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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya, I am Muhammad Malik.
00:17The next seven days are very important, both politically and on legal issues.
00:22First, let's take a look at the legal issues.
00:25Tomorrow, there are two important hearings.
00:27First, the session court has secured Imran Khan's decision on the Tosha 2 case.
00:34There is a request for his acquittal.
00:36The decision was secured on that. That will be heard tomorrow.
00:39Then, there is a bail application in the same case in Islamabad High Court.
00:44Mr. Gul Hasan, the judge, will hear it.
00:47Let's see.
00:48In the session court, it is expected that I don't think there will be an accommodation.
00:52But anyway, it is a decision.
00:54Then, there is news that in the GHQ attack case, Bani, PTI, and other accused will be charged on November 19.
01:02This is very important.
01:04These cases are going on.
01:06Then, along with that, we saw the Sawabi Jalsa.
01:09And there were a lot of smokey speeches.
01:11But there is a little confusion about what the decision is.
01:15There has not yet been a specific action taken.
01:18And today, Imran Khan has tweeted.
01:20He has tweeted with his official handle.
01:22He has said that we have taken action.
01:24This time, our people will not go back to their homes.
01:27And in a few days, I will give the date myself.
01:31And if you have heard the speeches of the Jalsas,
01:33then everyone has said that whatever message Ali Ameen Ghandapur will give,
01:38that will be the plan.
01:40That will be everything.
01:41Now, we have to see if this is one deal.
01:44Because there is confusion there too.
01:45Ali Ameen Ghandapur said that we will leave with the shroud.
01:49Then, Sheikh Waqas Akram, who is the Secretary of Information of PTI,
01:53when he gave a speech there, he said that this cannot be one call.
01:56This can be more than one.
01:58This is not a finale.
02:01This can be a series of strikes.
02:03The government is sitting on this hope.
02:06There are two hopes of the government.
02:07One is that the Trump administration will not be involved yet.
02:12And even if it happens, they are counting.
02:14If they take their oath on January 20,
02:17then it will take at least a month or two.
02:19So they think that we have 4-5 months.
02:23If you talk to the people of PTI,
02:25then they understand that this 4-5 months,
02:27which is the lead period there,
02:29rather, this period is very critical for Imran Khan.
02:33Because the decisions will be made in that time.
02:35There will be a new one.
02:36So it is possible that on a very large ground,
02:39if we do such a big demo,
02:40if we jam the country,
02:42then it will have an impact in Washington.
02:45So the power play is in its infancy.
02:48But there is another very interesting thing in the government.
02:50And when I talk to these people,
02:51I ask a question and get a very interesting answer.
02:55And my question is that the biggest guarantee of the government
03:00for its survival is that the differences
03:04with Imran Khan of the establishment should remain.
03:07And the biggest reason for that difference is mistrust.
03:11Because there is also a thought on this side
03:13that if Imran Khan comes out,
03:15then after coming back,
03:16if he sees the swell of his popularity,
03:18obviously, if he comes out,
03:20there is no doubt about it.
03:21Millions of people will be on the streets.
03:23So even if there was a conversation before that,
03:25will they not change?
03:28This is a mistrust.
03:29And this is also a mistrust that if Imran Khan comes back,
03:32then all the speeches he has made,
03:35there will be no retribution in that,
03:38that can they coexist when they come back?
03:41But who will end this mistrust?
03:43Neither is there any guarantee in Pakistan,
03:45nor is it international,
03:46unless we are looking at the Trump administration.
03:49These are all things that we will talk about.
03:52But before that, I would like to talk on one note.
03:55I have asked this question two or three times before,
03:58and I want us to get an answer from the Supreme Court.
04:02There was a time when Nawaz Sharif came back to Pakistan,
04:05when Imran Khan's government fell.
04:08So when he came back after that,
04:09do you remember, he was a scoundrel at that time, technically.
04:12But the High Commissioner of London
04:14made him the CEO.
04:16Then when he came to Islamabad,
04:17all his thumbprints were taken at the airport for applications,
04:22and from there he went to Lahore.
04:24All these scenes were shown on television.
04:26All these conversations were held openly.
04:28Why am I talking about this today?
04:30Today I am talking about this because
04:31there was a petition in Lahore High Court.
04:34They said that you are only showing Imran Khan on television,
04:37so Pemra has raised his hand today.
04:39They said that we did not stop him.
04:41We did not stop anyone.
04:42If he is a protester, then show him.
04:45Now what should we say about this?
04:47There is a restriction.
04:49And when you listen to news bulletins,
04:52then there is talk that Bani Chairman this, Bani Chairman that.
04:56The name does not come,
04:57but we take it anyway in progress.
04:59And secondly, I do not understand two questions.
05:03I am talking about two people.
05:04One is Dr. Yasmin Rashid.
05:06She was also in the May 9th case.
05:08She is 75 years old.
05:11She is a cancer patient.
05:12She is a survivor.
05:13There was Khadija Shah from PTI.
05:15She was also in the May 9th case.
05:17But there is a big difference between the two.
05:19There was a granddaughter of a former army chief.
05:21Anyway, she stayed in jail.
05:23She is an American citizen.
05:24Then she was bailed out.
05:26Yasmin Rashid is still in jail.
05:28And she is in the May 9th case.
05:30Imran Khan is also being indicted.
05:32Everything is happening.
05:33But what I found very disturbing
05:35is that a few days ago,
05:36the Chief Justice of Pakistan
05:37called a meeting on jail reforms.
05:40And Khadija Shah was sitting there.
05:43He is an under-trial prisoner.
05:45And the day this meeting took place,
05:46two days later,
05:47he also had a case in his ATC.
05:49Then he was also made a member of a sub-committee.
05:52Now, the Chief Justice of Pakistan,
05:55Yahya Afridi,
05:56he is known as a very man of letter,
05:59and works on the spirit of law.
06:01He is absolutely right-wing.
06:03Now tell me,
06:04if you make this under-trial prisoner
06:06a Chief Justice in your meeting,
06:09and later make him a member of a sub-committee,
06:12then what will the lower court decide?
06:15If on one hand, it is said that
06:16May 9th is a very scary thing,
06:18and those who are involved in it
06:20should be hanged,
06:21and on the other hand,
06:22you are also making him a Chief Justice,
06:25then why are these two treatments?
06:27Then you should also bail out Yasmin Rashid.
06:29She also has jail experience.
06:31Make her also a member of a sub-committee.
06:33Why these differences?
07:03There is a lot of confusion,
07:05and there are two kinds of confusion.
07:07One is,
07:08the people of the government are also saying,
07:11you listen,
07:12the impression of the rest of the leaders is that
07:14this is a grand finale.
07:16People will leave,
07:17they will leave with a shroud,
07:19they will not go back.
07:20At the same time,
07:21you have said that
07:22this cannot be one,
07:23it can be more.
07:24Listen,
07:25so that we can clear this confusion.
07:27In the month of November,
07:28Imran Khan is going to give us Kaal.
07:30Imran Khan will give Kaal.
07:32That Kaal will be that,
07:33when we will leave our homes,
07:35we will tell our families and leave.
07:38If we die,
07:40then read our funerals.
07:42We will not come back,
07:44until we release Imran Khan.
07:47The whole nation will have to leave
07:49against this fascist government.
07:52Raise your hand,
07:53will you support Imran Khan on this movement?
07:55Tell me,
07:56will you support him?
07:57Will you leave?
07:58Ali Mir Khan,
07:59the whole nation is with you.
08:01You have to prepare,
08:03that the message
08:05that the Prime Minister,
08:06Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
08:08is going to give
08:09to the Prime Minister,
08:10Imran Khan,
08:12we have to follow that.
08:15The time has come.
08:16Right now,
08:17you have to leave for the future.
08:21Come,
08:22we all swear,
08:24that the mission
08:25that the Prime Minister,
08:26Imran Khan,
08:27will tell us,
08:29we have to follow that.
08:31In any case,
08:32Khan Sahib will be released.
08:33Your goal,
08:34Khan Sahib's release,
08:36is very near.
08:38Inshallah,
08:39this time,
08:40we will leave for Khan Sahib's freedom.
08:42Ali Ameen will announce,
08:44we have to give a call,
08:45we will come out,
08:47and we will destroy the forts of Jabar.
08:50We have to release Imran Khan.
08:52This is not a matter of a final call.
08:54Many calls will be given.
08:56God knows better,
08:57which call will be the final call.
08:59But you have to be ready for Khan's order.
09:02I will also be there.
09:03He will also be there.
09:04Will he be there or not?
09:07Yes,
09:08Shahid Sahib,
09:09first tell us,
09:10is this a final call or not?
09:11Your words have created a lot of confusion.
09:14No sir,
09:15there is no confusion.
09:16We have all said the same thing.
09:18I have elaborated a little.
09:20Actually,
09:21before a big grand call,
09:24in different districts,
09:26divisions,
09:27and regions,
09:28there will be Jalsas,
09:30Jaloos,
09:31and public gatherings.
09:33There will be meetings.
09:35And that will be a preparation.
09:38The momentum will be built.
09:40I was saying in that regard,
09:42that calls will be given in some regions,
09:44and in some divisions.
09:46Not at the district level,
09:47but in divisions and regions.
09:49Ultimately,
09:50any call will be final.
09:52And obviously,
09:53the final call will be decided by Imran Khan Sahib.
09:56After my speech,
09:58Ali Amin Sahib,
09:59whom Khan Sahib had entrusted with responsibility,
10:02he made it even more clear,
10:05that this month,
10:07that final call will be given.
10:09So,
10:10the road will be heated in November,
10:12is what you are saying?
10:14Look sir,
10:15we think that
10:16this is too much.
10:18Now,
10:19the efforts for Imran Khan Sahib's release,
10:21should be carried out in every possible way,
10:23in the final stage.
10:25Because,
10:26more than this,
10:27injustice,
10:28unlawfully,
10:29what has been done to him.
10:30Now,
10:31our people,
10:32have become very restless.
10:34The officials,
10:35they also think,
10:36that now,
10:37there is a limit to injustice.
10:38And now,
10:39this matter should end.
10:40And for that,
10:41we have seen the forum of the courts.
10:44On the floor of the house,
10:46you can see,
10:47what happened with regards to the 26th amendment.
10:49And now,
10:50we have heard that,
10:51the second bill,
10:52is being brought by the standing committee,
10:54for 90 days,
10:55that one,
10:56the detention one.
10:58So,
10:59we think,
11:00that we have no other option.
11:02Although,
11:03in the last few months,
11:04from time to time,
11:05many times,
11:06on and off,
11:07in many districts,
11:08and tribunals,
11:09we have come out,
11:10Malik Bhai.
11:11But now,
11:12Khan Sahib,
11:13today,
11:14in addressing the media,
11:15in the court,
11:16said that,
11:17what Ali Ameen,
11:18announced yesterday,
11:19was in compliance with my orders.
11:21And,
11:22the date will be fixed soon,
11:24and after that,
11:25everyone will be pardoned.
11:26And we are ready for that.
11:27Sheikh Sahib,
11:28this is not the final call,
11:29that you have to give.
11:30You people,
11:31are also waiting,
11:32that first,
11:33Trump's direct,
11:34indirect call comes,
11:35and after that,
11:36we give the call.
11:37How much,
11:38are you relying,
11:39on PTI USA,
11:40that it will exert so much pressure,
11:42that pressure comes from there,
11:44and from here also,
11:45you create pressure on the ground,
11:46and then something happens.
11:47Sir,
11:48the Diaspora's,
11:49relations,
11:50and their own,
11:51political priorities,
11:52in which they have,
11:53voted for Trump,
11:54and won their hope,
11:55it so happens,
11:56that their majority,
11:57belongs to Pakistan Tehreek-e-Ansar,
11:59and we are happy,
12:00about their happiness.
12:01But,
12:02relying,
12:03on Trump administration,
12:04for the reason of,
12:05Imran Khan,
12:06this kind of thing,
12:07from the party,
12:08officially,
12:09we have never done,
12:10nor can we do.
12:11We understand,
12:12that we have to,
12:13follow the rules,
12:14of Pakistan.
12:15And,
12:16we have complete faith,
12:17in Pakistan's,
12:18political system.
12:19But,
12:20Trump factor,
12:21in your opinion,
12:22how important is it?
12:23Positively,
12:24how much impact,
12:25can it have,
12:26on Khan's future,
12:27on PTI's future?
12:28Are you,
12:29talking about Trump?
12:30Yes.
12:31Look,
12:32regarding,
12:33Khan's future,
12:34regarding Trump,
12:35I don't think,
12:36that,
12:37I don't see anything,
12:38but,
12:39I do think,
12:40that whenever,
12:41in America,
12:42there is a,
12:43government change,
12:44and a new party,
12:45comes into power,
12:46after that,
12:47they review,
12:48their state-to-state,
12:49relations.
12:50And,
12:51in that,
12:52promotion of democracy,
12:53human rights,
12:54violations,
12:55a lot of things,
12:56come up,
12:57which then,
12:58many times,
12:59in third world countries,
13:00according to the,
13:01regime change,
13:02in US.
13:03I was actually,
13:04asking you about,
13:05Trump factor,
13:06because,
13:07there is a confusion,
13:08that,
13:09so many statements,
13:10have been made,
13:11about your party,
13:12in America,
13:13that there was a time,
13:14and,
13:15this is interference,
13:16then it happened,
13:17that General Bajwa,
13:18and others,
13:19mislead Washington,
13:20because of that,
13:21that now,
13:22in Swabhi Jalsa,
13:23I couldn't even think,
13:24that America's flag,
13:25will be waved,
13:26then,
13:27some workers,
13:28got that flag down,
13:29now,
13:30this is confusion,
13:31no,
13:32listen,
13:33one worker,
13:34thought that,
13:35America is in our favor,
13:36others said,
13:37no,
13:38get the flag down,
13:39so,
13:40there is confusion.
13:41No,
13:42I don't think,
13:43that,
13:44PTI,
13:45officially,
13:46gave a statement,
13:47that,
13:48there is no such reliance,
13:49yes,
13:50we are happy,
13:51that,
13:52the choice,
13:53of our diaspora,
13:54got a chance,
13:55to come forward,
13:56other than that,
13:57we have faith,
13:58in Allah,
13:59so,
14:00America,
14:01was not your enemy,
14:02Joe Biden,
14:03was your enemy,
14:04so,
14:05you have faith,
14:06in Allah,
14:07so,
14:08you have faith,
14:09in Allah,
14:10so,
14:11you have faith,
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14:13so,
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14:16so,
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19:13so,
19:14you have faith,
19:15in Allah,
19:16so,
19:17you have faith,
19:18in Allah,
19:19so,
19:20you have faith,
19:21in Allah,
19:22so,
19:23you have faith,
19:24in Allah,
19:25so,
19:26you have faith,
19:27in Allah,
19:28so,
19:29you have faith,
19:30in Allah,
19:31so,
19:32you have faith,
19:33in Allah,
19:34so,
19:35you have faith,
19:36in Allah,
19:37so,
19:38you have faith,
19:39in Allah,
19:40so,
19:41you have faith,
19:42in Allah,
19:43so,
19:44you have faith,
19:45in Allah,
19:46so,
19:47you have faith,
19:48in Allah,
19:49so,
19:50you have faith,
19:51in Allah,
19:52so,
19:53you have faith,
19:54in Allah,
19:55so,
19:56you have faith,
19:57in Allah,
19:58so,
19:59you have faith,
20:00in Allah,
20:01so,
20:02you have faith,
20:03in Allah,
20:04so,
20:05you have faith,
20:06in Allah,
20:07so,
20:08you have faith,
20:09in Allah,
20:10so,
20:11you have faith,
20:12in Allah,
20:13so,
20:14you have faith,
20:15in Allah,
20:16so,
20:17you have faith,
20:18in Allah,
20:19so,
20:20you have faith,
20:21in Allah,
20:22so,
20:23you have faith,
20:24in Allah,
20:25so,
20:26you have faith,
20:27in Allah,
20:28so,
20:29you have faith,
20:30in Allah,
20:31so,
20:32you have faith,
20:33in Allah,
20:34so,
20:35you have faith,
20:36in Allah,
20:37so,
20:38you have faith,
20:39in Allah,
20:40so,
20:41you have faith,
20:42in Allah,
20:43so,
20:44you have faith,
20:45in Allah,
20:46so,
20:47you have faith,
20:48in Allah,
20:49so,
20:50you have faith,
20:51in Allah,
20:52so,
20:53you have faith,
20:54in Allah,
20:55so,
20:56you have faith,
20:57in Allah,
20:58so,
20:59you have faith,
21:00in Allah,
21:01so,
21:02you have faith,
21:03in Allah,
21:04so,
21:05you have faith,
21:06in Allah,
21:07so,
21:08you have faith,
21:09in Allah,
21:10so,
21:11you have faith,
21:12in Allah,
21:13so,
21:14you have faith,
21:15in Allah,
21:16so,
21:17you have faith,
21:18in Allah,
21:19so,
21:20you have faith,
21:21in Allah,
21:22so,
21:23you have faith,
21:24in Allah,
21:25so,
21:26you have faith,
21:27in Allah,
21:28so,
21:29you have faith,
21:30in Allah,
21:31so,
21:32you have faith,
21:33in Allah,
21:34so,
21:35you have faith,
21:36in Allah,
21:37so,
21:38you have faith,
21:39in Allah,
21:40so,
21:41you have faith,
21:42in Allah,
21:43so,
21:44you have faith,
21:45in Allah,
21:46so,
21:47you have faith,
21:48in Allah,
21:49so,
21:50you have faith,
21:51in Allah,
21:52so,
21:53you have faith,
21:54in Allah,
21:55so,
21:56you have faith.
22:26But the real question is, can Punjab unlock PTI or not?
22:31He is saying it with his own mouth, that if Punjab is the only place where this protest will take place, then the numbers game will be there.
22:38So, that is the million dollar question.
22:40Now, let's take a break. After the break, we will have Mr. Rana Tanveer with us, the Federal Minister.
22:44We will ask him, how is the government looking at them?
22:47The Trump issue, the MISRAS issue, and the biggest thing,
22:50can PTI heat up the road?
22:53At this level, the government and the establishment are forced to re-evaluate their strategy.
23:00Let's see after the break.
23:08Welcome back to the show.
23:09In this program, we will talk to Mr. Rana Tanveer Hussain, the Federal Minister for Industries and Production.
23:14Assalam-o-Alaikum, Mr. Rana.
23:16Walaikum Assalam.
23:17Mr. Rana, Trump has come. What will happen?
23:21Look, Mr. Malik, it has been a long time since we have won the elections.
23:26Trump has been jumping around since then.
23:30But, I have spoken to him a couple of times, just like you are doing the program.
23:35So, I spoke to the media on Sunday in my Wahhab-e-Mureedka, which is a routine on Sundays.
23:42I gave my point of view on this.
23:47You can say that Trump is in a good mood.
23:54There is no doubt about it.
23:56But, this is something that happens between countries.
24:01And they have their own interests.
24:03Some countries have strategic interests.
24:06Some have matters of foreign policy.
24:10Mr. Rana, you are right.
24:12We are talking about Trump.
24:14He said that Putin is his friend.
24:16The entire US policy has changed.
24:21He has met with Noria a couple of times.
24:23He is a different kind of person.
24:25They are all on Ukraine.
24:27He said that the war in Ukraine will end.
24:30We will not support it.
24:32He defies everything.
24:34He has a link with his family.
24:37It is not surprising that he picked up the phone.
24:42If a person says in a meeting that he is his friend, get him out,
24:47he will sort out the rest.
24:49What will you do?
24:51Mr. Malik, you have spoken to two or three countries.
24:55You have spoken to North Korea.
24:57You have spoken to Ukraine.
24:59You have spoken to Putin.
25:01He is endorsing my point of view.
25:05He has his own approach.
25:09It is not like under the law of the land,
25:15if there are cases and he is inside,
25:18then there are courts and laws.
25:21It is not like that.
25:23It is not the era of Musharraf that something like this happens.
25:27But I want to tell you one thing.
25:29To say this for an individual,
25:33and to say it in these circumstances,
25:35you can say whatever you want,
25:37but in the future,
25:39they have their own State Department,
25:41Pentagon, whatever it is.
25:43It is not defiance.
25:45It is his own approach that the war should happen.
25:47He has said that he will not start a new war.
25:50Your thinking is surprising.
25:52Prime Minister was also surprised.
25:54Mr. Sonaullah had come to my program two or three days ago.
25:57He said that he has spoken to the Prime Minister.
26:00He thinks that there will be no such call.
26:02It is an expected strategy.
26:04You must have spoken to the Prime Minister.
26:07You must have discussed the matter of Trump.
26:09Everyone agreed that there will be no such call.
26:14There will be no direct or indirect pressure.
26:18What you are saying is our thinking.
26:21Our thinking is based on a philosophy.
26:25Every government has its own foreign policy.
26:33Every government has its own foreign policy.
26:35Every government has its own foreign policy.
26:37For example, he has spoken about the attack on Ukraine.
26:39He has also spoken about Israel.
26:41He has also spoken about not starting a new war.
26:44This is a totally different angle.
26:48Why are the PTA people so excited?
26:50Why are the PTA people so hopeful?
26:52Why are the PTA people so hopeful?
26:54What kind of a group is this?
26:57Whatever you call it, they are always excited.
27:01They say that it happened the day before yesterday.
27:04Tell me now.
27:06They say that their work will be done in November.
27:08You have heard it.
27:10It will be done in November.
27:12Their big experts come and say on TV that
27:14Bani PTA is coming out in November.
27:18He has to take office on January 20.
27:21Before that, they are indulged in such things.
27:26You know that such things do not happen.
27:29They say that they will come out.
27:33They will come out with a shroud.
27:35They will not come back.
27:37This is their own mindset.
27:39Tell me this.
27:41Imran Khan has also said that
27:44he will give a date in a few days.
27:47He will give a date in a few days.
27:49If this happens,
27:51if there is a call,
27:53if there is a big gathering,
27:55if everything comes out,
27:57then it will come on a big map again.
27:59It will influence the upcoming president.
28:02The embassies here also make daily reports.
28:05They give analysis.
28:07If PTA is successful in making a big show,
28:10then do you think it will not affect Washington?
28:16I agree with you that
28:19if there is such a thing,
28:23which you are talking about,
28:26that the whole country comes
28:28and everything is locked down,
28:31or if you have seen such movements in the past,
28:35you must have seen two or three.
28:38The movements that took place
28:41when there was a revolt against Ayub Khan,
28:44then there was a revolt against Butto.
28:47If there is such a thing,
28:49then definitely it has an effect internally
28:51and also on the external level.
28:53But what you talk about these people,
28:55they walk from Peshawar
28:57and come to Swabi and get stuck.
28:59Tell me, has anyone been able to do anything impressive so far?
29:02And they are serious about this.
29:04How many times has Imran Khan called?
29:07How many times has he talked about do and die?
29:10And today you must have heard about Swabi.
29:13You must have heard what Ali Ameen is saying.
29:16And his secretary of information, Waqas.
29:19What is he saying?
29:21He said that there will be no one call,
29:23many calls will come and many calls will be given.
29:25So you analyze everything.
29:27What is Barista Ghor saying?
29:29So I think you know more inside
29:32and you also analyze things.
29:35It is not like that.
29:37He comes with a shroud.
29:39But Mr. Rehna, tell me one thing.
29:41The government is technically ready for 4 years.
29:43But there is no guarantee for them.
29:45Then there is a guarantee for the establishment
29:47for the next 3 years.
29:49So if there is a pressure like this,
29:53then your one page can also burst.
29:57Look, what you are saying, Mr. Amal,
30:00this is exactly the history of our parliament
30:05or the democratic governments.
30:10Their history is that they do not have a guarantee in Pakistan.
30:14Because I have seen that
30:182 years, 3 years, 2 years, 1.5 years, 3 years went on.
30:22Then when 50A2B was there.
30:24After that, when we got an amendment from him
30:28and removed 50A2B.
30:30After that, for 5 years we thought that it would not be dissolved.
30:35So that was the first term.
30:37After that, in 1999, when the marshal was appointed.
30:40So when you tie him up there,
30:45so constitutionally,
30:47then the courts are ready.
30:50We are ready.
30:523.5 years, 4 years,
30:54the Prime Minister,
30:56what happened to Yusra Zaghlani,
30:58what happened to Nawaz Sharif.
31:00So there is no guarantee.
31:02But I understand that the way we are doing things,
31:05we should work on it.
31:11But tell me one thing.
31:13See, the last election has also shown that
31:16it is not necessary that the one who works a lot will win the election.
31:20It becomes a wind.
31:22It becomes an atmosphere.
31:24And all the work is left behind.
31:26I will ask you one thing very bluntly.
31:28The general idea is that
31:30between you and Imran Khan,
31:33there is only the establishment.
31:35Imran Khan is on one side and your government is running.
31:38If the establishment is removed,
31:40then Imran Khan will take you.
31:42Whether he takes you on the road,
31:44from the protests, whatever the reason is.
31:47But the biggest debate is that
31:49there is a lot of mistrust factor.
31:51There is also a constitutional thinking
31:53that whatever happened to Mr. Khan,
31:56it will come back and maybe clash with his institution.
32:00If they get rid of their mistrust factor,
32:04as there are some guarantors or others,
32:07and if the factor of mistrust is eliminated,
32:10then are you still sitting so comfortably
32:13that we will sit for the next four years?
32:16Look, Muhammad, I don't say that we will sit for four years
32:21or we will sit for five years or we will sit for three years.
32:24But I am saying one more thing.
32:26I think that if Imran Khan's politics were positive,
32:30then it would have been fine.
32:32The way it came in 2018, you know how it came.
32:35It was the worst situation for me to bring someone.
32:38The way you came in 2013,
32:40the same way it came in 2018.
32:42You can ask questions after that.
32:45No, both are the same.
32:47I helped both. It's simple.
32:49No, but what I am saying,
32:51there is a difference.
32:53At that time, people were holding each other by the neck,
32:57in naked uniform,
32:59standing inside the polling station.
33:02You can put a program on that.
33:04Because you know,
33:06you have a very deep connection with my area.
33:09Yes, of course.
33:11So, it's a generational connection.
33:14So, you know, I had a very deep connection with my elders.
33:18We used to meet a lot.
33:20We used to go out for lunch together.
33:23We used to get up early in the morning and go out.
33:26So, but I am telling you,
33:30what you are saying,
33:32if after that,
33:34he would have given good governance,
33:37would have taken it forward,
33:39wouldn't have weakened the parties,
33:41then it would have been a political and democratic approach.
33:44If he had accepted the lack of trust
33:46and would have sat in opposition,
33:48then his situation would have been different today.
33:50And it would have been different in the 2024 elections.
33:52So, in your opinion, this mistrust factor will not end?
33:55This is what I am coming to.
33:57Whatever you say,
33:59he is such a person that
34:01he,
34:03from the place where he eats,
34:06he spits there.
34:08So, he has a history.
34:10And not today's history,
34:12since he has become aware of it,
34:14look at his entire history.
34:17So, I understand that
34:19when the time came,
34:21I was watching on TV today.
34:23So, it was going on there that
34:25from Saifur's journey
34:27to the flag that was raised there,
34:29which was not moving,
34:31it was moving with a strap.
34:33So, it was like this,
34:35absolutely from NAD to there,
34:37the journey.
34:39So, that journey continues in the same way.
34:41So, trusting him,
34:43I understand,
34:45he has a little awareness,
34:47he has experience,
34:49he has a little exposure in these things.
34:51So, he can never be trusted.
34:53As far as our government is concerned,
34:55look, we have to work for national cause.
34:57We have to take the country forward.
34:59Whether it is one year or two years,
35:01as long as we work in the government,
35:03we should take the country forward
35:05from this crisis.
35:07People should get out of these problems
35:09in which the country is stuck at the moment.
35:11In this crisis,
35:13the country is stuck.
35:15With this positive approach,
35:17with this program,
35:19if you go with me,
35:21then Allah will help you.
35:23I am telling you.
35:25Mr. Rana, tell me,
35:27you are right that the mistrust factor
35:29will not end.
35:31It is time for a short break.
35:33After the break,
35:35there has been a great welcome
35:37of Geneva Minister Bashir.
35:39We will also ask him
35:41about this.
35:47Welcome back.
35:49You must have seen a viral video
35:51of Mr. Mian.
35:53They are all walking in Geneva.
35:55Three people are standing
35:57with a banner.
35:59In fact, listen to this clip.
36:01It is very interesting.
36:03This is the family
36:05that goes to every corner of the world
36:07with their own pocket
36:09and gets thousands of people
36:11treated.
36:13Thousands of poor people
36:15suffer because of this family.
36:17They are poor people
36:19whose status is that
36:21they sit in front of their house
36:23and beg them.
36:25Long live Mr. Nisar.
36:27Long live.
36:29Long live.
36:31Long live.
36:33Long live.
36:35Now, there are three people
36:37who thank the person who made the video.
36:39More people
36:41attacked Qazi Faiz Esa's car.
36:4315-20 people were there.
36:45Three prime ministers
36:47and three people
36:49are standing
36:51with a banner.
36:53Don't you have any idea
36:55about this?
36:57I have a big idea.
36:59The way you talk,
37:01there is no such thing.
37:03There is not much Pakistani community in Geneva.
37:05If you go to Denmark,
37:07you will find
37:09that UK, London
37:11and Manchester
37:13have a totally different situation.
37:15New York has a different situation.
37:17Sir, three people don't give a damn.
37:19They don't give a damn.
37:21Three people will have passion.
37:23Geneva is a different city.
37:25You know that.
37:27You need a point.
37:29Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
37:31there is no doubt
37:33that the people of PTA
37:35are very aggressive.
37:37They talk a lot.
37:39Their social media
37:41culture is different.
37:43If our people are 100
37:45and they are 10,
37:47their noise is enough.
37:49Mr. Nawaz Sharif is still popular.
37:51He has a vote bank.
37:53PM LN's vote bank
37:55is also because of him.
37:57I think people remember his service.
37:59Mr. Ghazala, we will know about the vote bank
38:01if the vote bank is so carefree.
38:03Election tribunals say
38:05that there is no fight in Punjab.
38:07That we will make it as we wish.
38:09But that is another story.
38:11But tell me one thing.
38:13Mr. Mian is so popular.
38:15Imran Khan is so unpopular.
38:17Then why don't they let him
38:19appear on TV?
38:21Today, the camera has said
38:23that we have not stopped anyone.
38:25But I am telling you on air
38:27that it cannot happen.
38:29Mr. Malik,
38:31Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif
38:33is popular.
38:35But we have never said
38:37that Imran Khan is unpopular.
38:39What you are saying
38:41is unpopular.
38:43Mr. Mian is popular.
38:45Imran Khan has a vote bank.
38:47He has a great following.
38:49But if we say
38:51that they will shape it
38:53tomorrow,
38:55that they will win.
38:57It is not that kind of situation.
38:59What you are thinking
39:01day by day,
39:03things are going down.
39:05People are getting disappointed.
39:07Some people are getting to know about it.
39:09Imran Khan is getting exposed.
39:11His double personality
39:13or the contradiction in colloquial.
39:15Or the way he is doing things.
39:17People are understanding
39:19everything slowly.
39:21That is why
39:23you will see
39:25things differently
39:27in the next 8 months.
39:31I have my own analysis.
39:33You know that I live in Garund.
39:35You always speak openly.
39:37That is why we like you.
39:39Thank you so much
39:41for talking to us.
39:43It is a very interesting situation.
39:45When you talk about Trump
39:47with the government ministers
39:49and senior people,
39:51one of the senior most parliamentarians,
39:53he is trusted by the Prime Minister
39:55and Nawaz Sharif.
39:57He has been dealing with the defence.
39:59Everyone is hopeful
40:01that the Trump administration
40:03will not be directly or indirectly involved.
40:05When it comes to
40:07the biggest impediment
40:09in Imran Khan's politics,
40:11it is a mistrust
40:13of him and the institution.
40:15They are hopeful that this mistrust
40:17will never end.
40:19Obviously, they blame Imran Khan for it.
40:21But interestingly,
40:23if one of these two
40:25hopes is proved wrong,
40:27then what will happen?
40:29If one of these two
40:31hopes is proved wrong,
40:33then believe me,
40:35this will be a big
40:37moment for the government.
40:39But after that,
40:41drastic changes
40:43can also come.
40:45Let's hope for the government's sake
40:47that if hope is a strategy,
40:49it is a very dangerous strategy.
40:51Let's see what happens in the coming days.
40:53Allah Hafiz.

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