The Jeremy Kyle Show (24 Jan 2017)
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00:10On today's show...
00:12Are you all ready for Jeremy McDonnell?
00:15Jeremy! Jeremy! Jeremy! Jeremy! Jeremy! Jeremy! Jeremy!
00:22Thank you, Jeremy.
00:23Kelly's your best mate?
00:24Yeah.
00:25And Kelly's sister's Emma?
00:26Yeah. I don't really like her at all.
00:28Can I ask you why?
00:29At the end of the day, she's the one that pulls black men's pants down and gives them **** for money.
00:35She's beautiful.
00:37Don't! Don't! Don't!
00:39Lisa, that's it! Crack, you smack head!
00:41Oh, yeah, look at this!
00:43Dammit! Go and just clear yourself on your face!
00:45How the hell can I say anything?
00:47Have I ever met a man?
00:48No! No!
00:50Innit, love?
00:51Oh, yeah, really? Who's the one that's gupping now?
00:53Shut up!
00:54Yeah, obviously.
00:55Who's shut up?
00:56Were you telling me to shut up?
00:57Yeah!
00:58Shut up!
01:05Do you honestly believe he's cheated?
01:07I've got my bank.
01:10Do you love her?
01:11Yeah.
01:12Have you cheated on her?
01:13No.
01:14Can I have the results?
01:15We asked Mark, this is the start of your relationship with Kimberley.
01:17Have you had sexual contact with the woman in question?
01:18Yeah.
01:19You said no. Why did you say no?
01:20Don't ask me.
01:29CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:31Morning, guys.
01:40Good morning, it's Emma, a big, big welcome to the show.
01:43Now, my first guest today, Natalie,
01:44says she's here to expose her best mate's sister, Emma,
01:47as a cheating liar.
01:49Natalie says she's heard rumours that Emma's been calling her
01:51a bad mum and a druggie,
01:53despite the fact that Natalie is 21 weeks pregnant.
01:56Natalie says that she is convinced that Emma is cheating on her boyfriend
01:59and has even heard rumours that she's been prostituting herself
02:02for money.
02:03She says she is furious with Emma.
02:05Today, she's going to expose her as a cheat.
02:07Natalie, full of it, by the way, on The Kyle Show That Way.
02:16I'm a little bit confused, so help me out.
02:19Kelly's your best mate?
02:20Yeah.
02:21And Kelly's sister's Emma?
02:23Yeah. I don't really like her at all.
02:25She's making rumours...
02:26No!
02:27She's making rumours up, basically saying Kelly's sleeping around,
02:30she's taking crack cocaine, she's a bad mum.
02:33At the end of the day, she's the one that pulls black men's pants down
02:36and gives them...for money.
02:39That's disgusting in my eyes.
02:40Sorry, can we just rewind?
02:42My life gets worse by the minute.
02:44So, your best mate is Kelly?
02:46Kelly, yeah.
02:47All right.
02:48Emma's her sister?
02:50Yeah.
02:51And Emma...
02:52Do you know...
02:53You don't even...
02:54know me!
02:55What's wrong?
02:56Don't mouth at me like I'm...
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03:22Steve?
03:23Steve, Steve, Steve.
03:24I've got a finger in me eye.
03:27From that big idiot!
03:32I don't really...
03:33See, Steve's never done that, which is why he's the main man.
03:35That's why you will never be the main man.
03:37Do you know why?
03:38Cos you're useless.
03:39Give Steve a round of applause.
03:47You don't even know me.
03:48That's the best part about it.
03:49Well, I haven't met you yet.
03:50Yeah, exactly.
03:51She doesn't have a clue.
03:52Right, back to the story.
03:55Kelly's your mate.
03:56Can we do this slowly?
03:57Kelly's your mate, right?
03:58Yeah.
03:59This Emma Bird doesn't like Kelly
04:01and has been spreading rumours about you and her.
04:03Yeah.
04:04Let's talk about you, because one thing that worries me,
04:06you are 22 weeks pregnant.
04:07And I'm supposed to have been taking crack,
04:09which I haven't.
04:10You admitted over there you smoke dope whilst you're pregnant, love.
04:13Why would you do that?
04:14Because it was a one-off.
04:17Emma, stop to think what that might do to your kid.
04:19I'm being serious.
04:20I've asked for help for that, but no-one's offering me their help.
04:22I'm here to show the nation
04:23exactly what a horrible piece of work Emma is.
04:25Can I ask you why?
04:26Because I've heard rumours that she's been sleeping with men,
04:29pulling the pants down, robbing them.
04:31She even asked Kelly...
04:32Robbing them?
04:33..her own sister to take a man back to the house,
04:35pull his trousers down and rob his wallet.
04:38Rob his wallet?
04:39I thought you said something else then.
04:41Rob his wallet.
04:43Give him what?
04:45Rob his wallet.
04:46That's how disgusting she is.
04:48Emma's a cheat.
04:49She's got a reputation.
04:50She sold her body for sex.
04:52You're implying that she's a prostitute.
04:54Well, no, not necessarily.
04:55She's just sold herself for money.
04:57She's an ugly-faced, spotty dog.
04:59Yeah.
05:01She's in a relationship with Ashley.
05:03You say that you've got proof that this tramp...
05:07Has cheated.
05:09I've cheated, yeah, right.
05:11..has cheated on her boyfriend.
05:13She's got an attitude.
05:14She might be cocky over Facebook or when she's...
05:17All I put to her on Facebook was,
05:19what's up?
05:20Why have you got a beef, though?
05:22Why doesn't her sister...?
05:23Because she's upsetting my friend.
05:25My friend has not been on drugs for ages.
05:27She's sorting herself out and she just can't be happy for her.
05:30She can't be happy.
05:31She needs to get out of her life.
05:33She's come through, yeah?
05:34You are 22 weeks pregnant.
05:36You admit that you've smoked...
05:37Shut up!
05:38..test back!
05:40It's gay, your boyfriend!
05:41That's why he's not doing the...
05:43..lies he takes the test, cos he's cheated on you!
05:45Because he's cheated on me, love!
05:46You idiot!
05:47It's an excuse.
05:49It's an excuse.
05:50Get off, silly cow.
05:52I've got loads of things to do, love.
05:53I care about my baby inside me, love.
05:56Well, then you wouldn't smoke dope, would you?
05:58Can you care about when you smoke?
05:59So what?
06:00You're telling me you're a...
06:01..insane?
06:02I haven't touched drugs yet.
06:03I didn't...
06:05..I'm sorry.
06:07There you go!
06:08Ooh!
06:12She won't go for my beer, that is what she won't do.
06:14Oi, you, I'm not doing this unless you do...
06:16Don't talk to her like that!
06:18Yeah, you brush yours and all!
06:20Is that grease or is it some hair?
06:22Look at the state of your face, love!
06:23You was clear as hell!
06:24Yeah, I was clear as hell!
06:26Emma's on the Jeremy Carl show, that one.
06:36Where's she gone now?
06:39Silly cow.
06:40Do I get stressed with her, then?
06:44Welcome to the show.
06:45Apparently, you're cheating on your boyfriend
06:48and you steal people's wallets.
06:50No, that's not true at all.
06:52I'm not being funny.
06:53You don't even know me!
06:54I've been told this.
06:55You don't even know me, but you're making a ruckus about me.
06:57I haven't even...
06:58I can't...
06:59Can I say anything?
07:00Have I ever...
07:01Don't...
07:02..frightening me, love!
07:04Yeah, and you've picked your...
07:07..in it, love.
07:08Oh, yeah, really?
07:09Who's the one that's gupping now?
07:10How the hell can I...
07:11Sit down and shut up.
07:13..you down in a minute, you silly little...
07:17Why are you here?
07:18Why am I here?
07:19To prove my innocence.
07:20Cos at the end of the day, right, why?
07:22I don't even know Natalie from Adam.
07:24I don't know you, love, either.
07:25So, why the hell are you...
07:26Why the hell are you...
07:27Have you done an eye detector?
07:28I'm not being funny.
07:29To prove what?
07:30That you're not a prostitute?
07:31To prove I'm not cheating.
07:32I haven't treated on my partner.
07:34Have you cheated on him at all?
07:35No, I haven't.
07:36No.
07:37Why does it matter to you
07:38and why aren't you just being a little bit calmer?
07:40Cos I've seen Kelly upset, in tears, because of her sister.
07:42You've got a baby inside, you've already smoked dope.
07:44You should be there, calm.
07:45You can support your friend without being so violent, can't you?
07:47Yeah, and I can stop smoking weed.
07:49Have you stopped?
07:50Yeah.
07:51Shut up!
07:52Yeah, but obviously...
07:53Come on!
07:54So, in a minute, your sister...
07:55Shut up.
07:57Did she tell me to shut up?
07:58No, she was telling her to shut up.
07:59No, she was telling you to shut up, cos you were talking.
08:01No, she was telling him to shut up.
08:02To shut up?
08:03Sorry, hold on a minute.
08:04Yes, she was telling her to shut up.
08:05I didn't even say it out.
08:06Were you telling me to shut up?
08:08Yeah, I was.
08:11I'm not going to sit back and stay next to you.
08:14She's obviously upset.
08:15Hold her back.
08:16She's here next.
08:17After the break, I'm right back.
08:18Don't go anywhere.
08:19You're on DLA, love, and you're not even poly.
08:21Whatever.
08:22She's got excuses.
08:23Whatever.
08:24Yeah, so have you.
08:25Well, after this, I'll put them out.
08:26She's not my...
08:27Can I just point out...
08:28She's dead to me, Sarah.
08:29She's dead to me.
08:30Since the start of your relationship with Ashley,
08:32have you had sexual intercourse with anybody else?
08:33You said no.
08:34Why don't you say no?
08:35Tell the truth.
08:40Have you been accused of cheating?
08:42Do you need to prove your innocence with a lie detector?
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09:15Thank you very much, Eddie.
09:16You're welcome, man.
09:17Before the break, Natty and Emma were exchanging pleasantries.
09:19Your sister is Kelly.
09:21Yeah.
09:22You don't get on with her.
09:23You're Kelly's mate.
09:24You're 22 weeks pregnant.
09:25We've already found out that you smoked dope whilst you were pregnant
09:27and you're quite aggressive.
09:28You need to calm down.
09:29You say she's cheating.
09:30Shut up.
09:31You say she's cheating on her partner.
09:32What?
09:33She's a prostitute and she performs oral sex on men
09:35and then nicks their wallets.
09:36You say, I don't even know you, love,
09:38just because I've got a feud with my sister.
09:40What's your sister called?
09:41Kelly.
09:42Kelly's on the Jeremy Cowell show, that way.
09:50Why such animosity?
09:51What's going on?
09:54I just don't want now to deal with it.
09:56I brought her on last time to tell her I don't want now to deal with it.
09:58So why the hell are you bringing me on again?
10:00Showing me up.
10:01I'm not being funny, Kelly.
10:03People have told me a lot about you.
10:06I'm sick and tired of telling people...
10:08Whatever.
10:09You're on DLA, love, and you're not even poorly...
10:11Whatever.
10:12She's got his shoes.
10:13Yeah, so have you.
10:14Yeah, I've got his shoes up there.
10:15Yeah, I've got his shoes up there.
10:17Hello, shut up.
10:18Let me get this out.
10:19Why is that your problem?
10:21Hello.
10:22Ashley is with her, but you think that she's cheated on him,
10:25but you also shouted out from the side that you think that he's cheated on her.
10:28Yeah, because why?
10:29I've been told he's cheated on her, fair enough it's rumoured,
10:32and I apologise to both of them if they haven't done it,
10:34but after this I don't want now to deal with her because she's not my...
10:37Can I just point out...
10:38She's dead to me, Sarah, she's dead to me.
10:40Can I point out that you have all said the same thing,
10:43which is, we've heard.
10:45How did you meet your mate Natalie?
10:47I met her six years ago when I was pregnant with my second child.
10:50It's not what you told my team, is it?
10:52Isn't it true, ladies and gentlemen,
10:54that you two met when you had a threesome?
10:56No.
10:58It's what you told my team.
11:00And I'll happily do a lie detector, not at all.
11:02Have you ever had a threesome together?
11:04No, I wouldn't ever, ever, ever have one.
11:06I'm sorry, but that's dirty and downgrading.
11:08I'm not dirty and downgrading myself.
11:11But she is.
11:13Well, it sounds of it from what I've heard.
11:15Ashley's your boyfriend.
11:16You say, I'm not interested in my sister, I haven't cheated on my boyfriend,
11:19I'm doing a lie detector and I'll prove it.
11:21Do you love Ashley?
11:22Yes, I do.
11:23Where are you going now?
11:26Will you stop walking off, because I'm getting another.
11:29Are you messaging me off?
11:31Oi, oi, oi, oi.
11:33Can I have a word with her, let her speak? Kelly?
11:35Ashley's on the journey.
11:37She's coming out.
11:43I'll do a lie detector if you have cheated on Ashley.
11:50I swear to God.
11:52It's all right, it's all right, it's all right.
11:57You're the reason that this all happened.
11:59No, you shut up and sit down.
12:01Why am I the reason?
12:02When she came at me and thought,
12:04what have I got to do with this?
12:06She's got nothing to do with this, Kelly.
12:12Why do you keep...
12:14Why do you keep being aggressive?
12:17Because I want her to leave me out of my...
12:19There's some of you... Shut up, all right, we'll send you off.
12:21There's some of you, isn't it? You just imply that he's messaged you.
12:23You think that what? That he's...
12:25Yeah, no, obviously, we've blocked each other,
12:26because the last time he was being nice at first,
12:28and I'm not even going to get into that.
12:29I just want her gone. I want her gone.
12:31Why don't we just do your lie detector?
12:33And if you prove as you're saying that you're not cheating on him...
12:35Nice hair, by the way.
12:37Then surely you can go and have your baby,
12:39and you can walk around looking mean and moody elsewhere,
12:41and you can just...
12:42Can I say something, please?
12:43Oh, please do.
12:44The only reason I blocked you on Facebook
12:47is because to let you get on with your own life.
12:49Why, did you fancy her?
12:50I don't know.
12:51Why were you talking to her?
12:52Exactly!
12:53Prove it!
12:54You were the one that messaged him!
12:56Kelly, come on, calm down.
12:58If you do it again, you're off this show, OK?
13:00She's not worth it.
13:01If you do it again, you're off the show.
13:02Now, sit down and shut up.
13:03You'll see her.
13:04Absolutely.
13:05CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
13:10You messaged Ash, and...
13:12You think... You think Kelly fancies him, don't you?
13:15I'm not being funny. She said...
13:17She's being... But be quiet.
13:19Did you tell her to stop being aggressive, and you shut your mouth?
13:22Give me the results.
13:23You need to stop making threats, lady.
13:25You really do, Kelly.
13:26So does she.
13:27So does she.
13:28I haven't even threatened you!
13:29I don't even know you have the help!
13:31We asked Emma, since the start of your relationship...
13:33You're a negative!
13:34I am loving!
13:35So don't come up to me, then!
13:37You called her a prostitute, you said she does whatever...
13:40And I apologise if she hasn't...
13:41Since the start of your relationship with Ash,
13:43have you had sexual intercourse with anybody else?
13:45Shut up!
13:46We asked Emma, you said no. Why did you say no?
13:48Your sister was telling the truth.
13:50There you go.
13:54Since the start of your relationship with Ash,
13:56have you had sexual contact with anybody else?
13:58We asked Emma, this test says she was telling the truth.
14:00But what? I'm not married! I'm not married!
14:02I'm not married!
14:03Your sister got a full house and told the truth.
14:05No, I'm not!
14:14Your sister says she hasn't took drugs, that's what it is,
14:16I'm not being called a crackhead.
14:17Yeah, I've not smoked weed.
14:18That was a one-off!
14:19When we went out that night, that was a one-off!
14:23Can somebody get her back? I'm not chasing her,
14:25cos I've got your drugs test results as well.
14:27Thank you, it'll come back with weeding, I told you that.
14:30I am sick and tired of running around. I'm bored.
14:33Get back out. I'm not doing it, I'm sick of it.
14:35Let's all... Ow!
14:37Let's just walk around the whole time.
14:39I'm sick of walking around.
14:42Oi! Where are you going now? Sit down and be quiet!
14:47Get your drugs test, prove to her that you haven't took crack.
14:51Will you please be quiet? Now, shut up!
14:53Well, she's accusing her of taking crack every day.
14:55Seriously, be quiet, and you accuse her of being a prostitute,
14:57providing sexual favours, and she hasn't.
14:59She passed, they both...
15:00That's the beginning of their relationship,
15:02it's not the beginning.
15:03I've been looking for cannabis, I can tell you at result.
15:06Not crack.
15:07You both did drugs tests, yeah? Yeah.
15:09And apart from her admission of cannabis,
15:11which, can I please reiterate, is not at all wise
15:13when you're pregnant, woman.
15:15Shut up.
15:16And I've asked...
15:17They are both clear of drugs, completely.
15:20APPLAUSE
15:24I want the smell off your face!
15:26Here we go, you're not on drugs.
15:28And you're not...
15:29So why don't you just get on with your lives and stop...
15:32I'm trying to, with anybody, I've never cheated.
15:35Bye, see you later!
15:37It's the time of day, love.
15:41Go sort your teeth, love.
15:44Go, go, go, go.
15:59I don't really know what to say.
16:02They're not on drugs, apart from her smoking cannabis,
16:05and we made that point, and she's not a prostitute,
16:07so quite why they should meet is anyway, never mind,
16:09we'll let you know, good luck to them.
16:11My next guest today, Kim, is here to find out
16:13if her boxer boyfriend has been fighting clean
16:15or playing dirty with other women.
16:17Do you like that?
16:18She says that partner Mark has been disappearing for hours
16:20with no explanation, she just can't shake the doubt
16:22that he's been unfaithful.
16:24Now, escalating her suspicions still further,
16:26Mark got a message from another woman claiming
16:28she'd been taking Mark for herself,
16:30and even claim they'd been recently lining up
16:32something behind her back.
16:33Kim says she's desperate to know the truth
16:35and wants to clear her own name while she's at it.
16:37It's a big day for her.
16:38She says if he's messed about, check this, Will,
16:40she's throwing in the towel.
16:42Kim's on the Jeremy Carl show that way.
16:44APPLAUSE
16:51Oh, God, you look so sad.
16:54We're back there again, this is your life, isn't it?
16:56In a moment, it's all right for people to sit there.
16:58You've been in a relationship with him for a matter of months,
17:00but you say he's the love of your life.
17:02Yeah.
17:03I have a horrible feeling that he's cheated.
17:06Just take me back to how you met.
17:08We used to talk on Facebook.
17:10What a lovely thing that is.
17:13And I went to meet him in the town.
17:16I told my team it was love at first sight,
17:18we were inseparable, everything was great.
17:21How did we end up here, sweetheart?
17:23He went to go and sell a phone and this girl said,
17:26I don't know where I can take you.
17:28And then the other day he was sending the messages on Facebook.
17:31Oh, look at you.
17:33You told my team,
17:34one girl keeps saying that Mark cheats on me with her,
17:37she says I'm fat and that he'll leave me for her.
17:40He doesn't defend me.
17:42No.
17:43Not at all?
17:44He just tells her to behave.
17:46And you've seen messages saying,
17:48when are we going for a drive, when are we going to hook up,
17:50and you're sad at home, you're quite upset.
17:53This woman says horrible things and he doesn't defend your honour.
17:56Aren't you angry with him or are you just so down about the whole thing?
17:59He does defend me.
18:01He went to her house to sell a phone,
18:03it's supposed to be 15 minutes, he was gone for four hours.
18:06Do you honestly believe he's cheated?
18:08I do and I don't. I've got my doubts.
18:10That's why we're doing a lie detector.
18:12What about you? Help me out, sweetheart.
18:14Why are you doing a lie detector?
18:16Just to prove to him that I'm not a cheat.
18:18Well, are you a cheat? Why would you think you're a cheat?
18:20It's him out there with a phone and a bird for four hours, isn't it?
18:22Why would you be doing one? I don't know.
18:24What are you going to do if he fails?
18:26Talk about it, try and sell it.
18:28You absolutely adore this bloke, don't you?
18:30Can I just tell you something that maybe isn't what you want to hear?
18:33I don't know the results yet, but I'll tell you what I don't like.
18:35I don't like a woman or anybody who's got such low self-esteem
18:37that they sit there and go,
18:39you know what, if he's cheated on me, we'll talk about it.
18:41If he's cheated on you, he's not worth a jack
18:43and you should kick his backside.
18:45Yes?
18:47Mark's got the Jeremy Carr show.
18:49Rocky's coming out. Give him a round of applause.
18:59You horrible man. I hate.
19:01I said you're horrible.
19:03It's up to you, isn't it?
19:05It's up to you, isn't it?
19:07Aren't you defending her when people are slagging her off?
19:09Of course I am.
19:11She says you weren't.
19:13All the time, I do. Little liar.
19:15Who's a liar?
19:17Always looking for you.
19:19Why are you telling my team that you want to know
19:21if she's cheating on you with her friend?
19:23Yeah, cos a mate always comes round the house when I'm out.
19:25Why doesn't he always come when I'm there?
19:27Do you think she's cheated?
19:29Yeah.
19:31When I'm out, he comes round.
19:33Why is that, though?
19:35Ask her, not me. I don't know.
19:37Why is that?
19:39I don't know, cos he's a friend.
19:41So he just admits it there?
19:43No.
19:45He just said there, didn't he?
19:47Are you going to say anything at all?
19:49He does come round, doesn't he?
19:51Yeah, not when you're out, though.
19:53Yeah, he does.
19:55He comes round both when I'm there.
19:57Have you cheated on her?
19:59Are you saying that you are cheating on her?
20:01I caused trouble, that's why.
20:03I even showed her messages, she sat there while she was doing it.
20:05She even phoned me and said, yeah, I was joking and winded you up.
20:07I caused trouble.
20:09Why don't you tell them to butt out and stop trying to upset your bird?
20:11I did.
20:13So you haven't said anything, darling.
20:15I can't do this if you say nothing.
20:17Tell him why you're concerned.
20:19Come on.
20:21Because obviously she's sending you messages like that.
20:23Yeah, I caused trouble.
20:25She even phoned you.
20:27Do you love her?
20:29Yeah.
20:31Have you cheated on her?
20:33No.
20:35Have you cheated on him?
20:37No.
20:39So you're both going to pass.
20:41We're going to have, essentially, for the first time all day,
20:43a happy ending, yes?
20:45Yeah.
20:47Why do I not think this is going to happen?
20:49I don't know.
20:51Look me in the eyes, have you cheated?
20:53No.
20:55Have you had sexual contact with a man?
20:57In question, that's the one that keeps going round when you're out.
20:59She said no.
21:01Why did she say no?
21:03You're going to have a breakdown, Graham!
21:05She's also allegedly told somebody else they're the father.
21:07At first.
21:09She did, at first, she did, yeah.
21:11If this kid is yours, what does that mean?
21:13He's not real to me because obviously it's my first child.
21:15The DNA test results show that, Josh,
21:17how sure are you 100%?
21:19Oh, what are you playing at, are you?
21:21Have you heard the news?
21:23The NTAs are back.
21:25Oh, the NTAs.
21:27Why don't you take a promo, Jess?
21:29Because everybody will vote for you.
21:31No, they don't.
21:3312 years, 2,000 shows.
21:35I've been abused, I've been threatened, I've been ill.
21:37Everything's happened in my life.
21:39Nobody gives a damn about me.
21:41You're not in, nobody's interested.
21:43Oh, and there it is, isn't it?
21:45It's all about you.
21:47Nobody gives a damn about Jess anymore.
21:49Well, do you know what?
21:51I'm going to a dark room to lie down.
22:17Hello.
22:19Security guard on Jeremy Cowell's show.
22:21Very, very much.
22:23Very manly.
22:27Protect me for a change.
22:29You like the big man, do you?
22:31Oh, I love the big man.
22:39Good morning.
22:41Welcome to my show.
22:47APPLAUSE
22:57Welcome back to the break, Kim and Mark.
22:59I mean, to be fair, you don't trust each other, do you?
23:01Yeah, I trust her, yeah.
23:03She's doing a lie detector.
23:05She's paranoid.
23:07Paranoid bad man.
23:09You're paranoid as well, because his bloke comes round the house.
23:11Yeah, obviously you respect that, wouldn't you?
23:13Why are you in here, fella?
23:15But you don't trust her then, do you?
23:17Why do you keep calling Mum when I'm not there?
23:19Then you don't trust her, do you?
23:21I just asked you.
23:23Can I have the results?
23:25Who should we do first?
23:27Let's do Kim first, yes?
23:29She's looking happy now.
23:31You all right, Kim?
23:33You going to pass, Kim?
23:35We'll hang out the bunting, Kim.
23:37You all right, Steve? You all right, Richard?
23:39You all right, Will?
23:41Right.
23:43Kim's relationship with Mark,
23:45if you had sexual contact with a man in question,
23:47that's the one that keeps going round when you're out.
23:49She said no. Why did she say no?
23:51She was telling the truth!
23:53CHEERING
23:55Kim's relationship with Mark,
23:57if you had sexual intercourse with another,
23:59she said no, because she was telling the truth!
24:01CHEERING
24:03In fact, she was telling the truth on every single question.
24:05Your girlfriend. Say sorry for doubting her.
24:07Sorry.
24:09CHEERING
24:11You're getting more romantic than that.
24:13What about you? What about the messages?
24:15What about the bird and the phone?
24:17You're looking a bit nervous now. Are you going to pass?
24:19Are you sure? How sure?
24:21Do you think he's going to pass?
24:23What if he doesn't? You'll still go,
24:25I love you, won't you?
24:27Since the start of your relationship with Kimberley,
24:29if he had sexual contact with the woman in question,
24:31that's the one with the phone, yeah?
24:33You said no. Why did you say no?
24:35Tested you're a liar, pal.
24:37No response at all,
24:39you're shifty as hell, aren't you?
24:41Since the start of your relationship with Kimberley,
24:43have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
24:45You said no. This says you lied on that question as well.
24:47No, I'm late.
24:49It also says he failed on the sexual intercourse question.
24:51Everyone.
24:53Nothing? No.
24:55What do you mean, no? You know you cheated.
24:57I haven't lied.
24:59Of course you have. Nothing.
25:01Absolutely nothing.
25:03You're not going to say anything?
25:05Why am I wasting my time? Because you're just going to go home with him anyway, aren't you?
25:07Talk.
25:09Tell him how it makes you feel.
25:11Upset and angry.
25:13Tell her the truth, pal.
25:15What about?
25:17Get your hand away from her.
25:19What about?
25:21Do you honestly think that you're coming out
25:23looking anything other than a horrible person?
25:25Tell her the truth.
25:27The test's right, isn't it?
25:29No. Yes, it is. No, it's not at all.
25:31What? It's not right.
25:33Of course it's right, you're just awful.
25:35If it goes out, nobody will go near you, mate.
25:45Listen to me.
25:47I know it's never easy, right?
25:49He doesn't even come and say sorry.
25:51He doesn't say anything.
25:53I understand people have stage fright,
25:55but really, darling, listen to me.
25:57You deserve so much more than that,
25:59and the only way we get through...
26:01Oh, here we go.
26:05One big joke to you, is it?
26:07No.
26:09Are you all right, like, or what?
26:11Yeah.
26:13Can I sit here?
26:15Go on, yeah.
26:17Sorry, could I just reenact that?
26:19You went, you all right, and you nodded.
26:21You're all right, are you?
26:23I know I'm a really, really busy person
26:25and I might seem unfair.
26:27He's been messing around behind your back.
26:29Why don't you admit it?
26:31I haven't, though, have I?
26:33So you're going to tell her that the test's wrong?
26:35Yeah, yeah, I will, yeah.
26:39I need to have some therapy, Graham.
26:41I can't do this anymore.
26:43Why are you putting up with this?
26:47Because I love him, but...
26:49You love him?
26:51Do you think he loves...
26:53Look at me.
26:55Do you think he loves you
26:57when he's having intercourse with another woman?
26:59No.
27:01After all these years, I'm sat here, I'm wasting my breath.
27:03You are a liar.
27:05All right, then.
27:07You'll think that, innit?
27:09You failed the test.
27:11So what do you want to happen, then?
27:13The message is where, right where, innit?
27:15Why didn't you fail the test and she passed?
27:17I don't know.
27:19Because you're lying!
27:21We're going to have a breakdown, Graham!
27:25So what do you want to happen?
27:27I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what.
27:29Why don't you forget the tests,
27:31go home and live happily ever after, yeah?
27:33Because let me tell you something.
27:35I can sit here and tell you the truth,
27:37but I think better is for you to find it out.
27:39Why don't you just forget the tests,
27:41go home, be together,
27:43be lovely, won't it, yeah?
27:45Is that a good idea?
27:47Yeah.
27:49No.
27:51You don't want to do that now.
27:53Obviously, what do you want to happen now, then?
27:55Obviously, what do you want to happen now?
27:57Make me elsewhere.
27:59Make me elsewhere.
28:01I don't think I can do this.
28:05Ignore the tests, go home, be happy with him,
28:07yeah, let him explain.
28:09It was probably just an indiscretion, wasn't it?
28:13I think it'll be fine.
28:17I think what I'm going to do is
28:19I'm actually going to give up.
28:21I'm going to take...
28:23What I'm going to do is I'm going to walk out the studio
28:25and I'm going to keep walking,
28:27because I've done this for 3,000 times
28:29and never in my life have I met two
28:31less interested, more motivated, more interested...
28:33Let me just explain this.
28:35Do what you want.
28:37Do you know something?
28:39I would rather go and watch grass grow
28:41than talk to you two.
28:43I reckon sometimes
28:45I come from a different planet.
28:47The Jeremy Carr show's been on for 11 years.
28:49It's supposed to be a talk show, but they didn't say anything.
28:51And when he'd been found out as a cheat,
28:53he came out and he went,
28:55you all right then? And she went, yeah.
28:57What am I supposed to do? It doesn't work.
28:59Right, let's move on, please, God.
29:01Josh is next. He's here to find out
29:03if he's the father to girlfriend Amy's baby.
29:05Josh says that despite Amy saying
29:07she's 100% sure he's the father,
29:09he needs to know for sure as he's finding it impossible
29:11to bond with one-month-old Olivia.
29:13Josh says that Amy even told someone else
29:15they were the dad when she first felt pregnant,
29:17so he can't help but wonder.
29:19He says if he's not the dad,
29:21Josh is on the Carr show that way.
29:23APPLAUSE
29:25How are you, son? You all right?
29:27You talk, don't you?
29:29Yeah. Oh, thank God for that. I've had a nightmare.
29:31Welcome to the show.
29:33You and Amy, ten months.
29:35Potential dad to Amy's baby.
29:37How old's the baby?
29:39One-fold.
29:41You paint quite a picture of being...
29:43You're desperate to be the father.
29:45I am, yeah.
29:47You say that this relationship really saved you
29:49from a lot of things.
29:51Being a father is really, really important.
29:53Why is there confusion? Why are we doing DNA?
29:55I've had doubts.
29:57It was quite a casual relationship, wasn't it?
29:59It wasn't bad.
30:01At the first, it was just like... Sex?
30:03Yeah, basically. Friday-nighter?
30:05Sort of.
30:07And then it started to get more...
30:09better. Thursday nights?
30:11Yeah.
30:13Then you started a relationship? Yeah.
30:15And you fell for each other,
30:17if we're absolutely honest.
30:19But I guess what I'm trying to ask you is...
30:21You were with her very casually.
30:23She gets pregnant.
30:25You believe, maybe, that there were
30:27other people involved at that point.
30:29What has she said?
30:31Because one of the things that happens on this show a lot
30:33with people in your situation is
30:35people go, why wouldn't he believe her?
30:37Has she ever said you are the dad?
30:39She has, yeah. All through the pregnancy.
30:41But it's just people telling me
30:43that it could not be mine.
30:45You probably backed this up.
30:47She's also allegedly told somebody else they're the father.
30:49At first.
30:51She did, at first.
30:53But this is something you cannot shake.
30:55You've listened to all of this.
30:57You've got through the pregnancy. You've gone to scans.
30:59Were you at the birth? I was, yeah.
31:01And I really admire you for one reason.
31:03I want to say this. This kid's a month old.
31:05There's enough people that wait far too long.
31:07I know it's a difficult day.
31:09And I can tell by your eyes.
31:11If this kid is yours, what does that mean?
31:13Obviously it's my first child.
31:15Oh, look at you. You working?
31:17Well, I'm caring for my brother at the minute.
31:19Good lad.
31:21So you want to be a dad. You think it would define you.
31:23But there's concerns.
31:25And of course if people make up rumours,
31:27whether it's true or not, that plays with your mind.
31:29And you did say, and I don't know what the audience think,
31:31that for the last month it's been difficult
31:33because you want to throw yourself into it headlong.
31:35But actually that's difficult, right?
31:37It's just obviously when I hold the baby
31:39I don't see me in that child at all.
31:41It's a 28-day-old baby.
31:43Yeah, I know that.
31:45I don't see myself at all in her.
31:47I think you're right not to bomb,
31:49but more importantly I think you're right to find this out.
31:51She's really upset backstage.
31:53So the cynics would go, is she upset because she's worried?
31:55Is she upset because...
31:57Who's idea to find the show?
31:59Me.
32:01What's her reaction been like?
32:03Has she been concerned about it, do you think?
32:05She has, yeah.
32:07Will it end the relationship if you're not the father?
32:09So this is it, today is D-Day.
32:11You either leave as a family or she leaves as a single mother.
32:13Definitely.
32:15Massive day, appreciate you being here.
32:17Give her some encouragement, she is really nervous.
32:19Amy's on the Jeremy Carr Show.
32:29I say it every day, it's really easy for us, we do it every single day.
32:31For a lot of people it's a nerve-wracking experience.
32:33Hey, hey, hey, hey.
32:35I know I'm going to sound like an old man.
32:37Sit back, listen to me a minute, all right?
32:39There's no blame really here, is there?
32:41Because you were casual at the beginning, yeah?
32:43Yeah.
32:45You did tell my team you're 100% sure.
32:47100% sure.
32:49Yeah.
32:51Yeah?
32:53Then why are you scared of going out there?
32:55Do you love this man?
32:57Yeah.
32:59Well, if you're right, then there's nothing to worry about and we'll do it.
33:01And you two can live happily ever after.
33:03Come in with me?
33:05Why?
33:07You don't want to, what, face him?
33:09You don't want to face the audience, you don't want to discover the truth?
33:11You have to come and discover the truth.
33:13I know it's difficult, sweetheart, I do.
33:15Plenty of things in your life you look back and you go,
33:17oh, I couldn't do that, I couldn't do that.
33:19Look at me, it'll be fine. Come in with me?
33:21Come on, come on.
33:23I'll look after you, I promise you.
33:25Come on in.
33:27Who needs you?
33:29Do you know what? Who needs you?
33:31He's coming in, he's lovely.
33:35You're one nice guy you are, aren't you?
33:49I don't understand why you're upset if you're 100% sure.
33:51It's just people giving doubts.
33:53People always get involved, don't they?
33:55That's what I am.
33:57Look at me. Are you actually 100% sure?
33:59Tell me about him, what's he like?
34:01Good dad?
34:03Yeah.
34:05He said that it's been difficult to bond,
34:07but he's absolutely desperate.
34:09I think probably in your heart of hearts you think you are as well,
34:11it's just when people stir things, right, yeah?
34:15Do you want to do it?
34:19You know you do.
34:21Shall we do it?
34:23OK.
34:25Well, thank you very much indeed.
34:29APPLAUSE
34:35The DNA test results show that Josh...
34:37How sure were you 100%?
34:43I don't take any pleasure from this,
34:45he's not the child's biological father.
34:47I take no pleasure whatsoever.
34:51That's why you didn't want to come out, isn't it?
34:53I was terrified of the audience.
34:56He's a good man.
34:59He shook your head.
35:01I'm sorry.
35:03Only paid to give you the results.
35:07It's a mess, isn't it?
35:16It was very casual at the beginning, wasn't it?
35:20I only slept with her once.
35:22You're gutted, aren't you?
35:26Yeah.
35:30Darling, you should have your arm round him.
35:34Nobody's saying you did wrong.
35:36It was casual.
35:38In an ideal world, of course this would have been the two of you
35:41with a kid, but now she's got a...
35:44You've got to face up to the reality.
35:46What about you?
35:48This is raw to you, isn't it?
35:51I've lost kids in the past as well, so...
35:55It's going to be hard for me, so...
35:59I just want to go on and move on with my life.
36:02You can't be with her?
36:06You can't be with her at all?
36:08No.
36:09So you're only going to be with her because of the kid?
36:12No, she knows I love her and that,
36:14but I can't be with someone if it's not my baby.
36:16I can't do that.
36:18You admit that at the beginning, it was very casual.
36:22It was one night.
36:25It's just the fact that she's telling me that I am, if I'm not.
36:29If you know what I mean.
36:30I've always had my doubts from people who have told me...
36:33You always had your doubts, didn't you?
36:35Yeah.
36:36But you came here.
36:37I'm not trying to make... Listen, I'm not trying to say...
36:40I have far too many stories about people who stay together
36:43for the wrong reasons, but the truth of the matter is
36:45it was very casual.
36:46You had a one-night stand.
36:47You had a one-night stand at that time, before you got serious.
36:50Can I ask you a question?
36:51Did you sleep with other people?
36:55You didn't help me much there, did you?
36:58What's your reaction to him saying he doesn't want to be with you now?
37:02I talk to him. I love him now, so...
37:07Jeez, I'm not having a good morning. I'm sorry.
37:10I can only tell you the truth, and that is the truth.
37:12I apologise. I'm sorry, but thank you for coming on.
37:15Give him a round of applause.
37:17APPLAUSE
37:20We'll, um...
37:21We'll sort these guys out with Steph and Graham,
37:23and after the break, we've got theft, lie detector on that stage.
37:27You say I believe in Maria, but the accusation seems to be constant.
37:30I need to know what the hell's what before I can move on.
37:33I haven't seen my kids for hours, and I want to go back to them, so...
37:36You think I've seen mine in three days?
37:38I'd like to do it rather than sit in front of people like you.
37:46Have you got a jealous partner?
37:48Are you the one that cannot control your jealousy?
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38:12APPLAUSE
38:16CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:21Welcome back. My next guest today, Carl,
38:23is here to get to the bottom of an allegation that has been made about his wife.
38:26He says that when his wife Maria's arrangement to buy a phone
38:29from someone was called off suddenly,
38:31she was stitched up and left with nothing.
38:33Now, Carl says that he's been told his wife's version of events is a lie.
38:36He says, today, I've got to a point, Jess,
38:38where I don't believe what this woman is saying.
38:40Carl is on The Jeremy Carl Show. That way.
38:43APPLAUSE
38:46How are you, buddy? You all right?
38:48Detail. Yeah! Well done, Carl.
38:50I'm a little bit confused.
38:52You've been with Maria for 11 months.
38:54Well, no, married for 11 months. Yes.
38:56And together, six years. Yeah.
38:59Tell me about this phone, cos it would seem really bizarre,
39:02because I've got some sort of explanation.
39:04Just explain the story.
39:06Well, what it is, is my other wife basically said to her work colleague,
39:12oh, I'll have the phone off you, cos she didn't have a phone,
39:15and all of that, but it's complications between them.
39:18I just, erm, got, well, they introduced me with the conversation.
39:23Why is the phone relevant, buddy?
39:25Because, well, it's nothing to do with me.
39:27The argument is between Maria and the other two parties,
39:30well, the two people who aren't here, haven't given a statement.
39:33She went to buy a phone off someone, yes?
39:36Yeah, she had the phone, and said, oh, I'll part payment.
39:39She was paying an instalment. Yeah.
39:41I don't know what happened.
39:42She was late with an instalment, they asked for the phone back.
39:45This is what I wanted you to do, and I ended up doing it myself. Yeah.
39:48She gave the phone back.
39:51They supposedly gave her money. There was an agreement.
39:54But the envelope was empty. Yeah, pretty much.
39:56So she says, you don't believe a lot of what this woman says,
39:59and I'm going to nail this right now, cos we're going to cut to the chase.
40:02The reason you don't believe her, right,
40:05is because you don't believe her about a lot of things,
40:07which actually is a bit rich,
40:09cos this morning, tell them what she told you.
40:11Well, that's to do with me and her, like, this is nothing to do with her.
40:15There is a bigger picture.
40:17You told my team, it's relevant.
40:19You've got to make people understand,
40:21you're talking about a phone that's of no relevance.
40:23It's not like she nicked... Yeah, there's a bigger picture now.
40:25The bigger picture is you don't trust this woman, do you?
40:27Well, no, hence why I'm trying to sort it out between each other.
40:32You don't believe... I'm not being rude,
40:34but you're not really trying to sort it out with each other.
40:37Do you want to know why? Why is that?
40:39Cos you're on television. It's not my choice.
40:41Well, it's not my choice. Whose choice is it?
40:44Whose choice is it?
40:45Well, he thought he could sort out a little arrangement...
40:48But I asked you to explain that, but you didn't,
40:50but then you told my producer something else that happened this morning,
40:53and you can't blame me for bringing it up.
40:55Yeah.
40:57She admitted to cheating on you this morning, didn't she?
40:59Well, yeah.
41:00And so the reason I do that is because it might sound trivial about the phone,
41:05but it's just another little lie in your mind,
41:07and this morning has guaranteed that you now don't really believe much of what she says.
41:11Am I right?
41:12Oh, yeah.
41:13If she was... I'm just trying to explain it, that's all. Do you know what I mean?
41:17Is it like she's nicked money or lied to somebody, this phone?
41:21It's just part of a whole thing, isn't it?
41:23Yeah, well, someone come to me and basically asking me about the phone,
41:27so I thought I'd be the decent bloke.
41:30Do you love this girl?
41:31Well, of course I do, yeah.
41:32You say, I believe in Maria, but the accusation seems to be constantly,
41:35I need to know what the hell's what before I can move on.
41:38She's... If she has lied to you, well, she has already today.
41:42No, yeah, that's what I mean. There's a bigger picture of this...
41:46The mobile phone's irrelevant now, really.
41:47Yeah, exactly that, yeah.
41:48Is it?
41:49Yeah.
41:50So the minute she admitted that she cheated, is that...
41:52I mean, where does that put you in terms of your marriage? Am I allowed to ask that?
41:55Well, that's... Well, I don't really know myself,
41:57because as it was just this morning, it's a shock to me.
42:00It's a shock to me, because I tricked her into telling me, really,
42:04because I said a random male has wrote to me where that...
42:08It wasn't... No-one wrote to me at all.
42:10Do you know how many times I hear this story as well about, like,
42:12couples who are together for years and then they get married
42:14and then it goes wrong straight away like that, which is really, really weird,
42:17because she told my team I never had any reason to doubt her.
42:19It's just that increasingly since we got married,
42:21it's just little people saying things in little snippets,
42:23and then she, you know, she fronts up this morning and goes,
42:26Oh, by the way, before we go on there, I need to tell you I've slept with somebody else.
42:29Well, it isn't... She never slept with anyone.
42:32All it was is, like, a kiss and contact and stuff.
42:35That's as far as I'm aware.
42:37But, as you say, I don't know what to...
42:39I'm going to ask her to come out. I'm going to ask her to explain about the phone,
42:42because I'm actually genuinely confused. Maria's on the Jeremy Carl show that way.
42:45APPLAUSE
42:52Why are you crying? Why?
42:54Yeah, because you told him this morning that you cheated on him.
42:56So why are you crying? No. Get it right.
42:59I didn't cheat on him. What?
43:01I didn't cheat on him. That's what he told us. No.
43:04Why, then? I danced with somebody and then kissed him and that was it.
43:08How long have you been married? A year. Over a year.
43:11So, if he went out and he kissed a woman whilst dancing close to you... He did.
43:14What? Well, tell me. I don't know what you're talking about.
43:16This is a ridiculous story about some mobile phone.
43:19And then, just before we're ready to do the story, he says,
43:21by the way, she admitted. Tell me what you admitted. Tell me why.
43:24Tell me what he's done. That's what this story is about.
43:26He's talking about a bigger picture. I'm trying to understand the bigger picture.
43:29The bigger picture is, he's done stuff, I've done stuff,
43:33but we're here about a mobile.
43:35Why? At £60.
43:37What is utterly relevant? Right.
43:39You try and explain to me and make more sense than needed
43:42about this damn mobile phone. Go on.
43:44What do you mean? What happened?
43:46I had a mobile phone off a friend. Yeah.
43:51I was paying her weekly, monthly, whenever I had the money.
43:54She said, you know, that's fine.
43:56Next thing I know, I was at the hospital with my daughter
44:01and I had a message off this other girl.
44:05And she said to me that I owe her money, basically,
44:09and I was like, I'd appreciate it if you'd leave me alone
44:11while I'm at the hospital with my daughter.
44:13My daughter was in, nearly to have an operation.
44:15She went in with a suspected appendicitis.
44:18So, obviously, my priority wasn't on that.
44:20And then the next thing I know, on Saturday, this girl messaged him.
44:26And said what?
44:28You didn't make sense with your thing.
44:30Saying what? Your wife's ripped me off.
44:32She's had a phone and she hasn't paid for it. Is that right?
44:34It's to get... Yes or no would be great. Yeah?
44:37I'm sure it would, but, like, to tell you a story, I know, so...
44:42Well, no, I'm just asking you because of her story.
44:45Did the woman say... What accusation did she make about your wife?
44:49I was saying, like, there's no payments being made,
44:51she's had the phone long enough and we're coming to get it.
44:54Which is what I just said, that she's had the phone and she ain't paid.
44:57Well done. No, no, is that right? Yeah?
44:59So, when you heard that, what was your reaction?
45:01Because a lot of people tuning in would go,
45:03all right, so she hasn't made a couple of payments.
45:05Why is that a big enough reason to come on The Car Show?
45:08Or is it, in fact, if we're being honest? It's more, isn't it?
45:11Because I said, prove yourself that you're not lying,
45:14about the phone and things,
45:17and then I'll start believing her and trusting her
45:20before everything else come out, so I was going to give her a bit of leeway
45:23if she proved that she was telling the truth,
45:25because then I could start to believe her again.
45:27You said that you've both done stuff. Yeah.
45:30You've only been married 11 months.
45:32No, we haven't. We've been married over a year.
45:35We got married in October.
45:37I love the fact... 2014.
45:39I love the fact that you've been called a cheat and a thief
45:42and the thing that really got you go
45:44was that somebody told me you'd been married for 11 months
45:46and it's more than that. I love that.
45:48So it doesn't matter if you're a cheat or a thief.
45:50No, because that's completely irrelevant to why I'm here.
45:53I am here, the reason I phoned here is about this phone and this money
45:57because I am being dragged through...
45:59I haven't done it, so that's why I'm here.
46:02But you can't... What I don't understand is, that's fine.
46:06So, what's your accusation about her with the mobile phone?
46:09Tell me. What's your accusation?
46:11What am I doing a lie detector test for? Very simple terms.
46:13I don't know. Like I said, there's a bigger picture.
46:15That's irrelevant.
46:17Because the reason why she was going to do the test...
46:20She's saying cheating and stealing is irrelevant
46:22and you're saying that the lie detector is irrelevant,
46:25it's all about the cheating.
46:26You do understand, from our point of view, it's quite confusing, don't you?
46:29You do understand that you're twisting everything.
46:32Right, I'll tell you what, young lady,
46:34you can shove that where the sun don't shine.
46:36Explain something to me. Why are you here?
46:38Put it in layman's terms and I'll help you out
46:40because you're not making any sense.
46:42Because of her phone and money. That is the reason I am here.
46:45What, because a friend of yours went to him and said, basically,
46:48I gave her a phone, she didn't make payments,
46:51she's given me the phone back, she owes me money, yeah?
46:54So, is it my fault? Oh, no, that's not true, is it?
46:57Because they told you she hadn't given the phone back, is that right?
47:00Yes. Yeah.
47:03Am I...?
47:05What do you both want me to do?
47:08The lie detector.
47:10You've got a right attitude, you have, haven't you?
47:12No, I'm not being funny. I haven't seen my kids for hours
47:15and I want to go back to them, so...
47:17You think I've seen mine in three days,
47:19I'd like to do it rather than sit in front of people like you...
47:22CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
47:24..and doing my head in.
47:26Do you know what? Do you know what?
47:28I have never heard such a load of rubbish in my entire life.
47:31You're the one who said it was a bigger picture
47:33and that this was irrelevant, right?
47:35That what was irrelevant?
47:36He said all of this was irrelevant, didn't you?
47:38Yes, I did, yeah.
47:40There is a bigger picture.
47:41She was telling the truth.
47:42See you, thanks for being on the Jeremy Cowell Show.
47:44Goodbye.
47:50I mean, it isn't easy, this job sometimes,
47:52but really, sometimes I wonder to myself, what's going on?
47:54Why are you here? What did you...? I did my best, I'm out of time.
47:57Thank you for watching. I'm going to lie down in a dark room.
48:00Bye!
48:05On today's show...
48:07You wanted to look like a doll.
48:09But it didn't turn out that way.
48:11Let's talk about the reality of your position today.
48:14To be quite honest with you, Jeremy, I do really regret my nose.
48:17I wish I'd just left it alone. I just can't breathe properly.
48:20I've been told, basically, that the nerves in the sole of my feet
48:25are totally dead.
48:27At the moment, are they quite painful?
48:29They are stinging.
48:30What are you looking for, Victoria? What do you see?
48:33I mean, the skin itself is not in the best condition.
48:36You think you're going to have a stroke, don't you?
48:38No.
48:41Oh, sweetheart.
48:43Of course you're frightened.
48:44Asked your dad and your husband the same way.
48:47Listen, you're in the right place, OK?
48:50We'll do those tests and we'll give you those answers, all right?
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