Before an exclusive interview with Patriots receiver Ja'Lynn Polk, ex-Patriots captain Devin McCourty joins Andrew to break down Sunday's game against the Dolphins, his recent talk with Bill Belichick about working in media, whether the Patriots are already in serious trouble and much more.
0:00 - Intro
4:12 - Rutgers Hall of Fame
6:01 - Bill Belichick's Media Life
7:57 - Media Meetings Insight
12:06 - Defense Leadership Loss
15:15 - Bentley's Impact Explained
18:00 - Team's Struggles Discussed
20:45 - David Andrews' Leadership
22:29 - Impact of Injuries Explained
24:36 - Patriots vs Dolphins Preview
27:14 - Jumpstarting Passing Game
30:44 - Finding Offensive Advantages
32:49 - Running Game Focus
36:31 - Defensive Coaching Concerns
39:22 - Tua's Impact
41:20 - Buffalo's Defense Strategy
44:29 - Key Matchup Preview
46:27 - Turnovers Key Game
48:04 - Wild Card Thoughts
50:03 - First Quarter Winner
51:05 - 4 Minute Drill w/ Ja'Lynn Polk
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0:00 - Intro
4:12 - Rutgers Hall of Fame
6:01 - Bill Belichick's Media Life
7:57 - Media Meetings Insight
12:06 - Defense Leadership Loss
15:15 - Bentley's Impact Explained
18:00 - Team's Struggles Discussed
20:45 - David Andrews' Leadership
22:29 - Impact of Injuries Explained
24:36 - Patriots vs Dolphins Preview
27:14 - Jumpstarting Passing Game
30:44 - Finding Offensive Advantages
32:49 - Running Game Focus
36:31 - Defensive Coaching Concerns
39:22 - Tua's Impact
41:20 - Buffalo's Defense Strategy
44:29 - Key Matchup Preview
46:27 - Turnovers Key Game
48:04 - Wild Card Thoughts
50:03 - First Quarter Winner
51:05 - 4 Minute Drill w/ Ja'Lynn Polk
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00:00Okay, back at it, Pat's Dolphins.
00:15We get a great preview episode here for you today, not just because it's going to be me
00:19speaking to myself, which you know we do every Monday, recapping games, but A, the Patriots
00:23have a really good shot to win.
00:25I think Vegas agrees, kind of.
00:28Patriots right now are one and a half point favorites.
00:30But secondarily to that, we got Devin McCourty.
00:33Love having him on the show.
00:34Talking X's and O's.
00:35Stayed in the locker room.
00:36This guy was very close to Mayo, obviously played with him.
00:39He's doing NBC Sunday Night Football, but we really get into both sides of the ball
00:43and also what you just want to see from this team moving forward.
00:46Because if it's not going to be consistent winning, and they've obviously lost three
00:49games in a row, you need to see progress.
00:51You need to see young players.
00:53And Devin, as you've heard him before here, isn't always going to be the company man.
00:58He's going to tell you what he thinks.
00:59In fact, a year ago, after the Patriots lost this next game, meaning week five, supposedly
01:05beatable opponent at home, that was 34 to nothing to the Saints.
01:10I think 34 to nothing, by the way, is coming against the Dolphins, who are the only team
01:13scoring fewer points than the Patriots right now.
01:15But he said after that game, I think their only option is to tank.
01:20So that's a guy, former captain, future Patriots Hall of Famer, telling you exactly what's
01:25on his mind.
01:26He does that a lot more here.
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02:25the Pats defense.
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02:46Okay, our PrizePix picks of the week right here.
02:49This is a layup, I think.
02:50As bad as Jacoby Brissett looked, as bad as the passing offense has been, more than half
02:55a touchdown.
02:56So he just needs one passing touchdown and you hit this.
02:59He had that last week against the 49ers, Austin Hooper in the flat.
03:03I think this gets done against one of the worst defenses in the league.
03:06The other one I'm going, less than Aaron Rodgers, 224 and a half passing yards.
03:11He's in London playing against the Vikings, Opel, Brian Flores is spitting that dial in
03:17a way.
03:18It's stopped since week one.
03:20So whether it's the sim pressures, the actual blitzes, a lot of quarters coverage, Brian
03:25Flores knows how to defend that offense.
03:27He's experienced against Aaron Rodgers, did a great job back last time Devin and Flo were
03:31together in 18 and they held those Packers to 17 points.
03:34Now granted, games in 2018 don't have a lot to do with what's going to happen Sunday,
03:38but I'm telling you, more than half a passing touchdown for Jacoby Brissett, less than 224
03:45and a half passing yards for Aaron Rodgers.
03:47There it is.
03:48Your prize picks, picks of the week now, Devin McCourty.
03:51All right.
03:52As promised future Patriots hall of famer and current Rutgers athletics hall of fame.
03:57Funny thing about the Rutgers hall of fame.
03:59You walk in and it echoes cause they don't have a good way to fill it.
04:04And now they have Devin McCourty in there and Jason McCourty, it's just, you just hear
04:08yourself all over the place as far as the building can go, but he's here to talk about
04:12Pat's dolphins.
04:13How does it feel though, to, to be honored?
04:15I know you were, it was the last Friday against Washington.
04:17Yeah, man, it was, it was cool being down there Thursday doing a speech and everything
04:22with my brother.
04:23But then being back in that environment, you know, I might be a little biased, but Rutgers
04:28has one of the best environments in college football.
04:30I've been, I've been all over.
04:33I've been all over the big bosses at NBC and I'm telling them, I don't know what you guys
04:37are waiting for, but you should be trying to get one of these Rutgers games on the Peacock
04:41schedule NBC.
04:43I've been trying to let them know Fox went there, then McAfee had talked about possibly
04:47game day.
04:48I tried to tell them, you know, in the off season, different times, I tried to prepare
04:52them for Rutgers is going to do this year.
04:55So no, but all jokes aside, unbelievable honor.
04:59And it was cool.
05:00I think talking trash to Steve, Stevie B, Steve Belichick as he was going into the tunnel
05:05at halftime.
05:06And then you know, coach Belichick, Bill was there again, a chance to catch up with him
05:10a little bit and just talking about our, our media lives and football in general.
05:15So overall, it was just an awesome two day span.
05:19So number one, I can't actually talk much crap to you because my freshman year at UConn,
05:24you had a pick six in front of me being somewhere up sober as can be, because I didn't get the
05:29point of drinking at football games.
05:31I was like, all of the fun is on the field.
05:32I don't, I don't understand why people around me are not watching.
05:36And then you had a pick six and Rutgers won UConn.
05:37So that kind of ended our little former biggest rivalry here.
05:40Number two, I am really curious what Bill said about media life.
05:44And I'm shocked he had a second from hanging out with Chris Long and on fantasy and McAfee
05:48and all the different stuff he's doing.
05:49Like he had a second to talk about it.
05:51What did he say?
05:52Yeah, no, we were, we were just, you know, hanging out and talking and I think he likes
05:58it so far.
05:59I think it's been good.
06:00For one, I love it for him because I think people get to see the other side that the
06:04players have always seen.
06:06But you could tell, like, he's busy doing different things and it's probably good.
06:10You go from coaching for that long, the last thing you want to do is just sit around.
06:14But for me, just talking to him, I've always been impressed and thought it was so cool
06:19of how much fun he has just being in Washington.
06:22Like as we're talking, the game's going on, Rutgers is on offense, so obviously Steve's
06:27coaching the defense.
06:28And we're talking, he's just like, he's just looking at, because he was so into, you know,
06:33what Washington was doing and Steve and he's obviously been around that program a little
06:37bit even, you know, going into the season and during the season.
06:40So that to me was always cool.
06:42I think the outside of football parts of just seeing how much he enjoys being around, you
06:48know, whether it was Steve or Brian, especially when it came to, you know, coaching and doing
06:51football.
06:52So it was, it was definitely a fun night and, you know, Steve's my guy, but, you know, Rutgers
06:58got the last laugh in the end, which was what it was all about.
07:01Yeah.
07:02Well, we know how many Scarlet Bozos, Scarlet Knights that Bill drafted at Rutgers.
07:07Can you, can you confirm if he was actually rooting for his son or his beloved Rutgers
07:10program?
07:11He was doing the right thing.
07:13He was rooting for his son, but I also told Steve and I told him like, let's make sure
07:18we have a Rutgers t-shirt under all of that purple and all of that, because we know where
07:22one's heart always lies, you know?
07:25So I'm sure they had some Rutgers gear somewhere, whether it was a t-shirt under, whether it
07:29was Rutgers underwear, I know the Rutgers gear was all.
07:32Yeah.
07:33All right.
07:34Yeah.
07:35Steve Belichick Rutgers alum.
07:36It's a, it was fun game.
07:37I actually watched that with Doug.
07:38We had just gotten into San Francisco.
07:39He's a UW guy and I'm like trying to figure out what the call is and I'm like, can I just
07:43like relax?
07:44Like this is a front, like it's stop, stop, stop doing this in a hotel room in San Francisco.
07:48Get outside.
07:49So I did.
07:50Last thing on this, cause it just occurred to me the next time you see Bill, I want you
07:53to pitch him on, Hey, you know, the 13 years of low lights in the crap that you shoveled
07:58into my lap, sitting front row in your meetings.
08:00We need to do some low lights of yours.
08:02Like you get the clicker, you're the media vet between the two of you and we need Bill
08:06any pause, any explanation that doesn't go anywhere, any non-comment.
08:10Like I, you can kind of give that back to him though.
08:14That will be pretty good.
08:15We pull up different plays, different calls that he made.
08:18You know where I would start.
08:19I'm starting with Miami miracle.
08:21So we get the breakdown of Miami miracle and the defense that we ran.
08:25That'd be our first, first play off the bat.
08:27So everyone watching would know we meant business.
08:31But good luck with that ever, ever happened.
08:34He has too many jobs to even think about doing that.
08:37Just guys too busy.
08:38Yeah.
08:39I mean, we, I didn't even think about bad calls that he made.
08:42I was just saying like first year in media, everyone's done well.
08:45I did love the shade that he was not subtle about throwing at the Falcons on that Monday
08:49night game on the man.
08:50Oh, here's the guy that they signed and contacted too early.
08:54Yeah.
08:55They got fined for that.
08:56Lost the draft pick and a second and seven anyway.
08:58That's what the squad meetings used to be.
09:00Throw a stray out there and then just simply act like you don't even realize what's going
09:05on and just smoothly say it and then move on to the next point about the football game
09:11as Mooney made a catch.
09:12Then he started talking about the catch.
09:14Like he didn't just say that it was awesome.
09:16Yeah.
09:17Oh, it's so good.
09:18And that's Bill.
09:19Like we talk about, Oh, he's not going to really have his personality.
09:21You just said it.
09:22Yeah.
09:23That's how he was in meetings.
09:24Yeah.
09:25That's him.
09:26Yep.
09:27Yeah.
09:28Okay.
09:29You brought up Miami and we're not going to talk about the Miami miracle.
09:30The first time that I was like, Oh wow, I'm about to rip Bill Belichick.
09:33Cause why was Gronk on the field for a game that should have ended in a win, but Miami
09:36is coming to Foxborough Sunday, one o'clock kick.
09:40Both teams are one in three.
09:41I have a column up today being like, I think the Patriots are already in a danger zone
09:45here and part of this is stuff outside of their control, right?
09:48Injuries, bad luck and depth and yada, yada, yada.
09:51But when I used to say this specifically last few years, some people within the team
09:54be like, Oh, media panic.
09:56This is all media panic.
09:57End of the world.
09:58You kind of gave me a little bit of that before we started.
10:00Scale one to 10, where are you on the panic meter with the pets?
10:04One.
10:05Again, I'm not in, I'm not, I don't live up there anymore, so I'm not, I'm not immersed
10:12in it daily, but like, didn't everybody go to the, to the, to the training camp practices?
10:20Didn't everybody see the joint practice against the Eagles?
10:22Didn't everybody go to the preseason games where most of the teams didn't play any starters
10:27and the Patriots never really dominated a game, even if they had won a good drive and
10:34a game and out of nowhere, you beat Cincinnati and everybody's like, Oh wow, maybe we were
10:41wrong.
10:42Maybe this team is really good.
10:43Maybe they do have a chance to finish first or second in a division.
10:47And I was just sitting there and I'm just like, no, it's a national football league.
10:53Everybody's figuring out what they're going to be in September.
10:56They're getting through things.
10:58It's so much going on, like patience, patience.
11:03They go and play the jets and I called the game on Westwood one and I'm not thinking
11:08anything about the quarterback.
11:10The next day they're like, should Drake may go in.
11:13I'm like, wait, you watched that game Thursday night and you thought Jacoby Brissett was
11:18the issue in that game.
11:19He got his head taken off over.
11:21I mean, Drake may checks into the game at the end and he almost gets killed.
11:25And then Aaron Rodgers and the offense marched up and down the field, dominated time of possession.
11:31They played the game exactly how the Patriots will.
11:34They won't win a game this year and they get dominated time of possession and three and
11:39outs and give up points on like they won't win a game.
11:43So for me, there's no panic because you'd like the expectations just wasn't that high.
11:50And I get it.
11:51And I'm speaking from my perspective inside that building.
11:54I was a player and I was a coach.
11:56You damn right.
11:57My expectations are high.
11:58I'm not putting in all of that work and expecting to lose, but you pull what they already had
12:04now and you lose.
12:05Like to me, the defense took a huge hit, losing big, like losing Juwan Bentley.
12:12He is in the mold of what we always had in New England.
12:16When I got there, it was Vince Wolfer.
12:18It was Gerard Mayo.
12:20Like they were the heartbeat of the defense, the checks, the understanding of how we needed
12:25to play.
12:26They just always understood how we need to compete as a defense.
12:29As those guys kind of moved on and what's name.
12:32It was myself.
12:33It was high tower.
12:34We were all we were doing that.
12:36Like we understood when one of us was out, the other one was there.
12:38Like you, you always had that.
12:40And then I've been excited about how Pep and Doug have really stepped up.
12:45Captain's doing well.
12:46Like the truth is like the way Bentley is like, he is the heart of that defense from
12:52the checks to the leadership.
12:55So I knew as soon as they lost him, I was like, no one's going to talk about it that
12:59much, but that's going to be a hard, hard replacement for them to replace all the intangible
13:06things that he brought to that defense.
13:08So you covered a lot there.
13:10And I want to come back to Bentley because I think you can speak to something that a
13:13lot of people can't, but we'll stay in the media side.
13:16You lose Juwan Bentley.
13:17Okay.
13:18He's a sure tackler.
13:19He's making the checks.
13:20That's a lot of leadership behind the scenes.
13:21I don't know tangible examples of what that means, like instances where you can see that
13:26you do.
13:27So I want to come back to that.
13:28I'm going to answer my own question off the top one to 10 panic meter is strong.
13:31I'm at like a six and it's not because I pegged the scene for any more than four or five wins.
13:35It's exactly what I had.
13:36But I want to ask you this question before the season, Devin, how many of these players
13:40could you have named the Monterey Jacobs, Michael Jordan, Brian Hudson, city.
13:46So in big Mike on wedding, all five or no, I was familiar with Michael Jordan played
13:53him when he's in Carolina city.
13:58So saw last year and I obviously, I know big Mike, that's where we leave that at.
14:03That is three out of five and that is their starting offensive line as a practice yesterday.
14:08Now, Nick Leverett got banged up in San Francisco and he replaced David Andrews and played really
14:13well and down for single pressure.
14:15Good job by him.
14:16But this is a place where it's not only okay, the talent's not good.
14:20You are to having injuries in spots to John Bentley, David Andrews, we're going to get
14:24to in a second.
14:25The, you just can't replace those guys.
14:27And like, if that's the foundation of the offense, there's nothing really to be done.
14:31Now, there's something that someone told me in the locker room yesterday, like, Hey, here's
14:35a good thing.
14:36It's a young team now.
14:37Like before when it was a bunch of old heads, that was our advantage, a lot of experience
14:41and versatility and all these guys, you had ego families, like you wanted to win.
14:45You knew what it felt like.
14:46You wanted to get back there.
14:47These guys don't know what he bet.
14:48They just want to play.
14:49They want to win.
14:51So I think the six is, is fair just because I think this is a slipperier slope than we
14:56acknowledge, but this can stop here against Miami.
14:58Cause I'm not honestly watching a ton of them and we'll get to them in a second to round
15:02back to Bentley and Andrews.
15:03What are they missing now with DA bent, possibly Duggar who has an ankle injury, like the behind
15:08the scenes leadership stuff, what, what is not going to happen or be affected with these
15:13guys being out for the year?
15:14Yeah.
15:15I think I'm starting with Bentley.
15:17When I think of bed, I think of Thursday night, you, you play against Aaron Rodgers and he's
15:23getting to the line of scrimmage and he's checking stuff.
15:26All right, well, what do we want to do as a defense?
15:28How comfortable do we feel with the guy who's playing middle linebacker, whether it's Jelani,
15:34whether it's Ray Kwan, like, and this is no knock on them.
15:38They just haven't, they didn't, they didn't do that.
15:40That was all Bentley's job of, all right, they're checking this.
15:43I think I know what he's checking too.
15:45I can get us in a new defense.
15:47Like it takes a lot of practice to have confidence and faith that when they check, we used to
15:53mail, used to say they check, we check, they check, we check.
15:56And then at some point they check and we don't have time to check anymore.
16:00So the balance of understanding that and being able to do that, they couldn't do that that
16:06Thursday night as I'm watching the game, like that wasn't happening.
16:10So I looked at what I walked away, it was like, that's, that's Bentley.
16:15That's tougher to do even for like a pepper in the dugger who are good leaders.
16:20They're stepping up.
16:21They've never had to do that because when you check something, it has to get all the
16:25way down to the front.
16:26So you need to know when you check it, that your middle linebacker, whoever that is, it's
16:29comfortable now making the check.
16:31You know how many times Dante Hightower cursed me out because I made a late check and put
16:35the pressure on him to get it to the front four guys, but then we would laugh about it
16:39later or I would say, my bad, that was a little late.
16:42We could do that.
16:43And I think it's the same thing from an offensive standpoint of having David Andrews defense
16:48gives you a new look.
16:49They jumped into something.
16:50He has the knowledge and experience to be like, I don't like what we're in right now.
16:55Hey, check it.
16:56Like those little things within a play, it seems like, well, that only happens a couple
17:00of times.
17:01No, you can get into a game where you can get a whole series of once this team starts
17:06going, they go and they're doing that.
17:09And now until you get into the locker room at halftime, do you have enough experience
17:14and stuff to say on the sideline, let's do this and let's do that in 2020 was a prime
17:18example.
17:19Hightower Hightower decides to opt out.
17:23Bentley gets hurt a little bit like we had linebackers that had never really played.
17:26So I had checks I would want to get to, but I have to now think, is it realistic for me
17:31to put this on some young guy who's getting his opportunity to play and he knows the game
17:36plan, but he doesn't know this check I'm trying to go to.
17:38So I think that's what they're they're going to struggle with now.
17:44And it's hard because each week you want to have a plan that allows you to play to that
17:51team strength.
17:52But when you start losing guys, it makes it harder and harder to get away from the things
17:57that you practice the most and do new things because you just don't have the rhythm.
18:02You don't have guys in there doing the same thing over and over again.
18:06So you end up trying to put more stress on other positions.
18:09So whether it's a secondary or different groups like that, or the tight end room, like rooms
18:14that you know you feel good about, just putting more pressure on them to do more so you can
18:19help the other guys along the way.
18:21Yeah.
18:22And if they get younger, which we know what they're going to do, that's part of the plan
18:25to pack away the rebuild that menu of checks of, oh, we do this in 22.
18:30Let's go back to this.
18:31Do this exactly.
18:32No coverage against empty.
18:33It's not available to you.
18:36So it's not just that Bentley's removed.
18:37You're like, okay, Rayquan McMillan's been around and he'll get more reps and we'll get
18:40more adjusted.
18:41But like that year you referenced the 20.
18:43It wasn't just that Anthony Jennings and Josh Uche were rookies at that linebacker level.
18:47These are guys who played on the edge in college and you had to sub in to play off the ball
18:52because of all the injuries you just mentioned.
18:54That's kind of where we're headed now.
18:55Not just that rookies are going to play, but they're going to play out of position.
18:59So can I get you to a two then out of 10 or are we still at one?
19:02Yeah, we can jump to a two.
19:05The reason the panic doesn't go high for me is because even if it looks better, they still
19:09might not win.
19:10It's just the truth of the matter.
19:13And I firmly believe the NFL is only about winning.
19:17We saw the Baker Mayfield comments about him coming in and being fun and Brady responded
19:22to it because ultimately New England has seen it.
19:26Nobody has fun losing every week or every other week or 10 or eight games in a row.
19:32That's not fun.
19:33I don't care what anybody says.
19:34Your coach can let you play dodgeball all you want.
19:37You can do fun things in facility.
19:39Going out there and losing every week is not fun for anybody.
19:43I don't care what anybody says.
19:45It's just not fun.
19:46Is Gerard playing dodgeball?
19:48I don't think so.
19:49That would be fun if he did, but I don't know if that would lead to job security.
19:54I know there are a lot of good NCAA football battles that are being had in the new game
19:58room, which never existed when you played.
20:01Pretty cool game room too.
20:02Yeah, I saw it one of the times I was up there.
20:04Yeah.
20:05Lucky I got to sneak in there somehow.
20:06Real quick and David Andrews, then we got to get to the game.
20:10My background on this is someone who spoke basically as close as you can to his injury
20:14situation.
20:15He insisted he was going to play Monday, didn't expect to make a decision until later this
20:20week.
20:21Tuesday comes out.
20:22Either the surgery is going to wipe out this season, but if he plays through it, it could
20:25impact his availability for 2025 when he's under contract and wants to play, confirm
20:29all that, mention that the decision is not imminent.
20:31Well, lo and behold, the Patriots had enough people talk to him.
20:34You should get the surgery.
20:35But even Tuesday morning, he's telling Jacoby Brissett, like, yeah, I'm going to try to
20:38work through it.
20:40He's not going to.
20:41They're going to miss a lot with him, aside from the checks and the protections.
20:44Just what does that dude mean in the locker room, having been around him as long as you
20:46were?
20:47Yeah, I just think, for one, he doesn't have a lot of words.
20:52He's a man of few words, but I think the the opportunity people get to just watch him
20:59undrive the free agent rookie year, played every snap in the preseason, every single
21:04snap in the preseason on offense.
21:06Like that's the mentality he has day in and day out.
21:10And the hard thing is, I think from the outside looking in, you're like, oh, well, he's not
21:14he's not going to play because the team is bad.
21:16He's not going to fight the injury like he should or the truth of the matter is sometimes
21:21you fight through injuries and you suck.
21:23You go out on the field and you suck like it just is what it is, especially depending
21:27on what you injured.
21:29And the reports came out that he injured his shoulder.
21:32So you go out there as an offensive lineman and people start to find out because you're
21:37probably going to have something on one of your shoulders and they see what is the game
21:42plan going to be?
21:43Yeah.
21:44Rush that shoulder like no matter what.
21:47And if you can't take that.
21:49So I think Dave's making the right decision because for one in this league, especially
21:54as you get older, every time you go out there on the field and you don't look good, everyone
21:57says you're old, you're done.
21:59So then you end your career.
22:01And the second part is you don't help the team going out there and being bad.
22:06The leadership, the presence he has, he can still have that.
22:10And I'm sure he will day in and day out being in the meeting rooms, being in the facility,
22:16guys seeing him attack rehab and understanding how much it means to him that he he's crushed
22:22that he's missing the season.
22:24Guys feed off of that.
22:25So and I know Dave, I know Dave will have that kind of impact on the team of being in
22:29their day to day, inspiring and motivating those guys.
22:33But I also think those guys will benefit from just watching him and watching how he attacks
22:38the rehab.
22:39Same thing he did in 19 when he had the blood clots and he had to be out.
22:43He was always there helping people, trying to figure out when he could fly on a plane
22:47to go to the way games like that's just who he is.
22:50And I think he'll have that same impact.
22:52Yeah, he's not going anywhere.
22:53He was at the practice facility.
22:56He was on the practice field yesterday with Nick, for whatever reason was limited and
23:01walking through talking through things.
23:03And a couple of guys were like, look, he's already coached.
23:05We have three offensive line coaches now.
23:07He's the fourth.
23:08That's that's just kind of what it is.
23:10All right.
23:11Pat's Miami coming up.
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24:04Are you going to guarantee a good game, too?
24:06I'm not going to guarantee anything.
24:08That's that's that's that's OK, here's here's the rundown.
24:13Patriots are one in three.
24:15Miami is one in three.
24:16The last four for the Dolphins, their entire schedule.
24:18And this is how we're going to go through all the preview episodes.
24:21Last week, they lost 31 to 12 at home to Tennessee.
24:24The week before, 24 to three loss at Seattle.
24:27The week before that, 31 to 10 loss versus Buffalo on Thursday night.
24:30But they won their opener 20 to 17 versus Jacksonville.
24:34These are both bottom five football teams.
24:36Patriots are 29th overall by DBA, 29th in offense, 28th in defense.
24:41But number two, number two in special teams, Miami, 31st, the second worst team in football
24:46right now by DBA, worst, dead last, 32nd in offense, 23rd on defense, eighth in special
24:53team.
24:54So when the Patriots have the ball, I ask the same question of James White and Mike
25:00Giardi the two weeks before.
25:02I don't know how Mike got on the five.
25:04It's just I'd like to say what a difference.
25:06You ask James White something, then you ask Mike, and hopefully you threw one of those
25:09opinions out.
25:10Yeah.
25:11I think we threw the whole episode out.
25:12It's just YouTube just said you violated our terms of policy.
25:15We need to reject this immediately.
25:16I'll ask you the same thing.
25:18What are you doing to jumpstart this passing game to whatever level that you can at this
25:22point?
25:23I mean, for one, it starts with protection, and it starts with being able to run the ball
25:28and have different looks off of running the ball.
25:33So I think one of the things that possibly could benefit them that they can handle it
25:37is get a little bit more uptempo.
25:40The problem is if you don't get first downs and you just you go three and out and the
25:43defense is back on the field fast, but just something I think that can get the team going.
25:49I think the Jets put a little bit of a formula of just sending pressure and being able to
25:55cover in the back end.
25:57San Francisco is always different.
25:58That's not really who they are, and they have some absolute studs on their team.
26:04But I think a game like this against Miami, you're playing so poorly on offense right
26:09now.
26:10You don't even know teams go to against you.
26:12You don't understand how they're going to play you, whereas some of these offenses,
26:17they know.
26:18You play against Aaron Rodgers, he's dicing up zone defense.
26:20So Aaron Rodgers knows usually going into the game, I'm probably going to get a little
26:24bit more man if they go zone.
26:25I'm not worried about that because I'm going to...
26:27I don't know what the offense in New England has right now to hang their hat of like, well,
26:32if they do this, that's our strength.
26:34So we're going to game plan mainly for them doing this because we know they can't do that
26:40against us and expect success.
26:41So I do, I think maybe a little know-how, a little up-tempo can help them out.
26:47Again, when you can't protect, it's really hard.
26:51And when I say protect, it doesn't mean that these guys are just awful.
26:55Protect consistently, being able to do different things from an offensive scheme standpoint
26:59that the offensive coordinator feels good of running plays and set up another play,
27:03like to get into a rhythm of the game.
27:06And that's what they've struggled to ever like fully get into a rhythm of the game,
27:10to be able to throw the ball down the field and get things going.
27:13So yeah, again, I think no huddle.
27:17I think obviously getting the running game going a little, what we used to call max passes
27:22where you try to block up everybody, keep an extra one or two guys in, but then you
27:27put a lot of pressure on the guys that are out, maybe two guys running a route, they
27:31got to win.
27:32You know what I mean?
27:33So that's the hard thing.
27:34But I will say overall, watching some of these young receivers, it looks like they're improving,
27:38they're winning.
27:39Polk had a non-catch that could have easily felt like it could have been a catch in San
27:43Francisco.
27:44Pop Douglas, I think they're struggling to get him the ball.
27:47But when you watch some of the film, he's open sometimes, like he's doing a good job
27:51getting open.
27:52So I think they should have some confidence in those guys, that receiver, to try to do
27:57some different things to get them the ball.
27:58Yeah.
27:59I mentioned tempo last week and I like it not even as, Hey, we're going to go no huddle
28:0480 miles an hour down the field, but you kind of change the pace, right?
28:07Like you talk about Aaron Rodgers, getting up to the line, using that cadence.
28:10Okay.
28:11Stop.
28:12Back off.
28:13Check with me.
28:14Jacoby can do that.
28:15He's done it.
28:16We saw it in training camp.
28:17It's just something like you said, to kind of jolt this.
28:18I want to first argue against my suggestion and then I'm going to make it because Miami
28:23right now, in addition to being the worst offensive league is using the highest rate
28:26of motion.
28:27And I don't know if you got the class or the seminar, the packet Devin, where it says the
28:31media must drool over motion at all times, because it's something we can see and we can
28:35measure.
28:36And that means it's something worthwhile.
28:37Miami, again, number one in the league in motion, dead last in scoring points.
28:42But I lot, I watched a lot of three yard stop routes in San Francisco as part of this quick
28:48game package.
28:49And what you have are Niners corners driving on those because there was nothing stressing
28:53them.
28:54Otherwise their receivers in isolation, the Patriots are dead last in motion at the snap
28:58this year.
28:59They're like 20th in overall motion.
29:01I need to stress the defense a little bit more schematically than I think they're doing
29:04right now to unlock some spaces, either, you know, moving eyes and zone or creating conflict
29:11and traffic versus man.
29:12And I'll do a little bit of this.
29:13Like pop Douglas will start in the left slot and zoom across the formation.
29:18And then he's running a wheel and it's a post wheel.
29:19You're like, okay, that's standard.
29:21But if you're staring at that as a DB, you're like, right, it's all simple.
29:25You just need to make it a little harder.
29:26So more motion like that, I think could get them some freer yards or easier access stuff
29:31than right now.
29:32It's like, okay, everyone has to win in the route.
29:33And that's the only way that we're going to throw the ball.
29:36Yeah.
29:37And the hard thing is for the most part, like I think of van Pelt, like their offense was
29:41always kind of built on more like personnel changes of running the same things with different
29:46personnel.
29:48So like in Cleveland, it was three tight ends, but it would look like three, three wide receivers
29:52in the game.
29:53And then you would throw the ball.
29:54And like, I haven't seen much of that.
29:56I know a little bit of that falls on the personnel that they have.
29:59But I think to your point is I would love to see the motions of it, but I think they
30:04have to get a little bit more exotic and that's easier said than done.
30:09When I don't know the capacity of which guys can handle and do those things.
30:13Do you have enough guys that, you know, we can run 13 personnel, three tight ends and
30:19have a full running game off of it, but also a full passing game drop back.
30:24Like, do we have enough time during the week to implement that and everybody get what they
30:30need to do?
30:31Or do we need to rep it a ton?
30:32So then if we rep a lot of that, then we lose another personnel group.
30:36Like that's the hard thing that I don't know from being in a building that they have, if
30:40they can do that.
30:42That to me, offensively, they have to find advantages before the play starts, like give
30:47them some kind of edge before the play starts.
30:50Because I know people, they hate hearing it, but like overall, when you draw up what they're
30:56going against, a lot of times, like there's a good amount of matchups as a defense.
31:01You come into the game and you go, I like that matchup for us.
31:04Like I like that.
31:06When you have that situation, you have to try to find certain edges to even a playing
31:12field or give your guys enough of an edge that it makes it a little bit easier to make
31:17a play or eventually like the other team just makes a couple more plays than you.
31:23Yeah.
31:24And to the point about matchups, I want to get where you think they should just hammer
31:28the Dolphins, if anywhere.
31:29But it's kind of a loaded question, or maybe it's not loaded at all.
31:33When you're 31st and passing in your 27th and rushing right now by DBA, now granted
31:37Miami defensively 22nd against the past 26 against the run, you brought up the tight
31:42ends.
31:43And again, I want your answer on this too.
31:45I think that's where I would pivot.
31:46Like there are three receiver sets right now.
31:48We're giving them nothing.
31:48They have the lowest success rate of any of their personnel groupings.
31:51They're using them a ton.
31:52There are a lot of different reasons for that.
31:54But at least when you're in those two tight end packages, that helps in protections.
31:57If you want to go to some of those max looks, these guys can chip if they're going to dump
32:01off into the flat anyway or run a little stick or run a little stop out or whatever.
32:05And right now, the patch are third worst bypass yards per attempt in six worse bypass rating
32:10overall as a passing offense.
32:12But when they run two tight ends as 12 personnel sets, they're average.
32:17It's average bypass rating in yards per attempt.
32:19So that's what I would see.
32:20But whether it's something the Patriots are doing with their personnel or attacking Miami's,
32:25what's an area you say this is a battleground you have to attack and circle and look at.
32:32I think it's on the edge and in the run game.
32:35And I think ultimately can lead into the past game.
32:38You know, they lost the Dolphins lost, lost Jalen Phillips last week.
32:43And, you know, he's the type of guy who's a stud, you know, a really good football player
32:47for them.
32:47So to me, you just said a 26 and rushing as a defense.
32:52That's something that you have showed can be a strength for you.
32:55Now you're banged up on the offensive line as well.
32:58But that, to me, is something that they they need to kind of play towards getting
33:03Gibson and getting remandering on the edge and having the ability to make plays.
33:08And then that also comes with once you get the running game going,
33:11maybe it's a reverse to pop Douglas.
33:13Maybe it's a jet sweep to pop Douglas to get him on the outside and get the ball in his hands.
33:18And I would say, especially early, trying to get different guys the ball early and not
33:24just doing it the traditional way.
33:26I would love to like I would credit Josh McDermott.
33:29I thought he did as good of a job as anyone in 2020 when we had Cam, where Cam didn't
33:35get a full all season and training camp.
33:38And we used to find different ways to do different things, whether it was Jacobi Myers throwing
33:44a pass, like whatever it looked like, you just try to do different things to help us
33:49as an offense to like, all right, if I steal three or four plays that can ultimately lead
33:54us into the red zone where we either score and now we get to 21 points or we score twice
34:00and we kick two field goal, like different things like that.
34:03I think he did a really good job of that.
34:05And I think this Patriots offense, they have to find ways to get other guys.
34:10Like you can't bank on, we're going to throw the ball to our receivers on three, three
34:16step drops, quick slants, hitches, throw the ball.
34:20Like we can't bank on that because that hasn't happened for us through the first four games.
34:24So what else, what are other things we can do to help get these guys the ball in their
34:29hands and allow the playmakers to make plays?
34:32So speaking of those receivers, some good news here for the Patriots, Kendrick Bourne
34:36practicing again this week.
34:37Right now, from what I've heard, I would bank on him playing on Sunday.
34:41Once I have that a little firmer, you'll, you'll see it in writing, but for the folks
34:45listening to the pod, things are looking good.
34:46Number two is Vidarian Lowe might be back, which I want everyone to pause and reflect
34:50on the fact that he was his name.
34:52Give him some respect.
34:54Yes.
34:54Yes.
34:54Give him some respect.
34:55His name was shorthand for how do I want to catch her?
34:57The Pat's offensive line sucks.
34:59Oh, I'll say Vidarian Lowe's are starting left tackle.
35:01And he gave up four pressures in both the games.
35:03Now he is your, you know, savior of this offensive line.
35:07He might be back laying Robinson banged up.
35:09He's having a tough time in past, bro.
35:10He's a rookie.
35:12I made this cop before.
35:13I don't know if you think this is fair shades, like very distant, faint shades of a young
35:18Shaq Mason.
35:20Fair.
35:21And that's what you expect.
35:22Like, again, I'll never pretend I'm a expert of offensive line play.
35:27I don't, I don't watch much of the big uglies when I turn on the game, but young rookies
35:33will never, unless they're special, like, it's just not a smooth transition weekend
35:37and week out playing on the offensive line at different looks.
35:40You get like all of those things makes it harder.
35:43So that's, that's a work in progress.
35:45But the key for them is those guys being on the field so they can get better practicing
35:51playing in the games.
35:52Like that is what New England has to push, push towards it.
35:56Like those guys being out there and not banged up so much because then every time you get
36:00banged up, you're limited in practice.
36:02So you're not really practicing.
36:03You get out there on the game.
36:05Like a lot of these, they're not good enough to not get it in during the weekend practice
36:09and then go play in the game.
36:11Like it takes, it takes a while to build towards that, to be able to do that at a high level.
36:16Yeah.
36:16And they've had guys in and out.
36:17David Andrews is out.
36:18We don't know what that's going to look like until they're actually out on the field, but
36:21the protection is what it is.
36:22Hopefully more motion, more tight ends, maybe a little bit more tempo on offense.
36:26And I honestly, NFL teams are five and 33 this year when they score fewer than 17 points.
36:32Can we just get it to 18?
36:34Like just, just, yeah.
36:37Oh, and they have one of those wins by the way, because it was 16 to 10 in Cincinnati.
36:41Defensively.
36:42I mentioned Kendrick Barnes and practicing again.
36:44The same is so true for Seoni Takitaki, Marte Mapu.
36:47I have no idea what to expect in anything from either of those guys, even though right
36:50now is Kyle Duggar likely out with an ankle injury.
36:53Pep has been out with a shoulder injury and we'll see what brings there.
36:57But you're talking Jalen Hawkins, Del Pettis, maybe Brendan Schooler playing there.
37:01Maybe they rushed Mapa back.
37:03Maybe they don't.
37:04I want to ask you about something else though, because I've said this, I've written it and
37:07I've given my reasons why, but you are more familiar with the system.
37:11You played there, you know, the guys, everything.
37:12I think the Patriots have been outcoached a little bit on defense last two weeks.
37:15You covered the Jets game.
37:17I saw it in San Francisco, the way that they were playing as much base as they were.
37:20Injuries factored.
37:21That's what Shanahan wants.
37:22I'm going to run the ball 30 times to you and hit you over the top of play action.
37:25Do you agree though, or disagree with this notion that the last couple of weeks,
37:29unlike in the opener, I think they've been outcoached a little bit.
37:32I thought the Jets game definitely fall into that.
37:37I knew San Francisco was going to be a tough ass because we played them in 2020.
37:42The way their scheme is built is really tough on the Patriots.
37:45What they do and the way they're built, how they can come out in big personnel,
37:50but because of George Kittle and Uchek, they can then spread you out.
37:55But now you have the big people on the field.
37:57And Kyle Shanahan knows exactly what we're talking about with the Patriots,
38:00on what they should do.
38:01San Francisco not only does that, they have some of the best versatile pieces
38:07in the National Football League.
38:09Debo Samuel, George Kittle, and Uchek.
38:12Those three guys and having a game plan in front of me,
38:15I have no idea where they're going to line up or what they might do on a play,
38:18is really hard.
38:20And then you put in a factor that the Patriots are now playing without their signal caller,
38:25the guy who would be responsible for getting them in and out of the defenses.
38:28I think that has been more to do with some of their defensive struggles and being outcoached.
38:37I don't know how much Demarcus Covington can actually install and implement
38:42or it's going to be new.
38:43And based on stopping the new offense that they're playing,
38:47I think that has been a big challenge for them.
38:51And I thought that even showed up a little bit to me.
38:54Seattle too was, I thought they need to play way more man-to-man coverage
38:58because Geno and that, they were dicing up the zone.
39:02And I thought they needed to get to some more man
39:04when I helped them in that game as well.
39:06So Miami, going back to that for here for a second,
39:08their 30th and passing, 32nd rushing, they stink.
39:11They're terrible.
39:12A lot of this is losing to a...
39:14They haven't been particularly good up front.
39:15Patriots are 28th versus the pass, 18th versus the run.
39:19You're scouting a part of this system.
39:21And Shanahan asks, what did you know about what they want to do
39:24and how they want to do it when you were playing and you still watch them now?
39:29It's what you just said though.
39:30It's what do they want to do when two is there
39:32and what do they want to do when two is not there?
39:35When two is there, I would say for the most part,
39:37they do the same things, they just don't hit the same way.
39:40The play action, the quick throws over the middle, the pop pass,
39:43how they're able to attack the middle of the field,
39:45but also have this speed that as they fake or a jet motion
39:49and it's A-chain or whoever it has been in the past,
39:54they've been able to exploit that with some speed guys
39:57and they get you kind of going this way, east and west.
40:01And then all of a sudden, it's Waddle, it's Tyric Hill right behind you.
40:05And it's so fast that when they catch the ball, they're gone.
40:10For some reason, they cannot find another quarterback
40:13who can come off those reads the way Tua could,
40:17whether it was Teddy Bridgewater, Skylar Thompson,
40:19like you name it through the years when I was there,
40:22when Tua got into NFL, when we played Tua, we lost.
40:25When Tua was out, we won.
40:28Like it was that simple because the impact he has.
40:31So for the Patriots, without Tua being in there, everything just slows down.
40:36So the truth of the matter is,
40:38if you watch the Buffalo Bills and the way they play them,
40:41they're like, and this is even with Tua,
40:42they're like, go ahead, run the ball.
40:45You'll get a couple of runs.
40:47But the thing we will not do,
40:49we will not give up the middle of our defense.
40:52And I'm not 100% sure
40:54because I didn't go back and watch a bunch of the Buffalo games,
40:56but this year when I watched it,
40:58I felt like Buffalo's linebackers take a step back
41:01to get instead of like four and a half, five,
41:03it's almost like six yards between them and the line of scrimmage.
41:06They run downhill, they play that way.
41:08And then the secondary backs up and they say,
41:11you're not going to run by us.
41:12Like it's that simple.
41:13Drive the field, figure it out.
41:16Then if you score that way, we'll live with it.
41:18But most likely you won't.
41:20Now the gift Buffalo has is they have 17 on the other side.
41:23He goes and scores touchdowns and they play from ahead.
41:27If New England could do that, play that style
41:29and get some points on the board and play from ahead,
41:32that takes the running game out all by itself.
41:35So it'll be interesting to see
41:36if they can pull that off and do it.
41:38Yeah, I agree.
41:39To your point, Buffalo also plays a ton of cover too,
41:42which we've seen a lot from the Patriots here.
41:43And you want to talk about capping, Hill and Waddle.
41:46That's where I would start.
41:47If I'm not sure about my safeties, don't put them in the middle.
41:49Like you were always responsible all alone.
41:51Like you are today at the household, like single highest stuff.
41:55We've got to play cover too.
41:56When it's just, you know, you got two parents
41:58or two safeties back there, especially with some injuries.
42:00And again, I don't think Duggar's going to play.
42:02I think Pep might.
42:03You're dealing with injuries at linebacker, up front, defensively.
42:06The edges are going to be huge too, because that's know-how,
42:08whether it's your motion or just getting a chin on the edges
42:12or sometimes giving the ball to Hill and Waddle.
42:13That's how they want to play.
42:15The issue for them is Tyler Huntley is now pulling the trigger.
42:17To your point, he was 14 to 22, 96 yards,
42:20rushed for another 40 in a touchdown on the ground
42:23when Miami played Tennessee last week.
42:24But this is your biggest hope if you're the Patriots going.
42:27He's technically a pro bowler, but he's in a new offense
42:31and he's still learning the names of the guys
42:32he's throwing the ball to.
42:34So is this as simple to you as keep Huntley in the pocket
42:36and keep a lid on Hill and Waddle,
42:38who both are fine to start this year, 17 catches
42:41and just over 200 yards?
42:42But is it that simple?
42:43Yeah, I mean, hopefully you get Anthony Jennings back.
42:45You get him back, who one thing about Jennings is,
42:49you know, edge is going to be set
42:52and you get Keon White on the opposite side.
42:54Like you should feel pretty good about setting the edge
42:57and having those guys have their eyes open
43:00and seeing the speed coming,
43:01whether it's Tyreek Hill coming in the back,
43:03all those little things,
43:04you should feel good about that.
43:06I think the key for them is going to be like,
43:08how good do you feel inside, right?
43:10Your defensive tackles, your linebackers,
43:12to your safeties of, all right,
43:15those guys are doing a good job of forcing it back inside.
43:18Now we got to step up.
43:19We got to get off blocks.
43:20We got to make plays.
43:21So I think that'll be, that'll definitely be a key.
43:24But yeah, Huntley could ruin the game simply by running.
43:28That is something they have to make sure
43:30when they get him past the situations
43:32that they realize it's more important
43:33that he has more time in the pocket
43:36where he's sitting there in the pocket to throw
43:38than it is where you rush him,
43:40you make him leave the pocket,
43:41but now there's no edge and he can just run.
43:43Like that's a lot worse for that defense
43:46than him sitting back there patting the ball
43:48because if he's patting the ball,
43:49that means we're still doing pretty good in coverage.
43:51We got to bank on that.
43:53He's going to struggle to know where to go with the ball
43:56and eventually we will get home and get the sack,
43:58but you don't want to run.
44:00Like I was watching Pittsburgh film
44:02and Indy came scot-free off the edge.
44:04They got Justin Fields, dead to rights, unblocked guy.
44:07He looks at the guy, puts his foot on the ground,
44:09runs the other way, picks up 16 yards.
44:11And Snoop Huntley's the same way.
44:13Like you can be free to him,
44:14but if he makes you miss, he's gone.
44:17So they have to do a good job of keeping him in a pocket
44:21and contain rushing him, whatever words you want to use,
44:25but making sure he stays in the pocket.
44:27Cool. All right.
44:28We're going to go speed around here.
44:29You've been more than gracious with your time,
44:31staying way longer than I told you we would go.
44:33Three, two, one preview.
44:34We do three matchups, two keys, one wildcard thought.
44:37A matchup you're looking, saying like, okay,
44:39if this is going to decide the game,
44:41might decide the game, this is that matchup.
44:43Oh, it's definitely Miami's defensive line
44:46versus the New England offensive line.
44:48I think that is the matchup that I want to see.
44:52There's, sadly in this game,
44:54there's no like one guy that, you know,
44:56you sit there and you say they have to.
44:58I think Miami's interior with a sealer
45:02and Calais Campbell could be a problem,
45:04but overall like the Patriots have to dominate.
45:08Like the game they won this year,
45:10they manhandled the line of scrimmage offensively.
45:14Like that has to be the key for them.
45:15Yeah. I'm looking at the edges.
45:17We just talked about it.
45:18Jennings should be back.
45:18You still got Uche in the mix.
45:20Wise is there.
45:20Keon White's running behind the quarterback,
45:22which we know is just the fastest way
45:24to a timeout and Bill Belichick's defense
45:25go stand in the corner, Keon,
45:27and stare there for 10 minutes.
45:29The other one I'm looking for is just ball security.
45:32Anyone running by Ramondre Stevenson
45:35who has a handout versus him,
45:37because that ball's been on the ground way too much.
45:39In a way, you don't see it in high school.
45:42And we took this long to get to it
45:44because I don't know what more there is to say.
45:46It's just, it's just bad.
45:47And it's tough for them
45:48because they have to give him the ball.
45:50As much as you want to feed Gibson,
45:53and that's great.
45:54I would give Gibson more carries too this week.
45:56But like, you need to run the ball a lot.
45:58You need two guys.
45:59So Ramondre is going to have the ball in his hands.
46:02And he just, he's a guy that,
46:05they have to feel is one of their best way.
46:06He has to be better.
46:08This isn't all Mayo to make a decision.
46:10And you know, like Ramondre Stevenson
46:13has to be better protecting the ball
46:15because they count on him to play.
46:18And they're going to continue to count on him to play.
46:19It's up to him to get that done.
46:22Yeah. You're holding the ball.
46:23You're, you're holding the franchise.
46:25Three match-ups there.
46:26Two keys.
46:27What do you got?
46:28Or one key?
46:30One key for the game.
46:33You took the best key ever
46:34because the game is not turnovers
46:38are the key to the game.
46:40But I would go on the other side.
46:42I will flip it to defense.
46:43I think the key to the game will be the secondary.
46:46I think for every position that's hit,
46:49the corner group is still good.
46:51If Peppers can get out there and play,
46:53if Marte can come back
46:56and they can, you know,
46:57use the other guys like Del Pettis in school,
46:59if they can use them in a role,
47:01you have to look and say,
47:02all right, that's probably our biggest strength right now
47:05as a defense of having Gonzalez
47:08and the Jones brothers or Marcus and John.
47:10Like you, you have to feel pretty good.
47:12So they're going to need them to step up
47:15and be able to be a little bit more creative
47:18with the other guys,
47:19relying on the corners and the guys in the secondary
47:22to hold their ground and be able to handle things.
47:25Because again, I know neither offense is good
47:28so far this season.
47:30I just think that New England can never forget
47:32like the defense is a strength of this team.
47:35And if they play poorly,
47:37it's going to be really hard to win.
47:40It's going to be hard to even compete
47:41if they don't play well.
47:43Yeah, I already said setting the edge with the matchup.
47:45I will just go tackling of Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddell.
47:48Like they, as bad as they've been on offense,
47:51speaking of Miami and Tyler Huntley's running around,
47:53doesn't know anybody.
47:54Their stress on you is that, you know,
47:56if you miss a tackle, they could be gone to the house.
47:59Tyree Kill, Jalen Waddell, HN, don't let that happen.
48:02Just tackle well.
48:03Last thing, one wild card thought.
48:05As long as it's Pat Stolphins, it could be a memory.
48:07It could be goofy.
48:08It could be X's and O's, whatever it is.
48:10Just a wild card thought about this game.
48:13Oh man, wild card thought of Miami and New England.
48:16I'm not going to, you know what I'm not going to do?
48:18I'm going to do what Bill always said.
48:20Don't live in the past.
48:21So I'm not going to bring up some great memory
48:23of like Monday night football, playing the Dolphins
48:26and all of that good stuff.
48:27You have good memories against Miami?
48:28I was going to say it might be the opposite.
48:31No, no, we, I mean, the funny thing is
48:34because we won so much.
48:35When we lost, it was a way bigger deal
48:37and like forgotten about how many times overall
48:40we did win that matchup a ton and dominated division.
48:44But the times we did lose, it just, again, you know,
48:48Boston, the Celtics won a championship last year
48:51and the whole run, it was like, this team doesn't look good.
48:54And it was like, they lost like three games
48:55in the whole playoff.
48:56So, but no, wild card thing for me
48:59is Jacoby Brissett has three touchdown passes
49:02in this game on Sunday.
49:05Let it rip, Jacoby.
49:06I'm going to text him after this and tell him
49:08I just went on and said he would have
49:10three touchdown passes in the game.
49:14I think, and again, the wild card thought
49:16is not without reason.
49:18New England's defense will create turnovers
49:20that will allow them to be in favorable field position
49:23that will allow them to throw the ball into the end zone.
49:27Because Miami, there's no way you can play New England
49:30and forget eight in a box.
49:32Like your safety, maybe your free safety
49:36is nine or eight yards off the ball.
49:38Like I just, the way that New England has played,
49:42I just don't see a reason to be any further than 10 yards
49:46by anybody who's a deep player until the ball snaps.
49:48So I think that'll allow them to throw the ball
49:51and Jacoby Brissett lets it rip Sunday.
49:53Yeah, okay, cool.
49:55And now look, if it goes the opposite way,
49:57I will apologize to him for setting you up to jinx him
50:00as bad as you did.
50:01I'll say this, whoever's leading after the first quarter
50:03wins this game.
50:04That's what I think this is.
50:06You're gonna feel that pressure and stress.
50:07Like it's just-
50:08You don't think it's a high likelihood of 0-0?
50:12Oh, then we all lose.
50:12Then we're all gonna go home and die and no one had fun.
50:16And here we are again at one and four, but hopefully not.
50:18Hopefully there's some juice.
50:19It's gonna be a great day at the stadium.
50:21You're gonna be on Sunday Night Football.
50:23Who do you guys have this week for Sunday night, by the way?
50:26We got Pitt and Dallas, old school classic.
50:30That's just like the easy ratings button
50:32that you're just slamming there.
50:33Anytime it's the Cowboys, but especially Steeler.
50:35Look, I'm not gonna say I'm not going to watch, but-
50:37It should be a good game.
50:42Yeah, yeah.
50:42Thank you so much.
50:43Always appreciate the time, man.
50:44Especially when you go overtime
50:45and we'll have to see how this follows up.
50:47Jacoby Percet, three touchdowns.
50:49It's a lot.
50:50I'm gonna text him.
50:51If he doesn't get it done, then I'm gonna call Mayo and say,
50:54hey, I told him that he had a job to do.
50:56He didn't do it.
50:56It might be time to just cut him now.
51:00This is going on for real.
51:02Thank you, Devin.
51:03No problem, man.
51:04All right, Jalen Polk is our victim this week
51:06in the four-minute drill.
51:07To wrap up another episode of Pat's Interference,
51:08he knows the drill.
51:09You know the drill.
51:10We're gonna start the clock and here we go.
51:12Jalen Polk goes to karaoke.
51:14What's the first song he's gonna pick?
51:17I'll probably pick the song where it goes,
51:22to the right, to the right, to the right.
51:25Yeah, yeah.
51:25So it'd be that one.
51:26Are you doing it at that volume?
51:28I feel like you gotta be a little bit louder at karaoke bar.
51:30Nah, yeah, I'll be louder for sure.
51:32I like that song just cause, you know,
51:35it can get everybody up and out this season dancing too.
51:38All right.
51:39The NFL corner you're most looking forward to facing
51:41either this season or sometime in your career is who?
51:45I really don't have a valid answer on that one.
51:49I just look forward to going out there
51:51and competing every week with anybody.
51:54How about the next guy, Jalen Ramsey?
51:55You looking forward to that?
51:56Yeah, for sure.
51:57The most important lesson you've learned
51:59about being in the NFL is what?
52:01I think weighing in correctly and when weigh-ins come in.
52:10Of course, you know, not being late.
52:14They fine you nowadays.
52:15So not saying that that's me,
52:17but that is something that you gotta look forward to.
52:20Okay.
52:21When you look across this locker room
52:23and you think I'm the best at this,
52:25it could be a game, an activity.
52:26What is that?
52:27What does that think?
52:29Cooking.
52:30What do you cook?
52:31I can cook some chicken spaghetti.
52:32I can cook some turkey necks, some oxtails.
52:36I can cook whatever you need.
52:38I got it.
52:38Anything you need?
52:39Because I was going to say I don't cook,
52:40but I make chicken, turkey and spaghetti,
52:42but the oxtails was new.
52:43That's a curve ball.
52:43Yeah, oxtails with some corn bread,
52:46some gravy and some rice.
52:47You're good.
52:48All right.
52:49Best part of moving to New England so far?
52:50I think the best part is honestly the people
52:53and the scenery is real pretty out here,
52:56especially like right now with the fall
52:58and how, you know, everything is changing.
53:00So it's pretty cool.
53:03All right.
53:03Worst part of moving to New England?
53:05There's no worst part so far other than I think,
53:10I think like there's not as many like fast foods.
53:12I don't know.
53:13That may be where like I live at,
53:15but they're kind of spread out.
53:16So you got to kind of dig and look for them.
53:18Yeah.
53:18I was going to say you're coming from, you know,
53:20Seattle, you got in and out
53:21and then you're coming from Texas before that.
53:22Like anything you want is probably
53:24just a five minute driveway.
53:24A little different here.
53:25Yeah, a lot different for sure.
53:26You like Dunkin?
53:27I love Dunkin.
53:28I love Dunkin.
53:29I've no hold off on Starbucks,
53:32but I kind of shifted away.
53:33My girlfriend put me on a drink.
53:35I think it's like the butter pecan iced coffee
53:38with cream, no sugar.
53:39It's been my go to.
53:41Every morning?
53:42Not every morning, but mostly like on the off days.
53:46All right.
53:46We got a minute and a half left.
53:48You scored a touchdown in college
53:49against Christian Gonzalez in Oregon.
53:51I know it wasn't against him,
53:52but I'm curious when you were getting ready for that game,
53:54what was the scouting report number zero over there?
53:56Oh yeah.
53:57Shoot, elite guy.
53:59So you got to be able to game plan and prep
54:02around guys like that
54:03because it's going to be a dog fight
54:06when you able to line up against somebody like that.
54:09All right.
54:09What's the wildest ask you've received,
54:12a request in the last 12 months
54:14from someone in your life?
54:15Tickets, money, you get to the NFL,
54:17someone comes out of the woodwork to say,
54:19oh, can I have one of these?
54:22Probably like snacks and stuff
54:24from like some of the guys in the receiver room.
54:27With the snacks and their teammates?
54:29Yeah.
54:30So they had me and JB go to the store
54:33and bring everybody snacks
54:35and that just tally up stuff every day
54:38until we brought some stuff.
54:39Okay.
54:40Sounds like rookie hazing.
54:41Yeah, yeah.
54:42All right.
54:42Two more.
54:43What does Jalen Polk trash talk sound like?
54:48Jalen Polk is here right now.
54:49I think on the field is like PZ or Monster P.
54:52So he's not here right now.
54:54You got to tune in on Sunday to see.
54:56Wait, you have a persona?
54:58Yeah.
54:58Yeah.
54:58Monster P.
54:59Monster P.
55:00Give us a little taste of Monster P.
55:01This will be the last question.
55:02We're running out of time.
55:02But like, what's that dude like?
55:07That's all I can say.
55:08All right.
55:08Put on the mask.
55:09That'll do it for the four minute drill.
55:10Jalen Polk, aka Master P.
55:11Monster P, excuse me.
55:13Thank you, sir.