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00:00Tom Palacero of NFL.com talking about Brock Purdy. We got three weeks to go in the regular season,
00:08but apparently we got to look ahead to what the 49ers are going to do with Brock Purdy.
00:14With Brock Purdy, I think you have to look at it in the aggregate here. In his short career,
00:19because he took over as a seventh-round pick and took over late in the 2022 season,
00:23he's already got 13 games with a 120 passer rating, which is the most of any player ever
00:29over their first three seasons here. The efficiency numbers are really strong on him,
00:34and he's been a part of four playoff wins. I mean, the last two guys to reset the market
00:38were Dak Prescott and Lamar Jackson, who have four playoff wins combined. And wins are not
00:42a quarterback stat, but the point is they found a way to win a ton of games with Brock Purdy.
00:48All right. But they also won a ton of games with Jimmy Garoppolo.
00:52That was Tom Palacero. So let's get down to brass tacks, as they say.
00:56What kind of money are we talking? You've got a pretty expensive roster.
01:00They got like six or seven guys who all do at least $15 million in cash in 2025. So what other
01:06things potentially could come? Because you've got a very veteran, older, expensive core on that
01:12football team. One of them, one of the names we're gonna be talking about is what's the future for
01:16Debo Samuel. He's on the books for about $17 million in 2025. We know the 49ers got calls on
01:23him in a potential trade back before the draft. They were not at that point willing to part with
01:28him unless somebody gave him up just a crazy price for him. And he's one of Kyle Shanahan's favorite
01:33players of all time, maybe the favorite. But he's in a contract year. He's making a lot less money,
01:38you know, half the money of what the top of the wide receiver market is at this point.
01:42Can they get another big wide receiver deal done? Or, you know, potentially could Debo Samuel
01:48be on the move? So there's a couple pieces of sound there from Tom Pellicero about what the
01:5549ers are thinking. And, you know, they got a lot to answer, questions to answer. He talked about
02:03top of the market money and whether you give it to Brock Purdy or not.
02:07I guess I would say to you, Stani, what's your what's your alternative? And if you're telling me
02:13Sam Darnold or somebody like that was feasible for way lesser. And what's funny about Sam Darnold
02:19is you just had him. You know, he was in your backyard with the same weaponry. And for whatever
02:25reason, you felt like, well, we know why Brock Purdy was excellent. So again, Stani, I just I'm
02:32I'm worried about Brock and what I thought I saw and maybe what I thought I saw and what he is is
02:38still there. And this is just a bad year across the board for the offense. But, you know, you talk
02:44about Dak and Lamar, four combined playoff wins combined. And Brock already has that on his
02:50resume. Do you just look at this as an anomaly this season and build the offensive line as much
02:56as you can and say this guy took us to a Super Bowl? He took us to an NFC championship on the
03:02fly. I think right now, if I had to bet and go to the counters, Stani, that's the way they're
03:07going to go in regard to they'll come up with a number and he'll be their QB. Well, that's what
03:13they got to figure out. That's what the San Francisco 49ers have to figure out. And, you know,
03:20the issue to me is you can find all sorts of numbers, I think, to back up paying Brock Purdy
03:2750 or 60. I mean, if you're going to say, wow, in three years, he's already run one four playoff
03:32games. OK, well, so did Jimmy Garoppolo. You're right. Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purdy have the
03:37same postseason record four and two. You know, the the the other thing to me that, you know,
03:46I'd have to I'd have to take into consideration and I don't know if it's a positive or a negative
03:51is you got to look at everybody else on this team and they're going to bring back a lot of
03:59their veteran players. So do you have to bring back Brock Purdy to give it one more shot or
04:08do you start looking now for a quarterback of the future? And how much are you going to pay
04:14Brock Purdy? I mean, in a way, I don't really care if it's 40 or 60 because it's going to be
04:20a big time hit anyway. Right. But to me, the bigger decision is whether you're paying him
04:26for the next three or four years or not. Well, I'll say this and I think I can look you in the
04:32face and you can look me right back, Stani, and say right now, if you took everything into what
04:37you just spoke reference to, the resume is leading towards he's been way better than than bad or
04:45whatever. I don't even know a summer call, but shouldn't. Well, I'll ask 49er fans this. What's
04:50more important, the overall resume or how he's playing now? And that's where I was, how he's
04:57playing now. I'm sipping on that like the biggest alcoholic in the world, Stani. And maybe I need
05:02to put it down because I'm letting it I'm letting it, you know, hey, quit living in the past.
05:09What's he going to be moving forward? And that's what scares me. And it's got to scare the Niners.
05:15Well, let's let's take a listen to Tom Palacero about Purdy's market of NFL dot com.
05:24Next year is a contract year. If a deal is going to get done, I would anticipate it is at the top
05:32of the quarterback market for all the reasons that I just said right now, that stacks number
05:37that is 60 million dollars per year. Are the 49ers willing to go to that or are they going
05:43to be in a situation where you could have a standoff with your starting quarterback
05:48into the offseason here? I mean, there's a lot of questions that still need to be answered here.
05:53There's no reason really for Brock Purdy to take a sub market deal at this stage. You know, the worst
05:58case would be, you know, he could always play it out. Lamar Jackson did that once upon a time.
06:02You gain even more leverage by doing that. Brock also hasn't made as much money as Lamar by virtue
06:08of being a seventh round draft pick. But I don't think this is a, you know, hey, we're going to
06:12make you the 10th highest paid quarterback. And Brock Purdy just saying, hey, where do I sign?
06:17All right. That's Tom Palacero, NFL Network. So what I'm hearing from Tom Palacero is I don't
06:26know what kind of money we're talking, but we're talking 55, because I'm looking at the highest
06:32average year per year of quarterbacks. And I got Prescott at 60, Burrow, Love, Lawrence at 55. I
06:42got two at 53 and Goff at 53, Herbert's at 52, Lamar's at 52, Hertz is 51. I mean, that's about
06:51eight or nine names right there. So if he's talking about top five-ish money, it's going
06:56to be over 50. And if he's talking about top 10 money, it's over 50. So in Tom Palacero's example,
07:04they are absolutely going to pay Brock Purdy north of 50 and probably north of 55.
07:10And my question is, would you do that if you're the San Francisco 49ers? Would you write a check
07:17right now to Brock Purdy for four years at about 55 million each? Before this season kicked off,
07:24I would have, and I'm on record as saying as much. Stony, I look at IUC, it's nobody's fault,
07:30but the bottom line is what the Niners invested and how it played out, that's just bad. And he's
07:36going to try to come back from that. What you see Debo not doing and what he's getting paid
07:42right now, that bothers me. You gave Trent some chicken and he's having an off year for him
07:49and some other extenuating circumstances. You look at McCaffrey, point blank range, Stony.
07:54So those things to me, they got to mean something for Brock Purdy, even if Brock Purdy was,
08:01it's Tom Thumb. It's like, now I got to move a bit different. And if that means I got to go cut
08:07throat and I have an opportunity, which they do to see the most important position, be able to be
08:14monitored one more season before we really truly invest. Stony, I think I would do that. And I
08:21know that sounds cold and probably unrealistic, but if any team can say we don't get down like
08:28that, but after what we just endured with all the money we invested in how it went bad,
08:34I, the Niners are it. Well, by the same token, this is where to me last year, absolutely
08:43positively matters. You paid Brandon Ayuk. He didn't reset the market, but he was a top five
08:50to eight paid wide receiver. Christian McCaffrey reset the market. Trent Williams reset the market
08:58in his position. So you can't, or can you tell Brock on June 1st? Guess what? We're, we're going
09:07to do, we're going to ask you to play on that last year. Like we would never have dreamed to do
09:13to Brandon Ayuk. Well, hasn't Purdy proven as much in his two or three years than Ayuk did
09:18in his first two or three years. So what do you do if you're the San Francisco 49ers?
09:25The other thing is, and this is, this is where I'm at and I get it. Purdy's a priority
09:33because you have to, you have to deal with it. But you know what? Talk to him. I think he's less
09:39of an issue than the following. And this is what I mean, because you have no choice next year.
09:46And this is what I'm talking about. Trent Williams is going to be on the team next year.
09:51Next year. Okay. How's he going to be like, what's he going to be next year? Trent Williams.
09:57But if I had to bet, he's going to miss the seat, miss part of the season. How's McCaffrey
10:04going to be next year? Don't know. But exactly. How's Brandon Ayuk going to be next year? I don't
10:08know when he's playing it. Okay. How's Debo Samuel going to be next year? Is he, is he on the decline?
10:14Yeah, right. Exactly. So that's where, honest to goodness, when we talk about Brock Purdy,
10:20like in terms of just being a quarterback and I know you have to assign a number to him and that's
10:27up to the 49ers. But in terms of what to expect from players, I know what, in my way of thinking,
10:35I know more about Brock Purdy heading into next year than Trent, McCaffrey, Ayuk and Debo Samuel.
10:42I do because I have no idea how those guys are going to play next year after this season.
10:48Yeah, but they're signed, sealed and delivered. That's right. That's right. That's why you have
10:52no choice except to go into next year with your fingers crossed and say, I hope all the guys that
10:58got hurt or looked old play like two years ago instead of last year. No, that's real. Yeah,
11:04but good luck. But how does the, I'm just being true here. Good luck. I'm conflicted on Brock now,
11:09Stoney, about what he is or what he can be if he can get there. Wouldn't you essentially be
11:14crossing your fingers then if you do give him a deal? If they're really like, oh my gosh,
11:20we didn't see this regression or it's not his fault. But that's what I'm doing right now.
11:25Whatever number it is, they're crossing their finger that he's the guy from two seasons ago
11:30and not this year. And they crossed their fingers with the other guys and it didn't work. I was
11:35going to say got burned, but it has worked some because you've seen and benefited from the good
11:40of McCaffrey, but not since, not since you signed them to extensions, all three extensions
11:47went sideways this year. And now to my way of thinking, it's, if you, if you really want to
11:56look at it, the 49ers, I think are gonna figure out a number for Brock Purdy and get him in here.
12:06And to my way of thinking, again, I know more about Brock Purdy and how he's going to quarterback
12:12this team next year than how Christian McCaffrey is going to run the football.
12:17And is anybody going to disagree with me on that? Like I think Brock, I know, I know what to expect
12:22more from Brock Purdy next year than Trent Williams. I know more of what to expect next
12:27year from Brock Purdy. I'm on the other side, Brandon. I, you, well, that one is, yeah,
12:33he tore ACL. That's scary. Exactly. But the other guys you mentioned, I guess, Donnie,
12:38I don't want to say they've earned. I've seen them be their best. And this, I believe is an
12:44anomaly. Now, if, if McCaffrey can't overcome the bilateral tendonitis and this leg, then it's a
12:50wrap, but I don't think we're there. So Stani, I gotta be looking like some time off, hit the reset.
12:57I got more confidence in those two getting back to all pro form. Then if Brock can take two more
13:03steps up or make up for the step, if you want to call it or half steps at our big daddy game,
13:08no half stepping, uh, that he's taken back. 601 on the Comcast business text line. I disagree.
13:16Stani, do we know if Purdy's arms? Okay. That's fair. It's real fair,
13:20fair, but they got to know more than we do. But if you got people just throwing,
13:27have they caught up to this offense and Kyle's wandering? I, I do wonder if Sam Darnold Stani,
13:33and he may not even be available, but if he were available, would you pull the trigger?
13:38Would you say right now you feel confident goo Sam Darnold's better than Brock Purdy.
13:42I know he's in a situation now with a better receiver than Brock's ever thrown to, but I don't
13:48get it. And the Niners wouldn't spend a first round draft pick on a wide receiver. And I like
13:54what I thought I saw, but for him to, to vanish and not even make any contributions, can that
13:59really be on one Ricky Pearsall? Because now we're looking at, but we're looking at the player
14:05and we're wondering what's going on with him, right? Both of them are players who've underachieved
14:11or haven't done what they're supposed to do. Like, that's the way I look at it. And you know,
14:17the, I mean, the other thing, you know, with, with Brock Purdy is it's not just a matter of,
14:24do you want him back? Do you not want him back? And do you want him back at this number? Or do
14:29you want it back at that number? But I can assume that if everybody, if the, the people who want
14:36Brock Purdy back at a certain number, I guarantee you want him back on June 1st or June 2nd,
14:43the minute you can re-sign or you can extend him, right? You don't want to get into a contract
14:50situation with him where you're negotiating a contract and then he's not here. And then he
14:55holds out. And then right before the season, right before the season, then he gets his contract
15:01and we've done the same thing three years in a row. Now, the other, the other scenario is
15:09June 2nd comes along, you pay Brock Purdy 55 or $60 million and you get into camp and you,
15:15and you start rolling. And then the question a guy like me would ask is, okay,
15:25interesting how you took care of Purdy and McCaffrey right off the bat when they had
15:31contract issues, but Brandon Iuke, Nick Bosa, and, and Trent Williams, you put them through
15:38the ringer. They ended up missing camp and the team was worse for it. And they were worse for
15:43it. In other words, by signing Brock Purdy in June, you're putting him in a better position
15:48to succeed than Trent Williams or Brandon Iuke. Now to that point, what would that really mean?
15:56Do you think that would mean something or be on anybody's radar as far as a player in that
16:01locker room? Because I don't think they're, they would move like that. The bottom line is
16:06if they love this guy Brock Purdy that much, then you go ahead and you give them that number.
16:11What's, but what's crazy to me is I'm acting like Brock Purdy's leave it to Beaver and he's going
16:16to take out this, take this hometown discount. And to be honest, the scoreboard is in his favor,
16:22even if they missed the playoffs, because he's taking the team to a Superbowl.
16:26And again, on the fly, a NFC championship game that he didn't finish. So Stiney,
16:30I guess, why would I think, or there be any scuttlebutt of Brock Purdy saying,
16:36oh, I'll take 3540 and golly geez, we'll call it a day when technically on paper,
16:43he has a card to say I'm better than three of the five guys you mentioned, Dak, I've done more.
16:48Well, exactly. Exactly. So you got to figure that out. 888-957-9570 is the number. 49er fans,
17:01what are you going to do with Purdy? And that includes, I mean, obviously the first thing I'm
17:06going to do is watch him play the last three games. Because if this is who he is, I got to put
17:13that into the equation. If he plays well the last two or three games, that goes into the equation.
17:19And then maybe I say, you know what, he's been more solid than he hasn't been. And I have no
17:24problem, you know, giving him what he deserves. But the other thing is, how much do you pay him?
17:32And if he doesn't like the number, do you risk, are we really going to risk Brock Purdy holding
17:39out? But then again, do you just give Purdy what he wants to get him in here on time so that you
17:47don't have a repeat of last season, which I think got the year off to a bad start. There's a lot of
17:56different angles to this. Do you make him come back and play on one year? And if he doesn't,
18:02uh, tough, tough. I know it sounds cruel, man, but that's where I'm at. But I don't
18:08believe that. And I always say family loyalty and fairness. But Stony, the Niners have had
18:14some bad luck in regard to the bang for the buck that they've got in regard to their investment
18:18on some of these contracts. And I wonder, and, you know, if you're telling me you could get a
18:25better quarterback way at a, at a lesser price, why wouldn't that right there? Let's I'm saying
18:31Sam Donald for 35. It just, if that were that right there, they're close enough in talent to
18:37me to where I would go down that Avenue. Well, first of all, I think Darnold may get more than
18:44Purdy. Darnold may be worth more than Purdy. He's had a better year. Well, the one thing had a
18:50better three years though, Stony. Well, Brock's been taking them to a Superbowl. You got to put
18:55respect on his name and an NFC championship game. And he looked like he could do no wrong. Well,
18:59we don't what's happened. Is it, is it him or a by-product of the offense and the play calling?
19:04I don't know, but I do see physical limitations to where they concern me a bit. And now to your
19:10question, Hey, goo, can the Niners come into a game and when it would Brock's arm before the
19:16season started, my answer was, hell yes. Now my answer is, I don't know. I mean, the bottom line
19:22is Sam Darnold may be a more viable long-term, uh, quarterback seen by other teams than Brock
19:30Purdy. And like, I think the idea of, Oh, we'll get, we'll get Sam Darnold in here for 35 million
19:37for one year. That ain't happening. Somebody, you're not going to get Sam Darnold after this
19:42year for that, for that. Here's the other thing. Let's say you could get Sam Darnold for, for 40
19:47million, one year, 40 million. Okay. Now you bring him in here and you tell Brock, he's got to play
19:53on 1 million. You can't do that. Like you can't do that. And the reason you can't do that is
20:00because you can't have a quarterback two years ago who backed up Brock Purdy. Now he's making 40
20:06Brock's making one and he's the starting quarterback and Brock's the backup or vice versa.
20:11The minute something would go wrong, everybody would be start starting to talk about the other
20:16quarterback. Like I, I do not think you can, it's feasible to have Darnold and Purdy together again,
20:24like they did two years ago. Yeah. And, and Darnold's looking great, but he's got the best,
20:28or if not one of the best receivers in the game, you know, and Justin Jefferson. So how,
20:34how was that? And I could use that for Brock Purdy. If Debo has really, uh, fell off or,
20:39you know, he can't beat mad coverage. Brock Purdy didn't have IU. I didn't have, uh, I just
20:46felt like Brock saying this to me, goo. I didn't have my best running back for eight games. You're
20:50tripping. I'm the same dude. It'll get better next year. And maybe that's what it is. And he's
20:55facing, you know, a payday just around the corner, uh, 408, if something's wrong with his shoulder
21:02and they know it would be criminal to pay him 60 million, it would be criminal to have them
21:08out there playing. Yeah. And it'd be also criminal. If I would hope Christian McCaffrey reset the
21:13market and he wasn't a hundred percent on your man, that engine could be gone. His end. Do you
21:19know what I mean? As far as healthy, staying healthy McCaffrey, man. So I went back and
21:26looked at some of these, like the McCaffrey signing and the timing. All right. It's to me,
21:32I find it fascinating. I really do. What's the biggest takeaway to make you say this goes under
21:38the fascinating category because I still have questions about what happened on May 22nd,
21:44the 49ers had OTAs optional, uh, training activities. He wasn't there. Okay. Neither
21:51was Trent and neither were IU. All right. Debo was there and Bosa was there at the time. It was
21:57reported that it's, it's not contract related, but Bobby Turner, the running back coach said,
22:04um, he's not here. That's the business part of it. And I don't get into stuff like that.
22:09So it was, it did have to do with money. No doubt. Okay. So, and he's older running back.
22:14Right. So the minute, so three guys hold out OTAs and the minute OTAs are over,
22:21uh, McCaffrey signs and resets the market. Okay. Gotcha. Then training camp starts and
22:28five days into training camp, McCaffrey gets hurt. And initially
22:33Shanahan calls it a calf. He'll be out two weeks. Now he's going to miss the preseason,
22:37but we're not worried about the first game. We're not worried about the regular season.
22:40And he ends up missing eight games and he gets hurt a week into training camp,
22:47but you still have one guy holding in and one guy holding out who are looking for the money that you
22:52just gave the guy who's going to miss the first half of the season. I like, I don't know where
22:58it all fits in and I'm not saying, uh, but when I, when I look at the context of the entire season
23:04and where it went right and where it went wrong, there's, there's a lot to unpack about how the
23:1149ers handled last off season. And the question is, well, how do you handle this off season?
23:17Because you have Brock Purdy who you're about to make the playoffs with. You gotta pay him. Yeah.
23:24But do you have to pay? There you go. And you know what? I'll say it. The 49ers, they messed
23:30up managing last off season. So how do they not mess up managing this off season with Brock Purdy?
23:38McCaffrey had all the leverage in the world. So I don't deem that a mess up at that time,
23:42whatever went into it, he was where he was at the top. You know, he was stunning. He was a bad boy.
23:48He had a card to play and I don't think anybody would have said, hold on, you want some new money?
23:52What are you? Oh, hell no. So I think that was the point is, is why did the 49ers break off McCaffrey
24:00right? As soon as free agency happened and they reset the market with him, but they didn't with
24:07the other two. Why did they make those guys hold out or hold in when they took care of McCaffrey?

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