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" Faiz Hamid, Bani PTI, Saqib Nisar Yeh Aik Hi Tikon Hai," Javed Latif Ka Khusoosi Tabsarah
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya. I am Muhammad Malik.
00:15One of the biggest news in Pakistan is that the countdown is going on.
00:20Today is the 18th and on the 24th there is a do or die mark announced by PTI.
00:25The news has come out very fast.
00:28If you look at the news on different channels, newspapers and social media,
00:33you can see that Bushra Bibi, wife of Imran Khan, has become very active.
00:38She herself is chairing the meetings of the main office bearers in Peshawar.
00:44And the big news that is coming out is that PTI will decide the future of the people.
00:51Leave aside the future of the country,
00:53news is coming out that MPS is responsible for bringing 5,000 people,
00:57MNAS is responsible for bringing 10,000 people,
01:00then they have to make videos of their buses.
01:02Videos have to be made from within, not just to show that I have brought a caravan of 100 buses.
01:07So everyone's performance will be checked.
01:10And this is done in a full way.
01:12But there is still one question.
01:14Why did Imran Khan give such an urgent 10-day call?
01:18It's been 38 years since we've been covering politics.
01:21We've covered a lot of movements.
01:23We've covered a lot of big incidents.
01:26No one understands that such a big movement, such a do or die,
01:30and in these circumstances, when the government and the establishment
01:33seem to be sitting in their place very firmly.
01:36You know that the Supreme Court has already been diluted.
01:39The Supreme Court is also here.
01:40The leadership of the army is not changing.
01:42And the ground facts do not seem to be weak.
01:47And there is an uphill battle.
01:49Anyway, this is the decision of Imran Khan.
01:51And the people of his party say so.
01:53Then Ali Meen Ghandapur has made his statements even more intense.
01:56He talks about shrouds, about funerals.
01:59A very large part of the PTI is also worried.
02:03The normal people.
02:04These die-hard workers or those people will come.
02:07What about others?
02:08We will talk about this too.
02:10But first, I want to tell you two or three things.
02:14What is happening in our country?
02:16It is a joke.
02:17This country has become a joke.
02:19You just saw two or three days ago,
02:21Raghib Naimi of the Islamic Justice Council,
02:24he issued a fatwa that the VPN is illegal.
02:29It has become a joke.
02:31And they have no idea of the consequences.
02:34When children are working here, freelancers and all that,
02:37when they go to the clients,
02:39and they say, brother, where have you come from?
02:41In your country, this problem is still going on
02:43whether it is legal or illegal.
02:45So this is a very long-term loss.
02:48When Chaudhry Sarwar and Ghulam Sarwar said,
02:51as Aviation Minister,
02:53that the licenses of so many pilots are fake and everything,
02:56we are still suffering from it.
02:58The routes of PIA are still not available in Europe and America
03:01because the question mark is on the entire civil aviation.
03:05Then we saw that a series of firewalls started.
03:09And firewalls, security things are happening, everything is happening.
03:14According to a conservative estimate,
03:17the minimum loss to Pakistan this year will be 30 crores to the IT industry.
03:21And this is an immediate loss.
03:23The children's contracts will be gone forever
03:26because they cannot depend on you
03:28what is your internet speed,
03:30whether your VPN is working or not.
03:33It is being said that many people are in immoral activities.
03:36And maybe 2 crore people.
03:38The chairman of the PTA, a retired general,
03:40has said in the committee
03:42that when we closed the phone sites,
03:442 crore people tried to go there.
03:48Well, they didn't know what to do,
03:50but the destruction you have done,
03:52who can ask anyone about it.
03:55Then we see that the new Chief Justice has come.
03:58This may be the first incident in the history of Pakistan or in the history of the world
04:02that the Chief Justice of Pakistan
04:04makes a committee for jail reform
04:06and includes such a person
04:08who himself is an under-trial prisoner.
04:10Khadija Shah's case is still going on on 9th May.
04:14She is under trial.
04:16She is out on bail.
04:18We have raised this issue before.
04:20Obviously, it is the Chief Justice's choice
04:22whether to answer or not.
04:24The Supreme Court considers it an insult.
04:26But having said that,
04:28another meeting of the committee was held on 15th.
04:30And it has been decided that
04:32Ahad Cheema has been released from jail.
04:34And Khadija Shah will now visit the jails.
04:39And then she will come and give a report.
04:41Have you ever heard in the world
04:43that an under-trial prisoner
04:45should be put in the Chief Justice's committee
04:47and then he should go and review everything?
04:50The court in which their case is going on,
04:53if the case is so fake
04:55that the Chief Justice knows it,
04:57then first get it decided and end it.
04:59But in which country,
05:01if the Chief Justice of Pakistan
05:03makes a member of his own hand-picked committee,
05:05can a judge of a lower level
05:07make a decision against him?
05:09Never.
05:11So, there is a problem.
05:13The Islamic Rights Council
05:15calls the VPN a non-citizen.
05:17The Chief Justice
05:19appoints an under-trial prisoner.
05:21The firewall that the whole country
05:23has put up
05:25for him,
05:27they are not answering him.
05:29They are unethical people.
05:31And they are destroying
05:33the digital economy of the country.
05:35There is a loss of crores of dollars.
05:37No one is asking.
05:39What is the reality?
05:41The reality is that
05:43the issue of digital is neither
05:45the issue of porn sites
05:47nor the other issue.
05:49The only issue is that
05:51the opposition party PTI
05:53has a lot of strength
05:55in the digital world.
05:57To break it,
05:59perhaps the governments
06:01have to come up with
06:03a political solution.
06:05Administrative issues
06:07destroy the economy.
06:09We will talk about all these issues.
06:11We have with us the
06:13Chief Justice of PTI,
06:15Sheikh Waqar Sakram.
06:17Assalam-o-Alaikum.
06:19How are you?
06:21I am fine.
06:23I am worried.
06:25What is going on?
06:27Tell me,
06:29you have played
06:31a huge game.
06:33If it is successful,
06:35then all your issues
06:37will be justified.
06:39If it is not successful,
06:41then what will happen?
06:43Sir,
06:45this is not just
06:47a 10-day call.
06:49On 9th,
06:51we had a meeting
06:53in Swabhi for the
06:55announcement of this law.
06:57Mr. Waqar had
06:59the right
07:01to announce the date
07:03of the meeting.
07:05We told people
07:07to start preparing
07:09for the meeting.
07:11I said this,
07:13the Chief Minister also said this.
07:15For the past few weeks
07:17and months,
07:19there have been
07:21mega mobilizations
07:23to build momentum.
07:25Whether it was D-Chowk,
07:27Swabhi, Sanjani,
07:29Lahore, Mianwali,
07:31Bahalpur, Faisalabad,
07:33Punjab and KPK.
07:35It is a complete movement.
07:37If no one is ready yet,
07:39what can we say about it?
07:41This is what I think.
07:43The party believes
07:45that people should
07:47discuss these issues
07:49on TV.
07:51We attend party meetings regularly.
07:53These issues will always be there.
07:55If we call after 10 days,
07:57these issues will still be there.
07:59If we call after 15 days,
08:01even after a month,
08:03the same government,
08:05the same police, the same rangers.
08:07It is not easy for us
08:09today or tomorrow.
08:11As far as mobilization is concerned,
08:13it is a state of mind
08:15that we have to stand
08:17against this country's bogus parliament
08:19and bogus system.
08:21We have a right to mobilization.
08:23The people who are mentally
08:25ready do not care
08:27whether it is 10 days, 5 days or 2 days.
08:29If there is a call for mobilization,
08:31people get up in the morning and leave.
08:33The second thing you said
08:35is that this is not a gamble.
08:39Life is a gamble.
08:41You work every day.
08:43Some get good results,
08:45some get bad results.
08:47I think this is a struggle.
08:49We have faced a lot of humiliation
08:51with our old system.
08:53We have faced a lot of corruption
08:55with the system.
08:57After the 26th amendment,
08:59the courts have gone crazy.
09:03I understand what you are saying.
09:05I remember when Mr. Khan
09:07announced his campaign
09:09in Bahawalpur
09:11when the 2014 protest
09:13was the last.
09:15He kept a gap of 40 days
09:17and you did not have anyone
09:19to support you.
09:21The party was united
09:23and the establishment
09:25was tacitly supporting you.
09:27Even after that,
09:29it took 40 days
09:31to create a momentum
09:33and make Islamabad rich.
09:35Your party is now
09:37in a grouping.
09:39We can see the grouping.
09:41The statements of Bushra Bibi
09:43have also said
09:45that this is a matter of Imran Khan.
09:47I would like to tell you
09:49a short story.
09:51Shah Mahmood Qureshi,
09:53who is your Vice-Chairman,
09:55has spoken very eloquently.
09:57He has been in office for a year.
09:59You can see
10:01in your leadership
10:03that there are serious differences.
10:05Listen to what he has to say.
10:07He has mentioned you as well.
10:09The leadership of BTI
10:11is outside.
10:13I would like to request
10:15Mr. Salman Akram Raja,
10:17Mr. Umar Ayub Khan,
10:19and Mr. Jaish-e-Quaqas Akram
10:21that if their time allows,
10:23they should come
10:25to the court
10:27within a year and a half.
10:29Dr. Yasmeen Rashid,
10:31Mr. Ijaz Chaudhary,
10:33Mr. Mian Mahmood Rashid,
10:35Mr. Umar Faraz Cheema
10:37should take some input
10:39from us as well.
10:41I would like to request
10:43all the political parties
10:45who have a common interest
10:47in different issues
10:49such as the rule of law,
10:51independent judiciary,
10:53human rights,
10:55and the constitution,
10:57to engage with them
10:59and build a consensus
11:01on a common minimum agenda.
11:05Very sarcastically,
11:07in a polite manner,
11:09I would request
11:11Mr. Mian Mahmood Rashid
11:13to take some input
11:15from us as well.
11:17Mr. Sheikh,
11:19you can also ask
11:21the other parties
11:23to take some input
11:25from you as well.
11:27First of all,
11:29Mr. Shah Mahmood,
11:31are you not a party
11:33vice-chairman?
11:35You are openly sarcastic.
11:37Please do not say
11:39that he was not sarcastic.
11:41First of all,
11:43Mr. Shah Mahmood
11:45is our vice-chairman
11:47and he is respectable for us.
11:49He has a good opinion
11:51and he is right.
11:53The responsible parties
11:55should engage with him
11:57as soon as possible.
11:59His son was our deputy
12:01parliamentary leader
12:03and his opinion
12:05is our MNA.
12:07I myself told Zain
12:09to meet Mr. Shah.
12:11I said this in a program yesterday as well.
12:13There are 10 crises.
12:15One crisis ends and the other begins.
12:17During this time,
12:19the main responsible parties
12:21could not meet
12:23in the jail in Lahore.
12:25But when they were
12:27present in Pindi,
12:29there were meetings.
12:31Their complaint
12:33was justified.
12:35They said
12:37that there should be a consensus
12:39with the other parties.
12:41We tried our best
12:43with Mr. Fazl-ur-Rehman
12:45and we have a long history.
12:47Despite this,
12:49we tried to stop the vote
12:51regarding the 26th amendment.
12:53Unfortunately,
12:55we went to him
12:57again and again.
12:59He was torn down
13:01and he voted for the 26th amendment.
13:03But we did not disengage.
13:05We are engaging with the GDA.
13:07Mr. Kaisar was saying
13:09that we are engaging with them
13:11on the 20th and 21st.
13:13But you are doing this
13:15after announcing to everyone.
13:17You announced earlier
13:19that you will come.
13:21You did it later.
13:23You did not even tell Mr. Achakzai
13:25that you had formed an alliance.
13:27He has no way.
13:29There are two things.
13:31This call
13:33is of Imran Khan.
13:35When Mr. Imran Khan
13:37gives a call,
13:39then the rest of the things
13:41do not matter to us.
13:43He keeps the order.
13:45When he said
13:47that you have to come,
13:49he gave the date.
13:51After giving the date,
13:53we do not have any restriction
13:55on anyone else.
13:57Imran Khan is the leader
13:59of this party.
14:01Yes, we have tried in the past.
14:03Even before Mr. Khan's announcement,
14:05Mr. Kaisar
14:07went to Maulana
14:09after the event.
14:11He met Maulana.
14:13Your TV showed it.
14:15Many things were discussed with him.
14:17But at the end of the day,
14:19independent parties make their decisions.
14:21We have engaged Maulana for 10 days.
14:23He voted for the 26th amendment.
14:25What can I say?
14:27The Bushra Bibi you are leading,
14:29if you ask my personal opinion,
14:31I think it is good for your party.
14:33If there is a Bushra Bibi
14:35or a member of the Aleema Khan family,
14:37then people will have more confidence.
14:39But your stance
14:41of a constant Morsi politician,
14:43of Imran Khan,
14:45does not negate him?
14:47Will you not have to listen to him
14:49in the future?
14:51No, no.
14:53I will not listen to him.
14:55He does not negate him at all.
14:57I was present at the meeting.
14:59I had the mask.
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27:01The people who run the business don't have as much money as the bankrupt people of the Sharif family.
27:09In A1 field, apartments, Rolls Royces, BMWs.
27:13And we found out yesterday that they have gone bankrupt.
27:19By the way, Mr. Malik,
27:21please congratulate someone else who has no business and is living a more luxurious life.
27:29Congratulations to them as well.
27:33They run the business and have gone bankrupt.
27:36But congratulations to those who are living a better life than them.
27:40And they have no business as well.
27:43That's right.
27:45Tell me, there are only 5 days left on 24th.
27:50Do you think you will be able to handle it?
27:54Look, Mr. Malik, the problem is not about handling it.
28:02The problem is that the call for 10 days was not written so easily.
28:08These are multiple issues,
28:11because of which they had to be called immediately.
28:18And unfortunately, our administrative structure has become so weak in the last 5-6 years.
28:29And especially in the last 4 years, it has been destroyed.
28:34Now, I don't know who makes the policies.
28:39But I do know that for 100 people, 1000 people are appointed to stop them.
28:47And thirdly, there are multiple issues.
28:51Mr. Malik, you are talking about the detainees,
28:59but you are not talking about the other detainees, which is also very important.
29:04And because of the facilitation that has been provided,
29:08many things have been exposed.
29:12Or if there is evidence, it has been arrested.
29:15Mr. Malik, why not just you? Why not me?
29:23And why not my release? Why only your release?
29:26And secondly, I think that...
29:29One second, one second.
29:31You are talking about the other detainee.
29:33I see two very important people.
29:36One is Mr. Khan himself.
29:38I will be very blunt.
29:40Are you talking about General Faiz Ameed?
29:43Because I have heard that he is going to be judged.
29:45I don't understand his link.
29:47You are talking about General Faiz Ameed.
29:49Please explain to me about General Faiz Ameed.
29:51What does he have to do with this?
29:53Look, the thing is that General Faiz Ameed,
29:58Imran Khan, Justice Saqib Nisar,
30:03these are the same people.
30:06And if someone asks you how you connect these three people,
30:13I think your time will be wasted.
30:15Everyone knows that.
30:17And you are also aware, while saving your time,
30:22that was General Faiz Ameed not a facilitator?
30:25And the people who were under his influence,
30:29did they not facilitate later as well?
30:33And the people who were under Saqib Nisar's influence,
30:36were they not facilitators?
30:38They were for sure.
30:40And similarly, I am daring to say one more thing in front of you.
30:44Whenever I say that there is a pressure of international forces,
30:49then I get the answer that this pressure of international forces
30:53has been there at different times.
30:55They say that it was for Nawaz Shaikh,
30:58for Zulfiqar-e-Bhutto,
31:00for Benazir Bhutto.
31:02It was there.
31:04But which forces or which states spoke for them
31:09when they were arrested?
31:12And today, on the arrest of a person,
31:16talks are being held in Europe or America,
31:19or the Congress is writing letters there,
31:22or is making a fuss.
31:25For whom are they doing it?
31:27Look, there is no other state like ours in the world.
31:31We protect the interests of others,
31:34but other states make policies for their own interests.
31:38But one thing, Mr. Niaz, you have said a very important thing.
31:41Let me finish that first.
31:43On the 24th, everything will happen.
31:45And everything happens.
31:46There will be a big procession.
31:47Even if it doesn't happen,
31:48then the way you have put a container and closed the city,
31:51then the movement will be successful anyway.
31:53Because if the aim is to close the city,
31:56then before PTI, your government will close it.
31:59I agree with you.
32:00They will close the city themselves.
32:02Explain to me,
32:03if there is a big show on the 24th,
32:06what will Faiz Hamid benefit from it?
32:08What difference will it make to him?
32:09He is undergoing a military trial.
32:11His decisions will be made from there.
32:13What benefit will he get from it?
32:16Look, Mr. Mohammad Malik,
32:19these two personalities,
32:22these outsiders like you,
32:25have more influence than them.
32:28And they are more powerful than the outsiders.
32:32And that is because of facilitation.
32:34Now let's come to what I wanted to say,
32:38that the world powers have been pressurizing for 77 years.
32:44But a portion of them,
32:46or a little pressure,
32:49has increased today.
32:50Because of the weakness of our economy.
32:52Your government will take a lot of weight.
32:56Yes, I would like to say the same.
32:59The pressure that has been put on other states,
33:04and other people,
33:06was that for Pakistan,
33:09who served,
33:10was Liaquat Ali Khan to Nawaz Sharif.
33:13Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto is one of them.
33:15Benazir Bhutto is also one of them.
33:17But the person who is under pressure today,
33:21and whether anyone expresses it or not,
33:24but I am doing it,
33:25that there is pressure.
33:27Has this person done anything for Pakistan,
33:32that the Pakistani people should be proud of?
33:35Yes.
33:36What I said that those powers,
33:39or those states,
33:40are putting pressure on Pakistan.
33:43Whether it is for Nawaz Sharif,
33:45or for today's person,
33:47they are putting pressure.
33:49Everyone looks at their own interests.
33:52The friends of Nawaz Sharif were those,
33:55who wanted to see Pakistan flourishing.
33:59Imran Khan's states are in action,
34:04who want to see Pakistan under threat.
34:07Mr. Niaz, tell me one thing.
34:11Your largest trading partner is America.
34:15In the IMF, America made you hard,
34:20soft, but it couldn't be done without it.
34:23So now the pressure is coming from America.
34:26In England, in the UK,
34:29about 26 MPs wrote a letter,
34:33in which their Foreign Minister replied,
34:35that we are very concerned.
34:37We are watching.
34:38So with the UK,
34:40you are one of the important partners in every way.
34:43So you are saying that America,
34:45which is your largest trading partner,
34:47without which the IMF would not have happened,
34:49is working against you?
34:51Is this what your government is thinking?
34:53No.
34:54No, Mr. Malik.
34:56I want to say that,
34:59you yourself mentioned a financial institution.
35:04All the financial institutions operating in Pakistan,
35:08on what strict conditions,
35:10did they finalize things from you?
35:14Number one.
35:15Number two is,
35:16that did Imran Khan not wave the cypher?
35:20And did Imran Khan not wave the cypher and say,
35:23that we are slaves?
35:25Then tell me,
35:26that the state that was abused,
35:29from that state,
35:31why will there be pressure for Imran Khan?
35:33I spoke to you,
35:35that those states protect their interests.
35:38Sir, the Donald Lu,
35:40the Donald Lu you are talking about,
35:43the same Donald Lu,
35:45in his house committee,
35:47while giving a statement,
35:49said that the elections in Pakistan in February,
35:51were not free and fair.
35:56Okay.
35:57Mr. Malik,
35:58tell me,
35:59that those who did not see the elections in February 8, 2024,
36:03as fair and free,
36:05did they see the 2018 elections as fair and free?
36:08Number two.
36:09Number three is,
36:11that those who got the 2018 elections,
36:14got the 2024 elections.
36:17And then tell me,
36:19that the government that was formed,
36:22as a result of the 2018 elections,
36:25which kept the CPEC closed,
36:27regarding that government,
36:29from Europe,
36:30from America,
36:31such statements came in 8 months,
36:34which came in these 8 months.
36:36What is the reason?
36:37For whom do they speak?
36:39And why do they do it?
36:41I should understand this as a Pakistani.
36:44And if I don't understand these things,
36:48then my commitment to Pakistan is doubtful.
36:52Okay, let's talk about this,
36:53but first tell me one thing,
36:55you must have heard Mr. Imran Khan's statement,
36:58when the call has just come out,
37:00then there is also his Guardian interview,
37:02it is very clearly visible,
37:04that he said that we will talk,
37:07and he expects the military leadership to talk to him.
37:10Do you think,
37:12the military leadership will talk to the PTI,
37:15if the 2024 PTI show is good,
37:18if the city is closed,
37:20you don't have to close it,
37:21but let's say the city is closed,
37:23or a protest starts in Islamabad,
37:25do you think the military leadership will be forced to talk to Mr. Imran Khan?
37:31Mr. Malik, the first thing is,
37:33that this is a negation of his own statement,
37:36on which he voted in the elections on 8th February 2024.
37:41He misled the simple people.
37:44On one hand, he is saying,
37:46that we can't see the working institutions,
37:51or the people sitting in the institutions,
37:54going against the law in any way,
37:57that's why we are fighting for freedom.
38:00Oh brother, if you mislead the people at that time,
38:03you are misleading the people.
38:07If you don't have an establishment today,
38:12then you people won't survive.
38:15This is a fact.
38:17You can't walk without them.
38:19My question is simple.
38:21What is your guess,
38:23that if the 2024 PTI show is successful,
38:26will the military leadership be forced to talk to Imran Khan?
38:31Look, Mr. Malik,
38:32first of all, if you believe,
38:34that these are the ground realities,
38:37then the misleading that he is doing to the people,
38:40the violation of the law,
38:42and the slogans of Al-Jihad,
38:44or we will take freedom,
38:46or we will come with a shroud over our heads,
38:49then all those things are wrong.
38:51This should be cleared by the people first.
38:53Now let's come to the ground realities.
38:55I am very clear, Mr. Malik,
38:57that the people sitting in the institutions,
38:59even today,
39:01some people are facilitating.
39:05Otherwise, it is not possible,
39:07that a Khaibar Pakhtunkhwa,
39:10the minister of Allah,
39:12repeatedly raises his voice against Wafaaq,
39:14and disappears in Islamabad,
39:16and is said to be a missing person.
39:21And sometimes that missing person is seen after 8 hours,
39:24and sometimes after 24 hours.
39:27And that missing person goes again,
39:29and talks to him badly,
39:31or talks to him harshly,
39:34and no one is asking him.
39:36My point is beyond understanding.
39:38I cannot understand,
39:40that if you are fighting against the establishment,
39:44and while fighting,
39:46you say that 800 cases have been filed,
39:4910,000 people have been arrested,
39:51as they say 10,000,
39:53every ticket holder of the National Assembly,
39:55or MNA,
39:57and 5,000-5,000 MPA,
39:59and 1000 MNA,
40:01and 500 MPA,
40:03if they come from all over Pakistan,
40:07then this number is more than lakhs.
40:11And if you take 10,000 or 5,000,
40:14then it goes to crores.
40:16Who are you fooling?
40:18And who are you putting pressure on?
40:20Who are you telling,
40:22that we are so many people,
40:24that we don't have a crowd of more than 2,000-4,000.
40:28And if a smart person,
40:30if he plans,
40:32and yes,
40:34look,
40:36with how much planning,
40:38General Faiz Ameed,
40:40kept dealing with us for 4 years,
40:42how he destroyed us,
40:44injured us,
40:46and didn't even let it be mentioned in the media.
40:52But he has been kept like a flower,
40:55and the local hens are running,
40:57and he is the victim,
40:59and we are the oppressors.
41:01And you say,
41:03what kind of a government is this?
41:05Will this government be able to tolerate it?
41:07You have said such a big thing,
41:09that some people from within the institution,
41:12are supporting him,
41:14are supporting him,
41:16so what are you saying,
41:18that the Salars,
41:20can be given to people,
41:22who can work on their own.
41:24Look, Mr. Malik,
41:26if you want to assess your grip,
41:28then you can assess it from this,
41:30that the results of 8th February,
41:32which were made with pick and choose,
41:36and I am saying this again and again,
41:40that just look at the Lahore Division,
41:42that how much money,
41:44which influential person,
41:46has taken,
41:48or the form 47,
41:50has been handed over to those,
41:52who today say,
41:54that we will not discuss the form 47,
41:56with the current government.
41:58So all the evidence is here,
42:00no one is ready to look at it.
42:02And in the same way,
42:04I am saying this again today,
42:06that at different places,
42:08different influential people,
42:10who are present in the administrative branch,
42:12they are Faiz Ameed's Faiz Yaab,
42:14they are Saqib Nisar's Faiz Yaab,
42:16all this is happening,
42:18but no one is ready to look at it.
42:20You and I keep talking.
42:22Let's take a break from talking.
42:24I am being asked to take a break.
42:26After the break,
42:28let's ask Mr. Mian some more questions.
42:30Stay with us.
42:36Welcome back to the show.
42:38Mr. Mian, tell me one thing,
42:40the biggest threat to me is that
42:42violence can be very high this time.
42:44Mr. Chaudhary has said that
42:46we are coming,
42:48and you can perform the funeral
42:50if you don't come back,
42:52and there are bloodshed,
42:54and Mr. Rana Sanawla and others
42:56have said that let them come,
42:58we have also brought flowers for them.
43:00We will do this, we will do that.
43:02There is a very high temperature
43:04on both sides at the moment.
43:06God forbid, if there is a clash
43:08at more than one place,
43:10and people are killed,
43:12whether it is the police
43:14or the people of the procession,
43:16then this can be very harmful.
43:18What are your views on this?
43:24Look, Mr. Malik,
43:26in the last four years of
43:28Imran Khan,
43:30you have seen protests.
43:32When Maulana Fazlur Rahman
43:34did the long march,
43:36you must remember that
43:38he prepared for three to four months
43:40in all four provinces,
43:42and then went somewhere
43:44to collect the crowd,
43:46and he did a big show.
43:48In ten days,
43:50what can be a big show?
43:52There is no preparation in ten days.
43:54You can say that 20,000 people
43:56will come, 10,000 people will come.
43:58This is not a shop.
44:00You will give money from there
44:02and buy things and bring them.
44:04How can you bring people
44:06without mentally preparing them?
44:08You can say that
44:10a few thousand people
44:12will come.
44:14I will say hundreds,
44:16but there will be a few thousand
44:18who will be well-trained.
44:20Many of the 6,000 people
44:22who had left will also be included.
44:24People will also come
44:26from your border cross.
44:28The only reason is that
44:30they want some corpses to fall
44:32and we show the world
44:34how human rights are being violated here,
44:36although they do not remember
44:38the human rights in Palestine.
44:40The government's intentions
44:42do not seem to be
44:44trying to calm the situation.
44:46If you think they want
44:48the corpses to fall,
44:50then your people
44:52are also ready to fall.
44:54No, tell me,
44:56if they come and
44:58take over here,
45:00as they have done before,
45:02then who will answer them?
45:04If someone attacks
45:06your GHQ,
45:08if someone targets
45:10your organizations,
45:12as they say,
45:14if we are stopped
45:16at one place,
45:18then we will attack
45:20at another place.
45:22And today,
45:24I am hearing
45:26that there will be
45:28attackers from all sides
45:30of Islamabad.
45:32They can attack the state
45:34or their enemies.
45:36I am seeing for the first time
45:38that such an attack
45:40is being carried out
45:42by the people of the state.
45:44Then you are also
45:46worried that
45:48there may be a clash.
45:52Look, I absolutely believe
45:54that they have
45:56no manpower.
45:58They do not have
46:00enough people
46:02to show
46:04their capability.
46:06They do not have
46:08any other way
46:10to show the world
46:12that they have been
46:14oppressed.
46:16They can't do anything else.
46:18Thank you very much
46:20for your time.
46:22I would like to end
46:24on the alarming note
46:26that if the government
46:28can only do
46:30such a big job
46:32of clashing,
46:34then maybe the government
46:36has a double responsibility
46:38to work in such a
46:40calm manner.
46:42And if they think
46:44that they are involved
46:46in violence,
46:48then you should
46:50be careful.
46:52Ultimately,
46:54you will have to
46:56face the consequences.
46:58Politically,
47:00it may be beneficial for someone,
47:02but God forbid,
47:04if there is a clash,
47:06it will be a great loss
47:08for Pakistan and the Republic.
47:10Because once some bodies
47:12fall, then you don't know
47:14how the cards of politics
47:16will be spread.
47:18May Allah have mercy on Pakistan.
47:20May Allah give us permission.
47:22Goodbye.