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00:00As I was saying, here's the way I think I'm looking at this week.
00:06Yesterday was Monday, Niner season was over, I did a lot of complaining, they stunk, we
00:12know it, 6-11, they get an F from me, I don't know what they get from you, but I'm giving
00:17them an F.
00:18I love you, yesterday I said D+, it was an F.
00:20Alright, got cheese, by the way, shout out to Jim Moley, one of our favorites, he's in
00:28India right now, Bangalore, India, and he's listening.
00:31On the Odyssey app, that's a P1, baby.
00:35Now let us alone, Jim, now have fun out there, stay healthy, anyway, but today it's about
00:42where the 49ers go, and what their priorities are for next year, and obviously Brock Purdy's
00:51priority number one, and I played before the break some, his thoughts about the contract
00:56extension, I'm going to play another soundbite from Purdy and then we can get into it.
01:02More than anything, I want to be able to be here for my guys in the locker room, be here,
01:08I want to be in San Francisco and play my football career here, man, I love it here,
01:12and I want to do whatever it takes to be here, and so we'll see when we get there, when we
01:16sit down and start talking and stuff, but that's first and foremost, and then we'll
01:21go from there, but I'm not really sure what it all is going to look like in the tail,
01:24but I know that I'm the guy for this organization and that I can do what it takes to help lead
01:30us where we want to go, and I'm confident in that, so we'll see.
01:35Alright, we'll see.
01:37There's Brock Purdy.
01:38I mean, it certainly sounds, see, this is one of the reasons I think we love sports,
01:45is we get to know these guys, and we kind of feel like we know when they're telling
01:51the truth and when they're full of it, and we get tired of people, and some guys say
01:56the same thing every time, but it doesn't mean anything, but when I hear Brock Purdy
02:00say he wants to be in San Francisco, he'd love to get this done quickly, he'd love to
02:06do it for his teammates, all those kind of things, to my way of thinking, having watched
02:11Brock Purdy and listened to Brock Purdy for two and a half years, I believe him.
02:15I totally believe him.
02:16I believe he wants to be here, and I believe what I heard him say right there leads me
02:21to believe he's not hell-bent on resetting the market, give him a fair number, get him
02:28in early, and let's move along here and start addressing everything else.
02:33No doubt about it.
02:35And without, before I finish, Gu, like, if the 49ers can't figure something out with
02:41Purdy by OTAs or by training camp, I don't like, I'll be stupefied after what happened
02:51this past year, and 49er fans at 888-957-9570, I mean, can we all agree on that, that if
03:00we're bringing Purdy back, that's priority number one, but number 1A is to get him in
03:05here early enough that you can take advantage of it.
03:09No doubt, man.
03:10This is what you call, this is the NFL equivalent of a layup, and you're right.
03:15I believe the words that are coming out of his mouth, man.
03:18I just really do.
03:20He's telling you he wants to be here.
03:22It just sounds like it's coming from a standpoint of where I'm not going to try to bring the
03:26house down, but that still might net him 55 to 60 mil.
03:30We don't know, but the dude wants to be here, and last year, the Niners, what did I give
03:34them credit for?
03:35And then I ripped them, Stony.
03:36I said, Lynch and everybody over there, they have their business in order, their books
03:41are in order, and it just felt like last year, for whatever reason, that was not the case,
03:47so I feel like, just from that standpoint, the energy from the organization is like,
03:52what are we doing?
03:53I mean, Stony, I could tell his agent, hey, sit this one out, Gu's got you, and I can
03:58get this deal facilitated, so I'm just telling you.
04:00You mean the player?
04:01Yeah, like, man, this is easy.
04:05You know, the guy's telling you, man, I want to get married, I'm yours, so let's go.
04:12What's going to take so long?
04:13And you're right, Stony, now it's about the timing more than the number, and it's always
04:18about the money, I get that, but I can't wait to see what he gets, and Stony, I'm going
04:24to just put this in the cap, I think it's going to be like 50.
04:27I think he's going to get 50 per.
04:29Okay, well, that's less than everybody thought before the season.
04:32And I get told it won't be the first time or it's not.
04:33I said York, because he said he was going to reset the market.
04:36I don't think he's going to reset the market.
04:38That was before this 17-game season.
04:41Yeah, exactly.
04:44Exactly.
04:45But what I'm asking 49er fans right now is if you take a look at their recent history
04:51with players in Brock Purdy's position.
04:54So you had Nick Bosa, okay, he held out, and he didn't sign until right before the Pittsburgh
05:01Steelers game.
05:03Deebo Samuel, he's the one I cannot quite remember exactly when he signed, but I think
05:10late July.
05:11Yeah.
05:12Scrubbed his IG, there was drama.
05:13That's right.
05:14There was a little drama.
05:15Late July.
05:16Yeah.
05:17So it was right at the start of training camp then, I believe.
05:20Brandon Ayuk, obviously he held out.
05:24Trent Williams, I'm sorry, he held in.
05:26Trent Williams held out.
05:27McCaffrey got his before.
05:29I guess what I'm saying is, where does Brock fit into this and why?
05:35You know what I mean?
05:38Just hypothetically, why did the 49ers, why did it take so long for them to extend Bosa?
05:47I'm going to use Bosa as the guy who I'm going to compare Brock to in terms of importance.
05:55Yeah.
05:56I don't have the answer, and I'll just say savings, or did they have to convince themselves?
06:01You know, when you buy a high item, you make that purchase, you got buyer's remorse.
06:05I don't know, but when it was all said and done, and you think about it now, they kind
06:09of played themselves.
06:10You didn't save anything, and you did that same thing with Brandon Ayuk.
06:14But when you talk about Brock Purdy, him making crumbs right now, Stiney, it's just going
06:20to be great to see and great to hear, but the bottom line is, the reality is, he is
06:26more important than any of those guys you listed right now.
06:29This is your guy.
06:31We're talking about a quarterback league.
06:33You could say, until the cows come home, why they went 6-11, and this year wasn't as good
06:38as the previous two, but the bottom line is, hearing that clip, and Brock telling you he's
06:44ready to play ball, and he's ready to get to work, I don't know why this thing would
06:49not be done ASAP.
06:53I'm just trying to set up the whole conversation, because I'll acknowledge, I hear Brock Purdy
07:12talking, and I'm thinking, oh my god, maybe you could get him for 40.
07:17Well, Brock Purdy talking is still not the agent talking, and the agent still has a job
07:23to do, and that's get Brock Purdy as much money as he can possibly get for Brock Purdy.
07:27He gets more.
07:28But what I'm getting at is, when Nick Bosa was going through this, he was clearly the
07:36most important player on defense.
07:39Bosa was coming off a great year, Bosa was the man, and even Bosa, they were willing
07:46to wait until right before the season.
07:50What I'm wondering is, I love all these things that Brock Purdy's saying, but if his agent
07:56is attacking things like Nick Bosa's agent did, might it be harder to get this thing
08:04done, because the agent can't just say, you know what, we'll take 40, because Brock's
08:10a nice guy.
08:13That's what I'd be mostly concerned about.
08:17Yeah, I'm listening to Brock Purdy thinking, you can wrap this up in three months, but
08:23I know that that might be naive, too.
08:27And that's where I live, Naive City, but the bottom line, Stanton, correct me if I'm wrong,
08:31I don't remember ever hearing Bosa have a soundbite about his contract status back then
08:37like Brock Purdy went after it.
08:39But they're two different people.
08:40Bosa was, you know, before he even came into the league, he was a high draft choice.
08:45We're talking about mystery relevant.
08:47And I'll say this about the agent, Brock Purdy and these athletes control what's essentially
08:54going to be done and what they want to have happen.
08:58And again, I'm not saying Brock's, oh, give me 15 mili, that'll take it.
09:02But that energy that I felt like was coming from that clip is something he can also tell
09:07his agent what time it is, Donnie, and I think the Niners, when you ask why did Bosa go,
09:13why did he go, you know, to the last second?
09:16I guess at the end of the day, do you think Lynch and and Parag just wanted to make it
09:20look like, you know, we just did we weren't easy if that's even a or we weren't pushovers
09:26with Bosa?
09:27Yeah.
09:28And which gets you nowhere when it's all said and done.
09:30It's like value what you have.
09:32And the entity that is Bosa at that time was a badass defensive end.
09:38Give him his bread.
09:39There's no games to be played.
09:41And you eventually did it.
09:42But the head scratching thing, just listening to you was I had to take so long.
09:46Well, I mean, it took so long because Bosa wanted more than the Niners wanted to pay
09:52him.
09:53And he got that, though.
09:54Well, we assume he got it.
09:56I mean, I guess he even if he was the highest paid, maybe he wanted to get the highest paid
10:00by two million.
10:01I I don't know if Bosa got every single thing he wanted, but it sure feels like he, quote
10:06unquote, won the negotiation.
10:08That's the way it's been portrayed.
10:12You know, if Brock Purdy's agent comes the first day of free agency and basically says,
10:17how about fifty five?
10:19Well, if I'm the forty niners, if there's coming out with fifty five, just the nature
10:24of the business is that's a little too high.
10:27Like I don't even after what happened this last offseason with the trifecta of contracts.
10:32Well, here's what we spent all day talking about yesterday, that the Niners kind of messed
10:38up.
10:39Not messed up.
10:40But yeah, there's there were questions.
10:41You don't think that will help Brock in this situation?
10:43I don't know.
10:44We could go more smoothly.
10:46Why?
10:47Like the way I look at it is we've got five guys.
10:50So OK, we had Bosa.
10:52He signed three days before the season started.
10:55We had Debo Samuel.
10:57He didn't sign until training camp had begun.
11:00We had I have you.
11:02When was he signed?
11:03He was signed very late in the process.
11:06How did that work out?
11:07Right.
11:08What about Jeffrey Seid?
11:09He was signed before OTAs.
11:11What about Trent Williams?
11:12He was signed after training camp.
11:16So to me, the forty niners have five different examples to use, or that's just their factual
11:24track record.
11:26And yes, yes, I do think, man, I mean, you saw Bosa signed, signed late.
11:32It may have affected him.
11:33Then you saw Debo, all of them, all of them.
11:36So just because of that, do you give in early if that's what it's coming down to?
11:44Well, you're going to give something.
11:45So when you say give in, Stiney, that's where that's the part of this puzzle I don't have.
11:51And I'm assuming and speaking for Brock, but listening to that clip, it doesn't sound like
11:56he's going to ask for something so ridiculous that it would make the organization pause
12:01and having the offseason and the season from hell last year.
12:05I believe I think that bodes well for Brock and his representation to where if they ask
12:10for something that's reasonable or just they start somewhere that's reasonable.
12:15I think the Niners just for the sake of the team and the fans and we did something early.
12:23We identified our guy and we got it done.
12:26Let's go.
12:27Let's go work.
12:28Well, but if you're his agent and again, it's not about the money now.
12:38It's about what is always about the money.
12:40Listen, I mean, I think we're naive if if if free agency opens on day one and the Niners
12:47and Purdy's agent are talking, I'm telling you right now, that's all great.
12:51What Brock Purdy said.
12:53But his agent is still coming to the table.
12:56Day one, a free agency probably saying, you know, guys, it's pretty because he's a guy's
13:01it's pretty easy.
13:03Dak got 60 million last year.
13:05We'll take 62 and let's call it a day.
13:07Well, what are the Niners going to do at that point?
13:10Day one, a free agency will be the starting point.
13:14Like there's no way the agent comes to the table and goes, guys, tell you what, I've
13:18been looking at all the numbers.
13:19We'll take 40 right off the bat.
13:22Well, then it was it's but there's no.
13:25And he's probably going to bring up the Jed York said he's going to reset the market.
13:28Then I could scratch what I just said.
13:30And I could.
13:31You're right.
13:32Those are words.
13:33I'm just wondering mentioned.
13:34And this could go 15 rounds.
13:36I'm just wondering how the Niners look at Purdy versus.
13:42Their track record for other very important free agents and the timetable they use to
13:48get those done.
13:50And yes, on the surface, it would feel like Purdy's more important than any of them to
13:55get in early.
13:57But especially, you know, Nick Bosa was their most important defensive player and they waited
14:05till the end for him.
14:06So like all I all I'm saying is sometimes I don't think sometimes I think we don't realize
14:14how that it's not easy to get these things done quickly.
14:17Yeah.
14:18You brought up deck the bottom line, even though we all can feel and see and watch the
14:25deck, never lived up to getting that money.
14:28Bottom line is his employers thought he was worth it.
14:30And Jerry gave him that check.
14:32I'm asking you right now.
14:34Do you believe the Niners would be comfortable and not hesitate one iota by making Brock
14:40Purdy the highest paid quarterback in the NFL?
14:43That I that's a question I don't have an answer for.
14:46I don't either.
14:47I don't either.
14:48Why do I feel like after you plan that sound that in your right, I don't feel like that's
14:54what he's aiming for.
14:57Right.
14:58But and I get he works for Brock Purdy, the agent.
15:02But if Brock Purdy says, hey, look, well, you know what?
15:05Let's listen to Brock Purdy about whether or not he's heard all the discussion in the
15:10numbers around his his deal, obviously, just based off of how this year has gone.
15:14It's been conversations and the talking points and things like that.
15:18But I mean, if you take a step back and realize what has been done the last couple of years,
15:23you know, if we're talking about me and my story, like being drafted last and then and
15:27then coming in and helping the team win and reaching some pretty big heights, you know,
15:31that's something that I can I can fall back and look on and be like, OK, that's what I've
15:35done.
15:36And obviously not just by myself.
15:37I've had a great supporting cast and everything.
15:39And I'm very thankful for that.
15:40This year was tough.
15:41But like I said, I really do believe that this all happened and I can grow so much from
15:46it and continue to grow into the quarterback that I want to be.
15:50And, you know, I just turned 25 years old.
15:53I feel like there's a lot a lot of areas and improvement that I can have within my game
15:59and I know I can get to.
16:00So I'm confident in that.
16:01So we'll see what happens.
16:02Everybody has their own opinion and that's OK.
16:04But for me, I know who I am and what my purpose in life is and what I can do.
16:09Interesting.
16:10Well, I mean, man.
16:14It's interesting.
16:15It's interesting.
16:16I like a humble and well-grounded, rounded dude, man.
16:20Well, the funny thing there is what I heard Purdy say there is, but I have done a lot
16:25already in this league in a short period of time.
16:28I know.
16:29I know he has.
16:30I'm ready for him to get 40.
16:34You didn't ask.
16:35And I'm ready for him to set the reset the market.
16:38If both of those stories broke, I wouldn't be shocked, Stani.
16:42That's where I'm at with the Brock Purdy situation.
16:45I could easily see him getting the most and then somebody will surpass him.
16:50And somebody from the 510 on the Comcast Business Text Line talked about how much pressure it
16:55would be from the players union on Brock and his representation, Stani, to not come in
17:01and, hey, I'll take 20.
17:03You know what I mean?
17:04You owe it to the fraternity of the rest of the quarterbacks to try to bring the house
17:10down.
17:11I mean, he's not going to take 20.
17:12No, I was just throwing that out there.
17:14But again, to me, I don't know.
17:18The more I think about it, the more I think on the surface, yes, this should get done
17:23in a hurry.
17:24On the other side of the coin, I also know that for an agent to get the most out of the
17:31team, it's, I mean, why wouldn't, for example, the first day of free agency, Purdy's agents
17:40say, yeah, you know, Jed said we're going to reset the market.
17:43And you know, Brock had a, Brock was a rock.
17:46Brock was a rock during this year.
17:48And so, you know, we want, we want 60 plus.
17:52And the 49ers go, whoa, that's a little high.
17:55And at that point, what does the agent say?
17:57All right, well, that's what we're talking about.
17:59Let me know if you change your mind and you hang up the phone and then you don't talk
18:03to his representatives for three weeks.
18:05And then time goes by.
18:07And what happens during that time?
18:09Does Kirk Cousins start to look more attractive because you are uncomfortable paying a guy
18:14that led you to a 6-11 or was part of a team that led you to a 6-11 season?
18:20So so you got to be, it could be dangerous.
18:23And I do wonder, put it right on the table, brought to you by Atco Pest Control, Stiney.
18:27I do wonder, could Brock kind of be greedy or his representation and play himself to
18:33where Kyle has a wandering eye?
18:36You tell me this is a cutthroat business.
18:38And if this were last year and they had lost the Super Bowl and Purdy was up, he probably
18:43would have got 80.
18:44But I got to believe now Kyle saw some warts.
18:47These keep it to himself.
18:49And if Brock comes in like I'm the guy, my stuff don't stink.
18:53And that there's a number that will give you that sense, Stiney.
18:57I do wonder if Kyle and company would be like, hey, OK, this is ridiculous.
19:02I do not or we do not feel comfortable giving this guy this amount of money.
19:07And you know what, Cousins, he's not that bad.
19:10So you got to be careful, I believe, if you're Brock and his representation from turning
19:13them off to get that started.
19:16Yeah.
19:17And I maybe I'm the only one, but I feel like in a way I'm done looking at.
19:22I know the number is going to be what fuels the negotiation.
19:27But in a way, the date is more important to me than the number.
19:33Do you think the team feels that way?
19:35Because that's a bar.
19:36I like hearing you say that.
19:38I love that.
19:39But I'm wondering, does the team feel that way?
19:41Well, I mean, let's say we get to, you know, June-ish and they're still talking and he's
19:48missed OTA.
19:49That's a little while, too, Stiney.
19:51And at that point, maybe, I mean, I don't know.
19:57I don't know.
19:58Let's go to Jim in Castro.
19:59Wants to talk about Purdy's contract.
20:00What's up, Jim?
20:01How you doing?
20:02Fine, thanks.
20:03My first question to you guys, and then I'll give you some comments.
20:07What do you think he would fetch if you were looking to trade him?
20:11Would he get a first round draft choice?
20:14I don't believe so.
20:15I do.
20:16I don't believe so.
20:17I mean, I actually think he would be, not coveted around the league, but I think there'd
20:24be a few teams that would be interested in Brock Purdy.
20:29For a first.
20:30When you start throwing out $55-60 million and you couldn't even get a first round draft
20:35pick, the league, he's the kind of guy that you'd want your daughter to marry.
20:40OK.
20:41He's a great guy.
20:42But he's not going to, the league has figured him out.
20:47How many tipped balls do you need to see?
20:49He can't throw deep.
20:50I'm with you, man.
20:51OK.
20:52So, that's the issue.
20:53He's a great guy.
20:54And once you give him $60 million, Guru, you're married to him.
21:00You know where people got excited about the Niners?
21:04And I'm a Niner fan.
21:06Detroit should have beat the Niners last year.
21:08Green Bay had the Niners beat.
21:10They shouldn't have even been in the Super Bowl.
21:13So you can't give this guy $60 million.
21:15You're out of your mind.
21:17He got a chance.
21:18OK.
21:19OK.
21:20OK.
21:21What about $40 million?
21:22I love it.
21:23What about $40 million?
21:24I think the league has figured him out.
21:27If your goal is to be a Super Bowl, get to the Super Bowl and finally win one, I'm not
21:31sure he's your guy.
21:32OK.
21:33The league has figured him out.
21:34How many tipped balls do you need to see?
21:36How tall is Brock Purdy?
21:38I don't even think he's 5'11".
21:40So he can't throw deep.
21:45And this is kind of what I'm getting at, Jim.
21:46Let me throw this at you.
21:48If on the first day of free agency, the 49ers announced they've reached the contract extension
21:56with Brock Purdy for $40 million a year, essentially, I get it, there's no way to put an exact number
22:03on that.
22:04Oh, man.
22:06You gotta do it.
22:07Yeah, but are you...
22:08You gotta do it.
22:10But are you doing it for the...
22:11I would do it for $40 million.
22:13Of course.
22:14Boy, we got a minute before the break.
22:16But you don't want to do it because it's a bargain.
22:19You want to do it because you're in love with the quarterback play.
22:23And that's where I'm at.
22:25Does Kyle really want to do...
22:26Do they really want to go out there and get another quarterback, Stiney?
22:30How many times have we talked about people staying in bad relationships, at least I do,
22:33bad relationships because they're afraid that they might not find anybody.
22:37It's not about that.
22:38It's about are you happy or not.
22:40But if the Niners are going to bring him back because he's cheap, what are you really
22:44giving for the $40 million, though?
22:46That's what I'm saying.
22:47So you wouldn't do it for $40 million?
22:49I would in a heartbeat.
22:50No.
22:51If I were the Niners.
22:52It's what I told you, Willard and Dibbs, yesterday, Stiney.
22:54I am worried about what the caller said, the tip balls, the non-throwing the ball outside
22:59the hashes, you telling me he's this type of quarterback and not the...
23:04That stuff is concerning to me.
23:05So that's why I'm eager to see what the Niners do.
23:09All right.
23:10On the other side, Evan's got a stat that answers some of the questions that you had
23:15about Purdy.
23:16I mean, I...
23:18You know what I mean?
23:19Because of 40, you're going to bring him back?
23:20What about, I mean, love?
23:25Like I believe Dallas loved to pay DAX 60, even though it was a wrong decision.
23:29I don't think they loved it.
23:31You think they loved it or do you think they did it out of necessity?