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00:00How do we go about getting this off the chest?
00:02Like what do you have on there? Well, it's I mean, it's easy like
00:06Yeah, the Dodgers signed another player like Roki Sasaki
00:11He's either good or not good, but it seems like a lot of people wanted him and he went there
00:17So well, everybody wanted him because he's he's supposedly
00:21He's got the stuff of stars sure, and he didn't wait
00:25I don't want to go through the whole explaining all of this with the international bonus pool and all of that right if he had
00:31waited a few years he he could have done like what Yamamoto did and
00:37Commanded a very very big free agent salary. He didn't do that
00:41He wanted to come over and learn now from Major League Baseball players. So he's not only wildly talented
00:47He's incredibly young and incredibly cheap
00:50So who didn't want him?
00:52everybody can afford him and that's the point is
00:55baseball is so
00:57beyond broken and
00:59Like the best thing about football is that your team can suck
01:03Thank you, and you can play a last-place schedule
01:06You can get a couple of good players and an up-and-coming coach and you can make a quaint little run
01:12You can sneak in and be a playoff team and in basketball
01:16Basketball is a little different because if you're not a big market
01:19You're really in an uphill battle, but only baseball is even more dramatic that way
01:24Like if you're the Dodgers you get everyone and now that you can defer salary so you can pay showy Otani
01:31700 million dollars, but you don't have to pay any of it now. You could pay it all later
01:36So, you know you get all the best players and you don't really have a tax that you have to pay that's dramatic
01:42I guess that's kind of what I'm getting at and for those of you who are just joining
01:46Roki Sasaki is signing with the Los Angeles Dodgers
01:49So Grandy, would you read off the the potential starting rotation for for the Los Angeles Dodgers this year?
01:55Yeah, let's start at the top show. Hey, Otani. Okay, that's one then Blake Snell
02:00Hardly knew ya
02:02Yoshinobu Yamamoto
02:04Tyler glass now great and then likely Roki Sasaki as their number five as their number five
02:09So you asked if he was their number five starter. You weren't even kidding, right? Like yeah, he is
02:14Maybe maybe are they bringing Kershaw back to just to flank these guys?
02:18Like here's the point
02:20The reason I ask how do you go about getting this off the chest is I'm a Giants fan
02:25And I don't want to sound like this is just Dodger sour grapes
02:29It's not I'm not mad at the Dodgers for this not even a little bit. They should be proud of themselves
02:35They worked the system. They have the resources and they worked the system
02:40They have taken advantage of everything that is put in front of them if I were a Dodger fan barf
02:46I would I would love everything that they're doing
02:50however
02:51short-term game long-term loss
02:54Absolutely, not for the Dodgers, but for the game you're becoming college football. Grandy Lucas. Don't get mad at me
03:00I don't hate college football, but there are certain things about it
03:04And it's why for instance when you and I sort of debated this a few weeks ago
03:09With regard to what college football is doing now with their championship bracket and an eight-team playoff whether you love it
03:16Hate it think it's concocted
03:17Here's one thing that it does do it brings more people to the party
03:21college football for too many years was stuck in a thing where they would get to January and
03:27Basically the southeast corner of the country was the only group that was there cool Clemson's playing, Alabama
03:33I don't give a rip you got to give us an Oregon or an Arizona State or something
03:39You got to give us something and put it put us in the party, and that's what baseball is now doing you like
03:47It's great. Oh dynasties are great
03:49And yes traveling roadshows, and maybe this sounds ridiculous coming from a warrior fan the bottom line is this you're X'ing
03:5890% of your teams out of
04:01The
04:02National discourse and that is stupid
04:06It's stupid and the point you just made about football is a great one one of the most storied organizations in the NFL
04:12Lives in a tiny town in, Wisconsin
04:15That's great, and you can see the way people respond to that they have become a
04:24National brand and I've been there. It's tiny it is a thumbprint of a town and
04:30They have a presence across America as one of the great brands in sports
04:35The baseball will never have that you can be in a big city, and you're a tiny town
04:41Pittsburgh Cincinnati
04:43whatever
04:44I don't know what the fix is but there needs to be a fix baby. You can't do this
04:49This is just it's not it's not fun for anyone and and it will
04:54Even become boring in the end to Dodger fans. I promise you
04:58It's why warrior fans love the first title and the fourth title more than they love the ones in the middle
05:03Because those were too easy. That's an interesting notion about it becoming
05:07Boring because I'll turn again to the guys behind the glass who love the English Premier League even more than I do these guys are
05:13Diehards, and if you look at the prem as it is called from a colloquialism
05:19And you look at the top teams and what they spend there the teams that always finish in
05:24Maybe not always in the top four
05:26But they're always in the mix and it's man City Chelsea man you and Arsenal and Liverpool
05:31Those are the big five spenders and those five are usually in the top seven at least unless man
05:38You I mean man you has been in a little bit of a bad spot
05:41And so I don't know if those fans like these two behind the glass are Arsenal fans
05:45I don't know if they get bored with the fact that they're always good
05:50And it's a little different because Arsenal never really wins the pram you can leave that part out well
05:55I know but for mark who doesn't you know follow it as closely as we do but at least you know when you're an Arsenal
06:02Fan you're in it and when you're a Dodger fan a Yankee fan
06:06Red Sox fan for the most part, but I don't mind that I don't mind that and and and you guys tell me
06:12I mean is the Premier League set up where basically those teams that you didn't mention are all the Washington generals
06:19Because that's usually although this year. That's what we're doing. Oh, granny
06:22Well, he mentioned yesterday or the day before Nottingham Forest
06:25which is a team that had been recently promoted from the lower league right and I'm looking at the
06:31Salary that they pay and they might be
06:34They're at 14th and what they pay and yet they're third right now in the Premier League and I mentioned Leicester City to you before
06:40Which was the most unbelievable
06:42Title ever a team that had this kid Jamie Vardy who was a you know hard scrabble
06:49Nobody, and he became a thing and they won the league, but that doesn't ever really happen
06:54So it's kind of if you're not one of those teams if you're a fan of well
06:58You know a middling team you kind of know going in you have no chance. That's okay. That's always been
07:05Present in most sports sports. Yeah, that's always to a degree
07:08I just feel like baseball right now has now in a steroided version of what we're talking about
07:12No doubt like it's out of control
07:14You to the point where you look at what just happened to the A's is part of this conversation
07:20The the pirates the Reds the Marlins they these teams exist so that we can fill out a schedule
07:26You're like you've got five
07:29Superstar starting pitchers, and you couldn't name a Marlin
07:33You couldn't even name a bill. I mean don't make me name our name array
07:38Hit me with it. Let's go. Let's talk about it Rocco balladella
07:44Playing right, I think he's the manager of the
07:57It's too much, I'm looking at the salaries from last year and the Mets were at
08:03314 million the Yankees 308 and I won't bore you with the list
08:07But then you get to the bottom and the A's were at 62. Yeah, Pittsburgh 84
08:12So the A's paid 62 million in total payroll, which is one-sixth of what the Mets and Yankees pay
08:19It's not it's not a real sport is what is what you start flirting with and by the way again
08:25This is not sour grapes everything that we're saying right now
08:28I would argue opens teams like the Giants up to criticism because it's like if you do have great resources
08:35Why are you not acting like them?
08:37Why have you let them do this?
08:40Do they have a few more dollars than you maybe is their weather a little bit nicer sure
08:45But what do they really have on you?
08:48You'd like Red Sox Giants. What why why do you just sit here?
08:53No, I can't compete with the Dodgers and yet why?
08:57Why yes, you can
08:59mission rock
09:00Why are we getting stories from Andy Baggerly?
09:03Oh
09:05Corbin Burns
09:06Ownership doesn't want to spend bleep you you don't want to spend neither. Do I lower the pizza prices then?
09:14Like that it completely opens these teams up to criticism. So this is not sour grapes
09:21I wish my team could win I point to the Giants
09:25For why they've haven't been run better, but baseball does have an issue
09:30You do need to at a certain point look at this and go whoops
09:34What door did we open that the Dodgers legally walked through that we should have walked?
09:41Because this is not what we met. Well, it's Pandora
09:44It's Pandora's box and it's open and it's never
09:48Going back because the players will not go and say, you know what? We want a salary cap
09:54We want to cap this thing to make it fair and the owners are not gonna say, you know
09:58What we want a salary cap because we also want to make it fair the rich want to spend to win and the players are?
10:06Going to take every last dollar of their guaranteed money
10:08So this will never get fixed and what unfortunately is gonna happen is
10:13More things like the A's where the A's leave town because they can't make money here
10:19Which is a lie John Fisher?
10:21Weasel and you go to Sacramento and eventually Vegas and you get a cash grab and then you're not gonna be any better
10:28And you're not gonna suddenly spend 300 million to try to win
10:31You're gonna try to make money and look at your team our team
10:34Yeah down the road here
10:36all they want to do is break even and make a little bit of money and if they break even and they make I
10:42Don't know 20 million a year at Mission Rock or whatever. They're gonna make on that then they're thrilled
10:48Doesn't matter if you chase a title or not
10:51And and that's why they are opened up to to criticism and that's why I compare baseball right now
10:56To some of the feeling that I get across college football
11:00Which is that you're you're constantly facing games where you're like, well these we're not even
11:07Are we all from the same league like what what are we doing here, Alabama versus the Citadel?
11:13Are we playing a game here or are we just exchanging money filling up the stands having a dog?
11:2017 beers
11:21Screaming and yelling and going roll tide
11:23What are we doing here to go back to what dibs brought up about the Premier League in soccer?
11:27Yeah, there was there are games like that all the time in the Premier League
11:31You have a team like if switch town or Wolves or South Hampton
11:35I love one of the worst teams in the Premier League. What's different about the Premier League and it's because of the relegation factor
11:43Yeah
11:43just being in the Premier League feels like a championship in and of itself and you get so much money and it
11:50Boosters your club for the future just being at the highest level is enough of a championship for those teams
11:57and you can deal with
11:59Getting like six wins over the course of an entire season because you just are so overjoyed to be there
12:04That's not the case anywhere in North America
12:09And you guys are I think what you're talking about seems like that's been baked in the to the history of that
12:16Sport in that league similar to college football. I get that there's certain pieces of that. You can't change
12:23Alabama is what Alabama is because it's Alabama like I can't I can't put the Citadel on equal footing with Alabama
12:30No matter what we do, but Major League Baseball hasn't always been like this. That's not the way that they drew this up, right?
12:38Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is not a small town
12:41But they're over here being by the way, neither is Oakland
12:45But we're over here like
12:48Sorry can't compete can't even know why
12:52And and again, I don't blame the Dodgers but doors got left open that people walk through that should have been locked
12:59That that and and the Otani contract is exhibit a yeah that that should not be if that's gonna open us up to this
13:06Where you can literally have the best team with most of the best players
13:11Start adding all the other best players to it without having to spend any money
13:18Who the hell let that happen, right, that's not I don't know man you can say hey they earned it
13:24They're the ones who have that cash flow or whatever
13:28Sure, that's part of sports like Mark Davis and Jed York are not on equal footing
13:34the 49ers can afford more in signing bonus money because Jed York has more cash on hand and
13:41Because he's willing and so there will always be good owners in sports and bad owners in sports and those with more resources than others
13:48That's life. So I'm okay with that. But again this got injected with steroids
13:54Yeah in a way that there is no way that the sport intended to have happened
13:58We can eliminate 88% of the teams before the year even starts no doubt and I'm I'm just hearing you and I'm thinking about
14:06Exactly, you know what has happened in the time since you and I were kids and you're mentioning Pittsburgh and
14:13They won the whole thing in 79 and in 82. It was st. Louis, Baltimore in 83
14:21Detroit then Kansas City, Minnesota a couple years later, Oakland
14:25of course got there Cincinnati got one the year after and you think about who's won it of
14:30Recent vintage and it's the big spenders for the most part and it's the big markets
14:35I'm looking at the last time a small market team won the World Series and it was Kansas City back in 2015
14:42When they knocked off the Mets and when you're Kansas City and you get one
14:47You don't get to sustain it because the players that you have right are gonna want a ton when they're
14:53Superstars and they're gonna go elsewhere to these markets who could afford to give you a lot more money
14:58And I also like I get bothered by the fact that we even have to refer to them as a small market
15:03I understand that Kansas City is not New York or LA, but it's also Kansas City
15:08By the way, their football team's in the middle of a dynasty, right?
15:11No, that's a salary cap league again. That's right. That's the point. That's the that's the point and I know
15:17Baseball has always had the biggest baddest players union and and and the toothpaste is out of the tube
15:22Yeah, you're right. There will never be a salary cap, but there has to be something there has to be something
15:29And I would argue this is even for the players
15:32The play not everybody gets to get an offer from the Dodgers
15:36So that's great. If you get offered Blake Snell Michael Conforto, go ahead play for him
15:41Get your ring get your attention
15:44I'm not mad at you at all
15:46but at a certain point this starts to become a net negative for the players to
15:51Because there are more than half of the teams in Major League Baseball who will not offer big contracts anymore
15:59It's why Scott Boris's clients keep sitting there in February like not signing yet
16:04And you have to end up with one plus one. Yeah, because no one's out there offering deals anymore
16:09Part of this is on baseball and it's not directed at the players. It's directed at the owners
16:15Forget salary cap. There needs to be a salary floor
16:19You if you're an owner of a baseball team, you've got to spend you're not allowed to do this 62 million dollar payroll
16:26That's absurd when they finally did away with the
16:30revenue sharing that teams like Oakland relied on John Fisher played the system where
16:35You wouldn't spend that much money and it was because you were on the dole and the league was giving you money as an under
16:43Performing revenue team. There are so many things about baseball that are beyond broken and for me the biggest one
16:50Beyond what you're talking about is the fact that if you are a good player
16:54You got to do six years of
16:57Servitude before you even go out there and get your money. So if you are drafted by let's just say
17:03Minnesota and I think that was it Rooker for the A's who just signed that deal
17:08Yeah
17:08and you know
17:09he signed early and he signed for way below market because
17:13He knew that
17:14He was 30 years old and he would have had to have three more good years
17:18To go out there and really get a big deal not get hurt, right?
17:21So instead he's like I'm gonna take below market and get a bird in the hand kind of an offering, you know
17:27Mike you strem skis another great example a guy who he's been good and he's far outperformed his
17:33Arb1 Arb2 Arb3 deals, but you know, you're on the hook and that's just the way it goes in major league baseball
17:39And because if you're someone like yes who doesn't really get his big league shot until his late 20s, that's it
17:46That's your career. That's it when you're done with ARB. You're 36. Nobody wants you, right?
17:51Nobody wants to sign you do it to a deal
17:53Yes
17:53We'll never get an opportunity to even go get a three-year deal like never
17:58He will not get that opportunity because no one found him until he was like 28, right?
18:03so yeah, the whole system of
18:05of arbitration
18:07Can't stand I know there'll never be a salary cap if there is some way though
18:12Like again, if I were gonna rule this for for a day
18:16salary floor for owners
18:18absolutely
18:19arbitration system, where's the trash can and and this deferment of
18:24700 million that's gonna be a no from me dog, right? Like that's it
18:29But the cat like that
18:31I mean, it should still hit you to where on the annual luxury tax payment or whatever it is
18:36You have to pay in baseball that would that would be there
18:39Yes, and I'm not allowing you to defer 98% of it right exactly. No, no some fine, but
18:46Six hundred eighty million of the seven hundred. Yeah
18:50It's just
18:51Nonsense, and it's what we're doing. Well, and we all love football for so many reasons
18:56But the one big reason why I love it is the competitive balance aspect of it where you know
19:03Even a team like the Niners. Well, you know if you didn't have Brock Purdy and you had an actual quarterback
19:09Let's just say you still had Jimmy Garoppolo
19:11He's making 25 or he's making 30 or whatever. It would have been you'd be facing certain financial challenges
19:17but the Niners were able to get a
19:20Seventh round quarterback making a million dollars to be really really good and that turns out to be a gigantic advantage
19:26For you you drafted him and now you're gonna pay him and when you do pay him
19:31Well now the scale tips a little bit in the other direction
19:34So it becomes fair when you draft a guy and he works out and you pay him cheap labor
19:40And that's why quarterbacks go in the first round where you know, if Kayla Williams gets to be better next year
19:46Well, then good for you Chicago. You finally found a quarterback and you get to benefit from that, right? Exactly
19:51Well, I mean we could even take this conversation to the Golden State Warriors
19:56Yeah, I've always thought and this is across all sports if you drafted a player the rules should be totally different
20:03So, you know like someone just texted in and goes dibs
20:06The the rule you're that you're talking about is literally what allows the A's to keep Rooker
20:11Well, here's what I would do forget your stupid arbitration stuff, but give the A's
20:16total different rights of
20:18negotiation to Rooker because they drafted him like the Splash Brothers would all still be together and
20:25And and there would be so many other things that the Warriors would still be allowed to do
20:30Financially if they didn't have to suffer the same
20:34Consequences luxury tax penalties for signing their own guys now if we're talking about Durant Durant or Iguodala different conversation
20:43But like Draymond Green Steph Curry and Klay Thompson salaries should not
20:48Tally up on the luxury tax the same way some other contract would they do give you bird rights though
20:54Right when you have a guy which allows you to you know
20:57keep a guy a little bit more easily, but I think the NBA is closer to with their cap and their luxury tax to
21:04you know making it equitable the problem with the NBA is
21:08One player is such a huge part of any team that that one player
21:14Aka Jimmy Butler and you know what we talked about with the Ramona Shelburne
21:18Article if you're one really good best player decides that he wants to to blow up your spot
21:24Then you're in a really tough spot