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00:00But let's get back onto the phones. David and El Cerrito. Hi, David. Thank you for the call. What's up?
00:05Hey guys, first of all Pat Mahomes
00:07He scores the amount of points that he needs to to win. Nothing more. Nothing less
00:14It doesn't matter how many points the team has in the fourth quarter. However many points they need to score at the end
00:20That's the amount he usually gets. All right. So David, David, can I challenge you for a moment?
00:25So when the special teams blocked
00:28Denver's field goal attempt at the end of the game
00:31Then Patrick Mahomes scored the correct number of points. He was in position to win
00:38He was in position to win. That's fair. And they win, I'm not saying every game, but enough games all the time.
00:44So it was Brock Purdy, but Jake Moody missed his field goal in LA. Do you know what I mean by that?
00:50That's all I'm saying. Yeah, one team has double-digit wins and one team has low single-digit wins. Right, right.
00:57And I'm not going to give all of that credit to Patrick Mahomes, who's obviously a better player than Brock Purdy
01:04But if I'm pointing to problems about why we get here, there, whatnot, like again
01:10What does Patrick Mahomes have this year that Brock Purdy doesn't?
01:13It's actually a defense and a special teams that doesn't screw up at crunch time with what he's built
01:19I think he would do more
01:21I think he would do more if he felt he always had to do more. The game is always within reach for him
01:28And so he does what he has to do. He doesn't force it
01:30He doesn't have a ton of skill on that team on the offensive side of the ball yet. He's managing to get it done
01:36He's got Kareem Hunt who was sitting on the beach, you know, he's got an old tight end
01:40We see that a little we see on a weapon. We see that a little differently David
01:44I don't think Patrick ever grabs the ball on offense and says I don't need to score here
01:49Because we're up by three like I I I think that they would like to score more than they than they do right now
01:55I really do. That's that's what I think about the Chiefs
02:00And there's like I think we're arguing like who is the smartest idiot because the offense or the defense
02:06It seems like neither are really a lot and i'm really thinking not even about this season
02:11But like what is next season because next season feels like okay
02:17Sell the farm because you're going back into the next season with what you got this season
02:23Like I don't see I see the window almost shut not like there's another opportunity here
02:28And so now it's almost like okay
02:29What's down road because I see what's in front of me now, and this is not a championship football team anymore
02:35Well, it's interesting David. Thank you. I appreciate the back and forth. Do you see it that way like I to me?
02:41I I I must lean more toward
02:44Uh the gentleman who called in earlier and was like why can't next year sort of look like what the eagles have done
02:50Their thing fell apart last year now granted. They they signed saquon barkley
02:55That's a massive change and he might win the mvp award but like next year on defense
03:00Um, you're gonna have some new new blood. You'll probably sign some new players. You'll draft some new players
03:06Um, if nick is healthy and fred is healthy and what if dray greenlaw is re-signed and dray greenlaw looks kind of like himself
03:13Um lenore is now signed like I I actually don't think it's crazy to think
03:19That the core of the 49ers right now can be good again next year
03:24No doubt no doubt and I especially when you think about the schedule
03:28They'll be facing and let's just assume for now. That's a good point
03:31Let's assume for now that they wind up in fourth place in the nfc west which right now
03:35They're in fourth
03:37Put that aside for just a moment next year. You take on the afc south
03:41indy
03:42And uh, carolina, i'm, sorry indy and houston houston
03:47Jacksonville and tennessee, so that's your afc
03:50crossover pretty tasty
03:52And your nfc crossover is also against the south atlanta new orleans
03:58tampa
03:59And carolina, so those are your eight non nfc west games right there
04:05you've got a bonus game against uh, I think it's
04:09It's one of those teams tampa. Maybe someone in the afc
04:12It would be someone in a different afc division and then but that's and then you've got the nfc north last place
04:18Right and the nfc east last place so the bears and the giants, correct?
04:22So those are those are your opponents superbowl or bust am I right?
04:27And i'm just looking at that the bonus afc team is yet to be listed here on uh, fb schedules.com
04:33Your 17th game is yet to be listed probably won't know it yet, right?
04:37Based on where you finished so you've got the south and the south and a couple of last place teams
04:42So even if you do you might run it back you might play the raiders of the patriots or something, right?
04:47But even if you do decide to run it back, you're an already automatically better position because you don't have green bay
04:53You don't have buffalo. You don't have miami and you don't have detroit
04:57Um already those are off the schedule. You don't have minnesota. No doubt
05:01Uh director of sports lucas alexander, does dave live in in the city?
05:05I've never heard of frano or is there an s missing? There's an s. Okay. So dave in fresno. Uh, hi dave
05:11Thank you for calling
05:14Well, thanks for letting me uh talk to you guys
05:17I've been listening man. I've been listening all year. I've been listening to you the afternoon and the morning show
05:24And it's kind of the same thing. It's this pass for kyle shanahan
05:28And you have people callers like me and other people that come and give you facts
05:32To dispute your your love affair for kyle shanahan
05:36Which I don't understand
05:38You know, like he's he's vince lombardi and bill walsh all tied to one don't blame him. It's so insane
05:44It's the injury. It's the roster. It's this it's that I swear. It's it is mind-boggling
05:51Like are you guys on the table?
05:53I'm serious
05:54Dave, you're you're allowed to feel however, you want to feel but but please present it as an opinion
06:00Because it is if you have facts that you want to generate go ahead. I guarantee you I can generate mine, too
06:08I think that a bunch of nfc championship games and two super bowl appearances is impressive. I think that's a resume
06:15I think that deserves a little nod some don't that's fine, but present it as an opinion and i'd love to hear what yours is
06:23My i'll present facts
06:26Trailing it's happening on his watch saying no to tom brady happening on this watch
06:31Eight years being the coach of still having this qb question mark has happened on his watch and you want to blame
06:39Oh, we didn't have a good
06:41Leonard floyd and colin and campbell
06:45And and drafting players for scheme as opposed to talent because you say oh the eagles we can be like the eagles
06:51No, the eagles have a real gm. They draft players that are good
06:57We're going to draft them. We're not going to oh, he can't block down the field. He can't play on my team
07:02We're going to keep bringing wonnie bell back because he can block down the field in my system. It's my system
07:08Uh, it's my play sheet. That's all we need in life is my play sheet because I went to two super bowls
07:16I am good. I am living great
07:19There is nothing you can say about me I had mentioned as a ten yard to carry if you were asking
07:27Dave dave chill, you're in a super sarcastic phase and that's fine again
07:33You get to feel how you're going to feel but it's odd to me that you like throw out the two super bowl appearances
07:39And and that doesn't mean anything to you
07:41So you're giving all these facts and every football team and every fan can do this with their team
07:46They can make a list of all the things that have been messed up and my question would be where are you?
07:53Where is your same energy?
07:55For the things that did work
07:57Like you're going to list a bunch of players that were crap picks
08:01Where's your energy for warner and kittel and purdy and you said there's still questions at quarterback. That's your opinion
08:08It's not a fact. They don't think there's a quarterback question. They think they've got their guy. So do I socially so dave
08:16I have no problem
08:17If you want to tray lance me and and devondre campbell me javon
08:21Kinlaw javon kinlaw and and and solomon tot like you can do that all day and i'll hear you and I get it
08:29My only thing is where's your same energy?
08:33For the fact that they've hit on all kinds of things and have been
08:38Largely one of the class of the of the league teams for a five-year run. Where's your energy for that dave?
08:46Dave
08:48The ship don't fail do the writers on the wall look at him. That's not what I said dave
08:53That's not the question. I asked you
08:55Where's your energy for the achievement?
08:59Where is it dave?
09:01That that that doesn't give me anything that's all in the past that doesn't guarantee future success
09:08Nothing does it's not dumb. It's not dumb dave and and you're the one who took it to the future
09:14I'm not talking about the future
09:17I want to know because by the way, neither were you you sat here with i've got facts and you listed off a bunch of stuff
09:25That has happened in the past that you don't like but you have no energy
09:30For any of this success and you're giving me the philadelphia eagles as an example who also by the way
09:37Haven't won crap the last few years lost a super bowl
09:42Totally cratered out of the playoffs from a 10-in-one record last year
09:47That's all i'm asking. I'm, not even i'm not denying your point. I want to know where are you on the good stuff?
09:54Stop saying that everything they've done is bad because it's not
09:59Okay, my I forgot this was peewee football we gotta give
10:04Dave I don't want you know what you're not you don't want to fight a fair fight
10:07I like i'll give you trey lance. What a stupid thing. They did what a bunch of morons. Now you say something nice dave
10:16Well, we had mason but they put him on the ice like i'm frustrated because
10:22We had the opportunity to have a better season this year, but the head coach failed the situation
10:28We can we can you can give me the injuries and that's fine. But look at the game against buffalo. I'll give you
10:34Let me give you this look at buffalo
10:36We went right down the field to start the game 10 yards apart running the ball
10:40What do they do when they get towards the rest on this?
10:42They're throwing it like simple stuff like that. I shouldn't have to second guess the head coach
10:48Way more football than I do there you dave now. We're having a real conversation
10:53Thank you, dave
10:54Now we're having a real conversation. He's having a bad year
10:58Let's talk about it. He shouldn't have to second guess the head coach
11:01but
11:02Then don't well then don't you're allowed to because a lot of things he's done and I agree with dave about
11:08him putting jordan mason on ice and I said it right away when when
11:13McCaffrey came back and he got 93% of the snaps and 95% of the carries
11:18That didn't do any any favors of jordan mason
11:21No, two carries he had when he came in were for five and eight yards and that was it
11:25You got two carries and that was a wrap. I got no issue with that
11:29You want to say he's had a bad year you want to talk about actual games things that have happened
11:33But coming down the road with a list
11:35That's five years long of all the bad stuff and acting like everything's been terrible for five years
11:41You're not coming from a genuine place
11:43No, but you can point out the things that he hasn't done right and I think that's all he was doing
11:47I don't think that he was in the fire shanahan camp, but I look at this year
11:52And yes, he's had a bad year and there have been things that he's done wrong
11:55I think over the course of his time here
11:58So maybe it's time to bring in some help somebody who can I don't know draft a defensive lineman
12:04He started this conversation saying that we're on the payroll because this that and the other he's a cross between lombardi and bill
12:12Yeah, how do you like this guy? How do we like this guy?
12:15I mean, come on, that's all just be fair