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00:00That was a highlight for sure of last night's game.
00:03Unfortunately for the Tigers,
00:04they were unable to secure the win.
00:06They took the lead three to two
00:08going into the seventh inning
00:10and things kind of fell apart for them there.
00:14Had a great at-bat from Fry,
00:17who ends up getting a home run,
00:18pinch hit home run off of Bo Briskey.
00:21Now this is where we get to our first guessing,
00:24any move that you didn't like last night in the game
00:27that you felt at the time,
00:29not sure I would agree with, right?
00:31None of this revisionist history stuff.
00:33Okay, because the result worked the way it did.
00:36But you and I were talking before the game,
00:38before the show.
00:39For me, I wasn't sure going into the game,
00:43like this is after the game on Wednesday,
00:46I thought, okay, Bo Briskey threw 27 pitches on Wednesday.
00:50Is Bo Briskey gonna be available on Thursday?
00:54I'm thinking to myself, probably not,
00:56you know, and Will Vest.
00:57Will Vest threw 20 pitches on Wednesday.
01:00Is he gonna be available?
01:01Because both these guys also pitched in game two, right?
01:04So, I wasn't sure if they were going to be available
01:08going back to back days after throwing,
01:11you know, 20 pitches and 27 pitches respectively.
01:13But when Bo Briskey came out,
01:15my initial thought then is,
01:17okay, I would have questioned,
01:19however, I do trust A.J. Hinch completely
01:23with what he has done with his pitching staff.
01:25That he and Chris Fetter, they talk with the pitchers,
01:28they know exactly where they're at.
01:29And if Bo was coming in there specifically
01:31to face a right-handed pitcher,
01:32a right-handed hitter, I should say,
01:34and the pinch hitter in Frey,
01:36okay, that's the matchup you want.
01:37If he gets out of the inning, if he gets him out,
01:40then he doesn't have to pitch anymore.
01:43Because as a pitcher, yes, you have to face three batters,
01:46but only if it's in the same inning.
01:48You can finish an inning
01:49and then you don't know when to come back.
01:50So, it would have been a one and done type thing.
01:54So, I kind of bought back into it.
01:56Because, all right, if it's just one, I get it.
01:59But still, I was a little nervous about it
02:01because of how much he had pitched.
02:03Well, the question was going to be, though,
02:04if he did get out of it, do you bring him back for the eighth
02:08or who do you put in for the eighth?
02:11Because if Frey makes the last out,
02:14you're looking at Ramirez, Naylor, and Thomas coming up.
02:17So, basically, it's two lefties and a righty.
02:20Well, Ramirez is a switch hitter,
02:21but you know he would bat left-handed
02:22if it was Briskey or Vest or Foley,
02:25because they don't think they had any lefties left,
02:26did they?
02:28That, I'm not sure.
02:29No, because Houghton pitched already and so did...
02:33You're talking about Tiger's pitching?
02:34Yeah.
02:36So, it was going to be a righty.
02:37So, he might have pitched.
02:40I don't know what they would have done.
02:42If you're going to talk about second-guessing moves,
02:45I don't know if I would have...
02:46I had no problem with when they brought Jobe in
02:49because they hadn't seen him.
02:52Maybe it wasn't the greatest idea
02:54to have him start the ninth, but whatever.
02:56That didn't work out because they got a run.
03:00The thing that I would...
03:01And it's not on the manager.
03:03It's more maybe on the player or the first base coach.
03:08Riley Green leads off, I believe it was the eighth inning,
03:10right, with a single?
03:13Yes.
03:14About the eighth inning, off a hair and hit a base hit.
03:16Right, so they're down four to three at that time.
03:18Correct.
03:20He brings in Abanez to pinch hit.
03:22For Colt Keith, which makes all the sense.
03:24All the sense in the world.
03:25And Abanez hits a long fly ball to the wall
03:28in right field.
03:29Opposite field, yeah.
03:30Opposite field.
03:31I never got the sense it was going to be a home run
03:34from where I was sitting, but it was a little...
03:37And I don't know the read he had
03:39for either the first base coach or Riley Green.
03:43Why is he halfway between first and second?
03:46That should have been an automatic,
03:48especially Riley Green is pretty quick, okay?
03:52That's a tag up to second base.
03:54Automatic for me.
03:56And I know, well, they don't do it enough
03:58in the pros in Major League Baseball.
04:01I can never understand why.
04:03Especially at Comerica Park,
04:04which is the biggest park in baseball.
04:08To me, he should have been on second base.
04:09Now, who knows whether the base hit that followed
04:13would have still happened if he was on second base?
04:15Everybody always goes by that.
04:17Well, this would have happened.
04:18No, you never know, because the pitch choices
04:21may have been different with him on second base.
04:23But to me, you gotta get him on scoring position.
04:26I agree with you 100%.
04:30That is a pet peeve of mine that I have watching games,
04:33because that extra base is so important.
04:35And I feel like this was a misstep by the Tigers,
04:38because I feel like this is something
04:39the Tigers do a lot of.
04:41We praise them for what they do on the base pass,
04:43because they are so heady,
04:44because they are so well-prepared.
04:46That Jake Rodgers goes from first to third on a base hit,
04:49like it's his job, because you know what?
04:51It is your job.
04:52But he does it despite the fact he's not fleet of foot.
04:54Here you've got Riley Greene, who is fleet of foot.
04:56And I'm with you.
04:58The fact he didn't tag up, I'm like,
05:00oh, come on, what, he didn't tag up.
05:02And does it end up being important?
05:05Yeah, it's important.
05:07If.
05:08Because you put it in the if game, sure.
05:10Because then you follow that up with-
05:12Perez got a hit.
05:13Yep, which would have scored Riley Greene.
05:15So that bothered me.
05:17And also, you could even,
05:19I didn't have that much of a problem
05:20with it earlier in the game,
05:23on the sacrifice fly that scored the Tigers' first run.
05:27I thought Torkelson could have tugged from second to third.
05:31Well, the only problem-
05:32That's-
05:33Yeah, that's, I mean,
05:34because if Torkelson doesn't run well,
05:35the other thing is,
05:36the outfielders for Cleveland do have good arms.
05:39So you have to take that into account.
05:41The Riley Greene thing, I'm with you on.
05:42Maybe Torkelson not as much, but Riley Greene, I am.
05:45248-539-9797, let's go to the phones
05:49and Adam is in Gibraltar.
05:50You're first up here in 97 on the ticket.
05:51Hey, Adam.
05:53Hey, guys, good morning.
05:54How are you doing?
05:55Good, how are you?
05:56I'm having a rough day for us, Troy.
05:58I went to the league game last night,
05:59so yeah, feeling the aftermath.
06:03But anyways, I'm with you, Stoney,
06:05on the Torkelson thing.
06:07I know he's not fast,
06:08but if you look back at it,
06:10on that bases loaded one out,
06:12I mean, zero outs, that sack fly,
06:14the ball was offline at third.
06:17I mean, Tor could have made that.
06:19I mean, when you're in these situations,
06:21where the Tigers, where they're at today,
06:23how they got here,
06:24is aggressive base running and good pitching.
06:27They were not aggressive on the base pass at all last night.
06:31I feel like they should have put more runners in motion,
06:35hitting runs.
06:35I feel like that's something Hinch doesn't do,
06:37but I also feel like he doesn't trust his guys enough
06:40with the bats to do that.
06:42Well, I think it's twofold.
06:43They also don't have true base dealers on his team,
06:45and Parker Meadows has elite speed,
06:48but he's not the best base dealer,
06:50but he's got elite speed.
06:50To get him going, I understand that.
06:53McKinstry runs well.
06:54Yes.
06:55And another thing is,
06:56when they brought in Holton
06:58and Ramirez hit that homer on him,
07:01he switched him to the right,
07:03and Ramirez' bat's almost identical from left to right,
07:06at least with power.
07:08But if I'm Holton, you have the first two out,
07:11you got an open base,
07:12I would have not even pitched Ramirez.
07:14I would have pitched around him,
07:15would have chased some balls and then go after him,
07:18because then he had Naylor lefty on lefty.
07:20I mean, I know he's a good hitter,
07:21but I would have trusted that matchup a lot more.
07:23Yeah, I'm not going to disagree with that either, Adam,
07:25and thanks for the call.
07:26I've said for weeks,
07:28I don't pitch to Jose Ramirez.
07:31Right.
07:32I don't want to do it.
07:33That's somebody else pitching.
07:34Exactly.
07:34I totally.
07:35Nobody on base, put him on first,
07:36and then you got lefty, lefty matchup.
07:38I totally understand that.
07:39I mean, we mentioned the, you know,
07:41the base is loaded, you know,
07:42nobody out and they scored a run on the sacrifice fly.
07:45To me, that's the key of the game,
07:46is the fact that they didn't score more runs
07:48in that situation,
07:49and there was another situation where it was close.
07:51They didn't, it was like the Tigers of old,
07:53where they were so, you know,
07:55mediocre with guys in scoring positions.
07:59I mean, last night, I think they were one for 11.
08:01Now, not that Cleveland was great.
08:03I think they were two for nine
08:05with runners in scoring position,
08:06but I don't care what they did, it's what we did.
08:09But that's just a, that's a missed opportunity,
08:11despite the, I mean, Jake Rodgers hit a line shot.
08:15He had a nice at bat with it,
08:17but unfortunately, it's right at the shortstop,
08:19and he's able to make the double play easily.
08:21And for those that are watching on TV,
08:23you heard their crew, you know, talking about it,
08:26that looked like Torkelson took a couple hop steps
08:29towards second as soon as the ball was hit,
08:30and that's what really exposed him.
08:32I still think he would have been out,
08:33even if he's standing dead still,
08:36but nonetheless, they didn't get more runs
08:38out of that situation that everybody thinks you should.
08:41And yet, the Tigers have benefited
08:43from those situations, too.
08:45So that's just part of baseball.
08:46How about the defensive play Cole Keith made, by the way?
08:48That was phenomenal.
08:49The ground ball in the hole at second base,
08:51he lays out for it.
08:53Yeah, absolutely saved a run.
08:55But not only does he lay out for it,
08:57the ball takes a hop, and he has to raise his glove
09:00while he's diving for it.
09:02And he made the save.
09:03Unfortunately, he wasn't in the nets
09:05for the wings last night.
09:06No, that's, I don't know why you gotta go there this early.
09:09Kenny, do you understand why he's doing this?
09:11Because, you know why, Gator?
09:12Because you did the motion like a goalie would make a save.
09:16That's why.
09:17Gator, I just don't think we need this.
09:19Not this early in the show.
09:20Piling on.
09:20I know.
09:21I think it's just piling on.