PG Podcast With Roxanne & Buck 6-13-19
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00:00All right, Buck, we're going to do something really professional before we start this show.
00:04We're going to unplug this phone over here so we don't have the interruptions.
00:08But you know what? It's not my fault because we are professionals.
00:11You work in various studios. You know silence. Put your cell phone on silence.
00:15Always, always, I tell my guests when they come in here, phone's on silent, please.
00:20But I don't think to do that with this 1980s, back to the future, Michael J. Fox phone.
00:25You know what? Just leave it.
00:27Just leave it?
00:27Just leave it on. If it rings, let's answer it.
00:30Maybe it is a time travel phone. It's a rotary time travel phone, not just the past, the future.
00:35Maybe someone from the future will call us and give us lottery numbers or something.
00:38Right.
00:38We need to be available.
00:39I hope it rings. Now it's a thing.
00:41The last video we did, a lot of people had comments about the phone.
00:47It's a thing now. Leave it. We're good.
00:49You know what else is a thing?
00:50What?
00:51Your black shirt.
00:53You noticed?
00:54Oh my God. All right. I don't, I didn't mean to, but every video we've done, I've...
01:00Hey, it's always on Thursday. Do you always wear the same shirt on Thursday? You rotate through?
01:04Apparently for three weeks now, I do.
01:06I have other shirts. You wait till tomorrow. I'll prove it.
01:09If we didn't bring it up, nobody would have noticed.
01:11A, because it's, I mean, if you had a bright, flashy orange shirt on, then maybe, oh, here's Buck in his orange shirt again.
01:17But you can get away with your black uniform. No one's going to say anything.
01:21And also, just because you're a guy, you'll get away with more.
01:24Like for me, for women, if you wear something, I mean, you know, having been in the front of the camera, oh boy, you get a lot of criticism, especially for repeat stuff.
01:34That's true.
01:34That's true.
01:35So you always have to have outfits for every different day of the week. It's crazy.
01:38I swear to you, when I get home today, I'm going to hide this shirt so I do not wear it next week.
01:43I can't.
01:45I'm kidding.
01:46I'm going to wear something else. Maybe no shirt. No, no, just kidding.
01:51So we have a great topic. We've kind of been teasing this for a couple of weeks now.
01:54And this is a theme, something I always talk about.
01:56For me, being an older mom, 40 plus, when I had my first baby, the stuff that came into my life was utterly overwhelming.
02:05Everyone loves Marie Kondo, how to declutter, how to organize.
02:08And I did a really poor job at that at the beginning.
02:11And I have a reason for it.
02:12And I'll tell you my story and I want to hear your story.
02:15We obviously, as I mentioned, we did IVF.
02:18We knew, I mean, it was, I'll take the heat, you know, Doug and I are the same age.
02:23Everybody's reproductive health declines, but I'll take the heat.
02:25Like it was, we had to really dig to find some unexpired eggs.
02:30Okay.
02:31So once we did and we have our embryo, then we have to, our doctor was like, okay, ready to go.
02:36And we'd been through so much.
02:38We're like, no, we're going to just kind of chill for six months.
02:41And we didn't just chill.
02:42We lived.
02:43So working during the day, doing everything here at the radio station and every opportunity, traveling, we went to China, we went to Napa.
02:49We did everything.
02:51You lived.
02:52We lived.
02:53You guys went nuts.
02:54We went crazy.
02:55You traveled.
02:55You did what?
02:57All kinds of fun, drinking.
02:58All kinds of fun stuff.
03:00Yeah, all right.
03:00Right.
03:00Getting the Napa trip in was a heavy duty, you know, wine consumption, which I wouldn't be able to do for nine months.
03:06And so then, even once I became pregnant, it wasn't like we were out doing all these things, but I felt that sense of, oh my gosh, I'm going to have the responsibility of a child.
03:14I'm not going to be able to go do this.
03:15So I said yes to everything.
03:16Yeah.
03:17We still continue to take trips.
03:18We did all kinds of fun stuff.
03:19And I worked really hard because I wanted to make sure I had shows banked for while I was on maternity leave.
03:26You had time to plan it all out.
03:27Yes.
03:28So I was hustling in my job.
03:30I was hustling in my free time.
03:31I was not doing my best effort at getting everything organized, not to mention I was utterly overwhelmed.
03:37And I remember we went on our baby moon in March, right before she came in April.
03:41My neighbors came over and watched my house while I was gone.
03:44And so this neighbor had two little girls, and they came in, and she goes, Michelle said,
03:48Roxanne, my girls are really, really concerned that the baby's room is not going to be ready
03:53because I just had stuff everywhere.
03:55And it wasn't baby-proofed.
03:57No, no, no, no, no, no.
03:58There were corners everywhere, knives laying out.
04:01Yes.
04:02Hazards.
04:04Every step was like a minefield.
04:06Yes.
04:06Yeah.
04:06So I struggled in the beginning.
04:08And I have to tell you, I've come full circle.
04:11Now I'm like a coach for people.
04:12I have a best friend who is about to have her second baby.
04:16I said, let me, I got this.
04:17I know what to do.
04:19There were some basic things I just didn't even understand.
04:22Yeah.
04:22Like a pacifier, I know what to do with a pacifier, but my home didn't offer a place to put a pacifier.
04:28Yeah.
04:29And that's just a tiny example, but I think you get my point.
04:31What about you guys?
04:32How did you lead up?
04:33Um, we were trying for a while for a few months.
04:36And, um, and then when she found out, we were like you, we were living it up, but we didn't know when it was going to happen.
04:44Right.
04:45So we had, we'd actually went out downtown St. Pete one night with, with some friends and really had some fun, really had some fun.
04:55And she found out the next morning.
04:57I don't remember if it was a test or something she took, but she was like, Oh, we probably shouldn't do that again.
05:04So that was her last, uh, sip of alcohol until it all went.
05:09Right.
05:09But we, we didn't have anything.
05:11We kind of.
05:11Well, when you don't know until you know, you aren't.
05:13You don't know.
05:13So you may as well go enjoy yourself.
05:14You don't know.
05:14We partied it up.
05:15We didn't have anything ready.
05:17And that's, that was the moment where we started getting a few books, uh, thinking about stuff.
05:22We actually decided to move and to purchase a house, um, in a school zone.
05:27Oh, so you had a, there's no, there's no good time to move, but look at you guys.
05:30You were doing it the most craziest critical time, right?
05:32That was it.
05:33We were in a month to month.
05:34We finished our lease and we were like, okay, let's do it.
05:37We're going to buy a house, move to the suburbs.
05:39We're going to make it kids.
05:41Yeah.
05:42Picket fence, kid friendly house.
05:44And it just worked out.
05:45Right.
05:46But we weren't ready.
05:47No, no.
05:48But, but I know you, Buck.
05:49I know you are an organized guy.
05:51I mean, look at you.
05:52You wear the same shirt every Thursday.
05:53You've got a plan in place.
05:55And so I know that you have some good ideas as to how to all keep the madness.
05:59Plus you have a boy.
06:00Yeah.
06:01So plus he's a little older than mine.
06:03And so I know that you've been through this.
06:05Do you, how do you cycle through toys?
06:07How do you organize stuff in your household?
06:09Oh man.
06:09Yeah.
06:10I tried to tell everyone to stop buying him toys.
06:13The grandparents.
06:14I just asked for educational toys and books.
06:16Yeah.
06:17Yeah.
06:17I actually got my parents to buy him instead of an actual toy or something.
06:22They started a mutual fund account for him and put some money into it.
06:27I was like the best.
06:28Right.
06:28It's like the best gift.
06:29Right.
06:30Because that's just going to grow until he's, I think, 21 to have access to it.
06:34So that's great.
06:36But I don't know.
06:38He has more toys than I've ever seen in my life.
06:40We've got a guest room, you know, when the parents come over, his grandparents, and they
06:45stay in there.
06:46But, oh, if they don't call first, it's floor to ceiling, just toys.
06:51Toys.
06:52Yes.
06:52Do you have that problem?
06:53Oh, yes.
06:54Every room, it's like a, it's like a jerk.
06:57Just full of stuff.
06:58I can't think of the word.
06:59It's a, what is it?
07:00A disease spreads?
07:01Have you ever seen hoarders?
07:02It's an aggressive disease that's spread throughout our house of toys.
07:05Yes.
07:05Yeah.
07:06Yeah.
07:06Too much.
07:07Too much.
07:07So now Jackson has a, my wife's brother, they just had a baby.
07:13So now he's got a little cousin, another little boy.
07:16This is the perfect chance for us to dump all of our stuff to them.
07:20Okay.
07:21That's nice.
07:22And it's self-serving.
07:24Yeah.
07:24And so that brings me to my next point about all this organization.
07:29I think one of the hardest things is understanding the life cycle of things.
07:34Everything from clothes to toys.
07:35When you have this new person you can donate things to, that makes it nice.
07:41Because you know where it's going.
07:42It's going to stay in your house for X amount of time.
07:44When it longer serves a purpose, you know exactly where it's going.
07:47And even if you don't have someone you want to donate to, you can donate to an organization.
07:50So that starts to help.
07:51But when I first had my daughter, there's so much nostalgia.
07:55And we're going to hear a little later from Maria Kondo.
07:57She's not really calling the show, but we're going to hear from her.
08:00Did I hear the phone ring?
08:01Is that her?
08:02Maria Kondo.
08:03Yes.
08:03Everybody loves her show.
08:05I've read all of her books.
08:05I actually don't watch her.
08:07What is she on?
08:07Netflix, I think.
08:08I think so.
08:10I watched one episode.
08:11Tidying up.
08:11And I was like, well, I maybe have a different opinion than you.
08:14But I was like, nope, nope.
08:16Really?
08:17I think what she's doing is way more work than what I want to put into it.
08:22Okay.
08:23Fair enough.
08:23Folding your clothes.
08:24You're a guy.
08:25You're a vampire.
08:26You want to do things fast.
08:27Yeah, folding all these.
08:28I'm putting, like, my socks.
08:30Nope.
08:31Whoops.
08:31That's how crazy I am.
08:33Put them in the drawer.
08:34No, I don't want to.
08:34You know where they are.
08:35That's all that counts.
08:35They're in the drawer.
08:36And you haven't wasted the time to do that.
08:38I get it.
08:38I get it.
08:39Well, everybody loves her, and they love the decluttering aspects.
08:42And I've read all of her books, and so I've learned, one of her books, I should say.
08:46I have learned something very important about nostalgia, and I'm really bad about that.
08:52So I keep things in my life for nostalgic purposes or informational purposes.
08:57Ooh, maybe this will serve me in the future.
08:58Resourceful purposes.
08:59I might need this one day.
09:01Stupid.
09:02And so that nostalgia is tenfold when you have a baby.
09:06Yeah, yeah.
09:07And if it's your only baby.
09:09And so with what I had to realize with my daughter is not only did I not know when this
09:15stuff was entering the cycle half the time, and I'll get to that, but I didn't know how
09:19it was leaving the cycle.
09:21Yeah.
09:21And so with my girlfriend, who's having another little girl, she's got one girl already,
09:24she's having another little girl.
09:26And with her, I'm like, you've got all this stuff.
09:30Let me show you how to organize it.
09:32Buck, I did not know this.
09:33And I ask everybody up and down the halls who has kids.
09:36You didn't know this either.
09:37When you get an article of clothing, and that article of clothing says it is a three-month-old
09:43piece of clothing for a three-month-old.
09:46Like if it's a three-month-old.
09:47Okay.
09:48I thought, not thinking, I thought that that means when the clock starts at three months,
09:54so if your daughter's born in April 1st, then July 1st, the clock starts on that three-month
10:00piece of clothing.
10:01I'm like, no, what three months means is zero to three months.
10:06Oh, really?
10:07That's the equivalent.
10:08Or if it's a six-month article of clothing, six-month article means three to six months.
10:14Whoa.
10:14I looked at all the poundage.
10:16I found this chart.
10:16They're putting the end.
10:18Yes.
10:18Basically, the size means when it ends.
10:21Yes.
10:22See, in my mind, that's when...
10:23No, it's going to depend on how big your baby is, but yeah.
10:25In my mind, that's when I'm buying it.
10:27If I have a three-month baby and he's starting to get big, I'm going to buy a six-month shirt
10:33because he's going to need to grow into it.
10:36Right.
10:36But now I know.
10:37Now you know.
10:38Whoa, man.
10:39The clock has already begun.
10:41So I was helping my girlfriend.
10:43We took all of her daughter's clothes.
10:45We grouped them into zero to three.
10:48Then you put the three-month-old clothes with those because they're essentially like the
10:51zero to three, three to six.
10:52And you also have the six to 12, so that six to nine.
10:55So you've got all these different gaps, but we organize them accordingly.
10:58Then we knew...
10:59I just went...
11:00I went crazy with this.
11:01We know how big her daughter is.
11:03We knew like what percentile her daughter was in.
11:05I said, look, you know your daughter's in the 90th percentile.
11:07You know this next baby's probably going to be the 90th percentile.
11:10There you go.
11:10Then you attach the poundage to what you know they're going to be.
11:15So for example, we realized that at two months, her child will likely not fit into three-month
11:20clothes anymore if she follows the same pattern as baby number one.
11:23This is a lot of math, but continue.
11:25Fuck, I just went crazy.
11:26I have these...
11:27I'm kind of split personality.
11:28I'm a total mess in a lot of aspects of my life and areas of my house.
11:31And then in others, I just go nuts.
11:33So I was like, okay, you know the baby is born at this time, say December.
11:38Then you know that February, you need to...
11:41That clock alarm needs to go off and you need to go in there, take all those clothes, donate
11:46them.
11:46You're not having any more kids.
11:47You donate them.
11:48Right.
11:48Move in the next batch of clothes, take those and put, you know, so sounds tedious, but
11:53it was fun.
11:53And once you know, you just feel like, okay, this makes sense.
11:56I had no clue what I was getting into.
11:58That's crazy.
11:59Let me ask you something.
12:01Okay.
12:01Do I have too much time on my hands?
12:02Did you...
12:03Yeah.
12:04Did you save all your baby clothes?
12:07Like...
12:07What do you mean by that?
12:08Like, have you...
12:09Yes, yes.
12:09Have you gotten rid of anything?
12:10No, I saved all my baby clothes, Buck.
12:12What are you, an investigative reporter?
12:14Yes, I saved all my baby clothes.
12:15I don't know.
12:16Yes, I saved all my baby clothes.
12:17Where are they at?
12:17Is it nostalgia?
12:18Is it what it...
12:20Okay, I'm helping her.
12:21I got problems in my own household.
12:23I'm like a counselor that is just a total mess, but I'm telling people...
12:26They're all over your house.
12:26Yes, yes.
12:27They're all over my house.
12:28They're in every...
12:29If I were to write down right now every nook and cranny where Evelyn Jade's clothes might
12:33be, that list is going to be long because it's got a box here, a box there.
12:36Yeah, so I've got to apply these principles in my own life.
12:38Yes, I do.
12:39Wow.
12:39So, you want to talk about some...
12:42But what are any other little tactics you have for keeping things organized in and around
12:47your house?
12:47I mean, my newest mentality is don't be afraid to throw something in the trash.
12:55I like that.
12:56Like, I just...
12:57I can't.
12:58I can't make a pile in my house that is going to go to Goodwill and then have a pile that
13:03I'm going to pass down to another kid.
13:06How about the repurposers?
13:07How about people who repurpose stuff?
13:08I just...
13:09I can't.
13:11Me and my wife had this talk actually like last night and we're just like, you know
13:14what?
13:14No more.
13:15No more.
13:16Like, we want minimal.
13:18Like, I don't want a bunch of stuff and trash bags marked with the year 2016 on them in
13:24this closet.
13:24I'm just done.
13:25Get rid of it.
13:26If I need more, I'll buy more.
13:28If I have another kid one day, I'll just rebuy.
13:31You know what?
13:32I can't have it in the house.
13:34I'm just done.
13:35Just...
13:35I don't know.
13:36Do you feel me here?
13:36I totally feel you.
13:38And I know some people out there are not going to feel this at all because there are
13:41a lot of repurposers and people who are very conscious of everything needs to go to it's
13:45to continue into the life cycle to be very resourceful.
13:48For example, I have a girlfriend who she repurposes everything.
13:52I mean, think of the most like a bridesmaid dress.
13:55Those are so not repurposable.
13:56She would turn a bridesmaid dress into a bikini if she needed to.
13:59You know, whereas we'd be like, get rid of it.
14:02You're not going to wear it again.
14:03So I think that you just have to know what kind of person you are.
14:07And I don't know about you, but when I do have those moments of having to get rid of
14:12something and knowing like maybe I wasn't completely, maybe it's a little bit wasteful to throw it
14:16in the trash.
14:17Yeah.
14:17I allow myself to feel enough guilt so that I don't make that similar purchase next time.
14:22That's my correction.
14:23Yeah.
14:23Okay.
14:24Learn from your mistakes.
14:25Yes.
14:25Yeah.
14:26So you're right.
14:27It's be a minimalist.
14:28Do they really need it?
14:29Can they share with someone else?
14:31Things like that.
14:31I have one shirt that my mom saved from when I was a kid.
14:37And it is like for a three month old and it's purple and in yellow letters on the back,
14:43it says fuck.
14:44Are we the same person?
14:46Was it for the Minnesota Vikings or something?
14:48Cause they're purple.
14:48It looks the colors, but I have a, I have a Roxanne shirt that's orange.
14:54Cause it was Leroy Salmon's jersey, but a t-shirt.
14:56Yeah.
14:56His number on it.
14:58Well, I don't know.
14:59Maybe she saved it because it said my name and I don't know.
15:02It's the only thing I have from being a kid that, you know.
15:05And does Jackson wear that?
15:07He did.
15:07But when I, when I found it, I found it in the attic and when I put it on him, it was
15:12Oh, probably one time and it was too tight for him.
15:15Right.
15:15Right.
15:16So I, I barely caught it.
15:17I got one picture and I was like, that's cool.
15:19But now, and then no way it fits him now.
15:21Right.
15:22No, no way.
15:22Okay.
15:23Well, you just hang on to it.
15:23That's your one little piece of nostalgia.
15:25That's it.
15:26You get one.
15:27You hear me?
15:27You get one.
15:28Get rid of it.
15:29Take it back to that time period.
15:30Or you can just keep an old phone like this to take you back in time when you want to.
15:34Okay.
15:34We're going to go through a couple of Marie's tips and sort of tailor them to how they would
15:41fit into baby stuff and kid stuff.
15:44Totally agree with this.
15:45Tackle categories, not rooms.
15:47That's what I just talked about.
15:48Okay.
15:48Dig out the clothes from every nook and cranny.
15:50Dig out the toys from every room.
15:52Consolidate them in a playroom.
15:54I like that.
15:56Separate it if you have a playroom.
15:57A lot of people don't.
15:58Right.
15:59The playroom for me is my kid's room.
16:02Right.
16:02Mm-hmm.
16:03I know.
16:03And that's tough.
16:04Yeah.
16:04Yeah.
16:05Because it just grows and grows and grows and grows.
16:08You know what?
16:08I did separate a few things.
16:10I've got these big bins I bought at Target.
16:12And I've got dinosaurs in one, cars in another, and his train stuff in another.
16:18Right.
16:18Now, he gets them all out at the same time and stuff.
16:21But I just, I've taught him how to separate.
16:22I've taught him how.
16:23That's kind of, yeah.
16:24Okay.
16:24See, I'm following.
16:25That's a good point.
16:26That's a good point.
16:26That brings me to the next one.
16:28Purging feels so good.
16:29Yep.
16:30So I think you kind of have to teach your kids to purge.
16:33Mark Jason, been on the podcast before.
16:35He talked about, he's got his five kids.
16:37He tells them all, okay, we're going to have this one day a week or something where we have
16:42to with that many children to be purging, you know, and to make that a part of your
16:45routine.
16:47And also, nostalgia's not your friend.
16:48We talked about that.
16:49Respect your belongings.
16:51Respect your things.
16:51Respect.
16:52Yes.
16:52You better not throw that toy.
16:54And then it's like, I'm cleaning up at night, just throwing stuff places on.
16:57Yeah.
16:58So that's hard to do sometimes.
16:59I noticed when I, when I pick up my son's toys, like we're doing it together, is if I
17:05don't throw it in the bin, then he doesn't throw it in the bin.
17:08Like, if I set it soft, I see him set it soft.
17:12So I'm like, okay, even though I just want to toss it in and hurry up and clean it, you
17:16can't.
17:17You can't.
17:17They're watching.
17:18You can't.
17:18Exactly.
17:19They're watching everything.
17:20I've got another story about that.
17:21I've got to share with you at some point.
17:23Okay.
17:23Also, you want to, oh, she gets into folding.
17:26We're not going to go through these tips on folding, but maybe.
17:29Okay.
17:29But can we hear from her on folding?
17:31Let's just.
17:31Oh, like a clip?
17:32It's a minute long.
17:33We just want to hear what she has to say.
17:34All right.
17:34All right.
17:37Oh.
17:38Well, there might be a problem.
17:47I'm going to have to translate.
17:48Okay.
17:51All right.
17:52Well, I'm not a translator.
17:54I'm sorry.
17:55Let me tell you what she said.
17:56Yes.
17:56You got to fold it.
17:57Yes.
17:57And she goes on to, yeah, this is a visual thing.
17:59All right.
18:00Well, we'll, we'll scratch that onto a great topic, Buck, that you brought, you brought
18:04up last week, Kelsey having the baby here at the office, the five things you must have
18:10because some of the stuff just goes and sits in different places around your house.
18:13Some of it only gets used once, but the five things you got when you had a new baby and
18:17they're still relevant.
18:19That's it.
18:20They're the big ticket items, but that's cool.
18:21You want to, yeah, they're the big ticket items.
18:23You want to make sure when you're buying stuff or you have a baby shower that you put these
18:26on your list because I was amazed here I am four years later and we're still using them.
18:32I was telling a buddy of mine, I was like, dude, make sure you get these because you're
18:36going to keep using these.
18:37This is crazy.
18:38So number one is a stroller.
18:41Still use it.
18:41I got, I have the wobbly wheel now, but still use it.
18:43Right.
18:44But if you're going to theme parks, it's a must because not only for your kid, but you're
18:49you can put like your bags and your drinks and stuff on it.
18:51One time, you know how they had the little bin underneath?
18:54Yeah.
18:54One time I forgot my stroller when I went to Disney World.
18:57Yes, I forgot my stroller with my sister.
19:00And so my sister had her stroller and she had the little thing underneath and I put my
19:02daughter in there.
19:04Hey, it's child size.
19:07That's funny.
19:09This goes along with stroller car seat.
19:12I mean, obviously you have to have it.
19:14And those last a long time.
19:15Last a long time.
19:16A lot of them make them where you can pull them out and put them in the stroller.
19:19And they attach and all that.
19:20That's nice.
19:20So you have to have that.
19:23I put, I put on there a sound machine.
19:26Now this, a lot of people don't think about this kind of thing, but there's apps on your
19:31phones.
19:31I got a great free one if anybody wants to know, but we have something you plug in and
19:35it's a little nightlight, but you hit a button and it plays like white noise.
19:39Right.
19:40People don't sleep on this.
19:42You need this in your life.
19:44And to your point, is it going to last years from now?
19:47Yes.
19:47They still need that to go to sleep.
19:49You've created that habit.
19:50That's part of their routine.
19:51Right.
19:52Picture this.
19:53Okay.
19:54You're putting your baby to sleep.
19:56Finally, finally she falls asleep.
19:59All you want to do is watch some TV, some Game of Thrones, have some wine.
20:04You want to be able to go, cheers, and turn up the volume of your movie or your show without
20:11waking the child up.
20:12You need a buffer.
20:13You need a buffer.
20:15Throw in that white noise, a nice ocean breeze, and enjoy your night.
20:22Or you can just listen to that ocean breeze yourself.
20:24Yeah, you can.
20:25It's been that kind of day.
20:25You can.
20:27Something else on the list is a baby monitor.
20:29Of course.
20:30Now, this is great because my son is four, and we can still keep an eye on him.
20:35In fact, we use it when he's in his room, awake, playing with his toys, and we're in
20:41the kitchen cooking or something.
20:42And then you can watch him, see what he's up to.
20:43That's it.
20:44Because they don't have that comprehension of mommy and daddy.
20:46They might know Santa is watching them, but they don't know mommy and daddy are watching.
20:50And you kind of get an idea of how they'll push their limits.
20:54That's it.
20:54That's it.
20:55And you can see.
20:56And my son attempted to tell me he's going to play in his room with his door closed the
21:01other day.
21:01You said, oh, no, not happening.
21:03That was a hard no on that.
21:04But nice try, buddy.
21:05You're only four.
21:06Yeah.
21:07I'm watching you, by the way.
21:09You need to come to my house and give that lecture to Doug and Evelyn Jade because they
21:13are both compulsive door shutters.
21:15It's the weirdest thing.
21:16It's so annoying.
21:17Yes.
21:17No.
21:17And I took the locks off his door.
21:19So anyway, side note.
21:21Last item, number five.
21:22I'll put these two together.
21:24And that is diapers and baby wipes.
21:27Mm-hmm.
21:27Do you, are you, are you a guy who has a preference for one?
21:31A brand?
21:31Brand snob?
21:32My sister's such a brand snob.
21:34She's like, I don't use Pampers.
21:35I don't use Pampers.
21:37Pampers is the best to buy.
21:40I have gone cheap before and my wife will make fun of me for this.
21:44I have gone cheap and, oh.
21:46It never pays.
21:47And now my son's at the age where if they're not Pampers, he refuses to wear them.
21:50Are you kidding?
21:51How does he know the difference?
21:52They feel, they feel different.
21:55They're not the same material.
21:56Sometimes the Velcro on the sides will poke him or rub him.
22:00Wow.
22:01And leave red marks.
22:02Right.
22:03So he'll, he'll take them off.
22:04He'll take them off.
22:05But of course, wipes, clean up.
22:08Fabulous.
22:09All the time for messes, for any situation.
22:12And I will leave you with that.