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00:00All right.
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01:06This is our last episode before surviving starts.
01:10Would that be right?
01:11Yeah, because we're not doing next week either, right?
01:13Right, right, right, right, right.
01:14Do we have, is it trailer?
01:16Tell me, do we know when this is gonna start
01:18getting kind of promoted?
01:19Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday?
01:21I know I haven't.
01:22Well, you haven't seen it all, no?
01:24No.
01:26It airs Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
01:32We may put like a Cyber Monday goal.
01:35Like if we hit this, we'll drop it earlier
01:37on Cyber Monday.
01:39But the plan, if not, is Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
01:41I think like a bunch of weeks in a row.
01:44I had to go, last week I had to, have you done this yet?
01:46You had to kind of do some.
01:48Like the fill-ins basically?
01:50Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:52It took me a couple hours.
01:53How long did it take you?
01:54No comment.
01:56Why have I not had to do this?
01:58No comment on any of it.
01:59I mean, the first one eliminated Whitney.
02:01I mean, that's generally.
02:02No comment on any of it.
02:03What do you mean no comment on any of it?
02:04You're the only one who spoiled anything.
02:06Well, we spoiled the fucking thing.
02:08We can't comment on it?
02:09No comment on any of it.
02:11Do we have a dump button?
02:12You're no commentin' us.
02:15Yeah, well, I have logic, so I'm no commenting.
02:20You have logic, so you're no commenting.
02:21Well, we're on a live show.
02:23You want me to text it to you?
02:25Anything to update us?
02:25I can tell you.
02:26What's gonna happen?
02:27I don't think it was with Netflix,
02:28the way he was criticizing Netflix this weekend,
02:29is my guess.
02:30I thought maybe Netflix was the place,
02:33but probably not, huh?
02:35Why Netflix?
02:35That was a huge success for them in the end.
02:38It was a disaster during it, though.
02:39Streaming, yeah.
02:41Yeah, I wonder whether they thought it was a disaster
02:43during or it didn't really matter
02:45because they had so many views and whatnot.
02:47They had to think of it as a disaster.
02:49Can I ask you a basic question, though?
02:51How does that still happen to a company?
02:53Netflix is the biggest company in the world, whatever.
02:55Because they've never done anything
02:56remotely similar to that.
02:58But how are they not,
02:59did they not have the ability to say,
03:00hey, let's test this?
03:02You just can't replicate having-
03:03I don't think you can, yeah.
03:06I don't think you can-
03:07We undersold the total-
03:08Stress 60 million live concurrence, I don't think.
03:12Why do you say it was such a success at the end?
03:14Because their stock price is up like 20%
03:17or something since it happened.
03:18Yeah.
03:19100 million people watch, right?
03:20DTG Global.
03:20Yeah.
03:22You think they thought,
03:24think the number way overshot
03:26what they thought it was going to be?
03:27Like, is there a way to estimate that?
03:28I have no idea.
03:29I don't know how many total users they have.
03:32So I didn't even think they had
03:34that many total users to begin with.
03:36So, I mean, I have no idea at all.
03:40Like, I watched it.
03:41I would not have watched it if I had to pay for it.
03:43Oh, God, no, no.
03:44But I guess their argument is,
03:46well, actually, you do have to pay for it.
03:47You just don't think of it that way.
03:49Because you pay for it.
03:50And you pay for so much else.
03:52Yeah, I mean, I have Netflix
03:53whether that fight happens or not.
03:55So it's not like I signed up for Netflix based on that.
03:58I have Netflix and I've had it forever.
04:01Same.
04:01But did you watch like a night in its entirety?
04:06I watched a lot.
04:07I started too early.
04:08The female fight before, it was unbelievable.
04:10Way better.
04:11Yeah, it was a good fight.
04:12And I was at that fight at Madison Square Garden.
04:14And it's the best sporting event I've ever been to
04:16in that building, the best fight.
04:18So I was excited for it.
04:20And then I, like everybody else,
04:22I had the curiosity factor and it's like free.
04:24So yeah, I'll watch it.
04:25The biggest thing I lost is I stayed up late.
04:28Like, I don't stay up that late.
04:29I just don't get why they,
04:31I guess they didn't know what it was
04:32because I've got Cedric the Entertainer and Michael Irvin
04:35and like, what is it?
04:36Is it a fight?
04:37Circus.
04:38Yeah, I guess they're just gonna do that.
04:40I mean, I know the NFL.
04:41I mean, it's not a real fight.
04:42That was never a real fight.
04:43You couldn't bet it in certain states.
04:45Tyson's, like, I consider myself a Tyson historian.
04:49He was horrible at the end of his career
04:51when he was still young.
04:52So-
04:53Yeah, right.
04:54After he lost to Holyfield, after he lost to Douglas,
04:55he was basically-
04:56Once he got out of prison, he was totally different.
04:58And I mean, I did his, I've said this.
05:00I did his podcast.
05:01They need somebody else in there
05:03because he couldn't even carry a sentence.
05:04He was walking with a cane not too long ago.
05:07Brilliant move from both those guys.
05:09Made a shit ton of money.
05:10But that was not a legitimate fight.
05:13It was a circus.
05:14It was a classic.
05:15I saw the video where it was like obvious
05:16he wasn't hitting them.
05:18Yeah, it was a bunch of those.
05:20No, I don't believe any of that.
05:21I mean, Tyson's old.
05:22He's 60 years old.
05:25Like, you can't just unthrow,
05:27like, he has no skills left.
05:31You don't think he knows how to throw a punch?
05:33Like, if Tyson hit you with an uppercut,
05:36you'd be on another planet.
05:38Well, yeah, I don't know
05:39if that's the barrier for entry here.
05:40Well, I mean, you're saying it's like he can't do it.
05:43He can't throw a punch anymore.
05:44He can't.
05:45Versus somebody as capable,
05:47not that Jake Paul's the most capable.
05:49Jake Paul, for whatever you wanna say,
05:51is in the gym training, like, every day
05:52for like a decade now.
05:55Fighters can't get off punches.
05:57Not just, like, when guys lose it,
05:59it's like, why isn't he throwing?
06:00It's like the reflexes, the skills.
06:01He's afraid of getting hit.
06:04Trust me, if Tyson thought he could've knocked out Paul,
06:06he would've tried to.
06:08Oh, yeah, I don't agree with that.
06:10Well, you're dumb then.
06:11How am I dumb if there's all these different videos
06:13that are kind of showing, like, yo,
06:16and wasn't it already said that if it,
06:18the longer the fight went, the more he got paid?
06:21Oh, is that true?
06:22No, I haven't seen that anywhere.
06:23I didn't see that.
06:24Is that right?
06:26Wait, who's dumb?
06:27You think Mike Tyson could've performed better
06:29and chose not to?
06:30That's dumb.
06:34Yeah, I think he could've.
06:35Yeah, maybe not later, but earlier on,
06:39I would think he had something more to give.
06:42Why?
06:43At this point, though, I did see,
06:45you would see these training montages of Tyson.
06:48Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:48Yeah, they were with nobody hitting back
06:52in like one second.
06:53I'm saying he looked even more fit in those than he did.
06:56Then he shows up at the fight and he looked bloated.
06:58Maybe they fast-forwarded those, like, training clips.
07:01Maybe they cut him off.
07:02They did, like, one-second clips.
07:03This guy was losing to tomato cans.
07:05At the end, oh, yeah, no.
07:0630 years ago.
07:07Yeah, he was terrible at the end.
07:09Like, 30 years ago, he was losing.
07:11And you could ask, like, why doesn't Mike
07:13just knock this guy out?
07:14Because whatever he had was long gone.
07:19Like, he's fucking 60.
07:20He fought Roy Jones Jr. and it was the same shit.
07:23I mean, why?
07:25You think if Tyson got in, like, a bar fight,
07:27he wouldn't be able to knock out the bouncer?
07:30Oh, Paul's the best.
07:31But Paul's a legitimate fighter.
07:32I mean, he's a tough guy.
07:33I mean, he's not, you know, no?
07:35Yeah, well, Paul is a professional.
07:39Like, he trains.
07:40I don't know who the bouncer,
07:43the big, old, strong, tough guy.
07:45I don't know that he would be able to, honestly.
07:47I bet it's the biggest payday of his career, though,
07:50which is crazy.
07:51Yeah, when you add up the years passing and 20 million.
07:54I mean, the guy was walking with a cane not too long ago.
07:56Like, it's fucking wild.
07:58Another, just another, like, just fooled everybody.
08:01Like, everybody all week was like,
08:02I saw people tweeting that Tyson was gonna win.
08:04I made a video saying it was the easiest bet
08:07I've ever seen in my lifetime.
08:09If I really had balls, I would've put my net worth on it.
08:12Not that I would've been allowed to because they wouldn't,
08:13but it, I got nervous by how dumb,
08:16like, the Whitney's of the world was.
08:18Like, what, what?
08:19These people, I put 100 grand on Jake Paul.
08:22He was two to one, so I won 50,
08:23but it, you're just not paying attention to Tyson,
08:28if you thought, and I get it.
08:29People like, oh.
08:30I never saw him on a cane.
08:31I didn't know he was walking with a cane.
08:32Did you watch any of the Roy Jones Jr.?
08:35No.
08:36I mean, yeah, I mean, he's an old man.
08:42And he wasn't good 30 years ago
08:46when he was 30 years younger.
08:47Like, he just, but people still did that during his career.
08:50Every fight, they're like, here comes Tyson
08:52because they do the montages, the back,
08:54and then it'd be a dud, and it's like,
08:55oh, I fell for the banana in the tailpipe again.
08:58Then you move it 30 years, 30 years.
09:01Versus a guy who's 27.
09:03I don't, Jake Paul is no good.
09:06Like, he's fought one guy his age
09:08who's a borderline fighter in Tommy Fury,
09:12and he lost.
09:13Now, I never had interest after that,
09:15but he's good enough where you can't be a 60-year-old man
09:19who was on a cane a year ago.
09:20I don't care what you were.
09:23Like, and to be honest, I think a lot of these boxers
09:25who fought a lot, they age way worse than normal humans
09:29because they've been hit so much.
09:30They've been hit in the head, dude.
09:31Of course, yeah.
09:32No shit.
09:33Obviously, Tyson.
09:34Well, no shit, Ryan.
09:35Apparently, you didn't get that logic.
09:37Well, no, but I understand.
09:38You're trying to say, hey, boxers don't age great.
09:42I know that.
09:43I still would think Mike Tyson had something more in there.
09:45How old?
09:46That's different than you saying they don't age good.
09:48Oh, no shit.
09:49No, no.
09:50Well, I'm saying he's 60.
09:51He's probably closer to 90.
09:52Like, how old would Tyson have to be
09:55before you're like, yeah, that's too old for him to be?
09:5775.
09:58Yeah, right.
09:59That's crazy.
10:00It's crazy.
10:01You mentioned Cyber Monday,
10:02and so this year, the telethon was essentially canceled.
10:06Is that right?
10:07Yeah, I canceled it.
10:08Was that just a financial?
10:09So I looked at the numbers.
10:11It's a little boost, but we don't promote it earlier,
10:14and it's a lot of work, and it's a lot of lift.
10:16For what?
10:17It's like, just because we do it every year.
10:20So I didn't think it was necessary.
10:21When I saw, I asked.
10:22I'm like, can I see what we do,
10:23Cyber Telethon and things like that,
10:26compared to the rest of the weekend?
10:28And I didn't think the amount of work and strain
10:31that goes into it on our end, all of our ends,
10:33was worth how much we moved.
10:36So that's why I did it.
10:37I mean, we'll still set goals,
10:38and still, Black Friday, Cyber Monday
10:40is super important to everybody at the company,
10:43but I don't know that it just,
10:46I don't wanna say busy work, but we didn't need it.
10:49Yeah, so you should be keeping an eye
10:51on who doesn't promote.
10:52Oh yeah, I keep a close eye.
10:54Any early favorites for that?
10:58No, I mean, we've gotten better, I feel like,
11:00because I freak out.
11:03You know, it's an important four days.
11:06It helps a lot.
11:08The telethon's just something,
11:11sometimes you get stuck in like,
11:12well, we've done this forever,
11:14so we should keep doing it, but like, really, why?
11:16Like, oh, I get to call and talk to White Sox Dave.
11:19White Sox Dave.
11:20Well, it started all this Cyber Black Friday.
11:22It was like the shtick was,
11:24you're gonna make me go bankrupt.
11:25Like, when it was just the four of us, yeah.
11:28And people actually bought into it,
11:30and it would really go.
11:31They'd be like, I can't wait to put Dave in the poorhouse,
11:34and here's 30 shirts I bought.
11:37And then it elevated.
11:38It just runs course.
11:40Can it go the other way,
11:41where people tweet too much, where it's just as wild?
11:43That's what I wonder.
11:44Like, at some point, they're like, fuck, I'm not buying it,
11:47because of how much of my timeline.
11:47After day or two, when somebody's tweeting 310 times,
11:50you're just like, well, okay.
11:51I don't know.
11:53Is there a balance?
11:55I think there's a combo of being smart or creative with it,
11:59but if you're tweeting out new stuff, that probably helps.
12:03Like, maybe somebody hasn't seen something they like.
12:07I would always err on the caution of more than less.
12:09Okay, and if it does well,
12:11you might release episode one of Surviving.
12:14Early on that Monday, which I'd love to do.
12:16I can't wait to watch Surviving.
12:17Has Jeff watched it?
12:20I don't know.
12:21I have no idea.
12:21I would assume probably, no?
12:24I bet they, oh, I don't know.
12:26But you're right, Dave, because I.
12:27Right, I know, that's why it's.
12:29I know, you're right, you're right.
12:30But it's, I will say this about the series.
12:34It gets increasingly wilder.
12:37I'm excited to see it.
12:38Yeah, yes, I'm.
12:41I mean, I'm.
12:42I'm looking forward to it, yeah.
12:44Now I'm dreading something, but.
12:45I mean, there's a lot of, there's parts of it.
12:47There's parts of it, I'll just say this.
12:50Kind of like season one, I just hope when the curtain drops
12:54and this thing's over, the company is still standing.
12:57Like, that is, that's a legitimate concern of mine.
13:01So, like, I.
13:03I will say without giving any weight,
13:05I'm not saying how far we went.
13:05The three of us do certainly interact at times
13:07in the series.
13:10Yeah.
13:10I'm not saying, I'm just, I'm just dreading something.
13:13That's all I'm gonna say.
13:14Are you really?
13:16Let's move on, let's move on, let's move on.
13:18I said I might have the longest 24 hours
13:20on the internet anyone's ever had.
13:22Is it what I think it is or no?
13:23No, stop it, can we stop it?
13:26I'll end the show, there's no way to do this without.
13:29All right, fine, Dave, fucking talk about
13:31fucking Zach Bryan again, I don't know what the fuck to say.
13:34I mean, that, don't, that is kind of crazy,
13:36the Zach Bryan UFC, he got exposed there.
13:39I mean.
13:40I'll admit, that's interesting.
13:42I did not care that Bree was FaceTiming
13:43with Zach Bryan's wife, I don't give a shit about that.
13:46Yeah, people in that care, but the fact that
13:48they're like playing, like, they're begging UFC fighters
13:52to walk out to his music and.
13:53Well, you can tell the way he answered the question,
13:55he had no idea who the guy was.
13:56Yeah, and then Jack Mack did a pretty deep dive.
13:59It's all one guy, who's like best friends with Zach
14:02or really good friends, who's like all his fighters,
14:04suddenly these Zach Bryan fans.
14:07That's the thing about Barstool, we have people like,
14:09you don't expect that clip to make his way to me,
14:13but then you have Robbie Fox, who like,
14:15is just, yeah, doing everything UFC, so, yeah.
14:20Did you see, did you see,
14:22so Rico was coloring in Chicago yesterday.
14:26What's going on with Rico's deal?
14:28He's blinking, he's doing adult coloring.
14:30The blinking is, was, but.
14:34He looks it, he looks psycho at this blinking.
14:35Yeah.
14:37I can't see.
14:38Those are for his kids, I bet.
14:40In Chicago?
14:42The coloring?
14:42No.
14:43Oh, yeah, he's not.
14:44One of these, in Chicago, they color all,
14:45I don't know what's going on,
14:46and some girl asked him to color, Rico did it,
14:48then he didn't like the tweet, he had the tweet deleted.
14:51He had this tweet deleted?
14:53He confirmed it on the show today, deleted.
14:55Who would listen to him to delete it?
14:57That's a great question.
14:59And does he now not think this is
15:00not going back up somehow?
15:02I got like, I got like 40 tweets of him,
15:04like everyone's like, this is deleted,
15:06why did Rico delete this?
15:06And he just like, yeah, he said,
15:08he said, two minutes is enough to find a man's day,
15:10is what he said to me.
15:13And the blinking is insane.
15:15Insane, I couldn't even continue the podcast.
15:18I thought it was like Morse code,
15:19they were trying to escape or something.
15:21Have you seen this, Whitney?
15:22Yeah, I got a little theory on it.
15:24Oh, let me, can we see it?
15:25A man texted me 10 seconds later.
15:28He's like, did you see the end of the game?
15:29I'm like, yeah, I did.
15:30Like pick six, like, no, pick six.
15:33They drove to the one with like plenty of time left.
15:38Rico, are you okay?
15:39Me, yeah.
15:42Can we cut that of Rico just doing this?
15:45I got bad blink, that's the thing, I got bad blink,
15:47I'm low on content.
15:48I've never noticed him ever doing that,
15:49he's blinking, he's saying he does that.
15:52Back to the game.
15:53They have first and goal at the one with 45 seconds?
15:56Yes.
15:56Well, I just saw the play like two days ago,
15:58the first time it was on, man, that was a bad beat.
16:01Just unbelievable, I can't take,
16:04can we put sunglasses on Rico?
16:06What's going on?
16:08Did you see that little smile at the end?
16:10What'd you think?
16:12Yeah, did you remember about a week ago
16:15in Jersey, Jerry had a little viral video
16:18of him kind of-
16:18Yeah, in the back, yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:20Maybe, maybe he's like with some facial tics and blinking.
16:25No, that's giving him too much credit.
16:28Oh, I don't know about that.
16:29Rico's smart, Rico's funny and smart,
16:31and he might've been like, that clip went kind of viral.
16:34And he's organizing to make a film.
16:35Maybe he might get some flicks on TikTok.
16:36No, what about this one?
16:37What about this one before the fact?
16:38Here's a blog that I don't wanna see.
16:40I've never seen him blink that much before.
16:43What the hell?
16:44That's him focusing.
16:47He looks, it looks like an alien's in his body,
16:51like trying to take it over, you know?
16:52It looks like Ted Bundy there.
16:53He does, he looks like a serial killer.
16:56And he's rubbing his hand.
16:57What's he thinking about then?
17:00And I guess people are outraged.
17:01He's saying he wears the same contacts
17:03for a month and a half.
17:05That's very, very bad for you.
17:07I don't know much about that.
17:08Is that, that's, what's the-
17:09I mean, I have LASIK, best thing you can ever do
17:12if you have, need contacts or glasses.
17:15Before, if I kept a contact in one night,
17:18I mean, you'd be, yeah, you're blinking like Rico.
17:20Oh, yes.
17:21It's like, that's bad news.
17:23See, a month?
17:24Month and a half, he said he hasn't taken them out.
17:26He sleeps with them, he never takes them out.
17:28Yeah, like, I feel like you could go blind with that.
17:31Jesus.
17:32That's bad news, seriously.
17:34Well, that's why he's sitting there going like-
17:37Well, if you give him a new contract,
17:38he can buy some new contacts.
17:39He's getting a new contract.
17:40He's getting a new-
17:41Nice.
17:42We're not doing this again, are we?
17:43No, he's guaranteed a new contract.
17:45Now, does he call me up off the record
17:47to say I have a great year?
17:48And I have to be like, well, you didn't kill anybody,
17:50but you had one show and it got canceled,
17:53so I don't know that that's a great year.
17:58You asked him to blog,
17:59and the guy has blogged his dick off for a year straight.
18:05You also had him do this show once a week
18:07when I believe Dan told him every day,
18:10and Dan told him once a week,
18:12it wouldn't be canceled if it was once a week,
18:13so you got it canceled, basically.
18:16Was that healthy debate?
18:17Is that what that was called?
18:18Yeah.
18:18Healthy debate.
18:19That's been canceled.
18:20Yeah, Pound for Pound, the least viewed show
18:22with the longest tenure we've ever had here at this company.
18:28But he's okay, isn't he?
18:30Of course he's okay.
18:32Well, I mean, not mentally okay.
18:33I'm assuming you can re-sign him.
18:35Yes.
18:36But with inflation, he gets a bump.
18:37Oh, I mean, yeah, yeah.
18:41Listen, we've had interest in contract negotiations.
18:44He got a raise that was bigger
18:46than what it should have been.
18:47He didn't tell anybody.
18:48Bank error in his favor.
18:50One of the all-time clips.
18:53Is he pretending that he has any other offers
18:55like he did a couple of years ago?
18:56No, no, no.
18:57He's giving up that?
18:58Yeah, he knows he's here.
19:00Okay.
19:03I'll never forget the day, what was it?
19:06He was gone for 36 hours to Artis.
19:0848 hours of Moscow.
19:10I talked to him 70 times in those 48 hours.
19:13There's no chance there was a deal.
19:14Well, there was, you think?
19:16Zero.
19:17Pull it up.
19:18There's a teaser, 48 hours of Moscow.
19:21It's the greatest like teaser
19:23for something that's never been made.
19:24Somebody will eventually make this,
19:26like it'll be a Netflix drama.
19:28And that's to be like a 30-part series.
19:3148 hours of Moscow, the wildest 48 hours.
19:36And everything he said was a lie the entire time.
19:38100%.
19:39I think he had a couple of combos with him.
19:41I don't think the whole thing was made up.
19:45I think like maybe they talked to him.
19:46Can we pull it up?
19:47Can someone pull up the 48 hours of, no, everything.
19:51How long is this?
19:52No, it's a quick little teaser,
19:53but you'll be like, oh, I want to watch this.
19:56What kind of person goes through stranger's life?
20:00That's some weird fucking behavior.
20:02Rico's crazy.
20:04Off the reservation.
20:07Look at Marty.
20:08He's created burners
20:09and went after people's families here at Barstow.
20:12And meanwhile, you're fucking harassing
20:14the life of people.
20:15Fuck off.
20:16Fuck off.
20:16Some things are bigger than sports
20:19and I'm a man of honor.
20:20And then he's fucking one of them.
20:23You fucking on his head.
20:24I'll fucking put a right through you.
20:26You stupid fuck.
20:27How many times?
20:28How many times?
20:28How many times?
20:29Rico is a fucking coward.
20:31Always has been, always will be.
20:34You get away with murder.
20:35You run people out of this company.
20:37You do something to wrong him,
20:40he cuts you off completely.
20:41That's part of the crazy.
20:42That's part of the entertainment.
20:44That's part of the nuts.
20:45He was, that was who he was.
20:50Very easy to take for granted
20:52when you're in this seat.
20:53How many people want to be in your seat?
20:57Be the best.
21:00I would pay a hundred dollars to watch that movie.
21:05You know what though?
21:06He is the ultimate.
21:07Like I would say for all his craziness,
21:08he's a punched down guy though.
21:11You think?
21:12He's one of the all time punch down guys.
21:13I don't know about that.
21:14Who's that guy he was going after for years
21:16that was pretty big.
21:18Who, Adrian Wojnowski?
21:19No, the full, the former hoops player.
21:24Gottlieb, Gottlieb's not a punch down.
21:26No, no, no.
21:27He, that's gone.
21:28He's not going after life.
21:29He's not going after,
21:30he's not going after me, you, Dave, Biggie.
21:32He goes after cons and after fucking big T.
21:36He's a punch down guy.
21:37No, no, no doubt.
21:39No doubt.
21:40Now guy.
21:41He's better.
21:42He's in better.
21:43He has, he doesn't really do these fights anymore.
21:46Yeah.
21:46So he's like sedated.
21:47He's coloring in Chicago.
21:48When he says to you, he's had a good year.
21:50You, he doesn't mean professionally.
21:52He means he hasn't tried to kill anybody or dox them.
21:54Yeah.
21:55I mean, Rico's dollars and cents.
21:56He just wants the most money humanly possible
21:59and will concoct any story possible
22:01for him to get to that number.
22:04And he's doing these.
22:06Yes.
22:08I'll say like.
22:09Go ahead.
22:10If somebody went to prison,
22:11ironically, he probably could have for the high noon.
22:14Should have, should have.
22:15And then you come out and then you're on probation
22:17and you see your officer,
22:19the probation officer be going back to the judge right now.
22:21Like this guy's doing unbelievable.
22:24Yeah.
22:25So.
22:26But the problem with this company
22:27is the probation officer wants him to be crazy again.
22:30Well, yeah, it's.
22:32That's sort of, that's sort of the.
22:33Like you'll make more money if you're crazy.
22:35Right.
22:36But then I might have to send you back to prison.
22:37Yeah.
22:39From a guy throwing these things
22:40and going nuts to coloring is like,
22:42is like the movie awakenings of Robert De Niro.
22:44And they, when he comes back to life
22:45and in the end, he's a zombie again.
22:48He's a zombie again.
22:49Yeah.
22:50It's like the, the program Latimer,
22:52like seat at the table when he's on steroids,
22:54he's in star lineup.
22:56Right.
22:56Steroids ain't good.
22:57Yeah.
22:58Take steroids out.
22:59He can't see the field.
23:00We gotta get somebody to put your face on the coach
23:03at the end when he looks at him on the sideline
23:05and he knows.
23:07I think Latimer at the end gets back on steroids.
23:09Doesn't he?
23:10He does.
23:11And then he makes the big play
23:12and the coach looks at him and he just says,
23:14right.
23:15I know.
23:15How is, speaking of coach,
23:18any, any new guru news in the last week or no?
23:20Home run higher, home run higher.
23:22People love him.
23:23He's all in.
23:24All in.
23:26People coming out of woodwork,
23:27like wanting to work with them.
23:29People, advertisers.
23:31Really?
23:32Advertisers already call him?
23:33Yeah.
23:34Wow.
23:35That's nice.
23:36I love how the internet works.
23:37It was funny.
23:38Like he, his golf swing,
23:39he has a pretty good golf swing.
23:39It went like crazy viral.
23:42I, he, he just sent it to the group chat,
23:44which is funny to like show his golf swing.
23:47What's the group chat?
23:48We have a group, an internet group chat.
23:50So when he creates something,
23:52he sends it to us.
23:53We can get it.
23:54Yeah.
23:55Who's like?
23:55Someone's tweeting for him, obviously.
23:56We put, he sends the stuff and then we put it out.
23:59Yeah.
24:00Yeah.
24:00So he sent the golf just in the chat.
24:03And then I think Malasek maybe,
24:06somebody's like, can we post?
24:07He's like, no, that's just internal.
24:08I'm like, we got to post it.
24:09This is great.
24:10People love it.
24:11So no, he's been great.
24:12I, great hire.
24:14Very happy.
24:14Anything new that like anything he's going to be doing
24:17that you didn't know a week ago?
24:18Is there anything?
24:19Well, we didn't even know that,
24:20know the Gruden grinders thing was coming.
24:22Like he just sent it along
24:23and then we didn't have graphics really ready for it.
24:27No, it's still, it's still so early.
24:29I'll probably go to Tampa and spend a day or two
24:32with him at his facility after Thanksgiving.
24:36I kind of need a Che and Gruden thing.
24:38I know.
24:39Like I need.
24:40Che is just.
24:41Yeah.
24:42We got to send him.
24:43No, something.
24:43I agree.
24:44It's just, it's hard because they're not together.
24:46Right, right, right.
24:47He's in.
24:48Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:49And I think if Che and them kids.
24:51A show with them too?
24:52Even if it's like quick,
24:53even if it's just kind of some video form something
24:57where they're just,
24:58even if it's a separate thing for a half hour,
25:00they just.
25:01I agree.
25:02There's gotta be something there.
25:04Yeah.
25:05Like the clip he did of Ricky Waters was unbelievable.
25:08Crazy.
25:09That he pulled out.
25:11Did you see this?
25:12What?
25:13Like it was a Joe Mixon touchdown run.
25:13Did he just think of that?
25:15Yeah.
25:16Like where else? Same run.
25:17Unbelievable.
25:18Yeah.
25:19It's crazy.
25:20And he has it.
25:20He somehow, like how did he,
25:22like how,
25:23where did he pull this Ricky Waters run?
25:26And be like, that's what he reminds me.
25:27It's literally the same run.
25:28Same run.
25:30He would have,
25:31not that he would have the,
25:32he coached him when he was in Philly,
25:35I would guess.
25:36Yeah.
25:36So he coached him,
25:37but still even to have that,
25:38I can't remember where to find videos I did last week.
25:41That like,
25:42I love at the end when he's like,
25:43how is he not in the hall of fame, man?
25:46Yeah.
25:47So he's been great.
25:48He's been a very good hire for us.
25:50He's one of those guys that's like,
25:51he's yeah,
25:52he's older than the internet in a way,
25:54but he does everything he puts on is gonna,
25:57like he puts out any tweet and boom,
25:59thousands of likes because,
26:01do you know what I mean?
26:02He doesn't even know probably how good these videos are.
26:05What's the thing?
26:06It's the thing at the start,
26:07when he first started announcing that made him appealing,
26:10is what makes him appealing on this thing.
26:12Like he's like good.
26:13Like, yeah, he can,
26:14he can do something in a minute,
26:15like very easily.
26:16Yeah.
26:17He doesn't know how hard that is.
26:18No.
26:18No.
26:19And it's genuine.
26:20It's like,
26:21he's truly like is obsessed with football and that's it.
26:24Like he's just football,
26:25football,
26:26football, football.
26:27He wants to donate back to football.
26:30But yeah.
26:30Yeah.
26:32I'll forget,
26:33but before his email scandal thing,
26:34he was like top of the chain.
26:37Like he was the guy.
26:39Yeah.
26:40So back to the Raiders for sure.
26:41Yeah.
26:42He was one guy.
26:43You must've got him for pennies on the dollar too.
26:46We got,
26:47we got,
26:48we got a good deal,
26:50but I mean,
26:50he'll,
26:51he'll,
26:52he'll make a ton.
26:53Like if we said,
26:54if we do it right,
26:55it's not like we're screwing.
26:55Cyber Monday.
26:56It's big for him.
26:57Cyber Monday.
26:58Now we're like,
26:59like I see Dion does.
27:00I just saw Dion just had a new show announced somewhere.
27:03Like if he took a job somewhere next year,
27:05he could still do stuff for you.
27:06Couldn't he or no?
27:08Yeah,
27:09he could.
27:09I mean,
27:10I don't think he's going to anyway.
27:11I mean,
27:12it's real.
27:13It will be amazing if he ends up coaching his kid
27:15in the NFL.
27:16Yeah.
27:17Like the storyline.
27:19I think his kid's going to be unbelievable in the NFL.
27:23It's hard.
27:24Like when you have the thing that John and why it's working
27:27is he's full-time us right now.
27:29Like,
27:30you text him,
27:30he's back.
27:31He's thinking content.
27:32He's being,
27:33he's fully in.
27:34When you have the guys,
27:35one foot in,
27:35one foot out generally doesn't work.
27:36And if you're a full-time coach,
27:37like honestly,
27:38how much time are you going to have?
27:40That's true.
27:40Yeah,
27:41that's fair.
27:42That's fair.
27:43What else do you guys have?
27:46Nothing.
27:47You have nothing else.
27:51I got to get with,
27:52with,
27:54with biz
27:56because we're moving on this golf thing
27:58and see what you guys want to,
28:00if you want to be involved in a little bit,
28:02like what is your plan for this?
28:03You've cost Jerry a million dollars over this.
28:05So what are we doing?
28:06Jerry gets to be in,
28:07right?
28:08Of course.
28:09Joe must not put him in now.
28:10I've already explained what I think this will be.
28:14Who?
28:15Yeah,
28:16but I'm saying like,
28:17you were saying pick it.
28:17Who's picking who gets invited?
28:18Like four play sent me a list of their like 64 top,
28:23like dream list.
28:24And we're continuing to build on it because I thought there
28:27were some gaps.
28:29So other people I may know,
28:29like Josh Richards,
28:30like,
28:31Hey,
28:32who are some gigantic influencers who golf?
28:34Like that may be good.
28:35How many people do you think would be together day of like
28:37how many,
28:38how many,
28:3964?
28:40You can get them all together in the same place in the same
28:41day.
28:42It's going to take forever from a planning perspective.
28:44No,
28:44I think we're,
28:45no,
28:46I give it like eight months.
28:47Okay.
28:48Okay.
28:49And you don't,
28:49and then how many people does one person win?
28:51No,
28:52I,
28:53well,
28:54I ideally,
28:55so I,
28:55my vision with this is sell sponsorships,
28:58ads,
28:59everything and break even.
29:00So all profit,
29:01which I think it'd be profitable to go to the prize pool.
29:03So we'll play with the money,
29:06but yeah,
29:07you'd want more than just a winner because then you can
29:08obviously have more shots than meet a lot.
29:11Who's prudent should be in this.
29:13Yeah,
29:13definitely.
29:14Yeah.
29:15Who from the company?
29:16So a four play four play guys,
29:17I'd say wit I'd say biz and Gruden and,
29:20and obviously yeah.
29:22Gruden and,
29:22and,
29:23and Jerry.
29:25I mean,
29:27the guy that's talking to us right now,
29:29he plays me.
29:30Yeah.
29:31Well,
29:32I thought it would do something like,
29:33I mean,
29:33possibly.
29:34Yeah.
29:35Even like,
29:36or even announcing or something.
29:37No.
29:38Yeah.
29:38Yeah.
29:39Yeah.
29:40I'll do that.
29:41That's fine.
29:42I mean,
29:43whatever.
29:43Yeah.
29:44I'll do it.
29:45Of course.
29:46There's a place in the Ozarks that we're looking at.
29:47Oh yeah.
29:48Yeah.
29:49Actually right now,
29:49our sandbaggers dropping.
29:50So you could get off this show and go watch our sandbagger
29:52right now.
29:54Dropped right now.
29:55God,
29:55there's a certain degree.
29:57Like there are certain people.
29:58I don't want like really rich people on this because I don't
30:02want like that,
30:03that defeats the purpose in my mind.
30:05Like,
30:06like John Gruden.
30:07I don't,
30:08I don't know that John Gruden would fall in that category.
30:10On a hundred million dollar contract with the Raiders.
30:13Like a 15 million a year.
30:14I think John Gruden's loaded.
30:15That's why he's working for you for free.
30:17Yeah.
30:18It's not free.
30:19Did he get all that?
30:19I don't even know.
30:20I bet you he's worth 150 million.
30:22But I see what you're saying.
30:23If you have Jersey,
30:24Jerry types were like,
30:26they'll kill though.
30:27They'll,
30:28they'll stab you.
30:28That's the whole point.
30:29Correct.
30:30But you are the Bryson DeChambeau in there.
30:31He's loaded.
30:32No,
30:33I didn't know he was going to help us run it.
30:34He was not going to be playing it.
30:36Oh,
30:37really?
30:37Yes.
30:38Oh,
30:39okay.
30:40He would maybe be like announcing or something.
30:41He was not a player.
30:43With biz,
30:43they have money.
30:44Like these guys are up.
30:45Biz would chop your fucking leg off for a million cash.
30:49But my point for a thousand.
30:50So visit biz,
30:53biz falls into the category of money.
30:56Definitely.
30:57It's if you truly like,
31:00don't like,
31:01I,
31:01like you can't,
31:02if I lost out on a million,
31:03I'm not going to be like,
31:04Oh fuck.
31:05I lost out on a million biz wood.
31:07Well,
31:08maybe I should be that then I would be fucking into it,
31:09but I will say like,
31:11yeah.
31:12I mean,
31:13it's tough when you have big names like that.
31:14Cause a lot of them are gonna have money.
31:15Totally.
31:15So to me,
31:16there's creators.
31:17Yeah.
31:18Well,
31:19yeah.
31:20They're not like the,
31:20the Bob does golf and like the four,
31:21those guys fall into that category.
31:23Too many.
31:24You don't want too many nice guys though.
31:25There's a lot of those guys are nice guys.
31:27Like the good.
31:27I was watching a golf thing on YouTube recently and they're
31:31so nice and nerdy.
31:32It wasn't Bob does sports that it's like,
31:34Jesus Christ.
31:36So I like the sandbaggers go check it out right now.
31:38A lot of chirping.
31:39Yeah.
31:39I don't like the nice stuff.
31:40Right.
31:41Well,
31:42if I'm in the mix,
31:43Kirk's in the mix,
31:44we can get it nasty.
31:44Yeah.
31:45I don't worry.
31:46I'm not worried about that.
31:48Like,
31:49I mean,
31:49I ran fucking rapport out of the company probably based on
31:52that fucking time.
31:53It's your greatest accomplishment.
31:54Thank you for that.
31:55He,
31:56he,
31:57he couldn't take the chirpy.
31:57He,
31:58he,
31:59he was playing like a plus 20 by the time I was done with
32:01him.
32:02Oh,
32:02I was sticking the other rapid port.
32:03The fact we'd have two,
32:04we've had two of those guys.
32:06No squids is unbelievable.
32:08Dan,
32:09Dan,
32:10Dan,
32:11Dan,
32:12Dan,
32:12Dan,
32:13Dan,
32:14Dan,
32:15Dan,
32:16Dan,
32:17Dan,
32:17Dan,
32:18Dan,
32:19Dan,
32:20Dan,
32:21Dan,
32:23that's,
32:23but that is a huge undertaking.
32:24Huge.
32:25And so I'm like talking to not just there's professional
32:29people involved.
32:31Yeah.
32:31Broadcasting things like that,
32:33that were involving.
32:34Okay,
32:35good.
32:36That'll be good.
32:37Yeah.
32:38That'll be good wit.
32:39Yeah.
32:39That'd be unbelievable.
32:40Actually.
32:41I just don't know.
32:42Yeah.
32:43I just don't know how this is going to play out depending
32:44on who's in it.
32:45You could have people thinking it's going to be a fun
32:48tournament that end up like leave.
32:49Oh,
32:50this isn't meant to be fun.
32:52No,
32:53I know,
32:54but people have no idea.
32:55That's the thing.
32:55Like I,
32:56I love foreplay guys,
32:57but they do that stuff with good,
32:58good guys who seem like nice guys as well,
32:59but it's a circle jerk.
33:01Yeah.
33:02No,
33:02this won't be.
33:03Okay.
33:04We need them involved.
33:05We want them all involved,
33:06but this,
33:07this,
33:07I'm going to make sure like I'm in a vision.
33:10If you have announcers calling the whole thing,
33:13but then like a Kirk on hole 14 with a mic,
33:17that'll turn that whole nasty.
33:19You almost got to make sure you have.
33:22Like you can like blow an air horn in the backswing.
33:24Like this should be like,
33:25not real golf almost.
33:27It would be like,
33:28it would be like our,
33:28our Ryder cup where there's,
33:31it's a lot of things that aren't kosher and golf.
33:35Like you're going to be standing an inch away from the guy
33:37shooting it like backswing,
33:40like a lot of stuff is going to go on.
33:41Is it teams of two?
33:43No,
33:43it's going to,
33:44no,
33:45the teams are going to continually rotate during out the
33:47whole tournament.
33:48I think,
33:49no,
33:50are you not with her?
33:51So I think he's confused.
33:53No,
33:53I'm not.
33:54So 60,
33:5564.
33:56Okay.
33:57Yep.
33:58Two teams of 32 to start Ryder cup format.
33:59One team is going to two teams of 32.
34:03I'm confused by that even,
34:04but go ahead.
34:06Okay.
34:06Well,
34:07we'll get in the nitty gritty,
34:08but you set up people out.
34:09Some may have to sit,
34:10whatever Ryder cup at the end of the,
34:12at the end of a day,
34:14half those people,
34:15the team that wins moves on the other team goes home.
34:18So you redo the teams.
34:21You have 32 left.
34:22Now you have four teams of eight,
34:23two matches going on.
34:24So it's just like handicaps is going to be like,
34:27it's just going to be hard.
34:29Yeah.
34:30But the handicaps get neutralized when you're doing that
34:31format.
34:32Well,
34:33no,
34:34not if,
34:35no,
34:36not if you have like,
34:36if you have like a team.
34:37Yeah.
34:38I don't know.
34:39It's hard.
34:40Yeah.
34:41But if you're drafting the teams,
34:41like how we did,
34:42and then you're creating,
34:43you're,
34:44you're like putting them out Ryder cup style that there's
34:45strategy and stuff involved.
34:47But if you're a 35 handicap,
34:48you have no chance of winning the million dollars,
34:53right?
34:54No,
34:54no,
34:55you will.
34:56Am I wrong?
34:57Wait,
34:58am I?
34:59No,
34:59first of all,
35:00I don't think we're going to have a 35 handicap.
35:01We will have handicaps involved,
35:02but we're going to,
35:03all these people are theoretically
35:05golfers that have put their golf on the internet.
35:07So if someone like we're going to have,
35:09this isn't just somebody showing up that we have no idea,
35:12sandbag,
35:13and like they're,
35:14they're handicapped.
35:15We're going to know how they golf.
35:16But you have a guy like wit and you have a guy like
35:19Jerry though.
35:20That's a 30 shot.
35:21You're saying there'll be enough,
35:22good enough,
35:22bad enough middle where you just combine them all.
35:25I guess.
35:25Yeah.
35:26I mean,
35:27it didn't work in the Ryder to be fair.
35:28That did work in the Ryder.
35:29Right.
35:30That's what I'm saying.
35:30Like there was all levels and who you're putting out and
35:32try to do it,
35:33but that it will all neutralize itself.
35:36Okay.
35:38Okay.
35:39So,
35:39all right.
35:40So we're off next week and then we're back so that we can
35:41two weeks from today,
35:42we can at last talk about how many episodes of surviving.
35:45God,
35:46how many episodes will be
35:48I think there's there,
35:49but there'll be three by the time we air next time,
35:52two or three,
35:53depending,
35:53two or three,
35:54depending on cyber Monday.
35:55Yeah.
35:56Wait,
35:57do you have a prediction?
35:58Who's going to win?
35:58All right.
35:59Bye.
36:00That's the end of it.
36:01No predictions.