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The Jeremy Kyle Show (22 Feb 2017)
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00:10On today's show...
00:11You believe that the kid is yours, she says it's not, it's maths. If you are the father,
00:19what happens?
00:20I won't access anything.
00:21Sit down.
00:22Shut your mouth.
00:23Sit down.
00:24Shut your mouth and listen to me for a minute, yeah?
00:25Shut your mouth.
00:26No, no.
00:28Shut up.
00:30Shut your mouth.
00:36Twice, pop.
00:38On the kitchen floor and in the bathroom.
00:41The DNA test results show that the biological father of Laura's baby is...
00:49Come with me.
00:52You bare faced liar, I swear to God you did not...
00:54No, no, no, I'm not talking to you.
00:56Hang on, listen to what I'm saying.
00:58Listen to me for a minute.
01:00Listen to me for a minute. Shut up!
01:04I'll prove my daughter's best mate stole my savings.
01:07£630.
01:09She's not stolen this money.
01:12Did you steal the money that went missing from Sharon's house?
01:14She said no, Angie. Why did you say no?
01:16Because I was telling the truth.
01:24APPLAUSE
01:38Hello, my friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:40Our first guest today, Steve, is here for all-important DNA results
01:43on his ex, Laura's young son.
01:45Now, after a year-long on-off relationship with Laura,
01:48Steve decided to end things, but says that after their split,
01:51he discovered suddenly that she was pregnant.
01:53Now, he says he was told that Laura had miscarried this baby,
01:56but he is adamant that she's lying about this
01:58so she could then pretend that her current partner, Matt,
02:01is the dad to this baby.
02:03Quite confusing.
02:05Both men here today desperate for DNA proof,
02:07and Steve says if he is the dad, I'm going to get access.
02:09Big day for this guy.
02:11Steve is on The Jeremy Carl Show. That way.
02:13APPLAUSE
02:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:22You walked on as slow as this. What's the matter with you?
02:25Just chilling, innit? Chilling, innit?
02:29Do I look like I'm chilling, innit? Yeah.
02:32Steve, 24, did you lie about losing our baby
02:35so your boyfriend could pretend he's the dad?
02:37Now, listen, you and Laura, how long were you with her?
02:40I was only with her, like, 12 months. How did you meet? Facebook?
02:44Blackberry messaged her.
02:46What happened?
02:48What happened, what I can't...
02:50Well, my friend of a family, innit?
02:52Innit? Messaged my... Messaged my pin out on BBM,
02:55and then she added me.
02:57When you met her, you slept with her straightaway, didn't you?
03:00Yeah. First night? Yeah. She'd come down to mine.
03:02You had sex with her on the first date? Yeah.
03:04Unprotected sex? Yeah.
03:06What...? Yeah. Why not?
03:08Why didn't you put something on the end of it?
03:10I should have, but...
03:13Right, anyway.
03:15How long were you with her before you discover she's pregnant?
03:18What happens? Just give me some facts.
03:20What happened was, I went to jail, innit?
03:22Innit? Yeah. What did you go to jail for?
03:24Kidnap. Blackmail. Putting my damage.
03:27It's not great, is it? No, it isn't.
03:29And, you know, I hold my hands off.
03:31Had you broken up with her before you went to prison? Yeah.
03:33Did you know she was pregnant before you went to prison? No.
03:35Did you find out she was pregnant whilst you were in prison?
03:38Yeah. How? Through my family.
03:40And did she not send you a message?
03:42Yeah, she sent me a message. In prison?
03:44No, she didn't send me a message in prison.
03:46She sent it me on Facebook when I got out.
03:48All right, which said, do you want to meet your son? Yeah.
03:50So, in your mind, at that point, this kid is yours. Yeah.
03:53How do we go from there to being here...?
03:56She said to me that the baby wasn't mine, like...
03:58What, she said it wasn't, then she said it wasn't?
04:00Yeah, then she told me that she had a miscarriage, but she didn't.
04:03And then it all just came out like that.
04:05And now she's with Matt. He's been with her for two and a half years.
04:08Pardon? What is?
04:10What is she saying? Two and a half years? That's a lie.
04:13Are you still in love with her? No.
04:15All right. So the point is, you said, and I think this is really interesting,
04:19I think that she told me I was, then she told me I wasn't,
04:22cos she's with him and she wants to play happy families.
04:25And today is about me discovering if I'm the father.
04:28If you are the father, what happens?
04:30I want access, innit? But... Innit?
04:32Sorry. It's my chapter.
04:34Anyway, back to the story.
04:37You believe that the kid is yours, she says it's not, it's Matt's.
04:40There's another point. Between splitting up with you in the prison
04:43and her being with him, all loved up, you say,
04:45that's a bit rich, she's come between the two of us.
04:48You've slept with her. When was the last time you slept with her?
04:51Over about three years ago.
04:53Let's go further. You say she puts it about...
04:56Where's she going?
04:58Well, go on, let's go and find her. All right.
05:01Where's she going? Why do people walk off?
05:03I don't know where she's gone, this whole thing.
05:05Come with me. What are we doing?
05:07Hello? Sorry, what's that all about?
05:11We're about to go on stage, what are you walking off for?
05:13Because I didn't want to see him.
05:15What have I done? You're doing a DNA test.
05:18We're going to have to go and do this,
05:20otherwise we're not going to get any answers.
05:22She sent him a message saying, do you want to meet your son?
05:24Now you say it's not his son. Have you ever told him that it is?
05:26No, it's not his. But did you say...
05:28You bare-faced liar, I swear to God, you did not...
05:30No, no. I'm not talking to you.
05:32Listen to me. Hang on, listen to me.
05:34You listen to me now. Listen to me, yeah?
05:36She turned round to me, yeah, and said, it's your son, yeah?
05:39Do you know that time when she went to Handsworth Park?
05:42Yeah, don't even check me now, cos I know that you knew,
05:45because you had Lily. Don't lie to me. Your mum had Lily.
05:48Who's Lily? Her daughter.
05:50My daughter's not called Lily. Have you ever told him?
05:52Whatever, I don't care. No.
05:54You bare-faced liar.
05:56You said on the stage, Joss, the last time you slept with her was three years ago.
05:59No, hang on, listen to what I'm saying.
06:01Hang on, listen to me for a minute.
06:03Listen to me for a minute. Don't hype her.
06:05Shut up, man, for a minute, yeah?
06:07I'm not being cheeky, shut up for a minute,
06:09cos you don't know... I'm not being cheeky.
06:11Sorry, and you don't know why, because she met me at six o'clock
06:14in Handsworth Park, and you know what?
06:16You're calling me a liar.
06:18So I wasn't borrowing my boy's MG, yeah, to go down to Handsworth Park.
06:22Your boy's got an MG? Yeah.
06:24You're lying to me, then, yeah?
06:26So my missus never called me to go and meet her?
06:28Your missus? You were saying you were sister until you got here?
06:30Hang on, hang on, hang on.
06:31So she hasn't got a tattoo there of the baby's name?
06:34My baby's name? Hang on.
06:36Hasn't she got a tattoo there? I wouldn't know this, would I, if I didn't meet her?
06:39Sorry, can I...?
06:40Sorry, can I just...?
06:42Sorry, can I just...? No disrespect.
06:44Are you going to speak, love?
06:46No, no, no.
06:48Why are you not saying...? Yeah, that's all well and good.
06:50He says you told him that the kid was his.
06:52The kid's not his.
06:54Did you ever send a message after prison
06:56saying, come and meet your son?
06:58No. Why do I not believe that?
07:00I'm not sticking up for him.
07:02You describe him as manipulative
07:04and violent and a serial cheat.
07:06But I do actually look at you in the eyes
07:08with your boyfriend's arm around you and I haven't heard you speak.
07:10Did you ever tell him he was? No.
07:12Are you sure about that? Yeah.
07:13You're saying this is all made up.
07:15Why would he make this up if he's not with you and he's with somebody else?
07:17That's what I don't get. I don't know.
07:19If I knew that, I wouldn't be here. I'm on her Facebook.
07:21I'm Big Blup from her Facebook.
07:23After she sent me a message saying, ha, try again.
07:25I'll tell you what we'll do. We're going to go on stage.
07:27You're not going to sit here with your arm. You're going to have to come out here and face this.
07:29We're told, he was told by you
07:31that he was the father. Suddenly you get with Matt.
07:33This is what I'm dealing with here. And suddenly it's Matt's.
07:35I don't know what the truth is, but you've got to come out and do this.
07:37We're going on stage, back after the break.
07:39Come with me now. Shut your mouth.
07:41I'm smothering you.
07:43At the end of the day, if I am the dad, yeah, all I want is access.
07:45The DNA test results show that the biological father of Laura's baby is...
07:55Do you need to find out who is the father of the baby?
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08:25CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
08:33Where is Laura? Laura, get out here.
08:35Give Laura a round of applause.
08:37CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
08:45Laura, I'm not having a go.
08:47By the way, you're going to get it in a minute,
08:49because if you think you're going to sit here, right,
08:51having admitted you've been to prison for what you did,
08:53that's not great, because she's made comments about you
08:55and said that you were violent.
08:57Was he violent to you? Yep.
08:59No, I wasn't. What are you lying for?
09:01Did you go...? When we broke up,
09:03I didn't have 40 bruises on me. You didn't pull my hair.
09:05You think I did that? Yeah. When you slapped me in the face,
09:07I pushed you away from me. Don't even try me.
09:09You're looking quite aggressive, young man.
09:11No, I'm not aggressive. It's the full fact is...
09:13But you are violent. You went to prison.
09:15Yeah, I went to prison. Well, then you would be violent.
09:17I hold my hands up and went to prison for a violent offence.
09:19So what? It happened.
09:21I didn't slap her. Then why are you taking...
09:23I don't care. I'm in a mood now, yeah.
09:25I'm showing you true colours, pal.
09:27No, no. If you've ever been violent,
09:29I'm asking you the question.
09:31Yeah, I was violent back in the day.
09:33I was never violent to her.
09:35So why are you saying that if he says he was violent to her?
09:37I was never violent to her.
09:39Not while I was with her.
09:41Not while I was with her. I've been with my new missus.
09:43All right.
09:45He was violent, then.
09:47Two questions.
09:49Why didn't you go to the police
09:51and why wasn't he put in prison for it?
09:53APPLAUSE
09:55Steve, Steve, let it, let it.
09:57You see, the problem that I have with this show
09:59is very simple and very basic.
10:01I don't know when I stand here
10:03whether he's telling the truth or you're telling the truth.
10:05I can go on gut instinct. But here's the thing.
10:07Why did you, if this guy was violent
10:09and I have no reason to disbelieve you or him,
10:11why didn't you go to the police?
10:13Because after I left, I didn't think I'd have to ever speak or see him again.
10:15Let her speak, let her speak.
10:17I treated him as disgusting, manipulative, violent and a serial cheat.
10:19I was glad to get rid of him.
10:21He said that even after you got with Matt,
10:23that the two of you...
10:25Come back to my house.
10:27On the kitchen floor,
10:29and in the bathroom.
10:31There's no need for loitering, Laura.
10:33Here's a question for you, right?
10:35If I accept why you split up, if I just...
10:37Wait a minute, OK?
10:39If he's manipulative and he's violent and he's a serial cheat,
10:41then you would be rid of him, OK?
10:43How long ago did you split up with her?
10:45Wow, they've been together two and a half years, yeah.
10:47Me and my missus have been together three years.
10:49Just give me an answer. Hang on.
10:51A year, two years?
10:53We split up May the 9th, 2014.
10:55Why is it now, right,
10:57that he's here saying
10:59I was told I was the father,
11:01then I was told I wasn't the father.
11:03Why now?
11:05Is this...
11:07Are you jealous that he's with...
11:09Is he not with an ex-mate of yours, Connie, isn't that right?
11:11Yeah.
11:13Is it not true, though,
11:15you were sleeping with Connie behind her back?
11:17No, we broke up on the 9th, yeah.
11:19I got with Connie on the 27th of May.
11:21I ended up going down to hers, yeah.
11:23Didn't you go... Wait a second, you've spoken up.
11:25Didn't you go round and find them together? Yeah.
11:27Talk to me, tell me.
11:29I went down there,
11:31and the next day, cos he'd been missing all night,
11:33I went down there, he was there,
11:35scratches all over his back,
11:37and as he said, oh, I fell into nettles.
11:39When you split up with him, which was the 9th of May,
11:41is that what you're saying?
11:43I'm not sure of the day, but he was around there.
11:45Didn't you get with Matt the next day?
11:47Yeah.
11:49Curious amongst us would go,
11:51well, you had Matt lined up, I'm not having a go at you,
11:53I'm trying to get something from you.
11:55Be quiet a minute.
11:57I'm trying to get something from you.
11:59Matt and he...
12:03...lined up Connie.
12:05Why are we doing this two years later?
12:07That's what I don't get. Is he the father to the baby?
12:09Matt's on the Jeremy Carter.
12:11Give him a round of applause.
12:17What, you think I'm scared of you?
12:19Sit down. Shut your mouth.
12:21Shut your mouth and listen to me for a minute.
12:23Shut up. Shut up.
12:25Shut up. Shut up.
12:27I'm here to talk to him, not you.
12:29Shut up.
12:31Shut up.
12:33I'm not interested.
12:35Shut up.
12:37Shut up.
12:39Who are you?
12:41I'm his girlfriend.
12:43He's called the Jeremy Carter.
12:45APPLAUSE
12:47Steve, Steve, wait.
12:49Talk to me.
12:51She got with you the day after they split up
12:53and you've been with her before, haven't you?
12:55Yeah.
12:57Behind his back? No.
12:59Had you had sex with her before they split up?
13:01No.
13:03How does that happen?
13:05How did you get together so soon after they split?
13:07Well, the only...
13:09Tell your bird to be quiet.
13:11Babe, shut up, please.
13:13What?
13:15We didn't get together in the sense of a relationship the day after.
13:17Laura came to my house
13:19because she had enough of him beating on her.
13:21You can say anything.
13:23You can say everything you remember about this relationship.
13:25I remember everything, mate.
13:27It's all because you're trying to impress your cronies on TV.
13:29How am I trying to impress my cronies?
13:31Shut your mouth.
13:33Don't smoke your weed.
13:35Don't smoke your weed.
13:37If you try to be here to talk about access,
13:39you're not doing very good, are you?
13:41No, no, because this is the problem.
13:43If you start threatening people, if people are going to see it,
13:45let him speak.
13:47OK, so let's say she smokes weed and he smokes weed.
13:49Look at me a minute. How old's the kid?
13:51One.
13:53Why has it taken you 12 months, if you're worried about them,
13:55to be here? Why didn't you come here a year ago?
13:57Because I was in jail.
13:59Hold on.
14:01Why couldn't you come here?
14:03Because you were in jail, because you're a criminal, aren't you?
14:05So you lose the moral high ground, don't you?
14:07It doesn't matter if it was a criminal.
14:09Did she ever tell him he was the baby?
14:11Father, that's my thing.
14:13Why are we doing this?
14:15We're here purely because
14:17he just wants attention.
14:19Yes, it is.
14:21Shut your face.
14:23Who is that? What's your girlfriend called?
14:25Connie's on the Jeremy Carr Show That Way.
14:32I want attention and you...
14:34You, you don't even know me.
14:36I want attention. Who called who to come on here?
14:38You're the one who made me...
14:40Hands were... parked, didn't you?
14:42Yes, yes, you did.
14:44You're a bare witness, you...
14:46Give up her child for him.
14:48You want to bring up my... son?
14:50I don't even bring...
14:52You didn't hit him.
14:54He sat on your stomach while you were pregnant.
14:56No, he never.
14:58He sat on my lap.
15:00And he was tickling me.
15:02On her belly.
15:04Get it right.
15:06Sit down a minute.
15:08You were her mate.
15:10I never... No, I wasn't.
15:12I was in care.
15:14You slept with him behind their back, yes or no?
15:16No.
15:18Yes, you did. You told us you did.
15:20Yes, I did, yeah.
15:22Yes, I did, no, I didn't. What's the truth?
15:24Yes, I did.
15:26So whilst they were together, I'm trying to get a timeline,
15:28once, yeah.
15:30Doesn't that mean you lose some of the moral high ground?
15:32No, not really.
15:34She's making out that he's not the dad.
15:36When she was telling him that it was...
15:38Have you ever been there?
15:40Yes, I have. I've seen it.
15:42Stop swearing. I don't care about Handsworth Park.
15:44I don't care about anything, right?
15:46I want to know if you've ever seen anything
15:48that she's written or heard her say to him,
15:50he's the father.
15:52Yeah, I have. You've got to answer that.
15:54Do you think he really is?
15:56Because, do you know what?
15:58She's a compulsive liar.
16:00Why do you have to put the F-word before everything?
16:02Because she's making me angry, making him feel small.
16:04Stop swearing. You were friends with her.
16:06No, I wasn't.
16:08Then you nicked her bloke, didn't you?
16:10But then you've got no ground to stand on
16:12because you've got to love a boy within 24 hours.
16:14Can I tell you something, please, Jeremy?
16:16Please.
16:18Look, I'm being honest with you now.
16:20She turned around to you and she said
16:22that she was going to a house, a girls' house party.
16:24Do you know about this?
16:26Twice, bro, twice, on the kitchen floor
16:28and in the bathroom.
16:30You think I'm lying, but then I message you
16:32on WhatsApp saying, yeah, she's a girl, and what?
16:34Exactly, because that's the sort of thing you do.
16:36No, no. Did you have sex with him
16:38on the kitchen floor? No.
16:40Stop lying. Stop lying, because there's a geez ad
16:42that will come on the show
16:44straight away and he would write to her
16:46and you know him, so don't even annoy him.
16:48If you did, it's fine, but we need the truth.
16:50You don't know him. Here's my question.
16:52Here's my question.
16:54Why would a bloke
16:56who apparently has moved on
16:58and is happy, why would he be here
17:00unless he believed that
17:02in some way he could be the father to your kid?
17:04Why would it not be
17:06that he's happy with Connie, love, right?
17:08You're happy with Matt, everybody gets on with their lives.
17:10Why is it now that he is on
17:12the Jeremy Carl show saying she told him I was the father?
17:14What's he going to get out of it?
17:16I wouldn't know. According to him, he's got
17:18several different kids dotted around with other women.
17:20What if he is the father of this child?
17:22He's not. How do you know?
17:24Because I know. Laura, why are you turning around
17:26and saying that he was, when then he wasn't?
17:28Then you had a miscarriage.
17:30Yeah, what was that? Hang on. You got pregnant again.
17:32Listen to what she's saying, fam. Because I'm not being funny, yeah?
17:34You don't know half the stuff.
17:36No, you don't know half the stuff.
17:38When Laura broke up with you, she came to my house
17:40and I had to sit there and count
17:4240 bruises on this girl. Hang on, 40 bruises?
17:4440 bruises? Do you want to say something?
17:46So if he's a woman beater, yeah, why haven't I been beaten?
17:48We know that he didn't do that to her.
17:50Are you absolutely sure? Laura found out.
17:52Are you absolutely sure?
17:54He went to find out a week after
17:56you broke up that she was pregnant with your kid.
17:58What am I supposed to do with that? At the end of the day,
18:00yeah, what happened in the past happened in the past,
18:02yeah. I'm trying to move forward in life.
18:04Hold on a second. Let me take it further.
18:06You seem very reasonable, very calm.
18:08This girl who's a friend who you're not sleeping with
18:10or that you end up sleeping with comes round to your place
18:12as a shelter to cry on a few hours
18:14after she spits up with her, in brackets,
18:16from her violent boyfriend.
18:18You spy 40 bruises on her body.
18:20How do you know she didn't do it? Excuse me!
18:22I'm speaking. Why didn't you go to the police?
18:24Exactly.
18:26Laura didn't want to. Why didn't you want to go to the police?
18:28Because it meant being in close quarters with him.
18:30That's what she was trying to get away from.
18:32Do you understand what I'm saying?
18:34I can't...
18:36Everybody's sticking to their story. Sometimes people crumble.
18:38You're saying, he was definitely told he was the father.
18:40You're saying, not only was I told I was the father
18:42and then mine was changed, she would come back to me.
18:44You're saying, look, I did the decent thing,
18:46I met her, I saw the bruises,
18:48I'm protecting my woman.
18:50You've said very little. Why is it that I...
18:52I don't think it would matter to your boyfriend,
18:54but you did have sex with him after you split, didn't you?
18:56No. Yes, she did.
18:58How many people in the audience think that they slept together
19:00after they split up? See, that's my problem.
19:02No, no, but it's not about that, but that's my problem
19:04because I can only go like these people can
19:06on what they're told, right?
19:08Why am I not buying what you're saying with that?
19:10I don't condone anything he might have done,
19:12has done or will do in the future, by the way.
19:14I watched it in the past. Good, make sure it is.
19:16Because if you don't keep calm and this is your kid,
19:18you've got zilch chance, haven't you?
19:20It's because she knows what buttons to press.
19:22Do you know what it is, though, Jeremy? She keeps playing him.
19:24One minute she's saying he is... Do you still love him?
19:26No. How sure are you that Matt's the father?
19:28100%. And you're 100%?
19:30Yeah. What about you? No, I'm not forced,
19:32even if I ain't. If I ain't, I ain't.
19:34If I am, I am. I just want access at the end of the day.
19:36If I am the dad, yeah, all I want is access.
19:38How sure are you that you're the father?
19:40No, I ain't forced.
19:42Well, that's not going to help. 50-50.
19:44You two maintain, this is my problem with this story,
19:46you understand these two maintain that they were told
19:48there was a chance, you're saying absolutely not,
19:50this is a bloke who, you're saying, just wants to cause trouble.
19:52Give me those DNA results.
19:54I hope it's not. I hope it's not as well.
19:56Got nothing better to do.
20:00You're probably right, you're probably wrong,
20:02but I don't understand why I'd be here.
20:06The DNA test results show that the biological father
20:08of Laura's baby is...
20:12Matt, safe.
20:14APPLAUSE
20:24Nice to have seen you. Brilliant.
20:28Connie's happy.
20:30I'm going to say something, actually,
20:32I know it's intimidating sometimes,
20:34and I appreciate, but we can only go with what we're given.
20:36You have a good near. I understand that.
20:38This man did not in any way respond,
20:40this man was calm and considerate and a good man,
20:42and I would only say this,
20:44we can't make sense of what we're told,
20:46we have to play it out.
20:48Go and bring up your child, and I appreciate you coming on the show.
20:50She was very welcome. Thank you very much indeed.
20:52APPLAUSE
20:56So people, come to all the truth right after this break.
20:58For that lot of you at home, lie, detect a result.
21:00I'm right back.
21:02You say he's a drinker. Yeah, he drinks,
21:04he smokes drugs.
21:06He would not steal from my mum or from my sister.
21:08You've got a criminal conviction in the past for theft.
21:10That will put you in the frame.
21:12We asked Billie, did you steal the money
21:14that went missing from Sharon's house?
21:16She said no. Why do you say no?
21:18It's time to prove.
21:20What's the worst thing he's ever done to you physically?
21:22Broke three of me ribs.
21:24What? Broke three of me ribs.
21:26Broken three of your ribs.
21:34APPLAUSE
21:40Welcome back.
21:42Mary is here to confront her daughter's best friend, Angie,
21:44whom she states is 100% a thief.
21:46She says she is certain it was Angie
21:48who stole over £600 she'd saved for a holiday,
21:50and today she says,
21:52I'm getting the answers.
21:54She says, I'm going to expose Angie,
21:56she's going to fail the test,
21:58then I want her to stay away from my family.
22:00I believe this woman is no good.
22:02Strong words. On the car show, that way.
22:04APPLAUSE
22:14You don't look very happy.
22:16Smile at me.
22:18Nervous.
22:20Welcome to the show. This is a hell of a story.
22:22Mary's 68. Now, just help me out with this.
22:24I'll prove my daughter's best mate stole my savings.
22:26Angie is, um,
22:28Claire,
22:30your daughter's best friend.
22:32Where's Claire? You're in the audience.
22:34Um, Billy
22:36is... Is Billy in the audience?
22:38You're Angie's son.
22:40This lady says it's either you
22:42or your mother.
22:44Yeah, right.
22:46Tell me. Give me some facts.
22:48You say I'm on the show to expose them.
22:50I took
22:52my savings round to Sharon's.
22:54Who's Sharon?
22:56My other daughter.
22:58She put it in a tea tin
23:00in a cupboard.
23:02And a few weeks ago,
23:04I didn't even know it had gone missing
23:06until Sharon's daughter
23:08wanted to borrow some money.
23:10More people. Right.
23:12It had gone missing?
23:14How much?
23:16£630.
23:18Sharon says I've been friends with Angie,
23:20the woman you're here to expose, for 33 years.
23:22She's more like a sister to me.
23:24I'm totally stuck in the middle.
23:26I need the money back to me mum.
23:28I hope after today my mum and Angie can resolve this situation.
23:30That's hardly likely, cos you say I don't trust Angie one bit.
23:32No, I don't.
23:34Why?
23:36Because she's a liar,
23:38and she's a gambler,
23:40and so is her son.
23:42You say he's a drinker?
23:44Yeah, he drinks,
23:46he smokes drugs,
23:48and... Is that true?
23:50Yes. Is that true? Smoke weed, yeah.
23:52So where do you get the money from? I work.
23:54He says he works.
23:56Not all the time, he's just started working.
23:58She's always buying scratch cards, she needs money.
24:00Yeah, yeah.
24:02She thinks you're trying to frame her mate.
24:04Talk to me, come on. No way.
24:06I'm not sure that she's been framed.
24:08What I am certain is when Angela comes out in a moment
24:10that she's not stolen this money.
24:12And how do you know that, Claire?
24:14Because I'm confident she hasn't, mum.
24:16She lives with me, she's my best friend.
24:18All I can say is, you've got more confidence in her
24:20than what I have.
24:22Well, she has nicked the money.
24:24Well, I think she has.
24:26Yeah, but thinking and knowing are two different things.
24:28Well, we'll see, we'll see.
24:30We'll see.
24:32In my daughter's eyes, Claire,
24:34Angie can do nothing wrong.
24:36That's a bit rich. Blood is supposed to be thicker than water.
24:38She thinks she should side with her.
24:40I've come because I trust Angela.
24:42I really don't believe for one second
24:44she would do this, especially to my mum.
24:46And Angela lives with me, and I could live...
24:48What about Billy?
24:50I trust Billy also. He would not steal from my mum.
24:52Or from my sister.
24:54But hold on a second, Bill. You've got convictions for theft, haven't you?
24:56Yes, sir.
24:58What do you mean, yes, sir?
25:00Well, I've not been round this house, have I?
25:02But you've stolen from people, so that puts you in the frame, right?
25:04Yeah, in the past. Years ago. Years and years ago.
25:06Talk to me. You're utterly convinced.
25:08Yeah, well, like I say,
25:10I've brought them both here today
25:12because they are,
25:14as far as I'm concerned, are the only people
25:16what could have took it.
25:18Let me ask you, I'm scared of one to ten.
25:20How sure are you that she's nicked this money?
25:22Erm, nine. Are you? Yeah.
25:24Angela's on the Jeremy Carr Show, that way.
25:34Angela, welcome to the show.
25:36Mary's face darkened as you walked out.
25:38I only found out through other people that Mary accused me.
25:40She won't say anything to my face. Say it to her face.
25:42She hasn't, at all. We'll see. We will see.
25:44We will. We will.
25:46Do you know what?
25:48It's shameful, it really is.
25:50But it's got to be...
25:52Money's gone missing from the house, but there's more than me
25:54that go to the house.
25:56Who else goes to Sharon's house, then?
25:58Sharon said it could be a number of people.
26:00Whoever's been in a house, it's not just you,
26:02it can be anybody.
26:04But only me is being blamed.
26:06Nobody else goes in Sharon's house, only you.
26:08And perhaps Billy, when you've been there...
26:10No, Billy doesn't go there.
26:12While you've been cleaning up for Sharon,
26:14maybe you said,
26:16Oh, I'm on my own, and then he's come.
26:18Or you both took the money out of the tin.
26:20Once in two months.
26:22No.
26:24I've been going to Sharon's for ten years.
26:26Her daughter, Claire, absolutely says you wouldn't do this.
26:28I wouldn't.
26:30Why can't you believe that?
26:32Because I don't.
26:34How many people in the audience think that Angie nicked the money?
26:36Put your hand in the air.
26:38It's interesting, isn't it?
26:40Start with Billy. I'm not being disrespectful, Bill,
26:42but you smoked drugs,
26:44you could have nicked the money to pay for your drugs,
26:46you've got a criminal conviction in the past for theft.
26:48That will put you in the frame.
26:50We asked Billy, did you steal the money that went missing from Sharon's house?
26:52He said no. Why did you say no?
26:54Billy was telling the truth, my darling.
26:56APPLAUSE
27:02Always in Theft Alarm Detector is somebody complicit.
27:04We asked him, do you know for sure
27:06who stole the money that went missing from Sharon's house?
27:08Billy said no. Maybe we learn on this show
27:10you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.
27:12He passed both questions 100%.
27:14APPLAUSE
27:18Are you going to say sorry, then?
27:20No.
27:22Are you going to say sorry? No.
27:24Why not?
27:26You called him a thief on national television, love.
27:28I don't care.
27:32I think it's Angela.
27:34We'll see.
27:36Did you steal the money that went missing from Sharon's house?
27:38She said no, Angie. Why did you say no?
27:40Because I was telling the truth.
27:42She was telling the truth, darling.
27:44APPLAUSE
27:50And we asked,
27:52do you know for sure who stole the money that went missing
27:54from Sharon's house?
27:56Angie said no.
27:58The lady you accused 100% was telling the truth,
28:00absolutely, on the show.
28:02APPLAUSE
28:06Your daughter was right.
28:08You just sit there and say nothing.
28:10Come on, love.
28:12I've got nothing to say.
28:14Well, I would say, at 68 years of age,
28:16you would have learned how to say sorry
28:18when you make a false accusation.
28:20APPLAUSE
28:24Tell me out, Claire.
28:26Tell me out. She won't even apologise.
28:28Not at all. Why should I?
28:30Why should you? Because you've gone on national television
28:32and called somebody a thief,
28:34and they've proven, as has their son,
28:36whatever the past, they haven't done it, love.
28:38You can't accuse people like that. Say sorry.
28:40All right. Then I'm sorry.
28:42LAUGHTER
28:44Yeah, somebody in the audience got it right.
28:46Mean it. I'm not saying it's not horrible
28:48that your money went missing,
28:50but you have to be very sure before you point the finger,
28:52and if you point the finger,
28:54you have to be absolutely sure that you apologise
28:56if you're wrong. What does that mean to you?
28:58I knew the minute... I knew I'd not done it anyway.
29:00I knew the minute she walked out she hadn't stolen that money.
29:02Did you not? No, I didn't.
29:04Didn't misplace the money, did you? No.
29:06That's why I phoned the show, cos I knew I hadn't
29:08and I didn't want to be called a thief.
29:10No, I didn't misplace the money at all.
29:14But you look... Looking at you,
29:16you look like a sort of bitter person.
29:18The reality is that you don't want to accept the truth.
29:20The truth is she didn't nick the money.
29:22Yeah, I understand that.
29:24But there was no graciousness in you saying sorry.
29:26Yeah, there was. Was there?
29:28I am sorry.
29:30LAUGHTER
29:34Um, thank you for coming.
29:36Thank you for doing the lie detector.
29:38Claire, you were right.
29:40Can't have been easy backing your mate against your mum,
29:42but you were spot on, Billy, as well.
29:44Fair play. Thanks for coming on the show. Well done.
29:46Go that way, go that way.
29:48CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
29:52My next guest today, Karen,
29:54says she can no longer cope with constant accusations
29:56of cheating from her partner, Carlos.
29:58Now, we had originally brought Karen and Carlos here
30:00for a double lie detector,
30:02but last night our source checks revealed
30:04that there has indeed been violence in the relationship.
30:06And I've told you before and I'll tell you again,
30:08if that is the case, we will never ever do
30:10a lie detector test on The Jeremy Kyle Show.
30:12They say, I want to talk about our issues, we want help.
30:14They'll only get that if they're honest with me.
30:16Karen's next on The Kyle Show. Give her a round of applause.
30:18APPLAUSE
30:24All right? OK, fine, thank you.
30:26And I'll start with what I just said,
30:28because that's the way it is.
30:30You're not talking to the teams now and all the nice people,
30:32you're talking to me. If I'm going to help you
30:34and this man at all, I want the truth.
30:36Whether I'm not trying to upset you,
30:38I'm not trying to make you say anything you don't want to say,
30:40but it was only last night
30:42that certain things came out.
30:44You've been with Carlos for three...
30:46And a half years.
30:48You say that the constant cheating accusations
30:50have had a terrible effect on you health-wise.
30:52Yeah, definitely.
30:54I've lost weight, stressed out,
30:56I'm always down, depressed,
30:58crying a lot.
31:00Has there been violence in the relationship?
31:02At the beginning of the relationship, yeah.
31:04Tell me what happened.
31:06Well, we had an argument
31:08and it got a little bit rated.
31:10What was the argument about?
31:12Probably him accusing me of something,
31:14probably that was at the beginning of the relationship as well.
31:16Why do you keep saying at the beginning?
31:18Because it was at the beginning.
31:20Yeah, but then if you start in a relationship
31:22and a man attacks you, why would you stay with him?
31:24Because I love him.
31:26Really? What did he do to you that night?
31:28He just slapped me, pushed me.
31:30Crossed face?
31:32Yeah.
31:34And pushed you over?
31:36Yeah.
31:38Why were the police called?
31:40To get him out.
31:42How many times have the police been called?
31:44A few times.
31:46So it isn't just that once.
31:48What's the worst thing he's ever done to you physically?
31:50He broke three of your ribs.
31:52So it wasn't just once, was it?
31:54No, it's been a couple of times.
31:56Well, it's more than once, isn't it?
31:58He broke three of your ribs.
32:00Did you go to hospital?
32:02I did, yeah.
32:04Did they ask how it happened?
32:06Not really, no.
32:08But you lied to a lot of people?
32:10Yeah.
32:12Because you're in love with the bloke
32:14and you hope and pray that it'll get better.
32:16What else has he done to you?
32:18Why are you grinning?
32:20I'm not, that's just nerves.
32:22What does he call you?
32:24He calls me prostitute.
32:26I don't feel I want to be intimate with him?
32:28No, not at all.
32:30Because he thinks we don't have sex too often now
32:32because of the things that he puts me through.
32:34I don't feel like getting into bed with him.
32:36I'm not surprised.
32:38I wouldn't want to be in the same house as a bloke like that.
32:40This is what I got really this morning
32:42when I read it.
32:44I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:46When you get a phone call, you say you feel like
32:48or you know he's watching you.
32:50What do you mean by that?
32:52Well, if we have an argument, I just want to leave the house
32:54or take the dog for a walk.
32:56And then I can feel his eyes on me somewhere
32:58so he follows me, he follows me about
33:00and then ten minutes later he's behind me.
33:02I can't go anywhere, I can't do anything.
33:04Can't breathe?
33:06No, I can't, I'm suffocated.
33:08I told my team that you kicked him out of the house last week.
33:10It was the most peaceful, quiet...
33:12It was, it was great.
33:14I'm not scared of leaving him. Why do you love him?
33:16I'm not scared of leaving him.
33:18You must be. Let's just look at the facts.
33:20You'd rather be on your own, you feel complete relief
33:22in every which way when he went.
33:24He's broken three of your ribs and smashed you in the face
33:26and you feel suffocated.
33:28What in any of that is an attractive feature?
33:30Because I know he can change.
33:32How long is it going to be?
33:34How many broken ribs is it going to be?
33:36There's going to be no violence in the relationship since the beginning.
33:38Rubbish!
33:40So he broke the ribs, what, early doors?
33:42Yeah.
33:44But only last week you kicked him out and said it was nice
33:46to have some peace and quiet and feel suffocated.
33:48Yeah, that was just an argument.
33:50People, please don't take this the wrong way.
33:52People like you stay in relationships like this
33:54because they are too scared of the alternative
33:56and they live and hope and pray that it'll get better,
33:58that I'll be the one that changes him
34:00and because they're concerned that the rest of the world
34:02will say, I told you so.
34:04That's the only reason you're with this whatever.
34:06This is why I wanted the lie detector.
34:08I can't do a lie detector when a bloke thinks it's all right
34:10because the police have been called on numerous occasions
34:12to your house.
34:14I almost, in situations like that, think,
34:16I don't know what to say.
34:18I can tell you the facts.
34:20You'll go and do what you want to do.
34:22Do you know how many women I've spoken to in the past like you?
34:24Do you wonder where some of them end up?
34:26Dead?
34:28Probably, yeah.
34:30But you say probably like it doesn't matter.
34:32It does matter, yeah.
34:34What about being worth more than that?
34:36What about feeling like you're worth more than that?
34:38How old is Carlos?
34:40He's 39.
34:42Oh, he's younger than you, yeah?
34:44Yeah.
34:46Is this it? Is this as good as it gets in your life?
34:48Because in the end, and I'm being honest,
34:50he doesn't trust you.
34:52Do you know why he doesn't trust you?
34:54Why?
34:56Do you want me to tell you the truth
34:58or send him straight through this door like a madman?
35:00People like him who think it's all right to break a woman's ribs,
35:02who constantly nag them, who constantly follow them,
35:04who constantly suffocate them,
35:06who constantly get in their way.
35:08So why would you want to...
35:10We'll add that to that.
35:12We're now at six.
35:14Violent, abusive, probably a cheat,
35:16and you're grinning.
35:18You deserve more.
35:20But here's the thing I know about you.
35:22He could smash your skull tomorrow.
35:24He could cheat with your best friend
35:26and you'd still go, Carlos, I love you.
35:28So for me, I waste my time, don't I?
35:30Because he's going to come out here.
35:32I'm going to say to him, you're a thug.
35:34And that will be the day you realise.
35:36Carlos is on the Jeremy Kyle show.
35:46So you broke her ribs, yeah?
35:50I'm going to say, yeah,
35:52the start of the relationship.
35:54You think that's normal, yeah?
35:56I'm not saying it's normal.
35:58I tried to put it out of the house
36:00and that was an accident.
36:02You were on the show last week
36:04and it was absolutely fantastic to have peace and quiet.
36:06You follow her.
36:08She feels like she's suffocating, Carlos.
36:14What gives you the right to break a woman's ribs?
36:16It doesn't give me the right to do that.
36:18I know what I did was wrong.
36:20I don't mean to do that.
36:22Police have been called on numerous occasions.
36:24It's all down to...
36:26What?
36:28It's all down to the drink as well.
36:30You break a woman's ribs and drink with men
36:32and that's the start of a relationship.
36:34You don't say that to them.
36:36So you only see your side.
36:38I know what I did was wrong.
36:40I'm not an angel.
36:42It doesn't give you the right.
36:44You wouldn't pass a lie detector,
36:46not in a million years.
36:48You'd fail.
36:50I wouldn't.
36:52You sure?
36:54I am positive.
36:56Why did you check up on her then?
36:58It was three years ago.
37:00It's nice now.
37:02I know he broke my ribs but it was three years ago.
37:04What do you want me to say?
37:06It's not getting any better now, is it?
37:08No.
37:10Because you're here!
37:12I don't know what people expect me to do.
37:14What do you want me to do?
37:16I need him to get help.
37:18You need help, love.
37:20I need help as well.
37:22Do you know the only help he needs?
37:24For you to run a thousand miles in the opposite direction
37:26That's good news.
37:28You won't.
37:34I'm not going to bang my head against a brick wall.
37:36You want to be with someone like Carlos, that's your choice.
37:38I'm not quite sure what help we can give you.
37:40You're an abusive relationship.
37:42Whether you like this or not.
37:44It wasn't an abusive relationship.
37:46You've done a good job on her, haven't you?
37:48I did a good job.
37:50She did a good job on me as well.
37:52It's not only me.
37:54Then why don't you separate if it's such a nightmare?
37:58Because I do love her.
38:00That's why I'm with her.
38:02I've been with her for three years and a half.
38:04Because I don't love her.
38:06Because I want to have a woman with me.
38:08I could go out there and get another woman.
38:10Not when this goes out, you won't.
38:14That's why I'm with her.
38:16I'm not with her to...
38:18So you came in for help, yeah?
38:20Everything's going to be fine.
38:22You're drinking because you drink, yeah?
38:24I don't drink.
38:26You just said you got drunk.
38:28What sort of help do you want?
38:30A lie detector.
38:32That's what I want.
38:34How is a lie detector going to improve your relationship?
38:36Because then you won't have the trust, won't you?
38:38You're not having one.
38:40There's violence.
38:42There has been violence.
38:44The police have been called on numerous occasions.
38:46You don't even need help.
38:48Because you two will stay together
38:50until they mess up and it finishes.
38:52You're going to tell me people cannot change.
38:54Of course they can change.
38:56You're going to tell me I'm going to be a woman beater
38:58because of the start of my relationship.
39:00I'm not worried about the woman beating.
39:02I've talked about that.
39:04It was only once.
39:06Once is too much.
39:08Breaking a woman's ribs.
39:12Following her when you leave the house.
39:14Checking up on her.
39:16Feeling like you're suffocating and she can't go anywhere.
39:18It's not healthy, is it?
39:20No.
39:22That's the point.
39:24Forget what happened at the beginning.
39:26That's why we can't do the right thing.
39:28Why don't you stop drinking?
39:30Why don't you go out on the street?
39:32You said you don't drink.
39:34I know you don't drink.
39:36So you don't drink?
39:38So we don't drink a bottle of wine with it?
39:40I used to drink at the time.
39:42Things used to start like that.
39:44This is an excuse.
39:46Why do you stay with him?
39:48It's not an excuse.
39:50I know what I did was wrong.
39:52It was at that time.
39:54Why don't you go outside?
39:56Why do you keep saying you know what I'm saying?
39:58Your sister goes there and you disappear.
40:00I'm going to believe you're out there with another man.
40:02You're going to think it's me.
40:04I'm on the house.
40:06I'm doing what I need to do.
40:08You don't tell these things.
40:10You tell me I broke two ribs to you.
40:12No, three.
40:14I tried to put it out of the house.
40:16You fell on the floor.
40:18It's got the sink there.
40:20You go like this and you broke it.
40:22I don't do it on purpose.
40:24I'm an animal.
40:28I'm an animal.
40:30If it was me...
40:32You understand what I'm saying?
40:34I do understand.
40:36Shut up.
40:38You are not happy which is why you're here.
40:40You will not take our advice.
40:42I'm not supposed to help you.
40:44I can't help you until you realise what this relationship is.
40:46You can forget the violent thing from before.
40:48It doesn't work.
40:50Does it?
40:52How do you know it doesn't work?
40:54Because you wouldn't be on the Jeremy Cole show.
40:56You know what I'm saying?
40:58I don't know what you want me to say.
41:00My advice would always be
41:02when there has been violence,
41:04when there's this much going on,
41:06you should separate and get help.
41:08You're not going to do that.
41:10Well, it doesn't look like it, does it?
41:12LAUGHTER
41:14Good luck in your relationship.
41:16Thank you for coming.
41:18That was a waste of time, man.
41:20APPLAUSE
41:24You're a stalker.
41:26Let's be your boyfriend.
41:28He is a liar.
41:32Sit down there.
41:34You're a stalker, so get lost, yeah?
41:36And leave my daughter alone.
41:38You're a liar.
41:42CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
41:48Thank you very much indeed. Welcome back.
41:50My next guest today, Ben, is here to confront
41:52his boyfriend, Josh's online stalker.
41:54Did you hear what I say?
41:56Ben claims ever since he made his relationship
41:58with Josh official on Facebook,
42:00he's been harassed by Josh's online stalker, Tony.
42:02Ben says that Tony is clearly jealous
42:04and wants to out her as a liar
42:06and is proving they've never even met up,
42:08let alone had a relationship.
42:10He says, basically, she's a fantasist.
42:12Ben's on the Jeremy Carr Show. That way.
42:14CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
42:22Just a quick little story. Are you all right?
42:24Yeah, I'm all right.
42:26Look at that shirt.
42:28Listen, I'm a bit confused.
42:30You've been with Josh for a month?
42:32Yeah.
42:34Tony is too upset and too nervous to come on this show.
42:36I know, yeah.
42:38He's upstairs in the dressing room.
42:40Who did she know, you or Josh?
42:42Josh.
42:44You say she's been causing problems for him for almost two years.
42:46She's obsessed.
42:48Very obsessed, yeah.
42:50How? Why?
42:52She won't leave him alone, literally.
42:54Every time he gets in a relationship,
42:56it's like, hello, I'm back.
42:58And also, it's also the fact that she's accused him
43:00of being the father of her child.
43:02So, Josh and you are in a relationship.
43:04Yeah.
43:06A woman from nowhere, cyberspace...
43:08Yeah.
43:10..is not only saying, I was with him, I love him,
43:12and trying to destroy his relationship with you,
43:14she's claiming he's the father of the baby.
43:16Yeah.
43:18What does he say? He's never met her.
43:20Yeah, exactly.
43:22He says he's never met her.
43:24Who's saying that?
43:26All right.
43:28Tony can't get over the fact that Josh is gay
43:30and he wants to leave us alone.
43:32I know Josh will prove he's telling the truth.
43:34Then I want her and her mother out of our lives.
43:36Does that sum it up?
43:38Yeah, pretty much.
43:40Let's see, there's some messages.
43:42It's your kid.
43:44Tell me how.
43:46That's quite good from a gay man, isn't it?
43:48Remember the day he went to the public and you...
43:50Ooh, something me in October.
43:52Why would I, an ugly mug like you,
43:54got better things to do with my time?
43:56Must have dreamt it. No, you did, really.
43:58The mother says,
44:00you two need to respect her daughter.
44:02She absolutely does, but more.
44:04Hey, I miss you so, so much.
44:06I have loved you till the day I die.
44:08So she is in love with him.
44:10Yeah, obviously, yeah, but...
44:12He's not in love with her.
44:14Get the mother out.
44:16Sue's on the Jeremy Carl Show that way.
44:18APPLAUSE
44:24You're a stalker.
44:26Get your facts right.
44:28She's the one that messaged me, like.
44:30No, she's not.
44:32Unless we're your boyfriend, he is a liar.
44:34You're worse in person.
44:36You've never met me before.
44:38And you're looking about outside now, aren't you?
44:40Neither is Josh, he hasn't even met your daughter.
44:42Pardon?
44:46Let's get Josh, the boyfriend,
44:48who apparently isn't with her.
44:50Anyway, get him on, he's on, mate.
44:52APPLAUSE
44:56You're a liar, so sit down there and shut up.
44:58No, you didn't make me.
45:00Sit down there and shut up.
45:02You're a stalker, so get lost, yeah?
45:04And leave my daughter alone.
45:06I'm sorry, I know I obviously come from...
45:08Oh, I've just seen Dan's bottom.
45:10I know I come from a different land.
45:12How are you? I'm fine, thank you.
45:14Brilliant. You know this girl?
45:16Yeah. You're saying you've never met her?
45:18No. Never?
45:20Not one bit, no. Your daughter's saying
45:22not only has he met her, they've been together
45:24No, he's not.
45:26But she said that to him.
45:28Well, you're not.
45:30Hang on, even you...
45:32We're off to a good start, aren't we, Jeremy?
45:34It's not going very well, is it?
45:36Hang on. I mean it.
45:38Don't say that to him.
45:40You can stop saying things like that, you know.
45:42Even you...
45:44Oh, are you going homophobic?
45:46No, I'm not.
45:48Were you going to finish your sentence?
45:50Why don't you shut your mouth, yeah?
45:52You just do what you like.
45:56I'm a little bit confused.
45:58It's like a wrestling match. Come with me.
46:00Come on. Come on. Come on.
46:02I don't understand what you're saying.
46:04I don't understand what you're saying.
46:06He's a liar.
46:08Who's a liar? Him.
46:10You are saying that Josh met up with your daughter.
46:12You told my team they met up,
46:14they kissed...
46:16I never said that.
46:18Well, what have you said then?
46:20She threatened Josh when he tried to end things with her as well,
46:22over the phone,
46:24saying he was going to get people to start on him
46:26if he ever went to Northampton.
46:28No, I did not.
46:30He just threatened him on stage, love.
46:32He just said, wait till you get out.
46:34Do you think your daughter met this guy,
46:36or do you think your daughter...
46:38She probably did.
46:40Do you think she's a fantasist?
46:42No.
46:44He is.
46:46He's a fantasist.
46:48There we go.
46:50But then why did she come on the show?
46:52Sort you out, obviously.
46:54Can we get the results, please?
46:56So you came to do a lie detector
46:58to prove that not only... Stand there.
47:00You came to do a lie detector to prove that not only...
47:02Well, you've never met this woman.
47:04She's a fantasist.
47:06No, she's not.
47:08You say she is. You say she's not.
47:10You say she is. You say she's not. What do you say?
47:12I believe Josh 100%.
47:14What about you, Dan? Are you in on this?
47:16It's Tony. You said no. Why did you say no?
47:18He was telling the truth. He was telling the truth, darling.
47:20Your daughter made this up.
47:22Your daughter made this up.
47:24Now, listen, just from my point of view, genuinely,
47:26listen to me.
47:28You need to talk to your daughter. We'll work with you as well.
47:30Your daughter... There's a lot of people, by the way.
47:32He's still a liar. Well, he's not a liar.
47:34He was telling the truth, darling. He's just passed the lie detector.
47:36Listen, I don't understand.
47:38I'm going to lock him up. Blocker.
47:40Yeah. Block.
47:42Block.
47:44Just blocking.
47:46Get there.
47:48Listen, on a serious note,
47:50a lot of people
47:52through online stuff
47:54get obsessed with people.
47:56Concentrate on your daughter. It's not their fault.
47:58We'll work with you. Give her a round of applause.
48:00Thank you, guys. Give them a round of applause.
48:02Jeez, what a morning. I'm out of time.
48:04If you want to be on this show, you need my office and my website.
48:06The details are on screen. To the guest, to the audience
48:08and to you at home, thanks for watching. See you soon.
48:10Bye!
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