The Jeremy Kyle Show (8 March 2018)
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00:10On today's show, tell me about Lewis. What do you make of him?
00:14He's smog.
00:16He's God's gift to women, isn't he?
00:19No, you're not. Stand up, him is.
00:24How many times have you cheated on Shannon?
00:27More than twice.
00:29Why are you sitting there looking at me with the smog on your face, thinking I'm bad?
00:36I'm in the middle of it, I'm in the middle.
00:42Oi, this way.
00:44Why are you still with him then?
00:46Because I ain't got no house, that's why.
00:51What's all this about groupies? I ain't even kissed them. All I am doing is my DJ.
00:57Smog! Yes! Smog! Yes!
01:02What about you? It's smog, we're three people!
01:06APPLAUSE
01:24Hello, my friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:27Today, we've got a very special episode of the JK show,
01:30featuring some of our most notorious guests,
01:32who are back for lie detector tests.
01:35Now, you might remember our first guest, Danielle.
01:37Take a look at this, my friends.
01:40How did you feel when you were sat outside knowing he was in there with his ex?
01:43It hurt me, but I didn't get told until I was back home
01:45and I had the messages on my phone saying he did it.
01:48You need to answer to my cousin for leaving her outside.
01:53That's wrong, Lewis! Lewis, but you still left her outside!
01:57We asked Lewis, he admits that he kissed and had sexual contact with Sarah,
02:01but says no sexual intercourse took place.
02:03Since the start of your relationship with Shannon,
02:05apart from the one woman you've admitted to,
02:07have you passionately kissed anyone else you said no?
02:09Why'd you say no? I'm telling the truth.
02:11The test says you're a liar.
02:14I'm reading the test.
02:16Lewis, you don't believe me!
02:18He's cheating on you!
02:21He's cheating on you!
02:23Wait! Tell me! He's cheating on you!
02:26He failed every single question.
02:31Now, after the show, Danielle says she was utterly furious
02:34that her cousin Shannon stayed with Lewis.
02:36She says that Lewis is nothing but a compulsive liar
02:38and is convinced he's cheated on her cousin Shannon again.
02:41Worst of all, she says, Danielle, she is having to take a lie detector
02:45after Shannon, so under Lewis's utter, utter control,
02:50says, I reckon you've slept with him.
02:52There's loads to this.
02:54Danielle's back on the Jeremy Carr Show That Way.
02:57CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
03:03Long it was short last time. Can you help me out here, right?
03:06So there's you looking out for your cousin, right, Shannon.
03:09I know when you came out, you went,
03:11do you know what, he's done an absolute job on her, Lewis, right,
03:14and at the end of the day, anything that happens, she'll go,
03:17I love you.
03:18He fails the test, he admits the test's right,
03:21he admits he's done wrong.
03:23Why are we back? Why is she with him?
03:26Because he's controlling her, he's mugging her up.
03:29Lewis, you liar!
03:31He's controlling her, she believes everything he says.
03:34So why are you here doing a lie detector?
03:37Cos I hate losing my cousin over him when he's... No.
03:40So there are rumours now that you've had sex with him, have you?
03:43No.
03:44So Shannon's your cousin, despite the fact that Lewis is a cheat,
03:47she went back with him, but somewhere along the line,
03:50who's accused you of having it with him?
03:52Just loads of people.
03:53So you want to say to her, I wouldn't do that,
03:56but I bet you any money he has done it with other people.
03:58Is she going to wise up? That's your question.
04:00Yeah, I'm going to make sure she is today.
04:02Tell me about Lewis, what do you make of him?
04:04He's smug, he's always laughing about everything Shannon asks him.
04:08He is God's gift to women, he said. That's what he thinks.
04:12So do you reckon, cos you're on my team,
04:14she's coming home with me if he fails again.
04:16How's that going to happen?
04:17Has she got doubts or is she, like, loved up and...
04:19She's got doubts. She has? Yeah, she has.
04:21What if he passes, love?
04:23She's still no good for her. Yeah?
04:25She's cheated on her before and...
04:27So you didn't cheat with him, you wouldn't do that. No.
04:30You're here cos you reckon he's going to fail.
04:32He wants to wipe the slate clean after last time.
04:34He made a big thing about the test was right but I was in a bad pace,
04:37I made a mistake.
04:38He does say one thing, though, I'm just going to warn you of this,
04:41he says she fancies the backside of me.
04:43Oh, yeah. Lewis is back on the Jeremy Carr Show, that way.
04:52I fancy you! I fancy you!
04:55Have you seen the state of you?
04:57Have you seen the state of you?
04:59Do not stand up to me!
05:01Do not stand up to me!
05:04LAUGHTER
05:08Who are you? Who are you?
05:10You're very tall, get off.
05:12There's a bloody war between me and him.
05:14And you can't... You've got to stop!
05:16You've got to stop! You've got to stop!
05:18I'm in the middle of this! I'm in the middle!
05:20Hello? I'm in the middle!
05:24No, he's in the middle!
05:28How are you? I'm all right, mate.
05:30You failed last time, why did you fail?
05:32Test was right, wasn't it? Yeah, I told you.
05:34You cheated on her. Yeah, I did, yeah.
05:37How many times...
05:38Did I say who's good?
05:39No, so why are you sitting there like this?
05:41With a big smug on your face, thinking you're bad?
05:43I don't think I'm bad.
05:45How many times... How many times...
05:47How many times have you cheated on Shannon?
05:49Look at your trainers, man, look at the state of them.
05:52Listen, I'll put 150 pounds for them.
05:54Look at your face, look at your teeth, look at your face.
05:57Have you seen your state?
05:59How many times have you cheated on Shannon?
06:03More than twice.
06:05Then why don't you grow a pair and leave him
06:08instead of being so stupid?
06:12Hold on, hold on.
06:14You told my team she is just intent on splitting me and Shannon up.
06:18I made a mistake, let him speak.
06:20The first time I went round Danielle's age,
06:22she turned round and said to Shannon, she was like,
06:24I'm jealous of you and...
06:26I don't think so, Lewis.
06:28I do not think so.
06:30All I've done is support my cousin,
06:33that's all I've done is support her,
06:35so don't even try bringing me into your stupid little games.
06:38Did you or did you not say that, Danielle?
06:40Did you or did you not say that?
06:42Now, there's a very big man, that's your boyfriend,
06:44are you not very happy about this? No.
06:46Now, she's come to a lie detector to prove she didn't sleep with you.
06:49Have you been saying she did sleep with you?
06:51No, I haven't said that. So where's that rumour come from?
06:53You haven't said that, but you're saying that I fancy her.
06:55Can you get me the notes, please, Will,
06:57cos she did say she fancied you, didn't you?
06:59Yeah. Cos she's only a woman, is what you said.
07:03She's only human.
07:05Thanks, Will. Where am I going?
07:09Danielle fancies me, man.
07:11That's why she's always having a go at me all the time
07:14and trying to ruin mine and Shannon's because she wants me.
07:18But Danielle... Who can you say Danielle fancies you?
07:21What can you say that Danielle fancies you?
07:24He has and I have, get off!
07:26APPLAUSE
07:31Big man could run on.
07:34But Danielle needs to realise that she's never going to get me,
07:37not even if she was the last girl on Earth.
07:39I can't blame her for fancying me, though.
07:41She's only human. There you go.
07:43So, did you say that or not?
07:45What it says there, I did.
07:47Why have you done a test? You lied last time.
07:49Listen, to prove that I haven't done anything...
07:51You have, though, you always will. You'll never change.
07:54When my cousin walked away, then I've told her to walk away.
07:57Yeah, and so have I. How long have you been with Shannon?
07:59Caught up in your blipping, stupid...
08:01What do you mean?
08:03Sorry, sorry, you've been... All right, then, all right.
08:06You've been with her?
08:08You've been with her less than two months
08:10and you've already changed your mind?
08:12She wanted to stay with me.
08:14Why didn't you leave her?
08:16Why didn't you have enough respect just to leave her, then, Lewis?
08:19Right, get me a chair. Shannon's back on the Jeremy Carlton.
08:22CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
08:25What do you think you are?
08:27You're talking...
08:29You're talking...
08:31Well, cos...
08:33Every woman's going to...
08:35I thought you were happy with him.
08:38I was. I was also pregnant with his baby and I had a miscarriage.
08:41That's why I stayed with him. That's why.
08:43I'm sorry about that. Yeah.
08:45And he caused her too much stress.
08:47So you stayed with him last time.
08:49Why? He cheated on you because you were pregnant with his baby?
08:52I didn't find out until after the show and then, obviously...
08:55Last time on the show, darling,
08:57it was probably one of the most humiliating moments ever.
09:00You admitted to me that you sat outside his...
09:02Well, when he went to see his ex. Yeah.
09:04Had sex with her and you sat outside the house waiting
09:08and still, I'm not being rude,
09:10with doormat printed on your forehead, you're back with him.
09:13She's right, isn't she?
09:15She is.
09:17There's a war between all of us.
09:19I can't hear you. There's a war. There's a war.
09:21Like, ever since these two things have been going on,
09:24these two have done something.
09:26Me and her used to be really close, we used to be like sisters,
09:29and there's a war there and, of course, these rumours...
09:32Lewis cheated. Lewis cheated on me 24 hours after we got together.
09:36I know, you told my team, 100% he'll fail today's lie detector.
09:39So, darling, with respect, the question is this...
09:42I'm gone. I'm gone.
09:44I'm gone. Carry on.
09:46You don't even care. You don't even care.
09:48Obviously, you've been saying you love me lately, like you say you do.
09:51Yeah, you wouldn't be sitting there saying,
09:53you don't care, you don't care, you don't care.
09:55You know what I mean?
10:00You know, you just sit there laughing, you think it's funny.
10:03You told my team, Lewis and Danielle may well have had something.
10:07Deep down, I think something's happened.
10:09Because all the rumours, all the rumours, that's why.
10:12I think Danielle would do that to you.
10:14All the rumours, and I wouldn't have believed it,
10:16because all the rumours I'm going round, obviously, it's put doubts in my head.
10:19So you're believing rumours over your cousin?
10:21Well, she, obviously, anyone hears rumours and everything...
10:24Have you ever worked out in a short space of time,
10:27you've been with this man, he's cheated on you twice,
10:29you think he might have done something with your cousin,
10:31you're on The Jeremy Carr Show again.
10:33She knows herself, she can...
10:35Why don't you see this for yourself, the relationship for what it is?
10:38A bit extra, I have.
10:40What's your boyfriend called? Terry.
10:42The Jeremy Carr Show.
10:47You know for a fact that Danielle wouldn't sleep with you.
10:50You know for a fact that Danielle wouldn't sleep with you, do you?
10:53What do you mean, shut up?
10:55You know for a fact, let's just get his lie detector results and just prove this.
10:59He's bigger than you, Dan, and quicker.
11:02How do you feel when he's said all this stuff to your girlfriend?
11:06Do you think that she's cheated on you?
11:08No, 100% she's going to pass this.
11:10You're not taking this seriously, are you?
11:12No, we're just laughing.
11:13Then why are you with him, you idiot?
11:15Everybody wants him in his person.
11:17Yeah, you do.
11:18You're mad at yourself.
11:20She's better than you.
11:22I can't do 100 times better than her.
11:26So what is this, is this your chance to get rid of her by me giving some results?
11:30It's just easy for you because you don't look like you give a damn, Lewis, come on.
11:33No, you don't, you don't at all.
11:35You told my team, you told me...
11:38Sharon is controlling and jealous.
11:41I've got reason to be controlling after he cheated on me last time.
11:44I've got reason.
11:46I'll pass my results.
11:48You admitted to obviously something, yeah?
11:51You go on my Facebook and delete loads of girls.
11:54You don't do that, Sharon.
11:56I was on the phone to a girl,
11:58and you stole the number of the girls there on the phone.
12:02You did, I was going to meet him.
12:04He told me he was single.
12:06And you walked out laughing.
12:08Laughing at her like that.
12:10And now me and my cousin have been going to wars because of you.
12:14Get rid of me, fam.
12:16Why don't you just walk away knowing that you've disrespected her?
12:20So, do you think he's going to fail?
12:22Yeah.
12:23Do you?
12:24But how do we know that you don't just do what you did last time?
12:27No, I won't.
12:28Are you going to pass?
12:29Yeah.
12:30100%?
12:31You wish.
12:32Look at me.
12:33Go on.
12:34Are you going to pass?
12:35Have you heard him out?
12:36You'll soon find out.
12:37How many people in the audience think...
12:39How many people in this audience think this man's going to pass this test?
12:42How many think he's going to fail?
12:44You've got three minutes.
12:45I'm back after the break.
12:46We'll lie detector results.
12:47Don't go anywhere.
12:48You don't treat women with any respect, do you?
12:50No, no, no.
12:51You think that you're going to skip to women passing?
12:53What?
12:54Oh!
12:55He's on the show with a lot of people,
12:57and all you do is sit in there disrespecting him.
13:05Do you think you're being lied to?
13:07Do you have evidence to prove it, like home videos, recordings or texts,
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13:31APPLAUSE
13:36CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
13:41He just said to me during the break, I don't like you.
13:44Oh!
13:45I don't give a damn about you, but the way you act,
13:48the way you act, you don't treat women with any respect, do you?
13:51No, no.
13:52You think that you're going to skip to women passing?
13:54Where's your wife? Where's your wife?
13:56Oh!
13:57Where's your wife?
13:59I don't have a wife, I'm divorced, and...
14:02Why was that? Was you cheating?
14:04What have you got to do with Jeremy?
14:06No, I wasn't.
14:07APPLAUSE
14:09I don't like you.
14:11I don't like you.
14:13He's on the show to f*** out people like us,
14:15and all you do is sit in there disrespecting him.
14:18I don't like you.
14:20CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
14:25What I could do was to sue you for libel.
14:29LAUGHTER
14:32LAUGHTER
14:37Don't say things that aren't true, liar.
14:40You a clown, mate? Yeah. A clown?
14:42Since your last lie detector test,
14:44have you passionately kissed anyone other than Shannon, said Lewis?
14:47Come on, mate. No, said Lewis.
14:49Lewis was lying again.
14:51LAUGHTER
14:55Don't do it this time.
14:58Come on, come on.
15:01Oi, oi, oi.
15:03It is not, oi, it is not men or women who can fight.
15:06Look at me. This is only about you wising up.
15:09He failed every single question.
15:11Look at me. Look at me.
15:13This is just about you.
15:15Oi, this way. Do me a favour, you.
15:17Learn, right, learn. Look at me.
15:19Look at me. Look at me.
15:21This is about realising you're worth more than that
15:23and going in the opposite direction.
15:26Where are we going?
15:29I'm not running after you, Lewis, so you've failed again.
15:32Come on, son.
15:34You've failed again. Come on, son.
15:45Come here, come here.
15:47Can I tell you something, right?
15:49Can I tell you something, right?
15:51Actually, let's just do that. Hold that. Listen.
15:55It's really difficult when the rest of the world knows the truth.
15:58Look at me, and you stick your head in the sand.
16:01This girl has only ever looked out for a cousin.
16:03I don't even need to open this, right?
16:07Danielle was telling the truth on every single question.
16:12Can I just say, you've definitely been replaced.
16:15Can I just say something?
16:17When everybody else is saying,
16:19this guy's no good, you stick your head in the sand,
16:21but the truth is, babe, it's now...
16:23Put up or shut up. You go back,
16:25and you will get no sympathy from anybody,
16:27because you know what he's done.
16:29You've been together a short time, he's cheated three times.
16:31Either you go, I'm worth more than this,
16:33forget, you know, all this, oh, how will I look?
16:35It's him who looks ridiculous.
16:39I'm going to put him in the back of the car.
16:43It's better than him anyway.
16:45You're coming home with me today.
16:47So you accept that the lie...
16:49I don't know why you're walking like... What are you doing?
16:51You failed the lie detector last time.
16:53Do you accept that that's right this time?
16:55Well, let's have a look at them.
16:57Well, no, you failed every question.
16:59No, let me look at them.
17:01I haven't got them, I got you. Where are they?
17:03I want to look at them.
17:05Oh, no, Danielle passed.
17:07Do you know what that says?
17:09Oi, oi, oi.
17:11That says he doesn't care.
17:13He didn't want you, he never did.
17:15Look at his face. If he cared about you...
17:17Look at you. Oh, my God!
17:19Oh, my God. You are such a...
17:21It's not that.
17:23It's not worth our time.
17:25He's got nothing there.
17:27Shannon, listen to me. Come here.
17:29Listen. I remember what I said nicely.
17:31Get lost. Go away.
17:33He's on you anyway.
17:35Oh, no.
17:37Listen.
17:39At the end of the day, it's now or never.
17:41Either you go back and everybody goes,
17:43Do you know what, Shannon? You've made your bed lying it.
17:45Or with your friends and the people that care about you,
17:47you go, I'm worth more than that, mate.
17:49Do you know what I mean?
17:51Don't go back to him.
17:53He's never got a change.
17:55Nice to meet you again.
17:57Is it done? Yeah, definitely.
17:59Nice to meet you.
18:01She, hopefully, is going to stand by what she said.
18:03You're not going back, are you?
18:05No.
18:07You are actually in love with this bloke,
18:09despite what you say.
18:11I am actually in love with that...
18:13All I'm doing is my DJ.
18:15That's it.
18:17I'll leave yours at five o'clock.
18:19You don't get home to me till midnight.
18:21That's a Thursday.
18:35Let's take a look at our next guest today.
18:37These two were notorious.
18:39They were a handful. Look at this.
18:41She's jealous,
18:43cos I'm getting all the limelight.
18:45And...
18:51Don't take the...
18:53out of me, woman, cos you're no good in...
18:55bed.
18:59She's no good in bed.
19:01She doesn't give a...
19:03She can't have a stick of teeth in.
19:05What do you mean, stick of my teeth in?
19:07Some men like it.
19:10It's not my fault that John can't make it rain.
19:15You want to know what that means?
19:17Yes, I do. I mean, you can't...
19:19Make me flood with...
19:25It's raining men.
19:27The name says she's back on the show
19:29as John is determined to take a lie detector test
19:31to prove that he's been faithful to her
19:33over the last three years,
19:35cos after that show,
19:37apparently they put their differences together.
19:39They're now both into the weather.
19:41Elaine says she's certain...
19:43This is what she's concerned about,
19:45that whilst John is DJing, he's changed his life,
19:47he's having it with his groupies.
19:49Do you think he's taken his headset off
19:51and says this could be the final straw?
19:53She says if he fails, he's out for good.
19:55Not that I believe this.
19:57This is a woman who made headlines across the world
19:59with the comment about the weather.
20:01Elaine is back on the Jeremy Carl show, that way.
20:07CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
20:11Explain to me one thing.
20:13I ain't sitting down
20:15until I get an apology off you.
20:17About what?
20:19About my flat when you turned round
20:21and said about it being grotty.
20:23Get the photos up
20:25and you can see how grotty it is.
20:27I've never been to your flat.
20:29No, you haven't.
20:31But on the last show you said
20:33you wouldn't want to come to my grotty flat.
20:35No, Steve,
20:37I am not sitting down
20:39until you get some photos up there
20:41of my flat and I prove to you
20:43my flat is gorgeous.
20:45It's very, very...
20:47I even got a toilet seat on there
20:49that's flaming New York.
20:51I bet you ain't.
20:53About what?
20:55Look, New York,
20:57beautiful,
20:59and you say that my flat is grotty.
21:01That is not grotty.
21:03That is not grotty.
21:07So you sit on the Big Apple.
21:09LAUGHTER
21:11APPLAUSE
21:17Sit down.
21:23I've never seen your flat.
21:25No, you haven't seen my flat.
21:27You slept with his friends.
21:29And?
21:31Do you know what I don't understand?
21:33What do you think he's been up to?
21:35I've no idea.
21:37Why are you two still together?
21:39He's had it on with my friend.
21:41I fell out with my friend for him.
21:43I've got new friends
21:45thanks to him.
21:47Why are you still with him?
21:49Shut up.
21:51Why are you still with him then?
21:53Because I ain't got no...
21:55That's why.
21:57Hold on.
21:59Well, then, if he is...
22:01I smell his...
22:03...mother.
22:05APPLAUSE
22:07CHEERING
22:09And then he wants me to give him...
22:11...me good...
22:13...cocoa.
22:15Why don't you...? You won't give him what?
22:19Why?
22:21Why? Because he kept trying to say I stick my...
22:23...teeth in.
22:25I can't stick my bottom teeth in.
22:27I think I've got a gum shield in me gut.
22:29You also said you don't like to perform...
22:31...oral sex on him because of the smell.
22:33Well, I don't.
22:35You said you're not a... I don't like the smell.
22:37Because he only had a flaming shower last night...
22:39...for the first time in about three weeks.
22:43At one point, he used to sleep...
22:45...in the same clothes as he used to go out in.
22:47Fully dressed.
22:49And he'd turn around and say,
22:51oh, that's because I'm cold.
22:53You sleep in your...
22:55...armors.
22:57No, you don't. You've only just started sleeping in your...
22:59...armors.
23:01I have a bath every night.
23:03Why are you with him?
23:05Why are you with him?
23:07I don't know because he's just...
23:09Why do you think...?
23:11I don't even know why you're together.
23:13New York toilet seats, cheesy bits.
23:15Why are you with him?
23:17And why do you think he's cheated?
23:19Because he don't want to leave.
23:21Then tell him he can't.
23:23And then you turn around and say,
23:25no, I want to be your doctor.
23:27When I left the show last time,
23:29I got home, I wouldn't let him in.
23:31He was outside my kitchen window shattering.
23:33Darling, let me in, please.
23:35I love you.
23:37You got home?
23:39You're here asking...
23:41God, you...
23:43God, you stupid...
23:47You're here for him to do a lie detector...
23:49...because you think he's been cheating whilst DJing...
23:51...with his groupies.
23:53What's a groupie?
23:55Because he's got this little girlie that always looks at him...
23:57...in the way that all girls look at men.
23:59And what about you?
24:01You sit down and stare at...
24:03...men.
24:05You have men looking at me like you have women looking at you.
24:07Oh, yeah, that's why I stopped some...
24:09You've been looking at you like...
24:13So you're jealous, then?
24:15Yeah, she is jealous.
24:17You are actually in love with this bloke, despite what you say.
24:19You are actually in love with that...
24:25What if he passes the test?
24:27Do you think he's really going to pass it?
24:29Then let him out!
24:31Let him go!
24:33Sometimes he'll turn round and say to me...
24:35...there's no show tonight.
24:37And then the next minute, you know...
24:39...he'll come back and say, ah, the show is on.
24:41So where are you going when you're saying...
24:43...after all, the show is on?
24:45Are you jealous of his success?
24:47Success?
24:49What? He's doing it in somebody's...
24:51...friend's living room, in a poxy...
24:53...flat!
24:55That is a poxy flat!
24:57But he is trying to...
24:59What?
25:01Grotty.
25:03Grotty flat.
25:05You've asked him to do a live tape...
25:07...to see whether or not he's had sex with his groupies.
25:09Yes?
25:11I think he's trying to change his life and deserve some respect.
25:13Jon's on the Jeremy card, so that works.
25:17There's all this about...
25:19...groupies.
25:21I...
25:23All I'm doing is...
25:25...my boss...
25:27That's it!
25:29I leave yours...
25:31...five o'clock...
25:33...get there at six o'clock...
25:35...seven o'clock...
25:37That's a...
25:39...Thursday.
25:41Don't be an affair.
25:43I stay home till eleven o'clock...
25:45...on a Thursday.
25:47Get your poppy!
25:49Get your poxy flat!
25:51No, no, it's a beautiful flat.
25:53I got told off.
25:55He says it's a poxy flat.
25:57Yeah, he always calls it a poxy flat.
25:59But the funny thing is...
26:01...Ed was the one that wanted the flat.
26:03Why are you still with her?
26:05She said you're...
26:07...mate.
26:09Do you know what?
26:11Do you know the last time I was on your show?
26:13Sit down!
26:15Yes! I've got a headache. Sit down.
26:19The last time I was on...
26:21In the end, people are just going to go, you keep moaning about it, do something about it!
26:23Put up or shut up!
26:25The last time I was on the show...
26:27...memorable, she...
26:29...picked me out.
26:31Stop swearing.
26:33She said you were out, mate.
26:35Because you...
26:37Shut up!
26:39No!
26:41Yes! Yes!
26:47No!
26:49It's my show, I'm not going anywhere!
26:51Shut up!
26:53It's my show too, because I'm the one that's on it.
26:55And if it weren't for me, you wouldn't have a show.
26:59If I didn't have you, I wouldn't have a show.
27:01If it weren't for people like me...
27:03...you wouldn't have a show, would you?
27:05And then nobody would be able to...
27:07...watch you.
27:09Good point.
27:11Why is it that trying to change your life...
27:13...being derided, all the stuff she's done...
27:15...she's slept with your mates...
27:17...why are you outside her back door, she said, right?
27:19Saying, I want...
27:21...back window, whatever she said, I want you back...
27:23...why don't you just go and leave it...
27:25...and make a success of your life...
27:27...and move the hell out!
27:29Make a success of your life!
27:31I tried!
27:33Get out of her house, she's never going to change!
27:35All I do is leave the flat at five o'clock...
27:37Why do you bother staying with her?
27:39I don't know where else to go.
27:41Have you been cheating on her with groupies?
27:43No.
27:45Why are you such a nerd?
27:47Why am I going to prove...
27:49...that's why I did a lie detector!
27:51But I bet you, you fail on one thing...
27:53...if not all of it!
27:55Well then, if he does...
27:57...you can finally leave him...
27:59...and start bishing about it, can't you?
28:07Since you started your DJ career...
28:09...three years ago, have you had...
28:11...sexual intercourse with anyone else?
28:13He said no, why did you say no?
28:15Because this man has been trying to improve his life...
28:17...despite everything you said was telling the truth again!
28:19Thank you!
28:21Of course!
28:23Interestingly...
28:25...you can't say the same...
28:27...because you're a cheat.
28:29Since you started your DJ career three years ago...
28:31...have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
28:33He said no. Do you know what?
28:35There you go!
28:37There!
28:43Why aren't you...
28:45Come here, come here!
28:47Come here a minute!
28:49I don't understand...
28:51...why you're together!
28:53It's rubbish!
28:55Well, if I can get Graham's help...
28:57...to find somewhere else to live...
28:59...I would leave her today!
29:01Yeah, so then you can have your...
29:03So then can't you?
29:05What about you?
29:07What about you when you...
29:09You slept with three people!
29:11And!
29:13And because you've done it on me first!
29:15Can I just say...
29:17You can't say nothing to me...
29:19...because I'm going!
29:21I'd like to say I'm going to stop you...
29:23...but I'm not!
29:25Here's the thing, this could go on forever...
29:27...to the point where I actually enter an early grave.
29:29If you, however difficult it is, we'll talk to you...
29:31If you stay in this, it's toxic.
29:33I believe, and I said it to you before, you're trying to improve your life.
29:35If you didn't try to improve your life, this woman's going to drag you down.
29:37Make a decision and stick to it.
29:39Give him a round of applause.
29:41Thank you, my friend. Nice to meet you.
29:45You make her show you around the house on FaceTime.
29:47So that's not normal, is it?
29:49Tell him how it makes you feel...
29:51...being checked up upon.
29:53I know you think it's not disloyalty.
29:55Whereas in a piece of s*** on the bottom of someone's shoe.
29:58You're saying that when you were last on this show...
30:00...and she was here...
30:02...he was what? Injured?
30:04He was killed.
30:28It's 09011. It's 123456.
30:30Of course, it costs 25 pence, plus network access charge.
30:42Thank you very much, Lee. Welcome back.
30:44My next guest today, John, is here to find out...
30:46...whether his fiancée has cheated on him...
30:48...and says that they have even put their wedding on hold...
30:50...because of his doubts.
30:52He says that she's cheated on him before.
30:54He's also seen messages between her and another man.
30:57He says, I'll never be able to trust her again.
30:59I will walk away.
31:01We might have three kids, but I am done if she's a cheat.
31:03John is on The Jeremy Carl Show.
31:15So, listen, we did...
31:17The reason we got you back was...
31:19...we did a show.
31:21DNA. You had doubts about the three kids.
31:23Let's see what happened. Have a look at this.
31:26I know this is tearing you apart...
31:28...but in two and a half years, you've done a lot.
31:30You need to know if the three kids are yours.
31:32She did admit to cheating on you once...
31:34...after a man texted you saying that he slept with her.
31:36Yeah, that's on the second child.
31:38Three children. Um...
31:40The...
31:42Kelly, sit down, please.
31:44Sorry, I...
31:46Sorry, they're my envelopes. This is my show.
31:50The DNA test results show that John...
31:52...is the biological father of Scarlett.
31:56Oh, God.
32:00The middle one was the concern, yeah?
32:02Yeah. The DNA test results show that John...
32:04Is this Hunter? Yeah.
32:06He's your son.
32:10Full house, mate. They're all yours.
32:20So, that should have solved the problems.
32:22Why are we back?
32:25What did she do, tell us?
32:27We never really got into detail.
32:33On the last show, Kelly proved the kids were mine...
32:35...but that doesn't mean she hasn't cheated.
32:37I'm working all day, providing for my family.
32:39She's got plenty of time to get up to no good.
32:41Yeah.
32:43You FaceTime her all the time, don't you?
32:45Yeah.
32:47You make her show you round the house on FaceTime.
32:49But that's not normal, is it?
32:51Well, no, it's not normal, no.
32:53You trusted her. Not saying that every single relationship...
32:55...is going to be fantastic, but if you have so little trust...
32:57...that you can't even go to work...
32:59I didn't doubt her. I just wanted to know the truth...
33:01...to move on, and we can...
33:03Yeah, but how does? All right, put it like this, right?
33:05Let's say you...
33:07She passes the lie detector.
33:09Why do I think that you would not change?
33:11You'd still doubt her. And you might have good reason to...
33:13...because she did it before.
33:15We've done the DNA. I'm not sticking up for her.
33:17She might be the biggest liar in the world...
33:19...but how do you move on with your life?
33:21How do you convince in your head that she's done that to you?
33:23Because some people, right?
33:25This is what I want to say.
33:27Some people say, I'll get over that, and they never can.
33:29And they chip, and they dig, and they ruin it in the end.
33:31If she passes, what does that mean?
33:33Happy.
33:35All right, let's get her out.
33:37Kelly's on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
33:39APPLAUSE
33:41APPLAUSE
33:51First show, three DNA tests.
33:53You were very calm, very mature.
33:55You proved that they were his.
33:57Before that, you said he didn't really bond with the children.
33:59No.
34:01Because he wasn't sure that he should.
34:03Is he a better dad now? Yeah, getting there.
34:05What do you mean, getting there? You told my team he's a bad dad.
34:07He's not a bad dad, no.
34:09John is a bad dad. He doesn't do anything with the kids.
34:11No, he's not a bad dad.
34:13That's what you said. I didn't.
34:15What, so they've made that up?
34:17Well, I wouldn't class him as a bad dad.
34:19Before the DNA test...
34:21What would you class him as, then?
34:23He is a good dad.
34:25He never helps the kids or cares for them?
34:27He works all day.
34:29By the time he gets home from work, they're in bed.
34:31John regularly FaceTimes me while he's at work.
34:33How does that make you feel?
34:35Some days it feels...
34:39Bad.
34:41Do you ever tell him that? No.
34:43You look like you'd rather be anywhere else in the world
34:45than here, don't you? Yeah.
34:47It's not my problem, though, it's your problem,
34:49because your husband doesn't trust you,
34:51because you cheated on him before, love.
34:53That's your fault.
34:57I said I held my hands up to that on the last time.
34:59But if he believed you, you wouldn't need to be here
35:01looking at me like I'm the devil incarnate.
35:03He's got the problem.
35:05Talk to each other.
35:07It's not my problem, it's not her,
35:09she's tried to say,
35:11look, John, nothing's happening.
35:13But I just can't get it out of my head.
35:15Tell me whether you've said, I haven't got time to cheat on John,
35:17I cook, clean and care for four kids, I'm exhausted
35:19and it makes it worse. Yeah.
35:21I do the housework. You tell Martini he's horrible to you.
35:23Can't be, yeah.
35:25What does he do?
35:27Calls me gnomes.
35:29Do you know how miserable you look?
35:31I'm going to go on being honest,
35:33is this how you envisaged your life at 28?
35:35I'm a man who doesn't trust you.
35:37You look really hacked off with life.
35:39I am. Why?
35:41Tell him.
35:43Yeah, cos we'll actually get somewhere.
35:45I don't believe you've cheated,
35:47but I think you need to tell him.
35:49And, John, whether you like this or not, pal,
35:51the reason I said what I said was
35:53I think you know you're being unreasonable,
35:55but I don't think you know the depth to which you're pushing.
35:57I need to... Forget I a minute.
35:59Look at this woman. I do.
36:01She's knackered, man, aren't you?
36:03Mentally and physically shattered.
36:05I'm pushing her away. I'm not denying that.
36:07I need a bit of help.
36:09Can you do me a little favour and tell him, please?
36:11Tell him how it makes you feel, because, Kel,
36:13listen, we can make this better,
36:15but not unless you open up.
36:17You're too scared to open up to him, aren't you?
36:19Why?
36:21Why?
36:23Tell him.
36:25Paul.
36:27Do me a favour, cos we can put this right.
36:29Don't take it the wrong way. Sit there.
36:31Put this right. Tell him how it makes you feel,
36:33being checked up upon.
36:35I know you think... It's not disloyalty.
36:37It's worse than a piece of shit on the bottom of someone's shoe.
36:39Now, listen,
36:41cos this will get better, I promise you.
36:43Listen to her. I know you don't want to,
36:45but you will.
36:47Go on.
36:49It does make me happy sometimes,
36:51but when it's accusing,
36:53I just feel like,
36:55what's the point?
36:57All I do is try and make things right.
36:59I do this, I do that.
37:01I'll bend over backwards for anyone.
37:05You just don't seem to get me anywhere.
37:09It's me. I know it is. It's me.
37:11Do you think these results will make a difference?
37:13I hope so.
37:15I've had a bad past.
37:17It's a shame.
37:19I know. I've had a bad past,
37:21and since meeting Kelly,
37:23she's directed me the right way,
37:25and I mean the right way.
37:27I know it is.
37:29I admire the fact that you say it's your fault,
37:31but if you don't change, mate, you'll lose her anyway.
37:33I know I do.
37:35Whether or not she sits here and tries.
37:37One day, we're going to get home,
37:39and whatever she says, she'll just go,
37:41I don't need that.
37:43I know. I absolutely do know.
37:45You could be wrong, though. She could be a massive cheat.
37:47I've done it before.
37:49Why would I do it again?
37:51Give me the results.
37:53I haven't got time to.
37:55Does he mate you sometimes
37:57by constantly nagging you, thinking,
37:59I don't know why Dan won't go and do it,
38:01just to stick his nose in it?
38:03No.
38:05She passed every single question.
38:19I'll give it to you, cos I didn't think I'd like you.
38:21You know this is you.
38:23This lady needs treasuring, mate.
38:25This lady needs looking after.
38:27This lady needs respecting.
38:29This lady needs a damn rest.
38:39Can you sign it?
38:43Please.
38:45She's all right, mate.
38:47And I know, cos it's funny, isn't it,
38:49when you do things like this,
38:51it turns you in the right direction.
38:53And I know. Do you know why he is like he is?
38:55Cos he'd be Jack without you,
38:57and he's terrified.
38:59But what he does, like a lot of men,
39:01cos do you know men are less secure than women, don't you?
39:03I'm scared of losing them.
39:05Yeah, and so he's scared.
39:07So what he does is he accuses you
39:09and pushes you away and checks up on you,
39:11cos he's going to convince himself one day
39:13that you're going to be exactly like the rest of them,
39:15but most of the time he can't believe that you got so lucky.
39:17But I'm just telling you, as you would be telling me,
39:19you'll mess it up, and she's a diamond, mate.
39:21So you've got to talk to him,
39:23and you've got to talk to Jack,
39:25and you've got to bite the bullet.
39:27And that moment when you're at work
39:29and you think, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God,
39:31I've been there, right?
39:33Give her the benefit of the doubt, you'll feel a million dollars.
39:35She's all right. You happy? I'll sign it.
39:39Promise to talk to Graham. Happy you've come back?
39:41Yes, thank you very much.
39:43Give her a break, all right?
39:45Really appreciate you coming.
39:47APPLAUSE
39:49Good luck to them.
39:51Right, my final guest today, Rebecca,
39:53came to the show accusing her friend Ellen of stealing money from her.
39:55Take a look at this, my friends.
39:59You say she's a serial thief and she's done it before.
40:01What's she done before?
40:03She's basically taken money and cried a few times.
40:07Memory stick by missing.
40:09Do you believe that she's a thief? Yeah.
40:11I would never steal away from you,
40:13and a memory stick? Of what?
40:15But you've stolen off her before, love.
40:17I have never stolen off her before. Come on!
40:19We asked Ellen, did you steal the money
40:21that went missing from Rebecca's purse?
40:23She said no. Why'd you say no?
40:25How sure were you? About 75.
40:27She was telling the truth.
40:29APPLAUSE
40:33One thing I would never do to you is steal from you.
40:35One thing I would never do in my life.
40:37You wouldn't take my word for it.
40:39I've proved that to you.
40:41I never steal from you, Beth.
40:43One thing I'd never do is do that.
40:45But you did take the memory stick, it was in your hand.
40:47I will do another one for you.
40:49I did not take that.
40:51She passed the test.
40:53That was a bit angry there, wasn't it?
40:55Now, Rebecca is apparently back again today
40:57to finally find out if Ellen,
40:59it was raised on that show,
41:01did in fact steal her memory stick,
41:03she says, that contained irreplaceable photos
41:05of her deceased parents.
41:07She says, this is massively important to me.
41:09She says, since the last show, Ellen has made her life hell
41:11and even believes...
41:13Am I reading this really?
41:15..Ellen paid someone to kill her cat.
41:17Ooh!
41:19Rebecca's back on the Jeremy Carr Show!
41:21That's right.
41:23APPLAUSE
41:29Welcome to the show.
41:31Welcome back to the show.
41:33Listen, when I read this this morning,
41:35cos we had you here before and you accused Ellen of nicking money
41:37and she passed the lie detector and I kept saying she passed,
41:39and you went, yeah, yeah, but there's this memory stick.
41:41Now, this is important to you, isn't it?
41:43Yeah. What was on it?
41:45Photos of my late parents and my kids.
41:47Why would she think that?
41:49Well, it was on the window in the bedroom
41:51and then a couple of days later,
41:53I saw it outside the house.
41:55Somebody passed the memory stick over to her.
41:57But you see, she's told my team
41:59that you won't rest until you stir
42:01every bit of rubbish up about her
42:03and you keep accusing her
42:05and you're just out to nail her.
42:07But you've passed the test before.
42:09I just won an old beer, so she took the money.
42:13This is where I sort of disappear into the realms
42:15of do I live on another planet from the people who come on the show
42:17because not only have you been here before
42:19and accused Ellen of stealing that money and she passed the test,
42:21now apparently she's nicked a memory stick
42:23off the inside of your house window whilst you were doing whatever.
42:25But even worse than that, you're saying
42:27that when you were last on this show
42:29and she was here,
42:31he was what, injured?
42:33He was, yeah. What?
42:35And you're saying
42:37that she arranged that while she was in Manchester
42:39so that she had an alibi?
42:41No, I've been told, basically,
42:43that she arranged
42:45to have, obviously, the cat killed.
42:47What happened to the cat?
42:49He was run over and he died instantly,
42:51straight on impact.
42:53Would it not have just been maybe an accident?
42:55Well, this is what's in my head,
42:57but obviously, it's a lot of...
42:59But you told my team that cat never gets injured,
43:01it's not that stupid.
43:03You might not be stupid,
43:05but if you get hit by a truck, you're not going to have much chance.
43:07I'm not stupid,
43:09but if I got hit by a truck, it'd be curtains.
43:11And a lot of celebration
43:13of a lot of people in England, to be fair.
43:15No, he wasn't stupid at all.
43:17He would sit on the road, I mean,
43:19he would step out and tell them to wait
43:21and then, obviously, you'd call him
43:23and he would come to you.
43:25So this cat was that intelligent?
43:27It would walk out the front door, it would wait,
43:29green cross road, wait for the traffic to go and nod
43:31and if you say to him,
43:33if you say to him, I'll stay,
43:35he'll stay there and then...
43:37If you said stay, it would stay,
43:39but you were in Manchester, but you're implying
43:41that a woman who was also in Manchester, about 300 miles
43:43from where the cat was crossing the road,
43:45somehow arranged for the truck to drive past at the exact moment.
43:47It does sound a bit far.
43:49I'm sorry about the cat, genuinely sorry,
43:51but how can it be her fault?
43:53Next minute, you'll be blaming her for I don't know what.
43:55No, it's...
43:57The Middle East crisis, an open cough.
43:59No, she's too undersaid.
44:01She's too undersaid,
44:03but she's seen the truth.
44:05Do you really... Do you hate Ellen?
44:07No.
44:09You said she's a lying, jealous thief.
44:11Yes. Her partner manipulates her.
44:13Who's her partner?
44:15Oh, yeah, I can't stand Rebecca, by the way,
44:17just so you're aware, this is him.
44:19She's interfering in my relationship with Ellen.
44:21There's absolutely no violence between Ellen and myself.
44:23I've helped Rebecca out in the past.
44:25I sold her a corner sofa, it's nice,
44:27I gave her 50 quid, and you still haven't given him the money.
44:29He never sold me my quid, he gave me my quid.
44:31Ellen did not steal...
44:33Ellen did not steal Rebecca's memory stick.
44:35When Ellen passes the lie detector,
44:37we never want to hear from Rebecca again.
44:39She keeps accusing us. That's what they think.
44:41You're convinced, and on a serious note,
44:43those photos of your deceased parents are massively important to you.
44:45That memory stick is something that's more important than money.
44:47Understand about the cat.
44:49We'll get her out and get her to it again, is that all right?
44:51Ellen's back on the Jeremy Carl show, that way.
44:53CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
44:57Welcome back.
44:59How do you feel about having to come back here again?
45:01You've done this before.
45:03It's ridiculous.
45:05I was back there and I heard four different stories.
45:07He was on a windowsill.
45:09You see me have it in my hand.
45:11Did you nick the memory stick?
45:13Do you really think I did?
45:15I don't damn well know. I'm losing the will to live.
45:17I've got no will to live.
45:19Are you a cat killer?
45:21I was here for God's sake.
45:23Did you ring somebody and go,
45:25Hold on, I'm on the... Listen.
45:27I'm on the Jeremy Carl show, I'm in Manchester, right?
45:29You know I hate this woman.
45:31I want you to go and run over a cat.
45:33Now, I don't know when the cat's going to come out the front door.
45:35LAUGHTER
45:37I'm not altogether sure if the cat flap's working,
45:39but the thing is, right, while I'm here,
45:41it's a good alibi, I hang around for a couple of days
45:43and hopefully, if the cat comes...
45:45That's what...
45:47CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
45:49That's what...
45:53Anyway, how am I supposed to have paid someone to kill a cat?
45:56I didn't say pay, I said...
45:58You've just said it to him, that someone paid...
46:01I'm supposed to have paid someone?
46:03I told you to pay 12 people to kill.
46:05Does it look like I would actually kill a cat?
46:07Or pay someone to kill a cat?
46:09But she told us the RSPCA took your cats away
46:11cos you're rubbish with cats.
46:13Shall I tell you what happened? If you must.
46:15I'm allergic to most things, like dust, cat fur and things like that.
46:18It's a good idea that I'm allergic to cat fur,
46:20so let's have some cats in me house.
46:22LAUGHTER
46:24Doesn't make sense, love, does it?
46:26Get seasick, let's go on a cruise.
46:28LAUGHTER
46:30I got one because at the time, I'd just moved into my own property...
46:33My entire show is about cats!
46:36Did you steal the memory stick? Because this is the important thing.
46:39No, I did not.
46:41She says she didn't. Just do the test. Just do it.
46:44Did you kill the cat? Really? I was... Yeah.
46:47Jeremy, I've even been told she was reported to Cat Protection
46:51and they actually removed her cat. I've run Cat Protection...
46:54No, I got hold of Cat Protection myself to take Misty
46:57because I kept sneezing with his fur.
46:59I was reported. I was not reported.
47:01I had the greatest time, love and understanding for all animal lovers,
47:05but we're talking about a memory stick!
47:07Just do the results.
47:09All right, suddenly... Oh, I see, I'm just the...
47:12Shall I do...? Just do it.
47:14Because this woman lost her cat.
47:16And her memory stick.
47:17And do you know what? I'm actually gutted that he's gone
47:20because I love that cat myself. Oh, God.
47:22AUDIENCE GROANS
47:24Despite the fact that you're allergic.
47:26Yeah, despite I'm allergic, I actually love cats.
47:28I love you. Don't come near me. I'll come out and...
47:31I love you. Just stay there.
47:33A lovely cat.
47:39Ellen came here before. You accused her of nicking money.
47:42She passed. This time, did you steal Rebecca's memory stick?
47:45And we must make the point, Bex, it's important to Rebecca
47:48because it had those pictures of your deceased parents.
47:50You said no. Why did you say no?
47:52You're not coming back here again. She's telling the truth again.
47:55CHEERING
48:00We haven't asked you to kill the cat.
48:02Do you know for sure who stole the memory stick?
48:04You know, just complicit. She said... What?
48:06No, I don't. No, she was telling the truth.
48:08Why didn't we say, did you arrange for the cat to be killed?
48:11I don't suppose you can do that on a lie detector.
48:13All right, we've got to stop this. It's not fair!
48:15CHEERING
48:19I feel very sorry for this lady, because that memory stick was important,
48:22but, honestly, darling, I can't do any more.
48:24It was important to her. She didn't eat the money,
48:26she didn't eat the memory stick. I don't think she killed your cat.
48:29Anything else? Firstly, well done.
48:31And to this one, if I said that, I would have said it to you, Bex.
48:34I am, for this morning, out of time. If you'd like to be here, you need my help.
48:37Visit the website. The details are on screen.
48:39Thank you to the guests, the audience and to you at home.
48:42CHEERING AND APPLAUSE