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00:00I am joined by Robert Griffin, the third James White field.

00:11Yes.

00:12Mina Kimes.

00:13All right.

00:14So first play, we're going to look at second and two, one of the Patriots first offensive

00:17plays.

00:18Going on everyone, my hair, I was muted.

00:23Mike Taylor, Kyle's here for CLNS media, fresh, literally fresh off the practice field for

00:28day nine.

00:29No Patriots training camp, no, no standups today, a little technical difficulties here

00:34on the channel, but that's why we're here early.

00:36Again, we just got back day 19.

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00:42We'll hear from them a little bit more in a second, but we're today's practice.

00:47Here's the quick lowdown was the longest practice they've had all camp.

00:51They went for just almost two and a half hours, but it was a lighter one.

00:55They didn't have pads.

00:56They just had shells on nothing underneath.

00:58So although it was long, there wasn't a ton to take away.

01:01There's a couple, a couple of quick hitters that we're going to get to.

01:05And that's why we're here.

01:06So let's start with, I think we'll go with the quarterbacks because we heard from Alex

01:12Van Pelt before practice and he gave a little bit more insight, I guess, as to, you know,

01:18why they haven't given Drake May as much ones reps and sort of what their plan is.

01:23And basically my big takeaway was, was what he said about Drake May's chances to start

01:28week one.

01:29And that was that, yeah, he has a chance, but ultimately, first of all, Jacoby Brissett

01:34is QB one.

01:36But second of all, he mentioned that, you know, there's basically a right way to, to

01:41handle a rookie quarterback.

01:43And I don't know if I have that.

01:44I want to make sure I have that quote exactly because it was sort of telling to me that

01:49even though Drake is, um, I believe where he said, um, so I just looked it up, I actually

01:57tweeted it.

01:58It was, he was talking about the chances of Drake May playing week one.

02:01And he said, coach Mayo said it's an open competition.

02:04I'm sure there's a chance, but I think as you go in, there's still a process of how

02:08you bring a rookie quarterback along.

02:10So that tells me that even though Drake's coming along, they still want to use this

02:14process and this plan that they have in place and they don't want to, you know, speed it

02:17up a little bit.

02:19Um, so that was my big takeaway from van Pelt.

02:21And I will just add that Drake may did take more reps with the ones today.

02:25Um, he threw the ball with the ones today.

02:28It was more of in a game prep situation.

02:30They were working off cards as a defense, um, likely from Washington's defense to give

02:34them a little sense of, you know, how they're going to go into a game week and prep that

02:39way.

02:40Uh, but he also took some reps under center from David Andrews, which I thought was noteworthy

02:43as well.

02:44So with the first offensive line, which we'll get to that first offensive line in a minute,

02:49but let's start with the quarterbacks.

02:50What'd you see from May today?

02:51What do you think of this next step?

02:52Yesterday?

02:53He took reps with the ones today.

02:54He froze with the ones.

02:55So a little bit there.

02:57It's slow, but you're starting to see those steps in development take place, the development

03:01plan take place.

03:02Yeah.

03:03So I'll start with, uh, the pressers at the beginning of practice, we spoke to Alex van

03:06Pelt.

03:07We also spoke to TC McCartney.

03:08Yeah.

03:09My biggest takeaways from those availabilities is one Alex van Pelt reiterated, which Rod

03:13Mayo said yesterday, which is Drake may is a hundred percent ready to lead a huddle.

03:17You said he can get the play calls out.

03:19He can make the cans and make all the adjustments.

03:21We saw that once against the Eagles last week, where he went from under center, then went

03:25into the shotgun and they wound up going with the play action pass, wound up checking down

03:29to Jalen Polk due to guys looked really cool, but it seemed like the biggest thing keeping

03:34Drake may off the field is the fact that I don't think he's seen is enough defenses for

03:40them to be comfortable putting him out there.

03:42Now personally, that was something that I kind of downplayed because we actually talked

03:46about it on the drive to practice today that when it comes to coverages and shells, obviously

03:51defenses can throw so much at you where, you know, like big banjo, like we saw last week

03:54where they'll start in too high and there's any number of things they can do, whether

03:58it's dropping the single high or playing a two high shell or split safety shell that

04:03is half one thing, half another, and just kind of try to throw you off.

04:06I think that Drake may, it seems like he plays an attack space and leverage more than he's

04:11saying, okay, they're in cover three.

04:13I'm going X, Y, Z.

04:14Although of course there's always a progression, but the big thing was going to be picking

04:18up the blitz.

04:19And a lot of that is on the offensive line at David Andrews, where they call the protection

04:23and they make sure that they've got everybody blocked up.

04:25And if there is a free rusher, then Drake may has to know, okay, I'm either throwing

04:29hot because this guy's unblocked, you know, all the different permutations that can happen

04:33when defenses throw certain pressure looks at you, Alex, Dan Pelt ended up actually touching

04:39on those things.

04:40And there's pressure looks.

04:41He hasn't seen there's defenses he hasn't seen.

04:43And he mentioned wanting Drake may to have the answers.

04:46TC McCartney reiterated this.

04:47He said, there's a bunch of different looks he's going to get.

04:50We want to make sure that he has all the different answers to all the looks he's going to get.

04:54So I'm guessing that from what it sounds like they're open to Drake may starting at some

04:58point, but I think maybe it is like, all right, let's give him a month because we're going

05:03to play all these really good defenses.

05:05Maybe he can see, you know, Lou Anna Ramos defense, Mike McDonald, how Jacobi responds

05:10to these defenses on the field.

05:12Because obviously he kept reiterating Jacobi has been in this system.

05:15He has experience in the NFL.

05:16He has the answers to all these different pressure looks.

05:19And that's one thing.

05:20If you look at the film, when Jacobi was with Cleveland, his ability to go through his reads

05:24efficiently, make the right choices and quick game where it's especially hard because everything

05:28is so split second.

05:30And when things get thrown off, some young quarterbacks can get nervous and they can

05:32make the wrong decisions.

05:35Maybe they just want to have enough tape where it shows Jacobi trying to solve all these

05:38problems with their supporting cast and with everyone around them.

05:42And then Drake may can learn from what Jacobi does before he tries and applies it on the

05:47field.

05:48Now I even asked TC about Gerard Mayo's quote, where he said the best way to learn football

05:52is to play football.

05:53And he said, I agree, but you also want to put your quarterback in the best position

05:57to succeed.

05:58So while I have been of the mindset that I think Drake could play week one from an outsider's

06:03perspective, knowing there's a ton that I don't know, at the same time, I have been

06:07adamant that I don't think they should rush him out there or need to necessarily rush

06:10him out there.

06:11So for them, it seems like that last step is for Drake to understand it's you're not

06:15just playing the Pats defense, but it's not everything you're going to see.

06:21And you're going to play these defenses where you get a lot of experience and you're going

06:24to get more examples of stuff you're going to see from other opponents.

06:27Now that you know what those answers are, can you repeat them back?

06:31Do you know what they are?

06:32If we put it up in the VR simulator and all these things.

06:36So it sounds like that's the last roadblock, which as a Patriots fan, I think that's encouraging

06:40because Drake is a smart guy.

06:42So you're hoping he can see these things and be able to learn from them and potentially

06:46start sooner than October or something like that.

06:49But once again, we have more clarity on what it is exactly that's keeping Drake May from

06:53being the starter other than Jacoby being the guy that they're most comfortable with,

06:57obviously.

06:58Yeah, for sure.

06:59I think it makes a ton of sense to like, yes, you want to put this guy out there.

07:03I'm basically just reiterating kind of what you just said, but you want to put this guy

07:06out there.

07:07You want to see him play.

07:08You want to see him start.

07:09He looks awesome.

07:10But taking a little bit, I guess, of a step back where like, OK, he had a good game the

07:15other night and I'm not taking anything away from Drake May, but he had a good game.

07:18It was against the Eagles twos.

07:19They made it nice and easy for him.

07:22Nice and easy may be strong, but they made him comfortable.

07:24They ran kind of things he ran in college.

07:26They they they set it up for Drake May to succeed, I would say, and I think that's what

07:30anyone wants to do.

07:31And Van Pelt even said that today where he talks to these quarterbacks before games.

07:35They're involved in the game plan.

07:36He tells them there.

07:38He asks them what what plays they're comfortable with and those are the plays they're going

07:41to call.

07:42I love that quote.

07:43There are some coaches who try and fit like a square or a plug into a round hole, whatever

07:48the hell that saying is.

07:49It's like you're going to run my offense and I don't care what your skill set is.

07:52And I think that's BS.

07:53You have to, you know, curate what you're going to run to the skill set.

07:56And I thought that was encouraging to hear from Van Pelt today as well.

07:59And that's another thing that we've recently talked about Mike and I, when we're going

08:02to work and from work, we always have our little like, you know, we talk about things

08:06that are on our minds.

08:07And that was one thing about Alex Van Pelt as a play caller where, you know, how bad

08:12would he have to be for him to really fail?

08:14Because that's the one big question mark, because a lot of being a good offensive coordinator

08:18is one being able to know, okay, I want to stack things on top of each other, which I

08:22think in Cleveland, that often did a great job of where they give you so many looks and

08:26run actions and things that look the same and you can build off it and give the defense

08:30a lot to think about.

08:31But when it comes to like the raw play calling, a lot of it is just communicating with really

08:35your quarterback, especially what do you like?

08:37What do you not like?

08:38What are you comfortable with?

08:39Because that's where there's disconnect when the quarter, when the offense play caller

08:43and a lot of people give lip service to, oh, we're so versatile, we are going to adjust

08:47our personnel.

08:48A lot of people can say that not a lot of people are going to do it.

08:50And with Van Pelt, having been a quarterback, having seen how so many people do it, with

08:55Aaron Rodgers, with Andy Dalton, he understands that you can't give these guys plays they

08:59don't like because you're putting them in a bad position, they're not sure of themselves,

09:03that may affect their on field performance, and maybe there's a trickle down.

09:06So again, another thing we talked about with Van Pelt that we actually got confirmation

09:10on from him, where it is a very collaborative process, which I feel like is one of the biggest

09:15parts of being an effective play caller.

09:17For sure.

09:18All right.

09:19So we're going to go over at game time, and then we'll get into Drake May, kind of what

09:23they did at practice today, the offensive line, and then the rest of our stuff.

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10:51All right, let's before we get into the offensive line shuffle, which I've teased twice now

10:55because it's pretty important.

10:57What did you see on field from Drake May and Jacoby Bursette today?

11:00Who was better?

11:01Who was worse?

11:02Any any highlight plays that stood out from the day?

11:04Yeah, I tried not to read too much into this because they weren't in pads and, you know,

11:08a lot of these were slower paced, more walkthroughs.

11:11I thought both guys had impressive throws and also both ironically had plays that were

11:16either turnovers or near turnovers or they targeted Jaheim Bell and Del Pettis was the

11:21guy who wound up breaking up the play.

11:23Jacoby Bursette had one like again, that's the thing that they were both forced, even

11:27though maybe they in themselves weren't turnover worthy plays.

11:30I know Jacoby came kind of close where Del felt like he could have maybe intercepted

11:34him on a throw then Drake.

11:37There was a difference of opinion.

11:39I know Mike Reese thought that maybe it was on Bell because it hit his hands.

11:43I think you could argue that the play itself from Drake wasn't turnover worthy because

11:47it was deflected and then intercepted, but it felt like he forced it into a window because

11:51I remember before he let it go, I'm like, I don't like that.

11:54I hope that's not where the ball is about to go.

11:56And then it did pops up in the air because Del Pettis was all over it.

12:00Really great day for Del Pettis.

12:01Stock up for him.

12:02He was going to be in my MD in the notebook section at the end.

12:05No, that's OK.

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12:09I just had a really good day.

12:10Two pass breakups.

12:11One on Brissette, I believe.

12:12One on Drake May.

12:13One was in 11s.

12:14One was in 7 on 7s.

12:15But Gerard Mayo talking on Monday or Wednesday.

12:18I think it was Monday, but he's making a real push to make it 53.

12:22And when you continue to have good training camp practices, you have a game coming up

12:25still.

12:26He's making a really solid push for himself to make this team.

12:29Yeah.

12:30Gerard Mayo acknowledged it too yesterday.

12:31He said that Pettis was going to make the decision very difficult.

12:34So keep an eye on him.

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12:37I'm going to have a post-preseason roster projection.

12:40As of right now, Del Pettis is on it.

12:42This comment, Drake May, I'm assuming you mean, is having trouble in these two-minute

12:46drives, which is a fair point because I'm guessing you know from our reporting, Jacoby

12:50Brissette was able to lead a drive and put the Patriots in field goal position.

12:54That has been pretty consistent this summer.

12:56He is really almost every time been able to move the offense down and put them in a field

13:00goal range.

13:01Drake May has had trouble, but I'll also acknowledge the fact that, one, the pass rush was a bit

13:06of a big issue for a lot of the times that he's had to run this drill where, you know,

13:10like against the Eagles where he would have been sacked on almost every drop back.

13:14Also there's not a ton of separation.

13:15Like was the throw to Jaheim Bell forced?

13:17Yes.

13:18Not a great play by him.

13:19Also, he forced it because nobody was open and it feels like that's the case a lot with

13:22Drake May where when he tries these end of half situations, there just aren't a lot of

13:26good options for him to throw to.

13:28So it's hard to know how much is on May and how much is on Brissette.

13:31It doesn't feel like Drake is just like, oh no, you know, an end of half situation and

13:35his brain falls out.

13:37It just feels like he doesn't ever have a lot of great options.

13:39Do you want to make that distinction?

13:41But Drake did also have a missed throw to KJ Osborne, who he's had really good rapport

13:45with recently.

13:46It was the first time they haven't had a deep connection in the past few days.

13:49Really good double move from KJ Osborne.

13:51Got open.

13:52Drake overthrew him.

13:53Not the worst thing in the world.

13:54But even still, both guys had good throws.

13:55I had Jacoby Brissette at a really nice corner to Jalen Rager where Christian Gonzalez was

14:00in coverage.

14:01Rager did a great job high pointing it.

14:03I think Gonzalez makes that play in a game, right?

14:06I think so.

14:07I think he makes it more competitive, but I also was impressed by Jalen going up to

14:11get it.

14:12It wasn't like a bad throw.

14:13I just think Gonzalez could be more competitive.

14:15But also Jalen Rager and Jacoby Brissette had a little bit of chemistry today.

14:19There was a one minute drill where the first two passes went to Rager on looks like comebacks

14:24or curls.

14:25Really tight coverage.

14:26But Rager came back to the ball and attacked it in the air.

14:28Showed the kind of hands we don't see from him very consistently.

14:32I really like that.

14:33Just going through my notes here.

14:35That was really.

14:36I like the way Jacoby hit a backside dig to Jalen Polk.

14:39Another guy who was very, very busy today.

14:41So I like those throws from Jacoby Brissette.

14:43Thought he had a better day overall than he did yesterday.

14:46And then Drake May.

14:48The throws that I liked from him.

14:49Oh, the shallow cross to Jalen Polk where it looked like he started on his right, got

14:53kind of deep in his progression.

14:55Jalen Polk was the backside receiver on a crossing route.

14:58And then he had a really nice touch throw to Polk who caught it and would have probably

15:01ripped off a big play.

15:03So both.

15:04Oh, also a glance route.

15:05Same day in a row.

15:06We've seen this.

15:07It's his concept.

15:08We're basically like Drake will have a backside isolated receiver and it'll be an RPO where

15:12he kind of fakes it, reads a defender and then has a layer throw.

15:16I love those concepts because it gives receivers an opportunity to get big plays because you're

15:21behind the zone defense.

15:22There usually isn't anybody there to tackle you and you have space.

15:26So yeah, both guys had plays that I didn't love.

15:29Drake had maybe one more that I didn't love, but they both had impressive throws.

15:32Not taking too much away from this one.

15:34I had my headline is solid day for both top quarterbacks in walkthrough practice.

15:39So yeah, I agree.

15:42I asked the question because it's what the people want.

15:44But at the end of the day, on a day like today where, again, like I mentioned off the top,

15:48long practice, not too much to take away because again, it's slower.

15:51It was not as competitive.

15:53But you're right.

15:54I thought a solid day from both guys overall.

15:56All right.

15:57Let's talk about the offensive line because Badarian Lowe was out today.

16:01He suffered a minor oblique injury, according to Mark Daniels, who tweeted that out prior

16:06to practice.

16:07So it was the middle of practice, but regardless, we know what's wrong with Badarian Lowe.

16:11And it caused a major shakeup along the offensive line.

16:14Chooks of Corifor ends up as the left tackle.

16:16Siddy So is back at left guard.

16:18David Andrews at center.

16:20Layden Robinson at right guard.

16:22And Mike Onwenu, big Mike Onwenu, gets some reps at the right tackle position.

16:27Elliott Wolfe called Mike Onwenu a right tackle after they signed him.

16:31They then did not really play him all that much at right tackle.

16:34He has been inside a guard.

16:35Greg Medard held his feet to the fire a little bit the other day when Elliott Wolfe spoke

16:41to us.

16:42Basically said, you told us he was a right tackle.

16:43You haven't played him there.

16:44Why?

16:45But now, due to injury, big Mike gets bumped out to the outside.

16:49I know you are of the mindset that Mike should be, or Mike Onwenu should be a guard.

16:53He's a better guard.

16:56Was this the right move, though, with him because of the depleting tackle depth?

17:00The way I look at it is, with tackle, again, you have Vardarian Lowe and Calvin Anderson

17:06both hurt, right?

17:07So now it's just getting really thin.

17:09You have Caden Wallace, who yesterday, right away, after the Vardarian Lowe injury, comes

17:17in and plays left tackle.

17:18But you sit on it, you watch the film, and you realize, okay, Caden Wallace is going

17:22to be our left tackle and then our backup right tackle.

17:25You're stretched really thin at the position.

17:27So more guards in play, Nick Leverett's back at practice.

17:30You bump big Mike out, you take away a guard, but you add depth to the tackle position.

17:34Long story short, Taylor, what do you make of it?

17:37What did you see today?

17:38Do you think this is potentially their best lineup moving forward, or do you think this

17:42should be more temporary until Vardarian Lowe comes back?

17:44Well, I mean, it's a team that has a lot of good guards and not a whole lot of tackle

17:48depth.

17:49So I know my buddy Andrew DeSilva on Twitter was saying, oh, I don't know, Mike Onwenu,

17:53I don't know if they'll want to kick him outside.

17:55It would take a worst-case scenario, and I said, there's about one worst-case scenario

17:59away from that reality.

18:01And then we walk onto the practice field, and like you mentioned, we have Lane Robinson

18:04next to Mike Onwenu.

18:05I have mixed feelings about this.

18:07Because one, based on the offseason the Patriots had, it feels like their future offensive

18:13line, the way they see it, obviously Andrew's in the center position or kind of up in the

18:17air long-term, although he'll probably be around the next couple of years.

18:20But it is left to right, Caden Wallace, Sidney So, Layton Robinson, and Mike Onwenu.

18:26Now I understand the idea of putting Onwenu in tackle, and I love him next to Layton Robinson

18:33as a run-blocking duo.

18:34Like, I think they're going to put some defensive linemen in a lot of linebackers' laps.

18:39I love using that phrase, but it's exciting.

18:42That was definitely something I was pumped about.

18:44Sidney So showed that he could be good at left guard.

18:46He's been inconsistent this preseason.

18:49But here's the thing.

18:51I'm excited to see Caden Wallace finally start and learn from his mistakes and all that good

18:55stuff.

18:56But based on this preseason, Layton Robinson has been the significantly better rookie of

19:00the two.

19:01Caden Wallace has had good moments, but he's also had his struggles.

19:04Sometimes he's let guys get into his chest and then stand him up, and he's gotten kind

19:08of tossed to the side or lost control of certain blocks.

19:12And then with his hands, sometimes his strike timing or placement is off, and that'll lead

19:17to his block not being as effective or him not being able to sustain.

19:20Whereas Layton hasn't had as many of those problems, I will say for him what worries

19:24me is his change of direction.

19:25You can really see where if he makes a glaring mistake, which he doesn't really, but if he

19:29does, it's going to be hard for him to recover.

19:31He just doesn't really move like that.

19:33But he's long, he's got strong hands, and kind of like Mike and Wenu, he still also

19:37takes up a lot of space.

19:38So he can make up for those things.

19:41All that said, Chooks has shown that he can be a solid starter, also has stuff he has

19:46to improve.

19:47So him going to the left over Kane Wallace right now does make sense the same way that

19:51it seems like Chooks is still going to start at right tackle if everyone's healthy.

19:55Sidney So back at left guard where we know, obviously, again, last year he is comfortable

19:59being.

20:00Then you keep Layton Robinson at his college position where he's the most comfortable next

20:04to Mike and Wenu, who is a veteran, who's very smart.

20:06So you give him a little bit of help there.

20:09I don't like Mike and Wenu with tackle, he's 350 pounds.

20:13And I just don't think it's where you put your best, maybe your best offensive player.

20:18You're just taking him from a spot where he could be a pro bowler and putting him somewhere

20:21where he's just solid.

20:23So I think it's fine.

20:25I understand why this is the combination right now.

20:27I think it probably is better than putting Wallace out there if Scott Peters and company

20:31aren't ready for him to start.

20:34Just again, I just don't like the idea of him winning with tackle, and he's 350 pounds.

20:38I don't know if there's another 350 pound right tackle or tackle on either side in the

20:42NFL.

20:43So less than ideal, but understandable given the circumstances.

20:47I agree with you.

20:48I think it, originally when they trotted it out there, I was like, come on, give Caden

20:52Wallace a chance.

20:54You want to see him out there.

20:56He's your left tackle of the future.

20:57It's one of the most important positions on the offense.

21:00But taking a step back, taking a little bit of reason into account, like yes, he's a rookie.

21:07You don't want to have to just throw him into the mix just because of an injury.

21:11And too early, and then you want him out there.

21:12It's kind of like the Drake May thing where, you know, with, with, with reset, right?

21:17Like we, we talked about Zappi being a guy who you could throw out there if Joe Corey

21:21was stuck on her, because he could just basically take some reps, you know, until Drake Bay's

21:27ready to cover sets back.

21:28It's similar to that, where if they're not ready to put Caden Wallace at left tackle

21:32full time, then use true Sakura for, for now, this isn't, there's no rush for these guys.

21:37There's still no, as much as we want Drake May out there, there's no rush for him to

21:41be out there.

21:42As much as we want Caden Wallace out there, don't just put them in there just because

21:45of injury.

21:46Put them out there when he's ready.

21:47And so I think it makes sense.

21:49And big Mike sort of is the trickle down to right tackle as the stop gap, because you

21:54have to take chutes away from the right side.

21:56So I don't hate it.

21:58I want to see Caden Wallace out there just as much as the rest of us.

22:01But at the end of the day, you got to do what you got to do.

22:04I wish this, you know, I wish we were able to talk to the offensive coaches after practice

22:09instead of before, because we weren't able to ask Scott Peters much about this.

22:14But it was very popular today.

22:15I've never seen that many people around an offensive line coach.

22:18Yeah, he was.

22:19He was very popular.

22:20I'm surprised he didn't get 15 questions in about the strike system today, Taylor.

22:24But I figured he would.

22:26That's why I was like, you know what, like I another time, another time.

22:30Yeah.

22:31But that's the, that's the real offensive line news.

22:32Not too much to take away from practice itself today, because again, it wasn't as higher

22:37intensity.

22:38So we're going to see some injuries with Darien Lowe out troops of core for moves to

22:41the left side and Mike on one who bumps out to right tackle.

22:44So we'll see how that plays out moving forward.

22:45Again, Mark Daniels reporting that it's a minor oblique injury for Darien Lowe.

22:50So expect him to be back sooner rather than later.

22:52I would think.

22:53And we'll see how that hinders with the rest of it.

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24:11Um, all right, let's empty the notebook here again.

24:14Like I mentioned a, a, a quicker practice today, so it turns into a quicker rundown,

24:19but we did still see, um, a couple of things on the practice field that were noteworthy.

24:24Um, I'll just say wide receivers continue to look like Tyquan Thornton, KJ Osborne,

24:28and Demario Douglas as sort of their top trio in 11 personnel.

24:33They're working Jalen Polk in there a little bit more too.

24:36Um, I thought he had a solid day.

24:37He was targeted a lot.

24:38Two days in a row, Jalen Polk's been targeted a lot.

24:41They're still putting, uh, excuse me.

24:45They're still putting Osborne out there first, but Jalen Polk continues to roll in.

24:48You there?

24:49Oh, I'm sorry.

24:50Oh, I'm sorry.

24:51No, that's fine.

24:52I was sending you something in our private chat to be honest.

24:56But it does feel kind of like KJ and Jalen Polk are really splitting reps because we've

25:02seen times where Jalen Polk's the first guy out there and then we've seen times where

25:05it's actually KJ.

25:07So it does feel like there's a little bit of a mix there.

25:09Um, Jalen Polk, I'd say his best catch of the day was that crossing route.

25:13It's more the quality of the way he catches passes more than what actually happens on

25:17those catches because a lot of the time, like he'll rack up receptions and then you kind

25:21of look and you're like, Oh wow.

25:22He's got more than anybody else.

25:24Yes.

25:25But really he's a quiet killer.

25:26Exactly.

25:27But he always attacks the ball and a lot of what he does, I feel like is going to be more

25:30appreciated.

25:31It's like a chain mover where like we kind of discussed this, I think as a downfield

25:35option, it's going to take a lot of chemistry because he's someone who I think is going

25:38to win on a lot of back shoulder balls.

25:40I think his type of speed is something where he gets late separation.

25:44So they were just going to have to kind of give him air to run under it a little bit.

25:47Kind of like Taekwon, but just a different type of style.

25:50Yeah.

25:51It's pretty much my big observations on the receiver's busy day for Jalen Polk.

25:54Like I said, Jalen Rager had a few catches, looked impressive.

25:58KJ Osborne didn't really do much.

26:00Demario Douglas, I didn't really notice him much at all.

26:02Taekwon Thornton got a lot of praise from Tyler Hughes, the wide receivers coach from

26:08Demario Douglas.

26:09He was someone we spoke to after practice and really it just sounds like you're impressed

26:13by his shorts.

26:14Yeah.

26:16And Taekwon mentioned that just not as much sloppiness, which we try to do as respectfully

26:22as possible.

26:23I asked him about last year.

26:24I remember I was like, how much freedom do you have in your routes?

26:26He said, oh yeah, coach Brown wants me to use my speed and I'm like, but you don't know

26:30how to do that yet.

26:31You barely played in the NFL.

26:33So like, where is that coming from?

26:35But he said like attention to detail and it's really cool.

26:37I'm excited for Taekwon, man.

26:39It's kind of like Vardarian Lowe, a little bit where it's a guy who you can tell works

26:42hard.

26:43He doesn't do anything wrong.

26:45It's just for Vardarian Lowe, it's that he was in a tough spot.

26:48He got traded here.

26:49The offensive line situation was a mess.

26:50His coaching wasn't very good.

26:51He kept getting thrown out as a starter when everyone knew he wasn't a starter at that

26:55point.

26:56Maybe yet he has to prove that still.

26:57But yeah, that's kind of the case with Taekwon, where obviously him not being on the field

27:01has been completely outside of his control, but this offseason Demario Douglas mentioned

27:05how they've trained a lot together.

27:06We all know.

27:07We saw the videos.

27:08But Taekwon seems like a dude who puts all the work in.

27:10Now he's been available.

27:13It doesn't seem like he's going to start the season on IR, which is awesome.

27:17Throw my freaking roster projection from pre-preseason into the sea because Taekwon's around.

27:22The on-field product hasn't been maybe what we wanted because there's not a whole lot

27:26to talk about.

27:28But they clearly like what they see.

27:29They like his skill set and his athleticism.

27:31So that's been really cool.

27:33And also, if you want a reason to get excited for Taekwon, look at him as a blocker.

27:36I know it's like Taekwon or Nikhil Harry kind of territory, but for all the crap he gets

27:41about his frame and all that, he's a guy who gets locked in and is very aggressive.

27:46He knows no block, no rock.

27:48So yeah.

27:49I was just going to say it.

27:50The no block, no rock.

27:51That's what they say in the wide receiver room over there.

27:52Yeah.

27:53Just excited for Taekwon, man.

27:54He deserves it.

27:55He puts the work in.

27:56Now he's on the field.

27:57They're priming him to be a starter.

27:58Hopefully he can take advantage.

28:00For sure.

28:01One last observation from me before we get out of here.

28:03I noticed a lot of Jermichael Hastie in team drills with the starting offense.

28:07He was rotating in behind Antonio Gibson before Kevin Harris today.

28:11Now, I'm not sure if they were primarily passing reps.

28:15I couldn't exactly tell because the way I was watching it, I was back and forth on both

28:20fields.

28:21But I did see Hastie out there a lot.

28:22Again, talking about our rides to and from work.

28:25We talked about Jermichael Hastie this morning and kind of how and if they get him on the

28:28roster.

28:29They have bugs in your car.

28:30I swear.

28:31Literally.

28:32Yeah.

28:33So we didn't know what was up with Jermichael Hastie, if he was going to be on our roster

28:37or not.

28:38But he got some work today with the offense.

28:40He's obviously a good special teamer.

28:41So he's the guy who I noticed getting a little bit more extra run on offense.

28:46Any more observations from you, Taylor, before we get out of here, out of this quick hitter

28:49from day 19?

28:50Yeah.

28:51One with Jermichael Hastie.

28:52He's someone who I'm trying to decide whether it's him or Kevin Harris on the roster.

28:56I think either could be cut and find a way back.

28:58But Jermichael has been one of the top guys on the special teams units.

29:01He does look like their top backup as a receiving back.

29:05He does also bring some wiggle and some juice to a runner.

29:08And Romandre Stevenson said he has improved a lot.

29:11So I would definitely keep an eye on him.

29:13Kicker competition, Joey Sly continues to really be the guy who stands out most there.

29:18Looking at the numbers, Chad went three for five.

29:21Joey Sly went three for four.

29:23Chad Ryland did cap a one-minute drive for Kobe Brissette in the starting offense with

29:27a 47-yard field goal.

29:28Give him credit there.

29:29Bailey Zappi, I mentioned yesterday, had maybe his worst day of the summer.

29:33Really bounced back today.

29:34It was, you know, he was the scout team quarterback, but there were a bunch of tight window throws.

29:39They were short to intermediate, more underneath, but still tight windows that he was hitting,

29:44putting it right where his receiver could get it, and it couldn't be contested.

29:47So you got to give Bailey Zappi his flowers, man.

29:49I hope whatever happens works out for him because he's had a good summer, I think, overall.

29:54Done everything that's asked of him.

29:55No one's had a negative thing to say.

29:58So that's all I got on Bailey Zappi.

30:01Liam Thornedale was the backup center, or replaced, I'm sorry, Lynn Robinson at right

30:06guard when he was with the starters.

30:08I thought that was kind of significant because he's often the backup center.

30:12Thornedale did struggle today when he did get backup center snaps.

30:17They were like, there was a botch snap.

30:19There were three that were either high or low.

30:22Not a great day for him.

30:23I think there was also an everyone but the center penalty that he was responsible for.

30:27So, you know, that's not really great.

30:30I'm also just want to, there were some things in the chat I wanted to acknowledge too, to

30:33make sure I'm not ignoring anybody.

30:36What was about Javon Baker?

30:37He looked good today.

30:38No drops.

30:39And I saw.

30:40It seemed like he had, you know, some strong hand catches.

30:42I had him on a nice quick in-breaker on one play.

30:45I thought he went up and got it, and, you know, he was pretty open, but it was a nice

30:48throw, nice catch.

30:49You're getting him involved, so.

30:51That's another example of these days blending together.

30:52I said the glance was to Booty.

30:54That was yesterday.

30:55Today, it was Javon Baker.

30:57I also asked Tyler Hughes about something that's been bothering me about his game, where

31:01I'm like, obviously, he's super talented, but it seems like he's leaving his feet a

31:04lot when he doesn't need to.

31:05Is that something you guys are working on?

31:07He clearly was trying to stick up for his guy.

31:09He mentioned that, you know, Baker's an aggressive guy.

31:12He likes to high point and attack the ball in the air, which they do love about him,

31:15but he did slightly acknowledge at the end that they are working on him.

31:19You know, he said they want guys to run through the catch, where it's not like Brendan Lloyd,

31:23where you grab it and then you're like this in the air and it's like, no, there was so

31:26much room.

31:27Just keep running.

31:28So we did kind of acknowledge that's something that Javon Baker is working on.

31:32So awesome for him.

31:33That was definitely an area of improvement.

31:34I thought that was, I'll just say too, like that was a, a perfect question to answer like

31:39in the media.

31:40I thought really, cause like, this is what's happening.

31:42Tell us about it.

31:43And he was like, well, he, his game is going to get the ball as high as possible.

31:48And you can't do that if you don't leave your feet and jump, but you have to use that, you

31:53know, like you have to use that skillset in certain ways where if it's a go up and

31:57get it play, then go up and get it.

31:58If it's a run through the football and just let it come to you, you have to let it come

32:01to you.

32:02So I thought that was something, I don't know, it was almost like an obvious makes it sound

32:08like it's, it's, it's obvious, but it was like a, you know, a question and answer that

32:12just made, made a ton of sense.

32:13I heard his answer.

32:14I was like, Oh yeah.

32:15Like, you're not going to teach him to not leave his feet because that's his game.

32:18But there are, there are definitely plays, even like the one, the, the drop he had in

32:25the game to make.

32:26Now he granted he was, he was leaving his feet and diving forward.

32:29But I thought if he was just on his horse and ran through that, I could've been a touchdown,

32:32like run right through it and go get the ball.

32:34It was a little outside of him, but those are the plays where instead of leaving your

32:37feet just run through the catch.

32:38But that's my soapbox on day one.

32:40Yeah.

32:41I always think of that play in the back of the end zone where he jumped and they pushed

32:44him and he got his foot down, but I'm still like, you lose control and you no longer dictate

32:48whether you're in bounds.

32:49So it's just stuff like that.

32:50But yeah, no, I, I did think this was a better day for him.

32:53Give Jaylon Baker his flowers when he deserves them.

32:55Nothing on the ground, a positive day for him.

32:57That's all I got.

32:58Perfect.

32:59Sounds good.

33:00I will throw one last thing up here.

33:02This is from, uh, nope, wrong one.

33:04Sorry.

33:05Sorry, TJ.

33:06We love you.

33:07But you know, it wasn't the comment I was talking about.

33:08Josh Behringer was MVP.

33:09Bryce had a good day today.

33:10Again, he had the, he had the good day in the game.

33:13He had the nice pun.

33:14He had the mic'd up thing and he put it, put together another show today.

33:17A lot of, uh, quality hang times.

33:19Check out Alex Bart's Twitter for that.

33:21Uh, he, he had a good day today.

33:23Yeah, bro.

33:24There was a period where he was just dropping punts right outside of the end zone.

33:29It was crazy.

33:30He was just practicing, basically coughing corners and like punting.

33:32So it dies right before it bounces into the end zone.

33:35And it was just so easy for him.

33:38That dude, I really do think I would love to ask Gerard Mayo how Bryce has been.

33:43Cause I, even though he's the head coach, I feel like he probably doesn't know.

33:47But it definitely seems like Bryce has been one of their best players this off season.

33:52I'm not sure if anybody's necessarily close cause he's just been so freaking consistent.

33:56When the Patriots were not very good in 2020, uh, it felt like Jake Bailey was their best

34:01player because he punted the ball all the time and he was really good at flipping the

34:04field.

34:05Bryce Behringer has a chance on this team to be one of their best players.

34:07Like there's a huge question mark at kicker, but Bryce is a great punter and he's going

34:11to be a great punter.

34:12It feels like for a long time.

34:13He has the confidence, he has the swag for it and he's really damn good.

34:16So, uh, on that note, that's going to do it for our day 18 recap here on Patriots.

34:23They 19.

34:24They're all blending together.

34:25Taylor, as we know today, it was 19 tomorrow's 21 last recap of training camp before we get

34:29into Sunday's game and then we get into our normal, uh, season schedule and normal Patriots

34:35daily schedule.

34:36We'll keep you updated.

34:37Uh, what's coming next on the feed on Twitter.

34:39Um, and yeah, that's going to do it.

34:41So we'll be back tomorrow.

34:42Uh, until then take care of yourselves, take care of each other and we'll see you next

34:46time.

34:47Peace out, everyone.

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