Barth & Kyles Discuss If LSU QB Jayden Daniels is a PERFECT FIT for Patriots?

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As the Patriots' season turns into a battle for top draft position, the question becomes - who should the Patriots target at QB? Among the name that have been discussed is LSU and Heisman candidate Jayden Daniels. Taylor Kyles and Alex Barth of 98.5 The Sports Hub discuss why he might just be the right fit in New England.   This episode of the Patriots Daily Podcast Show  is brought to you by:  SeatGeek! Use code DREAMERSPRO for $20 off your first SeatGeek order! Visit SeatGeek.com ! With NFL, NBA and NHL seasons in full swing you don’t want to miss out - SeatGeek has your tickets to every game!  FanDuel Sportsbook, the exclusive wagering parter of the CLNS Media NetworkRight now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! So, visit https://FanDuel.com/BOSTON and kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, Official Partner of the NFL. 21+ and present in MA. Hope is here. First online real money wager only. $5 pregame moneyline wager required. First onlinereal money wager only. $10 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets that expire 7 days after receipt. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. GamblingHelpLineMa.org or call (800)-327-5050 for 24/7 support. Play it smart from the start! GameSenseMA.com or call 1-800-GAM-1234. ￼￼  Visit https://Linkedin.com/BEAT to post your first job for free! LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Did you know every week, nearly 40 million job seekers visit LinkedIn.￼￼￼  Factor! Visit https://factormeals.com/PATSDAILY50 to get 50% off your first box! Factor is America’s #1 Ready-To-Eat Meal Kit, can help you fuel up fast with ready-to-eat meals delivered straight to your door.

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00:00 But another guy who I think mentally, at least in his ability to grow and

00:04 develop on a pretty rapid pace, Jaden Daniels.

00:09 16 for 24, 235 yards, four touchdowns.

00:13 That was passing, running, he had 11 carries for 120 yards, a 10.9 average.

00:19 Everybody already knows he's a dual threat, he really showed it.

00:22 Now I will say this was a game against Texas A&M, where I thought early on,

00:27 I just didn't see a lot of NFL quality plays with his arm.

00:30 I didn't see a ton of, granted I'm watching the broadcast, so

00:34 it's hard to really know.

00:35 But I wasn't seeing a ton of anticipation throws,

00:37 I wasn't seeing any really challenging plays or anything like that.

00:40 He was making stuff happen with his legs, but then in the fourth quarter,

00:44 they were just like, all right, yeah, we're gonna give you some goal balls,

00:46 just sling it.

00:47 And that's where all the touchdowns came from, and

00:49 that's where they started to find some juice.

00:51 What did you think of this Jaden Daniels performance?

00:53 And as he is in a race for a Heisman, maybe the front runner right now,

00:57 after that performance, what did you think?

00:59 And do you think he really does deserve to be as high in the Heisman debate

01:04 relative to that game as he currently is?

01:07 >> Yeah, he should win the Heisman.

01:08 He's been outstanding, and it was cool to kinda see him settle in and

01:13 kinda have that rough start and bounce back.

01:15 Cuz there's been other guys like Drake May.

01:16 Drake May had a rough start this week, and we didn't get to him a ton.

01:19 I didn't think he was great, I thought he had another down performance.

01:22 Drake May didn't start great, and it snowballed off.

01:26 Whereas Jaden Daniels, and that's a game that, I mean,

01:28 Texas A&M just fired Jimbo Fisher, right?

01:30 They're bringing in a new head coach.

01:33 I could understand how else you might overlook that game, or

01:35 at the very least, it's a tough game to prepare for.

01:37 So I get it, he came out a little slow, bounced back in the second half.

01:42 Yeah, Texas A&M isn't the most talented team,

01:45 despite all the money they spent on NIL.

01:47 Or if they are talented, they're not using the players right.

01:50 But it's an SEC defense, it's a top half of the SEC team that he tore up.

01:57 Yeah, he was outstanding again.

01:59 I talked about it before, he's the anti-BoNix, where that big play potential,

02:05 there's so much, you're just drooling seeing what he can do if he's put in

02:10 the right situation in the NFL, and he flashed a little bit more of that.

02:13 So I see people in the chat talking about his size,

02:17 that is obviously the chief concern.

02:19 His size and just does he take care of himself?

02:22 He's very reckless when he runs the ball in terms of taking tackles rather than

02:25 going out of bounds or sliding.

02:27 But no, he's been, I said this year has been a roller coaster for

02:32 a lot of quarterbacks.

02:34 And I mean that in like, a lot of guys are not where they were

02:40 when the season started in terms of draft expectations.

02:43 Jaden Daniels, his draft projections hardly been consistent, but

02:48 it's just constantly, I mean it's shooting up.

02:51 It's just shooting straight up and it continues to do that.

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03:10 >> Real quick, Dane Bruegler came out with his first mock draft.

03:16 And number two, he had the Patriots taking Drake May.

03:19 Now if you listen to the athletic podcast that he does with Nate Tice,

03:22 they were all talking about Jaden Daniels and how he is shooting up draft boards.

03:26 Like the explosive plays that he's accounted for are insane.

03:29 Again, like I compare him to Hertz because Hertz is someone who every single year of

03:33 his career has taken significant strides.

03:36 Where it's like it's a completely different person.

03:38 And Jaden Daniels, a lot of the talk is the same thing.

03:41 Where even when he was at Arizona, was it Arizona or Arizona State?

03:44 I'm getting a mix up.

03:44 >> Arizona State.

03:45 >> Arizona State, that's what I thought.

03:47 Even in his last year there, you started to see him make strides.

03:50 And then at LSU, he's not turning the ball over as much.

03:53 He's still making the big plays.

03:55 So in that kind of conversation, because I'm having this debate in my head.

03:59 Do you take Drake May considering that everybody just kind of agrees,

04:02 it seems that he and Caleb Williams are 1A, 1B?

04:06 Or are you in the mindset of this kind of where I'm at, where maybe honestly,

04:10 if you get a two or three pick, you trade back to the end of the top ten.

04:14 Maybe even top 15, depending on where Jaden Daniels is projected to go.

04:18 Try to get some more capital and then get him there.

04:21 Because he's still a really good prospect.

04:23 And because the Patriots have so many holes,

04:25 I think getting more capital is probably ideal for them.

04:29 >> Yeah, so I think the idea of do you trade back a couple spots,

04:32 take QB three, then trade back into the first round and

04:34 take a tackle or receiver in that second tier.

04:36 I think that that's a real conversation.

04:39 What I would add to that though is, is Jaden Daniels QB three or is he QB two?

04:44 >> I think there's a real chance there.

04:46 >> I think by the time we- >> By the time we're all said and

04:48 done, that Jaden Daniels passes, in the eyes of some teams,

04:52 I don't know that every team will see it this way, but

04:54 all it takes is the team with the pick, right?

04:56 The big thing is gonna be when we get to the, so

05:00 the senior bowl would be a big one for Jaden Daniels.

05:03 And honestly, Drake May, he should probably go, cuz he just hasn't had that

05:08 performance since a good defense yet, we need to see him throw against top players.

05:11 But when we get to the combine, does Jaden Daniels put on 10 pounds?

05:17 >> Mm-hm.

05:19 >> Between the end of the season and the combine.

05:21 >> And it's like 215.

05:21 >> And then if he does that, right, yeah, if he can get up to even 220,

05:25 even if he puts on five pounds.

05:27 But I'm saying if he's listed at 215 in college, he's probably 210.

05:30 >> Yeah.

05:31 >> We'll get to real, guys usually weigh in less at the combine, but

05:34 if he can come in at 220 at the combine and still run,

05:40 there's been unsubstantiated reports he runs a four, four.

05:44 But I don't know how realistic that is.

05:46 >> Is that what I texted you, that he probably runs a four, four, eight?

05:49 >> I think so.

05:50 Let me say that if he can get to the combine at 220 and run a four, six,

05:55 there's a real conversation about him and Drake May.

06:01 >> Yeah.

06:02 >> A real conversation.

06:03 Now, we just don't have those numbers yet.

06:05 And yes, playing quarterback at 215 in the NFL is a big ask,

06:10 especially odds are a team drafting him doesn't have a good offensive line.

06:13 He's gonna get hit a lot.

06:15 But yeah, if he can bulk up a little bit and still show he's as athletic,

06:20 there's gonna be real questions about him and May.

06:23 Cuz right now I think Drake May's floor is a little higher,

06:27 the ceiling's comparable.

06:28 >> Yeah.

06:28 >> I do believe the ceiling on the two is comparable.

06:30 There's just a little less boss potential with Drake May because of his size.

06:35 And I think the pedigree is part of it.

06:36 Drake May was a five star recruit, originally committed to Alabama,

06:40 all of that.

06:40 Jane Daniels, this guy that's, he's kind of had a journey,

06:44 five year college player, had a transfer, multiple college coaches.

06:48 That's sort of what's setting them apart right now.

06:50 Jane Daniels comes in and shows he can physically hold up to the NFL and

06:55 interviews well.

06:57 Yeah, he's gonna be right there with Drake May.

06:58 >> I agree.

06:59 And again, I need to watch y'all 22.

07:00 And that's been my thing is I'm trying to get my hands on enough tape that I can

07:03 definitively really see these guys as quarterbacks, not as athletes,

07:06 not as guys with arm talent.

07:08 Like I honestly, having a good arm is great.

07:11 Obviously, everybody wants somebody with an arm.

07:13 It just doesn't do it for me.

07:14 I need to see how you play the position, how you process the game.

07:17 And from what I've seen, Jane Daniels, in terms of consistency and

07:21 using his athleticism as a bonus rather than a crutch,

07:23 I think that it's him in a class by himself.

07:26 And then it's Caleb Williams and Drake May as guys who are more physically maybe,

07:30 I wouldn't even say more exciting.

07:31 Cuz like you said, Drake May, I think is comparable.

07:33 But yeah, I absolutely agree that he could really sneak up and

07:35 make it a conversation.

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