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00:00All right, dr. Donnie has scrubbed in he is ready to give you the diagnosis for George Kittle who
00:07Surprisingly missed last week's game at home for San Francisco a huge NFC West divisional duel
00:14Against the Seattle Seahawks
00:15of course the Seahawks and Geno Smith a late drive scoring a touchdown in the final 15 seconds of
00:22Regulation is still a victory on the road in Santa Clara George Kittle was out for the game
00:28Numerous defensive injuries including Nick Bosa getting banged up midway through the game as well
00:34It's been the story of the season for San Francisco DRS the countless injuries
00:39The 49ers have had to face part of the reason they are 5 and 5
00:43But George Kittle telling reporters yesterday at practice ahead of an old NFC rivalry renewed this week in Lambeau against Green Bay
00:51Quote, I will be playing on Sunday. Very excited can't pass up playing the Packers
00:57I will be out there for sure and
01:00Quote is George Kittle. Dr. Donnie as good to go as he indicates that he is
01:06He can be out there like just from prior experience my senior year in college. I tore my hamstring
01:12I started every single game for four years tore it
01:14I missed one game and played the final three games of my senior year with a completely black
01:18Left left left leg on the hamstring. I could barely hobble around but you can be out there. That's true
01:23How effective you're gonna be that's another story and also let's play the long game here
01:28Do you know why he's coming back so quickly here? Look at the 49ers record
01:31Look at who they're gonna be playing over the next couple weeks. Every game is so paramount
01:34You're telling me right now instead of five and five and they were eight and two George Kittle takes two three weeks off of this
01:39You know what? I'll be back fully healthy for the playoff run. That's the issue
01:42I worry about playing and continue to play through something that you probably shouldn't be doing even here in Philadelphia
01:47Devante Smith has been hobbling for a couple weeks with a hamstring injury not practicing much during the week trying to give it a go
01:52During game day. Look at his numbers here. The hamstring injury is so tough on an athlete with quick twitch specifically tight ends and wide receivers
01:59Yes, they can play but come on now if you're not running your routes it at least 80%
02:04What are you actually doing out there? So yes, I do believe George Kittle believes he's going to play how effective he will be
02:09That's another story
02:11Yeah, and that's really going to be the question DRS and they can ill afford to lose football games. But frankly Donnie
02:19This is a big one, right all the divisional tiebreakers and conference tiebreakers and a rivalry and you really can't put yourself behind the eight ball
02:27Falling to five and six in week number twelve, but the Niners best path is through the NFC West
02:34In fact every team in that division to win
02:37The division right now is paramount because three teams including the Niners Rams and Seahawks all five and five
02:43The Cardinals the only team above 500 at six and four
02:47But here's what's really interesting knowing San Francisco struggles and how injured they are on either side of the football
02:55this would be the first time since the
02:582022 NFC Championship game as a very slight underdog in
03:04Philadelphia that the Niners would be booked as a dog a favorite in every single game last year
03:10Including Super Bowl 58 against the Chiefs a favorite in every single game this year as well
03:16But the Niners will enter Green Bay as of this moment getting points against the pack
03:22Still shows you how much respect that the odds makers are given the San Francisco 49ers Green Bay is a good football team
03:27Green Bay is at home and the fact that the Niners coming in not playing good football and
03:31500 and still only getting one and a half points as opposed to three three and a half or four points that shows you how
03:37Still scared they are that the Niners can turn it on at any moment
03:40But if we're being honest once again that I injured okay, they have plenty other players here
03:44that was a massive blow to that offense and now you're saying Debo Samuel can't step up as being that Swiss Army knife because you're
03:50Focused more on him and now George Kittle one of the best tight ends in football is hobbled by an injury Christian McCaffrey coming back
03:56He still doesn't look explosive as he was
03:58It's only normal that the San Francisco 49ers are going to take a downshift in this season
04:03But the odds makers still keep propping them back up as if they should win the NFC
04:06Yeah, they should be excuse me NFC West and they should be an NFC power and also this weekend
04:11Legitimately probably should win this game only roughly a pick'em. It feels like now in this game
04:16And DRS the concern for me is not offensively for San Francisco
04:20It's defensively to see if Nick Bosa is going to play or how effective he will be with the numerous
04:26other defensive injuries the Niners have now
04:29Here's a conversation around a former Giants quarterback because Eli Manning along with Luke Eakley Terrell Suggs Earl Thomas Adam
04:38inventory Marshall Yanda our first-year eligible candidates among the 25 modern era players who are
04:45semi-finalists for the Hall of Fame's class of
04:482025 the age-old debate is Eli Manning a
04:53Hall of Famer or a first ballot Hall of Famer. What does Donnie right side say if his name was Eli Smith?
05:00He doesn't make it into the Hall of Fame
05:01Maybe makes it in 25 years with the veteran committee and I'm not trying to slander Eli Manning a hundred and what?
05:06Seventeen and a hundred and seventeen when I think of the greatest players of all time Eli doesn't pop up and quite frankly
05:12Eli was never the best quarterback in his division at any time throughout his career. It's not a Hall of Fame
05:22Opening hour of the early line not a lot of football our number two on this Thursday a ton of football
05:30Exclusively football to get you ready for week number 12 that kicks off tonight in Cleveland
05:36Should be a blustery cold and rainy night
05:39That's AFC North football buddy between the Browns and the Steelers Pittsburgh atop the division at eight and two winners of five
05:48Consecutive games will set the stage for Thursday night football all the players the props and everything that you need to know
05:53That will dictate the outcome to start week number 12
05:57Mark Zinno will join us later on in this second hour to talk to you about the game of the year
06:03Number five in college football
06:06It's Ohio State in Indiana on Saturday in
06:11Columbus elsewhere around the SEC more Thursday night football thoughts. That's how you do it
06:16Drs here on a Thursday in our number two
06:20Exactly and talking yesterday about the college football playoff rankings that came out. I could care less who got the buys
06:25I'm just focused on where we're gonna get some of these home games and you're telling me that we have some
06:29Absolute bangers if the season ended today of what we would get where Alabama will be on the road and some cold weather
06:35I mean, I sign me up
06:36I cannot wait to get there, but we still have a couple more weeks to let things play out
06:40Including that Ohio State, Indiana game kicking off at noon
06:44Geniuses out there genius is putting that on at noon
06:48The biggest fan of big noon kickoffs in the history of college football
06:54It is that man right there in
06:56Donnie right side DRS before we preview tonight's Thursday night football game between the Browns and the Steelers
07:03Did just want to wrap up the conversation around Eli Manning
07:06It is one of those debates you have had with your buddies or your group chat many a time in the last decade
07:13Eli Manning is one of six quarterbacks in the history of the National Football League to have multiple
07:19Lombardi trophies. He's a two-time Super Bowl MVP as well
07:23Maybe not multiple Lombardi trophies, but Super Bowl MVP's Joe Friso. Can we get some clarification on that? Or is it multiple Super Bowl?
07:31Championships. Yeah MVP. Yes. Thank you very much four-time pro bowler for Eli Manning as well
07:37The number is pretty good
07:39But rather mediocre in comparison in terms of the win-loss record in all that Eli Manning was able to accomplish
07:46Of course, his name carries a lot of weight in the lore of National Football League history as well
07:5457,000 23 passing yards 11th most all-time
07:58but a lot of people from this generation of the National Football League will rank in the top 5 top 10 top 20 in
08:04Terms of passing yards and passing touchdowns now Donnie the question
08:08I don't actually know if it's is Eli Manning a Hall of Famer
08:11But is Eli Manning a first ballot Hall of Famer?
08:14You would say no, do you think eventually Eli Manning?
08:19Understanding who he is and what his name means to the NFL will be in the Hall of Fame when all is said and done
08:271,000% because once I understood that the Hall of Fame was a business and not just getting in on merit for most of the time
08:33He's gonna get in the Giants are a big market
08:35People will make the pilgrimage out to Canton, Ohio when he gets inducted
08:39That means more money for the Hall of Fame that actually operates independent of the NFL
08:43So let's get that out of the way the player himself
08:45Very good football player you win two Super Bowls not a lot of quarterbacks have done that I understand that but as I brought up
08:51The point it's not from a hating perspective as he just said Eli was a good quarterback
08:54Compare him to his brother who every single year felt like he made the Pro Bowl and was shattering records
08:59Oh, but only one won Super Bowl stop the madness Peyton was so much a better quarterback here that you sort of ride on those
09:04Coattails when I look at Hall of Fame, you're not even supposed to have a debate on who's a Hall of Fame player
09:10It should be a snap decision
09:12Absolutely. Yes, absolutely. No, I don't want to hear about look 117 and 117 as a quarterback. That's ridiculous
09:18She was kind of interceptions. Did he step up big in a few moments? Yes, he did
09:21Let's also understand this the catalyst for the Giants winning Super Bowls was never Eli Manning
09:26It was always the defense that got the credit for him
09:29Did he make big plays in the Super Bowl won a great pass down the sideline to Manningham love that play?
09:34But how about the David Tyree play which had been a stone-cold?
09:37Interception which stuck to a guy's helmet which Eli gets credit for a horrendous pass
09:42Downfield again, I'm not slandering Eli. He's a good quarterback, but in no way shape or form when you bring up Hall of Fame
09:48He should automatically be in but as I said
09:51He will eventually get in because the Hall of Fame would love to put his boss there
09:54People will go there and pay money to see Eli Manning as that monster franchise the New York Giants. That's my piece
10:02Frankly I actually think he's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer as well whether he is deserving of it
10:08But the notoriety behind it I think allows him in on the first try
10:13I don't care as much about the Hall of Fame as some do in either sports or in any of the sports
10:20I do believe Eli Manning because of his notoriety his place in the
10:24Grandeur that the Manning name has in the National Football League
10:28Given the fact he has won two Lombardi trophies and two Super Bowl MVPs
10:32I think that will be the difference maker to have Eli Manning be a first ballot Hall of Famer
10:37I don't really get involved in these long sports debates, but I do hear your points as well
10:43Drs any more thought on Eli Manning before we talk about actual football this week in the start of week number 12
10:50No, and by the way awesome guy. Yeah funny is all get out him and his brother make great content here
10:55So if he gets in I'm not gonna be upset by it, but this also comes from well Donnie
10:58You're a hater of the Giants have you ever heard me talk about Donovan McNabb when they try to bring him up for the Hall
11:02Of Fame absolutely not and I say multiple times
11:05I would go into Lincoln financial field and look up in the Raptors and see five retired like how the hell did that happen?
11:11So I'm not a hater if I'm hate them hate on my own team more than anybody else
11:14I'm just calling it for what it's worth when I see something. I don't like I'll call it out simple as that
11:20Reports of a South Jersey man climbing the Raptors at the link to rip down a certain retired Jersey
11:27Oh, that's Donnie right side all right
11:29Let's get you ready for an AFC North divisional duel to kick off week number 12
11:34of this NFL
11:36Regular season the Pittsburgh Steelers the team atop the division right now in the AFC North eight and two is the record a cover in
11:43All eight victories five wins in a row including all four with Russell Wilson under center the Steelers three and a half point
11:51favorite only
11:52Against the two and eight Cleveland Browns who have covered just once in any other eight losses this
12:00Season let's start with the numbers the RS Pittsburgh a little bit more than a field goal favorite that could be crucial for a game that
12:07Features a total now just 36 and a half
12:10But actually up ever so slightly in the last hour to 37 and a hook it was 35 and a half
12:17Earlier this week Geron area and I took an early look at this game and he mentioned some potential
12:24gnarly weather tonight on the shores of
12:27Lake Erie win wintry mix gusts up to 40 miles per hour
12:32It's why I already bet the under I might I got a bad number at 35 and a hook the odds-makers might tell you
12:39Yeah, everybody usually what happens to is you'll get it on TV and game time like oh look
12:43It doesn't look that bad in the warm-ups three hours before the game
12:45But it is gonna be some not great weather in a season
12:48We've had fantastic weather for a lot of NFL action particularly in the month of November now. Let's just understand this
12:54It's a Thursday football game. It's a division rival. It's colder weather some rain
12:58Maybe and some wind that that doesn't signal like oh my goodness
13:01Let's get after and also keep in mind last. I think the dam is broken on the Cleveland Browns. Hey, let's get excited
13:06We beat the Ravens unbelievable. The bottom is falling. He's gotten smashed the past two weeks
13:11But Jameis Winston is such a tough quarterback Ben to bet an under with because you understand this
13:16He's just gonna throw it all over the place good and bad, which means interceptions, which means touchdown passes
13:22But understand this from a Pittsburgh Steelers perspective
13:25Their goal is not in college football to stay like in the top 12 and have an impressive victory if they win this seven to
13:31Six, it'll be one of the best wins of their season Thursday on the road against a division rival that you tend to dominate
13:36I don't know for getting the high-flying theatrics from the Steelers offense. This sounds like let's not make mistakes here
13:42Cleveland is a bad football team
13:43Let's get a win any way we can because that high of the win on Sunday against the Ravens
13:48You can't lose momentum with a terrible loss against the Browns. That's how I'm looking at this game, Ben
13:53My natural inclination DRS to see that total earlier in the week in the mid 30s
13:59Was what Pittsburgh has gone over and four of their five wins here in a row will continue to break down Thursday night
14:06Next we get you ready for a week number 12 and a Thursday night football game in
14:11division in the AFC North tonight in the land between the Browns and the Steelers again back to the total and
14:18the number three and a half point spread in favor of the Steelers who are eight and two and sit atop the AFC North a
14:25Cover in all eight wins that total on its way up
14:2937 and a half but again, we are expecting wind and rain
14:33It may be a little bit of a wintry mix gusts up to 40 miles per hour
14:40sustained winds anywhere around
14:4223 to 25
14:44miles per hour
14:45Every offense around the National Football League DRS will tell you the thing that impacts game plan and offensive flow more than anything
14:53It's not rain. It's not snow. It's wind and to your point about Jameis Winston and a total in the mid 30s
15:00I was like, absolutely not
15:02I'm going to bet the over in this game when I first saw it
15:05But if they are unable to pass the ball efficiently or effectively and they turn to the ground game
15:11I still think I lean under tonight
15:14And again, nobody's gonna fault you for that too if this was a Sunday game in bad weather
15:18Maybe be a little bit tougher because you get that extra week of preparation to get a little bit more relaxed
15:22You're coming off your games last week, but that's not the case
15:25It's a Thursday football game and quite frankly, these teams aren't used to playing yet in the cold weather in the messy weather
15:31So it's almost like it's gonna be the first time for each one of these teams to say, you know what look at this
15:34It might be rainy might be slippery. How do we handle it?
15:37A little bit tougher and also as I said previously
15:39We're not looking for a showmanship win out of the Pittsburgh Steelers 13 to 9
15:44They would love to get out of there secure that victory and keep moving along in their season
15:49Now granted the Cleveland Browns do would love to pull the upset on the Pittsburgh Steelers as a hated rival
15:53Don't do it that often
15:54So this would be a big shock but also understand the you know test at hand the Steelers are playing for a lot
16:00It's hard for an NFL team. Like hey, let's just play the spoiler and we're not even in the month of December at Thanksgiving yet
16:06That's terrible. That's just a bad football team. I would be surprised. Yes. He was lost this game
16:10But at the same time, I'm not really running to the window to lay the three-and-a-half
16:14But I do agree with you probably more of a lean towards the under but again
16:18The worst under quarterback in the history of football to me. I don't care
16:22What he is with his over under you say Jameis Winston where you say like Baker Mayfield
16:26Let's take the under that sends shivers down your spine man. It does I
16:30Would agree fifth total this year for Pittsburgh sub 40 under in the first two over in the previous two
16:37I'll tell you why in just a moment lowest total of the year on paper
16:41For Cleveland their previous two totals that were under the number of 40
16:46stayed under that pregame total Cleveland an underdog in seven of ten games this year to
16:52Outright victories as a dog in Jacksonville
16:55And of course the upset over Baltimore and Jameis Winston's first start of the season just three and four
17:02against the spread the only cover in any of the eight L's this year for
17:06Cleveland a couple of weeks ago against the Philadelphia Eagles in the game that the Sean Watson was
17:13Injured Pittsburgh not just covering in all eight games this year DRS
17:17But as a favorite post Ben Roethlisberger that starts in
17:212022 12 and 7 against the spread which is really good
17:26In fact second best in the NFL in that span only behind
17:31The best cover team in the National Football League in the last two and a half three and a half years
17:36That being the Detroit Lions
17:38So as we look now at the evolution of this Pittsburgh team
17:42one of the reasons the RS again that I looked at the total in the mid 30s early this week and said
17:47No chair, I'm betting me over because of what Pittsburgh has been with Russell Wilson you can see the numbers
17:54It wasn't bad with Justin Fields. They were winning football games
17:57They have won all football games with Russ as the starter averaging more than 27
18:03Points per game up by nearly a touchdown from the offensive and scoring production
18:08Earlier in the year as I said fifth total of the season for Pittsburgh
18:13Sub 40 first two under when field started the second two with Russ under center
18:19Both have gone well over and also take a look at Cleveland the way they played their games this year remove the Ravens game at
18:2629 points. Let's just say that's the you know, the outlier at this point
18:2917 18 15 16 13 16 14 10 and 14
18:36That's the points numbers here for the Cleveland Browns now
18:39Yes, a lot of that was under Deshaun Watson
18:41Well
18:41but the past two games
18:4210 points and 14 points at a Jameis and also keep in mind stripped down of a lot of good football players that have either
18:48You know been injured and or been traded ala Amari Cooper. It's not a great team
18:53They're gonna go up against a very good pass rush for the Pittsburgh Steelers
18:56That's going to be pinning their ears back and Arthur Smith in a game like this is not being told by Mike Tomlin
19:02Get out there. Let's get three touchdowns in the first half and run away with this game
19:06It's let's get in the field goal range to use our kicker who makes every single kick
19:10Which again will be tougher to make kicks in this environment outdoors in this weather
19:15Everything is pointing to an under outside of just saying the name
19:19Jamie Swinson at this point you see the team totals and you say, you know what Donnie you like team totals
19:23How about the Steelers to score 21 points?
19:25It does make sense until you realize you're probably going to need the full three touchdowns, but also three extra points in this weather
19:32There's nothing worse than saying Donnie. How did it go? We scored three touchdowns. I missed one extra point. I lost my team total
19:39That's terrible to have it have so even that twenty and a half feels like a trick number for the Pittsburgh Steelers
19:45And you know, it's a little bit interesting about Pittsburgh's new OC Arthur Smith and his three years in Atlanta as their offensive
19:53Schemer as well. He was often
19:56People got mad at him
19:57Especially when Bijan Robinson came to the a for not running the football enough
20:01The Steelers are running the football at fifty two and a half percent of their plays
20:05Second most rushing play percentage second the highest rushing play percentage only behind
20:11Philadelphia, so how does the weather how does the game plan affect the props for tonight Russell Wilson?
20:17186 and a half Jameis Winston 217 and a hook. That's Jameis Winston football, baby
20:23Mine is 198 to throw a pick
20:26By the way
20:27He's probably gonna throw a pick but also that 217 and a half like if I think the Steelers are winning
20:31The mo shouldn't be for Cleveland. Let's run the football
20:33Like you're trying to just do a little bit of a spark in your season not keep the game close
20:38So that Jameis number is quite interesting because I do think he's gonna throw it all over the place
20:43The question is how many of those will be completed to his own team is going to be the question mark and also I know we're
20:48Gonna talk about this game a little bit more in the next segment. I got a Joe Friso special in this one
20:52That's paying out at a big price right now on the fan blue sports book in the props market here. How about that T? Oh, oh
20:59Everybody's getting down with the numbers. By the way, Jameis Winston. It is three starts at least
21:05235 yards in the win against the Ravens 334 last week against the Saints
21:10395 six touchdowns to three interceptions all three
21:14Int's in that loss to the Chargers who are the best scoring defense in the NFL?
21:20Pittsburgh's second best scoring defense more on the props and the Joe Frito special
21:25We continue to look at the prop market for a Thursday night football game that only features a total of 37 and a hook
21:32And some gnarly weather expected tonight in Cleveland
21:36So Donnie naturally the thought would be all right
21:38Both running backs are going to have a lot of usage and production tonight
21:43Najee Harris, the number is actually rather minimal sixty six and a half Nick Chubb
21:4952 and a hook. How are you approaching the ground game tonight in front of the dog pound?
21:54It's kind of tough because when you when you look at the and again
21:57It's based on a season here right pro football focus the second ranked run defense in the NFL the Cleveland Browns
22:02So it sort of fits the mo words if you're gonna have a sloppy game
22:06You're gonna try to run the football
22:07But you're not exactly trying to abuse a weakness on the opposing team's defense as opposed to throwing it around and then again
22:13Arthur Smith isn't gonna throw it around tonight. This game will probably much closer to the vest
22:17It's just a matter of how Cleveland actually plays
22:19But if we're looking at the two starting running backs, right Najee Harris sixty six and a half
22:23Sometimes you keep it simple. He's gonna be running the football in the second half because they'll probably have the leader will be close
22:28He's a talented running back. I understand that Nick Chubb on the opposite side how long we have the lead for but also
22:33Maybe you don't have to have the lead you're not down two and three scores where it's like a they can't run the football anymore
22:38You just have to pass but the way I'm actually approaching the running back position is not from an actual ground game
22:44It's actually from the air and you don't need a lot yesterday
22:47You take a look at some of these running backs and saying okay, who would you lean towards?
22:50Is it Najee in the past game? Is it Nick Chubb in the past game? No, it's not
22:53It's Jalen Warren. He was 13 and a half his reception prop yesterday today. It's 14 and a half
22:58The reason I bring this up is if we are looking at maybe it will be a little bit testy throwing the football downfield
23:04What's a quarterback's best friend in bad weather snap the football pass rush comes dump it off to the running back
23:09I think Jalen Warren from a running back perspective for me gets most of my attention not even in the running game
23:15But the passing game here, but I can't fault you if you take Najee. He's gonna get the carries
23:19The one thing you're not gonna have been at the end of this game is like man
23:22I took Najee only got nine carries in this game
23:24No, he's gonna have a significant amount of carries which should get him to 66 and a half
23:27But as I pointed out one of the better run defenses in the NFL, it's the Cleveland Browns
23:32So sort of a tough uphill climb there for me
23:34To start off this five-game win streak Najee Harris above the century mark in three consecutive
23:40He has had less than 70 in the last two Jalen Warren for consecutive games of at least 41 yards on the ground
23:48His rushing yards prop 33 and a hook into your point DRS 15 plus receiving yards in three in the last four for Warren as
23:56Well, nobody has been happier to see Russell Wilson as his starting quarterback
24:00Then the guy that leaked that rust was going to be the starter for Pittsburgh
24:04That's George Pickens 58 and a half his receiving yards prop tonight
24:09Yeah, and again, that's what you're trying to struggle with
24:12You know, George Pickens is going to get the bulk of that deep shots down the sideline. What can you fact even it's bad weather
24:18Maybe they don't want to pass the football
24:20But you know
24:20He's getting at least three of those 40-yard lobs down the sideline with a legitimate chance to go under but also if you're saying and
24:26This is sometimes comes into it
24:28I'm not going to be betting this game early and I've done this a few times this year when I hear weather is in the
24:33Forecast I need to get eyes and boots on the ground at some of those pregame telecast where it's like
24:38Oh, it looks terrible or the rain is coming down or an updated weather saying, you know it by the second quarter
24:43You're not gonna be able to see the TV screen. There's gonna be so much wind rain and or snow here
24:47That's a factor
24:48Are you looking from a Browns perspective as opposed to George Pickens being the number one where a Jerry?
24:53Judy is called the bulk of that and how much throwing will they actually do for me?
24:57It seems like it will be spread out just a little bit more Pratt Friar moved 18 and a half yards again bad weather short
25:03Throws they make the most sense to me
25:05but if you are looking from the opposite side David the joke of 45 and a half maybe but I do think Jerry Judy has a
25:10chance at 47 and a half to maybe break one where it's like a
25:1325 or 30 yard play to sort of eat into that chunk at 47 and a half and you know
25:18Jameis Winston is gonna be throwing it all over the place not all that high on this game from a wide-out perspective
25:23But if I had to lean on one, it's probably Pickens getting the bulk of those deep ball shots tonight for the Steelers
25:29I'm just not overly high on the passing game tonight given the weather given my thoughts on it
25:34but Cedric Tillman has gone over his number in four consecutive games including all three at with Jameis Winston as the
25:42Starting quarterback had 75 plus in the first two Jameis Winston starts last week
25:47It was a big Jerry Judy game in the big easy
25:51142 yards and a touchdown
25:5389 yard touchdown grab that big play threat one of the longest passing plays in the history of this Cleveland
26:00Organization so an AFC North divisional tool last week's win for Pittsburgh against Baltimore was their first
26:07Divisional game of the year and Donnie they now have a game and a half lead for the top spot
26:12You would expect eight and two record game and a half lead direct head-to-head tiebreaker
26:17Against the team you are battling for first place with you probably be minus 500 to win the division
26:23It's only minus 160. Will the Steelers hold on will Pittsburgh win the AFC North?
26:29Yeah, I do think Pittsburgh has a legitimate chance
26:32But you're talking about a tough schedule for the Steelers on out, but also a tough schedule for the Ravens
26:36Give me the Pittsburgh Steelers at this point and I'll leave this before the break
26:39Najee Harris, I'm gonna ult him ult him to over 40 often
26:45That's good more the other line next live right here on the early line it is a Thursday
26:50It is our number three. We continue to preview Thursday night football that kicks off week number 12
26:57Starting tonight in Cleveland supposed to be some gnarly weather on the banks of Lake Erie
27:02Between the Browns and the Steelers and what could look to be an old-fashioned
27:07AFC North battle. What is the best bet? We'll hear from the people in just a matter of moments
27:12We'll get the prop perspective with Tom Vecchio in the second half of this final hour
27:17And of course our final breakdowns and picks before we head in to this Thursday
27:23Afternoon DRS one final hour in store. It's been a fun show so far today. I can only expect
27:3058 minutes
27:32Absolutely, we're gonna keep that energy high for our number three, even though we might have some bad mojo weather in Cleveland
27:38It's me. We can't find those winners
27:39So we're gonna make sure we find those and keep the level high
27:42Laughs, maybe a couple laughs in our number three. You never know. You never know. Yeah, I
27:47I
27:49Absolutely believe that is going to be the case just looking at a couple things that our producer Joe Friese
27:56I was set my way. What's he trying to get an MBA our number three? What's he doing?
28:00Oh, well, you know, you know, we've got a couple of college basketball games to talk about today officially begins like a
28:07We're gonna have games, you know
28:10We're gonna have games in hotel ballrooms
28:13It is the beauty of feast week in the early slate of this college basketball season
28:18I didn't want to make sure that Syracuse in Texas at the Barclays Center was there tonight a couple of NBA
28:23Handicaps to break down with your two premier NBA handicappers on this network
28:28But before all of that DRS, we wanted to hear from the people
28:32Of course Thursday night football the start of week number 12 the Steelers on a five-game win streak
28:37The Browns just two and eight but looking to play spoiler in the AFC North once again
28:42Like they did three weeks ago against the Baltimore Ravens. So what is the best bet for Thursday night football?
28:48That's what we had to ask you in faith the public
28:58At sports grid on Twitter, what is the best bet for Thursday night football?
29:03Is it the Steelers lay in a field goal and a hook on the road in Cleveland the Browns as the home underdog the over
29:1036 and a half or the under
29:1236 and a hook the overwhelming majority DRS more than 48 percent of the votes back in the Steelers on
29:19The road it makes sense. Pittsburgh is one five games
29:22They are eight and two sitting atop the AFC North with a cover in all eight victories this season
29:29Yes, and here's what we're looking at from this poll, right?
29:32You have one good football team one bad football team
29:34I think you know where those votes are probably going and if we told you in an environment where you're having colder temperatures a chance
29:40Of snow rain sleet and wind you probably figure where most of the public is going and you can't fault them for that
29:47Also, if we're taking a look at this game where you think it's a bad football team in September early October
29:51There's still a lot to play for in this game
29:53The Steelers have everything to play for Cleveland nothing to play for outside of we're taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers their rival
30:00And yes, we would like to beat them
30:01So for myself the minus three and a half and the 48 percent of the current votes coming in
30:06That's the way I went with the Steelers minus three and a half
30:08I can't honestly say well, I don't know if the Browns can win, but I think they can keep it close ludicrous
30:14I know I should say I think I know the Steelers gonna win this game
30:18So if that line is three and a half, I got to take the Pittsburgh Steelers
30:22DRS they are 12 and 7 that being Pittsburgh since the start of
30:262022 against the number as the favorite side the reason I referenced 2022 that's post Big Ben era in
30:34Pittsburgh they are the second best cover team when booked as a favorite in the last two and a half years
30:39Which might be surprising to some because you think of the Steelers you think of last week field goal
30:44Underdog and a divisional tool winning a game. They were
30:48unexpected to
30:49Outright the Steelers are a perfect for no straight up this year as the underdog but four and two both straight up and against
30:57The spread as the favorite this season again five consecutive wins for Pittsburgh four straight with Russell Wilson
31:03Undercenter a cover in all four of those total at 36 and a half
31:09I voted for and have already bet the under when it was 35 and a hook earlier this week again
31:15Not just wait or not just rain and potentially some snow and a wintry mix
31:19Tonight on the shores of Lake Erie in front of the dog pound but a lot of wind
31:24sustained gusts
31:26Sustained winds at 23 to 25 miles per hour gusts up to 40 miles per hour
31:31And if you can't run against Pittsburgh
31:33Trusting in Jameis Winston to throw the football a ton to try to keep Cleveland in this game or put points up on the board
31:40Might be a precarious situation
31:42No, and it might be and you're right and sometimes we overblow the weather situation
31:46Which I'm hoping is going to be the case on it because then you can get some
31:49Advantages there in the passing game and or the running game and certainly just the score points
31:53But for me, you know, I'm gonna be stacking up some alt parlays which you're going to get good numbers
31:57Here's the thing. We take a look at his handicappers. Yes. We love games that we expect a lot of points
32:02Let's just say this number was 52 and a half tonight
32:05Well, then the prop bets would be adjusted accordingly instead of getting low 60s for starting running back
32:10You're getting high 80s and low 90s for a wide receiver such as George Pickens instead of being in that 50 to 60s range
32:15You're looking at 70s to 80s. So you can sort of manage those expectations where you don't need a big night
32:21We're talking about like your quarterbacks good quarterbacks and Russell Wilson under 200 yards
32:26Jamie Swinson who you know his game plan is not I want to hand the football
32:30I want to throw it all over the place whether or not I have good wide receivers or if I'm playing a good defense or
32:35Not so you do get those discounted bargains
32:37You just have to look in the right spots today and for me handicapping this game again
32:41I think the Steelers win
32:42I think there's a chance this game stays under but I need to get my eyes on these
32:46Forecasts once they come into real time an hour to an hour and a half before the game and also the best part about this
32:52Penalty fan those sports book betting live game situations. If you see the rain is starting to come down
32:57Yes, you can bet unders if you see the rain is cleared up as a look
33:00We might have a clear window for the next hour and a half
33:02Maybe you start to bet some of those in-game overs. So there are ways to approach this game
33:06We can make some money. It makes some sense
33:08And the boys will be live tonight. That's Donnie, right? Oh, yeah. Oh
33:14Oh the boys are live right now people you see that B double-s cuts out
33:18He's yes, let's give a good promo right now. The boys will be live in studio pro football today in-game live going over this game
33:25And certainly you're gonna want to watch this one because as I pointed out you are going to get the pregame analysis that you absolutely
33:31Need but doing the in-game analysis, you're also going to get that where you can level up and try to make some money
33:37But let's be honest about this game and the situation and the season here for the Pittsburgh Steelers. We've said so many times
33:43I think Pittsburgh's going to win tonight
33:45but if you're looking on the season that then elevates them to their ninth win of the season and
33:49Every game is gonna be so meaningful for them going up against the Baltimore Ravens
33:53But look at the schedule as it plays out here for them the Browns in the game tonight
33:58I think they win then you're going to get the Bengals followed by the Browns again
34:02but look at this run at the Eagles at the Ravens chiefs and then the
34:08Bengals to end the season and by the way
34:10Don't throw the Bengals out just yet because if the Bengals can absolutely beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in two weeks where the Bengals are coming
34:17Off for by that's huge and then get them to wrap around the end of the season, you know me
34:21I'm still very high on the Pittsburgh Steelers
34:24But that schedule is not going to do you any favors and if we're just focusing on the Baltimore Ravens and where they need to be
34:30It's no cakewalk for them either
34:32The Ravens currently sit at seven and four trying to chase down the Pittsburgh Steelers whom they've lost to in the previous week
34:39Look at their schedule on the road against the Chargers the Philadelphia Eagles. You're gonna get a layup against the Giants
34:44But how about this Steelers Texans two of those three games to end the season?
34:50Theoretically if they don't play well, we're talking about the Baltimore Ravens
34:54That's troublesome seven and four could turn into seven and five this weekend
34:58Then you get the Eagles which could turn into seven and six and keep in mind that Eagles game
35:02You talking about the Ravens play Monday night football on a short week on the road where you?
35:08Absolutely have to fly back and play them. That could be a tough spot here, but I'm looking forward to tonight
35:13I think Russ has a solid game Arthur Smith calls a complete game for the Pittsburgh Steelers
35:18And I just think Jameis Winston is probably gonna turn the football over a little bit too much
35:22Give me the Pittsburgh Steelers to cover the three-and-a-half and I'm gonna invest a little bit later in some of these prop bets
35:27It's the early line. It's Thursday morning. We continue our fun next don't go anywhere TV
35:34Tom Vecchio on a Thursday to provide the prop
35:37perspective for a new week around the National Football League as it starts tonight in
35:42Cleveland the Steelers and the Browns in AFC North battle Pittsburgh holding on to that top spot in
35:49The division Vecchio how you're gonna spend your Thursday night knowing you're not gonna be in studio with Donnie
35:55Right side in place of Joe Lisi alongside Kevin Walsh
35:59Of course, we know you're on the pregame and the postgame show for everything on Thursday night football
36:04But how you gonna watch the game without Donnie, you know chirping you to your right?
36:09I'm gonna watch it rooting in Najee Harris TD. That's where I'll be on tonight, but
36:15you know what, hopefully I'm a good luck charm for that as well as I was last week for the Eagles because apparently every time
36:20The Eagles play and Joe Lisi is there they lose
36:25Every Eagles game ball, like you said, we're in for a classic AFC North matchup. There's also a lot of weather tonight
36:32So we are in for certainly a game that may feature a lack of scoring
36:37So Becky I think it's a great point too because the weather does impact any
36:41Handicap you take into a football game at this point of the year. It is late November
36:46We're one week out from Turkey Day
36:48but as Donnie has said we've had some great weather all season long both in college and
36:54NFL football not really tonight at least based on the predicted forecast temperature about
37:0125 30 degrees Fahrenheit winds around 23 to 25 miles per hour
37:07Some rain into a wintry mix on the shores of Lake Erie in gusts up to 40
37:14miles per hour
37:15so Becky as you dive into the numbers to see Pittsburgh as a three and a half point favorite and a total for a
37:22Short week Thursday night game at only 36 and a hook and you take the weather into your handicap. Where do you begin?
37:29It's certainly tough, you know, we would like to say that Russell Wilson and
37:34Winston especially Winston has been throwing the ball like a lot at high volumes actually was pretty good last week
37:39You would like to say they get to 200 yards each like we're not expecting a whole lot
37:43But that may not be the case tonight and this could be a big ground game for both teams and granted
37:49You know, Nick Chubb hasn't done a whole lot. He hasn't been rushing at a high rate
37:52He hasn't been rushing in a high volume like they may need him and
37:57Jerome for to step up to do things alongside nausea Harrison Jalen Warren
38:00So if you were a fan of running backs
38:02This is the game to work in some type of I don't know same game parlay where everyone's going for like 25 plus yards
38:08Something around there like that's what we could be looking at
38:10I know a lot of people want to be interested in David and Joku, which I am personally or George Pickens on the other side
38:16Cedric Wilson like these players that need to step up. They may not actually be seeing a high rate of passing tonight
38:22So the weather and the short week the tough defense, especially on the Pittsburgh side impacts everything tonight
38:28It is gonna have an impact just look at some of the weather reports here
38:31It does look like the major part of the winds will be after the game if that makes sense
38:35Winds anywhere between 10 to 15 miles an hour during the game
38:38But once you start to look at that time where it's like 11 p.m. 12 p.m
38:42Which the game will probably over that's when it starts to increase 15 to 20 miles per hour
38:46Which always makes it interesting because wind can change at any time. Hey, it looks like it's gonna be after the game
38:51Maybe picks up early third quarter one team has a lead
38:53That's something to play off of which brings us right to the quarterback props
38:56Jameis Winston 217 and a half as his passing prop Russell Wilson in a game where his team is favorite is
39:03186 and a half and if you're looking for passing touchdowns, you are getting some bargains here tonight now granted the juice is heavy
39:09But we typically look Tom at one and a half touchdown passes both of the quarterbacks on Fandle today
39:14Listen at a half of a touchdown pass Winston minus 240 and Russell Wilson minus 235
39:19How do we play the quarterbacks tonight?
39:22No, I don't mind going over on attempts for Wilson or
39:28Winston just because they may be short passes and I think that could you know impact of who we target in the passing game and
39:34I gotta be honest
39:35I don't mind the Russell Wilson over TD because I have more faith in the Steelers their ability to move the ball down the field
39:41And whether they get to the five or the ten-yard line and hopefully nausea Harris rushes one in but then maybe Pat farming steps
39:46Up over that's where you get George Pickens
39:48Oh, look, I don't mind getting one touchdown out of Russell Wilson, but him flying over his number getting, you know, 250 yards
39:54That's not something I see happen when it comes to James Winston again
39:56If they're gonna be playing from behind and we know that the Steelers rush defense is awesome
40:00They're only allowing I was at 90 rushing yards per game this season
40:03So if they're not able to move the ball on the ground and get Nick Chubb isn't as effective as he once was
40:08The attempts for Winston could be there even if they're gonna be short attempts
40:13Mm. Yeah, absolutely. So and you're going to trust in Jameis to throw the football
40:17You see that number minus 198 to throw an interception, but in two of the three games Winston has been clean
40:24It's just that he threw three interceptions two Sundays ago
40:28against the LA
40:29Chargers good running defenses on both sides
40:31But Beck you'll give it a win and whether we can expect a hefty ground attack, especially for Pittsburgh
40:39What is your approach to either Najee Harris or Nick Chubb tonight?
40:43It's got to be Harris gotta be Harris TD Harris over 66 and a half yards
40:48He's 63 plus in four last five games. He's been over a hundred yards three times. He's going to be on the ground side
40:54That's what they want to do and you know, whether it's the matchup
40:57We saw case him he'll run all over the Browns last weekend
41:00I'm not saying that
41:01Najee Harris is the same type of runner or they'll be scheming up the same type of plays as taste of Hill had last week
41:06But Camaro still had a big game
41:07I think this is the spot for the Steelers just to go as straightforward as possible and pick up a divisional win pick up a spot
41:13where
41:14that the
41:15Ravens are certainly in a difficult matchup on the road versus the Chargers and this is the chance for them to like grab a little
41:20Bit of breathing room theoretically light, especially if the Ravens do lose. This is a big game for the Steelers
41:25So I want to get Harris TD Harris over the 66 and a half yards Chubb the attempts. I'm interested in Chubb
41:32He hasn't been up that I even in the 15 attempts this season. So I'm a little bit hesitant on that
41:36He's gonna play a role and again Jerome forward will also play a role for the Browns tonight
41:41Let's take a look at some of those wide receivers out here George Pickens the leader in the clubhouse at the handle sportsbook and yardage
41:47tonight listed at 58 and a half the leader here for the Cleveland Browns Jerry Judy at
41:5147 and have closely followed by Cedric Tillman and David Najoku from a wide receiver perspective Tom
41:56We focused more on the Steelers or the Cleveland Browns here
42:00You know, I think it's got to be the Browns for me
42:03I think a lot of people will be interested in George Pickens, especially going to his touchdown project
42:08Is it sitting up at plus 220?
42:09But again, I'm not sure how many yards he get there so I can see him going under his yards under his receptions
42:14But still getting it to a touchdown again
42:15I said I have faith that the Steelers move the ball downfield David and joke who I really like tonight and again
42:19The weather is going to play an issue but 44 and a half receiving yards
42:23I think is a number he should be able to get to he has a low 4.58 dot
42:27So he's really not getting too deep downfield
42:29So if we're gonna be working with these shorter passes again, they don't want the wind to impact the passing
42:33This is where Winston could look also factor in Oh TJ Watts on the other side
42:37So we're going to be bringing the pressure if the Browns are forced into this passing game script
42:42So he's gonna have to get the ball out quickly and that's where David and joke will come into play
42:45So it's kind of twofold with the weather and just the good Steelers defense on the other side
42:5081 yards on nine grabs nine targets for a joke who last week when James threw for nearly
42:563,400 in New Orleans Cedric Tillman another guy that has gone over his number tonight with at least
43:0247 yards in all three starts that Jameis Winston has made it is difficult Vecchio to have a real
43:09understanding of how lethal a passing attack even with Jameis Winston can be given some of the
43:14Projected weather and wind tonight in Cleveland. Let's show the top props just to run through it one more time
43:20Vecchio honed out on these numbers and exactly why we're betting all of these tonight for Thursday night
43:27Yeah, I would also say that there's a good
43:30Way to approach to Harris, you know Harris TD plus a Steelers victory in the same game parlaying you up at about plus 160
43:38I think that's relatively straightforward. You want to add in the yards want to subtract one of those?
43:42I think there's multiple different ways to attack being high on Najee Harris tonight again
43:46That's the way I want to go. I also we also gotta say like the Steelers defense
43:50They're gonna be live for a touchdown tonight, right?
43:52I've been plus 650 just in the fact that the weather James throwing interceptions like the pressure with TJ
43:57Well, like I think the Steelers defense is absolutely live for a touchdown tonight
44:01I don't want to be betting on kicker props as I know a lot of people like to do but the wind would factor things
44:05In so back away from those maybe take a little bit of a sprinkle on a Steelers defensive touchdown tonight
44:10Vic Vecchio finally here looking at the AFC North Pittsburgh eight and two game and a half lead in front of Baltimore
44:16And currently the direct head-to-head tiebreaker against the Ravens
44:20Of course this a divisional duel the Browns have already beaten Baltimore
44:23Once this year when all is said and done at the end of the season who wins the AFC North
44:29It's gotta be the Steelers
44:30The wins the tiebreakers their strength to schedule moving forward
44:34They have a chance to pick up a big win tonight
44:35And I think the Ravens have some tough matchups coming up. I will certainly look them to make the playoffs but not win the division
44:42Listen neither of those two teams an easy slate to end out
44:46The year is going to be important to see how it plays out TV Tom
44:50We appreciate the time as always more for Thursday night
44:53Yeah live right here on the early line on sports grid. It is a Thursday
44:58That means the start of a new week in the National Football League week
45:01Number 12 kicks tonight in Cleveland between the Browns and the Steelers divisional duel in the AFC North
45:08Pittsburgh in first in the division with a eight and two record five
45:12consecutive wins all four with Russell Wilson as their starting quarterback a cover in all for a
45:18Cover in all five on the win streak. In fact a cover in all eight victories this season
45:25Meanwhile for Cleveland DRS another disappointing season that entered with optimism two and eight and only one
45:32Cover in any of those eight losses this year about a month ago
45:37Against Philadelphia we have talked a lot about the weather as you shared with in the last hour
45:42some of the winds dipping down a little bit during the actual game 10 to 15 miles per hour, which is going to be
45:50Helpful, but rain and some sleep and some snow
45:54Expected throughout Thursday night football knowing the weather
45:58Knowing the numbers three and a half point spread in favor of the Steelers total at 36 and a half
46:03How do you approach this short week Thursday night game?
46:06Still gonna be with the Pittsburgh Steelers and you know me usually my mo is home team or no team on Thursday nights
46:11but you know this year a little bit different been betting some of those road teams and having some success and I think it
46:15Continues because how much of a fight do we have from the Cleveland Browns tonight?
46:19They're gonna be a lot of Steeler fans in those stands and also if you're Cleveland
46:22Yes, you want to see your favorite team beat the Pittsburgh Steelers
46:25But also are you selling your tickets because you don't even want to sit out there in the rain sleet and wind tonight
46:30There's probably a factor going into that
46:32But I also do think that the Steelers are built in more equipped in the bad weather then let's per se the Cleveland Browns
46:38Usually it's the great equalizer been like hey, give me some rain. Give me some wind take the underdog
46:42That's not what the Steelers want to do
46:43Russell was me more than happy to throw the ball 19 times in this game tonight have a couple completions
46:48Don't turn it over run the football play good defense and come away with a victory and also you saw the past two games
46:52That Cleveland played after that Baltimore Ravens victory
46:55They've been atrocious on offense and giving up chunk yards on defense here
47:00The Steelers to me will win this game and you know, hey, I'm worried about that three-and-a-half if it's windy rainy conditions
47:06Are you really as worried about that three-and-a-half here? Maybe you don't kick as many field goals
47:10Maybe you miss an extra point or two
47:11So I don't look at that half point coming into it as you would maybe in a dome
47:15Situation if you think the Steelers are gonna win this game, you gotta be just laying the three-and-a-half
47:20Chris Boswell has been sensational this year for Pittsburgh Dustin Hopkins not as great on the other side
47:27For the Browns again Cleveland an underdog in seven of ten games two and five straight up three and four
47:33ATS Pittsburgh as a favorite since the start of 2022
47:38Second best cover team in the NFL 12 and 7 against the number only behind the Detroit Lions
47:44quickly on the quarterbacks DRS Russell Wilson number sub
47:48200 was great in his first two starts the numbers have trickled down a little bit but still
47:55Victories Jameis Winston over that in all three starts he has made for Cleveland
47:59But of course, I think the numbers incorporating the expected poor weather tonight
48:04Yes, and it does but you also are getting some discounts like sometimes you look and say, okay
48:08Well, I can't take those games in the those players individually to throw a touchdown pass
48:13But at the end of the game, but we're not talking about a total bent at 21 and a half
48:18It's still in the mid 30s, which means your expectations are four to five touchdowns in this game
48:23So why can't each one of those quarterbacks throw a single touchdown pass you parlay those together now?
48:28You start to cook with something that makes some sense and easily attainable
48:31but it's just a factor of how you think that game is going to play out because as I say
48:35I'm not gonna be betting a lot of props here early in the day until I see what the weather conditions are
48:40But if we're being honest, hey, look rain is one thing sleet is one thing
48:43But if you're gonna couple that with 25 mile-an-hour sustained winds, that's a tough night
48:47But if we're going to get 10 to 12 mile-an-hour winds for the majority of the game
48:51That's a normal football game anywhere. And yes, these players are played in rainy game situation
48:56So I don't want to completely shut the valve off for points tonight
48:59But sometimes you do get some of those game changes and betting it live makes all the difference
49:04How many times have you watched a game where you bet live in game because a player just got injured or a quarterback did hey
49:08That could change the complexion of the game. How about when a team takes offense in late third quarter?
49:13Look, wow, it's really raining now and the winds have really picked up
49:16We're not gonna say you know what now's the time to hit the gas pedal and take the team that's favorite to extend the lead
49:21Here some of those things will play out tonight
49:22I'm just hoping the weather isn't that bad because you might get some gems tonight if the weather isn't that all
49:28impactful as we think it could be
49:30It's a great point DRS. I bet the under 35 and a half earlier this week
49:34I'm not loving my number at the moment because of the updated wind reports
49:38I don't actually really care about rain or sleet or snow
49:42I care about wind and when earlier this week even this morning wind was projected around 25 miles per hour sustained
49:49Gusts up to 40 miles per hour. Great
49:52That's what impacts in offense the scheme the passing attack more than just some wet weather DRS
49:58you mentioned earlier in the show a
50:00Prop bet or a poor lay that our producer Joe Friso would adore. Yeah, I don't even know if we got to it
50:07Really? What is that number tonight?
50:09And now look if we are expecting some weather conditions on two teams, you know when established the ground game
50:14Let's just again the focus probably gonna Nick Chubb in the past couple years
50:17It would never be the focus but five yards a piece each quarter from the starting running backs Nick trouble one side and also on
50:24The other side not Jay Harris if they each get five yards per quarter rushing. That's plus 650
50:30That's not plus 120 plus 142 to 1 plus 650. That's it
50:34Like how do you want to open a game? It might be bad weather handing the football off
50:38Hey one guy gets six yards one guy gets seven yards and away you go now granted
50:42We understand how these things lose and they're never automatic
50:44But that price point again with a low total but low totals usually mean you want to run the football in bad weather
50:51Maybe it's something to look at for a fun bet plus
50:54650 if you can hit that bet
50:57And you would expect the ground game to be a priority
51:00Look at the attempts prop even Jalen Warren around eight and a half for his attempts
51:05Here are the wideouts that will factor in again to Donnie's point if the wind is not nearly as bad tonight on a Thursday
51:11You got a look to Cedric Tillman David and Joku George Pickens has had at least 74 receiving yards in
51:17Every start made with Russell Wilson the previous four Donnie the wide receiver named Keith Hardy. Does that mean anything to you?
51:26Keith hard. No, I don't know. Is that a
51:28Indiana maybe that a hardy come from Indiana. I don't know. No Keith
51:32No, I'm Hardy from 2000 to 2002 had a hundred and ten receptions at the pride of the Garden State
51:40William Patterson
51:45Yeah, yeah
51:47It's funny
51:49Slot receivers record Don Seymour who had 90-degree reception in his career
51:56Only to pale in comparison to Keith Hardy
51:59Yeah, by the way, I did get shafted on a couple of those catches there. So I go back on the tapes
52:03I had 12 catches against Keenan in 1998 not 10 catches
52:07So go back and rewind the tapes on that. I should have more numbers. They're ridiculous
52:12undercounted underwhelming
52:14This is all this event. See you Monday