CLNS Media’s Taylor Kyles joins The Athletic Football Show’s Derrik Klassen to break down Drake Maye’s top throws through 15 weeks of the NFL season, highlighting his standout plays and development as a rookie quarterback.
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00:00I am joined by Robert Griffin III, James Whitefield, Yates
00:09Mena Kimes. Alright, so first play we're going to look at
00:11second and two, one of the Patriots first offensive plays.
00:16What's going on everyone? Taylor Kyle's here for CLNS
00:20Media coming at you with another episode of Pats Daily
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00:24Game Time. Today, I'm joined by a familiar face. You all
00:28know him. You all love him. One of my absolute favorite
00:30people in this industry, Derek Klassen, co-host of the
00:33Athletics Football Show here to talk Drake May. We had the
00:37bye week. We're getting back into the swing of things this
00:39week, but I would have been remiss if I didn't sit down
00:42with you buddy and talk about what he's been doing because
00:45it's been remarkable. We've talked about him multiple
00:47times even before he was drafted and after and I don't
00:50think either one of us really expected how quickly he's
00:53evolved his game and grown. So this is going to be a really
00:55fun discussion. We're going to talk where he ranks among
00:57the other rookie quarterbacks, close out with what he can
00:59improve on, all that good stuff. We're going to be very
01:02thorough. So without further ado, my man, how are you doing?
01:05Welcome back to the show. I'm doing great. You know, I was
01:08like you said, we talked about him. I think before the draft
01:11early in the season and I was very excited for when we got
01:14to this point when it would be week 14, 15 when we can
01:17really settle down and talk about like, okay, we've seen
01:19him play a dozen or so games that we let's let's really
01:22dig into this thing. So I'm very excited that we're
01:24finally here and get to talk about a player that we thought
01:26was going to be good and is, uh, turns out he's pretty
01:28good. He is pretty good. And especially in a quarterback
01:31class among rookies, that's been very impressive. Jaden
01:34Daniels has looked good. Both nixes look good. Obviously,
01:37JJ McCarthy, unfortunately hurt, but a lot of these guys
01:39are impressing early on. So I'm curious from your
01:41perspective, Drake may obviously hasn't played as many
01:44games as those guys, very different situations and
01:46supporting cast. Where do you feel like he individually
01:49ranks among the other rookie quarterbacks? I think he's
01:54pretty definitively number one. Uh, I think obviously
01:58when you look at the numbers, it's Jaden Daniels and
02:00bonics are pretty clearly going to be ahead of him. Um,
02:03but I think when you watch the film, what Drake may is
02:05able to do, I think when you watch the film, you see
02:08more of what the Matthew Staffords, the Justin
02:11Herbert's, the Josh Allen's are doing. You can see
02:14the nuggets of it in terms of his pocket movement,
02:16some of his placement and aggressiveness, particularly
02:19over the middle of the field. Um, some of his
02:21athleticism, which I mean, bonics and Jaden Daniels
02:24also have that, but I do think you see it with him
02:26as well. So he, to me is just, you can say maybe
02:30that Daniels and Knicks have some degree of consistency,
02:33maybe within structure that those guys don't. I would
02:36also argue that particularly in Knicks cases, the
02:38structure is much better because John Payton is turns
02:40out still really good at this, but I just think that
02:43the peaks of what, uh, may gives you right now are
02:46unbelievable and what you search for in a top five,
02:48six quarterback. And then the floor has just been
02:50considerably higher than I thought in year one. I
02:52thought there would be a little bit more ups and downs,
02:54but I think what he's giving you down to down to that
02:56right now is really good. And Mike, we already talked
02:59about the improvements. Let's go a little deeper into
03:01that before we get into some film clips. What is it
03:03about his game that's most impressed you? Because we
03:05knew he had the arm talent. I think we both thought
03:07his pocket presence in the way he read defenses was
03:09more impressive than he really got credit for,
03:11especially as a guy who's 22 years old. This is his
03:14third year of starting experience. So what do you
03:17what do you see in this game that kind of made you
03:19go? Okay, hold up drink like year one. I didn't think
03:22we were going to quite see this young man. I think
03:25to me, it's two things. First of all, I would say I
03:28thought we would get more of the roller coaster play
03:33down to down throughout the course of the game. Now,
03:35I think late in some games, he's had some moments
03:37where it's like, all right, man, what are you doing?
03:39And I think some of that is just there down in the
03:41game and he's very willing to put himself in
03:43compromised positions to potentially make a play. I
03:46just thought we would get more of those plays like
03:48on a first and 10 in the second quarter that we just
03:51aren't really getting, which I think has been really
03:53impressive. And then to me too, I think the footwork
03:56stuff was always really overblown with him. And I
03:58think people thought that it would be like a problem
04:00forever. I did think it was like a thing that he
04:03would need to fix. And I said, I think before on
04:05this show, his drop back footwork, just getting one
04:07to two to three, making sure you have a stable base
04:09to get a timing right out. That was where I thought
04:12he struggled a little bit coming out of college. That
04:14to me, it's not been an issue almost at all in the
04:16NFL. You get maybe one play a game, which is more
04:19just in line with like normal rookie stuff than it
04:22is for like a particular, probably with him. So I
04:24think those are the two things that have been, you
04:27know, on the outcomes of what they could have been
04:29year one coming out of college, really on the high
04:31end for him. A hundred percent, especially with the
04:33footwork. Cause in the preseason and his first few
04:35starts, you did see, there was like the heel
04:37clickiness, his base was really narrow. So you're
04:40just like, there's no way that you're going to be in
04:42a position to throw the ball without having to waste
04:44body movement in time by getting yourself in a
04:46position. I don't know what it was, but really over
04:49the past like month and a half, you've seen, like
04:51you said, the base is wide, his footwork and his eyes
04:54are tied together. It's really been remarkable the
04:56way he turned the corner. And you mentioned kind of
04:58those like rollercoaster decisions when it came to
05:01sacks and the strip sacks, that's probably the one
05:03area where I was like, Drake, my guy, you can't
05:06keep doing this. The one against sealer where he
05:08tries to swim. I'm just like, that is the kind of
05:10thing I expect from like Caleb Williams, not from
05:12you, my guy, like you gotta cut that. But last week
05:15was his first game with no turnover worthy plays.
05:17And when you look at his interceptions, the worst
05:19one was the bears. It was like that Minnesota game
05:22where he just threw right to a defender on the
05:23sideline. You're like, I don't know what he saw
05:26there. Or I think he said he was trying to throw it
05:28away. I don't know what happened there, but like
05:30all the other interceptions, they're different cases.
05:32It's the first one against the Texas. Exactly.
05:34And actually all, I swear going into that game, I'm
05:36thinking, I know it's going to be like Brady in the
05:38Superbowls where he just throws one. That's so
05:40ugly because he's got the yips and he's kind of
05:42got to settle down. And that's exactly what we got.
05:44I was like, all right, it's out of the way. We're
05:46good. You know, he made the mistake. It's time, but
05:48it's always been different in a lot of them. It's
05:50hard to really say all, what do you think in there?
05:52It's more, he's a young guy. Just don't repeat the
05:55mistakes. And like Gerard Mayo says weekend and
05:57week out, he's done a great job of minimizing those.
06:00So without further ado, we've done a lot of talking.
06:02Let's get into some tape. My man, you got five clips
06:05of Drake may all good. We're going to touch on the
06:07bad, but it hasn't been a whole lot of bad. So we're
06:09just going to have a brief discussion at the end.
06:11But first clip brother, what do you got? We got.
06:14All right. Hold on. Let me, I think I, I think I
06:17control it. Okay. There we go. There we go. We're
06:19in here. Okay. So this was people talked a lot about
06:24his pocket movement and his sometimes unnecessary
06:27movement or what looks like unnecessary movement
06:29to me. I think he's always done a really good job
06:31of finding making throwing windows a little bit
06:34more easy, a little bit more accessible while also
06:36protecting himself. I thought this throw against
06:38the Titans was a really good example of that. So I'll
06:41run it. He goes, he gets through his drop back and
06:43you can see, I forget what the, who the receiver
06:46is here. It might be a cash on booty, but he's
06:48running like a 12 yard, 10 yard curl route. And he's
06:51going to try to stop in this void. There's a world
06:53where maybe may could just hitch up right there,
06:56throw it super early and try to get to him here.
06:58But because he's not really close to his break yet.
07:01I understand why may doesn't want to do that. And
07:04at the same time he feels, I think Jeffrey Simmons
07:06a terrifying human, by the way, to be running at
07:08you, he feels him, you know, kind of coming down
07:10the barrel here. So he sidesteps a little bit to his
07:13right to free up, to free access to this throwing
07:16lane and still has unbelievable arm talent to be
07:19able to fit this throw in. I mean, this is just
07:22to me, this is the combination of really good
07:24spatial awareness, really good understanding of the
07:27timing of the play and what he's actually seeing
07:29his receiver do. And then just having the physical
07:31talent to make good on it. I mean, that's just
07:33there's just not many guys who are able to make
07:35a throw like this. Like he's just really, really
07:37impressive in that way. The scramble touchdown was
07:40insane at the end of the game, but this might have
07:42been my favorite throw of his because like he's
07:44tight coverage. The window is not great. You're
07:46under pressure. You're on the move and he puts it
07:48right on Tayshawn's chest. I actually spoke to
07:50quarterbacks coach TC McCartney and I asked him
07:52because early on there were times where Drake
07:54would drift and he would end up getting himself
07:56in compromising positions where he was just getting
07:59like killed like taking ribs shots, really big
08:02hits. Sometimes, you know, you got to make a play
08:04and that's what happens. But I wanted McCartney's
08:06opinion. Like, you know, is he drifting too much
08:08for you or is it a pretty fair amount and he's doing
08:11what he's got to do? And he's like, yeah, no,
08:13obviously, you know, there's sometimes we can be
08:14better about it. But Drake has a very good feel of
08:17when to drift away from pressure. Like we talked
08:19about with his tape coming out of college. It was
08:21the same thing. So many times he would drift at
08:23one side or the other and it's like if you take
08:25that in a vacuum, sure, it's bad. But look where
08:27the pass rush is coming from or the blitzers are
08:29coming from. He consistently knew where they were
08:32and escape the rush. And that's been another thing
08:34that Alex Van Pelt has done an amazing job of is
08:36making sure his eyes are consistently in the right
08:39place where other than that Miami game, you don't
08:41see him getting killed by the blitz. You also don't
08:43see teams blitzing him a lot because they know if
08:45you miss or you leave a wide open void somewhere,
08:47he's going to exploit it. But that I love that
08:49throw. I'm glad you brought it up. Now, what's
08:51number two? Keep this train rolling. This one is
08:55actually a fairly simple. This just to me, a lot
08:58of people coming out of the draft said that he
09:00had some accuracy issues at times, which I always
09:04again, I thought was pretty overblown. This to me,
09:06I think it's just the touchdown that he throws
09:08kind of right in front of the corner to Austin
09:11Hooper. It's just the ball placement here is
09:14delicious. You cannot place that ball any better.
09:18It is right over 44 here. The linebacker like this
09:21isn't bad coverage. She's within arm length like
09:23you're making it a tough throw on the quarterback
09:25and obviously you don't want to throw it too far
09:27to where this ends up near the sideline. You don't
09:30want to throw it too high where it ends up near
09:31the safety for him to just layer this ball in the
09:34exact spot that makes it easy for his guy to make
09:37a little jump and go get it. This is a guy who
09:40consistently makes throws like this to the intermediate
09:43area of the field. And to me, if you look at all
09:46of the top quarterbacks in the NFL, you have to
09:48win 11 to 20 yards. May is already proving that he
09:51can win in that area pretty consistently this game
09:54specifically. I don't think he actually missed. I
09:56think he was like five for six. The only
09:58incompletion was a tip ball to Hunter Henry that
10:00would have gotten him into field goal range. I was
10:02just a great play by the defender. Other things
10:04Austin Hooper and him are starting to get a little
10:06bit of chemistry going. They had the deep scramble
10:08touchdown against Miami. They had another play just
10:11like this, but way deeper downfield against Chicago.
10:13Another one where Drake may put it where only his
10:15guy can get it. And I remember everybody was
10:18complaining about the Patriots going 12 personnel
10:20in the red zone early this season. I remember
10:22there was a play just like this where hunt Austin
10:24Hooper was one on one against the linebacker to
10:26Kobe looked right at him and didn't throw it. I'm
10:28like Kobe like it's a linebacker. He's he's not
10:31going to make a play on the problem. Just like
10:33give the guy a chance and I understood you Kobe
10:35wanted to be safe not make a lot of mistakes. But
10:38this is what Drake may gives you were when there
10:40are those windows and you have a mismatch, you
10:42know, he's at least going to give his guys a chance
10:44to make a play on it. Austin Hooper has been great
10:46for them this year. But imagine what that looks
10:48like when you keep adding more talent and more
10:50dynamic weapons and his ability to put that ball
10:53in those pristine locations where his guys can
10:56capitalize and make these big plays because they've
10:58been pretty terrible in the red zone. And you
11:00know, you know, you fix that there were touchdown
11:02just outside of it. Another great play buddy. All
11:04right. What do we got next? Let's see which one
11:08is okay this to me. Oh, I love this one. Yes,
11:11when people think about arm talent, I think they
11:15think of throwing a digger out a hundred miles an
11:18hour over the middle of the field or they think
11:20of throwing a speed out where you can just pin it
11:22on a guy or they think of deep shots all that arm
11:25talent is being in a compromised position and being
11:28able to get the ball out where you need it to. This
11:30is what Drake made does on this play. He gets kind
11:33of pressured here or not pressure, but he has moved
11:35off his initial read. He doesn't want to throw this
11:37doesn't really like the conflict here turns back and
11:39as he turns back, he's got no space to like move
11:43and no time to do anything with this throw and he
11:47just kind of gets it off and flicks it to the far
11:49side of the field to a guy in the flat. I know it's
11:52a short throw, but I'm saying like arm talent is
11:55being able to make these throws like we've gotten
11:58so used to it with Justin Herbert, but Justin
12:00Herbert does this like six times a game and it
12:03really allows the offense to have a much higher
12:05floor than it probably has any right to like just
12:08that snap that that core strength like the whip in
12:12his arm. It's just it's different man. And again,
12:16it's a short throw, but you've got to be able to
12:17be able to do this as a high-level quarterback and
12:20from a mental perspective. This is one of his best
12:22concepts. It's the bow to the front side and then
12:24you got the smash to the other what's impressed me
12:27so much when he runs these plays they run them like
12:29two or three times every single week last week. He
12:32had two to Kendrick Bourne where he just fired it
12:34between two zone defenders and his ability to not
12:37only be able to understand. Okay, there's going to
12:40be a linebacker in this window. I can't stare right
12:42there or that guy's just going to pick it off. He
12:44understands how to make sure he creates the windows
12:46for that dig route, but he also reads it out. Well
12:49consistently where if that's not there like you just
12:51saw with pop. I'm going to go to the arrow route. If
12:54those two aren't there like you saw it. That was a
12:56full field progression. Sometimes we'll start on
12:58the high low and then he'll go backside or he'll
13:00pump the underneath Defender. I know last week. He's
13:03had like three completions where he pumps the
13:05underneath Defender and then throws that sale last
13:08week. The corner didn't bite and he didn't hesitate.
13:10He was like, all right, but I'll take what you give
13:12me and that's the kind of stuff where I'm thinking.
13:14This is a 22 year old kid who is making full field
13:17reads and making the right decision consistently.
13:20There's very rarely hiccups and I cannot articulate
13:24how insane that is. Like again, we knew he was smart
13:27to be able to do it with the supporting cast that
13:29he has the fact that he's dealing with pressure
13:31hasn't quite gotten to him yet or like, you know,
13:33I think sometimes it gets a little deep in the pocket
13:35like he's not perfect, but for a first-year guy,
13:37it's incredible. The mental acuity that he shows
13:40and then maximizing it with that really rare skill
13:43set. Hi, I'm so glad you bring up the thing where
13:46he's able to manipulate flat Defenders and stuff.
13:48Sometimes that game against Houston. He does it
13:51to Derek Stingley where he's he kind of baits him
13:54to run it with I think with the back out in the
13:56flat and then hits like a 1012 yard out route over
13:58it. I'm like first game. You're testing one of the
14:01best corners in the league like that. Like yeah,
14:03he's probably probably going to be pretty good.
14:05I don't know if this that changed but it was like
14:07Christian Gonzalez and Derek Stingley were the only
14:10corners that allowed just one deep catch on at least
14:12targets. I was like a couple weeks ago. I doubt it's
14:14changed. I know it hasn't for Gonzo the only person
14:17who completed a deep ball against Derek Stingley
14:20was Drake May that 50-yard bomb his first career
14:24touchdown. Like that's what we're talking about.
14:26Like you said one of the best corners in the league.
14:28He did not fear that man. He said nope. I like
14:30Keyshawn booty better than I like Derek Stingley
14:32and obviously throw itself helped out quite a bit.
14:35It's a nice little badge to start your career with
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16:06run your game. All right, we're back baby. We got
16:10two more clips and then we're going to get into a
16:12little bit more of what maybe Drake may can improve
16:14down the road. So what do we got for the last couple?
16:20Which one? Oh, this was okay. This to me is it's
16:24ball placement and arm talent kind of coming
16:26together, but also understanding where the ball
16:28needs to be. So this was I think it's KJ Osborne
16:31kind of running down the seam here against the
16:33Jaguars may gets to the top of his draft. He knows
16:35he's getting split field coverage based on what
16:37the weak safety is doing the weak safety. They're
16:40the truth tellers on the defense. They will tell
16:42you what this defense wants to do. If this guy's
16:44going to move back to the middle of the field,
16:45you're getting single high. This guy's going to
16:47rotate down. If he starts to come off the hash
16:49you're getting some sort of too high coverage. So
16:51may kind of gives him a check. He goes. Okay,
16:53dude's coming off the hash. That means I can get
16:55too high coverage. And if I'm getting too high
16:57coverage Osborne up the seam here should have a
17:00pocket towards the other hash in between, you know
17:03inside of the other safety who's coming off the
17:05his hash as well. So may is able to just rifle
17:08this one in there. He gives it enough speed to
17:11make sure this safety never gets there and to
17:13make sure this this linebacker can't get there.
17:15Is it enough air to get over the linebacker, but
17:18he doesn't like throw it towards the back of the
17:22end zone where he gives the safety potentially a
17:24chance to go run and get it. He gives it to a spot
17:27where Osborne can kind of just go down and cradle
17:29it away from every single defender. I mean just
17:32to have the awareness of what the defense is doing
17:35where the exact best spot for the ball is and then
17:37be able to layer it in like that. He's just good
17:40man like this. It's just everything coming together
17:43and this was a concept. They ran a few times in
17:45this game. I think it was right before halftime. He
17:47at Hunter Henry because basically like that sit
17:49route you'd like for it more to be a distraction
17:51for those middle defenders, but depending on the
17:53coverage, sometimes you just hit that in the two
17:55minute. He hit this twice the first time he wanted
17:57the deeper route pass rush got there. He's like,
17:59all right, I got to get the ball out of my hand
18:01second time just did it so they could get into I
18:03think it was field goal range this time. Like you
18:05said, he got the look. He wanted too high. Then you
18:08see that middle defender is looking only at under
18:10Henry and he's like, oh, I got I got my opening.
18:12I'm chilling. So again, the physical talent where
18:15like with Mac Jones, if we're being totally honest,
18:17I don't have a whole lot of faith that KJ Osborne
18:20is catching this in the same fashion where he's
18:21completely protected, but Drake me with the arm
18:23strength and the ball placement and the knowledge
18:25of where to put it again, combining the mental
18:28acuity with really impressive physical attributes
18:30how to let it run one more time before we move on.
18:32Oh my God, beautiful. All right, PKJ Osborne. Hope
18:35you make it just the last thing to look at his
18:38footwork how clean it is. He gets to the top of
18:40the drop settles a little bit on his back foot
18:42and immediately lets it rip. I guess just it's
18:45clean. It's it's it's efficient. It's just again
18:48man. He's a good player in the white jersey in
18:50the silver pants. Yeah, it looks good execution
18:53baby. All right, Bob last clip. What do you got
18:56for us? I mean, this is I think everyone who's
18:59watched Drake me in any capacity has seen this
19:01play. It's just I think I would be remissed to
19:04not put this play in there. I think just his job.
19:07This is again goes back to his feel for the pocket
19:10his feel for rushers being able to get off throws
19:13from compromised platforms. The fact that he gets
19:15free rushers through his left side has to slide
19:18to his right make a throw back across his body
19:21and really puts it on the guy in a perfect spot
19:24to keep on running. I mean it pop doesn't break
19:26stride at all. Like he's just running the same
19:28as he would have whether that ball was going to
19:30be there or not it to me. It's just he has been
19:33so so good against the Blitz and so good under
19:36pressure this year. And I think this was probably
19:38one of the cleanest examples of of what that can
19:41really really look like at a high level hundred
19:43percent in one. He knows the rushers coming like
19:45we talked about earlier slight adjustment waits
19:48until pop gets around the underneath the fender.
19:50He doesn't throw it at him. He waits for that
19:52second window again. You just don't see that
19:54very often like from top quarterbacks. They'll
19:56show it. But the combination of knowing to
19:58drink just to buy yourself enough time the poise
20:00to know that you might take a pretty big shot
20:02like there aren't a lot of hits that you're going
20:04to take that are harder. You might think linebacker
20:06defensive lineman a safety coming downhill. Usually
20:09there's like 210 15 pounds. Those guys with a full
20:12head of steam coming right down an unblocked gap
20:14like that's a pretty scary sight. I don't care
20:16who you are. Drake may does not care the poise
20:19to get it out and the understanding of knowing
20:21when to throw it and when to buy himself just
20:23enough time. I agree. This is one of my favorite
20:25reps. We broke this one down after the game and
20:27I think it's maybe top five favorite plays even
20:29though you think a short throw like on the stat
20:31sheet. Obviously a lot of yards, but what do you
20:33mean? You just throws it like what seven yards
20:35not bro. Like this is a crazy high difficulty
20:38play that he's able to make for a huge chunk
20:40of yards and and like you said, it's the knowing
20:43when to throw it. I think a lot of rookie quarterbacks
20:45or just mediocre quarterbacks would get stuck at
20:48the very top of the drop here realize they're hot
20:51and probably just try to jam this ball out and be
20:53like I want to get it out of here. I don't want
20:55to get I don't want to get obliterated. I want
20:57to make sure I don't get sacked but Drake may
20:59has the calmness the athletic ability to just
21:02nope. I'll take a hop step over here to my right
21:04make sure I don't get popped. I can get the throw
21:06off clean. Boom. Like he just again man, you
21:10don't even see this every game from some of the
21:12best quarterbacks necessarily and so for him to
21:14do this as a rookie in one of his first starts
21:18the future is incredibly bright when you can do
21:20stuff like this. That was literally going to be
21:22my transition out of this. I got I love him on
21:25this damn show, but also like in this game
21:27specifically watching Stafford and now I'm like
21:30kind of watching him more and more. I'm like he
21:32looks a lot like him does way where it looks
21:34completely natural. The poise is consistent. They
21:37really never look that rattle like Stafford.
21:39Obviously, he's on the older side. There are
21:40sometimes or if you get pressure in his face, he's
21:42going to kind of react, but the way they play like
21:45some of the outbreaking throws like no one is
21:47throwing out breaking routes like Stafford is
21:49right now, but you see that from Drake not exactly
21:51like the puka Nakula where it's like over the
21:53defender and who else can do that? I mean that
21:55was crazy. Exactly like that's we don't want to
21:57put the bar quite that high like Stafford is still
21:59a completely different animal, but for a rookie
22:01to even be comparable in his execution without
22:04the glaring mistakes that really scare you in
22:06these young guys as somebody who in college
22:09low turnover where the play rate and I think that
22:11was something that got lost in the wash like yes,
22:13his we talked about it. His ugly plays were like
22:16really really bad, but you saw them and you were
22:18like I'm surprised because he was pretty good.
22:20The rest of the game and the decision-making in
22:22the NFL has been even better than it was in college.
22:25So so cool. But of course Drake hasn't been perfect.
22:28We are going to talk about where he can improve
22:30and what he could look like moving forward. But
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24:07we've showered Drake may with much deserved
24:10praise, but like I said, he hasn't been perfect.
24:12So where are some areas that you'd like to see
24:14him get better? Not only as the season goes on
24:16but also obviously moving forward in his career.
24:20I mean, it's going to sound ridiculous, but
24:22if there's not a whole lot like I think for me
24:25he just needs to kind of continue to get better
24:27at the things. He is good at like his pocket
24:29movement is already good and promising. Let's
24:31get a little bit better there. His accuracy. I
24:34think is already good and promising but continue
24:36to get better as you get more reps and more
24:37chemistry with some of these players and all of
24:40that stuff. I think his footwork is good. He
24:42could probably still like maybe slightly make it
24:44even a little bit better a little bit cleaner
24:46which again is just going to come from I don't
24:48think it's a him problem necessarily. I think
24:50it's just all rookies are going to be a little
24:51bit less crisp than say a Dak Prescott or Joe
24:54Burrow and that's just how it goes. So that's
24:56not necessarily on him. The only thing I think
24:58that I think is specific to him that he does
25:01need to fix is some of those errors in big
25:04moments where he is a little bit too willing
25:06to put himself in compromised positions. I
25:10it's hard to know how to frame it because I
25:12think you just have to live with them until
25:14they're gone. Like if that makes sense like it's
25:16it's almost the Josh Allen paradigm where he was
25:18like this for three four years and even as
25:20recently as a couple years ago was still like
25:22that and still has some of those moments but you
25:24get to a point where you get eight of the great
25:27plays and you get maybe one of the bad ones
25:29that you're like whatever man I don't really
25:31care and right now with Drake may it's more of
25:33like you get three or four of the really good
25:34ones and maybe two or three of the bad ones. And
25:37so I think as a rookie that is totally fine to
25:39live with and you're much more okay with clinging
25:41on to what the great moments look like but just
25:44some of his, you know, being willing to hold the
25:46ball out randomly with one hand and just some of
25:48the weird stuff that he'll do to kind of play
25:51some backyard football needs to get toned down
25:53just a smidgen. And I think in those end of
25:55game situations, I feel like a lot of it's also
25:57just been a lack of chemistry like two times
25:59thrown to pop in big situations and pop isn't
26:02looking for the ball. I think at some point like
26:04the more you feel comfortable and you guys know
26:06you, you know them like to Mario Douglas more
26:09often than not has been the one who's in the wrong
26:11more so than Drake and usually you tend to defer
26:14to the quarterback and those kinds of things. But
26:16with a rookie you're thinking. All right, I'll
26:17probably lean towards guys been here. Alex van
26:19Peltz. No, Drake has been doing the right things
26:21like popping too many steps or popped in turn
26:23around and I'm like, okay damn like, you know,
26:26so like you said as a rookie, those are part of
26:29the growing pains, but hopefully he gets more
26:31talent around him. Obviously the guys that are
26:33doing well right now continue to grow with him
26:35and then once that chemistry is really there and
26:37that timing is down and you know what guys want
26:39to do when you mind melt a little bit. I think
26:41we could see a whole different version of Drake
26:43made, which is pretty crazy. But to close out
26:46brother, what should we expect from Drake may
26:48moving forward now? Obviously we talked about it.
26:50He's super talented. I think he has the kind of
26:52work ethic like the franchise quarterbacks like
26:54a Brady like a breeze or any of those guys where
26:57they are going to every offseason every season
26:59try to get that like 0.1% better. Like you
27:02mentioned the footwork. The accuracy is not bad.
27:04It's very good, but he can hone them even more
27:06and get better. So where do you think his
27:08ceiling is maybe within his first contract and
27:10then even maybe moving forward? I think it's
27:14dangerous to ever put any quarterback with the
27:16potential of like to me. What is the top three
27:20right now where it's Patrick Mahomes, Josh
27:22Allen, Lamar Jackson. I think you should never
27:24expect any quarterback to get to that level, but
27:27I think Drake may can certainly get to the next
27:29level, which is like the the Justin Herbert's
27:31the Joe Burroughs, you know what CJ Stroud, I
27:34think has been at points like Jordan love that
27:36next tier of like, okay. This is very obviously
27:39a quarterback who is helping us all the time and
27:41really does a lot to unlock our offense. Just
27:43maybe isn't quite in that God mode here that the
27:46all the other guys are. So and the thing is I
27:48have a good degree of faith that he will get
27:50there. Like I think by 2026, we will be pretty
27:54definitively like around the league that this is
27:56a top eight quarterback. Like I just I have so
27:59much I had so much faith in him coming out of
28:01college and for his rookie year to look even more
28:04consistent than I would have imagined. It's and
28:07and can you know, you mentioned the coaching
28:08staff a little bit earlier. It seems like they
28:10are more bought in on him than I remember any
28:12coaching staff being bought in on a quarterback
28:14in a long time. And so that to me is like, all
28:16right, if they're bought in on him, the film looks
28:19this good. He's that talented. How's it supposed
28:22to go wrong? Like he's just I think he's that
28:24good. The perspective he has for a 22 year old, I
28:27think is the biggest reason you're seeing this
28:29because they have been like just showering him
28:32with praise, just like we've been going all the
28:34way back to the spring. Like they drafted him. We
28:36knew they loved the guy, but then you listen to
28:38TC and you listen to Van Pelt. Sometimes they'll
28:41acknowledge, you know, rookie quarterbacks and
28:43Van Pelt's called him out for the turnovers. He's
28:44like, yeah, I don't care if you're a rookie. The
28:46turnovers are unacceptable. That needs to get
28:48better. He's been willing to call him out Drake
28:50when he's had things he needs to improve, but
28:52everything else just been like, yeah, no, Drake's
28:54doing everything we could possibly ask them to
28:56make a great progress behind the scenes. Like
28:58you said, those top three, like those are one
29:00of one talents. You can never make those types
29:02of comparisons, but it feels like Drake is kind
29:05of getting that point that Mahomes got to later
29:07in his career when at first it was bombs away.
29:09And then he realized, well, I don't really have
29:11the personnel to do that anymore. I'm just going
29:13to do the death by a thousand cuts approach. And
29:15that's literally Drake. He didn't even throw a deep
29:17pass last week. He's really refrained from going
29:19deep because he understands. I may not have the
29:21guys like throwing deep to Keisha. I'm booty
29:23ain't working. Let me just work the underneath
29:25part, take what the defense gives me and do
29:27my best to make sure this offense can operate
29:29on schedule. So once again, Derek, as always
29:32great time, brother. Thank you so much for taking
29:34the time before I let you go. Please let the people
29:36know if they don't know already where they can
29:38find you or great stuff. You got coming down the pipeline
29:40that we should be looking out for. I think this is going
29:42to drop on Friday. By the way, we're recording this
29:44on Tuesday. So there's anything around that time
29:46for him. I want to make sure I'm being fair. Yeah.
29:48Once again, thank you for having me. I mean, anytime
29:50I can get on, you know, 30 minutes to get on the
29:52soapbox for Drake May. I don't think I'll ever turn
29:54it down. So this is a great time again. You guys can
29:57find me at QB class, both on Twitter and Blue Sky.
30:00I know a little bit more people are over there. Now,
30:02obviously the athletic football show. I'm actually
30:05going to be on more episodes than usual this week.
30:07Usually I don't do the midweek show, but I will be
30:09on the midweek show. I guess by the time this is
30:12out, I will have already been on the midweek show.
30:14And so yeah, that's pretty much where you can
30:16catch me. Awesome. Thanks once again, brother.
30:18Always appreciate you and appreciate you all as
30:20always for watching. Now. Take care of yourselves.
30:23Take care of each other. We will see you next time.
30:25Peace y'all.