The Jeremy Kyle Show (26 March 2018)

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The Jeremy Kyle Show (26 March 2018)
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00:00You're watching On Demand. Please check the closing time before trying to vote or enter any competition or other interactivity in this programme, as it may not count and you may still be charged.
00:10On today's show...
00:12You are one stinking rotten little liar!
00:16Aye, yeah...
00:17He's a stinking rotten little liar!
00:23I'm here every day of my life!
00:25You can't lie!
00:27He has the right to be buried next to his blood mother, right or wrong?
00:32No.
00:33Do you know who that is?
00:34Yes, I know who that is.
00:35That's my mother.
00:36Question marked.
00:37Are you embarrassed by your potential son?
00:40Yes.
00:43We're going to do...
00:44You're a joke, man.
00:45No, no, no, no.
00:46I am a joke.
00:49I haven't seen you two years. Get a hold of me.
00:52Could you not see me? How am I going to get on?
00:56You think I want that? You actually think I want that?
00:59You've had it before. You jumped on it quick enough.
01:04Why are you swearing?
01:05Because I really opiate my daughter's dad, mate.
01:07So do we!
01:08It's better than that.
01:09So do we!
01:10The DNA test results show that Ryan...
01:26CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:34Hello, my friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:37My first guest today, Willie Jr. I love that, Willie Jr.
01:40He's here today for one almighty showdown with Marianne,
01:43a woman he describes as the stepmum from hell.
01:45Not only that, Willie Jr. also says his father, Willie Sr...
01:48Big Willie. Big Willie, small Willie.
01:50..has never been there for him and lied to him for 14 years
01:53about who his mother is.
01:54His mother has chosen stepmum Marianne over him
01:56and now questions, check this, because of what he's heard,
01:59whether Big Willie is indeed his father.
02:02I have to say about this, kid, he's very nervous,
02:04but when you hear what this guy has gone through,
02:06when you've heard the story,
02:08you will be just amazed and you will feel sorry for him.
02:11It's a big day, he's very nervous.
02:13Willie Jr. is on the Jeremy Crow showdown.
02:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:17CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:22Sit down. God, I have sympathy for you.
02:24Now, shut up, woman!
02:27Um, bless your heart for coming on.
02:29Tell these people clearly and concisely,
02:32growing up, what you were told.
02:34Tell us the story, cos it's awful. Shut up, woman!
02:37Go on. Well, I was 14 years old and, obviously,
02:40my dad helped me when I was drunk.
02:42When he was drunk, my real mother was dead.
02:46What, at 14, you were told about your mother?
02:49She wasn't around?
02:51My dad came back from work and he says,
02:54your real mother's dead.
02:57Be quiet, you. Shut up, now.
03:00You're a witch.
03:05What?
03:07What?
03:09She was going out with my father.
03:12Before you look at it! Shut up!
03:14Quiet!
03:16Your mother's on fire!
03:20APPLAUSE
03:26What were you told from nought to 14 about your real mother?
03:29She just wasn't on the scene. You weren't told anything.
03:32What did your dad say before she starts?
03:34Well, I'll get brought up with another woman.
03:36Obviously, my dad married again.
03:38You never saw your mum? I never saw my mum.
03:40And then at 14, he comes home drunk and says,
03:43by the way, your mother's dead.
03:45No, he says, that's not your real mother,
03:47your real mother's dead, I'm going to take you to a grave.
03:52I think that was Scottish for, you're talking poo.
03:56No, I don't want to see Magnus Magnusson and his girlfriend,
03:59go away.
04:01Shut up, porcupine!
04:06Shut up until I tell you to come on!
04:08APPLAUSE
04:13Then you sort of went away.
04:16This is the latest woman.
04:18How long's Marianne been in Big Willie's life?
04:21For about 15 years.
04:23You say she's a witch. Aye, she's a witch.
04:25She's never... She doesn't want me in the family.
04:28She's always wanted my favour.
04:30She's picked your father over you.
04:32She's never liked me from the start.
04:35You feel ostrous. Shut up!
04:37Pushed out, black sheep, shut up!
04:40I don't know what that is.
04:43What did he say? I don't need to shut up for him.
04:52I don't know whether you understand this with the stupid look on your face,
04:55shut up until I ask you to speak.
04:57Just because she controls you, I'm telling you,
04:59sit down and be quiet now.
05:07Big Willie's not so big now, is he, eh?
05:13I love you, wee Willie.
05:15I love you too, son.
05:17Son? How old are you? 32.
05:19If you're just tuning in, this is wee Willie.
05:21Horrible upbringing by your father, he picked her,
05:23the new stepmother, she's the witch,
05:25banned from the wedding, pushed out of the family,
05:27made my life a misery.
05:29DNA today, out of wishful thinking.
05:32You just don't want him to be your father. No.
05:34He's never been a father, Robert.
05:36He's been a better father than he'll ever be.
05:38This is the... Shut up!
05:40This is the worst thing you'll hear on a serious note.
05:42This is the most serious thing.
05:44This boy is not in the best of health, right?
05:46All this boy wants...
05:48Tell them about what you'd like to find out about your mother's grave.
05:51I just want the truth, know what I mean?
05:53He wants to know where his mother's grave is,
05:55the deeds to the grave, because...
05:57And my mother left me £45,000,
06:00and she left me money, she left me joy,
06:02and my dad's keeping it back from me.
06:04He's kept the money, and when he dies, in many years to come,
06:07he wants to be buried next to his mum and his father.
06:09Won't let him have the deeds to the grave,
06:11which you need to buy a plot,
06:13and also they won't let him have her money.
06:15You lot and I absolutely love Wee Willie, right?
06:18CHEERING
06:26So Marianne's the stepmother?
06:28No, she's not my stepmother.
06:30She's not going to like this walkout.
06:32Marianne's on The Jeremy Carl Show.
06:38CHEERING
06:41You are one stinking, rotten little liar!
06:44Aye, you...
06:50What did you just call him?
06:52A stinking, rotten little liar.
06:54You've taken his money and you won't tell him where his mother's buried.
06:57Why wouldn't you let him know?
06:59There are no £45,000 buried for him.
07:01Why won't you tell him where his mother's buried and give him the deeds?
07:04I don't know where his mother's buried.
07:06You control the husband, don't you?
07:08I don't control the husband.
07:10This is his son!
07:12He's the man!
07:14Let's get back to the number 69.
07:19Let's get back to the 201 then.
07:21It was the 201.
07:23Ah, well, we'll just say it's the 201 then, right?
07:25Who says it was the 69? Go for the 201, OK?
07:29How many people, how many bus drivers did you have sex with?
07:32I've not had sex with any bus driver.
07:34You've never had sex with a bus driver?
07:36No, I've not had any sex with a bus driver.
07:38She says you sleep with bus drivers all the time.
07:40I don't sleep with bus drivers all the time.
07:42She doesn't sleep with bus drivers.
07:44I sleep with his father.
07:46Yeah, but have you ever cheated?
07:48What, on the bus?
07:50Have you ever cheated on his father?
07:52Yes.
07:54No.
07:56You have, haven't you?
07:58No.
08:00You, you, it's written all over your face.
08:03Now, didn't you cheat on your dad two weeks before his wedding?
08:05Yes, you did.
08:06No, I didn't.
08:07Who with?
08:08I didn't cheat on his wedding.
08:09201 or 69?
08:11I'll go for the 202, 226 then, OK?
08:13226?
08:14I'll go for that then.
08:15What's your problem with this boy?
08:17He's been ostracised all his life and I feel sorry for him.
08:20He's a stinking rotten little liar.
08:22He's his son, what's he lied about?
08:24Well, why does he want a DNA test to prove that's his father then?
08:27Well, maybe he hopes he's not,
08:29cos he's treated him so damn badly.
08:31Why is that?
08:32Why?
08:33Cos he's never liked me from the start.
08:35Right, I'm going to go to a break
08:37and then I'm going to bring out your potential dad, Big Willie.
08:40Is that true?
08:41What do you mean, potential dad?
08:42Is his f***ing father?
08:43Well, then he should...
08:45Then, for your information, he should have done more, shouldn't he,
08:48and been a better dad back after this.
08:50Money!
08:51What?
08:52Where are you?
08:53Where are you?
08:54I've got all my money.
08:55Did you take your money?
08:56I don't know what he's saying.
09:02He has a right to be buried next to his blood mother, right or wrong?
09:06No.
09:19Oi, can you do that?
09:23Who are you?
09:26Who are you?
09:29Get off!
09:31Money!
09:32What?
09:33Where are you?
09:34I've got all my money.
09:35Where are you?
09:36I've got all my money.
09:37Did you take your money?
09:38I don't know what he's saying.
09:40You've got problems with your money.
09:43Try and take a look at your own life.
09:46Look at yourself.
09:47Who are you?
09:48I'm her Annie.
09:49Her auntie?
09:50No, she's my auntie.
09:52LAUGHTER
10:00Who's that?
10:01That's my niece.
10:02Why's she got it in for Wee Willie?
10:04Because she knows the flippin' truth about Wee Willie
10:07the same as the rest of us does.
10:09What is the truth about Wee Willie?
10:11What's he done wrong?
10:12He's a little liar.
10:14Right, let's get Big Willie on the Jeremy Calf Show.
10:16He's coming that way, potential dad.
10:22CHEERING
10:30You're tearing life.
10:31You were six weeks old when you lost your mum, right?
10:34I brought you up when you were five years old.
10:36I met you then.
10:38I adopted you at five years old, six years old.
10:41That's how it went.
10:42Where's my money?
10:43You never got no money in them days.
10:45I want my money.
10:46I want my money.
10:47I want my money.
10:48I want my money.
10:49Why wouldn't you tell him where his mother's buried,
10:51you horrible human being?
10:52They can bury him next to her.
10:54Why not? Why not?
10:55Tell me.
10:56Go on, tell me.
10:57Why won't you give him the deeds to his mother's grave?
10:59Well, my name's Jeremy.
11:01I'm not called Jeremy, I'm not her auntie.
11:04I'm called Jeremy.
11:05He has the right to be buried next to his blood mother,
11:07right or wrong?
11:08No.
11:09Why not?
11:10I'm out of...
11:11Hold on a minute.
11:12Not Wee Willie.
11:13Go away instantly.
11:16What did you say?
11:17You wouldn't get him.
11:18You won't give him.
11:19Let's slow this down.
11:20He won't get my damn leaven.
11:22You won't shut up.
11:24Oh, you actually told her to be quiet.
11:26Are you all right?
11:27Because there's a big thing there.
11:28No, I'm not doing that.
11:29I'm not doing that.
11:30You will not allow your son the deeds
11:33to where his real blood mother is buried,
11:36despite the fact since then you've had two wives
11:38and you seemingly are happy.
11:39Shut up!
11:41Oi!
11:42Stuckman furor, Marianne.
11:43Be quiet.
11:44Why not?
11:45I won't explain to you.
11:47Go on, then.
11:48Don't point at me, then.
11:50He's not a blackboard.
11:51I'm not a blackboard.
11:52You what?
11:53I'm not a blackboard.
11:54Sit down.
11:55I'm going to tell you what happened.
11:56Sit down.
11:57Sit down.
11:58Leave him alone and sit down.
12:00You won't explain to me, no?
12:01I do, but I want him to sit down.
12:03Why would you not give your kid,
12:05who lost his mother,
12:07who's had two other women in his life
12:09for quite a while,
12:10why would you not give him the information
12:13he requires to one day be buried
12:16next to his blood mother?
12:17Mate, I'll tell you why.
12:18He went to...
12:19to get information.
12:20Yes?
12:21They said Margaret's buried in the Lindt crematorium,
12:24which I know where it is as well.
12:26He went up there one time with his girlfriend Michelle
12:29and said he couldn't find the grave.
12:32Mate, can I just ask you the question again?
12:35Why would you not give what information you have
12:39to your blood son
12:41so that one day he can be laid to rest
12:43next to his mother?
12:44Stop fanning around with the way you...
12:46I'm not fanning around.
12:47Then why did you say,
12:48when you came out,
12:49over my dead body?
12:50Why?
12:51Cos you wouldn't get him.
12:52Why?
12:53Cos you wouldn't get him.
12:54Why?
12:55Cos you wouldn't get him.
12:58That doesn't make sense.
12:59It doesn't make sense.
13:00Why? Cos you're just what?
13:01Cos she's told you...
13:02No.
13:03Why, then?
13:04No, she told me nothing.
13:05Then why?
13:06Cos you wouldn't get him,
13:07as long as I'm...
13:08If that ain't answering me,
13:09I'll go there myself,
13:10not him.
13:11Not him.
13:12Why do you want to go with my mother?
13:13I was his wife for ten years.
13:14Who's Robert?
13:15Eh, that's my pal.
13:17Robert the pal's on the Jeremy Carl show.
13:23You need to grow up.
13:24You're a parent.
13:25You need to be a father to him.
13:27You need to grow yourself a parent.
13:29The boy, the answer to me...
13:33He doesn't know,
13:34when his mother died,
13:35and he gave her birth,
13:36you put a woman over your own son.
13:40A woman of flesh and blood.
13:42No, I've not.
13:43Yes, you have.
13:44He'll never know anything about his mother.
13:47The only person who can tell him is you.
13:49He's made a fool of himself.
13:51I am not called Jerry.
13:55Robert, could you do me a favour?
13:57What I told you,
13:58sit down but speak slowly.
13:59No problem.
14:00No, no, don't you listen to me.
14:02Explain to me,
14:03in words of one syllable,
14:05right?
14:06You won't answer it,
14:07but I will keep going.
14:08What reason do you have,
14:10not, I don't have to,
14:11I don't want to,
14:12what reason do you pin on the fact
14:15that you as his father,
14:16whatever is about the money,
14:18whatever he's done wrong,
14:19why will you not give him the information
14:22about the deeds to where his mother's buried?
14:25Explain.
14:26Forget even speaking.
14:27Why?
14:28I wasn't going to.
14:29Shut up.
14:30Why?
14:31He won't get me, Nate.
14:33Okay?
14:34Why?
14:35Because he's causing a lot of problems for me.
14:38You're a horrible, horrible, horrible man,
14:40do you know that?
14:41And I'll tell you something else as well,
14:43be quiet.
14:44Do you know why you won't?
14:45You've gone from woman to woman,
14:47this kid,
14:48this kid,
14:49this kid has been left on his own,
14:51his father has not been,
14:52no, no, you listen to me,
14:54because these are the things
14:55that do my head in about this show, right?
14:57I spend my life just, you know,
14:59arguing for blokes to have the right
15:01to see their kids,
15:02and then you come out here.
15:04This is your kid.
15:05Maybe the mother and you weren't great,
15:08maybe she's dead,
15:09maybe you're on to wife number three,
15:11but you can't give me one reason
15:13why you're denying this to him
15:15other than your bitter, twisted,
15:17horrible attitude is the reason,
15:19and that ain't fair on that kid,
15:21and do you know something?
15:22He's better off without you
15:23because you're rubbish, Nate.
15:25Rubbish.
15:27All he wants,
15:29all he wants,
15:30all he wants is to be buried near his mother,
15:32and look at you,
15:33you won't allow that.
15:34Why is that?
15:35No reason.
15:36Go on, tell me, go on.
15:37Go on, surprise me, Big Willie.
15:38Why?
15:39Big Willie.
15:40Why?
15:41Anybody ever taken you, I'll know.
15:43Why won't you tell him, Big Willie?
15:46I'll just tell you,
15:47he knows where his mum's grave is.
15:49He knows where his mum's grave is.
15:51Why won't you give him the deeds?
15:53He won't get the deeds.
15:54They're in my name,
15:55they're in my name, not his name.
15:56Then go to court,
15:57get the legal,
15:58and give them to him.
15:59Well, I've been your lawyer.
16:01I'll tell you something.
16:02I'll tell you something.
16:03OK, here's the thing.
16:04Well, I'll do it then.
16:05Here's one thing that's interesting, right?
16:07You said when you came out,
16:08you didn't want him buried next to her.
16:10Nate?
16:11You're going to be buried next to her.
16:12He's not going to be buried next to her.
16:13Well, that's what he said.
16:14No, that's what he said.
16:15That's what I'm going to be doing.
16:17Oh, there we go.
16:18Look, there we go.
16:19Quick, quick.
16:20But here's the thing.
16:21You know the woman you were in love with,
16:22you had the baby with?
16:23Yes.
16:24Yeah?
16:25Yes.
16:26That she obviously hates,
16:27but actually he still wants to lie down next to her
16:28because she's fantastic.
16:29Oh!
16:30Oh!
16:31But here's the best thing.
16:32Did you hate her?
16:33Who?
16:34Hate who?
16:35His mother.
16:36No.
16:37Did it break your heart when she died?
16:38Yes, it did.
16:39Well, I wonder what the hell she'd be thinking of you
16:41right now, the way that you're playing.
16:43APPLAUSE
16:47His real mum right now is looking at this and thinking,
16:50the least you can do is sort that deeds thing out.
16:52Let him have the deeds.
16:53Come on.
16:54No.
16:55What are you hiding?
16:56Not hiding nothing.
16:57Not hiding nothing?
16:58Who's the gobby youngster?
16:59What's she called?
17:00That's my niece, Andrea.
17:01Andrea's on the Jeremy Cowell show.
17:03APPLAUSE
17:11You need a right good hard look in the mirror, by the way.
17:14What about yourself?
17:15How about myself?
17:16I've no doubt.
17:17I've no doubt.
17:18I've no doubt.
17:19I've no doubt.
17:20I've no doubt.
17:21I've no doubt.
17:22I've no doubt.
17:23I've no doubt.
17:24I've no doubt.
17:25I've no doubt.
17:26She talks to me.
17:27Are you out of your mind?
17:28You don't want that credit.
17:29You have to buy your Christmas gift.
17:30Is she going on the Jeremy Cowell show?
17:32She's not on the show!
17:33She's not on the show!
17:34You know what?
17:35Yeah, kind of.
17:36Wait.
17:37I'll be glad.
17:38Nobody likes you.
17:39I don't know.
17:40She's not on the show!
17:41Do you know that?
17:42Do you know about that?
17:43That was Tommy.
17:44He's not on the show.
17:45Nobody likes you.
17:46He is going off.
17:47He's on the show.
17:48Shall I tell you something?
17:49Shall I tell you something?
17:50I like him very much.
17:51So sit down and be quiet.
17:52APPLAUSE
17:53I'll give you a chance. I'll give you a chance, because this doesn't say anything. Tell me, hear me out. How old are you? Shut up.
18:07I'm 33. What do you think, not with these two, you. What has he done that causes this reaction? Look at me, talk to me calmly.
18:18Right. Right, okay. Do you think he's had a particularly bad upbringing?
18:25Personally, I don't know. If you were in his... Alright, but no, but that's... I'm talking to you nicely now, right?
18:32So, if you were brought up by a woman who you thought was your mother, then you discover it's not, then you get told in a drunken moment that your mother's dead, then another stepmother, no disrespect to you, comes in...
18:43I'm not talking to you. You said there was a stepmother, I'm only connecting that I am not her stepmother.
18:48Whatever. Do you think that you might, perhaps in your quest for attention or the injustice of your position, you might spin a few yarns, speak a bit of BS, hear me, I'm not making excuses.
19:00Possibly. But don't you think, because you're alright, mate, you're alright, look at me, I know you're alright. Out of spite, he won't let him have these Ds to the grave.
19:07No, it's the problems and the lies, right? No, but it's all he wants is his mother's grave details. Why? Because he wants to be buried next to her!
19:15There would be nobody stopping him from getting buried. But why won't he give them... But he doesn't have to... Those are Billy's deeds, right?
19:21But Billy could do the right thing. That's totally up to Billy. He could do the right thing. You might find your son's behaviour changed if he is your son. Why are we doing a DNA, by the way?
19:30Well, someone's got doubts about whose mother it is. Oh, there we go, she's off again, what? I'll tell you why he's going to do this.
19:36Why do you always say I'll tell you why instead of just Dan Will telling me why? Why don't you just get on with it? Because I've got to finish. Get on with it!
19:41Right, I've all gone with it. Now! OK. He told his... He was told by certain people I wasn't his father. That's why I'm doing the test.
19:53I bet he wishes you weren't, because you haven't been much of a dad, have you? Who's Charlene? Who's Charlene? Charlene's my wife.
20:01Good on you, Robbie. Charlene's on the Jeremy Carl show.
20:04That's his mother. You don't talk to him that way because you know nothing. You're listening to her, all right?
20:18So I'm not telling you whatever lies you want to believe him. You can be that way.
20:25You're believing everything she's said and you're going with what I've said. I put on the show the other day there.
20:30And it's not going to get me any less. I'm just trying to prove a point, is that right? I'm going with what I've said.
20:35No, you're going to be a two-faced... I'm off this yet, but no. I'm going to be a... I'll be the one you want, I'm afraid.
20:41So you're going to be a two-faced... And you're going to be my father and you don't want to be a dad to him? He's not my family at all.
20:48Sit down, sit down. Let's spin it round, then. Let's spin it round for you, OK?
20:53Let's assume that you think that you've had a hard time from him and maybe...
20:59I don't think it. I'm absolutely fucking sure of that.
21:02Right. Then tell me, how long have you been in his life?
21:06Fifteen years, come September.
21:08Nobody else, Bea. You've had your say. Tell me why he's been so unfair to you. What has he done?
21:12He just wants his daddy all to himself. If he doesn't get his own way, he throws out the dummy.
21:18Marianne, hear me out, right. Don't you think he's just a kid crying out for attention?
21:22He's been crying out for attention, I think, for the day. He was spat out.
21:25But what has he done so wrong?
21:27Spat out? You're a sick in the heap. Spat out, he was born. The two of them loved each other and had them.
21:32She's not a mother. She'll never know how it feels to have had a child in her home.
21:36Robert, he's given us a lot of hassle...
21:38What hassle is it?
21:44I want to shush you. You've had your say. You and your husband are the same.
21:50You sell light. Give me some fact. What has he done that you so hate him for? Give me some fact.
21:56Because if he doesn't get his own way...
21:58No, no, no. That's just petulant child spitting the dummy out for attention.
22:04What does he do that you have such a bad opinion about?
22:07What has he stolen from you? Broken the law? Bashed you up? Destroyed your house? What's he done?
22:12Before you get out of him is lies.
22:14You know what you said? You said he wants his dad all of the time.
22:17Is that such a damn crime when your mother's died?
22:19I'm not far from forgetting his father. I'm not far from forgetting his father.
22:23Yes, you are. He doesn't say anything. He stood up and he said sit down with me.
22:31I saw it. Are you jealous of what they had?
22:34No.
22:35Are you sure?
22:36And I'm not having a go at you, but whether you chose to have kids or sadly weren't able to,
22:40maybe you don't like the fact that he's got a child.
22:42I don't give a monkey how many kids he would have had.
22:45Then why don't you let him get on with his...
22:47And more importantly, if you're such a decent person, I'm sure you are,
22:50why don't you tell your husband he should get on with his estranged son?
22:53Isn't that what you're supposed to do if you're a fair-minded individual?
22:56I have heard her saying that.
22:58Well, it obviously hasn't damn well worked. You're on the Jeremy Carr Show.
23:01He'll have a problem need to have got, right, for whatever reason, right?
23:04I've seen and I've witnessed it and I've even spoke to...
23:07Willie, Willie, let me ask, let me try one more time.
23:10You said, and I'm not being disrespectful to you, Marianne, at all.
23:13Put that picture up for me.
23:16Do you know who that is?
23:18Yes, I know who that is.
23:19That's my mother.
23:22Right, she's your mother, right?
23:24He was six. You're doing it again.
23:26Marianne, you've had your say with the greatest respect.
23:28You can be as painful as you want.
23:30You loved that woman, did you?
23:31Yes.
23:32That's what you're doing right now, the way you're treating your son.
23:34It works both ways, but...
23:37Would she not want her baby next to her?
23:40That's all I'm asking you.
23:41Don't see him, don't talk to him.
23:43Be ostracised, be happy with Marianne.
23:45If he's being disrespectful, I support you.
23:46But you know what?
23:47The very least, you should leave here today.
23:49It's almost like, you know, if you'd come out here and you'd said,
23:52he's done this, he's done that,
23:53it's almost like you're scoring points and you're trying to punish him.
23:56That's why you won't give him these deeds.
23:58Give me that DNA result, please.
24:00So why did he go for a DNA test?
24:02I've got no idea, babe,
24:03because I think a lot of him is just lashing out to get a reaction.
24:06Why did he go for a DNA test?
24:09Cos he wants to use that in his life.
24:11If that doesn't take notice, he'll never have...
24:13And you know for a fact you cannot sit there and say,
24:16has that taken any damage?
24:17And we have to throw this...
24:18You cannot sit there and... Be honest.
24:20Are you embarrassed, babe?
24:21Shush, shush, shush, everybody...
24:22Oi!
24:23Hello, everybody, be quiet. Shush.
24:25Are you embarrassed by your potential son?
24:27Yes.
24:28Oh!
24:30What are you going to do to me now?
24:32Well, it's...
24:34Willie?
24:35You see, that's your joke, man.
24:37No, no, no, no.
24:38That's your joke.
24:39That's your joke!
24:42How can you sit there and say,
24:44did that father tell him nothing?
24:46You're lying, aren't you?
24:47You should be saying that to him!
24:49Excuse me, I've never done this.
24:51He's done it in respect of everybody, not me.
24:53Right, Willie, look at me. Do you trust me?
24:56Do you trust me? Do you trust me?
25:00He is your biological father.
25:02Right, I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
25:04I'm going to do this very differently.
25:05I'm going to go to a break.
25:06When I come back from the break,
25:07you and you are on that stage.
25:09And I'm going to tell you something in the audience,
25:11right at the side.
25:12When you four go off, if I hear anything,
25:14I'm talking to everybody,
25:15I don't want to hear from you or you or you or you.
25:18We're back after the break.
25:19Don't go anywhere. Right back.
25:21It's gone on so long, my daughter needs to learn.
25:23Is he the father, do you think?
25:25It's a high possibility, yeah.
25:27Did you find out she cheated before you left?
25:30Yeah, I did.
25:31No, because I never cheated on him.
25:33Willie, you locked that door up for two years.
25:35Oh, my God, you've done nothing, have you?
25:41Have you been left holding the baby
25:43and you want to confront your ex?
25:45Maybe you're raising someone else's child.
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26:14Welcome back.
26:15Wee Willie.
26:16Big Willie.
26:18He's your dad.
26:20He's your son.
26:22Can I just take you back, how old are you?
26:2532.
26:26He'll be 33 soon.
26:28I'll take you back 32 years when you were with his mother.
26:31I understand and I want you to understand what I'm going to say.
26:34Can I get up? Please.
26:35Let's not argue, just leave it to me.
26:38You know when you were with his mum, you were young, you were in love,
26:41you had this baby, did you ever foresee this? No.
26:43No, I didn't.
26:44You didn't know that she was going to die?
26:46But I just...
26:48It probably won't work, but I just want to appeal to you as a man, right?
26:52Right.
26:53You said before the break he's an embarrassment,
26:55he's made mistakes, he's done things, so have you.
26:58Everybody learns by mistakes.
27:00Right.
27:01What he's never had, in my humble opinion,
27:04is a role model, is a consistent relationship with a blood relative.
27:09In his mind, he lost his mother and then he lost you again.
27:14I think you are wrong, by the way, to blame Marianne.
27:17I think that any woman that came into your father's life,
27:20in your mind as you grew up and you knew your story,
27:23was going to get your anger, right?
27:26This is about you two.
27:28It's your boy.
27:30Now, somewhere, hear me out, and you can tell me to get lost.
27:34Somewhere in here, unless you put this right,
27:38whatever your wider family know, whatever he might say or do,
27:43you will regret this on your deathbed.
27:45I don't expect you to leave here linking arms,
27:48thinking the whole world's a great place.
27:51But really, as a father, really as a man, really as a human being,
27:55legally, with our help to give him those deeds,
27:58means an awful lot to him.
28:00And in terms of where it would put you as a father, morally...
28:06..you look at the moment when I ask you it like
28:09you're just keeping it from him out of spite.
28:11And I actually believe you're better than that.
28:13Talk to him.
28:14Can I say something to you? Right?
28:16If he stops his carry-on...
28:18I was told... Let me speak.
28:21If he stops his carry-on, otherwise,
28:24I'll try my best to be a father to him.
28:27Right, and what... If he doesn't...
28:29Take it nicely. If he doesn't...
28:31Can we do this? Can we help?
28:33Yes, you can help. I really admire what you've said.
28:36Can we work on the deeds thing, please?
28:38Right, but what else, Gerry, right?
28:42Right? Jeremy, sorry. Right?
28:45What else, right?
28:47He didn't know his mum, right?
28:50I was there. I'd had all the pain for five years.
28:53Did you ever look your son in the eyes and say,
28:55I loved you, Mum, and I missed her?
28:57I told him that a few times. How do you think it feels for him?
29:00How do you think I feel now? I've still got photographs in the house.
29:03I've asked you for photos and you've never given them.
29:07I know why you won't do that.
29:09She's still, doesn't she? Yes.
29:11She was the love of your life, wasn't she?
29:13Yes, for ten years. But here's the thing.
29:15He didn't have that. All I'm asking...
29:17And he's right, OK?
29:19There are certain things that... This is where you have to help me out.
29:22There are things you've done and things you've said...
29:25I've not done anything. That's the sad part.
29:27There are behaviours that you've done to get attention that you probably...
29:31I've never had attention.
29:33Willie, I need you to help me on this, cos I'm pushing as far as I can.
29:37You've made mistakes with them, haven't you? Come on.
29:39I've never made any mistakes. I keep myself to myself.
29:42In terms of your behaviour, at times you could have behaved better,
29:46is all I'm asking you. Aye.
29:48Right, that's it. So that's a meeting. Now... Yes.
29:51We, it's what we do. It's a big journey, raw.
29:55We will work with you. All I'm saying to you is,
29:58her, this is between you two and her,
30:01she would have wanted us to at least try.
30:03When you try, with our help in the rooms and the work,
30:07you have to listen, you have to not point-score,
30:11you have to meet in the middle.
30:13I admire what you said and I want the same from you.
30:16Can I ask you something? Why does his wife always phone the police on me?
30:19You're doing it, you're doing it. You see, now, here we go,
30:21and this is what I'm going to say and I'm going to send you to Graham.
30:24Do you know why? Right now, let's forget Marianne, let's forget Robert,
30:27let's forget Robert's wife, whose name I've forgotten,
30:30but she was very loud, that one.
30:32Let's forget her. This is about you two.
30:34When you go into that room, if you go,
30:36your wife's this, your mate's this, your husband...
30:39You two. And what she would have wanted.
30:42And I think she would have wanted you two to talk,
30:45to try and find some common ground, to sort out the deeds,
30:48and that's the point. Yes or no? Yes.
30:50Shake my hand. Yes or no? Yes.
30:52Shake each other's hand now.
30:55Go that way. We'll sort it out.
30:57APPLAUSE
31:00Where were you? Where were you, Dad?
31:08Good luck to Ben Ryan. My next guest today, Georgia,
31:10is here for all-important DNA results from her two-year-old daughter, Faith.
31:13She says that ex-partner, Ryan,
31:15walked out on her four weeks into the relationship
31:17and laughed in her face when she told him she was pregnant.
31:20She says, for the past two years, she has literally begged Ryan for a DNA,
31:23and he's here today to finally get the answers she says, quite rightly,
31:26her daughter deserves.
31:27Georgia, he's on The Jeremy Carr Show. That way.
31:29APPLAUSE
31:36You look quite determined. I am, yeah.
31:3922-year-old Georgia, you and Ryan, you were together,
31:42it was a long relationship in terms of The Jeremy Carr Show, four weeks.
31:46Where did you meet? If you say Facebook, I'm leaving.
31:49No, it's through a mutual friend. Yeah. Was it love at first sight?
31:52No, not really. Sex at first sight?
31:54Pretty much.
31:56So you were together four weeks, then what happened?
31:58Talk to me through it. Tell me, what happened?
32:01It was all all right, and then we went to my nan and grandad's
32:0450th wedding anniversary party.
32:07I got drunk. Did you?
32:09He reckons that he couldn't handle me that drunk,
32:11and I was determined I wanted to go out and drink some more,
32:14and he told me if I did, he'd leave.
32:16So I went out and he left, and that was it.
32:20And he never came back? No.
32:22Were you happy about that or unhappy?
32:24Quite happy, really. You were quite happy.
32:26Then suddenly you discover that you're pregnant.
32:29How soon after he walked out and you got hopelessly drunk
32:31did you discover that you were pregnant?
32:33It was five weeks and six days when I found out,
32:35and it was only because I went up to the hospital
32:38for stomach cramps that I found out.
32:40You told him, right? Yeah.
32:42What did he say? Nothing. What do you mean, nothing?
32:45Didn't seem bothered.
32:47Tried lying about it, saying that he can't have been his.
32:50He blocked you? Blocked me on Facebook, my number, the whole lot.
32:54You kept on, didn't you? Shut up.
32:57You tried, didn't you?
33:00I met him a week later and he just walked off, yeah.
33:03How old's your daughter? Two.
33:05You told my team, I've been trying to get a DNA test for two years,
33:09but this guy is more interested in his new life,
33:11he's got Elysia, Elysia, I don't know how you say it.
33:14Why are you here? Is this a massive day for you?
33:17It's gone on too long, my daughter needs to know.
33:20Is he the father, do you think?
33:22It's a high possibility, yeah.
33:24They're like a spitting image of each other.
33:26I'm not trying to be rude, but...
33:28There is another potential father, yeah, and he knows that.
33:31Has he done a DNA test? No.
33:33Why have you only chased Ryan and not the other bloke?
33:35I have spoken to the other person,
33:37he wants absolutely nothing to do with this whatsoever.
33:39Is that you trying to get your hooks into Ryan cos the other one doesn't?
33:42No, cos I'd rather him not be my baby dad.
33:44So you basically just want the truth for your kid?
33:46Shut up!
33:48I'd rather him not be my baby's dad, to be honest,
33:50she deserves better than that.
33:52Ryan says he wants his girlfriend to meet my daughter,
33:54no chance he can have contact but alone.
33:56She's not me, she's nothing to do with this.
33:58Are you jealous of her? No, I'm not.
34:00Why's your leg going up and down, then?
34:02It's just a natural thing that I do all the time.
34:04I think I might start doing it.
34:06Ryan is the spitting image of your daughter? Yeah.
34:08I'm 75% certain he's the dad today, the truth,
34:11and if he is, he steps up, yeah? Yeah.
34:13You can handle yourself, can't you?
34:15Ryan's on the Jeremy Carr Show that way.
34:23How old can you actually get?
34:25Oh, Ryan, seriously?
34:27Why has it took you two years to get old than me, right?
34:30Cos you've lost me. How am I meant to get older?
34:32You had Dildo, you had Jodie.
34:34Yeah, I had Jodie and then you blocked her, didn't you?
34:36Why have I moved two weeks ago?
34:38You've known from the start, Ryan.
34:40Yeah, that's loads of...
34:43Good.
34:44Cos she deserves everything she gets,
34:46what she's putting through, and she will get it.
34:49Yeah, she is, she's a part of my life, whether you like it or not.
34:52Yeah, but if you turn out to be my baby's dad,
34:55she is not meeting it.
34:56It's funny enough, yeah, about two weeks ago...
34:58Are you all right? I put a photo on Facebook.
35:00Are you all right?
35:01Yeah, I put a photo on Facebook two weeks ago,
35:03and it's funny how all this has come up.
35:05You're jealous. You're jealous.
35:07I'm jealous of you. Don't make me laugh, mate.
35:10Mate, I've been happy.
35:12Right, hold on a second.
35:14..says that you've put him through hell.
35:16Let's get your side. We've had your side.
35:18The relationship was a joke. It was only four weeks.
35:20Why was it a joke?
35:21Cos, like, she wanted to go out all the time, right?
35:24She had people over, right?
35:26She felt like she pushed me away.
35:28She didn't want to be with you.
35:29She didn't want to be with me, and I felt hurt.
35:31It's my flat. If I want my mates up, I will, innit?
35:33To leave, cos I was unhappy. What's it like being in a relationship?
35:35There's nothing wrong with that.
35:36I don't quite know why your girlfriend's shouting out,
35:38but let's just not talk about that.
35:39Blatantly, they're a shut-up.
35:40The relationship doesn't work, didn't work.
35:42But why has it taken two years?
35:44She says she's been begging you for DNA.
35:46That's liars. That's all liars.
35:47Of course it is. It is.
35:48He's blocked me. I couldn't get hold of him.
35:50As soon as I get my friends to message him...
35:52What have you done to me? Why would I want to talk to you?
35:54What has she done to you, buddy? Help me out. I need to...
35:56You cheated on me. I didn't cheat!
35:58Are you implying that you were really into her after four weeks?
36:02That it was serious?
36:03That's serious.
36:04But I'm saying you were quite into this girl quite quickly.
36:07That is so funny.
36:08Cos you've said she cheated, she devastated me, all that.
36:11I wasn't going to be in a relationship... I wasn't happy in.
36:13Did you find out she cheated before you left?
36:16Yeah, I did. No, because I never cheated on him.
36:18You did? Yeah, of course I did.
36:19Do you think she's pinning this on you
36:21because the other guy doesn't want to know?
36:23Is that what this is about?
36:25Two years down the line, suddenly, DNA,
36:28because, let's be honest, she told me the other one's not interested.
36:31Jeremy, the girl don't look nothing like me.
36:33Yeah, she does.
36:34When I was born, right, I was born with blonde hair, blue eyes,
36:37fair skin, right?
36:38What happened?
36:39The colour, right, the baby, right, it's a bit darker.
36:42Baby has a name.
36:43Baby has a name.
36:45Which one's you?
36:47The one on the left is you.
36:48I was the one on the left.
36:49She don't look nothing like me.
36:51Don't look nothing like me.
36:53Yes, she does.
36:54No, she don't.
36:55Even now, she's a special...
36:56Are you jealous of him and Alicia?
36:58Is it Alicia?
36:59It is, yeah.
37:00Let's get Alicia on the Jeremy Carl show and get me a chair.
37:08LAUGHTER
37:12You all right?
37:13Yep.
37:14Talk to her.
37:15Why would you lie all the time?
37:17Why would you want a burger when you can have a steak?
37:20LAUGHTER
37:22All right.
37:23You think I want that?
37:25You actually think I want that?
37:27You've had it before, you jumped on your...
37:29LAUGHTER
37:32Welcome to the show.
37:33You think she's after him, you're jealous.
37:35Oh, hello.
37:36I am jealous.
37:37Like, am I jealous of that?
37:39Do you think I'm jealous of you?
37:41No way.
37:42No way.
37:43All I want is the truth from my daughter, mate.
37:45She says that she would not allow you to be involved in the child's life,
37:48it's about him.
37:49No.
37:50Well, he only wants to see her in a contact centre
37:52cos he doesn't want to be there when he's eating.
37:54When you met Ryan and Alicia, how did you meet?
37:57Um, we met...
37:58Westbrook?
37:59Yeah.
38:00Yeah.
38:01Plenty of fish?
38:02No.
38:03No.
38:04Um, when you met, did he tell you about this potential child?
38:07Did you know straight...
38:08No, cos she didn't even get in contact.
38:10And then we posted photos.
38:12Now, hold on a minute, how long have you been together?
38:14Six months.
38:15But hold on a minute, she told you when she was five weeks pregnant.
38:18Shall I say nothing?
38:20Till when?
38:21Two weeks ago.
38:22I met you with my cousin.
38:23You didn't tell him till two weeks ago.
38:25I met you with my cousin.
38:27No, hold on a minute, hold on a minute.
38:29You said...
38:30Hold on, I'm doing this.
38:32Five weeks after you split, you discovered you were pregnant.
38:35Yes or no?
38:36Yes.
38:37Why didn't you tell him?
38:38I told him.
38:39I met up with him a week after I found out I was pregnant.
38:41She said she met up.
38:42You're saying you didn't find out till two weeks ago
38:44when you were in a relationship.
38:45We brought it back up to him again to do this.
38:47Which makes people think, I'm not having a go.
38:49It all fits in then.
38:50Why didn't you go to him two years ago?
38:52I tried.
38:53What do you think you're doing to Faith, yeah?
38:55How you fell on her?
38:56Says you.
38:57How you fell on her?
38:58You have not bothered, have you?
38:59You have not bothered.
39:00You've brought that door up two years on my own.
39:03You've done nothing, have you?
39:05Two years on my own, Ryan.
39:07He's saying he wants to be the dad,
39:09so if you'd gone to him two years ago...
39:11Hold on a second, let's just look at this.
39:13If you told him two weeks ago, that would fit, cos he's here.
39:17For a man who says he wants to be involved
39:19and will even do it in a contact centre,
39:21wouldn't he have said that two years ago if you'd told him?
39:24No, he didn't.
39:25You sure this isn't that you're pinning this on him?
39:27No.
39:28Liars.
39:29You've known from the start, Ryan, you're such a liar.
39:32How sure are you that he's the dad?
39:34About 75%.
39:3575%?!
39:36Yeah.
39:37Her boyfriend and the results after this, right back.
39:40If that is his baby, then,
39:41then he could turn round and say that he don't want him in his life,
39:44then you have to get rid of him, don't you?
39:46I don't trust you as far as I'm afraid of.
39:48I don't trust you either.
39:49Why do you think I'm saying contact centre?
39:51I know you've just got to walk into our life here and walk back out.
39:54I missed out on the first steps, right? I missed out when it was born, right?
39:57No, you've not, but that's down to you, not me.
39:59No, that's down to you, Georgia.
40:00That's down to you.
40:01No, it ain't at all.
40:17It's all kicking off. Security.
40:19Oh, my God!
40:25This test says you're a liar, love.
40:28This isn't about you, this is about your children.
40:31Oh, here we go.
40:33OK, more happiness after.
40:37Oh, get off.
40:38No, no, no, no, no!
40:43Oh, my Lord.
40:45We need Philip Scopefield to put up with this.
40:50CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
40:57Welcome back from the break, exes at war, Georgia and Ryan.
41:00What's your boyfriend called?
41:01Travis.
41:02Travis?! He's different, he's on The Jeremy Carr Show.
41:13Hello.
41:14Is that for real?
41:15That is some air, son. How are you? Welcome to the show.
41:17What do you want to say?
41:18I know.
41:19Well, like, obviously, how is he, yeah?
41:21Like, obviously, it don't matter how long they've been together, yeah?
41:24Like, obviously, if they're going to try for a baby and all...
41:26Yeah, like, if, like, obviously, if he's...
41:29Brilliant, brilliant. Absolute, honestly, brilliant.
41:32Like, if he can't come up with the one that he's already,
41:34like, most probably got,
41:35how is he going to come up with the one what he's trying for?
41:38What happened? What happened? Did he go down...?
41:40Hang on, hang on. If that is his baby, then,
41:42then he could turn around and say that he don't want him in his life.
41:45Then you have to get rid of him.
41:46No, I don't.
41:47What did you do? Go down... What did you do?
41:49What did you do? Go down on the list and say, yeah, well...
41:52Let's get all the film out.
41:53Yeah, of course I did.
41:54I don't trust you as far as I'm afraid of you.
41:56I don't trust you either.
41:57Why do you think I'm staying in contact with you?
41:59Likewise, likewise.
42:00I know, you've just got to walk into her life, yeah, and walk back out.
42:02Why do you think I'm here today? Why do you think I'm here today?
42:04Why have you suddenly thrown a contact centre in?
42:06Because I'm not having her involved in my daughter's life.
42:09Whether you like it or not, she is.
42:10No, she's not.
42:11He told me that she was going to be there, no matter what he said.
42:13But he didn't know anything until last week, did he?
42:15I'm here today to find out.
42:17Why did you only bring him here now, then?
42:19Let's turn it right round.
42:21Why did you not come here...
42:23But you rang the Jeremy Kyle show and he came...
42:25I didn't ring him.
42:26Who rang, then?
42:27My mate did.
42:28When your friend slash you slash anybody phoned this show...
42:31Yeah.
42:32..two weeks ago, or whenever it was, he came straight away.
42:35I want to find out the truth.
42:36You'll be quiet.
42:37You'll sit there saying he doesn't want to know.
42:39Would not the same have happened two years ago
42:41if she or you had run?
42:42Yeah, well...
42:43I'm sorry, I'm not...
42:44Can you tell me that?
42:45The more I hear of this,
42:46are you sure you didn't just ring him two weeks ago
42:48when the ex went...
42:49I'm not... Hold on a minute.
42:50The one you had sex with apart from it,
42:52when did you contact him?
42:53He's been in...
42:54I've been in contact with him the whole time.
42:56When did he say, I don't want to know?
42:59Literally a couple of days ago.
43:00Lies, you're fake.
43:01He was with me!
43:02About a couple of weeks ago, yeah?
43:03He wasn't even on his phone.
43:04So, for the last two years, be quiet.
43:06Shut up, Ryan.
43:08For the last two years,
43:09the other father's been quite reasonable.
43:11No, he hasn't.
43:12He still hasn't had anything to do with Areeva.
43:14Has he done a DNA test?
43:16No.
43:17Oh...
43:18Wow.
43:20That says it all, doesn't it?
43:21If a kid hasn't mind you,
43:22you're going to be on this show two months later.
43:24You told my team you reckon
43:25there's other potential fathers, right?
43:27I'm so glad I don't know who my three kids' dads are
43:29cos I don't have to go through this all the time.
43:32Right!
43:35I swear to...
43:36Why are you swearing?
43:37Cos I really opiate my daughter's dad, mate.
43:39So do we!
43:40She deserves better than that.
43:41How do we?
43:42She deserves so much better.
43:43Can I ask you a question before we do this?
43:45She doesn't look like me.
43:47You're telling me she don't look like you?
43:49She don't.
43:50No, you are blind, mate.
43:51She don't.
43:52Nothing like me at all.
43:53How is she? Is she good?
43:54Yeah.
43:55Good kid?
43:56Yeah.
43:57Does he help?
43:58Yeah.
43:59You don't talk to her a lot, though, do you?
44:01No, like...
44:02Never mind, don't worry, it's fine.
44:04I actually like you.
44:05Just don't say a word, Travis.
44:07Just the hair's enough to look cool, all right?
44:09In an ideal world, if he is, what do you want?
44:11I want him to step up, but without her being involved straight away.
44:14I'm going to step up, that's why I'm here today,
44:16to find out the truth.
44:17If she is yours...
44:18We just sat here for fun, weren't we?
44:20Then, yeah.
44:21What about the fact that for two...
44:22Hello?
44:23What about the fact if he is the father,
44:25he's missed out for two years?
44:26Whose fault's that?
44:27Can I tell you one thing, right?
44:28I missed out on the first steps, right?
44:29I missed out when it was born, right?
44:30I can't give two years back, George-O.
44:32No, you can't, but that's down to you, not me.
44:34No, that's down to you, George-O.
44:35That's down to you.
44:37How is that down to him?
44:39I would have said, please, listen to me.
44:41Because he hasn't bothered.
44:42But have you?
44:43Why didn't you ring here two years ago and force him to come?
44:47But he told me...
44:48Then why didn't you only contact...
44:50You got hold of him...
44:51I didn't want to do it this way.
44:53I wanted to go private.
44:54How sure are you that he's the biological father of the baby?
44:56About 75%.
44:57Can you please be quiet?
44:59How sure are you that you're the father of the baby?
45:02About 75%.
45:04I don't feel I'm the father.
45:05I ain't taking your gift.
45:06Don't look nothing like me.
45:07I hope you ain't, mate, seriously.
45:08I ain't bringing it.
45:09Yeah, if you ain't, I want you out of my life.
45:11I want you to get on my case because I'm happy for once, yeah?
45:14You couldn't make me happy.
45:16What's really weird about you guys is you talk about this relationship.
45:20She said it was four weeks, it was nothing,
45:23but you said, oh, I was devastated by it.
45:25I don't believe about the two years thing.
45:27That doesn't add up.
45:28Considering Jodie was with me for that whole time,
45:31she knows everything.
45:32But the other guy has just told you he's not interested ever.
45:35But he was still a part of our life for a while, though.
45:38He knew he could possibly not be the father.
45:40So you let him be part of a child's life that he might not be the father of?
45:43He knows he's possibly not the father.
45:45Why didn't he do a DNA test two years ago?
45:47Because he didn't want to.
45:48So why is it all Ryan's fault?
45:49How many men did you sleep with?
45:51Literally the two of them.
45:53That is it.
45:55How sure are you that he's the father?
45:57About 75%.
45:58And what did you say?
45:59About 40% not.
46:01I ain't the father.
46:03The DNA test does not show that Ryan...
46:07..is not the child's father.
46:09Yes! In your face! Yes!
46:12Good. Thank you.
46:14Now...
46:15..stay out of my life.
46:17You're trash!
46:18Yes!
46:21APPLAUSE
46:25You sit down. You sit down.
46:32I don't... Usually, to be honest...
46:34Shush! I want to talk to Travis.
46:39Usually, I'd go after them,
46:41but I think I'd have a better conversation with you, Travis,
46:44so let's talk about...
46:46What do you put in your hair?
46:48Well, sometimes, like, gel, wax, it depends.
46:52Works, though, doesn't it? Yeah.
46:56Have you got a fade at the back, have you?
46:59No, it's just, like, basically, like, a short round the sides
47:02and just, like, long on the top. I always had it.
47:05And how long have you been with Georgia?
47:08Well, like, we've been together for, like, two months,
47:11and I've done more than, like, them two have done with the kid
47:14than, like, in two months.
47:16Do you love Georgia? Yeah.
47:18Really, like... Yeah.
47:20Like, yesterday morning, like, she gave me a kiss,
47:22said that she loved me and everything else.
47:24Then, like, the past couple of times, she called me Dad and all that,
47:27cos I've been there more than them two have.
47:29Well done, everybody. I'm not running after you.
47:31Well done. You didn't want to be the father
47:33and she didn't want him to be the father.
47:37So, shall we just finish the show now?
47:39Cos I want to go to your hairdressers.
47:43Georgia, do you know who the father is?
47:45Yes. Brilliant.
47:47So, listen, you look after her and the baby, all right?
47:50And make sure you give me a hairdresser, all right?
47:52It's been a pleasure. Give Travis a round of applause.
47:57I'm, um...
47:59I'm out of time for today. If you want to be on this show,
48:01you need my help. Visit our website.
48:03The details, including his hairdresser, will be on screen.
48:05Thank you to my guests, this audience, and to you at home.
48:07I'll see you very soon. Take care. Bye-bye.
48:13Tonight on The Kyle Files...
48:16You sold drugs today for that money.
48:18What am I going to do with this in about two hours?
48:20I'd have to bag, steal, anything to get the money for you.
48:22Breaking the law.
48:24You're just doing something someone don't like.
48:26And I threw the police radio, and I just knew.
48:28And I said, he's gone, hasn't he?
48:31When you're out here, you're out on your own.
48:33It's the face that's the problem.
48:56The Kyle Files.