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00:00:00Can you say hard hats folks? Hard hats, lunch pail, steel tool, boots.

00:00:08Anything short of a championship this year is a failure.

00:00:10Look at this boomer right here.

00:00:12You've just got so much talent here.

00:00:14Somebody said we need to apologize for Jalen.

00:00:16Can I pull the John? What are we apologizing for? What did we say? What did we do?

00:00:30We're back, Bobby.

00:00:32What?

00:00:34For everyone who watches The Office,

00:00:36I am the living embodiment of that

00:00:38Jim Halpert, what is going on?

00:00:40meme right now.

00:00:42Cut the music.

00:00:44Like, what is going on?

00:00:46We were coming on here

00:00:48to talk about

00:00:50the Derek White contract extension

00:00:52which is great. I'm not going to say

00:00:54predicted. We had some questions yesterday

00:00:56whether it would happen. I was leaning yes

00:00:58and it happened and there was rejoicing

00:01:00and then another bombshell

00:01:02since that happened

00:01:04it was

00:01:06Wick Grousbeck and the Celtics

00:01:08are going to

00:01:10are looking to sell the team

00:01:12after this year. That's it.

00:01:14Like, wow.

00:01:16Right?

00:01:18And I think people are still trying to

00:01:20wrap their minds around is this a good thing?

00:01:22Is this a bad thing?

00:01:24But

00:01:27I don't know. We'll have to kind of wait

00:01:29and see so let's react

00:01:31to the news. I think

00:01:33backwards here. I wanted to do White first

00:01:35but I think I got to go with Wick here.

00:01:37I think you're right.

00:01:39You got to go with the most recent because

00:01:41it's the one that involves

00:01:43a fair amount of unpacking to

00:01:45figure out what it is that's going on

00:01:47here. Celtics ownership group

00:01:49led by Wick Grousbeck planning to make the team

00:01:51available for sale. A little bit more

00:01:53insight into it with this

00:01:55statement that was released

00:01:57here and can I see all of it? Yeah.

00:01:59Boston Celtics, Boston

00:02:01Basketball Partners LLC, the ownership group

00:02:03of the Boston Celtics announced its intention to sell

00:02:05shares of the team

00:02:07controlling family of the ownership group after

00:02:09considerable thought and internal discussion decided to sell

00:02:11the team for estate and family consideration.

00:02:13Managing board of the ownership

00:02:15group expects to sell

00:02:17majority interest in 2024-25

00:02:19with the balance closing in 28.

00:02:21Expect Wick Grousbeck to remain

00:02:23the governor until closing in

00:02:2528. So that's it.

00:02:27Out.

00:02:29I guess I'll get your initial

00:02:31reaction first, Bobby. I have some thoughts

00:02:33but I'm still just trying to wrap my mind around a few

00:02:35elements of this but

00:02:37I think fans right now are kind of looking

00:02:39at Wick a little bit as a

00:02:41martyr. He did what it

00:02:43took. He paid the bill. It's a little

00:02:45bit of a dine and dash situation.

00:02:47He

00:02:49ordered the most expensive champagne

00:02:51and had a terrific

00:02:53meal and served it up to Celtics fans

00:02:55and now the bill is

00:02:57going to come due and we're in second apron

00:02:59hell going forward

00:03:01and a monumental tax

00:03:03bill. Out.

00:03:05Cash out. And that's it.

00:03:07That's...

00:03:09It's understandable.

00:03:11We joked about this, Bobby, which is

00:03:13why we were always afraid in the past, right?

00:03:15I don't know if Wick's going to go there with the money.

00:03:17If he's going to go deep into the tax

00:03:19and all of those things because

00:03:21he is...

00:03:23It's weird to call somebody

00:03:25who's a multi-millionaire

00:03:27poor, but by NBA owner's

00:03:29standards, he's not one of the top dog

00:03:31super rich multi-billionaire

00:03:33guy in terms of assets. His greatest asset

00:03:35is the team and now

00:03:37he's cashing it in. Bought it for $316

00:03:39and the estimated return here is going to be

00:03:41five bill on this thing

00:03:43which is banana. Yeah, at least, right?

00:03:45Who knows what that championship did

00:03:47for the evaluation here.

00:03:49And think of the increase over 2002

00:03:51as you see there. $360 million.

00:03:531,200%

00:03:55increase in the valuation of the

00:03:57team. So, given the new financial

00:03:59reality of the league, the luxury

00:04:01tax situation, and we can

00:04:03take a look at that in a little bit here

00:04:05in terms of what the Celtics are paying.

00:04:07This

00:04:09felt inevitable.

00:04:11Now, did we expect it this soon?

00:04:13No. But when you look at the timeline

00:04:15as the Celtics laid out there that

00:04:17this is going to take until 2028,

00:04:19it makes some sense that they're starting this now.

00:04:21His goal always was

00:04:23banner 18, right?

00:04:25And he'll obviously be there for their repeat

00:04:27attempt and the

00:04:29third year

00:04:31run back if they're trying to do a repeat here

00:04:33if they repeat next year. So, he's

00:04:35here for that window, right John?

00:04:37And then, once the uncertainty

00:04:39begins around 2027,

00:04:412028, they're going to transition

00:04:43to undoubtedly a much

00:04:45more wealthy group or individual

00:04:47here. And tough to speculate

00:04:49on who that could be.

00:04:51But obviously, there's some big names

00:04:53that have gotten involved in the

00:04:55chase for franchises around the league.

00:04:57Matt Ishbia, the

00:04:59mortgage giant out there in Phoenix.

00:05:01Michael Bloomberg got involved

00:05:03in the Minnesota sale, which is about

00:05:05as rich as you can get as far

00:05:07as owners go. So, that's the kind of money we're talking

00:05:09about now with ownership

00:05:11groups in this league. And it will

00:05:13almost undoubtedly be a group

00:05:15that buys this team. But at least according to the statement

00:05:17there, I know Adam Simelsbach put

00:05:19out a statement that the other owners are

00:05:21looking to stay intact.

00:05:23That statement makes it sound like,

00:05:25John, that Wick's out.

00:05:27Pagliuca is out.

00:05:29All the owners from this group

00:05:31obviously oversaw so much success

00:05:33in the later years of their

00:05:35ownership here are out.

00:05:37So, certainly some anxiety

00:05:39and uncertainty

00:05:41warranted here.

00:05:43This is a group, John, obviously that

00:05:45prioritized winning

00:05:47basketball and

00:05:49investing in the

00:05:51franchise over maybe making

00:05:53as much money as they could

00:05:55or

00:05:57managing the bottom

00:05:59line. And

00:06:01they certainly showed that aggressiveness

00:06:03to go into the tax that some other teams

00:06:05with their money might not have been

00:06:07able to do here in recent years.

00:06:09I get the slight panic

00:06:11here among fans

00:06:13because

00:06:15your GM,

00:06:17you can mess around with that. That can change

00:06:19year in and year out.

00:06:21Your coach, that's going to change.

00:06:23If you don't get a good

00:06:25owner here,

00:06:27that's life, right?

00:06:29The rest of your life is probably going to be in the next

00:06:31ownership group. It's crazy,

00:06:33right? Because

00:06:35a couple of years ago, people were

00:06:37crying for a sale because it was a fear that

00:06:39WIC wouldn't go deep into the tax

00:06:41or spend or they'd always

00:06:43try to stay low here.

00:06:45And oftentimes, prior to a sale,

00:06:47Bobby, you go in the opposite direction.

00:06:49You start to trim it

00:06:51down to make it more attractive

00:06:53to sell, which is not sign

00:06:55anybody. So the fact that he did

00:06:57this with the intention of selling is interesting

00:06:59and kind of unorthodox.

00:07:01People thought John Henry might have been trying to do the

00:07:03same thing

00:07:05with the team,

00:07:07with the Red Sox, when they stopped spending money.

00:07:09And really, he was just being

00:07:11more prudent

00:07:13and cheap, I guess,

00:07:15depending on how you want to say it.

00:07:17But

00:07:19in this case, it's

00:07:21the opposite direction. There's a massive

00:07:23bill. Anybody coming in knows that they're going to have

00:07:25to pay big. And I guess what

00:07:27gives you pause here is seeing,

00:07:29yeah, is there a world in which

00:07:31owners come in and they're like,

00:07:33as I've always said, owners should view

00:07:35these things not as a business, but as a vanity.

00:07:37I've always wanted to own a team, and I own

00:07:39it, and it costs what it costs, but it's not my number

00:07:41one moneymaker. I have another successful

00:07:43business doing other things. And

00:07:45this is just my, what are you looking at, Bobby? This is

00:07:47a terrifying expression

00:07:49on your face.

00:07:57But then you see something like Steve

00:07:59Miller, who's

00:08:01one of the top 10 richest people on the

00:08:03planet,

00:08:05deciding that

00:08:07the Clippers, that he didn't want to

00:08:09spend for Paul George, and they want

00:08:11to operate under the second apron.

00:08:13What?

00:08:15What are we talking about?

00:08:17This is banana land to me.

00:08:19I woke up

00:08:21richest people in the world.

00:08:23See who's

00:08:25going to be in the mix here?

00:08:27Who knows, man?

00:08:29It's

00:08:31crazy. It's crazy

00:08:33here. It is crazy,

00:08:35but it's expected, right? Wick wasn't going

00:08:37to own this team forever. We knew

00:08:39at some point, as the cost

00:08:41of overseeing this team continued

00:08:43to rise, that he

00:08:45would make a sale. It's

00:08:47just a different era for the league now. It's

00:08:49difficult for

00:08:51him to keep up with

00:08:53the cost of this team, I'd imagine,

00:08:55given the tax payments they're going to have to

00:08:57make here into the future. We've

00:08:59had our conversation, John. Obviously, the top

00:09:01five is locked up now. The starting lineup

00:09:03is locked up through 2026.

00:09:05You can split up

00:09:07any one of those guys into multiple smaller

00:09:09contracts when the time

00:09:11comes, but that's still going to

00:09:13involve staying in the tax.

00:09:15That's still going to involve paying big

00:09:17money for this team until you start

00:09:19to just let guys go and, at that point,

00:09:21do a little bit of a mini reset

00:09:23at that time. The timing here makes sense

00:09:25because when Wick and those

00:09:27guys get out, it's going to be around the time

00:09:29that you

00:09:31start to go into a new era there

00:09:33with Tatum or Brown or whoever it might be

00:09:35at that point.

00:09:37He's here for this next couple-year run.

00:09:39Brad's here for this next couple-year

00:09:41run. Then, after that,

00:09:43who knows what's going to be left over here

00:09:45beyond the pieces that they have right

00:09:47now.

00:09:49You've got to be thrilled, and you've got to realize

00:09:51if you're the Celtics right now,

00:09:53this next year, two, three,

00:09:55it's all or nothing.

00:09:57You've got to go for it.

00:09:59You've got to do everything you can to win these next

00:10:01handful of years. That's why

00:10:03Derek White is extended

00:10:05here. That's why Sam Houser

00:10:07is probably going to be extended here.

00:10:09You've just got to keep as much of this roster

00:10:11together as you can.

00:10:13Then, it's going to be on the next

00:10:15ownership group to figure out what to do from there.

00:10:17They're obviously going to have deeper pockets

00:10:19to figure it out

00:10:21at that point.

00:10:23Obviously, everybody is just

00:10:25clamoring to see who

00:10:27will it be?

00:10:29What are their priorities?

00:10:31Are they as focused on winning

00:10:33as the Celtics group was?

00:10:35Is the next group just going to be trying to make

00:10:37money? Then, there's a million questions beyond that.

00:10:39They don't own the building.

00:10:41Would that ownership group look to build a new arena

00:10:43or something like that?

00:10:45You just don't see that.

00:10:47You just don't really see that.

00:10:49That would be difficult.

00:10:53It's a long term. This isn't

00:10:55selling the team tomorrow.

00:10:57This is a long, long term.

00:10:59It's a lot to unpack.

00:11:03It's not panic time,

00:11:05but it's certainly a

00:11:07stunning headline to read today.

00:11:11Again, minutes after

00:11:13the

00:11:15and I know this is what everyone's freaking out over.

00:11:19Nobody wants to see that.

00:11:21Someone's got to kidnap John Henry.

00:11:23Actually, if I say that and it happens,

00:11:25I'm probably going to be an accessory.

00:11:27John Henry can't be

00:11:29allowed

00:11:31to do this.

00:11:33He cannot be allowed.

00:11:35He's the first name you think of.

00:11:37He is.

00:11:39He is.

00:11:41He is.

00:11:43Holy crap.

00:11:45Holy crap.

00:11:47The reason we're talking about this first is it requires

00:11:49a lot of unpacking.

00:11:51We don't know exactly what it means.

00:11:53Honestly, you won't know what it means until

00:11:55you move forward

00:11:57with the sale

00:11:59and find out who the person

00:12:01is going to be and whatever.

00:12:03Let's be realistic.

00:12:05Wick spent because he knew

00:12:07he was cashing out.

00:12:09Would he have continued to do this forever

00:12:11if he remained owner? No.

00:12:13The people out there saying

00:12:15this is a bad thing, let's be real.

00:12:17Wick did what he did

00:12:19and is doing what he's doing because

00:12:21he went all in for a championship.

00:12:23Yes, it is going to be somebody

00:12:25else's mess to clean up, but if Wick didn't

00:12:27sell, Wick would have

00:12:29had to find a way, financially

00:12:31speaking, to get this team out of the

00:12:33second apron and not have to pay

00:12:35this hefty tax bill year after year

00:12:37very soon, which meant

00:12:39if it stayed under Wick and this ownership

00:12:41group, they would have had to find a way out of it.

00:12:43Anybody thinking the new person is going to

00:12:45come in and got it, Wick would have probably

00:12:47had to do it also.

00:12:49He gets out clean,

00:12:51he cashes in,

00:12:53and it's less about

00:12:55the new owner and it's more just about the new

00:12:57economic reality of the NBA,

00:12:59of who you have.

00:13:01Yes, there's definitely concern that you would bring in

00:13:03a John Henry type.

00:13:05That's scary, but

00:13:07ownership is ownership.

00:13:09If you're an owner, if you own the team, Bobby,

00:13:11and your GM's coming to you and be like, can I get this

00:13:13and can I get that, you'd have

00:13:15to think like, look, man, for

00:13:17a contender I'll spend.

00:13:19I'm going to out myself a little

00:13:21bit here.

00:13:23John Henry's philosophy is actually correct,

00:13:25but the

00:13:27way he goes about it and the way he talks to

00:13:29fans like they're idiots

00:13:31and that

00:13:33no one will understand

00:13:35is what hurts him. It's his

00:13:37presentation. It's the fact that he's an alien

00:13:39and doesn't understand

00:13:41how the plebs think.

00:13:43Yeah, you should not be...

00:13:45The Clippers are doing it now. I'm looking at

00:13:47this roster and I don't see a championship

00:13:49team, so we're going to go backwards

00:13:51to take a step forwards.

00:13:53That's what you're supposed

00:13:55to do. You can't just say, throw money

00:13:57at everything. The Celtics threw money at

00:13:59everything here because they felt really good about

00:14:01their championship chances and they feel

00:14:03good about their window here in the next two to three

00:14:05years, but then going forward, there's

00:14:07going to be some gutting and honestly, very

00:14:09likely to feature only one Supermax

00:14:11player and not two.

00:14:13You got to decide which of these guys you

00:14:15like best because this wouldn't

00:14:17be shocking that something like that is going to happen

00:14:19in a couple of years. It's not a today

00:14:21problem, but the economic reality of the

00:14:23NBA, the bill is coming due for someone

00:14:25at some point and it would have

00:14:27come due for Wick, who

00:14:29has some difficult decisions going forward.

00:14:31I'm not super concerned that

00:14:33the new guy is going to be cheap.

00:14:35No, the new guy is going to be faced with the same

00:14:37economic reality that everybody else is.

00:14:39The downside, and

00:14:41this is fair, is Wick

00:14:43was a fan, but Wick was a fan

00:14:45who also knew that he had

00:14:49that he wasn't

00:14:51made of money.

00:14:55He had limitations

00:14:57and yes, it does help when they're a fan as

00:14:59opposed to, like I said,

00:15:01the worst thing about John Henry is they

00:15:03claim they were fans when they came in and now he's using

00:15:05the word asset to describe the Red Sox

00:15:07and they're buying a bunch of other stuff and you don't know

00:15:09where his loyalty lies. Yes, absolutely.

00:15:11You want somebody who kind

00:15:13of gets it and that makes

00:15:15a difference.

00:15:17You have it with Kraft

00:15:19and you have it here

00:15:21with Wick. You've never had

00:15:23it with the Bruins and that's why everybody hates

00:15:25the Red Sox.

00:15:27So yeah, that would be

00:15:29nice, but I don't know. I really don't know what it's going to be.

00:15:31It'll be interesting when the names start to

00:15:33pop up and who knows? I think that's going to

00:15:35start happening pretty soon.

00:15:37You'll start to hear some ideas.

00:15:39I mean, if the idea is that they're cashing out

00:15:41by the end of the year, by the end

00:15:43of the next season,

00:15:45I think there's going to be some people here.

00:15:47Yeah, and the other ownership

00:15:49groups emerged pretty quickly in those other situations

00:15:51after Sarver sold the Suns

00:15:53and Glenn Taylor put the Wolves up

00:15:55for sale. So it's going to

00:15:57be pretty notable names. You have to

00:15:59imagine given the cost of this franchise

00:16:01and maybe it will be Henry. The Henry

00:16:03thing's interesting. If you're him,

00:16:05obviously his target had

00:16:07been Vegas.

00:16:09That franchise

00:16:11still seems uncertain.

00:16:13I know Silver's still kicking around Mexico

00:16:15City and they just keep

00:16:17kicking back that whole thing because of the TV

00:16:19negotiation here. So that

00:16:21doesn't look like it's going to happen until close

00:16:23to the end of the decade

00:16:25there. Obviously, there's

00:16:27a massive

00:16:29expansion fee associated

00:16:31with that. So I'm sure that would be,

00:16:33believe it or not, a more expensive purchase

00:16:35for FSG

00:16:37considering that to go

00:16:39out there to Vegas. I'm sure they'll have to build a new

00:16:41arena out there to go back to that conversation

00:16:43unless they're just moving in

00:16:45that T-Mobile arena

00:16:47out there. So do you pivot

00:16:49to the team in your backyard?

00:16:51Obviously, I

00:16:53think there'd be some appeal there

00:16:55to having another team in the same city.

00:16:57It's

00:16:59hard not to go to that name.

00:17:01He wanted the Bruins, couldn't

00:17:03get the Bruins, got the Penguins instead.

00:17:05Right.

00:17:07From Wick's perspective, as

00:17:09unpopular as Henry is,

00:17:11he is a local

00:17:13guy who bought in on the Red Sox

00:17:15and succeeded and prioritized

00:17:17winning there.

00:17:19It's a very unpopular name right now,

00:17:21but in

00:17:232013,

00:17:25this would have probably been a popular choice

00:17:27to buy the Celtics.

00:17:29Yeah.

00:17:31Can't do it. Sorry.

00:17:33Just can't do it. But

00:17:35it's happening. Cuban just did it

00:17:37and sold his

00:17:39majority. The Cuban one's the scary version

00:17:41of this where it goes to this

00:17:43gambling, big money

00:17:45family that's just trying to build a resort

00:17:47and make a billion bucks off

00:17:49the arena.

00:17:53Yeah.

00:17:55That's the other way this could go.

00:17:57Could you imagine if Henry

00:17:59traded Mookie and Tatum

00:18:01under his watch?

00:18:05The other part of that is LeBron would

00:18:07be in the ownership group.

00:18:09That's funny.

00:18:11I don't know.

00:18:13It's definitely one you have to think about

00:18:15because it's the most obvious.

00:18:17They're looking to get into the NBA.

00:18:19This is an NBA team becoming available

00:18:21in their backyard. I just wonder about the cost.

00:18:23Do you think Vegas,

00:18:25given the expansion fee and all the costs

00:18:27associated with starting that up,

00:18:29would be more expensive or the Celtics

00:18:31who are obviously a top five valuable team

00:18:33and have these massive costs

00:18:35associated with them? I think that's going to be a big

00:18:37part of the question too because if you're

00:18:39Henry and them, you buy the cheaper team.

00:18:41The better value purchase

00:18:43in that scenario.

00:18:45It's probably going to be pretty close.

00:18:47I don't know what the expansion fee is going to be like,

00:18:49but it's probably going to be ridiculous.

00:18:51Yeah.

00:18:53Again, just to clarify from that statement

00:18:55here,

00:18:57Boston Basketball Partners

00:18:59LLC includes

00:19:01Wick

00:19:03and Irv and Pags

00:19:05and the Abbey Group,

00:19:07which is

00:19:09Robert Epstein,

00:19:11and then also

00:19:13Paul Edgerly, Glenn Hutchins,

00:19:15James Pallotta,

00:19:17and a couple of others,

00:19:19managing directors, guys over

00:19:21at Bain Capital. That's the whole

00:19:23shebang.

00:19:25That's that. It's not just

00:19:27Wick. It's Wick and

00:19:29Boston Basketball LLC

00:19:31here.

00:19:33It would be a complete

00:19:35overhaul

00:19:37of ownership here and a

00:19:39completely new group coming in

00:19:41saying that.

00:19:43People are throwing out some crazy

00:19:45nefarious names. I don't know whether

00:19:47someone joked,

00:19:49LIV Celtics. I don't think that that's something

00:19:51the NBA will allow at this time.

00:19:53Saudi ownership.

00:19:55Someone mentioned Musk.

00:19:57Is this Bezos

00:19:59on anything basketball related?

00:20:01No, and I think he's looked into

00:20:03that at different points.

00:20:05That would be interesting. Obviously, there's the

00:20:07prospect of Seattle expansion as well.

00:20:09That would

00:20:11probably make more sense in his case

00:20:13later this decade.

00:20:15I probably would

00:20:17rule him out, but it's

00:20:19one of a short list of names. There's not many

00:20:21here that can purchase this team.

00:20:23I guess add him to the list

00:20:25too.

00:20:27I won't get

00:20:29into that.

00:20:33It's interesting

00:20:35how this works.

00:20:37Again,

00:20:39we'll jump back

00:20:41to this

00:20:45later in the show.

00:20:47Certainly, if any new insights

00:20:49or anything become available,

00:20:51I'm curious how long

00:20:53Wick has known this. You'll probably hold a press conference,

00:20:55right?

00:20:57I'd imagine.

00:20:59If they're putting out a statement, this thing

00:21:01was in the works. This isn't something he just

00:21:03decided to do now.

00:21:05It is interesting that that

00:21:07happened the way it happened

00:21:09and the timing of it,

00:21:11particularly off the heels of

00:21:13the Derek White announcement.

00:21:15Again,

00:21:17I don't know that anybody was concerned

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00:21:23that money. I think

00:21:25if there was any concern, it was

00:21:27simply

00:21:29because

00:21:31White might not take it.

00:21:33The fact that he

00:21:35is, I think,

00:21:37was amazing.

00:21:39It is just super

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00:21:43off the bat, as soon as that happens,

00:21:45bang, this gets announced

00:21:47here. It's pretty crazy. We'll get

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00:24:13into the other breaking news

00:24:15of the day, which is less explosive

00:24:17more. From

00:24:19Hemelsbach, just to wrap this up real quick.

00:24:21He says, despite the release saying

00:24:23the ownership group intends to

00:24:25sell all of the shares of the team, that's just

00:24:27procedure and some current members ownership

00:24:29are still expected to ultimately

00:24:31stay on.

00:24:33We'll see what happens there.

00:24:35That's interesting. There's

00:24:37a clarification there.

00:24:39I didn't want to say the report

00:24:41initially from Adam Hemelsbach

00:24:43of the Globe because he had put out there. It was

00:24:45Wick who was out, not

00:24:47the entire group. Then the Celtics

00:24:49sent out that statement saying that the entire group,

00:24:51which does include some of those other people

00:24:53there and

00:24:55maybe as Hemelsbach

00:24:57just said, it's procedural

00:24:59and Pags or Bain

00:25:01or other people involved in that group there.

00:25:03I know Pags was former Bain capital

00:25:05there and there's a couple other people.

00:25:07You never know what gets involved with

00:25:09those guys. Pags has some pretty

00:25:11deep pockets too. You can see him wanting to hang

00:25:13around and be there.

00:25:15Who knows what his intention is?

00:25:17I'm not

00:25:19sure whether or not they can form another

00:25:21type of LLC where they just replace Wick

00:25:23and bring in someone else with some

00:25:25money and create their own

00:25:27group where

00:25:29Wick's no longer part of it, partnering with other people

00:25:31and create an extension of what the current ownership

00:25:33group is. I guess that's possible

00:25:35if they did want to stay on and

00:25:37maybe it's driven by Pags.

00:25:39I don't know. This is all speculative

00:25:41at this point, but as information

00:25:43comes out, we'll

00:25:45keep updating. Anybody in the chat

00:25:47sees anything they want to throw out there that they think is

00:25:49worth talking about, let's do it.

00:25:51Meantime, as we said,

00:25:53the other stuff here

00:25:55we wanted to talk about was Derek White.

00:25:57Crazy

00:25:59that this happened here.

00:26:01We were talking about it,

00:26:03whether he would take it. It's $31 million.

00:26:05I thought, as

00:26:07his agent, I would have advised him not to,

00:26:09but I thought he might, and he did.

00:26:11What was your reaction, Bobby?

00:26:15Thrilled. How can he not be?

00:26:17This is a monumental

00:26:19break for the Celtics here, that

00:26:21they don't have to go through free agency with them,

00:26:23that they don't have to potentially move here,

00:26:25and that they keep them at this price,

00:26:27which seemed borderline

00:26:29unthinkable after what he's

00:26:31produced over the last two years. We threw

00:26:33out those scenarios, John, where

00:26:35he just wants to stay in Boston,

00:26:37or he wants to give the team a break to keep

00:26:39everybody around, or he just wants

00:26:41this kind of security. Whatever reason it was,

00:26:43he just went ahead and did it.

00:26:45That

00:26:47seems rare in the

00:26:49league now, especially when you look

00:26:51at what some of these other guys are signing

00:26:53for. It's all upward of $200

00:26:55million for guys in this class,

00:26:57and you're keeping him for

00:26:59$60, $70,

00:27:01$80 million less than that?

00:27:03There's a scenario

00:27:05obviously here where

00:27:07he pushed it up to

00:27:09$175,000

00:27:11and you just can't do it.

00:27:13He would have been the first guy to break off

00:27:15from this group here. He, I

00:27:17think, is the most important outside of

00:27:19Brown and Tatum to keep

00:27:21with this group because he's the connector,

00:27:23he's the glue guy, he's

00:27:25the one that can do the most array

00:27:27of things on this roster outside

00:27:29of those two guys. When he's out,

00:27:31he's out the biggest boss.

00:27:33A little younger than the other three

00:27:35core guys. He's about

00:27:37to turn 30, as opposed

00:27:39to Holiday, who's going to be 34 next season.

00:27:41Porzingis is at that age too,

00:27:43but you've got the injury risk and obviously Al Horford.

00:27:45You're locking him up here for

00:27:47prime years

00:27:49of his career as

00:27:51he's really come into his own and entered

00:27:53his prime here. You're getting

00:27:55top-level Derek White, which is amazing.

00:27:57Yes.

00:27:59As I look

00:28:01here for the 2026 cap, that's

00:28:03an eighth guy added to the

00:28:05mix, depending on what this Cated deal

00:28:07ends up being.

00:28:09It's going to be Tatum at 54,

00:28:11it's going to be Brown at

00:28:1353, Holiday at 32,

00:28:15Porzingis 30, and White

00:28:17about 28 in the first year of his extension

00:28:19with Pritchard at 7.

00:28:21You throw Hauser into that

00:28:23mix at 10-ish with a

00:28:25repeater tax set to begin that year

00:28:27and you're

00:28:29talking $220-ish

00:28:31million in salary

00:28:33just between those eight guys

00:28:35and

00:28:37$200

00:28:39in tax with the repeater.

00:28:41That's where you

00:28:43hit that massive tax

00:28:45wall if you have this team here.

00:28:47It's going to, I think,

00:28:49make that Hauser negotiation a little bit more

00:28:51complicated, but as we talked about,

00:28:53John, their strategy seems to be

00:28:55keep all these guys under

00:28:57track, have the flexibility to

00:28:59move them, don't lose them for nothing,

00:29:01and figure it out in a year

00:29:03or two here.

00:29:05I think that's pretty prudent, I think

00:29:07that makes a lot of sense, and I think

00:29:09it's the best way to keep the team

00:29:11sustainable into the future.

00:29:13This is why we're

00:29:15selling the team here, the cost of the roster

00:29:17is

00:29:19astronomical. Every dollar

00:29:21is basically like $7 now,

00:29:23which is just crazy.

00:29:25It's just

00:29:27so expensive right now.

00:29:31It's pretty incredible that they're able to do this

00:29:33because, again,

00:29:35something's going to have to happen,

00:29:37but

00:29:39how many teams right now are scrambling

00:29:41to try to lock in some

00:29:43long-term assets here

00:29:45to be able to

00:29:47compete with the Celtics, who ran

00:29:49way ahead of the pack here,

00:29:51made their two trades, extended

00:29:53their guys, and now you've got your core

00:29:55five members locked up

00:29:57once you sign the

00:29:59Tatum extension, which, yeah,

00:30:01it's expensive as hell, and that second apron's

00:30:03going to be really hard to team build.

00:30:05Do you want a number?

00:30:07On what? What it costs? It's $400 million,

00:30:09right?

00:30:11$483 million.

00:30:13$483?

00:30:15Yeah, just off what they

00:30:17have right now for 26.

00:30:19$483 for next year?

00:30:21For 26, yeah.

00:30:23For 26?

00:30:25Okay, we're still not there

00:30:27when the Tatum extension

00:30:29kicks in.

00:30:31Yeah, this year's going to be

00:30:33like $270,000,

00:30:35but just think of that, going from non-repeater

00:30:37to repeater

00:30:39with a couple extensions.

00:30:41Obviously, Tatum is the big

00:30:43one there. Two trade deadlines

00:30:45ago, Wick was trying to stay under a line

00:30:47to get that kickback, right?

00:30:49For every team that didn't go over it,

00:30:51you got the $10 million kickback,

00:30:53and that's what he was doing.

00:30:55We're scraping bottom of the barrel here

00:30:57to get a refund,

00:30:59a rebate

00:31:01from the NBA

00:31:03for being under that.

00:31:05But now,

00:31:07exactly, $400 million

00:31:09plus, that's insane.

00:31:11So yeah, you're dropping that on somebody else,

00:31:13which is crazy,

00:31:15but that's going to happen.

00:31:17That's what's going to happen.

00:31:19You're talking about, yeah, exactly,

00:31:21a payroll that's going to exceed

00:31:23$200 something million, but you're going to pay

00:31:25almost twice that in the tax, which is bananas.

00:31:27So I would have to think

00:31:29at that point,

00:31:31you're probably either

00:31:33going to look to move

00:31:35before Zyngus isn't expiring at that point,

00:31:37or let that expire

00:31:39when it happens after that season.

00:31:41And

00:31:43potentially, obviously,

00:31:45it's going to depend on the value of all these guys,

00:31:47but if Holiday is still

00:31:49a valuable piece at that point who can really

00:31:51bolster another team,

00:31:53you just try to sell high on all that money

00:31:55and try to take as little money back

00:31:57for that as possible.

00:31:59Is that picks at that point, or young players

00:32:01who don't make much money?

00:32:03I think that's going to be the way you try to navigate this.

00:32:05Brown, Tatum,

00:32:07and White here to bargain

00:32:09contract, effectively, I think

00:32:11are going to be the core guys into the future

00:32:13who stick around here.

00:32:15But who knows? Maybe something

00:32:17changes, and it's going to take one of those

00:32:19core guys to be able to make this more

00:32:21sustainable. There's a lot that can happen, but

00:32:23what's clear is that $480 million,

00:32:25depending on what the ownership

00:32:27situation is at that point,

00:32:29even

00:32:31Warrior's owner, LakeUp, with all

00:32:33those revenue streams, and

00:32:35Balmer with the Clippers, and

00:32:37the Nets ownership

00:32:39group there, they didn't

00:32:41want to keep paying that

00:32:43kind of money. So

00:32:45certainly, given the revenue limitations

00:32:47of the Celtics team,

00:32:49they're not going to want to pay that money

00:32:51for very long anyway. Maybe you do

00:32:53it for that one year in 2026 if you're

00:32:55trying to repeat. But

00:32:57there's going to be some off-ramps, and

00:32:59to me,

00:33:01John, you keep Tatum and

00:33:03Brown at all costs,

00:33:05and everyone else is going to be on

00:33:07the table in terms of reducing costs

00:33:09at that point.

00:33:11I mean, it's very possible,

00:33:13and it's very possible. And honestly, I think

00:33:15it's likely that your core is

00:33:17Tatum, White, and Brown,

00:33:19and that Holiday and Porzingis,

00:33:21as they get later into those deals, you're going to

00:33:23try to move, and you're going to take the losses.

00:33:25That makes most sense, but also you're going to get

00:33:27less return. So you'll be taking on

00:33:29bad... You're either going to trade and

00:33:31expiring, or you're going to trade someone to a

00:33:33contender and take a step backwards

00:33:35while you are still contending. It's hard

00:33:37to get off those deals if they're

00:33:39still playing at a decent level and you're competitive,

00:33:41because you're not going to sell

00:33:43now, but realistically,

00:33:45if you want to sell higher, get any return,

00:33:47you have to trade them when they're playing well to someone

00:33:49who needs somebody like that.

00:33:51Make yourself worse, make them better

00:33:53for future financial relief. So it's not a

00:33:55fun problem to have

00:33:57in that regard. And that's the killer to me

00:33:59in this Porzingis injury.

00:34:01I know everyone's looking at it and saying,

00:34:03oh, it'll be back,

00:34:05it's fine, whatever.

00:34:07You have a limited time with this core

00:34:09together, all these pieces

00:34:11together, where they're playing at the top of their games.

00:34:13And for him to be hampered to this

00:34:15extent by that injury

00:34:17into year one of his extension, you only have

00:34:19two years with him here on this extension.

00:34:21Is most of this year, year

00:34:23one out of two, going to be spent rehabbing

00:34:25and recovering

00:34:27and managing, returning from that

00:34:29injury? That's not great.

00:34:31And so that's why I looked at that injury and was

00:34:33like, this is really bad.

00:34:35Beyond the fact that

00:34:37it's just a greater

00:34:39difficulty for this team trying to repeat.

00:34:41So that's a killer

00:34:43there, that you invest in

00:34:45these six guys, and one of them already is

00:34:47hurt to the extent that he is through two years.

00:34:49You got your championship, obviously,

00:34:51and he played a part in that.

00:34:53But it stinks, because

00:34:55you want him

00:34:57out there. You just want him out there.

00:34:59So that's all it's about, and he's not going to be out there

00:35:01for a big part of next season, which is a killer.

00:35:03But this deal with White,

00:35:05you should be doing backflips down the street

00:35:07about that. That is

00:35:09outstanding. I mean, again,

00:35:11you're seeing the role player money being

00:35:13given around, and

00:35:15you're going to tell me, you want to make

00:35:17arguments for Bridges? Yeah.

00:35:19There's some things that Bridges

00:35:21can do that White can't, but there's certainly plenty

00:35:23of things White does that Bridges

00:35:25doesn't, and he's also just one

00:35:27of the most complete basketball players in the

00:35:29NBA in terms of

00:35:31him being next to

00:35:33perfect and almost always doing

00:35:35the right thing and playing

00:35:37on both ends the way that he does.

00:35:39He's just

00:35:41been such a gem for them.

00:35:43In terms of value

00:35:45to the franchise and

00:35:47to this team and to this group of players,

00:35:49I mean, White

00:35:51is just pivotal.

00:35:53So

00:35:55this is an incredible deal for the Celtics

00:35:57here.

00:35:59It's also just amazing

00:36:01as we

00:36:03looked at

00:36:05what they have coming back.

00:36:07It's all of it.

00:36:09The whole team is coming back here,

00:36:11and you've got everyone else kind of

00:36:13jumping around trying to catch them.

00:36:15Among the things that happened,

00:36:17Paul George, this happened overnight,

00:36:19and it's definitely worth talking about.

00:36:21Paul George to Philly.

00:36:23You look at what happened here

00:36:25to the Knicks.

00:36:29Hold on one second.

00:36:31They traded

00:36:33for Bridges, gave up

00:36:35a lot of capital, but between

00:36:37that and OG Extension,

00:36:39they put themselves in a position where they

00:36:41couldn't bring back Hartenstein.

00:36:43The interesting thing here is

00:36:45Hartenstein, to me, was the scariest

00:36:47thing about facing the Knicks in that

00:36:49Eastern Conference Finals.

00:36:51I thought the only way that

00:36:53team could beat the Celtics was if they

00:36:55just destroyed them on the glass,

00:36:57and that's what I was worried that he was going to do.

00:36:59The collection of talent

00:37:01is outstanding. I like Brunson a lot.

00:37:03I like Bridges a lot. I like

00:37:05OG. OG's a terrific

00:37:07defensive player. It's a really good team.

00:37:09With OG being out, no

00:37:11Randall, I thought Hartenstein was the one

00:37:13thing that could maybe make that

00:37:15competitive, given how depleted

00:37:17that Knicks team was going to be.

00:37:19Just looking at

00:37:21what we have here, in terms of

00:37:23this, let's look at these

00:37:27things with over the Sixers.

00:37:29Here's what you might be looking at as a starting lineup.

00:37:31Maybe it's Batum instead of Oubre in there,

00:37:33but that's what you've got.

00:37:35Batum's gone.

00:37:37Oh, he's gone. Okay.

00:37:39Versus that,

00:37:41look, it's a good big three.

00:37:43You're still chasing a little bit if you're the Sixers.

00:37:45I think people aren't fully

00:37:47understanding how far ahead

00:37:49of the rest of the pack the Celtics were last year,

00:37:51because you're only looking at the playoffs and the

00:37:53injuries and what those teams looked like

00:37:55and saying, well, if they weren't hurt.

00:37:57If they weren't hurt, these teams were 14th.

00:37:59Again, Embiid missed a lot of time.

00:38:01The entire East was 14 games

00:38:03worse than the Celtics. Let's not be

00:38:05stupid. Celtics were

00:38:07a clear level above everybody,

00:38:09but yes, this tightens

00:38:11the gap.

00:38:13Yeah, I'll

00:38:15put them third, Philly,

00:38:17in that hierarchy. I still

00:38:19think I got New York ahead of them.

00:38:21I mean, how can you not when,

00:38:23as you show there, Lowry and Oubre would

00:38:25be in the starting lineup or whatever it would be.

00:38:27I know they brought Eric Gordon

00:38:29on a minimum, so it's probably

00:38:31that big three and a bunch of minimum guys.

00:38:33And Andre Drummond joined the

00:38:35group too there to back up Embiid, which is a pretty

00:38:37good move.

00:38:39I don't think there's enough depth there

00:38:41to make them scarier

00:38:43than the Knicks. But if they start

00:38:45to fill it out, somehow they bring Melton

00:38:47back and maybe they trade

00:38:49Paul Reed, who makes about $7 million

00:38:51for a wing piece or something like that.

00:38:53I think then you move them up to two.

00:38:55Obviously, Embiid

00:38:57as a single

00:38:59force is

00:39:01the scariest thing outside

00:39:03of the Giannis factor

00:39:05in Milwaukee there in the East.

00:39:07And I think if he's

00:39:09going full go with that roster,

00:39:11they become number two at that point.

00:39:13But you just have too many questions here.

00:39:15The depth, George as he continues

00:39:17to age here, what's he going to look like?

00:39:19And

00:39:21is Embiid even healthy

00:39:23in the playoffs, which he hasn't been

00:39:25ever. So that's

00:39:27why I put them behind the Knicks

00:39:29for now. There's a chance that they could rise

00:39:31above the Knicks as the biggest threat to Boston

00:39:33in the East. And again, they played

00:39:35Boston, I think, tougher

00:39:37than anyone in the East.

00:39:39That's why I put them behind the Knicks

00:39:41for now.

00:39:43I think that's why I put them behind the

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00:52:43I'm going Oklahoma City.

00:52:45I'm going Oklahoma City.

00:52:47I'm not even dealing with the West.

00:52:49I didn't deal with the West

00:52:51all year. I think people

00:52:53fixated on Denver all year long

00:52:55and that was the reason they thought the Celtics couldn't win a championship.

00:52:57I thought that was a silly thing to do.

00:52:59You never know who comes out.

00:53:01It doesn't really matter.

00:53:03You're really only concerned with the East.

00:53:05When you get there, you get there.

00:53:07I think they're in great shape right now

00:53:09with the moves that they've made.

00:53:11Denver going backwards

00:53:13because you just lost KCP.

00:53:17They might not be in the top five anymore.

00:53:19They might not be in the top five anymore.

00:53:21I think there's a little recency

00:53:23bias there with watching them go out.

00:53:25Losing KCP really hurts them

00:53:27for sure there.

00:53:31I'm not worried about the West at all.

00:53:33I only look at the East.

00:53:35Who's your top five in the East?

00:53:37I think it's the obvious

00:53:39and I'll put five in as Miami.

00:53:41You have the Celtics,

00:53:43Knicks, Bucks

00:53:45and Sixers

00:53:47in different order.

00:53:49I might go Knicks two, Sixers three, Bucks four.

00:53:51I think it's actually pretty close two through four

00:53:53with the Celtics still a healthy Celtics team.

00:53:57Is Indy on the list?

00:53:59A bit above them.

00:54:01Indy's going to be right there in the mix.

00:54:03Dangerous, but I don't think they've got the horses yet

00:54:05to compete with those big boys.

00:54:07I like Miami. I like Orlando.

00:54:09It's a lot of the teams that made it last year.

00:54:11It's funny, you talk about Cleveland.

00:54:13I don't know where they fit in,

00:54:15but I can't imagine.

00:54:17I think it's fair to say, Bobby,

00:54:19that right now

00:54:21the Celtics are flat out running it back.

00:54:23The Knicks,

00:54:25probably Orlando,

00:54:27probably Philadelphia are all going to be

00:54:29better next year.

00:54:31I don't know who else sneaks in from the outside in.

00:54:33I think the eight that made the playoffs

00:54:35you're looking at. Could one or two teams

00:54:37surprise you and fall a little lower than you

00:54:39think or rise? Yeah, it's possible.

00:54:41I don't know that anybody rises to the

00:54:43level of

00:54:45the Celtics healthy

00:54:47yet, but that first couple of months

00:54:49are going to be interesting because you're going to be

00:54:51shorthanded.

00:54:53You suffer one more injury to another

00:54:55player that keeps them out

00:54:57for a little bit of time. Yeah, Celtics could take

00:54:59a couple of lumps early in the season, but

00:55:01it's competitive.

00:55:03It'll be more competitive.

00:55:05Yeah, health is

00:55:07everything here, obviously, and

00:55:09I think that includes Boston. They were

00:55:11able to sustain some injuries last year.

00:55:13I still think they'll do a pretty good job with that this

00:55:15year, but Porzingis

00:55:17is out for so long that

00:55:19an additional injury during that stretch could

00:55:21put you in a very difficult position.

00:55:23It's going to be important for some of these younger guys on the

00:55:25roster to be able to step in and contribute.

00:55:27Keita stays,

00:55:29which is next to Wicksel

00:55:31team and Derek White

00:55:33extending a smaller headline, but

00:55:35an important one. They're keeping

00:55:37him on a long-term deal. He's going to be in that

00:55:39mix of guys who help back up Porzingis

00:55:41next year, and if they don't add to that

00:55:43front court, they still have two open roster

00:55:45spots, and Tillman and Brousset are still out there,

00:55:47but Keita is moving up that

00:55:49hierarchy into next year.

00:55:51Yeah.

00:55:53Some real opportunity

00:55:55for him to step in and do some stuff

00:55:57at the start of next year, which I think is exciting

00:55:59for some people. I know you're one of the

00:56:01guys who's higher on him, John. I know Gary,

00:56:03who we had on here a week or two ago, is

00:56:05pretty high on him.

00:56:07I'm high on the potential,

00:56:09because

00:56:11like I said,

00:56:13I always use the Rob comparison,

00:56:15not because I'm comparing him to Rob,

00:56:17but the reason I liked Rob as much as I did

00:56:19was focusing

00:56:21less on

00:56:23what they can't do

00:56:25and whether or not some of their skills

00:56:27rise to the level of elite.

00:56:29I think Keita can do a couple of things

00:56:31at a really high level. The offensive

00:56:33rebounding and the putbacks, and again, we've seen

00:56:35the importance of that, saves you

00:56:37from some bad possessions and offensive

00:56:39stagnation at times,

00:56:41and it's just a really good thing to have

00:56:43when you have it.

00:56:45Rob, we spent all of this time

00:56:47looking at Rob and being like, man, when he's

00:56:49out there, the offense

00:56:51because of the

00:56:53shooting and this and that, and you can't

00:56:55you're so worried about

00:56:57you don't have enough shooters on the floor, and

00:56:59I don't know if you can have him out there, and then you'd

00:57:01look at the numbers, and the offensive rating would be

00:57:0320 points better with Williams on the floor

00:57:05because of the gravity and the lob

00:57:07threat and all of the things that he would bring.

00:57:09Sometimes it's not arriving at your

00:57:11destination the way you expected,

00:57:13but you're still getting there.

00:57:15Someone like Keita might be able to provide you

00:57:17something that's different

00:57:19than

00:57:21what the traditional

00:57:23style of play that Celtics is under

00:57:25Joe Mizzoula, but that might be

00:57:27useful.

00:57:29I like him. I like the potential.

00:57:31I want to see where his growth is,

00:57:33and you need cheap players.

00:57:35You want to be able to pay backups

00:57:37a couple million dollars,

00:57:39and you're going to need players like that.

00:57:41You have to at this point.

00:57:43You really have to, so you need your

00:57:45rookies. You need Keita. You need Jordan

00:57:47Walsh. You need those guys to be

00:57:49at least 9, 10,

00:57:5111 playable, if not bumping

00:57:53up that depth chart at some point or another

00:57:55would be ideal.

00:57:57Being your role players or your

00:57:59bench players is great because

00:58:01you can't be paying mid-levels

00:58:03and $25 million and $30 million

00:58:05to guys coming in off the bench

00:58:07there to round things out. You're going to have to find a way

00:58:09to get cheaper and better.

00:58:11The Keita costs

00:58:13you nothing for

00:58:15next year, which is great.

00:58:17What a find, and I got

00:58:19lucky because the Kings waved him.

00:58:21They invested in him a couple of years

00:58:23after bringing him in the draft,

00:58:25and he

00:58:27looked like an exciting piece for them, and then they

00:58:29just cut him for JaVale McGee, which was

00:58:31really weird, and then the Celtics signed him for a two-way.

00:58:33That was a great

00:58:35find, and I was

00:58:37pretty excited when they signed him because that's

00:58:39a guy you saw out there at Summer League his first

00:58:41two years and stood out.

00:58:43Obviously, the 7-foot

00:58:45stature, the frame, but he would

00:58:47dominate out there in Vegas,

00:58:49and then he was the G League MVP

00:58:51runner-up, I think, the year

00:58:53after that.

00:58:55This was a great find.

00:58:57Is there Rob potential?

00:58:59Probably not

00:59:01to that extent, but is there

00:59:03high, high-level backup potential

00:59:05here? That seems to be

00:59:07the case.

00:59:09What do you always say, John? The 4A?

00:59:11Because he's way too good for the G

00:59:13League, but still not quite there at

00:59:15the NBA level, but he gave you those couple weeks

00:59:17last year where he was pretty good

00:59:19in a full backup role.

00:59:21Can you build on that if you're him?

00:59:23Can you have a big first month or two here

00:59:25if you're him while you're in that position?

00:59:27Right now, he's your third center,

00:59:29John.

00:59:33He is.

00:59:35Get ready, Katie. You're

00:59:37going to get called on early and often if

00:59:39this is the front court, and we'll see

00:59:41what happens. Still not a ton of noise on

00:59:43Tillman.

00:59:45I was going through some of the teams yesterday.

00:59:47Could a Memphis

00:59:49return make sense for him? I know they

00:59:51brought in Edie. They still have some money

00:59:53to spend out there.

00:59:55New Orleans doesn't have a center at all

00:59:57right now with

00:59:59Valenchunas going to Washington, which was a weird one.

01:00:01They're probably in that

01:00:03mix. He could help them a little bit.

01:00:05Signings like that always blow

01:00:07my mind. I'm like, what are you signing?

01:00:09That blew my mind.

01:00:11Weird to me.

01:00:13The thing with a team like that is

01:00:15you have to sign someone.

01:00:17I guess they chose Valenchunas.

01:00:21Is this still going? No, we don't

01:00:23have. Are we doing this code?

01:00:27Try it.

01:00:29I'm sipping out of my garden report

01:00:31because the third center made me think about it.

01:00:33I'm sipping out of my garden report mug, which you can

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01:00:47Jimmy Toscano has this thing loaded

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01:01:01Honestly, I was blown away by

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01:01:07and the parade and this and that. It was really fun

01:01:09seeing people out there, which was great.

01:01:11Check it out if you want to get there.

01:01:13clnsmedia.com.

01:01:15The majority of the money goes in

01:01:17Jimmy Toscano's pocket. I'll just let you guys know

01:01:19that.

01:01:21Well, that's not true.

01:01:23Thanks to Jimmy for taking

01:01:25the lead on this stuff.

01:01:27It looks like

01:01:29that Clay deal could be a

01:01:31sign-in trade.

01:01:33All the details are starting to come out.

01:01:3550 million.

01:01:37Josh Green goes to Charlotte in the deal.

01:01:39We'll see what Charlotte's

01:01:41sending out there.

01:01:43Less than the Celtics,

01:01:45less than the Warriors had offered.

01:01:47According to Woj,

01:01:49there was

01:01:51state tax implications

01:01:53and wanting to go somewhere where he thought he had a better

01:01:55chance of winning a title.

01:01:57A little bit of shade there

01:01:59in terms of at least

01:02:01the reporting of that.

01:02:03As you said, gone.

01:02:05Two-year, 10.6 million goes to the Clips.

01:02:07He's out.

01:02:09That's it.

01:02:11Josh Green to Charlotte there in the Clay deal.

01:02:13Agent Greg Lawrence.

01:02:15I'm reading the

01:02:17Woj tweet. Thompson had

01:02:19four years for more money taking less

01:02:21chance to win a championship and

01:02:23the state tax situation.

01:02:25They have

01:02:27Kyrie, Luca, Clay,

01:02:29Najee Marshall came in

01:02:31who's a decent 3 and D wing from New

01:02:33Orleans.

01:02:35PJ Washington's still there.

01:02:37Gafford's still there.

01:02:39Lively's still there. Obviously, the Mavs

01:02:41caught their own breaks on the way to the finals.

01:02:43That's looking like a team that could be

01:02:45back in that

01:02:47position next year. At least

01:02:49have as good of a chance as anyone else out there.

01:02:51You have to think Luca's going to motivate.

01:02:53Do you see Luca's playing in Europe right now

01:02:55by the way?

01:02:57He was playing

01:02:59a tune-up for Slovenia

01:03:01the other day.

01:03:03I thought he was

01:03:05in those finals.

01:03:07Such bullshit.

01:03:09I said

01:03:11that from the get-go, Bobby. I'm like, give me

01:03:13a break that Luca's injured.

01:03:15He's freaking fine.

01:03:17He's out there playing.

01:03:19I wouldn't

01:03:21love it if I'm Dallas. You know these guys.

01:03:23These European guys.

01:03:25They will not

01:03:27sit out these international competitions

01:03:29unless

01:03:31they need surgery

01:03:33that's going to keep them out for six months.

01:03:35It pains them to

01:03:37miss these things.

01:03:39The entire nation

01:03:41looks to these guys so heavily.

01:03:43Luca doesn't

01:03:45play. It's basically just shutting

01:03:47down the program.

01:03:49You can't not do it if you're him.

01:03:51The national

01:03:53pride there in these guys.

01:03:55I'm pretty bummed Porzingis can't go for a live

01:03:57because they were going to be in the Olympics

01:03:59which is a big bummer there.

01:04:01He was obviously way too hurt

01:04:03to do that.

01:04:05It's going to be fun. August or late July.

01:04:07We're about a month away from that.

01:04:09It's always fun.

01:04:11The international

01:04:13competition is so good now. You've got

01:04:15some really good talent on Canada

01:04:17and several Celtics

01:04:19there which should be a ton of fun.

01:04:21Let's wrap it up here, Bobby.

01:04:23As we said, we'll

01:04:25rifle through some of our

01:04:27breaking news as it came.

01:04:29The first thing that happened was

01:04:31Derek White signed a four-year $125.9 million

01:04:33extension. We thought the entire

01:04:35show was going to be on that. We actually spent

01:04:37probably the least amount of time on it.

01:04:39It's the best news of the day

01:04:41that Derek White signed.

01:04:43He took that team-friendly deal.

01:04:45What a deal.

01:04:47Fair amount of money on the table

01:04:49if he wanted to stick it out and play one more year.

01:04:51It's legit.

01:04:53It's a lot of money but well worth it.

01:04:55A hometown discount

01:04:57is a lot of money when you add it up

01:04:59with all the rest of the money they're spending.

01:05:01This is a legit hometown

01:05:03discount that Derek White came.

01:05:05I'm putting it on you

01:05:07people out there. You guys made this happen.

01:05:09Derek White loves you.

01:05:11He loves being here and he loves being in Boston.

01:05:13You love when athletes

01:05:15do this because it doesn't always

01:05:17work this way and it doesn't work both ways.

01:05:19I've seen franchises show

01:05:21people the door who really wanted

01:05:23to be here.

01:05:25He has truly become an all-time

01:05:27beloved Celtic.

01:05:29You think of his Game 6 moment,

01:05:31the consistency, the ceiling

01:05:33razor he became.

01:05:35I was going back watching some

01:05:37O'Garn reports the other night, John,

01:05:39and some of the freakouts we had in 2022.

01:05:41His arrival was the real...

01:05:43His arrival changed

01:05:45everything in many ways that year.

01:05:47It shifted them from that maddening

01:05:49inconsistency to

01:05:51a bona fide contender

01:05:53when he arrived.

01:05:55They've been to three straight East Finals

01:05:57and two NBA Finals with him here.

01:05:59Amazing.

01:06:01An all-time role player, really,

01:06:03in Boston, he's become here.

01:06:05He just gets better every year, too.

01:06:07There's a real work ethic

01:06:09that's pretty obvious

01:06:11from his standpoint, too.

01:06:13He's just fallen in love with the city.

01:06:15It's awesome.

01:06:17I think this is something people can be really excited about

01:06:19and try to put some quick stuff to the side.

01:06:21That was the other

01:06:23major news here.

01:06:25We'll even start at the beginning of the day.

01:06:27As we had mentioned, Paul George overnight

01:06:29agreed to that deal with the Sixers.

01:06:31We did think that that was likely to happen.

01:06:33Other things that happened...

01:06:35Mavericks, as we mentioned, signed Clay Thompson

01:06:37to a three-year $50 million deal.

01:06:39He's leaving Golden State

01:06:41after a terrific run there.

01:06:43Isaiah Hartenstein,

01:06:45three-year $87 million

01:06:47deal with OKC. OKC

01:06:49really starting to look

01:06:51like they might be the team to beat in the West

01:06:53next year with what they've done.

01:06:55Then the bombshell news here

01:06:57with the Celtics ownership group

01:06:59led by Wick Grousbeck planning to make the team

01:07:01available for sale.

01:07:03By the end of this year, Wick Grousbeck would

01:07:05remain on as the

01:07:07governor up until 28,

01:07:09whenever it would

01:07:11pass on to the next group.

01:07:13The sale, expected to be finalized this year,

01:07:15doesn't mean everyone is gone.

01:07:17There's some reported

01:07:19interest from some of the other members

01:07:21of Boston Basketball LLC,

01:07:23namely Steve Pagliuca, to remain

01:07:25on in some capacity. We'll see how that goes.

01:07:27It's going to be interesting.

01:07:29What's your

01:07:31lasting memory of Grousbeck's

01:07:33ownership tenure?

01:07:35How are you going to remember it?

01:07:37It's impossible not to

01:07:39remember it for now

01:07:41because this was that

01:07:43all-in push that we were concerned that he

01:07:45wouldn't make.

01:07:47Again, it's so weird to say

01:07:49one of the poorer owners

01:07:51for a person who's got

01:07:53half a billion in net worth

01:07:55outside of the franchise.

01:07:57It has to be that

01:07:59commitment here to

01:08:01pushing in here. I'm not an

01:08:03owner guy. I don't

01:08:05think they deserve tons of credit.

01:08:07I think they can get in the way

01:08:09way more often than they can

01:08:11do positive things. I think

01:08:13they should be a blank checkbook and whoever

01:08:15they hire to make decisions, they should just

01:08:17let them make the decisions. If you don't like the

01:08:19decisions they make, bring someone else to make

01:08:21decisions. I don't think an owner

01:08:23should be part of the conversation

01:08:25in sports at all

01:08:27unless they're bad.

01:08:29To me, it's just don't mess it up.

01:08:31I bought it. Other

01:08:33people run and manage it. I'm just

01:08:35here off to the side.

01:08:37I will give credit because

01:08:39he could have gone the bad route

01:08:41of that. You do

01:08:43like the people who are fans first

01:08:45because you feel like they feel what you feel.

01:08:47It isn't just a vanity that

01:08:49you can tell your rich friends at the Yacht Club,

01:08:51I want a title. You're more

01:08:53part of the fabric of the community.

01:08:55I think that along with

01:08:57opening up the checkbook

01:08:59here and letting these guys go

01:09:01after it with this team

01:09:03was great.

01:09:05That's what I will say.

01:09:07I don't mean to be

01:09:09a jerk about it.

01:09:13It drives me nuts that the owners

01:09:15talk first after a championship

01:09:17or that they take credit for things.

01:09:19It's a fair point.

01:09:21I hate that.

01:09:23Everyone else did it.

01:09:25I think the one thing

01:09:27you can mention with him that was pretty important

01:09:29and that persisted through almost the

01:09:31entirety of the time he was here

01:09:33was bringing in Danny.

01:09:35That coincided with him buying the team.

01:09:39Ainge brings in KG

01:09:41and Pierce.

01:09:43Ainge is here for the Tatum and Brown drafts

01:09:45and the KG and Pierce trades.

01:09:47To talk about what you mentioned

01:09:49there, bringing in the right guy

01:09:51and letting him make the decisions,

01:09:53bringing in Danny

01:09:55to lead the team was about

01:09:57as good of a decision as you can make.

01:10:01Exactly.

01:10:03Like I said, those are the big decisions

01:10:05here.

01:10:07Some stuff was questioned.

01:10:09What we thought firing Brad up

01:10:11in a money-saving move when he clearly

01:10:13didn't want to be there anymore,

01:10:15we weren't sure that was going to work.

01:10:17That could have been atrocious.

01:10:19The Imeo-Doka situation was weird,

01:10:21but it ended up working out because

01:10:23Missoula ended up being great for this team

01:10:25and they won a title.

01:10:27You don't really know.

01:10:29Really, he's had his hand

01:10:31in three major decisions.

01:10:33That would be Danny,

01:10:35the situation that happened there with Brad,

01:10:37which was good because Brad ended up being good

01:10:39and Udoka was a terrific coach in that first year.

01:10:41How that situation was handled

01:10:43and now

01:10:45it's not really mattering anymore because

01:10:47where they ended up ended up being better.

01:10:49The last thing was opening that checkbook

01:10:51up there and

01:10:53getting it done.

01:10:55He presided over 2008,

01:10:57but Danny made those moves.

01:10:59As I said, hiring the right person matters

01:11:01and he did twice.

01:11:05Short of opening up the checkbook,

01:11:07the most important thing you're going to do

01:11:09is make sure you put the right person in charge.

01:11:11He's done it twice now. That's a big, big deal.

01:11:15We'll see. Will he talk in the near future

01:11:17about that decision to move on?

01:11:19Will we get a white press conference?

01:11:21I'd assume we might

01:11:23just given how exciting that is.

01:11:25That'll probably all come in time.

01:11:27Was it July 9th?

01:11:29They can start negotiating with Hauser?

01:11:31Sixth, I thought.

01:11:37I thought it was one week from the time

01:11:39it opened, but maybe not.

01:11:41That makes sense.

01:11:43I'm sure we'll get a Hauser news in a week.

01:11:45That just seems

01:11:47to be in the bag

01:11:49at this point with how much they want to get that done.

01:11:51I'm sure Hauser is in a similar

01:11:53place to where White is here,

01:11:55where he just wants to be part of this,

01:11:57wants a little long-term security.

01:11:59All of a sudden, your top

01:12:01six, seven are in tact in the near future.

01:12:03I'm sure Horford's going to be

01:12:05a year-by-year thing at this point.

01:12:09Maybe he comes back at a minimum

01:12:11if he comes back again.

01:12:13I think that's exactly right.

01:12:15That's how it's going to happen.

01:12:17I am curious with the Hauser stuff, though.

01:12:19I thought it was possible that Hauser

01:12:21would say,

01:12:23sign the $2 million

01:12:25option for this year

01:12:27and then figure it out next year.

01:12:29If you can fit it or you're making other moves,

01:12:31maybe do that, but you might have to just accept

01:12:33that he's gone.

01:12:37Hauser starts to feel like a real luxury

01:12:39item for this team.

01:12:43It's not that he's not good.

01:12:45All things considered, you want him

01:12:47on the team versus not.

01:12:49But you got to start making hard choices.

01:12:51I do wonder if Hauser's a casualty

01:12:53in terms of extension there.

01:12:55I could see this going the way of Grant,

01:12:57which is the deal that they want to sign him to

01:12:59isn't really the deal that he's

01:13:01willing to take, so we'll see.

01:13:03Yeah, and certainly he's got that tough

01:13:05agent there in Glushon who hasn't given him the

01:13:07many breaks. He commanded

01:13:09the Jalen extension, the Drew one,

01:13:11which was pretty sizable there.

01:13:13I don't know if you're getting any

01:13:15friendly discount there from him.

01:13:17We'll see. That's obviously

01:13:19another big one to look out for them.

01:13:21Yeah.

01:13:23That's it. We're done. A ton

01:13:25of news

01:13:27today. We didn't expect

01:13:31less than 24 hours after the start

01:13:33of free agency. The Celtics doing

01:13:35a lot of things, bringing back Luke,

01:13:37bringing back Keita, re-signing White

01:13:39and selling the frigging team.

01:13:41Didn't expect that we'd have this much

01:13:43news in such a short period of time,

01:13:45but we're here for all of it. Bobby Manning's

01:13:47got you covered, so check out

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01:13:55We'll have more stuff on this

01:13:57and

01:13:59any and all breaking news as it comes.

01:14:01We've got you

01:14:03covered. Tons of other great

01:14:05podcasts on the network as well,

01:14:07and I'm sure everyone's going to be talking about this news

01:14:09and giving their take and their spin

01:14:11on everything that happened, but Celtics running

01:14:13back well-positioned,

01:14:15heading into next year, injuries aside,

01:14:17to potentially

01:14:19make a run at Banner

01:14:2119. Big piece of it today,

01:14:23locking in Derek White long-term

01:14:25to a team-friendly extension, so that's

01:14:27certainly good news. Good

01:14:29news, we get to hang out with you guys again.

01:14:31We were happy to do it. We'll be back

01:14:33should there be any breaking news. Otherwise,

01:14:35follow us on Twitter here for notifications of

01:14:37our next live show. We will jump back on

01:14:39later in the week

01:14:41and break it down and talk about

01:14:43some other stuff and maybe bring some of the other guys

01:14:45on board, Jimmy, Sherrod

01:14:47and Josue, and get their take

01:14:49on everything that's gone on

01:14:51in the last 24 to 48 hours.

01:14:53It's been a lot of fun and a lot of activity.

01:14:55Until then, we will see you guys

01:14:57later. Take care.

01:14:59Wait, Ahmed's got an outro for us,

01:15:01I think. No, he doesn't.

01:15:03He said he was going to work on an outro.

01:15:05He had a phenomenal

01:15:07game.

01:15:09Porfrit's out.

01:15:11I think it's an option.

01:15:15That did not sound like a chair.

01:15:17It was a freaking chair.

01:15:19It does sound like a chair.

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