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00:00Everyone was in coverage. One was versus zone, the first one. The next one, I believe, was versus man.
00:05No one was open in the rhythm of the play, and you got to keep him in the pocket, and he broke through there.
00:10And especially on the touchdown run, guys in man coverage had their backs to him, and you can't let him out of the pocket there.
00:16Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95-7, the game.
00:21All right, that was Kyle Shanahan talking about Geno Smith's game-winning touchdown yesterday
00:26that gave the Seahawks a 2017 victory over the 49ers.
00:31And, you know, it's a game that a lot of people had the 49ers winning, but you know what?
00:36A lot of people had the 49ers winning more than just five games after playing ten.
00:41And unfortunately, this one is similar to the other division losses to the Rams and to the Cardinals.
00:48They've, in three games, they've had multiple plays out there that, had they been made,
00:55you come out of the game with a win.
00:57But they have not been able to come up with a key play, or a key stop, or a timely stop.
01:04And now they're 5-5, and they've got two road games coming up in Green Bay and in Buffalo.
01:10And, man, this is desperation mode. I've got to believe it's desperation mode.
01:16You cannot lose the next two games, because if you lose the next two games, that might be the real night-night.
01:24Yeah, no doubt. And I've got to say this to you, because you just said something, Stoddy,
01:28that I don't want to say I disagree with, but I know and have more confidence in excuses for the defense as a whole.
01:37And yet, they're playing their ass off in regard to stopping Seattle on a third one.
01:43Geno got that. I don't know why it wasn't a challenge. They didn't give it to him.
01:47And the defense stopped him on fourth and one.
01:50And you're telling me, under five minutes, my offense, with the guy that I'm clamoring for to get a blank check as the quarterback,
01:58and you got McCaffrey back there, along with Debo and everybody else, and you can't do anything with that?
02:04And let's talk about that third down, the second down throw to Debo. Stoddy, it was awful. It was high.
02:10It was like, what are we—like, I couldn't believe Seattle loses a 5-of-6.
02:15Defense, Swiss cheese. How in the hell can the offense not just put them night-night?
02:22They did nothing on that series. And that's why I'm like, finally, the chickens came home to roost,
02:29because Dallas was in that position Seattle was. Seattle was in that position a month ago when we were at the veranda.
02:35Tampa Bay was in that position. So are we really surprised that Seattle went down and took advantage of it?
02:42Because you almost gave it to them after the defense stopped them.
02:47When the offense needs help from the defense, the defense isn't there.
02:52When the defense needs help from the offense, the offense isn't there.
02:57And there have been three games like that where, you know, it's 50-50 as far as I'm concerned.
03:0449ers get the ball back with the lead with four minutes to go.
03:08One of two things has to happen. They got to run out the clock, or they got to punt to the other team and hold them.
03:13They got to do one of those two things. And they weren't able to. And it got you beat again, 20-17.
03:21Can you—do you have any problem—because it's facts, Don. Even if you say no, I'll just say I disagree.
03:26But it's obvious they miss Brandon Aiyuk. You can see why now.
03:30Uh-uh.
03:31But you don't believe that?
03:32I do believe that, because the problems existed when Aiyuk was here.
03:36When he was playing, they had the same problems. Their offense was in fits and starts.
03:40Their offense was not clicking the first six, seven weeks when Brandon Aiyuk was there.
03:44Now he's not there.
03:45Now in 10 weeks, that—like, I feel like you're robbing Aiyuk and the offense of Jalen.
03:50You're right. You were right about my answer. No!
03:54How was Aiyuk?
03:55Well, then they got problems.
03:56They didn't miss him three—the last three games that they won.
03:59Nobody was saying anything. No! No!
04:01But all the games have been tight.
04:03Were they unbeatable with Brandon Aiyuk?
04:06If they were, I might join you. I might join you.
04:09If they were 6-1, they lose Aiyuk, they're 6-4, I might be on board with that.
04:13No, the point is, why did the team pay him?
04:16Because they need him, Stani. He does different things that you're not giving him credit for.
04:20I'm not saying if he were on the team, they wouldn't be using him.
04:23But I'll be damned if I'm going to say, well, if Aiyuk wouldn't have gotten hurt, we'd be 7-3.
04:27No! No! No!
04:30I don't know what he's bringing to the table.
04:32These lateral runs and bubble screens and jet sweep—Stani, it's over.
04:36Saran, what is he?
04:38He's getting $28 million.
04:41And I can't ask you to go one fly—just go around?
04:45Like, this offense is—they're hitting singles, man.
04:50Let's go to David and El Cerrito.
04:54Start us off, David.
04:56What's going on?
04:57Good morning. Good morning.
04:59How are you?
05:01I'm well.
05:03I hear you guys say things like, oh, when this guy comes back, it'll be fine.
05:08And I also hear—you know, I also hear gurus say things like, no one fears this team.
05:13I want to—I said to you a couple weeks ago,
05:16there's about three or four guys in the NFL that can win Super Bowls, quarterbacks by themselves.
05:20And there's about 10 guys that can win Super Bowls if they're on really good teams.
05:25I don't think—Purdy's probably on the lower end of that 10 guys that can win a Super Bowl if they're on a really good team.
05:30But the question I ask is, if Brock Purdy hadn't been the last pick in the draft,
05:35if he had been the third pick in the draft, like Trey Lance,
05:38what would this conversation be like now?
05:41Because I feel like he just will forever get a pass
05:45because they got him on the cheap and they got him really late.
05:48Because his overall play, he doesn't elevate the team.
05:51Sure, he makes plays.
05:53But this is a quarterback who doesn't elevate the team.
05:56If he was the third pick in the draft, what's the conversation about the Niners today?
06:00I mean, honestly, I think if he were the third pick in the draft,
06:03we'd still be saying he was the best quarterback in that draft.
06:08Let's say they drafted Purdy instead of Trey Lance.
06:11Well, no. Then the lights would be flashing red if that's where he's going
06:15because I'm looking at Purdy's play and it's been average.
06:18Right, but Purdy's been better than Trevor Lawrence.
06:22He's been better than Zach Wilson.
06:24He's been better than Justin Fields.
06:26But I think he's saying he's slipping, though.
06:28His play is slipping.
06:29Mack Jones.
06:30Yeah, his play is slipping.
06:32Well, his play might be slipping.
06:35But he would still be the best quarterback in that draft.
06:39But, no, he's not been spectacular.
06:43I don't think he's been terrible, though, either.
06:45No, but I feel like Kyle wants him to do something.
06:48Stoney, there's some restraint on him.
06:50Something's going on.
06:51I don't think there's any restraint on him.
06:53And now, all of a sudden, the running aspect has become his best aspect
06:56and I don't like that.
06:57He's not Michael Vick.
06:58He's not Cam Newton.
06:59That's why I don't think the reins are on him.
07:00I think he's just the opposite.
07:02Well, when you run for your life, you've got to abort mission, Stoney,
07:05so he's running because guys are coming after him.
07:09And maybe the receivers aren't open.
07:11Well, that, too.
07:12Exactly.
07:13And that's a whole nother...
07:14That's why I'm looking at 28 million, man.
07:16Slapping dudes, grabbing them on the neck, and you're doing nothing.
07:21888-957-9570 is the number.
07:27Let's go to Alex in Atlanta.
07:30What's up, Alex?
07:31How you doing?
07:32Oh, man.
07:33After yesterday's game, guys, not feeling super great.
07:36I'm disheartened.
07:37I'm frustrated with the way the Niners are performing right now.
07:40Stein, you mentioned earlier in the show,
07:42you talked about those three games where they lost in the fourth quarter
07:45despite having big leads, being in a position to win.
07:47They had a 90% win probability in the fourth in all three of those games.
07:51And for them to lose all three of those games,
07:53the odds of that happening are a tenth of a percent.
07:55Yeah.
07:56And I bring that up because playoff teams and championship-caliber teams,
08:00you always say they find ways to win.
08:02Teams that are mediocre, they find ways to lose.
08:05And the Niners, they're a mediocre team this year.
08:07They have found ways to lose.
08:09You talked about the fact that, look,
08:11you can't just blame the head coach for everything,
08:13and I agree with you there under normal circumstances,
08:17but I would ask you to give me a little bit and say that
08:19Kyle is not your standard NFL head coach.
08:21He has a lot more decision-making power
08:23than the average head coach when it comes to
08:25not only the personnel and his coaching staff,
08:27but also the personnel that make the roster
08:30and how they manage that roster,
08:32how they spend and invest draft picks.
08:34And I think that a lot of their misses in the draft
08:38are coming home to roost.
08:39They've drafted 12 wide receivers since he's been here,
08:41but they haven't drafted a lot of O-line or D-line depth.
08:44I think that's coming back to bite them now
08:46with the injuries they're seeing on the defensive line
08:48with Hargrave and now Bosa.
08:50I think the fact that guys like McKivitt and Brendel
08:53and, you know, in the past, Mike McGlinchey
08:55have all underperformed in their roles,
08:57that circles back to poor drafting.
08:59You know, they spent a third-round pick on a kicker.
09:02So I think I give Kyle a little bit more blame than standard
09:05because he has a bit more responsibility
09:08than your standard head coach.
09:09And the last thing I'll say is this.
09:11If they lose to Green Bay on Sunday,
09:13I would not be opposed to them
09:15shutting down guys like McCaffrey, Greenlaw, and Bosa
09:18for the rest of the season
09:19because at that point, I think the season's over.
09:21Wow. Thanks, Alex.
09:22And you know what?
09:23That's the first time I've ever heard that point.
09:25And I'll give him it.
09:27I think it's a fair point
09:29about Kyle not being just a normal coach.
09:31He actually has more responsibility than a normal coach
09:34because we know he's involved in the draft
09:36and all that kind of stuff.
09:37So that part, that is fair, I think,
09:40from that point of view.
09:42I always look at the players,
09:44and I think if a player's going to have a great season,
09:48he's going to have a great season.
09:49And the coach doesn't hold back a player
09:51from having a great season.
09:52And to me, all their players...
09:55What player is playing to their standard
09:58that they set in the last two to three years?
10:02I think nobody.
10:04Maybe Kittle.
10:06Fred Warner.
10:07But I didn't hear his name at all yesterday.
10:11I get you.
10:12And you might be like,
10:13well, you know what?
10:15Okay, so he didn't have a great game.
10:17Well, you know,
10:18now he's had three games out of ten that aren't great.
10:21But if he's out there on a solo mission,
10:23Stani is kind of like...
10:25Bosa was terrific in the first half.
10:28Was he?
10:29They scored six points.
10:30Yeah, well, it could have been 14.
10:32Kyle, what do you mean?
10:34Why could it have been 14?
10:36Terrific is...
10:38I didn't see terrific.
10:39Bosa was good in the first half.
10:40Okay, but he hadn't been...
10:41Would you say he's been good this season?
10:43I would say no.
10:44And I was on here Friday saying I wanted more.
10:46Yeah, I don't think he's been bad.
10:48When the exit left,
10:49they missed him like all outdoors.
10:51The bottom line is,
10:52the Niners are soft,
10:53and they're soft because now,
10:55at both lines of scrimmage,
10:57they don't win.
10:58And you said Bosa was good.
11:00He's doing a one-man show up there.
11:02And it's been that way pretty much all season.
11:05Well, then they're not good enough.
11:06I mean, the Giants scored 29 points
11:08on the Seahawks defense.
11:10And that's all you could muster yesterday
11:12with McCaffrey back?
11:13And, like, there's a Debo problem.
11:16We can say whatever we want, Stiney.
11:19He's not having an impact on the game.
11:21And I know this as a father.
11:24When your kids are messing up,
11:25you go to the parents.
11:27And this has to fall squarely on Kyle Shanahan.
11:29All right, so, okay.
11:31Let's go along with your premise.
11:33It falls on Shanahan.
11:35Okay, now what?
11:36What do you do with that?
11:37What do you do with that information
11:38that you're believing in?
11:40We watch the rest of the season play out.
11:42Can somebody whisper to him,
11:44hey, your offense is getting stale and predictable.
11:48I think there's something to that.
11:49Will he take that and evolve?
11:52And all we have, Stiney,
11:53is the rest of the season to figure that out.
11:55I think it's been more predictable because,
11:58well, there's probably a million reasons.
12:00And I'm not limiting it to these reasons.
12:03But when you don't have Christian McCaffrey
12:04and you're using Jordan Mason,
12:06that limits you a little bit.
12:07Then you lose Brandon Ayuk.
12:09That limits you a little bit.
12:11You'll lose Brandon Ayuk
12:12and then George Kittle doesn't play in a game.
12:14That limits things a little more.
12:16You have a game where you don't have
12:17McCaffrey and Debo Samuel misses.
12:19That limits you.
12:21So, I'm sure he would say that
12:24we can't run the same plays
12:26without the personnel that we normally use.
12:29Well, if we're going to throw to Ayuk 10 times a game,
12:32we can't anymore.
12:33We've got to throw to Jennings 10 times a game.
12:36So, I don't single out anybody
12:44more than anybody else
12:46when I look at this team being 5-5.
12:49I believe everybody's responsible.
12:52Shanahan, not a great year.
12:55Purdy, not a great year.
12:57Ayuk, not a great year.
12:59Then he gets hurt.
13:00McCaffrey, getting hurt,
13:02doesn't quite look himself.
13:04Every single thing has dropped a notch
13:07and that's why you're 5-5.
13:09I'm not disagreeing with that,
13:12but I know these football players,
13:14their job is to play the best football, right?
13:16But Kyle Shanahan's job,
13:18and I've given him praise for it,
13:20and other people have too,
13:21is devising a way to get these guys open
13:24to make their job easier.
13:26And that's not happening offensively.
13:28Doesn't look like it.
13:31But is that on the players?
13:32We're never going to find out.
13:34Are the players not executing?
13:35Is Kyle not calling the right plays?
13:37I know Brock Purdy's under duress
13:39from as soon as the game starts.
13:41That, to me, is not a coaching issue.
13:43If their offensive line cannot hold up,
13:46what can you do as a coach?
13:48Or as an offensive line coach?
13:50It makes you wonder,
13:51why was it so effective enough last year
13:54to get to the Super Bowl?
13:56I think that when you ask 49er fans
14:00in the offseason,
14:01where do we need to upgrade?
14:02Offensive line was something that came up.
14:04You are right.