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The Jeremy Kyle Show (6 April 2018)
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00:10On today's show...
00:12Yesterday failed every single lie detector question.
00:18I couldn't sleep last night. I was crying my eyes out. I was with my little boy, constantly just keep crying, right?
00:23Yeah, he did.
00:24He was out drinking at the bar and then this morning he doesn't have a clue where he's going in Manchester and he's out by himself training.
00:30You told my team that one of the reasons that you failed the test yesterday was there was a language barrier in the test, yeah?
00:37He's redone the test. He's told you everything. If he passes, do we have a chance?
00:42Yeah, but he's not moving back in with me or anything like that.
00:46Since the start of your relationship with Georgia, apart from what you've now admitted to, have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
00:54Chris said no, didn't you?
00:55Yes.
01:00Desperate to know if this guy is your biological father.
01:02Yep.
01:03Never met him?
01:04No.
01:06In 2015, this guy who apparently doesn't care, finds you.
01:12What does this envelope mean to you, sweetheart?
01:14The world.
01:16The DNA test results show that he is.
01:19APPLAUSE
01:40Hello, my friends. Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:42So yesterday was incredibly interesting.
01:45Take a look at this.
01:49How long were you apart from him for?
01:51Just over 11 weeks.
01:53What happened in those 11 weeks?
01:55Oh, well, I just... I slept her out.
01:57I slept about with people because I wanted to be loved. I felt betrayed.
02:00How many people did you sleep with?
02:02Seven.
02:03And he just sent me a picture of him and this girl.
02:05She was obviously Romanian.
02:07She sort of had her top pulled up kind of thing.
02:09He had her arm round her. They were in a bedroom.
02:11The bed was all scruffed up in the back.
02:13And then he texted me saying, oh, I was about the messy bed.
02:17We asked Georgia, since the start of your relationship with Chris,
02:19apart from what you've admitted to,
02:20have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
02:22She said no, cos your girlfriend was telling the truth, mate.
02:30Since the start of your relationship with Chris,
02:32apart from what you've admitted to,
02:33have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
02:35She said no.
02:36She was telling the truth on every single question.
02:39He admitted...
02:41..to women on the bum.
02:43Another, he grinded on a bed.
02:45And then he touched and kissed her breast.
02:47However, they remained closed.
02:48You didn't tell me this.
02:49So how can you kiss a breast with her clothes on?
02:51Since the start of your relationship with Georgia,
02:53apart from what you've admitted to,
02:54have you passionately kissed anyone else?
02:56Chris said no. What do you say, no?
02:57Cos I'm telling the truth.
02:58Your boyfriend's a liar.
03:02Since the start of your relationship with Georgia,
03:03apart from what you've just admitted to,
03:04have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
03:06He said no. This test says he lied on that.
03:08In fact, I don't know how to judge you.
03:09He lied on every single question.
03:11Something else happened.
03:12So why don't you,
03:13considering you've got a kid with this nice lady,
03:15why don't you grow a pair, right, and tell her the truth?
03:21Well, this morning, believe it or not, Chris is back.
03:23Yesterday, he failed every single lie detector question.
03:27Him and Georgia spent the night in separate hotels,
03:29but he's returned, he says,
03:31to make one last attempt to win her back.
03:33He says,
03:34yesterday, I failed because I didn't really understand
03:36the whole concept, but today, I'll pass.
03:40Strong words.
03:41We'll see you back on the Jeremy Carl Show that way.
03:51We saw everything yesterday.
03:53I said to you there at the end, grow a pair and be honest.
03:56You decided as a result, and I want Georgia to listen to this,
03:59to write down what can only be described as a confession.
04:01Does she know about this?
04:02Of course she does, yeah.
04:03She does? Yes.
04:04I'd paraphrase that, OK? I've got it all ready.
04:07Let's just, um...
04:09Let's do this slowly.
04:10I started seeing Blank after we talked for a few weeks.
04:13This is the other woman.
04:15That's right, yeah.
04:16I was round her friends and we ended up walking home.
04:19We started making out on a bench.
04:21I touched her boobs.
04:24A few days later, I saw Blank again.
04:27Blank came back to mine.
04:29We started making out in bed, an improvement on the bench.
04:32She took her bra off.
04:33I tried to get her to have sex with me.
04:35I had my top off.
04:37You touched her down below, but she still had her jeans on.
04:41It didn't end like that, sort of.
04:43Nothing more happened.
04:44You told Georgia all of that, did you?
04:46That's right, yeah.
04:47How did that go down last night?
04:48Well, it didn't work out too well, obviously,
04:50because I didn't ask her,
04:51what did that guy do to you, what did he do to your life,
04:53how did he kiss you, how did he touch you, anything like that.
04:55I do, and I'm going to give you credit, and I'm going to say this.
04:58Yesterday, she was very angry.
05:00She did sleep with seven men...
05:02That's right.
05:04..on what she and you perceived to be a break.
05:06That's right.
05:07My question this morning would be,
05:09why weren't you more honest about...
05:11Here's me being honest, man-to-man.
05:13She was on the back foot, mate.
05:15She'd slept with seven men.
05:17Why didn't you tell her the whole damn thing,
05:19cleared up, get on with your lives, you've got a kid?
05:21Why did you lie?
05:22That's what I don't get.
05:24Do you know what? I could have done.
05:26I could have said to her,
05:27look, Georgia, this is what happened, exactly, in details,
05:29but I wouldn't think that,
05:30you want to know everything that went on.
05:32Are you going to pass?
05:33Of course I am.
05:34Georgia's back on the Jeremy Carr Show, that way.
05:36CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
05:45Georgia, welcome back.
05:47I made that point earlier, not because I'm having a go at you,
05:50but the point was relevant.
05:51You did sleep with seven men.
05:53Yeah, I did, and I held my hands up.
05:55For you yesterday, it was all about being honest.
05:58It wasn't about...
05:59If he had been honest from the first moment,
06:02and he had said,
06:03when I was with blank, we grinded, blank, and then we did more,
06:07how would you have felt?
06:08Would you have forgiven him, cos you'd slept with seven people?
06:11He hasn't told me any of this, and this is what hurts the most.
06:14Last night, I slept at six o'clock in the morning,
06:16AM, with my little boy.
06:17I was crying my eyes out.
06:18I dropped my bags on the floor
06:20and was shaking to the hotel woman of what he's put me through.
06:23He told everyone on the show yesterday
06:25that he told me all this detail,
06:26and the thing that hurt the most
06:27is that I never had a clue what's gone on.
06:29How do you feel about the detail?
06:30We've done the detail, you heard me saying that.
06:32Yeah, yeah, I was at the... Yeah, I heard it all.
06:34You knew all about that.
06:35No, this was the first I've actually had proper in detail.
06:37But you know now? Yeah.
06:38I tried to get her to have sex with me, I had my top off.
06:41And then he told me that apparently I was the love of his life
06:44and saying that he would never beg anyone for sex and everything.
06:47It does finish with,
06:48she was on her period, so I went home.
06:50And do you know something?
06:51He calls me fat and ugly after I've had his kid.
06:53I've had to have a tattoo covered up on my stretch marks
06:56right after having his kid.
06:57This girl lives not far from me.
06:59I've walked past him with my little boy as a family, walking past her.
07:02These two are looking at each other and he's saying,
07:04what's that little fat scruffy dog looking at?
07:06They're probably set for each other.
07:08He's made me feel so insecure about myself,
07:10but yet he's complimenting anything that walks.
07:12How about when I go to work and I see all these blokes that you slept with?
07:14How does that make me feel?
07:15You haven't slept with any, Chris. Don't make that up.
07:17When I was working in that shop, that bloke works there himself.
07:19OK. Yeah, I have to take all this on myself.
07:21But then I have to balance it.
07:22If you can't forgive, then you shouldn't have moved back and said you could forgive.
07:26That's why me and her have been on holiday last week.
07:28I don't think you'll not like this.
07:30I don't think there's many men here who can forgive their missus
07:32for sleeping with seven blokes.
07:34That's why we've been on holiday last week and we came back off holiday,
07:36just me and her.
07:37Because I've forgiven her for everything, what she's done.
07:39And do you know what? It's just...
07:41Even on holiday, you didn't want to...
07:43Can I also... I have to put this out there,
07:45cos it's the worst excuse I've ever heard and it's an insult.
07:47Yes.
07:48You told my team that one of the reasons that you failed the test yesterday
07:50was that there was a language barrier in the test, yeah?
07:52Well, he wasn't the best at communication, I must admit to that.
07:55Let me tell you something, you might be from Romania,
07:57but you speak better English than about 50% of the people on the Jeremy Carr social.
08:01So that's absolutely... There we go, that's done.
08:03Now, he's redone the test, he's told you everything,
08:07if he passes, do we have a chance?
08:10Yeah, but he's not moving back in with me or anything like that.
08:13What's the point of this, then?
08:14What am I here for? What, to prove nothing?
08:16No, no, do you know something?
08:18I've been told by some other woman from the studio that apparently last night he's...
08:21Right, I couldn't sleep last night, I was crying my eyes out,
08:24I was with my little boy constantly just keep crying, right?
08:26Yeah, he do.
08:27He sat there turning on and off his phone, he was out drinking at the bar,
08:31and then this morning he doesn't have a clue where he's going in Manchester
08:34and he's out buying himself trainers.
08:36I bought Leo a pair of trainers.
08:38Where was the invite for Leo to go with you?
08:40I rang you, I kept ringing you, I rang you four times.
08:42Of course you did, of course you did, I've got no missed calls from you,
08:44so don't you dare lie to me.
08:45Right, can we get the phone into the show and I'll prove it to her, please?
08:47The what?
08:48My phone, just prove it to her that I've rang her, because, do you know what?
08:51I'm just glad you bought the trainers and didn't steal them,
08:54I'm going to do the lie detector results.
09:00Last night, did you tell Jeremy what you said?
09:02Last night I said to him, look, before we go on that show,
09:04please don't stab me in the eye any more and make me look like an idiot coming on here.
09:07I'd rather him just tell me last night the truth, just tell me, look,
09:10is there anything else so I know where I stand?
09:12He took them out and said to me, well, I didn't sleep with anyone, I'm only human.
09:17Hang on, you two...
09:18Are you now, after this break, going to pass the lie detector?
09:21Yes, yes.
09:22Can you, if he does, forgive him for what happened?
09:25Because eventually we got the truth out.
09:28I can forgive him, but it's not the fact that he's lied,
09:30if he can lie about that, what else is he going to lie about again?
09:33So you can't forgive him?
09:34Well, I can, but it's just going to take a little bit of time,
09:36I'm not going to hold his hand and run off here like happy families, am I?
09:39Well, what?
09:40Right, after the break, you've waited two days, the ultimate truth,
09:43we're back, don't go anywhere.
09:45Give me those.
09:46He says there was a language barrier, he didn't want to go into details,
09:50all he said was he ground that woman on the bed,
09:52there was a lot more, there was touching and whatever.
09:57The last time I saw him was when I was two.
09:59Potentially, after 17 years.
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10:36CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
10:43Thank you very much indeed, welcome back to The Break.
10:45Day two of Chris and Georgia, you know the whole story, give me those.
10:48He says there was a language barrier,
10:50he didn't want to go into details,
10:52all he said was he ground that woman on the bed,
10:54there was a lot more, there was touching and whatever.
10:57You got upset yesterday, I have to say,
10:59that you, Georgia, on the break slept with seven men,
11:02we've done all of that.
11:03You've said, if that is the truth now, we are good,
11:07it will be difficult, but we'll work with it.
11:10I read the admissions, cos they cover what you know,
11:13and we have to be honest about that before a test.
11:15Following yesterday's test and the admission he made prior to it,
11:18Chris further admitted to rubbing...
11:21Oh, God.
11:23Here we go.
11:24..the private parts of the girl he kissed...
11:26You didn't say that, though, just a minute ago.
11:28..before the split in 2016.
11:29We're splitting all down here, Georgia?
11:31He admitted to touching some of the girl he kissed
11:33at the club in Romania on his birthday.
11:35Yeah.
11:36Trying to have sex with the woman in question.
11:38He claimed to have admitted to touching her vagina.
11:42You didn't say that, though, to me.
11:44That's all in there, and then he went home, cos he's chivalrous.
11:48It's not a look on your face.
11:50It's embarrassing, isn't it?
11:52This is why I didn't want to tell you all this.
11:54All right, so you didn't want to hear that,
11:56but he's had to come out with this to do the test.
11:58So, we asked him,
11:59since the start of your relationship with Georgia,
12:01apart from what you've now admitted to,
12:03have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
12:06Chris said no, didn't you?
12:08Yes.
12:09This says you were lying again.
12:13Since the start of your relationship with Georgia,
12:15apart from what you've admitted to,
12:17have you had further sexual contact with the woman in question?
12:20He said no.
12:21He failed every single question.
12:25In support of the woman in question.
12:28Nobody's talking to anybody?
12:29No, no, I'm done, I'm done.
12:39I mean, I can't do any more lie detectors.
12:42We've been here for days.
12:44I feel like you've taken over the whole show, you two.
12:48Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
12:50Please, please, please.
12:52Georgia, Georgia, come here.
12:54Georgia.
12:55Jeremy, do you understand what I went through last night?
12:57I wrote everything down, Georgia.
12:58I wrote everything down.
12:59I know that happened.
13:00And cried, and cried.
13:01I dropped all my bags on the floor.
13:02I broke down on the floor.
13:03I was crying on anybody that would just give me a hug
13:06and tell me everything was all right.
13:07I've come back again today.
13:08I've been stabbed in the eye even more.
13:10And you, look at you.
13:11You're just out there with some sort of smug look.
13:13You're smiling, you're smiling, Georgia.
13:14This is more embarrassing than anything in the world.
13:16Look, I wrote everything down.
13:17Did you not understand him?
13:18Did you not understand him again?
13:19Yes, I did.
13:20I wrote everything down.
13:21You wrote everything down and we wrote it down
13:23and we did it at the test and you still failed.
13:25So why did you fail?
13:26I don't know.
13:27Honestly, I don't know.
13:28Because you're dodgy, aren't you?
13:29No, I'm not dodgy at all.
13:30He's lied about so many things to me today.
13:31Do you know what the truth is?
13:32Last night the phone was off, it was on, it was off.
13:33Who was you drinking with last night?
13:35I don't know.
13:36You were drinking with him again as well, wasn't you?
13:37Don't start saying things like that now.
13:38Yeah, yeah.
13:39We are done.
13:40I want you out of my house.
13:41And you, mate.
13:42Can I just tell you one more thing?
13:43Do you know what?
13:44I feel so bad about myself.
13:45I hate myself.
13:46I feel so ugly because of him.
13:47Don't lie.
13:48I'm lying.
13:49Don't lie.
13:50I'm literally lying again.
13:52This is exactly why I know he's a liar.
13:53And why didn't you just walk?
13:54Why didn't you give him another chance today?
13:55Why didn't you say anything yesterday?
13:56I loved him, I had a kid with him, everything.
13:57But do you know what?
13:58More for me.
13:59I've learnt from my lesson.
14:00And when I next meet the guy,
14:01I'll make sure he's not as dirty as you.
14:02APPLAUSE
14:03I'll tell you if you don't.
14:04It's only sleeping with seven people that's not dirty.
14:05So he's just said something, by the way,
14:06before you walk off.
14:07Sleeping with seven people isn't dirty, he just said.
14:08That's more than dirty.
14:09That's...
14:10If I can tell the truth, you're dirty...
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20:40Hello mate.
20:41How are you doing?
20:42Yeah, I'm about.
20:43I tried to do as balanced a description of the situation, and for reasons that we can't
20:48go into, I'm not allowed to say what caused your head to be mashed.
20:52I will say this to you, man to man, that would have mashed my head.
20:55Yeah.
20:56However, Ian, I'm an honest guy.
20:59You should have done something a long time ago, shouldn't you?
21:02I could have, but I couldn't at the same time. It was hard.
21:07Because she was in...
21:08Because there was boundaries there that were stopping me from doing that.
21:11Did you wait for that day when she got to an age when you could contact her?
21:15Yeah, well, I had to wait for certain reasons.
21:19When she got to the age and you found her on Facebook, what was that like for you?
21:23It was amazing. Obviously, I got Natasha back in it.
21:27I've not seen Natasha since she was four.
21:29The last time I saw her, she was living in Slough.
21:32Why have you... All right, since you made contact again,
21:35why does she tell us that she tends to make more effort than you do?
21:39Come on.
21:41I think we both make the effort, but I think it is more on Natasha's front.
21:47I've got a lot going on in my life.
21:49I'm trying to battle with my own demons as well.
21:53About time to put them aside, mate, and concentrate on your potential daughter, isn't it?
21:58I'm not being honest.
22:00I mean, this could be the best moment of your life.
22:03If I put them at one side, then I could turn back to the person I used to be
22:07that I don't want to turn back to.
22:09Maybe if she's your daughter, she could help you.
22:12Yeah, of course, yeah. Of course.
22:14But she also has missed out massively... I know.
22:17..because of a situation of not her making.
22:21I'm not saying it was your making, you were part of that situation.
22:24She's a great kid, man. I know.
22:26What would it mean if she was your daughter?
22:28It would be amazing. It's indescribable.
22:31What if she's not?
22:33Well, it's like Natasha said, you know, and it's like I've said to Natasha as well,
22:36nothing's going to change.
22:42I've got to tell you something.
22:44I've got to tell you something, we've got to go to a break.
22:47You've waited 17 years, you've got three minutes.
22:49You want this so much, don't you? I do, yeah.
22:51It is written in your face, back in three minutes, do not go anywhere.
22:55The DNA test results show that he...
23:01This man went and spent 70 quid and bought his own lie detector,
23:05put a chair in the kitchen, strapped her on
23:07and it gave you 14 different answers to the same question.
23:15Do you know someone who's having a secret online affair?
23:18Or are you in an online relationship but suspect you're being catfished?
23:22If you're 16 or over and you'd like to be considered for the show,
23:25email talk at itv.com along with your number.
23:28Text TALK plus your name to 63334.
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23:33Or you can call my team today. It's 09011.
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23:48I'd like to welcome back to the break,
23:50chatting to potential father and daughter Tasha and Ian.
23:53You should be so proud of yourself.
23:55You must be proud of her anyway, whatever this says.
23:57Of course I am, yeah. 100%.
23:59What does this envelope mean to you, sweetheart? The world.
24:02I absolutely, I hate this part cos I genuinely don't know.
24:13The DNA test results show that Ian...
24:16That's your dad, darling.
24:18CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
24:32Look, look, look, look, look, look, look!
24:35CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
24:41I love this girl.
24:46I've never seen him stand up in 13 years.
24:49He's usually so lazy to just sit there.
24:52What does that mean?
24:54Everything.
24:56You're going to get me in a minute.
24:58You're going to get me in a minute, don't you?
25:01Completely changed your face now.
25:04Now I'm going to say it to you.
25:06Demons or no demons, she needs her dad.
25:09I know, mate, I know.
25:11I am sorry.
25:13Ian, you should be so proud of her.
25:15I am proud of her.
25:17Thanks so much.
25:19I wish I could explain to the audience what mashed your head,
25:22but I'm not allowed to, but I know one thing.
25:2417 years too late, you got the answer that I know you wanted
25:27and we will work with you two, and this is why I always say,
25:30it's really easy to just read that out, it's what we do afterwards
25:33and we'll do whatever we need to support you both.
25:35We'll help you with your demons.
25:37But I'll tell you something, demons or no demons,
25:39be proud because that is your daughter.
25:41I am proud of her.
25:43APPLAUSE
25:51Last words from you?
25:55I'm just... I'm amazed.
25:57I'm just so happy.
25:59Happy?
26:01All right, we'll let you and your dad spend some time together backstage
26:04and as a show we'll do whatever we can to support you.
26:06Thanks, mate.
26:07Really, really lovely to meet you.
26:09CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
26:17Good luck to them lovely people.
26:19Right, my next guest today, Edward, is here for make or break
26:22lie detector results.
26:23Edward says he's convinced his partner Michelle has cheated on him.
26:26He's here to tell us more. He's nervous.
26:28Give him a round of applause, Edward, on the Jeremy Carr Show.
26:31CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
26:33CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
26:38Are you scared?
26:39I'm just a bit nervous cos I'm getting the results today, so...
26:43Don't worry, Ed, big breath.
26:45I'm trying to.
26:48Edward, 38, welcome to the show,
26:50been in a relationship with Michelle for 18 months.
26:54You're on the Jeremy Carr Show
26:56because you've heard rumours that she's been cheating.
26:59Have you confronted her?
27:01I've actually asked her, I've talked to about four or five people
27:04basically that have told me different things,
27:06even that she's had sex in the car with somebody,
27:08so I'm a bit concerned because it's actually true.
27:11Well, you would be concerned, yeah.
27:15Before these rumours started, which I believe were two months ago,
27:18things were good.
27:19Yeah, they were, yeah.
27:20Why can't people like you, and I'm probably the same as you,
27:23why is it that our first assumption is she's a cheat,
27:26she's been up to no good, why don't we go,
27:28You know what, those people are stirring.
27:30Is it because five people have said it?
27:32I would have just shrugged it off if it was two or three people said it,
27:35but five people's a lot of people.
27:37You're doing great.
27:38You say she's shifty, different passwords on her phone.
27:41Let's cut to the chase, you've got to be honest today.
27:43Basically, she was putting passwords on her phone and stuff,
27:46so I actually put a password on my phone,
27:48but I said to her she can get it any time and check it,
27:50I was trying to make her jealous.
27:52I told my team as well, she'll start an argument on a particular day
27:55or a given time so that, in your mind,
27:57she can walk out of the house.
27:58Yeah, it just seems to be every Tuesday before she has to go off,
28:00on Wednesday there'll be an argument or something.
28:03Obviously, I'm just a bit worried about it.
28:05Oh, bless you, you love her, don't you?
28:07Yeah.
28:08I need to ask about the sex.
28:10Now, don't get embarrassed, you told my team
28:12she started trying different things.
28:14Yeah, it's basically when we're doing different things,
28:17it just doesn't feel like she's got a different rhythm
28:20and stuff like this, yeah.
28:22I love you, Edward, bless your heart.
28:24Her rhythm has... Shut up!
28:26Her rhythm has changed and it don't feel the same.
28:28What do you mean by that?
28:29It just feels a bit different.
28:30I'm not, like, say I blame her until I get the results,
28:32it's just obviously, it's hurting and whatnot, so...
28:35This man, this man went and spent 70 quid
28:38and bought his own lie detector,
28:40put a chair in the kitchen, strapped her on
28:43and it gave you 14 different answers to the same question.
28:46Yeah, I don't think it was a good one.
28:48What did you say?
28:49I don't think the machine was a good one.
28:51Rubbish. Yeah. Rubbish.
28:53If you want a lie detector, my friends, it's the Jeremy Carl Show.
28:55Make sure you're aware of that.
29:01Now, everybody in the audience...
29:02We were talking about this in the meeting earlier.
29:04Everybody in the audience has gone, oh, that's sweet,
29:06but some people raised the suggestion
29:09that getting your girlfriend to do a lie detector
29:11is a little bit controlling, really.
29:13No, I bought one myself. Strapping her up?
29:15I did actually do one myself.
29:17You've done one?
29:18Not strapped up, no.
29:20You strapped yourself up?
29:22It's kinky, your house is totally kinky.
29:24Did you pass?
29:25I got the lie detector. What happened?
29:27You failed as well, didn't you? Yeah.
29:30He failed on himself.
29:32Just answer me one thing, cos you've done great.
29:34She's coming out, she's doing a lie detector.
29:36Why, oh, why, oh, why, E-War?
29:38Would Michelle, right, then want you to do one?
29:41Maybe that's why you're looking so shifty.
29:43No, it's basically cos I've been told all this
29:45and then when I asked, I actually bought one
29:47and I did one myself as well. I did one today as well.
29:49I actually offered to do one myself today, yeah.
29:51So I've got nothing to think about.
29:53Oh, so you offered to do one? Yes.
29:55Are you going to pass? Yeah.
29:57You hope she passes?
29:58I really hope Michelle passes, yeah. So am I.
30:00And if she does, what happens?
30:02Hopefully we can start fresh.
30:04Do you love her? Yeah.
30:05All right. Nice and manly, we'll get through this.
30:08No strapping anybody up.
30:09Michelle's on the Jeremy Carr Show, that way.
30:11CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
30:21..rubbish, honestly. Oh, dear. Hello.
30:23Hi, how you doing, Jeremy? What did you say?
30:25I said, talking rubbish, see the sex in cars and all that,
30:28it's all stories, it's all a lot of...
30:30And I can't believe he's listening to the people he's listening to.
30:33Difficult, though, if five people are telling you something, right?
30:36People that aren't worth listening to.
30:38And I've not heard anything, Jeremy, I've not heard a thing.
30:41Well, why don't people say me?
30:45No, Eddie, it's just paranoia, it's paranoia, it's not...
30:48If we'd told you, I'd never do it to you.
30:50You say you can't even go buy a pint of milk now,
30:52there's people making accusations.
30:54Honestly, say, won't you follow me to see what I'm getting up to,
30:57and all the rest of it, there's nothing, really,
30:59there's nothing like that going on, doesn't happen that way.
31:01But many people have said that, and then they've come and failed...
31:04Well, see, when the lie detector comes out,
31:06you can go and see the people that said all this,
31:08you can say he comes across as a nice guy,
31:10but actually he's called me some horrible things.
31:12Really hurtful. What?
31:14Jeremy, and it's...
31:16Just all really horrible things,
31:18cheats, he knows I'm the same as the rest of them,
31:20all of it, no, it's not fair, it's not fair.
31:23I don't need it, Eddie. In all fairness, Jeremy...
31:25Listen to her. I don't need it.
31:27I'm not trying to give you... In all fairness, I have said this, Jeremy.
31:30I told you, why are you listening to other people?
31:32Because there's five people, and then there's stories...
31:34Listen to her, mate.
31:36No, that's... Honestly, you know it.
31:38I just want the truth. Deep down, you really know it is.
31:40Tell me about the... I'm sorry to be personal,
31:42cos I like you very much.
31:44Erm, sex life.
31:46Apparently your rhythm's changed. Well, that's what I've said.
31:48My rhythm changed when my hip went.
31:50I don't know what changes. I've said to them backstage,
31:52it's the same old routine, nothing else changes.
31:55And it's not that, it's just things can change.
31:58It's just, I think this is just putting a damper on everything.
32:01It really is. It's not that things have changed.
32:03You did say something,
32:05and this is actually quite shocking,
32:07and I don't want to... I only want you to say...
32:09You said that he'll tell you that it's different for him,
32:11because he believes that you've been with other people.
32:13Mm-hm. Yeah. Do you really say that?
32:15I said it feels different, yeah. I really don't know why.
32:17It's all in his head, I think. It really is.
32:19It's not anything else. You've been cheated on before?
32:21All my life, yeah.
32:23And it feels amazing, I thought.
32:25Tell her how much she loves you.
32:27You love her. She knows I love her.
32:29I wouldn't be here, Jeremy. I adore her.
32:31If she walks on, I'm just scared,
32:33in case it comes back.
32:35Why do you want him to do one?
32:37Because, now, I've got doubts in my mind.
32:39I'm like, he's been sitting in a lassie's house,
32:41and the stories he's listened to from these people,
32:44and then it's just...
32:46I've just got doubts now, and he's told me...
32:48It's interesting, isn't it, because you do a lot of these stories,
32:51and in many instances it comes back to rumour and people stirring
32:54and people getting involved. Aye.
32:56But then sometimes people's gut instincts.
32:58But if I look at your demeanour, and I'm just saying this,
33:00I have no idea what that results is.
33:02If I look at the demeanour of both of you, your facial expressions,
33:05you look haunted, you look dragged down, you look hacked off.
33:08I'm just scared of the results.
33:10But you've pinpointed that this has happened before.
33:12I suspect, when she does pass this,
33:14if I'm wrong, I'm going to batter you verbally, just so you're aware,
33:17but if she does pass this and doesn't make me look like an idiot,
33:20then you very much have to look in the mirror
33:22and try and work out how to deal with this,
33:24because, essentially, at the end of the day,
33:26you can't be with anybody, mate. You know what I mean?
33:28You've got that look of somebody who's haunted,
33:30and people like that. Here's my thing before I open it.
33:32You know the five people that tell you she's having it with other people in the car?
33:35They're worth jack, and they attach themselves to people like you
33:38because they get some kick out of that.
33:40And if this proves what I think it will prove,
33:42you're going to have to say to them,
33:44Do you know what? I couldn't give a rat's backside about what you think.
33:46This is my lady, and I love her, and that's it.
33:48Can I have those results, please?
33:50CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
33:52I'll have a good start with you.
33:56Right, Michelle.
33:58Since the start of your relationship with Edward,
34:00have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
34:03Michelle said no. Why did you say no?
34:05She was telling the truth. Of course she was telling the truth.
34:07CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
34:10Since the start of your relationship with Edward,
34:12have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
34:14She said no, because she was telling the truth.
34:16CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
34:19Since the start of your relationship with Eddie, have you...
34:22She passed every single question.
34:24CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
34:27What are you saying?
34:33I could tell the minute you came out, but that's difficult,
34:35when you're involved. It's getting flames.
34:37Maybe you're nervous, as somebody said to me earlier,
34:39and upset, cos you know you've done wrong.
34:41I really know I've done it.
34:45Since the start of your relationship,
34:47have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
34:49She said no. Why did you say no?
34:51He was telling the truth.
34:53CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
34:57On every single question!
34:59CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
35:10We're going to help you, because you need help.
35:12It's not something to take in the wrong way, but listen to me.
35:14The most horrible thing they are, my darling, in the world,
35:17is when you doubt things, when you're looking over your shoulder.
35:21It's very easy, when you're in a position where you don't have that,
35:25to be quite clinical. You can't be like that.
35:27If this woman is going to be what people have accused her,
35:30no amount of worrying is going to stop her.
35:32I'm not going to listen to anyone from now on, Jeremy.
35:34It's just the amount of people that said it that got me scared.
35:37People get jealous of people's happiness, you know, buddy?
35:39And she's a nice lady and you're a nice man,
35:41you deserve to be happy, but you need to get this sorted,
35:43you need our help, you need to talk this out,
35:45and at the end of the day, you need to stick two fingers up
35:47to the rest of the world, because life is very short,
35:49and at the end of the day, believe your lady.
35:52But from now on, when you get those insecure moments,
35:55don't accuse her, don't slag her off, talk to her.
35:57I can't take it, Eddie, cos I've not done nothing to you,
35:59I've told you that. I was heartbroken,
36:01cos I didn't know if it was true or not.
36:03You know, and you can't keep...
36:04But somebody comes up to you in six months,
36:06your reaction has to be, cos we'll help you,
36:08mate, do one, I'm happy, I love my lady, you all right?
36:11Yeah.
36:12Go that way, give them a round of applause, nice to meet you.
36:14See you later, nice to meet you.
36:16Give them a round of applause, all right.
36:18APPLAUSE
36:19We'll work with him, I'll let you know,
36:20but you're now off the break, don't go anywhere, right back.
36:22How long have you been apart?
36:24Over eight years.
36:25Eight years, and he's still harassing you?
36:28Yes.
36:29Have you given him any encouragement?
36:30No, not whatsoever.
36:35You would have got on top of me!
36:42Do you have an interfering ex, are they ruining your relationship?
36:45Do you suspect your partner is secretly sleeping with their ex?
36:49If you're 16 or over and you'd like to be considered for the show,
36:52email talk at ITV.com along with your number,
36:55text TALK plus your name to 63334,
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37:16Thank you, my friends, welcome back.
37:18Tiff is here to tell ex from hell Mark to back off,
37:20she says that he is harassing her and has even tried it on with her mum.
37:26As a way of getting back at her, she says she hates him
37:28and is here today to tell him, leave me and me mum alone,
37:31get out of our lives, we're done.
37:33That sort of sums it up, Tiff's on the Jeremy Carl Show that way.
37:41How are you?
37:44How are you?
37:45I'm all right, thank you, Jeremy.
37:47Tiff, 25, was with Mark 33...
37:50Why are you smiling like that, are you all right?
37:52You nervous? I'm nervous, slightly nervous.
37:54I'm nervous too, yeah.
37:55How long were you with Mark?
37:57Three years.
37:58You say...
37:59How long have you been apart?
38:01Over eight years.
38:03Eight years and he's still harassing you?
38:06Yes.
38:09Mark needs to back off, stop with the rumours and accept we're over.
38:13He's a trampy old rat who looks like...
38:17He's a trampy old rat who looks like Uncle Fester,
38:20he has a big egg head,
38:22he's got a big egg head and he smells of egg as well.
38:29He messages you ten times a day,
38:32he's a rude, arrogant, desperate womaniser.
38:35Oh, yeah, yeah.
38:37He's even tried it on with me own mum.
38:39Yes.
38:42Tell me how Uncle Fester tried it on with...
38:45About three and a half weeks, about two weeks ago...
38:48Shut up, Uncle Fester, go on, tell me.
38:50About two weeks ago, he texted my mum saying,
38:53oh, I like you, I love spending time with you and your...
38:57And, yeah.
38:59Ed, you know what?
39:01Do one, Ed, get out of my life.
39:04Come on, watchers.
39:06Go back to that, watchers.
39:09Mrs Broadbent.
39:16Could we lose him and just get the text messages a minute?
39:20Lose him. Now, hold on.
39:22Right, this is Mark in white and this is your mother.
39:25Yeah. He says, can I ask you something, please?
39:28She says, all right, you can ask me,
39:30but whether you get a reply or not is a different matter.
39:33Why have I gone Welsh?
39:35It's OK, I'm...
39:37It's good to ask you something.
39:39Just ask me, says Granny.
39:41Next slide, please, Matthew, see if you can get this right.
39:44How would you feel if I said that I like you?
39:48What...? He's saying your mum this? Yeah.
39:51What do you mean, like me?
39:53I like you as in I like you like you.
39:58Kiss, kiss.
40:00Question, Mark. Do you like me?
40:03Yeah. What do you mean?
40:05I love this, it's my favourite part ever.
40:07Keep going, please. Next one, Matthew.
40:09Well, I love spending time with you and the kids.
40:12And, no Ds, I love doing your hair.
40:16And I love the way you look.
40:18Kiss, kiss. Are you there? Four days later.
40:20Yeah, I'm here. And what about Tiff?
40:22That's the daughter.
40:24Me and Tiff are not to give you know me and I know you
40:28and you know I love your kids
40:30and you know that I'm a man that will treat you right.
40:34So what do I say, then?
40:36Next sheet, please.
40:39Are you there? Yeah, I'm here.
40:41Yeah, I'm here and I don't like you like that.
40:43I want my daughter's money back.
40:50Brilliant.
40:54So your mother doesn't want to be with him.
40:56But, darling, with respect, you're saying, you know,
40:58he's spreading rumours that you've slept together,
41:00he's telling people that you're pregnant with his baby,
41:02eight years down the line he won't leave you.
41:04Have you given him any encouragement?
41:06No, not whatsoever.
41:11You're the one who got on top of me!
41:13Sure, that's a BBC quiz, but here we go.
41:16I'm looking forward to this.
41:18You're basically going to tell him to do one
41:20and your mother doesn't want to be with him.
41:22No.
41:23We've got a statement from the mother.
41:25Mark needs to leave me and my daughter Tiff alone.
41:27I had to block him. Dreadful.
41:29As he started harassing me,
41:31he'd send me messages trying on with me and being a creep.
41:34He's playing womanising cheat
41:36and he wants to have sex with anything that moves.
41:41He treated Tiff...
41:45Did he say I did?
41:47He treated Tiff horrible
41:49and kept my daughter prisoner in the flat he was controlling.
41:52Once he sent me filthy messages
41:54and he was in a relationship with my daughter.
41:56I was gobsmacked. It was a relief when they broke up.
41:58He needs to leave us alone.
42:00Have you ever encouraged him? Never.
42:02Mark's on the Jeremy Carr Show!
42:11Shut up, you little...
42:12Shut up!
42:14I can't get you!
42:16You're so blind!
42:18Your mum's better than...
42:20Your mum's better than you!
42:22Leave me alone!
42:24She's in bed!
42:28Sorry, sorry!
42:30How do you know?
42:32I'm sorry!
42:34I'm not the one that harassed you!
42:36You're the one that harassed me!
42:38How do you know?
42:40You shut up!
42:42If it wasn't for us,
42:44you wouldn't be on this show,
42:46you wouldn't have this show.
42:48He's a national winner!
42:50I'm telling you!
42:52I'm telling you!
42:54I'm telling you!
42:56I'm telling you!
42:58I'm telling you!
43:00I never loved you again!
43:02I'm glad I got out of your life!
43:04Really? That's what you said in Texas?
43:06Tell me!
43:08Really, that's why you fired me, yeah?
43:10Very nice. I've never won a national television award,
43:12thank you for that, but could I just say...
43:14How do you know the mother's good in bed?
43:16Well, it's what I got told.
43:18To back him up,
43:20we have some other... Sit down.
43:22You say that she has texted you, don't you?
43:24Yeah, she told me that she loves me.
43:26Did you not get back together a few weeks ago?
43:28Oh, there they are.
43:30Are you white or...?
43:32I'm yellow. Right.
43:34Tiff says, why would you send him a new number?
43:36Obviously, I split up with...
43:38Phone me, baby, and then you say,
43:40I love you, and then he says,
43:42love you to phone me, sexy princess.
43:44And you say in a minute,
43:46and then you send him 5,000 kisses,
43:48you know, he does, and then you say love you again.
43:50My question is, if he's such a weird,
43:52freaky stalker...
43:54I'll tell you what, Jeremy, there's more than that.
43:56I'm trying for you, shut up.
43:58Is he such a weirdo?
44:00Why are you giving him your number
44:02and telling him you love him?
44:04I'm telling you, at the time, Jeremy,
44:06my head was all over the place.
44:08It was all over the place.
44:10Your head was what?
44:12All over the place, my head.
44:14Did you...
44:16She's the one that wants sex with me.
44:18All she done was lie down there.
44:28I think I'm having a breakdown.
44:32Get out of my face now!
44:34You're pregnant with my baby!
44:36I'm not pregnant!
44:38Get out of my face!
44:40And then you're the one to tell me that!
44:42This is an abortion!
44:44Sorry, darling, could you just...
44:46Could somebody stop her, please?
44:48Could you slow down, please?
44:50Could you just...
44:52Tiff, will you slow down, please?
44:54Stop. Thank you.
44:56You've done a pregnancy test, you're not pregnant.
44:58Will you stop screaming and calm down, please?
45:00Thank God for that.
45:02The truth of the matter is, darling,
45:04I'm not having a go, I'm sure he has done things wrong,
45:06but the truth is, if you find...
45:08The man's a stalker and he's weird.
45:10He's sending me a number and saying he loves you, right?
45:12That's what I'm saying, so you just calm down and talk to us nicely.
45:14She had me arrested eight years ago
45:16for something I didn't do.
45:18Did you have sex with him recently?
45:20Yes. No, I did not.
45:22No, I did not.
45:24I lied to Tiff.
45:26I'll tell you what,
45:28why don't you just tell the truth when it's wrong?
45:30You're nothing but a lying little scumbag.
45:32It doesn't...
45:34No, I'm Mrs Blobby!
45:36Why do you have to do that?
45:38You're accusing me of beating her up,
45:40accusing me of other stuff,
45:42matters that I've never even done.
45:44I got found not guilty in court.
45:46Can I just say that the best thing that you two can do
45:48with our help is make sure
45:50you never have any contact...
45:52Well, then, don't pick the contact up.
45:54It's not me, it's her!
45:56You're going to my hometown!
45:58I don't think so, Tiff!
46:00The message's approved it!
46:02Just go away.
46:04You said that you know what he's like,
46:06but you fell for the charms,
46:08your head was all over the place,
46:10and it was a mistake.
46:12That's all we're saying, there's no more.
46:14Guys, listen, to finish today,
46:16we're bringing this down,
46:18we're going to work with both of you separately.
46:20Sometimes in life, people have an attraction,
46:22and it all goes hideously wrong.
46:24You two are not right in any which way.
46:26I totally agree.
46:28It is too emotional.
46:30Look, look at me.
46:32What are you doing sending texts to your mother?
46:34You don't want to hurt me the most yet.
46:36You know full well what my mum's gone through.
46:38How could you?
46:40Because I'm crying for my mum.
46:42It doesn't matter, you still hurt my mum.
46:44When you say they're upset...
46:46Well, your mum didn't say anything.
46:48You see, I'm protecting my mum, Jeremy.
46:50Were you jealous?
46:52I wasn't jealous at all.
46:54Do you want to be quiet?
46:56You can't be happy seeing me in a relationship.
46:58That's what...
47:00You don't want to be with him, do you?
47:02At the end of the day,
47:04obviously, Jeremy, I don't want him with my mum.
47:06But then don't sleep with him.
47:08I didn't sleep with him!
47:10Yes, you did!
47:12Something happened, yeah?
47:14He kissed me.
47:16No, no, no.
47:18You spent a week at my...
47:20Did I? How? That's why I was only there for four days.
47:22So you did go in his bed for four days.
47:24In my bed!
47:26I was in a room, yeah, and I dreaded every minute of it.
47:28Really? My mates were there.
47:30What, watching?
47:32My mates stayed at mine.
47:34You two do not work together.
47:36I'm just being honest.
47:38You need to both deal with whatever you're dealing with.
47:40I want her out of my life for good.
47:42Then don't send her or her mother any messages, then.
47:44It's not me.
47:46Stop slagging her off. Just calm it down, Tiff.
47:48We've all done that.
47:50Go back, shoulder to cry and all that.
47:52It isn't right.
47:54We're going to deal with both of you separately and calmly
47:56with Steph and Graham and the team, all right?
47:58Seriously.
48:00You shouldn't meet again.
48:02I've done nothing to do that.
48:04Delete her number. Stop squeaking.
48:06I've blocked her.
48:08Every time I block her, she gets a new number
48:10and texts me and phones me.
48:12I'm going to block you in a minute if you don't shut up.
48:14Listen.
48:16Nice and calm, Steph.
48:22Are we done?
48:24It's the end of the show. I'm going home.
48:26Thank you very much and goodbye.