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00:00There are a lot of male comedians, so if you invite only good-looking comedians,
00:07people will think that you're sexually harassing them.
00:10They'll think that?
00:12The theme of tonight's Deep is...
00:15A lot of female customers come to my office,
00:19and they ask me how I've been doing.
00:21They ask me how I've been doing.
00:23They get close to me and touch me,
00:25and I can't say no to that.
00:27Sexual harassment.
00:30Sexual harassment.
00:36Sexual harassment is often thought to be done by men to women,
00:41but there are also cases where the victim becomes a woman.
00:44So, the theme of tonight's Deep is...
00:47Sexual harassment by women.
00:50I want to touch her muscles.
00:52I want to see her abs.
00:53Without permission, I'm like,
00:54Wow, that's amazing!
00:55It's hard for men to say that.
00:57It's hard for men to say that.
00:59If I were a man, I'd say,
01:01If I were a man, I'd say,
01:04It's not good to say it when you don't know if the other person likes it or not.
01:09People often ask me if I have a girlfriend.
01:12I think it's sexual harassment.
01:15This man was sexually harassed at work.
01:19When I was working on my computer, I was pointing at the screen,
01:23and I felt a tingling sensation.
01:26If I were a girl, I'd say,
01:28If I were a man, I'd say,
01:30I have a bad feeling about this.
01:32I learned a lot from that experience.
01:34On the other hand, some women think it's sexual harassment.
01:38I think they think it's physical affection.
01:41I think they think it's physical affection.
01:44I think it's harassment for both genders.
01:50I think it's harassment for both genders.
01:51So, before you turn 35,
01:53I would hate to hear that I'm married and have a baby.
01:57I would hate to hear that I'm married and have a baby.
01:59Maybe they'll accept that I'm a gay.
02:02Maybe they'll accept that I'm a gay.
02:04But if I were to hear about it from a girl,
02:06I might get pissed off.
02:08So today we talked about sexual harassment by female.
02:13The night when men and women are deeply in love!
02:20This program is a talk show for adults with deep themes.
02:24Today's theme is sexual harassment by women.
02:27Ichinose-kun, did you have a lot of sexual harassment from women?
02:30The distance was close and I was touched a lot.
02:36I didn't think that men were sexually harassed.
02:41I think it's because of the current situation.
02:46When I said, I'm Ichinose-san,
02:49she always said,
02:50I want to kiss your cute lips.
02:54Without expectation?
02:56Of course.
02:58Especially the last one,
02:59I want to kiss anyone.
03:01Anytime.
03:03Was there any sexual harassment?
03:08I don't think so.
03:13But when I talked to my female friends,
03:17they said,
03:18When did you kiss?
03:19Because they wanted to talk about love,
03:21I said,
03:22If you can't talk about love,
03:23let me talk about myself.
03:24I talked about my kiss.
03:25When did you kiss?
03:27I thought like that.
03:30I thought,
03:31Is this enough sexual harassment?
03:35I don't remember sexual harassment from men.
03:38It happens.
03:42It happens.
03:43How about you, Kusano-san?
03:44Is there anything you are careful about?
03:46When I have a meeting to write a song for an idol, artist, or voice actor,
03:52when I have a line group,
03:54I always get in touch with the manager and the president of the agency.
03:57I only get in touch with them.
04:01I don't get in touch with them individually.
04:03For example,
04:04when I don't have a way to get in touch with them,
04:09I send a DM to my agency.
04:14I ask them,
04:15Can I post a picture like this?
04:18I'm really careful about that.
04:22That's hard.
04:24It's easier to write a song when I get along with them.
04:27But I do get in touch with them a little bit.
04:31How about you, Atobu-san?
04:32Is there anything you are careful about?
04:36When I write a song,
04:37I try to keep a distance.
04:39Or I hold hands.
04:41Even if I don't write a song,
04:44I think it's better to keep a distance.
04:46Sometimes I make a suggestion.
04:49I think it's natural to hold hands.
04:53Even if I'm going to have a discussion,
04:55I'm afraid I can't refuse.
04:58It's hard to act, isn't it?
05:01It's difficult.
05:02Do you make a suggestion to your agency?
05:04For example,
05:05Can I hold hands?
05:07I'm a little afraid of that.
05:11If I don't have a way to get in touch with them,
05:13I don't get in touch with them.
05:15But if I do that,
05:16I get in touch with them more and more.
05:19I don't get in touch with them at all.
05:21That's hard.
05:23How about you, Hayu-san?
05:24Is there anything you are careful about?
05:27Overwhelmingly, there are many male entertainers.
05:30When I try to hang out with my entertainers,
05:34I naturally invite more male entertainers.
05:38If I invite only handsome entertainers,
05:42they think I'm a sexual harasser.
05:45Do they think so?
05:46Yes, they think so.
05:49I see.
05:50Do entertainers think so, too?
05:52I've been laughed at in the past.
05:55About 10 years ago, we had a live show as a duo.
05:58At that time, 80-90% of the audience was female.
06:02I invited two groups of male entertainers every time.
06:05We had a live show where we asked them to do the love situation we had in mind in front of the audience.
06:11Like a kiss?
06:12That's right.
06:13I asked them,
06:14How can I make her feel better?
06:16Now that I think about it,
06:19I don't think it's a good idea to make her feel better just because she's a comedian.
06:25I don't think it's a good idea to make her feel better just because she's a comedian.
06:29I think it's a little different when you invite someone you like because he's good-looking.
06:37I think so, too.
06:38Oh, did that happen?
06:40I guess it did.
06:46How do you take care of yourself?
06:48I'm 34 years old now.
06:50I don't think it's a good idea to get excited over trivial things.
06:53If you're a little older than me,
06:56I think it's better for you to say it yourself.
07:00But when you get older,
07:02and you have a meal with a 20-year-old girl,
07:06I don't think it's a good idea to listen to her.
07:11I don't think it's a good idea to listen to her.
07:13I don't think it's a good idea to listen to her.
07:14I don't think it's a good idea to listen to her.
07:17Also, I don't think it's a good idea to speak on her behalf.
07:22When it comes to my boobs,
07:26it's a bit complicated to think about what you're going to nitpick about.
07:31When it comes to my boobs, it's a big worry even for me.
07:38Like Rika said,
07:40people forget that you like them or not.
07:45I'm not sure how much of the world's men think that the person listening is a sexual pervert.
07:54I want to know the boundary line.
07:58I heard that you did some research on the show.
08:01What do you think is a sexual pervert?
08:05The result is here.
08:06Well, sexual jokes and dirty jokes.
08:08Dirty jokes are coming.
08:1046% body touch.
08:1434% of people accept that they have a girlfriend as a sexual pervert.
08:19Can't I change my hairstyle?
08:21Why?
08:22I changed my hairstyle to become a sexual pervert.
08:25I'm sure you can't cut your hair.
08:27You often say that when you turn the other way.
08:29When you say to a young man that you are a sexual pervert,
08:33I'm sure we can't do it anymore.
08:36I'm glad you noticed that I cut my hair.
08:39There are only 5% of people who call me by my first name.
08:44You're a sexual pervert.
08:46Yes.
08:47People call me Fassama.
08:49When I searched for Fassama,
08:51I found that Mr. Ueda is great.
08:53When people call me by my first name,
08:55I feel bad.
08:56That's why I found a good place called Fassama.
08:59I'm self-evaluating.
09:00Really?
09:01I found out that there are people who look at me like that.
09:05I don't call my daughter Fassama.
09:08I call her Fassama.
09:10That's right.
09:11That's because she's the only one in the world.
09:13It's a special nickname.
09:14It may be old,
09:16but body touch and clothes with a lot of loss
09:20are a technique for women.
09:24It may be a strange mania,
09:26but men are very happy when they touch their bodies casually.
09:30It's a good way to show your body.
09:32It's a hot dog press.
09:34It's a hot dog press today.
09:36It's not a trick, but it's a good way to show your body.
09:39I used to touch my boyfriend's body a lot.
09:45It's a good way to show your body.
09:48That's right.
09:49If you don't look at your boyfriend's body,
09:51you'll fall in love with him.
09:53About 10 years ago,
09:55I didn't feel like a lover, but I felt like a friend.
09:59We had a sense of each other.
10:02When I asked him out for a meal,
10:04he said,
10:06I like you, too.
10:08Maybe we can go out together.
10:10We're getting to know each other.
10:12But now, we don't go out at all.
10:14Is that so?
10:15I think I can only ask him out when I'm sure he likes me.
10:21I don't feel like I'm in touch with him as much as I used to.
10:27I see.
10:29For example, if a woman asks you out for a meal,
10:33do you feel uncomfortable?
10:36But I'm glad that she recognizes me and cares about me.
10:43Do you want to go out for a meal today?
10:47Yes, thank you.
10:49Stop it.
10:51Did you hear her trembling voice?
10:56She was trembling like a goat.
10:59Really?
11:01By the way,
11:03I asked her if she didn't care about her relationship with him.
11:06This is the result.
11:08You don't care about him, do you?
11:10He looks so handsome.
11:12I like his hairstyle.
11:15Stop it.
11:19I asked her if she didn't care about her relationship with him.
11:24This is the result.
11:26You don't care about him, do you?
11:28He looks so handsome.
11:30He looks so handsome.
11:32Do you care about his appearance?
11:35I don't want to see him.
11:38I don't want to see him in public.
11:44I don't want to see him in public.
11:46I like his hairstyle and his timing.
11:51I like his hairstyle and his timing.
11:57I like his hairstyle and his timing.
12:02I like his hairstyle and his timing.
12:04I like his hairstyle and his timing.
12:06I like his hairstyle and his timing.
12:08What do you care about him?
12:10I care about his birthday present.
12:14I used to like shampoo and socks.
12:22But I started to hate the smell of Matsura.
12:29I started to hate the smell of Matsura.
12:38I don't know what to give him.
12:41I used to give him miso soup.
12:46I don't know if Matsura is here.
12:49I don't know what to give him.
12:54That's an exaggeration.
12:57You don't remember Matsura.
13:00I used to give him pants.
13:03I used to give him pants.
13:08It's easy to use.
13:11I think it's hard to give he tuxedo.
13:15I think it's hard to give he tuxedo.
13:18It's hard to give he tuxedo.
13:22Matsura is too imaginative.
13:26Matsura is too imaginative.
13:30He is so open-minded.
13:33What's the matter?
14:03What's the matter?
14:05It's not okay to ask like that.
14:08What's the matter?
14:10I'm not interested in that kind of thing.
14:13Okubo-san, do you try not to invite boys by yourself?
14:17I don't invite boys by myself.
14:19I don't invite boys because I don't want to get excited by myself.
14:23So when I invite boys by myself, I only invite those who are willing to do so.
14:27It's easy to attract boys.
14:29I see.
14:31It's easy to understand, isn't it?
14:33Can you do it today?
14:35I'll try again.
14:37Look at her bitter smile.
14:40I can't say anything.
14:42I can't say anything.
14:44I can't say anything.
14:46This is sexual harassment, isn't it?
14:49What do you think?
14:51Have you ever thought that it was sexual harassment?
14:57There was a woman who greeted me with a hug.
15:01I'm not used to that kind of thing.
15:03So I was attracted to her.
15:06Even though she greeted me with a hug,
15:09she always greeted me with a hug.
15:14I didn't know there was a hug that didn't symbolize peace.
15:19I don't like body touch.
15:22I had a lot of female friends.
15:24I think it's okay because we're both men and women.
15:28I'm most curious about this.
15:30In a drinking party where there are men,
15:32I often see women flirting with each other.
15:36I see.
15:38There is such a thing.
15:40I touched her breast first, but it was bigger than I thought.
15:43I was surprised.
15:46I didn't know there was a woman in a drinking party where there were men.
15:49What does she mean?
15:51By doing such a thing,
15:53I think I'm cute and feminine.
15:56I don't think I'm being visualized.
15:58I think I'm being visualized by a woman.
16:00I think it's better not to do it.
16:04If you don't do it, it's not good.
16:07When I went to see Asako's solo live,
16:09I went to the dressing room.
16:11At the end of the solo live,
16:13Asako was really sweaty and wet.
16:15She came to me like this.
16:17I thought she was a sweat doll.
16:20Why are you sweating?
16:22I thought she was a sweat doll.
16:24I've been in the women's team for about 20 years.
16:28I've been in the women's team for about 20 years.
16:31I don't have any resistance.
16:33You don't have any resistance.
16:35It's a sign of friendship.
16:38I had a lot of muscles,
16:40so everyone was hanging around here.
16:42I was hanging around here.
16:44Everyone was hanging around here.
16:46I was hanging around here.
16:49Everyone messed with my body as much as they wanted.
16:53Do you ever think that you're not sexy even if you're gay?
17:00If I'm told by a gay person,
17:02I feel like I'm going to feel it.
17:19At the time of this program,
17:21We are looking for your worries.
17:24It's hard to tell your family and friends.
17:26If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.
17:30Do you ever think that you're not sexy even if you're gay?
17:36What if I'm married?
17:38Matsuura, you like kids, don't you?
17:41If it's from a heterosexual person,
17:43I can say,
17:44Please leave me alone.
17:46When I hear it from a girl, I feel like it's coming from deep inside of me.
17:49It's like, oh yeah, that's right, that's how it feels.
17:54It feels like you're getting closer to your true self.
17:56Yeah, that's right.
17:57We're the same age, 40 years old, and we're from Miko.
18:02When I went back to my hometown in Osaka, I went out to drink with a senpai from my hometown.
18:08I was in my early 50s, and my senpai had been a housewife for a long time.
18:14She told me that a woman's happiness is to look after her husband's work and the growth of her children.
18:24I was like, wow, that's your happiness!
18:27It's not my happiness, but she said it was really good.
18:33I was in a drinking session, so I let it go, but even after about five years, it's still in my body.
18:40I don't know if it's good for couples who aren't married, but if it's the same situation, I can ask.
18:47I can't even say anything about marriage anymore.
18:51Obviously, when we're talking about love, it's not like we're having an affair, but it's like we're not talking to each other.
19:00I was like, what about you, Okubo-san?
19:02When I'm about to die, I'm going to let you bite my hand.
19:07That's all I can do.
19:10What kind of resistance is that?
19:12Here's a message from Ichiyose-kun.
19:14The four sisters' story, which is loved all over the world, will be revived in Japan.
19:18Sunday drama, Wakakusa Monogatari.
19:20The fourth episode of Koisuru Shimai to Koisenu Watashi will air on November 3rd at 10.30 p.m.
19:26Please watch the socialist star food comedy where the four sisters pursue their own happiness.
19:31Next time, we'll talk about skin troubles.
19:35I have a weak skin, so I've been living a really boring life.
19:40I'm allergic to alcohol, too.
19:42I just need to wash my face and I'll be fine in a couple of days.
19:45Look forward to it.