The Jeremy Kyle Show (19 April 2018)
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00:10On today's show, you're about to meet your mum who you haven't seen for 25 years.
00:14I don't blame my mum at all for me going to class.
00:21It's horrible. It's in your mind all the time. What you're doing and what you're doing and how's she getting on in life and all.
00:28You say your relationship with your father's gone to rubbish.
00:31Yeah, he basically said to me, if I wanted to have a relationship with you, my brother and sister, my father's alive.
00:39How come you deny her that you're her father? Tell me, because you were in hospital when you were born and you were there when you made her.
00:46I got the boy for everything. You got nothing. I don't want to have to pay for it.
00:50We heard noises when they stayed and there was a stain on my couch in the morning.
01:01She's nothing but a sex-obsessed monster.
01:04Did you have sex on her sofa? No, Jeremy, I didn't. She didn't have sex on your sofa?
01:10Jeremy, my partner don't wear thongs. He never has them, he never will do. He doesn't like them.
01:14Did you have sexual contact with Gloria apart from kissing? When you stayed at Anna's house, he said no.
01:44Ladies and gentlemen, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:47Right, my first guest today, Zoe, was recently reunited with her dad, Sean, after 25 years apart.
01:52However, we've got to be honest, that didn't work out how she hoped, but just five days ago, she then found her biological mum, Wilma,
01:59and she is here, check this, to be reunited with her this morning for the first time in 25 years.
02:06Big day for her. Zoe's on the Jeremy Carr Show That Way.
02:15I know, bless you, really lovely to see you again.
02:20Just, I want to talk about the last show because I want to try and do all of it today.
02:28I think people who watch this show and people in the audience, you know, people shout and scream,
02:31but the reality is that you had not seen either parent. You're 26 years of age, you were adopted.
02:39Yeah. So, any information about them was...
02:43No, I only found out four months ago who, what their names were.
02:47When you contacted your dad, and I want to do a backstory because I think it's important, you were quite excited.
02:52Yeah, I found him on the horrible, where do you hate Facebook?
02:55But you found him and you were excited, you met, it was all right, but then it went wrong.
03:01He started to have doubts about whether you were, in fact, his daughter,
03:06and you made a big point about how, you know, his wife, Lisa, seemed to be wearing his trousers
03:13and he should be standing up, and you came on the show.
03:16It didn't, I must be honest, it didn't go great, did it? Let's just have a look at this.
03:19This is you with your dad, Sean and Lisa.
03:23Are you not happy that maybe you found your daughter?
03:26Of course I'm happy.
03:27Then why are you pretending that your brother, Gordon, or the life of Brad, or whatever he's called...
03:31Because I've been told that all my life.
03:34But this girl...
03:35My family.
03:36But this girl's the victim here.
03:38Yeah, maybe so.
03:39So why are you and your wife being so nasty to her?
03:42I want you in my life.
03:44I want you in my life, but I just need to...
03:46Then why did we have to come here then? Why couldn't me and Lisa sort it out?
03:50I wish Gordon was my father because of his eating.
03:54Did they hit each other?
03:55Yeah.
03:57The DNA test results show that Sean...
03:59What do you think this card says?
04:01That's your child, pal.
04:07I hate that.
04:10Do you hate him?
04:11Yeah, very.
04:12Why?
04:13Well, that was the reason I got put into care.
04:17Who told you that?
04:19I found out on my records. I got my records about four months ago.
04:22I can't go into details, obviously, because, obviously, it's a show, but...
04:26But when you were meeting him and you were excited...
04:29And the reason I'm doing it this way, sweetheart,
04:31is because you're about to meet your mum, who you haven't seen for 25 years.
04:34I don't blame my mum at all for me going into care.
04:36But you said that about him before you met him,
04:38and what concerns me is, and I'm just being straight,
04:40is that you went...
04:42Before we knew about it, you went in with sort of rose-tinted spectacles
04:47and it wasn't great and he has to take responsibility.
04:50I hope this is good.
04:51I've got something for Mum as well.
04:52What is that?
04:53It's my wedding photograph.
04:55I wish she was actually at my wedding, but...
05:0025 years, adopted, back here on the car show.
05:04You found her details through Facebook,
05:06spoke to her for the first time this week.
05:08What was that like when you spoke to her for the first time?
05:10I thought she was actually going to slam the phone down on me.
05:13I didn't...
05:16She's shewing the red trousers.
05:19I'm excited to build a relationship with her.
05:22Are you concerned that it might not go great,
05:24or do you think it'll be fantastic?
05:25No, I think it's going to be better than Mum, than Dad, sorry.
05:28And he's trying to ruin it, is he?
05:29Yeah.
05:30He basically sent me a message yesterday saying,
05:32if I've got anything to do with my mum,
05:34then I can f*** out of my dad's life and not have anything to do with him.
05:38Well, let's start with the nice bit,
05:40because he's going to be here later on after the break.
05:42But a lady you haven't seen for 25 years,
05:44sitting in that pod, crying her eyes out.
05:46Can I just make this point again? I make it every day.
05:49The world was a very different place 25 years ago
05:52in terms of how people had to deal with a breakdown of a marriage
05:57and a child was involved.
05:58And you were adopted out, but it's a...
06:00They weren't married.
06:01It's a clean slate, isn't it?
06:02They weren't married either.
06:03It's a clean slate for you.
06:05If you look through that door, it's Wilma, your mum.
06:07You've never seen her. She's that way.
06:09APPLAUSE
06:16CHEERING
06:22Oh, I'm sorry.
06:29I'm sorry.
06:32Wilma, welcome to the show.
06:35I don't blame you, Mum. Not at all. I don't blame you.
06:41You've nothing to be sorry about. It's not your fault.
06:44What was that moment just now,
06:45or when you found out that you were going to see her,
06:47what was that like for you, sweetheart?
06:49Oh...
06:51It's hard to say, because it wasn't like shock,
06:55but I'm excited to see her as well.
06:57There's nothing wrong, but it's just a shock.
06:59You say she went into care at one and a half.
07:01She was living with Sean's parents in a caravan
07:05and they weren't feeding her. Where were you?
07:07I was homeless. I didn't have nowhere to take her.
07:11So I thought, in the best interest, I'd put her to her gran's,
07:14because he could look after her.
07:16And I was giving him money every week
07:18and I was taking her nappies as well.
07:20You shouldn't. It's a man's job.
07:22And they never did nothing for her. They didn't even feed her.
07:25When your child was taken into care,
07:28and a little bit louder for me when you answer,
07:30you're doing great, though, there are certain rules, aren't there?
07:33Uh-huh. And what were those rules?
07:35You were allowed no contact? No.
07:37What was that like as a mother?
07:39The only contact I got was when she was in hospital.
07:42I was up there every day when she was in hospital.
07:45You were allowed to do that?
07:47Yeah, but after that, there was no contact.
07:49I found out... What was that like?
07:51Sorry, not jumping in, but what was that like as a mother,
07:53knowing that you were struggling?
07:55You'd given the kid to your guy's parents, she'd gone into a care,
07:58then she'd been adopted, you could never see her.
08:00What's that like? How do you live with that?
08:02It's horrible. It's in your mind all the time,
08:04what you're doing and what she's doing
08:06and how she's getting on in life and that.
08:08I wasn't allowed to get in touch with her.
08:10You told my team I felt like I had no right.
08:12I did have rights.
08:13You say, I'll never, ever lose touch with her again.
08:15What does today mean? You're 58 years of age. What does this mean?
08:18Oh, this means the world to me. I got the biggest shock
08:20when she phoned me on Monday.
08:22Now, we're going to go to a break, and when we come back,
08:25Sean...
08:27You haven't seen him for 25 years, he's here.
08:31They met up, didn't go very well,
08:34because she was convinced that the Mrs, Lisa,
08:36was wearing the trousers.
08:38At the end, and he had doubts, and they did DNA, and it was true.
08:42But you say your relationship with your father's gone to rubbish.
08:45Yeah, he basically said to me yesterday,
08:47if I wanted to have a relationship with you, my brother and sister,
08:50then I'd rather have his life and have nothing to do with him.
08:53What's the truth, Wilma?
08:55Were you both to blame for what happened?
08:57A wee bit, because we weren't getting on together.
09:00You see, I try really, really hard,
09:02I'm going to be totally honest with you, Wilma,
09:04because I think it's important.
09:06I try really, really hard to be as balanced as possible,
09:08and I fight to get, you know, we've got to stick up for the woman,
09:10we've got to stick up for the man, we've got to do the story.
09:13I, this morning, when I read this,
09:15the first thing I said to the producer was,
09:18this woman's going to come and meet her daughter, and that's lovely,
09:21but she's also very honest and says,
09:23you've done nothing in 25 years,
09:25you could have done a bit more, you believe.
09:28You've beaten yourself up, to your credit,
09:30about making that mistake in terms of giving it to them,
09:33but you were feeling you were doing.
09:35What could you have done differently, Wilma?
09:37Because I reckon you're an honest lady.
09:39What could you have done differently, do you think?
09:42I stayed away from him.
09:44In his farm way.
09:46That's about the best thing I could have done.
09:48We're going to go to a break.
09:50Sean, your dad, who said, pick between your mum and me,
09:52she's the one that's responsible.
09:54I love your calmness, by the way, you've won me over.
09:56We're back after the break, don't go anywhere.
10:00How come you deny her that you're her father?
10:03Tell me, because you were in hospital when she was born,
10:06and you were there when you made her.
10:08I got the boy for everything, you got nothing.
10:10I don't know how to sign paper.
10:17Are there three people in your relationship?
10:19Are you in a love triangle or want to expose a love rat?
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10:49Thank you very much indeed, welcome back.
10:51Before the break, we reunited Mum here, Wilma, with Zoe, your daughter,
10:54and 25 years ago, you... Look at me.
10:57So nervous, aren't you? I love you.
10:5925 years ago, you were homeless, you gave your kid to Sean's parents,
11:04she was put into care, from that she was adopted,
11:06you never saw, you beat yourself up.
11:08Now, I said to you before the break that Sean is here.
11:11This is a guy who also hadn't seen his daughter for 25 years,
11:15but instead of coming out and being delighted and saying sorry,
11:18he was like, I don't think you're my daughter, I want a DNA.
11:21She, I think, Zoe, was concerned that the missus, Lisa,
11:24was controlling everything. She's in the audience today.
11:27Hiya.
11:28What's that?
11:30Is that a fat thing?
11:32LAUGHTER
11:36Well, you can't be rude about...
11:38No, sorry, I didn't mean that, but... Yeah.
11:40LAUGHTER
11:42Anyway, this guy... Sorry for that.
11:44This guy apparently has told your daughter,
11:47pick your mother or me or we're done.
11:49Well, he shouldn't have done that.
11:51Well, he's here, it's, you know,
11:53you said that you weren't very happy seeing him in her face.
11:56No, but he's not right to tell her.
11:58I have a feeling you might tell him that.
12:00Sean's back on The Jeremy Carr Show, that way.
12:12Right, one thing.
12:13What are you doing going on Zoe's face for in the first place, eh?
12:16I didn't go in her face. Oh, you did!
12:18Ah, you stood up for me. Why do you think you are? A big man.
12:21No. I told you I'd be uncompared to you.
12:23Go on her face again, I'm telling you,
12:25it'll be the last thing, wife or no wife.
12:32Never go on her face, I'm telling you, never, ever.
12:34Don't start laughing at me because it's not funny.
12:36That's just serious.
12:38Isn't it interesting that after 25 years,
12:41you came out with your thumbprint on your forehead,
12:45with your wife out first,
12:47saying, I don't think it's my daughter,
12:49she's been a pain in the backside,
12:51and this little lady, full of spirit,
12:53comes out and says, I'm sorry, I love you,
12:56and then says to you, don't treat my daughter like that,
12:59which sums her up as a parent, doesn't it?
13:03What does that say?
13:05How come... Wait a minute.
13:07How come you deny her that you're her father?
13:10Tell me, because you were in hospital when she was born,
13:13and you were there when you made her.
13:16Why?
13:17Yeah, because that's what I was told.
13:19Because...
13:20Did you sleep with one of his brothers?
13:22You joker.
13:24One brother was enough, was it?
13:26Did you have sex with him?
13:31Why are you telling Zoe, who you haven't seen for 25 years,
13:34she's got to pick between her mother and you?
13:36Why are you doing it again?
13:37Why are you not just saying, I love you,
13:39I haven't been in your life, I miss you?
13:42What was all this about?
13:48He doesn't care, though, do you?
13:53I want to get her out.
13:54She's the one in the middle, she's amazing.
13:56Zoe's back on the car show now.
14:04I can't believe what you did yesterday.
14:06What?
14:07You said to me, either have Mum and my sister and my brother in my life,
14:11or have your life.
14:13Why can't I have all of you?
14:14I didn't say that at all.
14:15You actually did.
14:21What message?
14:23Every message I sent you.
14:24I never got any.
14:25Why don't you come out and say, I'm sorry, darling, I love you,
14:28I should have done more, like the mother did?
14:31Hold on a sec.
14:32Why are you hanging your head down?
14:33This should be the best moment ever.
14:35Why are you not taking responsibility like Wilma did?
14:39But it is, the truth hurts.
14:40No, I'm trying to take responsibility.
14:42But you're not, are you?
14:44You're not, especially after Friday.
14:46How?
14:47Because you're not stepping out to be a father.
14:49I've given you chance after chance.
14:51I've messaged you 15 times.
14:54No, you haven't.
14:55I haven't got it.
14:56All I get, all I got back was, sorry, can't talk, I am busy.
15:01Yes, I was busy.
15:0215 times in 25 years, come on.
15:04No, she wanted me to step up.
15:05I was actually working.
15:06You never answered me, why not?
15:07You OK, buddy?
15:08I'll ring you later, I'm busy.
15:09OK, can I please phone?
15:11So he's made an effort.
15:13Aye, in 25 years.
15:15Yeah, but after Friday...
15:16Can I please phone you?
15:17Please pick up, can't talk, text me.
15:19What, you and me back to the J.K. shows?
15:21I've done nothing wrong to you or her, but you...
15:23So he is texting you, he's doing what he said.
15:25I never got his texts at all.
15:27But you did, cos you responded, you doughnut.
15:29Don't try and lie, look.
15:32Come on, this is ridiculous.
15:34After Friday...
15:35No, I'm sorry, you're not going to like what I'm going to say now.
15:37What?
15:38Cos I've been as fair as possible as everybody.
15:40I think that there is mistakes and problems and responsibility on both sides.
15:45I think the world was a very different place,
15:47I think your parents patently let the both of you down
15:49and the kid went into care.
15:50But why should I choose? Why should I have to choose?
15:52You shouldn't, darling, but I don't...
15:53Exactly.
15:54But you went to meet him with rose-tinted spectacles
15:56and he was a nightmare.
15:57One thing I'm going to say about Lisa, that you slagged off unnecessarily,
16:00at the end of the last show, when those results came out,
16:03that lady who got slaughtered, right,
16:05came over and gave you a hug and said,
16:07I'm sorry, let's put this right.
16:09That is fair to say about that lady.
16:11Before that show... I'm telling you that now.
16:13You shouldn't have to pick,
16:15but I have a feeling that you think that because there was some hassle,
16:18this is going to be amazing.
16:20What would you have done, as I tried to say to you earlier,
16:23if she'd been like him?
16:24I believe he does want to be like...
16:26But you've got to get your head out of your backside, mate,
16:28and do something about this and step up.
16:30She's your daughter.
16:32Come on!
16:34I'm talking to her as a father.
16:37Do your bit. Grow a pair of balls.
16:39Never let him walk and walk. Talk and talk.
16:41Come on.
16:42Can you don't step up and be a father?
16:44I'm walking.
16:45Let him talk.
16:47When did you get in contact with me?
16:49What about sorry I wasn't there, baby girl?
16:51I'm happy you're in my life now.
16:53Right, I'm sorry I wasn't there, but it was a closed adoption, eh?
16:57Right, listen, he said sorry as well.
16:59Closed adoption.
17:01Where were you when I went to the hospital
17:03to find out what was happening to her?
17:05Where were you?
17:06You didn't come to the meetings, did you?
17:08No. I went to the meetings.
17:09Not you.
17:10No, because we had split up.
17:12What's going on? You were splitting up.
17:14It's still your daughter, and you should have still been at meetings.
17:17She's showing passion for it.
17:19I got the blame for it.
17:20I got the blame for everything.
17:22You got nothing.
17:23I was asked to sign paper.
17:25I was asked to give her up.
17:27Where were you?
17:28And I was made you to be the barney.
17:30I was crossed as an unfit mother, and you got nothing done.
17:33Nothing you've said. You've said absolutely nothing.
17:36She came over to the meetings to find you with her.
17:41Telling you now, there's more passion in her little toenail than your whole body,
17:44and I'm going to sit here and carry on from now to the end of time,
17:47and I'm going to give you some advice.
17:48If you don't step up to the plate and grasp the nettle
17:51and show passion, you will lose your daughter.
17:54It's not her fault, your ex's, or yours separately.
17:59Together, you were in a situation you shouldn't have been in.
18:02The system made a decision.
18:04But she made a really good point.
18:05She went to the hospital when she was informed she was sick.
18:07You didn't need to split up. It doesn't matter.
18:08That's your kid.
18:09Your reaction the other day.
18:10I don't think you mind. It's DNA.
18:11You just don't have any passion.
18:13She said it.
18:14Grow a pair of balls, mate, and do something about it.
18:16It's your kid.
18:19Why should I have to tell you that?
18:22You never listen.
18:23You never want to sit down with him.
18:25He wants his life.
18:27That's what he wants.
18:28So you don't want anything to do with Zoe?
18:30He wants to do with Zoe.
18:31Then prove it to her.
18:32Exactly.
18:33You're not even looking at her.
18:35I've been trying to get a hold of her since she was like this.
18:37She's here!
18:38Why you not looking better in the face?
18:40Talk to the better in the face.
18:41Instead of sitting here with your head hanging down,
18:43looking at a flare.
18:44I love her.
18:45You're my favourite guest for ages.
18:48You talk to Jeremy.
18:49You're talking to Jeremy.
18:50You're trying to look lovely before him.
18:51You're talking to Jeremy.
18:52You've never even opened your mouth to him.
18:54My God.
18:55Jeremy's answering.
18:56You want someone to answer him.
18:57See?
18:58You've got your head on the floor.
19:00Because I can't answer him.
19:01Then open your mouth and get your head out of your backside
19:04and tell her what you think.
19:08Even your missus is clapping that.
19:10She showed more passion in cuddling her the other day.
19:13This kid, you will lose all over again.
19:16She's right.
19:17Get your head off the floor and do it.
19:18Maybe you can't do it in front of the cameras,
19:19but you ain't got much time, pal.
19:21No, because you haven't got the guts to do it,
19:22because I'm sitting here as well.
19:23If you don't, I'll walk in.
19:24You've said that.
19:25And I mean it this time.
19:26Come on, mate.
19:27We're stopping you.
19:28Come on.
19:29Hey, you've got a choice.
19:30You either accept her or you go.
19:33Of course, I'm going to accept her.
19:34Then show her.
19:35Go and give her a hug.
19:37Oi, oi, oi.
19:38Put the other one to her.
19:39You agree?
19:40Do you?
19:41Yeah.
19:42That's it.
19:43That's it.
19:44That's it.
19:45Exactly.
19:47I'm going to give her a hug.
19:48I'm going to give her a hug.
19:49I'm going to give her a hug.
19:50Oi, oi, you and Wilma had a kid.
19:53You both have responsibility.
19:54I'm going to go off it.
19:55You both take responsibility and you move on.
19:57But your body language, absolutely everything, doesn't work.
20:00You have...
20:01You can ignore me, you can ignore this audience,
20:03but unless you prove it very quickly,
20:05you are going to lose that kid.
20:06We'll ask the three of you to go that way.
20:07You are my favourite guest.
20:09I'm going to go and give her a hug.
20:10Go, go, go, go, go.
20:12Go, go, go.
20:13Very nice.
20:14See what he's made of.
20:15See what he's made of, this kid.
20:25Absolutely, Wilma, come here.
20:28Where are you going now?
20:29I want to see him.
20:30Oh, Jesus.
20:31What are you doing now?
20:33What are you doing now?
20:36Where are you?
20:37You can't just superfile him.
20:38You've just walked off outside the stage.
20:39I want to see him.
20:40Hi.
20:41You can't...
20:43Get out of my way.
20:45I'm telling you, I'll do all the away with you.
20:47Walking off and leaving the bed, what kind?
20:49Deep head.
20:50Dark hair, floozy, wee hair.
20:52That's not me.
20:53He doesn't look like me.
20:54He doesn't deserve it.
20:55He doesn't deserve it.
20:56Let's take you...
20:57Well, you've got your mother now.
20:58I don't think you're going to need anybody else.
20:59That's not true.
21:00All right, you...
21:01Wilma, Wilma, Wilma.
21:03You take care.
21:05You take care.
21:06Cheers.
21:07Oi, you're my favourite guest ever.
21:09Right.
21:10Go.
21:11No-one's going to let him go.
21:13No-one.
21:15No-one.
21:16No, no, no, no!
21:18CHEERING
21:21Nice.
21:23Have you followed?
21:24No.
21:25We asked Randy Anding,
21:26did you have sexual intercourse with Gloria?
21:34CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
21:36CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
21:39You might remember my next guest from a previous episode.
21:42Take a look at this.
21:45Your daughter tried it on with your boyfriend? Yes.
21:49CHEERING
21:53You're the one who...
21:56You're awesome!
21:57You better...
21:59Tramp.
22:01Get out of here!
22:03That's your mother!
22:04She says you had sex on her sofa and you were embarrassing
22:07and then you say, no, she's an embarrassment,
22:10she asked me to do a foursome and swap with her
22:13and she was wearing low-cut tops and trying it on with Andrew.
22:16Yes, that's on our floor.
22:18On our floating room.
22:20Sir Eve, you're a liar.
22:21We did everything for her.
22:22You're a liar.
22:23Sir Eve's cushions had to be washed cos that...
22:26You're a liar!
22:28You're a liar!
22:31Since the show, Anna says her mum has still been making it life hell
22:34and today she wants to prove once and for all
22:36that her mum, Gloria, did have sex on her sofa.
22:41I apologise for the next sentence
22:43and even less suspicious stains when she came to visit.
22:47I hope she has reversible covers.
22:49Please welcome Anna to the Jeremy Carr Show, that way.
22:52CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
22:59Hi, Jeremy.
23:00What's that?
23:01They're Gloria's dirty underwear.
23:03AUDIENCE GROANS
23:10Why am I driven to look?
23:13That's your mother's underwear?
23:15Yeah, she's desperate to have them back.
23:17Well, from what you say,
23:18she doesn't spend too much time wearing any underwear,
23:21but that's there on the television, isn't that lovely?
23:24Welcome back, Anna, lovely to see you, I thought this was done.
23:27Why are we back?
23:28Well, she hasn't left me alone since the last show,
23:30she's been inboxing me, threatening...
23:32You're a liar!
23:34Your mother's been inboxing you?
23:36Yeah.
23:37What does that mean?
23:38Asking for these back.
23:39Asking for her knickers and her ransommers?
23:42Sex toys.
23:43Oh, God.
23:44Why did she...?
23:46Well, I...
23:47Gloria and Randy Andy came to stay at your house.
23:50My house, yeah.
23:51Yeah, we've done that.
23:52You don't like this woman for reasons...
23:54Basically, it was a bit of an argument.
23:56She's a saleswoman.
23:57No, she doesn't sell them, she wears them.
24:01That's me wearing it, yeah.
24:05Sorry, sorry, who's that?
24:07That's me.
24:08I was taking the...
24:09Why are you wearing your...
24:11I was taking the...
24:12I don't mean to be rude, but...
24:14I know I'm old-fashioned and boring,
24:16but if you ask me honestly, right,
24:18say to me what does that look like?
24:22That looks to me like you're about to swim the channel.
24:27That was your mother's outfit? Yeah.
24:29And you thought you'd put it on? Yeah.
24:31Why did you think you'd put it on?
24:33Just to...
24:34Right, why are you here?
24:35Just to get rid of her, cos I don't want her in my life, Jeremy.
24:38Then why do you keep coming in to tell her?
24:40What, are we doing a lie detector?
24:42And what's the lie detector of? Shut up!
24:44What's the lie detector of?
24:45Cos we heard noises when they stayed
24:47and there was a stain on my couch in the morning.
24:50Why does it matter whether your mother had it on your sofa?
24:53Why don't you give her her sexy underwear and her sex toys back
24:56and tell her to shove it?
24:57Or rather, Andy to shove it, I don't know.
24:59But why are we even doing this lie detector?
25:01Cos, what do you say to a child upstairs and it's just disgusting?
25:04Right, OK.
25:05I mean, Granny shouldn't be downstairs,
25:07stromping on the sofa.
25:08She should be sitting there, as I've said already.
25:10She should be a mother, Jeremy, but she's not.
25:12No mother, no grandmother, she's just a sex addict.
25:14You say, she's nothing but a sex-obsessed monster.
25:17She is.
25:18You told my team she's always chosen men and sex over me.
25:21No mother, no grandmother, that's what you described.
25:23Gloria's on the Jeremy Carl show, that way.
25:35Jeremy, I've got a statement to make.
25:37My name is Jeremy, I've been here 13 years,
25:39and you've just called me J...
25:41Jeremy...
25:42You've done that, so they've fallen out.
25:44Shall I tell you when this part's over?
25:46There's only one person that's picking up that dirty underwear,
25:49and it's you.
25:50The TV says you're doing it.
25:52You're in charge. Who's picking that up?
25:54I'll pick it up, Mr Carl.
26:01Gloria!
26:03Why are you back, love?
26:04I don't know.
26:05I don't know, Jeremy. I don't know.
26:07Well, look, you've said that four times.
26:09I don't know, Jeremy, I don't know, I don't know.
26:11Well, ask her, cos I haven't got a...
26:13You brought me back...
26:14But you inboxed me.
26:15No, I didn't inbox you.
26:16No, I have not.
26:17You inboxed me after the bloody show.
26:19I've got proof of it.
26:20I've got proof of your message.
26:21Did you have sex on her sofa?
26:23No, Jeremy, I didn't.
26:24She didn't have sex on your sofa.
26:26We only went there one night.
26:28One night.
26:29To watch the stand?
26:30Anne-Marie, you're lying.
26:31I'm not lying to Gloria.
26:32You are.
26:33You're a liar.
26:34I'm not lying, Gloria.
26:35You are, you're a liar.
26:36I have all this from you.
26:37You...
26:38Lie, lie, lie, lie.
26:39She also wanted me to point out,
26:41I don't quite know why I should,
26:42that your other half, Randy Andy,
26:44his underwear's in there.
26:45There's two men phones in there, yeah?
26:47What?
26:48Wait a minute, Jeremy.
26:49There's no cut off hair.
26:50Men thongs?
26:51She said she feels he might have had an upset stomach.
26:54I'm not going any further.
26:56Jeremy, Jeremy, my partner don't wear thongs.
26:59He never has done, he never will do.
27:01He doesn't like them.
27:03You do, though.
27:05No, I don't.
27:06But then, according to you,
27:07your partner does wear thongs.
27:09Yeah.
27:10He wore...
27:11He wore...
27:12He wore a tutu for a stag night.
27:15He wore a thong for a stag night?
27:17A tutu.
27:18A tutu?
27:20You told my team her old boy,
27:22her other half is a cross-dresser
27:24who tried it on with your husband.
27:26Well, boyfriend.
27:27Boyfriend.
27:28And that's where I thought to start off, Jeremy,
27:30cos he did.
27:31And he's his cross-dresser.
27:32Cos when I stayed at yours, Anne-Marie,
27:34a week before my ex...
27:35Let's get your...
27:36So the accusation is that she and Randy Andy
27:38had it on the sofa that's not reversible.
27:40Randy Andy, thong fames on the Jeremy Carl show, that way.
27:43CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
27:48Why are you walking like that?
27:50Because the thongs caught you up.
27:52Like that.
27:53She's lying.
27:54What? About what?
27:55Maybe it's not her.
27:56She had sex on her sofa.
27:57She'll find out when the live detector results come back.
27:59Why are you shouting at me?
28:00On the last show, you accused us of having sex on your couch.
28:04Yes.
28:05And so did you...
28:06Carl.
28:07Where's Carl?
28:08Carl's at the back.
28:09Well, bring him out, then.
28:10I don't need...
28:11Where is Carl?
28:12He accused me as well.
28:13Where is Carl?
28:14At the back.
28:15He won't come on.
28:16He's at the back, Jeremy.
28:17Why won't he come on?
28:18Because he's shy.
28:19Shy.
28:20I'm not shy, but I'll still come on.
28:22Carl, do me a favour, get out here.
28:24I'm not hanging around any more.
28:25Move your backside and come out here.
28:27CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
28:40Jeremy.
28:41Are you full of...
28:42No.
28:44No, you last time, you accused me of having sex on your couch.
28:47Do you wear thongs?
28:48No.
28:49He told me.
28:50Do you wear women's clothes?
28:52No, I don't, no.
28:53He told me.
28:54Did they have sex on the sofa?
28:56They did.
28:57No.
28:58Four words.
28:59No.
29:00We'll soon find out when the live detector...
29:01Randy Andy claims she tried it on with him.
29:03Did you know?
29:04No, he didn't.
29:05Did you have bingo?
29:06Where was the bingo?
29:08Did he what?
29:09What did you say?
29:11All he did was sit on the laptop.
29:13Yeah.
29:14Well, he's on the dapper, that would have been very painful.
29:19Hi, how are you?
29:20Lovely to see you, shut up.
29:22Did you try it on with him?
29:24No.
29:25Do you think they had sex on the sofa?
29:27I think they did, yeah.
29:28Nothing but vile.
29:30You're nothing but vile?
29:31We heard noises, Jeremy, and that was them.
29:33What sort of noises?
29:34Shush!
29:35What sort of noises?
29:36Morning noises.
29:37They were never off each other.
29:39Come on, Karl.
29:40You were grabbing each other in the foot.
29:42Everybody come on, Karl.
29:43Anna said you used to walk around with your bits hanging out all the time,
29:46standing naked.
29:47No, no.
29:48All right, all right.
29:49Can we go up in the morning, yeah?
29:51All right.
29:52No way.
29:53We'll find out when the live detector results come back.
29:55Do you believe you're on national television trying to prove to the world
29:58that you didn't have sex in your daughter's sofa
30:00and leave a stain on the irreversible cushion?
30:02Yes, I am.
30:03I am, because we didn't do nothing.
30:05Because we didn't do nothing.
30:06Didn't do nothing?
30:07No.
30:08No.
30:09Ashley, Ashley, Anne-Marie.
30:10Ashley.
30:11Well, I got paid.
30:12Andrew said the greatest quote ever.
30:14He said, let me tell you something, right?
30:16I'm a respectful person.
30:17I wouldn't even have sex in a hotel because that's not my property.
30:20No, it ain't.
30:21It's not.
30:22It's not.
30:23You don't like these two.
30:24You don't like these two.
30:25No.
30:26So we're going to...
30:27All right.
30:28So we're going to do these results and then...
30:29And that's it.
30:30You're never going to go...
30:31No, she won't leave me alone.
30:32I won't leave you alone.
30:33She won't leave me alone.
30:34She says she doesn't know what to do.
30:35She's the worst mother ever.
30:36Messenger.
30:37She says messages...
30:38Listen, I want that underwear gone in a minute.
30:40So have I, mate.
30:41You sent me on Saturday.
30:42Don't call your daughter mate, do you?
30:44Saturday.
30:45Right.
30:46HE CHUCKLES
30:48We asked Randy Andy,
30:50did you have sexual intercourse with Gloria
30:55when you stayed at Anna's house on the sofa
30:58with the irreversible cushions?
31:00No, said Andy. I wouldn't do that.
31:02Why did you say no?
31:03Because I'm telling the truth.
31:04He was telling the truth!
31:06CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
31:08What was annoying, you said?
31:12What was annoying, you said?
31:14That's what we want to know.
31:15Then we asked him, did you have sexual contact?
31:17Now, sexual contact's anything from intercourse to a kiss,
31:20so we could assume from that.
31:22Yeah.
31:24What?
31:25I answered no.
31:27What does sexual contact in your mind mean?
31:29Well, anything from a kiss onwards.
31:31Touching.
31:32Yeah, and?
31:33Yeah.
31:34And?
31:35LAUGHTER
31:36Did you have sexual contact with Gloria, apart from kissing,
31:39when you stayed at Anna's house?
31:41He said no.
31:42I know you don't like him, but they passed both questions.
31:45CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
31:48D.
31:50Now you know what I like.
31:52Now you know what I like.
31:54Do we need to bother any more?
31:56CHEERING
31:57That's your underwear, that's your...
31:59Why are you walking?
32:00I'm sure you've got a thong on.
32:02Why are you walking like that?
32:04Can you be...?
32:05Lovely.
32:06Been lovely seeing you.
32:07Thank you, Jeremy.
32:08Thank you for your lies.
32:09Bye.
32:12CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
32:15Well, we wish them the best of luck,
32:17and, as always, we work with him and the After Care team.
32:20Now, my next guest today, Jon, says that he is certain, certain,
32:23his ex's 19-month-old daughter is not his.
32:25He says that he ended the relationship with Rachel
32:27after she repeatedly cheated on him
32:29and was even caught with another man in a hotel room.
32:31Jon believes that Rachel is now telling him he's the dad out of spite
32:34because his new girlfriend is expecting.
32:36There is loads to this story.
32:38Jon's on The Jeremy Carr Show that way.
32:40CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
32:44How are you, son?
32:46I thought that was a tattoo for a minute.
32:48I thought that was a tattoo for a minute. How are you, son?
32:50I'm all right.
32:51Welcome to the show.
32:52You're only saying I'm the dad because you're jealous of my new girlfriend
32:55and the fact that she's pregnant with my lover and I'm happy.
32:58Yeah, she is.
33:00Let's talk about the relationship with you and old Rach.
33:03A little bit older than you. Yeah.
33:05How did you meet? Well, we met at college.
33:07Nice. Love at first sight?
33:09No, but...
33:11Sex on the first night? No.
33:13Not going well?
33:14Did you move in straight away? No.
33:16Right. How did you...? Well, what happened then?
33:19Basically, we met at college. Yeah.
33:21She gave me a hug. A what?
33:23A hug, as soon as we'd met.
33:25Did she?
33:26Yeah.
33:27And then she went to give me a kiss but hesitated.
33:30First time we'd met.
33:32What, like a proper kiss? Yeah.
33:34You told my team that sums her up. She sleeps around.
33:37She does.
33:39Right, carry on. Rather you than me.
33:41Being with Rachel was a big mistake.
33:43She was absolutely awful in bed.
33:45She was?
33:47In bed as well.
33:49Oh, sure.
33:51So in bed, mate.
33:53But she was getting it elsewhere, you told my team.
33:56What do you mean, she was getting it elsewhere?
33:59She went on a night out. Yeah.
34:01And that was out on town in Scunthorpe.
34:04And she turned her phone off at 11 o'clock at night
34:08and then she turned it back on at five but she told me it had died.
34:11But she rang me while she was sat in the hotel room with a guy.
34:14She was caught in a hotel, wasn't she?
34:16Yeah, she rang me while she was sat with the guy
34:18that she'd just cheated on me with.
34:20I wasn't even in a hotel.
34:22You say that when she got... I was actually in a hotel.
34:25All right, I'll get to you. Shut up.
34:28Get rid of the picture.
34:30Did you plan the pregnancy with her?
34:33No. Did you put something on the end of it?
34:35No. Are you going to use any other word but no?
34:39Yes.
34:45When she told you she was pregnant, were you with her?
34:48No. So you'd split up? Yeah.
34:50What was your reaction when she told you?
34:52If you say no, I'm going to leave.
34:54Well, I was shocked cos I didn't think I could actually have children.
34:57Why was that?
34:59Because I thought I had a low sperm count.
35:01You're 19. I know.
35:04So you found out she was pregnant after you split up. Yeah.
35:07Did she at that point say you're the father?
35:09Did she say you're not the father?
35:11She was saying I'm the father and other people were as well
35:13cos she was telling them.
35:15Ever seen the baby? Once.
35:17And? Why? It's not your kid. Why did you see the kid?
35:20Because she was walking through town.
35:22I am 100% not Willow's dad.
35:24I didn't even know it existed, she, until I saw her in the street.
35:28I've tried to sort a DNA with this woman. Tell us more about that.
35:32Well, I have. I've been pestering and pestering and pestering
35:35and all she says is, I'm too busy.
35:37But how can you be too busy when she sits on her arse all day doing nothing?
35:42And if... So when are we doing this DNA test?
35:45Dunno yet. Oh, Dunno.
35:48As I busy.
35:50Is my name in Willow's birth certificate?
35:53On would have been a better word, but that's fine.
35:55Do you know why?
35:57If I'm the dad, then I should be on it.
35:59I want to be in Willow's life.
36:01But you said you weren't the father.
36:03I know, but everybody was telling me that I was
36:05and then other people were telling me I wasn't
36:07so I was stuck in the middle and my head was...
36:09Has she ever said to you you are? Yeah.
36:11When?
36:13So she didn't tell you she was pregnant until after she'd given birth
36:15then she said you weren't and now she says you are.
36:17Yeah.
36:19She didn't throw out the relationship in the hotel with the man or not in the hotel.
36:21Shut up.
36:23Right, so presumably we're doing a DNA test.
36:25Yeah.
36:27Despite the fact that you paid 180 quid for a private DNA test
36:29which she refused to do.
36:31So Rachel's here with a girl called Jade
36:34who you describe as a total snake.
36:36What does that mean?
36:38A total snake, somebody who goes behind people's backs.
36:40Did she try it on with you?
36:42She didn't try it on with me, but she fell out with Rachel
36:44when me and Rachel split up because she sort of had a thing for me.
36:46Did she? Yeah.
36:48What sort of thing? A big thong?
36:50Well, she sort of fancied me, but I wasn't interested.
36:52And then there's your girlfriend Kirstie now.
36:54How long have you been with Kirstie?
36:56Since the 1st of January this year.
36:58Oh, you look really happy.
37:00She's pregnant? Yeah, she is.
37:02They don't believe that, they think she's making up, she's a lying cow.
37:04She is pregnant and I can't wait to be her dad, I'm so excited.
37:06What have you already got?
37:08What are we doing a lie detector for?
37:10She's doing a lie detector, is she?
37:12I don't know.
37:14You're doing one? I did one, yeah.
37:16Well, why didn't you say that then? Why are you doing a lie detector?
37:18Try and make me look like I know what the hell's going on.
37:20Why are you doing a lie detector?
37:22Because she was saying I cheated.
37:24Did you? I did once, yeah.
37:26After I found out she was cheating on me, yeah.
37:28So you'll fail the lie detector?
37:30Well, you admitted that before you went in.
37:32We're also doing a pregnancy test on Kirstie,
37:34because they don't believe your new bird's pregnant.
37:36Any other tests, John, you want to throw in?
37:38Just those three.
37:40So when was the last time you saw Rach?
37:42Kirstie, you are a liar and a disgrace of a father,
37:44and your girlfriend's a fat,
37:46boggly-eyed, two-faced old trollop.
37:50So this all bodes really well, doesn't it, for this morning?
37:52All right? Yeah.
37:54Are you up for this? Yeah, I'm up for this, yeah.
37:56Excellent. Well, Rachel is on the Jeremy Carr Show That Way,
37:58which will be next.
38:06What are you doing that for?
38:08Because I don't want to be near him.
38:10Was he your baby? Yeah.
38:12What do you mean, yeah?
38:14Why did you tell him he wasn't, then?
38:16I've never told him that. Talk!
38:18Well...
38:20Look at her and talk! It's a new concept!
38:24Why wasn't he at the birth of his father, darling?
38:26Why isn't his name on the birth...
38:28Because he couldn't...
38:30even bother...
38:32He says that he didn't know until he bumped into you in the street.
38:34He saw me in town.
38:36No, but did you tell him you were pregnant?
38:38No, I never told him I was...
38:40I told him I was pregnant, sorry.
38:42Did you tell him when you were going into labour?
38:44No. I told him...
38:46How would he know, then? What is he sort of...
38:48I told him with my scans and that.
38:50All right, did he not go to the scans? You wanted him to go with you?
38:52I wanted... You're still in love with him, aren't you?
38:54I'm not. Well, why are you so angry about his new girlfriend, then?
38:56Why does it matter to you whether she's...
38:58Because she's ugly and I don't like her.
39:00What's it got to do with you?
39:02What's it got to do with you if she's ugly and you don't?
39:04Who's that?
39:06She's your new partner.
39:08No, she's beautiful.
39:10She's perfect, Jeremy. The best thing that's ever happened to me.
39:14You don't like that, do you, at all?
39:16I'm not bothered, me. I don't care.
39:18Right, so you were with him for how long?
39:20Since college.
39:22Who finished the relationship?
39:24I did.
39:26I did, by phone call, and then I blocked her
39:28because I'd had enough of her. She kept messaging me.
39:30Did you cheat on him?
39:32No, I didn't, no.
39:34Did you? Yeah.
39:36He did admit to cheating once, didn't you?
39:38Yep. Is that why it finished?
39:40You look really shocked to be here, darling.
39:42We're here for a DNA test. My question to you would be this.
39:44He paid £180 for a DNA test.
39:46Why did you keep refusing to do it?
39:48Because I just didn't want to do it.
39:50What?!
39:52I didn't want to do it
39:54because, obviously, he got one
39:56and, obviously, it weren't me
39:58who would take Willow
40:00to go do a DNA test.
40:02But you're doing one today?
40:04But I'm doing one today, yeah.
40:06Is he the father?
40:08100%.
40:10Are you sure? Yes, I'm sure.
40:12Did you sleep with anybody else at all?
40:14No, I didn't, no.
40:16Let's get Jade, your mate, on the Jeremy Carl Show.
40:18Bring the things out, please.
40:20APPLAUSE
40:28You're quite gobby, aren't you, apparently?
40:30Well, speak, then, love. It's a talk show. What's happening?
40:32Honestly, I have no idea how he even dared
40:34to deny Willow. I am the only one
40:36that bothers with her.
40:38Talk to him, not me. Why are you looking at me?
40:40Why don't you bother with her?
40:42Because, at the end of the day, I've been stuck in the middle
40:44where people have been saying she's my child
40:46and people have been saying she hasn't.
40:48So my head's been a mess. I've been the one in the middle
40:50that's been thinking, well, is she mine
40:52or is she not?
40:54Well, why didn't you ask Rachel yourself?
40:56Because she's liked me no end of time.
40:58Why don't you sort it out yourself?
41:00He says you're a snake who tried it on with him.
41:02Why would I try it on with you?
41:04I've got my own fella.
41:06I don't want you.
41:08Why make out that I tried it on with you?
41:10I don't even like you.
41:12All right, so how come you fell out with her
41:14when I spoke to her and stopped talking to her?
41:16We didn't fall out. We had an argument
41:18over something that's got nothing to do with you.
41:20All right.
41:22Sorry, I know I've missed the point here.
41:24Rach, you are 100% sure
41:26that he's the father, yeah?
41:28Because she didn't sleep with anybody else.
41:30That's a bit rich, because your friend told my team
41:32you had sex with somebody else, didn't you?
41:34Yeah.
41:36So now you're not saying anything at all
41:38so I don't know what's going on.
41:40Why are you looking at her like that?
41:42It's the truth, isn't it? Yeah, it is the truth.
41:46You don't know who the father of your baby is,
41:48do you? No.
41:50If she is my child, then I will
41:52step up and I will be her father.
41:54You told him he was, right?
41:56Then you told him he wasn't, right?
42:12It's all kicking off.
42:14Security!
42:16Shut it down!
42:18Oh!
42:22This test says you're a liar, love.
42:24This isn't about you,
42:26this is about your children.
42:28Oh, here we go.
42:30OK, more happiness after.
42:34Oh, get off!
42:36No, no, no, no, no!
42:40Oh, my Lord.
42:42I think Felix Scofield has to put up with this.
42:48Do you know someone
42:50who's having a secret online affair?
42:52Are you in an online relationship but suspect
42:54you're being catfished?
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43:18CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
43:22Come on.
43:24Time to be honest. Go on.
43:26What's the truth?
43:28What?
43:30What do you mean, what?
43:32Do we live in parallel universes?
43:34You don't know who the father of your baby is, do you?
43:36No.
43:38Why are you looking at your friend?
43:40I think she's honest. You'd never have said that, would you?
43:42You're hoping it's John because you don't like
43:44the fact he's with Kirsty, do you?
43:46The answer is you're still in love with John, aren't you, Rachel?
43:48Come on. No, I'm not.
43:50Then why are you so vindictive about her?
43:52Because I've never liked her.
43:54Why? Because you don't like the fact that he's with her
43:56or you don't like the fact that
43:58you don't like her?
44:00I just don't like her. Liar.
44:02You're not very good at telling the truth, are you?
44:04I don't think I'm jealous.
44:06I'm going to get the new girlfriend now. What's she called?
44:08Kirsty. Can't wait. Kirsty's on the Jeremy Carson.
44:10CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
44:16CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
44:20Hi.
44:22How are you? I'm fine, thank you.
44:24What's going on?
44:26Um, he needs to know if his...
44:28Sorry? He needs to know if Willow's dad...
44:30Are you pregnant? I am.
44:32Nobody seems to know the name of this child.
44:34I think she's jealous.
44:36You are jealous, aren't you? Let's be honest.
44:38Come on! I'm not.
44:40Right, OK.
44:42She's obsessed. She messaged
44:44Kirsty three days into mine and Kirstie's
44:46relationship, saying I had a kid.
44:48And I'd already told Kirstie myself
44:50that I could have a potential child.
44:52And Kirstie said, well, at the end of the day,
44:54I'll support you.
44:56How long have you two been together?
44:58Since the 1st of January. And it's all going well?
45:00Are you pregnant? They're saying you're not pregnant.
45:02You've gone very quiet as well. You told us she wasn't pregnant.
45:04I don't think she is. What's it got to do with you?
45:06Well, nothing, but I reckon...
45:08She's provided us with a scan. Do you want to see the scan picture?
45:10Have a look.
45:12Aww!
45:14And we did a pregnancy test,
45:16and guess what? It's your worst nightmare.
45:18She's absolutely pregnant.
45:20APPLAUSE
45:26When's the baby due?
45:2828th May. Oh, that's nice.
45:30So you lied to him about he was, then you lied to him
45:32that he wasn't. You lied to your friend that he hadn't slept
45:34with anybody else and you had. You don't like the new girlfriend,
45:36but she's pregnant despite the fact you said she's not.
45:38Anything else you'd like to include in this at all?
45:40No.
45:42Why are you sitting there looking like you just don't want to do this?
45:44Cos you know what's happening, don't you?
45:46DNA. Oh, by the way, who did a lie detector?
45:48I did. Right, what are we doing first?
45:50To be honest, I'm not bothered about the lie detector.
45:52I am. I'm not bothered about the DNA test.
45:54I am. Because if she is my child,
45:56then I will step up and I will be a father.
45:58APPLAUSE
46:02John admitted...
46:04John admitted before the test
46:06that during his relationship with Rachel, he'd slept with another woman.
46:08He says this was because Rachel cheated on him.
46:10You knew about that.
46:12We asked him, during your relationship with Rachel,
46:14apart from what you've admitted to, did you have sexual intercourse
46:16with anyone else? He said no, cos he was telling the truth.
46:18APPLAUSE
46:20During your relationship with Rachel,
46:22apart from what you've admitted to, did you have sexual contact?
46:24He passed every single question.
46:26APPLAUSE
46:30I've never known two people more quiet.
46:32You gave it all back there, then you say nothing.
46:38Aww!
46:40Aw, Rachel.
46:42You've only ever seen this baby in the street, haven't you?
46:46You told him he was, right? Mm-hm.
46:48Then you told him he wasn't, right?
46:50You wouldn't put his name on the birth certificate
46:52because you are bitter and twisted about the fact
46:54he's got a new relationship, aren't you?
46:56No, she's not. He's also the father of your baby.
47:02To be honest, I don't want to pay her any money.
47:04I'd rather buy stuff for Willow
47:06because at the end of the day, I know what she'd do.
47:08She'd just waste the money. She wouldn't put it towards Willow.
47:10How does she waste money? How does she waste money?
47:12Well, she's a liar, isn't she?
47:14No, she's not a liar. She's not a liar at all.
47:16I'm 100% sure he's the father of my baby.
47:18I didn't sleep with anybody else.
47:20But your friend just said she did. Yeah, I did.
47:22She's not a liar.
47:24She's still in love with him, mate.
47:26She's not. It's him we're in love with her.
47:28How are we in love with her?
47:30I'm happy in this relationship.
47:32I think I'm going to create another planet
47:34called the planet of James.
47:36I really...
47:38He's not in love with her. He's happy with his new bird.
47:40He wants to be a father. He's going to step up.
47:42We're going to help him do that.
47:44I hope she stops acting like a small schoolgirl
47:46and starts acting like a mother
47:48and a reasonable human being
47:50and lets him see the kid. That's it.
47:58I've got a lot of things to do with her
48:00and if it comes to it, then I'd see Willow
48:02and have contact with her.
48:04Will you sit in a room with your ex
48:06and work out what's best for this kid, yes or no?
48:08Yes.
48:10Good luck with your pregnancy. For Willow's sake.
48:12Make sure when you pick your friends, you pick the ones who tell the truth.
48:14You two that way, you that way.
48:16Give them a round of applause.
48:18Good luck to them.
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