loved it. It looks like a little professionalism, you know
00:16:49Thank you
00:16:51And it's not like jay wright had to wear a suit to convey professionalism the guys at nba
00:16:55He's an ncaa champion. It's not like he didn't
00:16:59What was he conveying
00:17:00Being the excellence. Yeah excellence. This is how you come to a game. This is how you represent this
00:17:06I represent my university
00:17:08not in the freaking track suit, I mean
00:17:12Dude, really pictures for the first time i'd ever seen joe mazula in a suit
00:17:16Oh, it was nice. Wasn't wasn't a nice picture. I think derrick white wore a tux
00:17:21I'm, pretty sure derrick white had like a tux on that. I don't know. I
00:17:25I love the fact that they got dressed up. I I couldn't have been more proud of seeing them
00:17:31I mean jaylen and seeing tatum and and and the way you know, they I mean
00:17:37It was just so cool for me to see that
00:17:39They represented the brain again. You're preaching to the choir here max. This is all I could go all day on this
00:17:44I did a whole I could rank them all if you wanted to but we don't have time for that
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00:19:36So I know that joe and the players have been you know, speaking of preaching they've been preaching since you know training camp that
00:19:45Page has turned as soon as you've I mean really as far as they were concerned
00:19:49They showed up post media day the page was turned other people might have said the page was turned after the
00:19:54Ring ceremony and the hoisting of the banner. Well this right here plus i'm mistaken was the you know final
00:20:01Celebration acknowledgement of banner 18 this white house visit which teams off to a banner start pun intended
00:20:07I guess 13 and 3 and we'll talk a little bit about what they've been doing lately including that big win over the cavaliers
00:20:14But you know is is this officially the the line of demarcation max are are we now fully
00:20:20Banner 18 is behind us. It's it's full steam ahead now that the white house visit has happened
00:20:24No, because you are still the reigning. What does it say reigning nba chance? Sure. It doesn't stop until somebody's still celebrating
00:20:33It's just like you're you go to an arena and you go someplace and they said the world champions are here
00:20:39That's how that's how that was my mindset that's how other teams look at it when they try to beat you
00:20:45Every game that the world champions come in to your building
00:20:50That represents an opportunity. It's like last night washington had no need to be in that game
00:20:55But washington played hard enough to be in that game
00:20:59That game would have made their season every time you step out on the court
00:21:03And i've said this to brown i've said to tatum anybody
00:21:06You are representing not only that and you're the boss themselves and even world champions
00:21:11Come on, do you think you think oh, it's just another game when you go see the lakers right now. Is that how you feel?
00:21:19Absolutely not well, I might have the last couple of years but they're playing better under reddick now
00:21:25But right now
00:21:26Yeah, world champions are coming in your building. No, it's absolutely it's i'm not questioning whether
00:21:34So you don't believe
00:21:36On the forehead all that. I just mean are are we as
00:21:40The the greater we the royal we are we still celebrating last year or is full attention now on this season?
00:21:48I just got my ring last week
00:21:53What does that say I just got my ring last week so no we're still celebrating from last year
00:22:00That happens when you to the victor goes to spoils until somebody dethrones you you are the world champions now
00:22:07Is your mindset should it be different like okay, let's forget about what we did last year
00:22:13Well other teams haven't forgotten it and when you played the cavaliers the other day and the cavaliers were 15 and oh
00:22:20Uh, and they were playing against they were they had not lost a game. And how did how did the headlines read?
00:22:27Cavaliers 15 and oh first times to ever happen where they are playing right now the nba champions
00:22:33This is the first time so so are you still talking about the same thing?
00:22:37You are yes you are. So don't don't if it's just because it's uh, you know
00:22:42Just because you got a pig and you put some lipstick on it doesn't mean it's not a pig anymore
00:22:47You're the world champions. You're still wearing that that crown so
00:22:51You you should embrace it be proud of it
00:22:54But also be worried because there are teams that are going to come at you because you are the world champions
00:22:59You happy with that ring?
00:23:01Excuse me. You happy with the ring? Oh, I love it map. I got i'm hoping I can show you guys rings, right?
00:23:08Actually, it's all that. I didn't see if I could do this. Yeah, it's gonna be really weird now
00:23:13It's gonna be really weird throw it up in front of the camera. Don't be really weird. Oh, yeah unboxing. Here we go
00:23:19Unboxing I think I need to do unboxing. Tell me can you see you can see the box? Oh, yeah
00:23:28Sorry, this is this is a real bummer for the people
00:23:30But if you're watching this is good stuff. Okay, this comes out here. Okay, here's the box. Here's the box
00:23:37I gotta turn around this way
00:23:39Yeah, I got a label on the front. Yeah label on the front of it and this what happens when you take it
00:23:45Oh, that's nice
00:23:47It's spinning. Oh
00:23:50The battery power can it replace that battery eventually? Oh, yeah
00:23:54spinning in the box
00:23:56That's how they give it to you
00:23:58That's awesome. Now you guys spare no expense
00:24:01You guys are the first ones to see this when I saw it. I about have a cow
00:24:07This is the this is the championship ring and they have I think they actually have my name is on the side
00:24:13They have two other trophies in there. So I think they did it somewhat individualized
00:24:19Yeah, you know you as a player so this actually was this was my platform I had on
00:24:25That you know, I was doing the whole thing and when you close it
00:24:29Everything goes down
00:24:31But when you open it when you open it, it starts spinning again with the light going on when you oh my god, dude
00:24:37That is so cool
00:24:39Well is how how uh, you know, it's like joe was talking about like where would I ever wear this?
00:24:44This is obnoxious. It's too big my words not his but he like obviously these i'm assuming
00:24:50I I know there are the levels of championship rings
00:24:52And so yeah, you know you guys don't get like what the players get but obviously that is a massive gorgeous ring
00:24:59Will you wear it around have you worn it around last couple days? I have not I have not worn it around
00:25:05I have not been in that position where I was wearing it around
00:25:08That's only when you put on the four-piece
00:25:11No, this would be you know what i'm gonna wear this ring when I go when I watch this guys
00:25:15Watch how I work work this back in i'm gonna wear this ring when I go to los angeles
00:25:22So wait, are you saying i've let it go i've turned the page is that what you're saying right now
00:25:28You have not turned the page. You don't have to you're not out on the floor
00:25:31I turn the page when I go to la and this is the only time i'm gonna take this ring with me
00:25:37No, I haven't so you celebrate, you know to the victim goes to spoils or however that goes and you know
00:25:44I'm, just happy that that uh, you know, they gave me another ring and this is ring number four right now for me and uh,
00:25:51and right now
00:25:53Since you know, you broke the tie with the lakers man. This is that is a really cool thing to have
00:25:58The quote unquote tie since you know, they didn't start counting minneapolis until it was convenient
00:26:03You know, that's what happens that you know that that the the counters always do that, but I did acknowledge them last year
00:26:10When I went in and saw their mid-season banner up there. I said, wow, you guys got another flag up there
00:26:18But but listen this so i've been thinking about this actually so i'm glad you brought that up
00:26:21So I think the in-season tournament
00:26:25Is is fine
00:26:26You can have whatever thoughts you want on the tournament
00:26:28On the tournament but the the banner the hoisting of the banner as the lakers did last year I think is embarrassing
00:26:35I think that's that's like a that's that's a you know, that's that's like the king's franchise should do that
00:26:43But but but i'm not sure it's the lakers fault like that i'm guessing that's nba mandated, right? Yes
00:26:50I I so like if the celtics should have that's that's why I don't want the celtics to win the cup
00:26:55Because I don't want that banner in the rafters, you know what that is so cool because I did
00:27:00Hear and talk to wick about that about the banner. He said if I had won it I would have forced it up
00:27:08So yeah
00:27:09Among uh, if the celtics win it, I don't want it
00:27:14I don't think you have much say in this coffin. I think I think the nba is going to do it title game of the nba
00:27:19I love this. I don't want that
00:27:21I love Kaufman would say, you know what that white house thing, you know, i'm good with that, you know
00:27:27No, I would go maybe I think about but now we get to this banner and all of a sudden they're going
00:27:33I don't want that. No, I don't want that banner. I don't want that
00:27:36We play for real championships in boston max. You know that better than we do
00:27:41Well, we play for real championships, but at the same time
00:27:45It's it's not really laughable
00:27:47When you think about each player if they win it if they win this thing 500k, yeah, they get 500k purple
00:27:55And i'm sure i'm sure i'm sure
00:27:58Others, but the banner will probably have the the emirates logo on it somewhere. I'm sure they're paying for that. So
00:28:04I'm sure they want that. I'm sure they want that up there
00:28:07So up to the beanpot banner
00:28:09I mean that is just crazy to think that and I talked to mochix about that a former player
00:28:14A guy I played against him when he went to 76s. I said mo. Can you imagine?
00:28:21a game being played
00:28:23for
00:28:25$500,000 a man
00:28:27During my era. I mean they would have to have a fleet of ambulance
00:28:34Carried
00:28:36I gotta use this line to carry motherfuckers down. Okay, that's what they would have to do
00:28:41Because you would have went to the hoop and you would have been looking both ways like this this is gonna hurt
00:28:47No layups tonight. No layups. You gotta earn everyone
00:28:50Yeah
00:28:51I have these around here. We're talking like when michael irvin adam sandler played pickup in longest yard. Yeah
00:28:58I don't know. I'm not i'm gonna call it
00:29:01But that's this is crazy to think about
00:29:04$500,000 for one game one game. Yeah, and this how mad is mj right now?
00:29:11These are guys who go out these are guys who occasionally go out
00:29:15You think about guys when they were playing back in the day for a case of beer
00:29:19Whoever wins is gonna win a case of beer
00:29:22No, you're talking about what?
00:29:24We can go we can go down to where you come and buy the truck
00:29:27And and have the women come in deliver beer for five hundred thousand dollars. So, uh
00:29:33I I understand what you're saying
00:29:35Uh, it seems kind of ironic when you think about the boston celtics
00:29:40And but if they win it
00:29:42That banner is going up. I know
00:29:45Dumb as it is
00:29:47So max, we like I said three games since uh, since we last had a show they were all close
00:29:52I mean eat out a win against the raptors in overtime
00:29:56You know most recently obviously in washington. That was a a competitive game till the end the the celtics and credit missoula
00:30:03You know, they're going for the point differential and and you know getting as many free throws and everything as they could down the stretch
00:30:09So why did washington?
00:30:11I want to bring this up. Why did washington help their point differential? This blew my mind last night
00:30:16Yeah, I didn't really understand that either
00:30:19If you're coaching you're trying to get back at the celtics you're going i'm not fouling
00:30:24I mean i'm gonna guard you i'm gonna guard you even tougher right now, and i'm not calling the time out either
00:30:30i'm gonna hold the ball so
00:30:32What would the celtics gonna do foul them so they get the ball back and shoot?
00:30:36I mean, it was just it was I understand the concept
00:30:40but
00:30:41There's some flaws in there someplace and the basketball guys don't like it worked out for me, though
00:30:46I needed tatum at a measly 15 points as part of a parlay
00:30:50He got he got it with 11 seconds left in one of those trips to the free throw line
00:30:55I was sitting there sweating couldn't believe it was 0 for 10 from 3 you kidding
00:31:00What had this game against the calves at in boston that that was the the marquee matchup of the week
00:31:05It was you know, it was the one that everybody had circled who would have guessed there would be such an important mid-november game
00:31:12Austin and cleveland, but uh, you know when when you come in at 15 and oh
00:31:16I had said max. I I don't know what uh, excuse me. What what you what you felt for one personally, but also
00:31:23uh, what what the
00:31:24Vibe of the players was going in because I mean look players today
00:31:28More or less are trained to say like no game is more important than another we don't get up for it
00:31:34Blah blah blah blah blah. I was saying
00:31:37At least my belief was like this
00:31:39They cared this game mattered and it didn't matter because it was an nba cup game
00:31:45It mattered because it was you know, it was a litmus test. It was a you know, it was
00:31:51Bought it was it was a potential playoff preview. It was a reminder for the defending champs
00:31:57To you know tell you who we are and who you are and who you're chasing
00:32:02And that to me felt like a notable
00:32:05Kind of contest and boston. I know it was a three-point final ultimately
00:32:08But boston was running away with this thing early before the calves charge charge back late and made it a game
00:32:14But was there something extra to this game for you?
00:32:17And did you feel like there was for the players if you think that the players
00:32:22Did not care and it wasn't extra juice for that game. This is national televised game
00:32:27This is the biggest game right now
00:32:30This year on the circuit. So let me do like the like the famous john belucci
00:32:38You think that for instance that they didn't care no
00:32:42This was this was big time. It was a big time game a big time performance for the celtics
00:32:47and
00:32:49Everybody's and a lot of the national people left saying the cavaliers have closed the distance
00:32:56Did they realize that porzingis is a player?
00:33:01That is a huge part of what the boston celtics do
00:33:04Mowgli was able to run rough shot because they didn't have any bigs in there really capable of slowing them down
00:33:10When you put porzingis in there, he's going to change the tenor of how you play this game. So
00:33:17The cavaliers can look at it and national media can look at it and start saying oh well, you know
00:33:22Cavaliers have closed the distance. We don't know they've closed the difference distance until you get that seven foot five
00:33:29Guy in shoot three pointers and blocking shots
00:33:32Now you now you show me the real celtics and the real celtics right now
00:33:37This is still a very good team a great team, but they're still missing a very key piece
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00:35:22I want to hang on this for a little bit because this is actually something i've been
00:35:27Thinking about and this is what I want. I wanted to see what I got in the first half of that calves game
00:35:33Was and I almost
00:35:36Compare it to like steph curry and the warriors, right?
00:35:40Every time steph comes into somebody's building
00:35:43It's always like the other team's biggest game of the year because of the the history of of the warriors
00:35:48and I I thought this year when
00:35:51golden state came into boston that
00:35:54Steph it was almost like steph was like, oh you guys think you're the champs. Okay, cool
00:35:57Well, we've been there done that several times and we're going to show you how this is done
00:36:01I almost felt like steph
00:36:03the way he carries himself like personally like
00:36:06Just because you're the champ doesn't mean you're going to win this game tonight. Like we're going to handle this and I think steph
00:36:12Carries himself like that
00:36:14With some of these these measurement games, right? Whenever is they're playing denver or they're playing
00:36:20Uh the mavs or they're playing, you know, whatever contender there is he like he's under now
00:36:25Yeah, he carries himself like you guys think you're something but you're not i'm steph curry. I'm here to win this game
00:36:31so so you're saying that
00:36:33So what you're saying is that there is a carryover from them being the champion exactly exactly
00:36:39That was a narrative a little bit early in your show. Yeah, and I want in that calves game specifically
00:36:46I wanted to see boston come out with that same
00:36:49attitude of like oh you guys are 15, you know, it's cute like
00:36:52Roll the ball out. Let's see what happens in the first half. I'm like, yeah, this is exactly
00:36:57How I expect this to go and I actually did expect cleveland to have
00:37:00a little bit of a response
00:37:02and they did but at the end of the day boston was like, yeah, you're 15 game winning streets real cute, but uh,
00:37:08Not in here not in here guys, and I and that's the and like that and I I think we saw that same attitude
00:37:15Opening night against the knicks. Yeah, they're all off season. You heard about the knicks
00:37:19Oh the knicks are going to be the best team boston plays. They might even beat boston and boston's like that's cute
00:37:26Watch this and they wouldn't buy like 30
00:37:29So then on the flip side max and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this because I did I wanted to
00:37:35Kind of paint this picture a little differently
00:37:37So boston, this is saturday recording this friday night goes into, you know, dc coming off the white house
00:37:45Obviously not super jacked up
00:37:47Did you find it hard?
00:37:49You know in that next year after you won the title and i'll throw cleveland out there because cleveland that
00:37:5481 82 year they won 19 games
00:37:57They had I honestly I looked at the roster. I'm like, there's a lot of guys in here. I've never heard of before
00:38:02Like do you go into that game thinking?
00:38:05Like let's just get out of here with a win who cares what it looks like. Let's just
00:38:08You know, let's let's let's get some cardio in tonight
00:38:11Let's make sure we won't leave with a win, but let's not do anything crazy
00:38:13Is that a mindset of the locker room when you go into like a game like who cares?
00:38:18I think that you're talking about individual players
00:38:21like for me
00:38:22That is exactly how I was and that is one reason why people always felt like well, you know, you're not playing hard
00:38:30The one thing that I hated about playing with larry bird
00:38:34Is that larry bird could play the same way against the same?
00:38:39You know opposed different teams be it good be it bad or whatever
00:38:43Given the fans. Oh my god, dare I say their money's worth, you know when they came there larry just had such a but I didn't
00:38:51Some of us as people
00:38:54We we need to be motivated. Sometimes we get motivated or jacked up a little bit more
00:39:00It's like when you you know, like this there was one girl you used to like in college
00:39:05But there was another girl you really liked in college. So wait a minute
00:39:09I'm gonna put on extra cologne matter of fact, I might even take a damn shower girl
00:39:13I might put some lotion on my body
00:39:15And and that that's the the mindset that you start to have when you think about okay
00:39:21What am I gonna do? And this is a little extra. Yeah, there's there's some there's some extra sauce that certain players have
00:39:28Uh larry played like that against everybody
00:39:31Uh, he had that extra sauce
00:39:34um
00:39:35There's not a lot of players
00:39:37That play that way
00:39:39That I think richard plays that way. Yeah, richard plays like every game is his last game. Yeah
00:39:43It's out there and runs around like crazy. You're really you're right and and that is beautiful for him
00:39:50but in a 82 game schedule
00:39:53You're not gonna have much in the playoffs
00:39:55You ain't gonna have too much left in the tank and there was sometimes I felt like because larry played so hard
00:40:01During the regular season and not to say people on the coasting word, but he plays so hard during the regular season
00:40:09He didn't have that next year sometimes to go up to
00:40:12And uh, that's just uh, and that's just the way I feel but that's why i've been greatly maligned many times about you know
00:40:20You didn't play as hard as larry. You did larry did this
00:40:24Larry burr was that one individual that she just did not want to be on that same page
00:40:30And you know, I love people. They say that
00:40:331986 celta team. That's the greatest team of all time. Don't we how many times we heard that?
00:40:39Mm-hmm
00:40:40How many championships did they win?
00:40:45I mean the the one the one
00:40:49I like how the guy goes is oh
00:40:52Yeah
00:40:53But if you're but if you're that great of a team
00:40:57We aren't you supposed to win multiple championships?
00:40:59I don't want to hear this. I want this crap about you being about guys getting old or getting hurt that happens in sports
00:41:06But if you're the greatest team of all time
00:41:09Shouldn't you win more than one championship?
00:41:11Well, you might not be the greatest team of all time the next year, you know roster changes injuries
00:41:16I mean look no, they were they were just it was essentially the same team
00:41:20That they bought back and I don't remember all the specifics of the 86 87 team
00:41:25I'd have to look it up but thinking about like, you know
00:41:28Celtics win obviously the first year the new big three era 0708 and they were even better the following year after winning a title
00:41:35Until kg got hurt and then you know, everything went to crap
00:41:39but I mean they were well on their way to
00:41:42Making it two in a row and and could have been a three-peat if not for obviously the way things went south and in 10
00:41:49Sorry that happens
00:41:51Yeah, it's for us. It happens that you have to line up the next the next game
00:41:56And as we say, you know, I have my condolences goes out to my friend steve who passed away
00:42:02At fireflies a big restaurant around here i've always gone to
00:42:07but one thing we know
00:42:09Life is life is going to continue on it doesn't stop
00:42:13And the same thing when you talk about you know, when a guy gets hurt
00:42:17There's still gonna be another nba game next week. There's gonna be another game
00:42:21Uh, you know tomorrow or whenever it might be
00:42:25So when you have injuries you have to suck it up and you have to play are you are we trying to say?
00:42:31Kobe and them didn't have any injuries when they won
00:42:34Uh, you know bill russell's teams didn't have injuries
00:42:37So that's that's all I say because I I have many people who come up to me
00:42:43Uh at your tradition the other day and said man. Oh my god. What a what a team that was
00:42:48I was with you guys in 1986
00:42:51And I will always say this dude. I wasn't here in 1986. I got traded
00:42:56What no, no, no, no you you were here in 19
00:42:59I met you at night. I said no I got traded then I wasn't on that team. I'm not hating on that team
00:43:05They were a great team, but I I just did, you know, the greatest team of all time. I have
00:43:11Some fundamental thoughts when it comes to the greatest team of all time the only one one championship
00:43:17the uh
00:43:18you mentioned before that I I think is just
00:43:21I think it should be highlighted because it's easy for me to say it's easy for evan to say we have no
00:43:25credibility on the topic though
00:43:28You you were in the league for a long time and you know, obviously played with hundreds upon hundreds of players
00:43:35The fact that like the the whole like they you know, guys are always giving it their all you you can't play
00:43:40You can't give 110. No, you can't give 110. That's mathematically impossible. Thank you. But but but
00:43:48That also you know, you got to remember 110 may as well be considered 100 because not every guy is given 100
00:43:55Every single night there are some nights where guys just aren't giving it their all and maybe you're wired like a pritchard
00:44:01Maybe you're wired like a larry and you know, maybe you're wired like a cedric maxwell
00:44:06Like you said that you have some of these games where you're going. Oh, this is a real big game
00:44:11Hey guys, get on my back. I'll carry you across right now. Yeah
00:44:14Yeah, that was my mentality about playing the game and i'm sorry. I'm not apologizing to anybody
00:44:21But you know, that's that was my makeup as a player
00:44:24Some guys play differently than others and that's just it do we think about great red sox players guys who play how many times?
00:44:32We heard manny ramirez get just creamed
00:44:36Because he just did not you know, man. He's not giving it his all and man is not doing this
00:44:42But he was a world champion, but poppy on the other side was giving it all his all the whole time
00:44:48So I I just I I hate that comparison
00:44:51Yeah
00:44:52yeah, I think it just you know again if we're to look at these these two games right cleveland washington back to back like
00:44:58They won them both and and you know celtics had to maybe
00:45:03You know try a little harder toward the end then maybe they weren't necessarily at the beginning when they thought they might sleepwalk through that
00:45:09Game a little bit but like i'm sorry universally on the aggregate like the celtics were not
00:45:15Quote unquote trying as hard against washington as they were against cleveland. How about
00:45:20How'd it work out? How's your parlay workout? What did you need? I got there I got I mean, I mean you got there because of
00:45:27What the ignorance of what of of of washington? Is that how you got there? I I guess so look they don't win baby
00:45:40When you go check clues when you go to the cage with your ticket going, uh, well they uh,
00:45:46Oh, yeah, yeah, I want I want this. Yeah, so I think that that we can look at it and we can
00:45:52The end of the day in the beginning of the day, that's all that matters. Absolutely. Yes
00:45:58There wasn't but the parlay hits. That's what that ultimately is what matters. So
00:46:03Uh now now that we can yeah
00:46:05We've we've been I felt like we've been talking about that game for two weeks and would the calves still be unbeaten and da da
00:46:10Da da obviously we we saw the way it played out
00:46:12But I don't want to you know, I I feel like there's an element of us acting like, you know
00:46:17Boston steamrolled cleveland did in the first half didn't for the game one by three points
00:46:22And so when you watch that and it was you know
00:46:25We we used to talk about this a lot on the show talked about this recently as well when previewing this game
00:46:30I thought a couple years ago
00:46:32man, I know the celtics did knock the calves out in the playoffs, but I felt like
00:46:36Like if any team can really give boston a run in the east like I I really like cleveland
00:46:42it feels like this like this group is coming together and then last year for a
00:46:46Collection of reasons injuries were a big part of it
00:46:49They took a step back but here they are in what is a you know, kind of a a light eastern conference
00:46:55you know the the not to take anything away from
00:46:58the celtics obviously and what they're doing or even cleveland and what they're doing, but
00:47:02you know the
00:47:04Sixers aren't going to make the playoffs man. Like that team is a train wreck
00:47:07milwaukee
00:47:09You know milwaukee is obviously on you know, it's they'll they'll find a way to limp in but it's not a very good team
00:47:15Uh, new york. I I still do believe in indiana. I believe in I don't
00:47:20You know, well when I say I believe in them
00:47:23I mean they can give you a good series like they gave you last year
00:47:25I don't mean I don't think there's any team in the east that without injury can knock off. You know what?
00:47:31You sound like you sound like those guys that they're talking to me
00:47:34Uh, I was on national radio the other day and said for that, uh, the indiana they really gave you guys a really gave celtics
00:47:41a tough time I was like
00:47:43They got swept
00:47:45It was a competitive sweep max. Hey guys. Well, every game was close though
00:47:49I don't care. You guys a contestant sweep
00:47:53But to that point like if they see cleveland again in the playoffs
00:47:56five game series
00:47:59Tell me how many games for zingas is gonna play
00:48:02And
00:48:03No, how many get seriously the games for zingas is gonna play how healthy are the boston celtics if the boston celtics are healthy
00:48:12The cavaliers get one game
00:48:14Yeah, if the celtics are healthy they get one game if the celtics are healthy this year
00:48:20They win another championship. They get another banner
00:48:23Uh, so that let's just put that to bed now
00:48:26Now you got the next game which is coming up the chicago game to go to vegas
00:48:32And I guess you're hoping right now that the celtics lose so they don't go to vegas. Just don't bring home the best
00:48:41That's like that's like going to vegas saying i'm not gambling
00:48:46You know as you get off the first time I went to vegas the first time I got off the airplane I hear
00:48:53You know, i'm still still right now getting off the plane
00:48:59Wait a minute, they do not have a slot machine in the airport in the waiting area as you get off the plane
00:49:07Seriously, so you say they're going to vegas and don't win. Okay. All right
00:49:13I think a baggage claim just to just to kill time
00:49:16It's just keep ripping the ripping the handle on that
00:49:20Do you know how many times people have?
00:49:22I've talked to somebody about this in vegas. How many times people have their bags keep going around the carousel and they finally take them off
00:49:30because people
00:49:31Have forgotten their bags
00:49:33They're just pulling. Oh, is that oh my goodness an addiction max an addictive behavior. There's no doubt about it
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00:51:57so who to you is if
00:51:59If the let's let's you can't presume health but for the sake of conversation, let's presume health
00:52:05Who is the celtics biggest threat in the eastern conference?
00:52:07And when I say biggest threat, I also want you to label that like to what degree are they even a threat?
00:52:13um, that would be
00:52:16um
00:52:17orlando magic
00:52:19Because yes, sir. I love this. I think that they're capable without paolo
00:52:25So what without paolo he's coming back he's coming back dude, he'll be back
00:52:30I just didn't know if you were looking at them right now and saying they're the biggest threat
00:52:34um
00:52:35No, I think right now looking at them. I still believe they're the biggest threat. I think that they play
00:52:41They have their well coach
00:52:43They they're the way they are going to hurt you right now. Is it going to play the interior?
00:52:48Uh, they have got the vogner brothers. Those are junkyard dogs
00:52:52And how do you slow this up itself? That's how you slow them down
00:52:57They're they're defensively very good. And I think that's you know, if you're going to try and
00:53:02With your length right and with the size of the guys like they have they just have a bunch of dudes that are like six
00:53:08eight and taller
00:53:09Like it's not like sugs is a sugs is on the shorter side
00:53:12But he's also an incredibly good defender at guarding smaller guys. I'm not saying derrick and drew are small guys
00:53:19They're big in their own right but
00:53:20when you get to the switching part, which is what
00:53:23if you look at the cavaliers the reason why a lot of people might not view the calves as a legitimate threat to boston is because
00:53:31There are two guards in the back quarter six one and six feet. Meanwhile
00:53:35Drew six. No, hold on a minute. Wait a minute. Donovan mitchell is six four, isn't he? Is he six four? Yeah
00:53:43He's good size. He's good. And uh, uh, the other kid was he was just horrible the other day
00:53:48He was what yeah, but you can pick on those two guys defensively
00:53:5224 they pick on they they pick on they they will do a job when it comes to garland
00:53:57They go at garland
00:53:58But what I like about what I like about the cavaliers and I was going off the board for you
00:54:04For you guys the cavaliers is the one team that I say if the suburbs get in the seven game series
00:54:09They're gonna have to earn it. They don't really have to earn it. They're gonna play hard. They're gonna play smart
00:54:14I don't think the cavaliers I don't think that orlando is going to beat them
00:54:18But I think orlando would put a more of a scare in you right now than any other team right now
00:54:24in the eastern
00:54:28That's fair and again their length defensively I think is what makes that that tough because you can't
00:54:33You can't attack a guy like they don't have a garland out there that you can attack all the time
00:54:37You know, a lot of those guys are are bigger are bigger like paulo
00:54:40Paulo's 21 years old and he is ginormous like the guys guy's huge
00:54:45Wagner's a bigger guy. They bring jonathan isaac off the bench. He's a bigger guy
00:54:50um, you know, they're they're just there's not a lot of you know, they call it the the
00:54:55The killer whale offense. There's not a lot of seals out there for orlando for you to pick on
00:54:59Yeah, they're hot then, you know, yeah, they're there's they're they're size and I think they're they're youth
00:55:06Uh, really just something that to me because sometimes when you you throw you just go
00:55:12I can do anything I can run through a wall
00:55:15Whereas an older team would see the celtics as more of a dangerous opponent
00:55:19Whereas a team like orlando, I I would hope that the celtics don't have to face them
00:55:25I think that they will give you a more of a scare to anybody else
00:55:30West max is fascinating
00:55:33Because you know, you've got the the lakers who are playing, you know, really well under reddick
00:55:38I I don't know if we need to are we at the point where jj reddick is is deemed a good coach
00:55:42I'll let you weigh in on that in a second, but they're 10 and 5
00:55:45Ema's rockets are 12 and 5 so took a year to figure it out. But udoka's got his team
00:55:52Uh playing real well thunder are right where we expected at 12 and 4 nuggets, you know slow start
00:55:58There have been some injuries there, but they'll figure it out. They'll get there
00:56:01Clippers, I I just I don't think it holds up, but they're 10 at 7
00:56:05But top of the conference right now those effing cockroaches
00:56:09You can't kill golden state you can't kill steph curry man, this team is not going anywhere
00:56:15they have um, he is the
00:56:18greatest shooter
00:56:19in the history of the nba
00:56:21Uh, I talked to his dad
00:56:23Dale curry and he said I said your son has destroyed the nba that I know and he said to me
00:56:30He said there's a lot of shot takers
00:56:33But not a lot of shot makers
00:56:36And he is so right the three-point shot if you go any place and you see kids out
00:56:42They are practicing all this stuff and the arm and I got a three
00:56:47dudes, can I when I sometimes at the garden I work with the
00:56:51Organizations that come in first thing these kids do is they run out beyond the three-point line
00:56:55That's your son try to make a damn two to see boy. You're gonna see how you had it right now
00:57:00Yeah, so uh, but golden state with steph curry
00:57:04um their mentality
00:57:06Get buddy hill coming in. He's played well for him. I think their
00:57:11Defense though. It can be a little suspect
00:57:13They play well against the celtics, but then they went right to the cavaliers and the cavaliers have them down by 30 something
00:57:20so i'm not
00:57:23I'm, not the believer that other people are in golden state right now when they start hitting some of these other teams
00:57:29I
00:57:31I you know
00:57:33I have a I have a basketball related question coffin to ask max
00:57:36And it's like the right place of well, and it's it has nothing to do with the celtics and how they're currently playing. It's about
00:57:43Um a former celtic assistant coach and how he's doing in charlotte
00:57:48Oh, yeah, I wanted to get your opinion on because I got
00:57:51I I have a pretty strong opinion on this
00:57:54I
00:57:55People charlotte fans freaked out that charles lee benched lamello ball
00:58:01At the end of a at the end of a tight game
00:58:04um
00:58:05After you know mellow had a he was like 3 of 13 from 3. He was at an awful shooting night
00:58:10but people like you don't bench your star player at the end of a close game and i'm like
00:58:15I'm, I think charles lee's trying to establish a culture of accountability here
00:58:19And I I I just don't understand how people aren't seeing that the only guy
00:58:25on that team
00:58:27That's had any championship success and he's done it twice with two different organizations
00:58:33Is charles lee and this gets back to the you know, carry yourself like a champion sort of thing
00:58:37We talked about steph and this is why I thought about it because again staff
00:58:41Holding everybody in that organization accountable, right?
00:58:45they're having a great season in part because of
00:58:48Kerr and the way he set everything up curry's brilliance, but also the way they carry themselves
00:58:54So look at people freaking out that
00:58:56charles lee benched lamello
00:58:58Like lamello's accomplished. I mean look mellow's accomplished more in his life than all of accomplished in my life
00:59:03But in a basketball sense, okay hasn't won anything
00:59:07I remember the playoffs
00:59:09The only guy that has the guy coaching the team. It's a great message that he sent of accountability
00:59:16especially for a young team
00:59:18I'm the head coach. How many times we've seen and I think this is in today's world anyway
00:59:24um
00:59:26You don't have any kids do you?
00:59:28Okay, and then and and you're you're running part of it. You have kids don't you three? Yeah. Okay, you have kids so
00:59:36There's a hierarchy and now she has the wife is we know where she's at, you know
00:59:41The queen protects the king and all that
00:59:43but
00:59:44as a dad
00:59:46You understand sometimes
00:59:49as my dad used to say
00:59:51I would say but I I didn't do anything
00:59:54He said well son sometimes the good got to suffer with the bad and I did I hated that line
01:00:01But I understood that later on in life that he was setting a standard of how things were gonna go
01:00:08and
01:00:09Charles lee
01:00:10Has set a standard look mellow if you're not playing well
01:00:14We're not going to have you out there
01:00:16If you're not busting your ass on the defensive end and not being held accountable, then we're not going to go anyplace
01:00:23That's the thing I say about larry bird was so good the fact that he did hold other people accountable
01:00:29And when you hold people accountable as your leader of your team
01:00:34Then you're going to start to win some games
01:00:37Now we look at you just said a minute ago you brought up philadelphia who's the leader of that team right now
01:00:43Is it joel mb?
01:00:45Or is he getting called out by maxi right now?
01:00:48that that's that's a that's a
01:00:51Absolutely mess down there in philly right now. I mean, but here i'll ask both you guys a question
01:00:58We got all these other teams in the nba right now
01:01:02Would you trade for joel mb?
01:01:05I don't depend on the team not in the celtics. I want nowhere near boston
01:01:09But you got a lot of other teams if i'm a team that is building something in the right direction
01:01:16No, I wouldn't want a guy like that coming in derailing it. But again, like I am also about about minnesota
01:01:24No, absolutely not
01:01:25But max like i'm i'm also the person that you know
01:01:28Go back to like I know what kenny atkinson's doing with cleveland right now
01:01:32Look at what he was doing what he was building with brooklyn before they traded for durant and irving and what they were
01:01:38You know, I know like delo was the face of the thing. It's it's not obviously a marquee name like the others
01:01:43But you know where they were kind of ascending and they tried to skip a whole bunch of steps
01:01:48And hope it stars were going to get them to the promised land. It didn't work
01:01:51but I didn't like those moves I thought that was stupid and obviously it you know, it
01:01:56Elevated them, but it it didn't work out in the end. Ultimately. They didn't win anything
01:02:01you know, I I
01:02:03That's if i'm a team like what brooklyn was before if i'm again, I got I got some pieces
01:02:09I got the right coach not someone who's going to get undermined. I'm i'm i'm, you know, it might take a little bit
01:02:14But i'm on a slow ascent
01:02:16You know joellen bead is one of the last guys i'm looking to acquire to come in and take take down that ship
01:02:24I think in a a secondary role
01:02:27And could a great player read could he resurrect himself in a secondary manner of going to
01:02:35Of going to a team. Well
01:02:38Jonah b brings a lot more
01:02:40He can rebound
01:02:42He can play defense. He can block shots
01:02:45Yeah, but you know again, you know the injury problems, but
01:02:49I mean think about how kawaii limit was viewed for a while people like oh my god
01:02:54Oh my god kawaii limit the greatest power now kawaii leonard is going to the hall of fame
01:03:00but in the last
01:03:03Three years
01:03:05Would you take kawaii leonard?
01:03:07No, you know, I mean can't stay on the floor
01:03:10I I gotta I i'm just thinking about this like what team if I were a team
01:03:15That was looking to bring an mb'd I would need
01:03:18excellent structure in place
01:03:21And I mean it's so funny because like I think there's only one team where he would
01:03:25Be held accountable
01:03:27By someone that's better than him and that's golden state
01:03:31Like because everybody you cut like you you you better fall in line with this team
01:03:35Like not a lot of teams could take that on because they don't have the hierarchy
01:03:40that you would need to hold them because nobody's and this is like
01:03:44one of my favorite bits that michael lombardi does is a
01:03:47Football guy that talks sixes because it drives him crazy that billy's allowed it
01:03:51Mb to get away with everything his entire career
01:03:54You would need someone with legit power
01:03:58To hold him accountable
01:04:00For all the stuff that he's gotten away with over the years and there's not too many guys that can hold an mvp candidate
01:04:08In check like that. I think steph is one of the few people in the league that could do it
01:04:12And again, I don't know him personally, but all the things that you read about steph curry as a teammate
01:04:18He's the greatest teammate of all time. Like he just it's not even
01:04:21It's sorry. It's not it's not even just
01:04:23It's a great example. It's not even just curry though. It's cur
01:04:28Yeah, you could I would I would agree with that i'd agree with that for sure you got the coach
01:04:32You got the established coach who's not going to be undermined
01:04:35You know and and you've got the star player who's not going to be undermined and and and there I say it
01:04:41How about trayvon green in the mix too, though?
01:04:44Because you know, he he's uh, you know, whatever it is
01:04:48He's gonna hold you also accountable. Look what he did with kevin the ramp. He ran kevin
01:04:54I mean, but and kevin the grant was a two times finals mvp. Yeah on that particular team
01:05:02So yeah, I think that yeah, I think that you really have to have
01:05:06That real real structure as a coach
01:05:10And as an organization
01:05:14How about how about this how about joel mb to the houston rockets on the i would love it
01:05:22I would love emailing him. Oh my goodness. Let me let me play my let me play my jeopardy game here
01:05:29who is
01:05:30Embiid who is I do like this who we're right now is who's going to be the coach?
01:05:35I would take that guy right there. I go email doker. Who is email doker?
01:05:40That would be one of those things. I think that will work because email doker is gonna hold him responsible
01:05:48Because like like, you know, I don't see doc rivers didn't do it. No
01:05:53But he made he made it look like he ready to go to war like he ready to fight like you you want to get out of line
01:06:00Dude, let's go in the back room. Let's let's let's swing on each other. No more back rooms for ema
01:06:05Yeah
01:06:08Wow, i'm trying to think I mean there i'm
01:06:11It wouldn't be a good did you really wait a minute? Did you really go there? Heck? Yeah, I did. I'm not saying
01:06:17I gotta call nick joseph the president
01:06:20We gotta put you on suspension right now. Wow. He called me up and shaked my hand
01:06:27Give me a raise probably may and his impure actions there
01:06:33The fit i'm not saying the fit would make sense but another example in terms of you know
01:06:38Clear player in front and a coach who could handle it denver. That would be another one
01:06:43Yeah, but but yeah, you can't have those two playing the same. I'm not saying the fit makes but I see your point. Yeah
01:06:50Michael malone. Yes. Yeah
01:06:52Yeah. Yeah, I think I think in this league right now
01:06:56That's a good I think in this league right now, there's only a handful
01:07:00of coaches that have
01:07:03That in them that you feel like okay, they're ready to go to war and ema would be
01:07:09Michael malone would be one of them. Yeah cur because of his pedigree and what he's done
01:07:15Uh, you remember pet he was the same one that did told joel mb then the olympics in a particular game
01:07:21You're not gonna play
01:07:22Yeah, joel mb didn't you didn't see him pissed off and then like okay, let's let's do what we do
01:07:27So I just think this joel mb thing is fascinating
01:07:31Uh for some teams out there that might want to take a chance
01:07:37Sean grandy asked me my broadcast partner. He said do you think that joel mb could win the championship? I said not in philly
01:07:45but on another team
01:07:47You know whether now how about this one I give you one other one and you guys gonna go heck yeah, heck yeah
01:07:54how about
01:07:56Miami
01:07:57I was thinking this I I my question is more about the city of miami's effect on joel mb
01:08:02Not the actual team itself. I just who's gonna keep him in line is pat
01:08:07Riley's running a tight ship
01:08:09I don't know. How tight is ship is riley running at this point?
01:08:12Look at butler is it was is jimmy still around because of because jimmy and and beat already have history. Yeah
01:08:18Yeah, so I I think that that would be one of those things. Okay, because right now
01:08:24Believe it or not guys you might be able to steal him from philadelphia
01:08:28For you know a bag of bones
01:08:30So and if you're miami, you got these pieces down there
01:08:34You put joel mb in the situation where he's playing with jimmy
01:08:38In that miami structure and what do what do we what do they always say the miami culture
01:08:45The culture of miami culture
01:08:48The heat culture so you put him in that heat culture
01:08:53Hmm, I I would I would I I eric spolster. Hmm. I would I think that would be a great fit for him right now
01:09:02Yeah, I don't scare you though. If you're the celtics
01:09:04Hmm
01:09:07No, no still that scared me but until mb gets the best of the celtics
01:09:12You put mb in any situation other than golden state. Anyway, and mb is not going to scare me. Okay. All right. Thank you
01:09:20I give you that
01:09:22I've never sweated mb in my life. So that's just a way I mean
01:09:26That's just the way it goes tatum and brown have owned him his entire career
01:09:31I'm not a big deal. I've loved it. We'll wrap it there. We've kept max long enough. Although it's always fun
01:09:36We'd talk for hours. I mean we haven't talked for over an hour
01:09:39We've got hours and hours with the man with now four rings
01:09:43including his latest championship ring coming off of
01:09:46a birthday
01:09:4870 is on the cusp. It's right around the corner
01:09:53You know what makes that 70 real good
01:09:56next year at this time I will be
01:10:00I will be uh in line for my social security
01:10:04well earned well earned the
01:10:07Well earned baby. So yeah, you get the max that you can get at 70. I'm waiting to contribute in forever
01:10:14I see people checking out at 69 and 60. I've been i've waited for this thing
01:10:19So, you know look cedric max was living beyond 10 years after the 70 thing after he hits it
01:10:26He's gonna go back to trial and feel real good
01:10:28Yeah
01:10:29Living infamy. We love this man cedric maxwell again
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01:10:38Of course the cedric maxwell show and uh max we we love having you on man. We'll do it again. We'll bug you again soon
01:10:44Man, you're great being on with you guys
01:10:47My last thing I have to show you right now is I got I got this this and it was signed right now by you
01:10:54clued
01:10:55Oh, no way
01:10:58This for me until I like someone had put something on social media, you know, I I had no idea
01:11:05He was an assistant coach on the blues staff. Yeah. Yeah
01:11:08until that was
01:11:11The guys and insecurity down them say what is clued coming back and they said he'll be back. Uh,
01:11:17Next week with the blues and I was like and I was like, yeah
01:11:20Yeah, yeah, we were out of town and the first thing they did was they came up they give me this book that he assigned
01:11:26So here's another thing that so I got my ring and I got my clued
01:11:31Clued puck with me right now. So i'm good. Yeah, max is a champ. He's got a puck from another champ last championship
01:11:38That the bruins did win and they're like six coaches later or whatever. It's not that
01:11:44All right, let's uh, at least one team from the garden is representing right now for evan I am adam
01:11:50Thanks for hanging out here with us and uh celtics 13 and three and just uh for people marking their calendars
01:11:57Sunday 3 30 game at home against the timberwolves
01:12:02Clippers at home on uh, monday 7 30 and then uh, nice nice little thanksgiving break
01:12:08Not back at it until friday night in chicago first of a uh, little two-game trip
01:12:14So man, but you know what put it in there that the chicago game is important
01:12:19Because the celtics have to win their game. Yeah, they're going to advance gotta get that banner man
01:12:26Because you know if they get the banner i'm gonna make sure you have a hand and you know
01:12:31At least pulling up to the route max. You leave me a ticket. I'll be there buddy. Absolutely, buddy. Happy holidays. All right
01:12:39Thanks, everybody. We'll see you
01:12:48You