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00:00:14Welcome to another conversation here on Manhood.
00:00:17Today's topic is a very interesting one.
00:00:19You know, we do it every day, whether we think about it,
00:00:23whether we are cognizant of our actions.
00:00:25But the point is, it happens.
00:00:26One way or the other, it's what we consider our fashion,
00:00:29how we groom ourselves, and our hygiene.
00:00:33Sometimes we are aware of it, and sometimes we're not,
00:00:37but others certainly are.
00:00:39So, topic, fashion, hygiene, men's grooming,
00:00:42all as it pertains to men and manhood.
00:00:45To my right, Johanse IODK, Behavior Change Consultant.
00:00:49To his right, Garth Voze, men's advocate and entrepreneur.
00:00:53And to his right, Sarius Gishard, radio presenter here at Guardian Media.
00:01:00So, we're really happy to have all of you here, gents.
00:01:03Everybody has their own styles, their own ways of expressing themselves.
00:01:08And that's fine.
00:01:08But then, you know, so that comes down to fashion,
00:01:11as long as it doesn't offend, or if it offends,
00:01:14as long as, you know, it depends on the community which you reside in,
00:01:18or where you decide to be fashionable in.
00:01:21But then it comes down to things like hygiene.
00:01:24Yeah.
00:01:24And grooming, you know, again, but grooming is all still about appearance.
00:01:29But when we start to look at hygiene now,
00:01:31that's now where it literally could affect somebody else in your environment.
00:01:36So, what do we take away from our understanding from fashion, hygiene, grooming,
00:01:41all encompassing into men's expression?
00:01:45I would say generally, right?
00:01:47You all could correct me if you think I'm wrong.
00:01:49Generally, in society, men view that having less of a hygiene than women, in general.
00:01:58And sometimes it can even be praised in some circles, you know.
00:02:02You smell like a man.
00:02:04You know, you know, a man don't need to pour on all that lotion, right?
00:02:09A man don't need to do this, don't need to do that.
00:02:11So, I think it's an important topic because I've learned that through the years,
00:02:17and the ironic thing is mostly with my interactions with women and in relationships
00:02:22where, you know, a woman is saying or taking care of yourself.
00:02:25And at first, I was a kind of resistant, you know, trying to soften me up, right?
00:02:29But I realize even something simple as putting on lotion, right?
00:02:35You know, I don't really like how dry skin does look.
00:02:38But I never really had like a regime or a thing, you know, make sure just if I happen
00:02:42to get some cream, I happen to get some cream I'll put on.
00:02:45But I realize it's important.
00:02:46Just something simple as putting lotion on your hand.
00:02:50The basics, my parents did, which is how often you should beard, brush your teeth,
00:02:56exactly groom your hair, and when I got beard, learned to groom my beard.
00:02:59That was the basics.
00:03:00But the other little things that taught us a little too frou-frou at those times.
00:03:04Because when you're grabbing lotion, you're grabbing for my sister.
00:03:07Most times.
00:03:08No, but you're right.
00:03:10But, you know, let us determine the difference.
00:03:13And God, this is where you have expertise in, as well as being a man, but expertise in
00:03:17the next generation, the outlook of skin care, men taking care of themselves, and the differences
00:03:24between health and safety and pleasantries.
00:03:28So there's health in terms of, and safety with regards to making sure, you know, men who
00:03:34don't like to put on sun lotion, sun cream, you know, cream in your skin, all of these
00:03:38different things, if it depends on the environment which you're working in.
00:03:42You know, health, you know, brushing your teeth, grooming yourself, all these things are part
00:03:47of health.
00:03:47I mean, yes, it could result in smells and things that are unpleasant.
00:03:51But the bottom line, when you come down to the foundation, the core, is health and safety.
00:03:56And then you have things like cologne and even that, as we get delve further into this
00:04:02conversation, where they're now saying that those things are unhealthy for you by spraying
00:04:05these toxic things onto your skin.
00:04:07Yeah.
00:04:08So, you know, you talk about the health part of it, and you talk about something that
00:04:11sunscreen, as simple as sunscreen.
00:04:14Growing up in the Caribbean, you'd already hear about sunscreen, right?
00:04:17You go to the pool, you go to the beach, you're like, I go to the beach.
00:04:19Which is when you kind of travel outside, and you kind of see, or you do some research,
00:04:23like I like to research stuff, that regardless of the color or the type of skin, you need
00:04:29sunscreen because of the fact that if you're outside a lot, and we're outside a lot, if
00:04:34I go and play football in the street, right, you're outside in the sun.
00:04:37And I think that's one of the things that now you have, you know, like my son is in that
00:04:42age where now he understanding that, hey, this would, one, make me look better later
00:04:47on, right, because now you're taking care of the skin.
00:04:51So, you talk about frou-frou, right?
00:04:54Yeah, because I would have to grab my sister lotion, whereas now full circle, now we're
00:04:58trying to come up with things for mental use where it doesn't necessarily have to be the
00:05:03whole skincare routine.
00:05:04But even simple as the sunscreen, one of the things that we didn't learn growing up.
00:05:09We're outside in the sun, you ain't outside in the sun.
00:05:10With the bald head, can't be outside in the sun too long.
00:05:13Yeah, that's it.
00:05:14Now without some sunscreen.
00:05:15And the only thing you're worried about at that point is the sunburn.
00:05:17Yeah.
00:05:18You know, but other than that, you're not looking at the effects of, you know, skin
00:05:20cancers, other types of ailments resulting in that.
00:05:24There's also, with regards to people thinking that, nah, because of my pigmentation, I'm
00:05:29good, you know?
00:05:30And then even things in the PF of a lot of these sunscreens, you know, where they say,
00:05:35you know, I think it's over 50 really, it doesn't make any sense.
00:05:38But it's prevention rather than cure.
00:05:40But those regimes, as we come back to, so again, you know, these are the obvious, the
00:05:44needs of, you know, men and women, once you're human, to take those sort of considerations.
00:05:50And that awareness needs to be put out there more that regardless of your pigmentation,
00:05:54you need to ensure that you're protecting yourself.
00:05:58Again, one from sun, the health, other health benefits, for example, as we spoke about brushing
00:06:05your teeth and these things.
00:06:06But outside of that, right, there's also, as you mentioned, a regime.
00:06:11Men are now, which should have been there all the time, you know, mani pedis, facials,
00:06:17and it's not necessarily just in the business you're in.
00:06:20You know, my 20 plus years as a presenter, you know, being an anchor, et cetera, you know,
00:06:26that was par for the course.
00:06:27You know, that you had to take care of your skin.
00:06:30You want to go, there were no crusty feet and your nails with your skin showing.
00:06:35And you, you know, there's a lot of elements.
00:06:38And yes, there's an element of makeup that you wear.
00:06:40You know, I still, as I mentioned, put a little dye in the bed, you know, only because it's
00:06:45halfway white and halfway black, like a sort of, you know, 101 Dalmatians type thing.
00:06:51Ying and yang.
00:06:52So there are things that, you know, in my case, it is par for the course, but you see
00:06:58more and more men now, and I'm using the word, taking care of themselves.
00:07:03Yeah.
00:07:03If you look at things like skin serum, that at some point I wouldn't even know about it
00:07:08until now, you kind of see that as part of the routine, right?
00:07:12You talk about, like, the makeup and stuff.
00:07:14It was a particular type of person that would know about that.
00:07:17So we went to modeling school in Atlanta for a couple of years.
00:07:20They show you how to cut hair, how to put on makeup, how to put on, power on your face
00:07:24the right way.
00:07:25Things that I would not have thought about if I was in that space.
00:07:28So now you're looking at people who are not in that space.
00:07:30How do we educate them on these things that would, one, give them a better visual look?
00:07:35Because that's what it is about, right?
00:07:37Especially with skincare and stuff.
00:07:38But this is over time.
00:07:40Like, you talk about sunburn.
00:07:42Sunburn, I think, is to the point where we look at it as it was a normal thing.
00:07:47But it actually is not.
00:07:48It's not about the skin being burnt by the sun, literally.
00:07:51If you think about that aspect alone, how damaging is that to the skin?
00:07:55Long term, yeah.
00:07:56So, Zares, you are the youngest member here at this moment.
00:08:00And we know that the Gen Zs and, you know, and then, of course, the even younger generation,
00:08:04the Gen Alphas, you know, of course, one generation teaches the other.
00:08:07I'm not really, you know, and again, this is my perception.
00:08:11I'm not really focused specifically on fashion, but more on expression.
00:08:15Well, I mean, that's a deep hole to dive into, I think, especially in 2024 now,
00:08:24where fashion and expression is kind of tied to your identity and sometimes even your sexuality.
00:08:32It's a lot to do with, for instance, I'll say it in plain.
00:08:39There's persons who prefer a very simple presentation in terms of very, very functional.
00:08:47They want to wear a shirt that fits, pants that fit.
00:08:50Black shirt, denim pants.
00:08:51Correct.
00:08:51And shoes that are comfortable, depending on the job that you do.
00:08:55And there are the persons, male or female, where they choose to express in a more flamboyant manner,
00:09:01where it's sometimes the brightest shirts that you can find.
00:09:06Sometimes it's the brightest pants.
00:09:08Sometimes it's haircuts that are out there, for lack of a better term.
00:09:14Or sometimes it's hair dyed to an unnatural length.
00:09:17And it falls into that category of expressing yourself in whatever manner you find necessary.
00:09:25Because I think my generation has grown up seeing a lot of people who are not afraid in any arena,
00:09:32in any demographic, no matter where they are, to express their true selves,
00:09:36no matter the consequences in that regard.
00:09:40So when you say, so part of that is living your truth.
00:09:43And we always talk about that, Johansi, about living your truth.
00:09:46And, you know, but perception, perception is perception.
00:09:49You know, when they express themselves, right, the perception, I might look at that and say,
00:09:54but that's weird.
00:09:55You know what I'm saying?
00:09:56Because I don't like that.
00:09:57That's not my fashion.
00:09:58That's not my statement.
00:10:00But somebody else, you know, to someone else, that's normal.
00:10:03So, you know, we have this discussion all the time where, you know,
00:10:06some people say I identify as a unicorn.
00:10:08Now, to me and my circles and how I grew up, I think, what madness you talking about there, right?
00:10:13But to the next generation and the person I've spoken to, you know, they're just like,
00:10:19what's wrong with that?
00:10:19They express themselves.
00:10:20They don't see an issue with it.
00:10:22But I am of, you know, emotional, my emotional intelligence and my maturity is now open to respect for what you believe in.
00:10:31It mightn't be what I believe in, but I respect you enough to say that if that's the way you want to go,
00:10:36what you want to say or how you want to express yourself, so be it.
00:10:40As long as it doesn't affect me in a negative manner where I can't remove myself, because there's a difference.
00:10:46It can affect you and you can choose to remove yourself, but you can also choose, you know,
00:10:51if you choose to be in that moment and it's not really a deal breaker, then, you know,
00:10:56if you want to zog half your head, you know, and paint it blue and have, you know,
00:11:02I don't know, you know, half a soft drink can swinging from your head as you.
00:11:07Hasn't that always been something since the beginning of time in terms of a clash of generations?
00:11:12Because the generation that is 20, 50, sometimes, you know, 60 years older than your generation
00:11:19would have said the same thing when you were our age or when you were younger than us.
00:11:23You would have said, they would have said certain things about what you all were doing at the time
00:11:27was, in your own words, weird or just maybe I'm not ready for that yet or it just, it doesn't make sense.
00:11:34I don't understand it.
00:11:35Well, I remember the first time I pierced my ears, you know, my father looked at me and was like, you know,
00:11:40called me a couple names and to me, I was like, listen, you don't understand how much gills
00:11:44are you going to get now?
00:11:45Yeah.
00:11:46Your father called you something.
00:11:47My father said, okay, all right, he going to start seeing the earrings now or no?
00:11:51He going to start taking the earrings now.
00:11:52That's all he said to me.
00:11:53That was it.
00:11:54And I was the first time I pierced one side.
00:11:55I mean, I went back and pierced the other side too.
00:11:57Right.
00:11:57I think to touch on what you said there, a lot of the generational stuff where you say
00:12:02every generation has that, those type of people, right?
00:12:06If you go back to the generations that we had before, like my dad and before that,
00:12:11a lot of them are not as exposed as we are.
00:12:14So you're more open to it.
00:12:15I am more open to it and more trying to understand, okay, well, maybe it's a little different,
00:12:18but they had hippies.
00:12:20They had all these different kinds of people.
00:12:22So maybe because of the generations that have been there, you have one generation.
00:12:27When we look at that generation, which is your generation, we're more open-minded
00:12:30because we're more expanded.
00:12:32Our mind has been expanded more.
00:12:33We have more access to see more of the differences.
00:12:36Whereas if I'm in a community, everybody in my community is all that it is.
00:12:40Like I would say, my son, traveling is the main thing.
00:12:44So from two years old, you're traveling because I need you to see other people.
00:12:47Correct.
00:12:48Have conversations.
00:12:49Realize this music is not the only music.
00:12:51So I think that's what bridges the gap a little bit better now because we're more
00:12:56open to understanding, okay, well, maybe you have something to, you know,
00:12:59maybe the Coca-Cola thing or whatever in your ears is a thing.
00:13:04No man is a...
00:13:06As men, especially as men, it's important.
00:13:09It's important not to live life in a linear, myoping manner.
00:13:13And when it comes to style, style really, the sky's the limit.
00:13:17Because I remember when I was in secondary school, wearing big pants was a thing, right?
00:13:22I remember you're getting two and a half yards of clothes, right?
00:13:26To make up pants.
00:13:27But I remember I had one guy in secondary school, his pants was always...
00:13:31I wouldn't say it's tight, but it's always fitted.
00:13:33And he used to get real torque fit.
00:13:36But the thing is, he kept that style in, no matter what.
00:13:38That was his style.
00:13:40So when the big pants went out and small pants come back in, he was already trending.
00:13:46Yeah, so now he gets more gills.
00:13:48But you might find that now he wants to change to something else because he wants to stand out.
00:13:54It was the individuality.
00:13:55If you want to be a leader, always go in the opposite direction.
00:13:57Which is fine.
00:13:59And I think that's the important part of being men first,
00:14:01to have the courage enough to be able to dress, look, take care of ourselves
00:14:07in a way that is in accordance to us.
00:14:10I'm not saying us.
00:14:11I'm not trying to be like you or you or you,
00:14:13but I'm making sure I'm finding the way to take care of myself.
00:14:17So do you think that that, and as you talk about men,
00:14:20do you think that that allows or makes men a little bit more isolated,
00:14:25the ones that think like that?
00:14:26Because I feel as though sometimes when you, okay, so I don't drink.
00:14:30So I don't really go out, right?
00:14:31Because most of my friends drink.
00:14:32So I really wouldn't go out.
00:14:33If it's something to do like a function, yeah, I'll do that.
00:14:36But do you think that when you have that stance,
00:14:37it isolates you from the majority of men?
00:14:41It can, depending on your circle, and it also depends how you deal with it, right?
00:14:46Because I don't drink at all.
00:14:47Your circle is important.
00:14:49But when I go to the restaurant,
00:14:50That's what I want to touch on, yeah.
00:14:50When I go to the restaurant, I ask for coconut water but in a wine glass, right?
00:14:55If you understand what I'm saying.
00:14:56Once I have food right there.
00:14:57So it depends your circle because you can still hang with your friends on the occasions they're going to dinners and so on.
00:15:06But if your circle is a circle of people always liming, then the obvious is choose a different circle.
00:15:15Because your community, you involve yourself in the community of where you want to be.
00:15:19Yes, you're tribe.
00:15:20And you're tribe.
00:15:21So if, for example, I don't really drink myself.
00:15:25I drink maybe on a social, you know, maybe one, a social interaction.
00:15:29Because the nature of Trinidad the bigger is where you're drinking.
00:15:32So I might take one and, you know, every now and again, I might feel for maybe two.
00:15:35But the majority of the time, you know, I'm not, if I'm going to a house, lime, I don't feel the need to drink.
00:15:41But exactly that.
00:15:42The same friends and family are at a house, lime, or we're going out for a meal where I don't have to have a glass of wine because we're eating.
00:15:49We're doing other things.
00:15:50We're having other occasions.
00:15:52But I wanted to say that, and to bring it back to hygiene and apart from the health and safety side of things, that is also cultural.
00:16:02Because you talk about traveling.
00:16:04Now, you can, I'm not calling any names, but there are countries that you can go to.
00:16:07And what may be considered in Trinidad and Tobago stink, right?
00:16:13To them, it's natural, you know, the pheromones, et cetera, or not doing certain things, not using certain products.
00:16:21You know, back in the day, they were called certain people hippies as a result of not wanting to use certain things or growing hairs in particular areas or not grooming.
00:16:30And things change.
00:16:32People, in certain circumstances, evolve, certain people are still doing those things.
00:16:37Correct.
00:16:38And does it come down, you want to say, then to horses for courses?
00:16:41Well, again, every man to his own order, you know, right?
00:16:46I remember I went to school in the U.S.
00:16:49And during wintertime, most people didn't bathe at all, right?
00:16:54Or they probably bathe every two, three days, something like that.
00:16:57And that was the norm.
00:16:58But I don't know anything about that, whether it's cold or not, right?
00:17:02I had to find myself, I'd take a bath, if you understand.
00:17:05So, bandage my order, and they thought, well, I remember my roommate thought, well, he's Mr. Clean, and they're thinking, and I was like, in my mind, I was like, but.
00:17:15That's how you grew up.
00:17:15But honestly, that would be a cultural thing for you, too, because, I mean, here, you know, I mean, that's part of it.
00:17:21So, that, we need to take a short break, but I'll give you a story when we come back from the break.
00:17:30You know, we talk about fashion, hygiene, grooming, here at Manor.
00:17:44Hi, guys, welcome back to Manor.
00:17:45We're talking about hygiene.
00:17:47We're talking about fashion.
00:17:49And I know Rob had a story before we went to a break.
00:17:52So, I definitely want to hear the story.
00:17:54I could have been laughing.
00:17:54I want to know what it is about.
00:17:55I started to laugh just thinking about it, because as Johansson said it.
00:17:58So, it's one, a story, and two, it's the fact that I, myself, was guilty.
00:18:02Because when you're in Trinidad, of course, climate, weather, plays a big, you know, temperature, plays a big role.
00:18:09In, you know, Trinidad, you could easily bathe two, three times a day, right?
00:18:12Sometimes more depending on what your job role is or where you're at, you know, to cool down.
00:18:16But when you're in some of these countries, like, for example, when I studied in Germany, there was, I mean, it's bitter cold.
00:18:24So, I start, I went there thinking, ah, that's real stink boy.
00:18:27You're only in Baden in three, four days.
00:18:29And when you get your first taste of that winter, right, that you then start to understand that, okay, maybe, maybe Baden right now isn't the right thing to do.
00:18:42Because you're literally, you're leaving your dorm, you're going down the corridor, and even though the windows are closed, it's cold.
00:18:49Your floor is cold still, yeah.
00:18:50The floor, everything is cold.
00:18:51Because, I mean, you're watching, you're watching the pennies and the Deutsche Mark in this case, and you don't want, well, now the Euros, but it was Deutsche Mark then.
00:18:59And you're saying to yourself that the whole place isn't heated.
00:19:02So, when you put on the hot water and all of these factors take place.
00:19:07So, I did find myself, full confession, Baden every other day in certain circumstances.
00:19:11Now, of course, when summer came around, it was a bit different.
00:19:14But what I couldn't deal with is sometimes in the, you know, that's where the saying, if you look at the history of the saying, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
00:19:23It would have been in the medieval times or times where people would share a bathtub, right?
00:19:29And then, of course, if you're not the first, every time somebody go in, of course, that water gets dirtier and dirtier.
00:19:35And it was ironic that I had done some research on where some of these sayings that I used to hear my parents talk about.
00:19:40And so, to experience that day where I would hear, you know, the student came to me one day and said, I left the water there for you.
00:19:48So, I thought, well, they ran a bath for me or they left a bucket.
00:19:51But they left the water itself.
00:19:53They left the water, brother.
00:19:54They left the water that they now being in there for me.
00:19:57So, I was like, hell no.
00:20:00And I drained it.
00:20:02But at the same time, you know, you'd go to saunas or baths and it was unisex.
00:20:06You know, everybody's there, practically nude.
00:20:08And that's part of their culture.
00:20:11But I'm just saying to the fact that in that grooming sense, I understood that, you know, when people say, you know, bath every day.
00:20:17I noticed some people probably listening to say, hey, that's still nasty.
00:20:20But, you know, don't knock it.
00:20:23Did you?
00:20:23Because, you know, naturally, when we're in Dong Haen, the Caribbean, you feel it.
00:20:27Like, there's a feeling of almost feeling, to say maybe the word is grimy.
00:20:31Exactly.
00:20:32After a certain amount of time has passed.
00:20:34Yeah.
00:20:34In that cold weather, you notice it more.
00:20:37You're not feeling grimy.
00:20:37I know I didn't feel it, but I know it was programming because I used to laugh at myself.
00:20:41So, I'm just saying, you know, really, you don't really need to bed.
00:20:44But you hear your mother in the back of your head.
00:20:47I feel funny.
00:20:48Like, to say, I'm bed today, it's feeling funny now.
00:20:51That's what you're talking about.
00:20:52Culturally, it's a conditioning, right?
00:20:54Culturally, that's what you're used to.
00:20:56So, you talk about the grimy feeling here.
00:21:00Do you know how hot it would be here?
00:21:01So, I live both East Coast, West Coast.
00:21:04Sometimes, when it's cold, you're like, oh, I guess I could go fall asleep.
00:21:08But, the condition to move it up, right?
00:21:10And we're talking about New York in particular.
00:21:12New York weather.
00:21:13So, West Coast now, we're talking about LA, West Coast, sideway to have deserts.
00:21:16Right.
00:21:17It's hot.
00:21:17It's 110 degrees.
00:21:19So, there, you want to live in a pool.
00:21:23So, like you said, it is a conditioning and a programming because we're so used to that here.
00:21:27And I think for men in different cultures, it will be different.
00:21:30I think the main thing with that is, like, now you have society making it a point to showcase more grooming for men.
00:21:38Most of your celebrities are more grooming.
00:21:40Young and older are not grooming.
00:21:42You look at people, like, celebrities that have aged well.
00:21:45What's the first thing you do?
00:21:46All of them on a commercial for a serum.
00:21:49Yeah.
00:21:49Tom Cruise at almost 60 years old.
00:21:52Brad Pitt.
00:21:52Yeah.
00:21:53I mean, you're just looking at people who you were watching when you were growing up or who you see in movies.
00:21:57And you're watching what they did.
00:21:58And as usual, society telling you, hey, that's what you're supposed to do.
00:22:01And taking care of themselves.
00:22:02I mean, we can talk.
00:22:03So, what I want us to do as we, you know, as we continue to have that conversation, you know, there's two aspects that really pertain to or relate to manhood in particular.
00:22:12You know, where they always tell you, one, dress for the job that you want.
00:22:15Right.
00:22:16So, how people feel when they have a haircut, for example, how they groom themselves.
00:22:20You know, I'm seeing all these beard groomings going on and people dying and filling in all the blanks, have the perfect beard, dressing a particular way.
00:22:28As opposed to, so, as you mentioned about when you talk about simplicity, the difference in someone dressing, I just put on our old pants and our Crocs and going out.
00:22:38And then that person, when they put on a nice suit, you know, how they feel about themselves, how they comport themselves at that point really does make a difference.
00:22:47And so, I want us to have a further conversation on that, as well as our outlook as men, when we're taking care of ourselves, like going to the gym, doing different things, or in certain cases, letting yourself go where you have terms like the dad board now.
00:23:00So, and how women view it, but also how we view women who either don't take care of themselves or, in some cases, maybe take care of themselves too much, when we're now talking about plastic surgery.
00:23:14And how we feel.
00:23:15I knew that he's taking care of himself.
00:23:17So, let's talk about it.
00:23:19I think the role that women play in men's hygiene is underrated because I think it's a 50-50, right?
00:23:27I think half of it is what your baseline comfort level of hygiene is.
00:23:33What you, if you had no woman to influence you in your life or no woman to try and impress, I think your baseline is, well, my nails should probably be maybe once every two weeks, three weeks, if I really have to see, you know, the lady this week.
00:23:46How often you wash your hair, how often you go to the barber for a trimmer, if you shave by yourself, or if you just rely on the barber exclusively.
00:23:54A lot of that has to do with a woman's influence.
00:23:58Whether it's women that you're living with or women that you're trying to impress if you're out in the dating market and you're trying to court.
00:24:06I think that's a huge part of it.
00:24:08And it's every layer from hygiene to even, just like jobs, it's a layer, I think.
00:24:17You know what I mean?
00:24:17And so, and Garth and Johan say, you know, from persons, one, as a scientist of sorts, with regards to the mental aspect of this thing that we discussed.
00:24:31And you, of course, Garth, in your experience as an entrepreneur and an advocate, you know, that is this then a direct representation of how you feel about yourself or how you comport yourself or how you take care of yourself?
00:24:43A direct correlation to what is going on mentally?
00:24:47Yes.
00:24:48Yes, I would say that immediately because, you know, there's nature and nurture, right?
00:24:54So nature is what we're naturally born with.
00:24:56Nature is what our environment did to us.
00:24:58And traveling, and that's why I'm advocating again, people travel, go somewhere, go somewhere besides where you're from just to see something different.
00:25:07Because I remember, okay, in Trinidad, most times we have home clothes.
00:25:14And most people, home clothes don't really look that good.
00:25:16But when I went to school away, I carried some of my home clothes.
00:25:20And I remember immediately when I put it on and then looked to see everybody, I was just, nah, boy, I can't dress.
00:25:25This was way below the standard because the clothes they would wear home was good, good clothes.
00:25:31It wasn't clothes they would wear to go out, but at least it had a fashion.
00:25:33Home clothes had a fashion and a style to it too.
00:25:36And the truth is, when I adopted this style, I felt better.
00:25:42Not just to blend in or to be part of it, but wearing things of quality felt different.
00:25:49And I remember thinking, you know, hmm, you know, this is a different thing.
00:25:53Not to say that I grew up poor or anything or starving, but that was just the culture, wearing old clothes or the clothes that you couldn't wear out anymore.
00:26:04Home versus getting a unique style.
00:26:07So I would say, as a direct to the brain, and even last week, last week on a segment I did on mental health matters, we spoke about old underwear.
00:26:18Right?
00:26:18And we were talking about...
00:26:20With or without holes?
00:26:22Well, with or without holes.
00:26:24With the holy ones especially.
00:26:26And I was saying, it was my experience first.
00:26:28I remember looking at more than we were like, you have a hole, and I thought, why are you still wearing this?
00:26:32And my thought was because nobody's seeing it.
00:26:35And then when I asked around, the general consensus was nobody's seeing it.
00:26:39But you'd wear a new suit, you'd wear a nice suit, nice shoes, nice car, but nobody's seeing the underwear.
00:26:44And then I thought, well, why?
00:26:46Why are you okay with wearing something of low quality because somebody's not seeing it?
00:26:50Are you dressing for others?
00:26:52Is it?
00:26:52And then I realized I had to hold myself to a higher standard.
00:26:57I'm not saying it has to be a $500,000 and $5,000 underwear now, you know.
00:27:01But you hold yourself to a standard, whatever that standard is.
00:27:05As a man, I think all men should have a standard, whether it is grooming, whether it is fashion.
00:27:10Have that standard and then maintain it.
00:27:12So how your mother voice didn't come in your head at that point?
00:27:15Because we want to know all old people, our parents, grandparents, all of them had the same thing.
00:27:22See, I feel like you know what I'm about to say.
00:27:24Tell me.
00:27:25Make sure you have one underwear because if someone happens to you, I'll take you.
00:27:29You see, this is what I was about to tell you.
00:27:30And I'm glad you brought that up too because that's what my mind is thinking.
00:27:33But we go back into the look good, feel good thing, right?
00:27:36So come to people who take care of themselves in the gym, right?
00:27:39It's our look good, feel good thing.
00:27:40We live in a visual society regardless of what we would want it to be or not unless you remove yourself.
00:27:44Look matters.
00:27:45Look matters, visual matters, grooming, hygiene, all that stuff matters.
00:27:49So that's more of a look good, feel good thing.
00:27:51So like you being exposed to the states and that type of standard, as you say, isn't that we have a lower standard?
00:27:59It's just that our standard is this.
00:28:01And I think that is one of the things that when people travel and they see different things, they start to still now reflect on self.
00:28:07How, as a man, how do I carry myself?
00:28:10And you were saying something earlier about traveling.
00:28:12I've been traveling since I was two years old.
00:28:16And if it's not for football, it's for something else.
00:28:18And you see how people travel in these days?
00:28:21You see the standard that they have as men traveling these days?
00:28:25If it's a Crocs and some slippers and a droggers.
00:28:28And they could.
00:28:29I had to travel with soft pants and shoes and a shirt.
00:28:32This is years ago.
00:28:33So now you see all those things changing.
00:28:35And I think, yes, it is attached to the mental, like you were saying earlier.
00:28:40But I also think it's attached to a lot of them are trying to fit in.
00:28:44Because the majority of people are not traveling in the shirts and the pants.
00:28:47Right?
00:28:48A lot of people are traveling in Crocs.
00:28:50Comfortable clothes.
00:28:51Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:52Right.
00:28:52And, you know, I think I disagree with that.
00:28:54I disagree with it.
00:28:55I think it should be some balance, let's say, in between, which I know balance for most people.
00:29:01For all of us, it's something hard to find.
00:29:03Finding balance is easier said than done.
00:29:05But it's like, and I was going to say something that may be a little controversial here, right?
00:29:11When I look at older pictures, historical pictures, and even movies of what a gangster used to look like.
00:29:19Gangsters used to be in suits.
00:29:21Right?
00:29:21Federal in cap.
00:29:23Right?
00:29:23And then when I look at gangsters in Trinidad, right?
00:29:26And you're in an old vest.
00:29:29Yeah.
00:29:29You're in an old pants.
00:29:30Right?
00:29:32To me, I'm not glorifying the criminals before, but stylists, stylists.
00:29:38But what did I represent, though?
00:29:39What did the tailor suit represent back in the day?
00:29:43Wealth.
00:29:44Prestige.
00:29:44Prestige.
00:29:45Wealth.
00:29:45Rank.
00:29:46Rank.
00:29:46Right.
00:29:47So guess what?
00:29:47We remove the prestige.
00:29:49We remove the wealth.
00:29:51We keep the rank.
00:29:52If I see the bad man in my community looking a certain type of way, that's what I follow.
00:29:57At that time, people were driving and people didn't have cars.
00:30:00The men who had the cars were the gangsters and they would shoot up our whole house.
00:30:03But they were dressed because they were the ones making the money, regardless of where
00:30:06it was from.
00:30:07And they would carry themselves differently.
00:30:09One, because people, from the time they see them, they know who they are.
00:30:11So you're identifying this individual as this person.
00:30:14These people are doing the same thing now.
00:30:16It's just switched.
00:30:17The generation switched.
00:30:18The mentality switched.
00:30:19Now they're identifying themselves with the people who they see doing the same thing
00:30:22in the community that they're in from a different perspective.
00:30:25So I agree with you in terms of that's the most valid point you can make.
00:30:30I used to also look at them back, oh, that's a real tailored suit.
00:30:33I can't tell you when last I wore a suit unless I went to a function.
00:30:35And other than that, I'm very comfortable with traveling.
00:30:38I'm going to sound like a real old man now.
00:30:39No, you will sound like a real old man, but you have to say it.
00:30:41Whether you're sounding like one or not.
00:30:43At the end of the day.
00:30:44Because, you see, standard boy, if it's standard going down, I can't look at it.
00:30:52No, but I think it was a level of dressing for, I mean, when we're talking about gangsters,
00:30:58but it's dressing for the job you wanted or for the people you wanted to emulate.
00:31:02Because, again, the wealth in that time indicated good clothes, fancy car,
00:31:09obviously a transition from horse carriages to now who had the brand new Ford,
00:31:13the brand new Cadillac.
00:31:14I can hear the horn right now.
00:31:15Kong, kong.
00:31:16Exactly.
00:31:17So now it was that time of dressing for the job you wanted.
00:31:21Even if you weren't a high-ranking member in the organization,
00:31:26you had those aspirations that it's not just about the money.
00:31:29I want to have power.
00:31:30I want to have influence.
00:31:31I want to be a boss.
00:31:33So I'm looking like a boss, even before I'm a boss.
00:31:36But also it's follow me.
00:31:38You're dressing a particular way because you want to be like this.
00:31:40You want to be part.
00:31:41You want to have what I have.
00:31:44You want to get this money.
00:31:45This is how you have to look.
00:31:46And then there was a transition.
00:31:48I mean, I know by skipping a couple generations,
00:31:50it was a transition to the jumpsuit.
00:31:52You know, more of the rapper type look with the kangles and things like that.
00:31:55And then the big, that's the big rope chain.
00:31:57And then now it's transition again.
00:31:59And when you look at the, you know, some of the artists,
00:32:01whether it be the Wiz Khalifas and so on,
00:32:02they're not dressing up in all this sort of fancy stuff.
00:32:05But you can even skip past that too.
00:32:06You can look at places like LA where now a lot of these people are buying up these places
00:32:10to put IT people in and the AI people in, right?
00:32:13What are the jobs now?
00:32:14You're still dressed for the job, right?
00:32:15How do people dress for jobs in LA or San Francisco?
00:32:18Most of them are Google jobs.
00:32:20So guess what?
00:32:20They're dressing as comfortable as they would be in their house in the dorm.
00:32:24Agreed.
00:32:24And that's where the jobs now change.
00:32:26So they're literally doing the right thing because they're just for the job,
00:32:28whatever their job is.
00:32:29But it is all based on just identifying them in their own little tribe of people.
00:32:35And that's how it seemed to be.
00:32:37Now with the grooming part of it, I think like we didn't touch on that as much.
00:32:41But I think the grooming part of it has to do with self.
00:32:43I don't know if you agree with me.
00:32:44That's more or less our self.
00:32:45And as for men, I think regardless of how many generations we pass through,
00:32:50regardless of how many jobs we get,
00:32:52that's one thing I think is very, very important for self
00:32:55because it also goes back to the look good, feel good.
00:32:59So I don't know if you agree with that.
00:33:01Yeah.
00:33:01I agree with that.
00:33:02I don't agree with the quality because even though,
00:33:05so going back to the fashion and coming to the grooming,
00:33:07even though you're not dressing in a suit and you're dressing for the Google job,
00:33:11and there's an assumption because I wasn't there,
00:33:13but even if you're wearing a crocs, let me just say,
00:33:16at least you don't have a hole in it now.
00:33:19It's not an old crocs, if you understand what I'm saying.
00:33:21If you're dressing in a short pants, right, it's not an old short pants.
00:33:24Then you say it has to be the most expensive one,
00:33:26but at least have the style.
00:33:28And I look at every man, every man have a different style,
00:33:33but I could tell it's not a t-shirt with a hole,
00:33:35it's not a shoe with a hole, et cetera, et cetera.
00:33:37But, you know, you said that.
00:33:39I know we need to go to a break.
00:33:42But, you know, there's a term, there's a term again growing up
00:33:45that they used to use called Sunday best.
00:33:48You know, one year Sunday best.
00:33:49And that also comes from in, you know,
00:33:52I spent a lot of my younger age, you know,
00:33:55the time that I was in Trinidad in Blanchish years.
00:33:58So that more village life.
00:34:01And I would tell you that not everyone, I mean, your job,
00:34:04you're fishermen, you're farmers, you're different, you know,
00:34:08there's also cocoa, there was sheep farming,
00:34:10there was all these different things.
00:34:12You're not going to put on your best clothing for that.
00:34:14You have overalls, et cetera, or your home clothes
00:34:17or your lineman clothes, et cetera.
00:34:19But on a Sunday when you're getting prepared for mass
00:34:22or the harvest or whatever they could, Sunday lunch,
00:34:27you're dressing with your best clothing, right?
00:34:31And so even though you may say that a pair of pants
00:34:36has a hole in it, it might be the only thing
00:34:38that you could afford and it's worn, right?
00:34:40But is it clean is what it is.
00:34:43And that's the thing.
00:34:44So it's not always, if you can afford it
00:34:47and you decide to dress frumpy
00:34:49and now you've seen all these pants with the tears and so on.
00:34:52And you've seen the wealthy doing that.
00:34:54So you know to themselves that that's an expensive pants
00:34:56that they've probably spent $2,000, $3,000 on
00:34:58for practically a torn pair of jeans and so on.
00:35:02But then the poorer population who that might be what they have,
00:35:07but as long as they've laundered it
00:35:09or they've found some way to keep it clean,
00:35:11there's always a river, a sandpipe, something, somewhere
00:35:13that allows you to be that.
00:35:16So I'm just saying that just to clarify
00:35:18that we don't want to judge anybody
00:35:19based on where they may be at as a stand status.
00:35:22So I think before we go to break,
00:35:24however, you had a joke before about that same pants.
00:35:27I have a joke for when we come back.
00:35:28All right.
00:35:29So with that one, we go to the break.
00:35:30Welcome back to Manhood.
00:35:43The topic of the day right now is hygiene, fashion,
00:35:48and a plethora of other things as well.
00:35:50Grooming as well.
00:35:52I know we had some jokes that you wanted to tell a joke about pants.
00:35:56Yeah, yeah.
00:35:57So Robert mentioned some pants there
00:35:58that they're paying lots of money for, right?
00:36:00Right.
00:36:01So the joke with that is that my dad used to watch them pants
00:36:03and be like, that same pants I've been paying so much money for,
00:36:07that was the one jeans I had for months now.
00:36:10And that thing just keep going.
00:36:11He said, look at that.
00:36:11I should find it now and be back in style.
00:36:13So you see all those things come right back around
00:36:15because the same pants that we're talking about
00:36:16with the cut-ups and things,
00:36:18and say that, and patch.
00:36:20When you use to patch your pants,
00:36:21he say, watch my good laundry with my Sunday best,
00:36:23and my best, put that patch on it.
00:36:25So I think a lot of those things,
00:36:27but it's coming right back.
00:36:28It is coming right back.
00:36:29If you see a lot of the clothing coming back
00:36:31to the whole fashion part.
00:36:33But I really want to talk about grooming.
00:36:35Maybe it's because it's part of what I do
00:36:36to the grooming part of it, right?
00:36:39Some tips, anything you'd like.
00:36:41I want to ask a couple of questions too
00:36:42because we have the young man in the room.
00:36:45So do you think that,
00:36:47you talk about generations and stuff,
00:36:48do you think that this generation
00:36:49pays a lot more attention
00:36:52to their skin and grooming
00:36:56and just their appearance in general?
00:36:58I think the line of communication
00:37:00between generations has opened.
00:37:02And that's largely in part to social media
00:37:04in terms of older gentlemen
00:37:07are not shying away from giving advice.
00:37:11And the forums,
00:37:12there are many different forums
00:37:14for guys to sit down
00:37:16and pass generational knowledge
00:37:19about grooming down.
00:37:21So whether it's things
00:37:22that are new in the market
00:37:24or they're things
00:37:25that are old trade secrets,
00:37:28something as simple as,
00:37:29hey, use beard oil.
00:37:31It helps.
00:37:32It works.
00:37:34Even if it's,
00:37:35hey, I know your beard
00:37:36looking a little miscoloured,
00:37:38so use this brand of dye.
00:37:40Or even pay attention to,
00:37:42okay, wash your face.
00:37:43It's something that is something,
00:37:46it could be overlooked a lot,
00:37:48but it's something as simple as,
00:37:50hey, young brother,
00:37:51wash your face a little more,
00:37:53eat this,
00:37:53because if you eat,
00:37:55you know,
00:37:55this kind of food,
00:37:56you might break out
00:37:57a little more often
00:37:58and it has an effect
00:38:00on how you perform
00:38:01on a daily basis,
00:38:03how your brain performs
00:38:04on a daily basis.
00:38:05All of that information
00:38:06is now there.
00:38:08So it's something
00:38:09that we started,
00:38:10when we first started talking,
00:38:11when we were talking
00:38:12about sunblock.
00:38:12The information is there,
00:38:14I think,
00:38:14for my generation.
00:38:15Everything is just there
00:38:16to grab.
00:38:17However,
00:38:18I do,
00:38:19the point that I want to make
00:38:20is it's not always used.
00:38:22So,
00:38:23and that's where
00:38:23the older generation of,
00:38:25I would say,
00:38:25advisors come in,
00:38:27where you can advise
00:38:29a young man,
00:38:3010, 15,
00:38:3120 years old
00:38:32to sit down and say,
00:38:33trust me when I tell you,
00:38:34you're going to think back
00:38:3520 years from now,
00:38:37use the sunblock.
00:38:38But with grooming itself,
00:38:39the products
00:38:40and stuff they have
00:38:41out there now,
00:38:41you think you guys
00:38:42are using that
00:38:42a little bit more?
00:38:43Because I mean,
00:38:43if you talk about generations,
00:38:45a lot of people
00:38:45need to use much products,
00:38:46right?
00:38:47But like the stuff
00:38:47that you see now,
00:38:48you think that
00:38:49this generation
00:38:50takes that a little bit more
00:38:51because it's on like
00:38:52social media,
00:38:53because there's
00:38:53a little bit more
00:38:54advertising?
00:38:54Influencers,
00:38:55I think,
00:38:55I think have a big role
00:38:56to play.
00:38:57We've seen a lot
00:38:58of influencers
00:38:59who are endorsing
00:39:00something as simple
00:39:01as cutting your own bed
00:39:02or trimming your own hair
00:39:04and going in detail
00:39:05and saying,
00:39:06okay,
00:39:06this is where you can buy
00:39:07the mirrors
00:39:07and give yourself
00:39:08a feed.
00:39:09Give yourself some waves,
00:39:11right?
00:39:11Or something as simple
00:39:12as, you know,
00:39:15plucking your eyebrows.
00:39:17We are a lot more,
00:39:18in my opinion,
00:39:19we are a lot more
00:39:20manscaping,
00:39:21manscaping.
00:39:22We don't have
00:39:22plucking eyebrows
00:39:23that day.
00:39:24It's not all the terminology.
00:39:25It wasn't even up to
00:39:25when I was bringing up
00:39:26manscaping.
00:39:26Yeah,
00:39:27manscaping.
00:39:27I know it's widely accepted
00:39:30that,
00:39:30yeah, man,
00:39:31I know how to go
00:39:32and do a facial.
00:39:33Now,
00:39:34granted,
00:39:34I think I'm still in that
00:39:35in-between generation
00:39:36where some things
00:39:38were deemed as
00:39:39quote-unquote cool
00:39:40and some things
00:39:41were deemed as
00:39:41quote-unquote girly.
00:39:43I guess it depends
00:39:45on who you ask
00:39:47and what their personality is.
00:39:48But not that.
00:39:49It depends on your audience.
00:39:50Like, for example,
00:39:51if you're not a public figure
00:39:52and your community
00:39:54accepts that
00:39:54and you're okay
00:39:56with that acceptance
00:39:57and you don't really
00:39:58give a flying s***
00:39:58what somebody else thinks,
00:40:00then that's fine.
00:40:01But if you're a public figure,
00:40:02for example,
00:40:03you know,
00:40:03like I said,
00:40:03I've been in this industry
00:40:04for, you know,
00:40:0520-plus years,
00:40:06for years,
00:40:07people thought,
00:40:08I grew my,
00:40:09you know,
00:40:09I plucked my eyebrows,
00:40:10according to you,
00:40:11you know,
00:40:11and I'm like,
00:40:12no,
00:40:12it's naturally my eyebrows.
00:40:14Now,
00:40:14I would say,
00:40:15as I'm older,
00:40:15you know,
00:40:16there's some strays
00:40:17and things happening there.
00:40:18Yeah,
00:40:18I've got you to clip us.
00:40:18And now,
00:40:19now,
00:40:19now if you look at me
00:40:20and you say,
00:40:21do you clip one?
00:40:23I have to know.
00:40:24But for many of those years,
00:40:26I didn't have to do those things.
00:40:27And I would say that
00:40:28it depends on where you come from.
00:40:33It's how you put things forward.
00:40:35Because am I doing something for fashion,
00:40:38like beard oils and things like that?
00:40:40Or am I doing it for a mixture of both,
00:40:43which is grooming,
00:40:43it's also part of healthy,
00:40:45like massage oils for the hair.
00:40:47We no longer have the follicles.
00:40:48We no longer have to put creams on our skin.
00:40:51Whether it smells good or not is irrelevant
00:40:53because I just want to make sure
00:40:54I'm doing the right thing.
00:40:56But just to share a really quick story,
00:40:57I went to a couple of courses in Utah
00:40:59and really where you try to
00:41:02get some inner strength
00:41:05and learn a bit more about yourself.
00:41:07And the final part of the course,
00:41:09they said,
00:41:10those who had beards and locks
00:41:13and whatever the case would be,
00:41:14you had to cut it.
00:41:16Right?
00:41:16Because you're holding on to those things.
00:41:19And I had a serious problem with that.
00:41:21I never really left.
00:41:22You know what?
00:41:23We all have beards here.
00:41:24You know,
00:41:24I have my little goatee or Fu Manchu,
00:41:26as my brother says,
00:41:27to me sometimes going on.
00:41:29But, you know,
00:41:29it was me.
00:41:30You know,
00:41:30I thought if I shaved it,
00:41:32I didn't like that particular look.
00:41:34You know,
00:41:34some people say egg head
00:41:36or you look like an egg
00:41:37if you have a totally clean face.
00:41:40All of these things were happening
00:41:42and we were practically pushed
00:41:44into doing it
00:41:46because you're showing that,
00:41:48you know,
00:41:49you're holding on to these things of the world.
00:41:53Which is when I started to think,
00:41:55I mean,
00:41:55am I drinking the Kool-Aid here?
00:41:56Is it some sort of cult thing
00:41:57as opposed to a really inner strength experience?
00:41:59But I'm sharing that to say that...
00:42:01But that's a good experience
00:42:02because that brought back the inner self.
00:42:03But I'm using that, Garth,
00:42:05just to bring up to us gentlemen
00:42:07to have that conversation
00:42:08as to different strokes
00:42:10for different folks.
00:42:10To them,
00:42:12that was something
00:42:13that was,
00:42:14you know,
00:42:15not unnecessary
00:42:18and we're holding on to it
00:42:20and it's all fake and faux
00:42:22and whereas to us,
00:42:25it's how much are we holding on to it then?
00:42:27You know,
00:42:27people who grow dreads
00:42:29or people like us
00:42:30who shave our heads,
00:42:31you know,
00:42:31are we shaving it
00:42:32because we want to shave our heads
00:42:34or is it because,
00:42:35you know,
00:42:36as they say,
00:42:36roof blow off
00:42:37and now it's,
00:42:38you know,
00:42:39and now we're,
00:42:40you know...
00:42:41You have to adapt.
00:42:42We have to adapt.
00:42:43So, you know,
00:42:43it's all these things are happening.
00:42:44You know,
00:42:45I would like to grow my hair
00:42:47and go to a barbecue
00:42:47and feel what it's like,
00:42:48but...
00:42:49Would you though?
00:42:50That,
00:42:50I don't know.
00:42:51I mean,
00:42:52but the truth is God,
00:42:53you know...
00:42:54From one ball guide to another.
00:42:56Would you want to grow your hair up?
00:42:57So,
00:42:58so let's say this,
00:42:59right?
00:43:00The pain in my ****
00:43:01of having to shave my head every day,
00:43:03right?
00:43:04And the cost of the Gillette Fusion
00:43:06blades and all these other things like that.
00:43:09Sometimes I say,
00:43:10if I could just grow it out
00:43:11maybe a little bit,
00:43:12at least if I could do
00:43:13a three,
00:43:13four days,
00:43:14go and just kind of
00:43:15let my hair down,
00:43:16so to speak,
00:43:17right?
00:43:17You know,
00:43:17pun intended.
00:43:19I would feel a bit better
00:43:20than the trauma of my head
00:43:21having to go through...
00:43:22And I will politely disagree with that.
00:43:26I want to hear your regime.
00:43:29I love my ball head.
00:43:30I think it took a while to get...
00:43:32Like,
00:43:33there was times,
00:43:33I mean,
00:43:34when you're younger,
00:43:34you know,
00:43:35you're in it,
00:43:35right?
00:43:36And then,
00:43:37when I first shaved my head,
00:43:38I shaved my head for a movie
00:43:39I was supposed to be in
00:43:40in Dallas
00:43:41some years ago.
00:43:42And it was to be a footballer,
00:43:44a ball head worker.
00:43:45And I just felt like,
00:43:45wow,
00:43:46I don't have to get up
00:43:46and comb my hair,
00:43:47buy gel,
00:43:48don't do nothing.
00:43:49Nah, man.
00:43:50And it was already there.
00:43:51I said,
00:43:51join the gel though,
00:43:51I ain't gonna lie.
00:43:52I said,
00:43:52join the selections.
00:43:52Yeah, at that time,
00:43:53but once that happened
00:43:55and I was like,
00:43:56okay, cool,
00:43:56I'll accept it.
00:43:57And I was like,
00:43:58cool, let's go.
00:43:59After that,
00:43:59that was good.
00:44:00And I don't mind
00:44:00because for me now,
00:44:02shaving my head
00:44:02is self-care.
00:44:03Like,
00:44:03I take my time,
00:44:04everything has to stop
00:44:05because I have to shave my head
00:44:06and I use it as self-care.
00:44:08You know what you're saying there?
00:44:10I realize
00:44:11when
00:44:12I learn
00:44:13to take care of myself,
00:44:14right?
00:44:14And I'm not perfect at it yet.
00:44:17Well,
00:44:17I mean,
00:44:17no shit,
00:44:18Sherlock.
00:44:19It was a therapeutic process.
00:44:21Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:23I realized that.
00:44:24Yeah.
00:44:24It was a therapeutic.
00:44:26Taking your time to do,
00:44:28even when I grew up in bed first
00:44:30and I learned about,
00:44:31you know,
00:44:31getting the special comb
00:44:32and oil and take.
00:44:34And actually doing it myself,
00:44:35I was like,
00:44:35you know,
00:44:36this feels good,
00:44:38right?
00:44:39And even doing,
00:44:40your nails,
00:44:40watch my,
00:44:41there's a specific day.
00:44:42It feels good going and do it.
00:44:44There's a specific day
00:44:44that I would take time
00:44:45and just shut everything off.
00:44:47I work maybe 24 hours a day
00:44:49if you could think about
00:44:50to do a bunch of different things.
00:44:51But there's a time I take
00:44:52and I say,
00:44:53okay, cool.
00:44:53Today,
00:44:54I shaved my head,
00:44:55I cut my nails,
00:44:56I just relaxed.
00:44:57And you would not believe
00:44:58how much of a reset
00:45:00that is for me.
00:45:02I mean,
00:45:02I would travel out.
00:45:04I travel a lot.
00:45:05But even in the hotel,
00:45:06I would stop
00:45:07and do that.
00:45:08So it's a matter of self-care.
00:45:09So for me,
00:45:09You're taking a moment for yourself.
00:45:11You have to.
00:45:11And for me,
00:45:12I would utilize
00:45:13whatever moment that is.
00:45:14And the moment for me,
00:45:15it's to shave the head.
00:45:16So when I go out,
00:45:17I don't have to worry about nothing.
00:45:18Come across here in the rain,
00:45:20if the rain falls,
00:45:21you have to worry about
00:45:21my hair getting messed up.
00:45:23I ain't in a place like normal.
00:45:24So let's say,
00:45:26because I want you all
00:45:26to chime in here,
00:45:27Zarius.
00:45:28So I don't mean to cut you,
00:45:29but I just want you
00:45:30to add into this conversation.
00:45:31Because as you mentioned
00:45:32about self-care
00:45:33and taking that moment
00:45:34for yourself.
00:45:34Now,
00:45:35some people want to be pampered
00:45:36because,
00:45:37you know,
00:45:37you go and you go to,
00:45:38you know,
00:45:38have a mani-pedi
00:45:39or a facial
00:45:40and all the different things
00:45:41and all the steaming
00:45:41and the hydro,
00:45:43hydrotherapy
00:45:44and all these different things.
00:45:45It feels good
00:45:45and you want to just relax.
00:45:47But what it bottom line
00:45:48it comes down to,
00:45:48apart from your parents
00:45:50thereafter,
00:45:50it's the moment for yourself
00:45:52that you're taking
00:45:53for yourself.
00:45:53Just like men
00:45:54take time for themselves
00:45:57where women
00:45:57don't understand
00:45:58why they need toilets
00:45:59so long.
00:46:00Right.
00:46:00You know,
00:46:01and you're sitting down
00:46:01on the bowl
00:46:02and really and truly
00:46:03it's not taking that long
00:46:04to do your business,
00:46:05you know,
00:46:05because the old people
00:46:06always tell you,
00:46:07don't get off the party.
00:46:08But it is that moment
00:46:09to yourself.
00:46:09It's the moment
00:46:10to take your time,
00:46:11you know,
00:46:12read a magazine,
00:46:13go on your phone,
00:46:14all of these different things,
00:46:15all of which are not...
00:46:17It's called going to the office.
00:46:19Now it might be very hygienic
00:46:20when you think about it
00:46:21going in there
00:46:21with your cell phone
00:46:22and somebody asks you
00:46:23to use your phone
00:46:23and things like that.
00:46:25But it comes down
00:46:26to that self-care
00:46:26and ultimately wanting
00:46:28to take a moment
00:46:29for self.
00:46:30I think that's important
00:46:32because many of us men
00:46:34and we spoke about it
00:46:34in a previous episode,
00:46:36we,
00:46:37society sometimes
00:46:38views us as things
00:46:39and sometimes
00:46:41we view ourselves
00:46:41as things.
00:46:42We just have to do
00:46:43and provide
00:46:44and protect
00:46:44and we are not people.
00:46:46But self-care,
00:46:48help me,
00:46:49listen,
00:46:49I'll give a funny story.
00:46:51Your lover,
00:46:51he ever went on wax?
00:46:53He ever went
00:46:53and take a wax?
00:46:54No.
00:46:55Right?
00:46:56Right?
00:46:56I don't like
00:46:59all your hands
00:46:59he's seeing it.
00:47:00He went from
00:47:02all I ever
00:47:04see the movie,
00:47:05all I ever
00:47:05went to the play,
00:47:06you all have a wax?
00:47:08Anybody's wasting it.
00:47:09You all have a wax?
00:47:11I went and take
00:47:11a full body wax,
00:47:13right?
00:47:13Everything.
00:47:14I just feel uncomfortable.
00:47:15How was that experience?
00:47:16Everything.
00:47:17I cringed into it.
00:47:18First it was
00:47:18and I have it recorded
00:47:20because it was
00:47:21very funny.
00:47:22It was
00:47:23painful.
00:47:24Now,
00:47:24you say a full
00:47:26full body wax.
00:47:27Everything clean.
00:47:28Everything clean.
00:47:30Right?
00:47:31And I did it because
00:47:32I know we share
00:47:32on the show here
00:47:33but I don't know about it.
00:47:34I feel like that was too much.
00:47:35It was a new experience.
00:47:36I always want to experience
00:47:38something once
00:47:39to see what it is
00:47:40and the care after
00:47:43I had to do on my body,
00:47:44right?
00:47:45I realized
00:47:46I actually used to shower
00:47:47in a rough manner.
00:47:49I didn't even know that.
00:47:51How I used to
00:47:51to do it
00:47:52when it was rough
00:47:53versus how
00:47:54I was supposed to
00:47:55do it
00:47:56and
00:47:56taking care of myself
00:47:59like that
00:47:59makes me realize
00:48:00I take a lot of things
00:48:01for granted
00:48:02and doing the care,
00:48:05taking care
00:48:05of everything
00:48:07I realize
00:48:07how terrible it is
00:48:09to really connect
00:48:10with yourself.
00:48:11With that douche
00:48:11and all kind of thing.
00:48:12You know,
00:48:12like the full...
00:48:13But my main question is
00:48:14would you do it again though?
00:48:17Yeah.
00:48:18Really?
00:48:18Were there any drawbacks
00:48:21from your perspective?
00:48:23To waxing drawbacks
00:48:25was...
00:48:26The pain.
00:48:27The only thing is...
00:48:28The money.
00:48:28When you reach down
00:48:30to the family jewels,
00:48:32you have to be
00:48:33very careful
00:48:34with that.
00:48:34The person
00:48:35didn't have to
00:48:35take very much care.
00:48:38But other than that...
00:48:39And the person
00:48:39was careful?
00:48:40Yeah,
00:48:41yeah,
00:48:41she was careful.
00:48:42She was careful.
00:48:43But I would say...
00:48:44I don't know, boy.
00:48:46It's an experience.
00:48:47For me,
00:48:48it was seeing
00:48:50different sides
00:48:50of myself.
00:48:52Right.
00:48:52Right?
00:48:52And I'm not saying
00:48:53telling any money
00:48:54you have to do it
00:48:55or don't do it to know.
00:48:56It's just like traveling.
00:48:58It's trying new things.
00:48:59It's doing something different.
00:48:59It's trying new things.
00:49:00I remember
00:49:00the first time
00:49:01I grew out my beard,
00:49:02right?
00:49:03Usually my beard
00:49:04used to be to my face
00:49:05and then I grew it out
00:49:06and I thought...
00:49:07I used to think
00:49:08that was old man things.
00:49:09Only old man have a long beard
00:49:10and then the long beard
00:49:11became fashionable.
00:49:12And then,
00:49:12what it was about
00:49:14a few months ago,
00:49:14I shaved everything off.
00:49:16Yeah.
00:49:17Right?
00:49:17It was one of those things
00:49:18that...
00:49:19Complete change.
00:49:19I saw it.
00:49:20Like waxing the ground.
00:49:21Yeah,
00:49:21some people,
00:49:22you know,
00:49:22some people need to have a beard.
00:49:27All right,
00:49:28I take it down.
00:49:29But it's just different things
00:49:31and I said,
00:49:31as when,
00:49:32to see different sides
00:49:33of yourself,
00:49:34to know,
00:49:35to know different things.
00:49:36I had low hair.
00:49:38I did waves
00:49:39where I was brushing my hair
00:49:40half an hour every day
00:49:41and getting 360 waves.
00:49:43Now I have,
00:49:43now I have a rass.
00:49:46It's different sides
00:49:47and I'm not saying
00:49:47any style would be better
00:49:48than anything.
00:49:50Season four,
00:49:50you're coming with
00:49:51bantu knots
00:49:52or whatever.
00:49:52Bantu knots.
00:49:53Who knows?
00:49:54Yeah?
00:49:54Who knows what I will do
00:49:55because,
00:49:56and as men,
00:49:57I think we should explore,
00:49:58you know,
00:49:58because many of us,
00:50:00I remember,
00:50:01before I met my wife,
00:50:03I used to wear
00:50:04blue suits,
00:50:05black suits.
00:50:06That is it.
00:50:07That adds
00:50:08those standard colors.
00:50:09Now we're in different colors.
00:50:10She added a little color
00:50:11and helped me understand
00:50:12so now I could even put
00:50:13different things
00:50:14together for myself.
00:50:15So I think grooming,
00:50:17deciding what is best for you,
00:50:19because some men,
00:50:20I know some men,
00:50:20they just take nail kit,
00:50:21but I don't care
00:50:22if it's straight or not,
00:50:24but I just need it low
00:50:26and they feel comfortable
00:50:27like that.
00:50:28So we almost,
00:50:30you know,
00:50:30again,
00:50:30we had a close off.
00:50:32I mean,
00:50:32it's a really,
00:50:32really good
00:50:33and rich conversation
00:50:34and we almost come
00:50:36to that moment,
00:50:36but I really want
00:50:37to focus now on,
00:50:38because people are probably
00:50:39saying,
00:50:39okay,
00:50:40that's some good tips.
00:50:40We understand how men feel.
00:50:42We understand to an extent
00:50:42how women feel about it
00:50:44and sharing some
00:50:45really good stories.
00:50:46But what about the factor
00:50:48that really,
00:50:50you know,
00:50:50we say sometimes
00:50:51manners make it for man,
00:50:53right?
00:50:53And in the same way,
00:50:54hygiene,
00:50:56you know,
00:50:56whether how your breath's smelling,
00:50:57how your armpit's smelling,
00:50:58how you're looking,
00:51:00as we mentioned about
00:51:01even the clean underwear,
00:51:02the reason for doing that.
00:51:04But,
00:51:04you know,
00:51:04when you go,
00:51:05it's like when you have
00:51:06a hired help
00:51:09coming in to help you,
00:51:10you know,
00:51:10people say,
00:51:10you know,
00:51:11clean up the place a little bit.
00:51:12Don't leave dishes
00:51:12in the sink for somebody
00:51:13to come and have to wash it.
00:51:15It's the same thing
00:51:15that if you go to a dentist,
00:51:17you don't just leave
00:51:18a set of,
00:51:18you know,
00:51:19steak and all doubles
00:51:20and all kinds of things
00:51:21in your mouth,
00:51:21you brush your teeth.
00:51:22So,
00:51:23let's talk a bit about hygiene,
00:51:26you know,
00:51:26very briefly
00:51:27and to,
00:51:30to the relevance
00:51:31to being a man,
00:51:33you know,
00:51:34and that doesn't mean
00:51:35spraying on a set of cologne,
00:51:36but taking care of yourself,
00:51:38the importance of that.
00:51:39And if you're not
00:51:40taking care of yourself,
00:51:42what is that a sign of?
00:51:44Because we spoke about internally
00:51:46and I really want us to,
00:51:47for people to understand
00:51:48that somebody doesn't naturally
00:51:50just want to look
00:51:51like a scruff.
00:51:53You know,
00:51:53there's something else
00:51:54going on there
00:51:55and it's not simply
00:51:56a case of
00:51:56they're studying bigger things
00:51:58because you can look
00:51:59at a Mark Zuckerberg
00:51:59if you talk about simplicity,
00:52:01you know,
00:52:02and,
00:52:03you know,
00:52:04very basic shirt,
00:52:06black t-shirt
00:52:07or white t-shirt,
00:52:09denim jeans,
00:52:09right?
00:52:10That's it,
00:52:11right?
00:52:11Probably very expensive
00:52:12if you never know
00:52:13some level of silk
00:52:14or thread count
00:52:16and so on,
00:52:16but the fact is
00:52:17what's more important,
00:52:19but he's still groomed,
00:52:20he's still looking
00:52:21a particular way,
00:52:22right?
00:52:22And,
00:52:23well,
00:52:23I don't know how he smells,
00:52:24but I'm just saying
00:52:25that outlook is one thing,
00:52:27but what about?
00:52:28A man's mental health,
00:52:30you could always tell
00:52:31by the way he carry himself.
00:52:33So you're saying
00:52:34that hygiene is tied
00:52:35to the mental health,
00:52:36right?
00:52:36Yeah.
00:52:36And I could say
00:52:37any time I reduce
00:52:39my level of taking care
00:52:40of myself,
00:52:41that's a red flag
00:52:42to me to know
00:52:42either maybe I'm working
00:52:44too much
00:52:44or something wrong
00:52:46because the vigor
00:52:49that I've had to take
00:52:50care of myself
00:52:51is not there anymore.
00:52:52Something wrong
00:52:53and I notice it too,
00:52:55even with clients,
00:52:56right?
00:52:58When we're doing reports
00:53:00for the court,
00:53:02you have to put
00:53:02a mental status exam
00:53:06and in the mental status exam
00:53:08is how the person
00:53:10is groomed
00:53:11and it is always correlated
00:53:13to their level
00:53:14of mental health.
00:53:16So again,
00:53:16it doesn't have to be
00:53:17an expensive suit.
00:53:18It could still be
00:53:19wherever level you are,
00:53:20but you see,
00:53:21it's still taking care
00:53:22to make sure it's neat,
00:53:23right?
00:53:24If I usually shave
00:53:25and I just stop shaving
00:53:26just like that,
00:53:27if my breath usually
00:53:28smells good
00:53:29and then one day,
00:53:30you know,
00:53:30I need to notice a pattern,
00:53:31it off.
00:53:32If you're usually
00:53:33cutting is any notice,
00:53:35when you stop
00:53:35taking care of yourself,
00:53:36I think it's at nothing.
00:53:38Studies show
00:53:39and even my experience
00:53:40is a direct relation
00:53:41to your level
00:53:42of mental health.
00:53:43Just like when you talk
00:53:43about having halitosis
00:53:44and things like that,
00:53:45you know,
00:53:45you could be diabetic
00:53:47and you don't even know.
00:53:49You know,
00:53:49internal,
00:53:50external also represent
00:53:51internal,
00:53:51internal,
00:53:52you know,
00:53:53if you have,
00:53:53like you mentioned
00:53:54at the top,
00:53:54you know,
00:53:54with regards to
00:53:55what foods you eat,
00:53:56how you're feeling,
00:53:57your nutrition,
00:53:58going to the gym,
00:53:59different things like that,
00:53:59you're going to want
00:54:00to dress differently,
00:54:01as a result of that.
00:54:03Garth,
00:54:03before we close
00:54:04and give our closing thoughts,
00:54:06you know,
00:54:06if you could tell us
00:54:07a bit about,
00:54:08I know you have a,
00:54:09you have a skin care,
00:54:11you know,
00:54:11men's grooming,
00:54:12like some of the products
00:54:13you might represent
00:54:14and why it can really benefit.
00:54:16I think,
00:54:17taking back to,
00:54:18so I appreciate that,
00:54:20taking back to the
00:54:22look good,
00:54:23feel good thing,
00:54:24to having a new regime,
00:54:26like people,
00:54:26people will take
00:54:2720 minutes to get ready
00:54:28with their whole serum
00:54:29and stuff like that.
00:54:30I just didn't want
00:54:31to go that route.
00:54:32I think for the average person
00:54:34that is working every day,
00:54:36have a regular job,
00:54:37may not be,
00:54:38you know,
00:54:38a public figure,
00:54:40how do you make it
00:54:42simpler for them?
00:54:43And I think with all
00:54:43natural products,
00:54:44like the body butter,
00:54:45so we have a eucalyptus
00:54:46body butter for men.
00:54:47What's it called?
00:54:48Two?
00:54:48It's 2% ink.
00:54:50There's a story behind that,
00:54:51but we don't have time
00:54:52for all that.
00:54:52But with all natural products,
00:54:54the eucalyptus body butter,
00:54:55something I would use
00:54:56when playing football,
00:54:57like get in home late at night.
00:54:58If I play indoor
00:54:59and I come home,
00:54:59I can't sleep.
00:55:00So I normally use a candle
00:55:02and let the candle,
00:55:03the smell will put it to sleep.
00:55:05So I decided to infuse
00:55:06that into the body butter
00:55:07because we already
00:55:07had an original one
00:55:08and get it to men
00:55:09who I used to work with.
00:55:10So I ran a couple of gyms
00:55:12in the States there
00:55:13and most of the directors
00:55:15or like the big,
00:55:16you know,
00:55:16bosses would be working
00:55:17all the time.
00:55:18So I give them
00:55:18a couple of samples
00:55:19and then they're like,
00:55:20hey, gosh,
00:55:20when I get home,
00:55:21I get time to sleep.
00:55:22After I shower,
00:55:22I put it on.
00:55:24Back right down
00:55:25to the line of grooming,
00:55:26we want to make sure
00:55:27that men understand
00:55:28they don't have to take
00:55:29all the time
00:55:29to groom themselves
00:55:31or to take care of themselves.
00:55:32It could be just
00:55:33putting the body butter
00:55:33after your bath
00:55:34on your shoulders
00:55:35where most of your stress,
00:55:36as men,
00:55:37we carry a lot of stress
00:55:37on our shoulders, right?
00:55:39That was what the product
00:55:40was for.
00:55:41We do have beard oils
00:55:42and, you know,
00:55:43most people have the beard oils
00:55:44and stuff like that.
00:55:44I think for me,
00:55:45the main product for me,
00:55:46I would recommend to men,
00:55:48especially men
00:55:48who are constantly on the go,
00:55:50would be the eucalyptus
00:55:51body butter
00:55:52just because it's
00:55:52all natural stuff.
00:55:53So there's no fragrances
00:55:54that you talk about
00:55:55spraying up on yourself
00:55:55and then the benefit of it
00:55:58is actually that eucalyptus smell,
00:56:00which most people
00:56:01have a liking for eucalyptus
00:56:03because it does relax a little bit.
00:56:05I think, you know,
00:56:06one of the reasons
00:56:07why I wanted to come here too
00:56:08and I was appreciating
00:56:08you had me on here too
00:56:10was that
00:56:10I want to be able
00:56:11to reach out
00:56:12to the average person,
00:56:13the average man,
00:56:14because a lot of the average men
00:56:15don't have the education
00:56:16to understand
00:56:17or don't have the resources
00:56:19to understand
00:56:20how important the things
00:56:21that we talked about here are
00:56:22and that's why I was really happy
00:56:24to be on
00:56:25because I realized
00:56:25that the conversation
00:56:27is something that
00:56:27once we consistently have it,
00:56:29people understand
00:56:30how important
00:56:30cutting your nails
00:56:31could be on a Saturday
00:56:32or a Sunday.
00:56:33You know,
00:56:33like you say,
00:56:34being able to groom yourself
00:56:35a little bit,
00:56:35take care of yourself,
00:56:36dress a little bit different
00:56:37and that's one of the things
00:56:39that when we talk about
00:56:40even hygiene,
00:56:41you know,
00:56:41we could play it down
00:56:43as much as we want,
00:56:45we're out here
00:56:45to impress somebody
00:56:46at some point in time.
00:56:47At some point in time.
00:56:49So my thing is that
00:56:51a lot of the things,
00:56:52we don't really deal with stuff
00:56:53outwardly as much
00:56:55so if we could literally
00:56:56give them something
00:56:57to look out
00:56:58and we feel better
00:56:59about ourselves,
00:56:59that confidence
00:57:00will branch out
00:57:01into conversation
00:57:02and communication
00:57:03and all these other things
00:57:05that we kind of
00:57:05break ourselves down from
00:57:06because if you walk
00:57:07into a room
00:57:08and you don't smell right,
00:57:08nobody wants to talk to you.
00:57:10If you don't take care of yourself
00:57:11I don't look right,
00:57:12nobody wants to talk to you.
00:57:13So therefore,
00:57:14if this is something
00:57:15that men on the whole
00:57:16want to change
00:57:17where the perception
00:57:18is different of us
00:57:19because when you see women,
00:57:2199% of the women
00:57:23that we would know
00:57:24would take care of themselves
00:57:25and they are evolving
00:57:27all around the men
00:57:28that we have here
00:57:29and I keep saying it
00:57:30on all the conversations
00:57:31I have,
00:57:32men are not evolving.
00:57:35Men are stuck in the past
00:57:36and they just don't want
00:57:38to evolve
00:57:38because I don't know,
00:57:39maybe it's uncomfortable
00:57:40but I love to take lessons
00:57:42from women
00:57:43because I feel
00:57:43as the women
00:57:44show you how to take care
00:57:45of yourself,
00:57:46they were the ones
00:57:46that tell you
00:57:47go take a bath
00:57:48before somebody come.
00:57:50Those are the ones
00:57:50who say,
00:57:51hey,
00:57:51make sure you watch them
00:57:52where it's in the sink
00:57:52before my friends come over.
00:57:54Those are the ones
00:57:55that tell you
00:57:55about Sunday Best.
00:57:57So,
00:57:57instead of competing,
00:58:00let's collaborate
00:58:00with them a little bit.
00:58:02Learn some skin-scare things
00:58:03from the women.
00:58:05And I don't really
00:58:06like to talk about
00:58:07the company as much
00:58:08when I go out
00:58:08to have these kind
00:58:09of conversations
00:58:09because it's not
00:58:10about the company.
00:58:11It's about our company
00:58:12that we keep in.
00:58:12And as men in this room here
00:58:14who will take care
00:58:15of themselves,
00:58:15there's a lot of people
00:58:16out there saying,
00:58:17you know,
00:58:17I can't relate
00:58:18to those guys.
00:58:19So,
00:58:20we're just trying
00:58:20to figure that out.
00:58:21So,
00:58:21I think you guys
00:58:22are doing an awesome job.
00:58:23I just want to say that
00:58:23before we close
00:58:24and to open the conversation
00:58:26and be consistently on it.
00:58:28I,
00:58:28as a man,
00:58:29appreciate it.
00:58:30So,
00:58:30before,
00:58:32I appreciate the fact
00:58:33that you didn't try
00:58:33to give yourself
00:58:34a plug,
00:58:35right?
00:58:35But at the same time,
00:58:37you know,
00:58:38for people who are
00:58:39listening now
00:58:39to be able to give them
00:58:40that easier access
00:58:42and to say,
00:58:42okay,
00:58:42where do I get it?
00:58:44This gentleman
00:58:44has just told me
00:58:45about all of these
00:58:45different things.
00:58:46So,
00:58:46clearly,
00:58:47his line
00:58:47is going to already
00:58:48speak to that.
00:58:49So,
00:58:50what is a website
00:58:50or social media
00:58:52handle
00:58:53that they can go to?
00:58:54Okay.
00:58:55So,
00:58:55you can find me
00:58:56at IamGodVoze
00:58:57on Instagram
00:58:58and on Facebook.
00:58:59You can find us
00:59:00at 2%Inc
00:59:01on Instagram as well.
00:59:02There,
00:59:03you'll have the link
00:59:03for the website
00:59:04to check out the products.
00:59:05The men's line
00:59:05is already on there.
00:59:062%,
00:59:06how are you doing it?
00:59:07So,
00:59:07just the two,
00:59:08the number two,
00:59:09the word percent
00:59:09and Inc.
00:59:10The word percent.
00:59:11Yeah,
00:59:11the word percent.
00:59:13And I'm always open
00:59:14to conversations.
00:59:15I think we need
00:59:16to have more conversation.
00:59:17Even if it's about grooming,
00:59:19it still helps men
00:59:19to feel a bit more
00:59:20comfortable with themselves
00:59:21and that's what
00:59:21we're trying to talk about here.
00:59:22So,
00:59:23I appreciate that
00:59:23and thank you.
00:59:24Appreciate it,
00:59:25God.
00:59:25so just to,
00:59:28I guess,
00:59:29to close up
00:59:29my final point
00:59:30and kind of echoing
00:59:31what he was saying
00:59:32about men
00:59:33being probably afraid
00:59:35to evolve.
00:59:36I think
00:59:37what plays
00:59:39a huge factor
00:59:39is social,
00:59:41the social aspect
00:59:42of it,
00:59:42what we are perceived
00:59:43as
00:59:44because
00:59:45we've been talking
00:59:47about hygiene
00:59:47all day
00:59:48and we've been talking
00:59:48about
00:59:49just overall health,
00:59:51right?
00:59:52But sometimes,
00:59:53now,
00:59:54I am not one of those people
00:59:55who looks at someone
00:59:56trying to take
00:59:57better care of themselves
00:59:58and think,
00:59:59oh,
00:59:59he's a soft person
01:00:00or he's not a man.
01:00:02But it is a conversation
01:00:03that happens
01:00:04where
01:00:05men who are
01:00:07pampering themselves
01:00:08maybe
01:00:08overly too much
01:00:10can be seen
01:00:11as softer
01:00:12than
01:00:12what is
01:00:13a stereotypical
01:00:14hard man,
01:00:16right?
01:00:17So,
01:00:17I guess my message
01:00:18going out to
01:00:19anybody,
01:00:20whether you're
01:00:21you're tall,
01:00:22you're short,
01:00:23whether you're chubby
01:00:24or you're skinny,
01:00:25is to lean on your brother.
01:00:26A lot of times
01:00:27when I have been
01:00:28dong
01:00:29or like Johansi
01:00:30would be saying
01:00:30where it's a
01:00:31factor
01:00:33as to
01:00:34looking into
01:00:35your mental health
01:00:36as to
01:00:36how you groom yourself.
01:00:37Sometimes my brethren,
01:00:38my friends
01:00:39have came
01:00:40down to me
01:00:40and said,
01:00:41yo,
01:00:41you have not cut
01:00:42your hair in a while.
01:00:44What's going on?
01:00:46You need to get
01:00:46to the bar of work.
01:00:46Those are good friends
01:00:47to have.
01:00:49You know,
01:00:50lean on your brothers,
01:00:51lean even on your sisters
01:00:52as well.
01:00:53They are the ones
01:00:54that will tell you
01:00:55to keep going
01:00:56even though
01:00:57it may be hard
01:00:59on your daily basis
01:01:00to find a 30-minute
01:01:01star hour
01:01:02to focus
01:01:02on yourself.
01:01:03It is
01:01:04important
01:01:05and the knowledge
01:01:06that you can get
01:01:08all over the place.
01:01:09Obviously,
01:01:102% Inc.
01:01:11is one of the destinations
01:01:13but all over the place
01:01:14more and more men
01:01:15are being receptive
01:01:16and opening up
01:01:17and trying
01:01:18to get into
01:01:19that next stage
01:01:21of evolution
01:01:21as more and more
01:01:24men enter manhood.
01:01:26Right?
01:01:26Pun intended
01:01:27but as more and more
01:01:30men enter manhood,
01:01:31lean on your brothers.
01:01:33Young part one.
01:01:34That was good.
01:01:34That was good.
01:01:35Yeah.
01:01:36Men,
01:01:37it's important
01:01:37to love yourself
01:01:39and loving yourself
01:01:40will take many forms.
01:01:41As my brother said,
01:01:43it's important
01:01:43for us to evolve.
01:01:44all the things
01:01:45that you may think
01:01:46about that guilt thing
01:01:47or that is the only thing
01:01:49women is doing.
01:01:50Use your word now man.
01:01:51When you take care of yourself
01:01:54you would be surprised
01:01:55when you allow
01:01:57whether somebody
01:01:58to pamper you
01:01:58or you pamper yourself
01:01:59how rewarding
01:02:01it could be.
01:02:03So men,
01:02:04open your eyes,
01:02:05take care of yourself
01:02:05and be better.
01:02:09Well said.
01:02:10You know,
01:02:10take care of yourself,
01:02:11self-care,
01:02:12very important.
01:02:13Take that moment
01:02:14for yourself.
01:02:15You know,
01:02:15smile within
01:02:16and of course
01:02:17smile outside.
01:02:19You know,
01:02:19leave a room
01:02:19always better
01:02:21than you found it
01:02:21and also you want
01:02:22to leave a room
01:02:23smelling better
01:02:23certainly as well.
01:02:26You know,
01:02:27because there are
01:02:28many senses
01:02:28and we didn't really
01:02:29get into a lot
01:02:30of these senses
01:02:31but you know,
01:02:32people,
01:02:32the first thing
01:02:33they do is
01:02:33they see you
01:02:34and then of course
01:02:36smell
01:02:36and then what they hear
01:02:37and all the rest of it
01:02:38and you don't want
01:02:39to be left
01:02:40with,
01:02:41you know,
01:02:42any sort of
01:02:43negative impact
01:02:44on that person
01:02:45especially,
01:02:46you know,
01:02:46where they may look
01:02:47at the messenger
01:02:47before they heed
01:02:48the message.
01:02:49So in this case,
01:02:51you know,
01:02:51from the crown of your head
01:02:52to the sole of your feet,
01:02:53make sure that you are
01:02:55groomed,
01:02:56that you're smelling good,
01:02:57that you're feeling good
01:02:58and therefore
01:02:59you will be good
01:03:00in many senses
01:03:03and you know,
01:03:04we say it,
01:03:05we say it all the time
01:03:06where we speak about
01:03:07that sense of,
01:03:11of that community
01:03:13and that your community
01:03:16must lead you
01:03:17to be,
01:03:17to be better
01:03:19and hold you accountable,
01:03:20hold you honest,
01:03:21keep you honest.
01:03:22So Johanse,
01:03:24Garth,
01:03:24thank you for passing through.
01:03:26Real pleasure.
01:03:26Check out 2% Inc.
01:03:29I will be certainly
01:03:30taking some,
01:03:31some advice
01:03:31with some oils
01:03:32you know,
01:03:34Sarrius,
01:03:35thanks for passing through.
01:03:36You know,
01:03:38you know,
01:03:38and spread the word,
01:03:39let them,
01:03:39let them check out Manhood
01:03:40because even in your generation
01:03:41or they,
01:03:42they will all be,
01:03:43they all be men.
01:03:44We want them to continue
01:03:45being men
01:03:45to move away
01:03:46from being boys to,
01:03:48boys to men
01:03:49in certain,
01:03:49in certain cases,
01:03:50you know.
01:03:51So this has been Manhood.
01:03:57Manhood,
01:03:58brought to you in part
01:03:59by Reboot Sports Drink.
01:04:01Manhood,
01:04:01brought to you in part
01:04:03by Solomon's Bespoke.