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Greg Bedard and Nick Cattles break down the Patriots losing to the 49ers on Sunday, and what exactly went wrong. Is it fixable? Is Jerod Mayo losing control of his team? Additionally, they discuss the recent injury news the Patriots are dealing with, and how that could affect the team going forward.  0:00-5:09: David Andrews Injury 5:09-15:54: Dealing with Offensive Line Play 15:54-21:06: Mayo's Personnel Comments 21:06-23:46: PrizePicks 23:46-30:10: Could Drake Maye Start Soon? 30:10-31:21: Davante Adams to Patriots? 31:21-34:44: Is Week 5 a Must-Win? 34:44-35:56: Gametime 35:56-39:43: Alex Van Pelt is STRUGGLING 39:43-45:20 Defensive Woes 45:20-51:30: Coaching Incompetence 51:30-54:14: 3 Up, 3 Down   ************************************************ Patriots Content Brought to you by....  Prize Picks - https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/CLNS Download the app today and use Code CLNS at PrizePicks.com/CLNS & Get $50 instantly when you play $5!   Gametime - https://gametime.co Take the guesswork out of buying NFL tickets with Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code CLNS for $20 off your first purchase. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime! Merch Store - https://shop.clnsmedia.com  Social Media!!!!  Patriots Twitter- https://twitter.com/patriotsclns  Patriots Instagram-  https://www.instagram.com/patriotsclns/  Facebook- https://facebook.com/clnsmedia  LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/company/clnsmedia/about/  Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@clnsmedia *********************************************************  ABOUT PATRIOTS COVERAGE ON CLNS:   Welcome to the CLNS Media Network’s YouTube channel for New England Patriots  football.  CLNS Media is the leading online provider of audio/video coverage for the 6X Super Bowl Champions.  Get complete inside access to the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro and everywhere on the road. CLNS Patriots credentialed insiders Greg Bedard, Andrew Callahan, Tayler Kyles, John Zannis, Alex Barth and Mike Kadlick provide instantaneous news and analysis all in real time, as well as full access to complete videos from the players, coaches, ownership and everyone else inside Patriots Place.  If you enjoy CLNS’ Celtics  All Access and are craving more Boston sports content, you head over to CLNS’ Patriots  Press Pass at   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqX7G3pEDTseNxtoDU27PEg?sub_confirmations=1   __________________________________________________________________________  For Celtics Content:    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmp3kivpOg3lzoJC7yV7VjQ?sub_confirmations=1   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmp3kivpOg3lzoJC7yV7VjQ?sub_confirmations=1    Celtics Twitter - https://twitter.com/CelticsCLNS   Celtics Instagram - https://instagram.com/celticsCLNS  Twitter Main- - https://twitter.com/clnsmediaCLNS  Main Instagram - https://instagram.com/clnsmedia

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00:00This is the Gregg Bedard Patriots podcast with Nick Cavins.

00:10Lots to talk about today, and I don't think much of it, if any of it, is good, but we're

00:14going to get to it.

00:15He's Gregg, I'm Nick.

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00:42All right, Gregg, we start with the news from this morning, and it's been a little bit all

00:47over the place with David Andrews.

00:48Mark Daniels of MassLive came out and he reported that David Andrews was deciding whether or

00:55not to have surgery on the shoulder.

00:59If he doesn't have surgery in place through the injury, he's likely to miss all of 2025.

01:05Then we had Andrew Callahan who reported that, of course, from the Boston Herald, that no

01:09decision was imminent.

01:11Then we just heard from Ian Rappaport in the last hour or so, and Ian says that it's expected

01:18that Andrews is going to get the surgery and that he's going to be done for the year.

01:22First, have you heard anything about Andrews?

01:25Second, your thoughts on all three of those reports.

01:28Well, I'll just, you know, what I've heard is that it's believed that he is going to

01:35have surgery, season-ending surgery, and that will do it for 2024.

01:43Another hit for the Patriots, another big loss on a unit that they really couldn't afford.

01:50Now, you know, I will say this, and, you know, first of all, on Andrews, all the respect

01:57in the world.

01:58I love watching his film.

01:59I think he's been criminally underrated around here and in the league in recent years.

02:07Everybody wants to sort of put dirt on his grave and say that, you know, he's getting

02:10old.

02:11He's, you know, he's not, he's lost a step and all that stuff, and to me, it's nonsense.

02:17I think he's been a terrific player for this team in the scheme.

02:22He's always been probably consistently their best offensive lineman going back years.

02:28Game in, game out, he gave you a consistent level.

02:31Often it was a terrific level.

02:34Are other guys faster and stronger and get to the second level more around the league?

02:38Yeah, but I'll take David Andrews anytime.

02:43That being said, I don't think hope is all lost.

02:47I think if we at least judging off the San Francisco 49ers game, I thought Nick Leverett

02:55came in and played terrific.

02:57I had him for no negative plays in the game.

03:01I had him for three plus run blocks.

03:05That's a typical David Andrews game.

03:07I thought he was really good.

03:09He was, I would say he's, he's a little bit more powerful than David.

03:15The issues that we saw in the preseason were mostly with a shotgun snaps.

03:19Those have not been an issue.

03:22At least they weren't against the San Francisco 49ers.

03:26You know, we need to see the way teams attack Leverett as opposed to Andrews.

03:31Maybe they do things a certain way.

03:32Now I will say the Patriots interior and this includes when Andrews was in there, had a

03:37tough time with San Francisco.

03:40It got better when Leverett was in there.

03:44But we're going to have to see.

03:45And then you also have the possibility now, especially it might force your hand where

03:50when whenever Cole strange comes back, you're probably going to have to to train them up

03:59at center because you have enough guards.

04:02You have plenty of guards, too many guards.

04:04So that's something that we've talked about going back to when Cole strange was drafted.

04:10I don't think it's an ideal fit.

04:12I don't think he, I don't, I don't know if he's going to be good at it because it's more

04:16of a, in this system, I think he would have been a better center in the old system than

04:21this one because this system puts a lot on the center.

04:26Actually they're in charge of everything at the line where the old system used to be on

04:30the quarterback and the center just did what the quarterback basically said.

04:36I don't think that's a strong point for Cole strange, but I think they're at the point

04:39now where they have to go that route with them.

04:43I know I'm going to catch all sorts of heat for this and guess what?

04:47I couldn't care less.

04:49I'm going to talk about the offensive line for a minute, but before I do Gerard Mayo,

04:54while we've, while we are recording, this is actually at the dais and then speaking

04:59with the media and he just made it official that he said, it looks like Andrews is going

05:03to have surgery and he'll be likely done for the year.

05:05So we, we know that much now from the head coach, I'm not telling you the offensive line

05:12would be bad, good, great, awesome, but this is now getting to the point of ridiculous

05:21when it comes to injury.

05:23And when you, when you look back and you evaluate things, we have to keep the context

05:29out there because context is important.

05:32Six, six of the top eight offensive linemen at camp have either been injured, are injured

05:41or left the team due to mental health.

05:44I don't know how many teams would be able to survive this and play good football upfront.

05:50Now can they survive at certain spots?

05:53But this is getting close.

05:55If it's not already there, it's getting close to being a calamity.

05:58I mean, last week you had your fourth string left tackle city.

06:01So coming back finally from injury with his first game and then your backup center backup,

06:06right guard and backup, right tackle.

06:09This offensive line is a bunch of mixing and matching and hoping for the best.

06:14And I don't know where you go from here, but I'm sure this was not Elliott Wolf's plan

06:19to have six or seven dudes hurt and or leave the team pretty much all at the same time.

06:24Now people will say that's excuse making.

06:26Again, I will tell you it is a reason why we haven't been able to figure out the offensive

06:32line.

06:33When, when you have all of this stuff happening, it was the same thing last year through the

06:37first six weeks or so the offensive line was a disaster, mixing and matching, trying to

06:43figure it out.

06:44And then actually the second half of the season, the offensive line got better.

06:46But by then the quarterbacks were broken.

06:50You don't have any time to evaluate guys, gain continuity and sink or swim.

06:56So I don't know what the desired offensive line would have looked like by week five.

07:01All I can tell you now is it's a disaster and I am surprised that Gerard Mayo, something

07:07else he just said, Greg, is that at this time, the team is not going to bring in a veteran

07:12offensive tackle.

07:14I don't know what Wallace's injury situation is.

07:18I know it was reported that he had crutches on and I mean he had crutches and he had a

07:22boot on after the game on Sunday.

07:25I don't know what Vardarian Lowe's injury is, but I'll tell you if those guys are set

07:29to be out for multiple weeks, it is irresponsible by Elliott Wolf and Gerard Mayo to not bring

07:35some sort of veteran offensive tackle, at least out of the practice squad.

07:39I don't know how you think you can go in there with the Monterey Jacobs and pretty much nobody

07:44else behind him and think that's a good idea.

07:47Yeah, I mean, you know, the problem is the Patriots are getting to the point and you

07:56know, and when you say sort of veteran offensive tackle, are you talking like a Donovan Smith,

08:05somebody who's played a starter before?

08:08I would take any veteran offensive left tackle that would be willing to play for the Patriots

08:15because I do think, again context, I do think it'll be a tough sell to bring in certain

08:22guys.

08:23It just depends on if they really want to play football or not.

08:26At this point, you're one in three.

08:27Everybody sees what you are as a product.

08:29They see your offensive coordinator, they see your quarterback and they see all these

08:33injuries up front.

08:34So maybe some of these guys would say, you know what, I don't even want the paycheck

08:37to join you, but I would be looking under every rock.

08:40They had somebody in yesterday.

08:42His name escapes me.

08:43He played for the Saints, right?

08:45He has some experience.

08:46He's played guard.

08:47He did play some left tackle a number of years ago.

08:50I'd be looking under every rock, Greg, at this point, if low and or Wallace are going

08:56to be out for, like I said, multiple weeks.

08:59Yeah, I mean, that's where I was sort of going with that, that, you know, I think the time

09:05of them getting, say, like a Donovan Smith or a, you know, David Bakhtiari or Charles

09:13Leno, one of these guys who's started before in the league, I think I think that's over

09:18because I do think that these guys look at the situation with the Patriots and say.

09:24So I'm going to I'm going to get off my couch and make a little bit of money and be on a

09:32crap show offense that's probably going to win somewhere between four and six games.

09:37Yeah, no, no, thanks.

09:40Yeah, I'm just looking at their roster to figure out exactly what they have at this

09:44point and like what they have on.

09:46So let's see the practice squad as far as offensive linemen, they have Liam Fornadel,

09:51who is more of a center.

09:52He's like a Dan Conley type of guy.

09:55Brian Hudson, who's a center, another center, Jalen McKenzie, offensive

10:02tackle. I have no idea who he is.

10:06Caleb Jones, offensive tackle.

10:08So they they have some guys on there that have been at least practicing with the team

10:14for a short period of time.

10:19You know, to your discussion earlier about, you know, I think you've said they've lost

10:25like six of eight guys that they that they've had in the mix.

10:28And, you know, I will say sort of where I am on all this is that I think it's safe to

10:35say right now that probably the main criticism of Elliott Wolfe is that, you know, he

10:42didn't he went in with a plan and look, it didn't work.

10:45That happens, you know, like, you know, a core four and a Vidarian low and and guys

10:53like that. You know, it it it didn't work.

10:58He obviously should have put more resources into it.

11:02He should have given himself more options.

11:05And that includes also, you know, as we've talked about, like, you know, trading up into

11:09the draft, I found it interesting that there was a player from TCU.

11:14The name escapes you right now.

11:15But I know Daniel Jeremiah tweeted about him.

11:18I think he's on the Commanders.

11:20Yeah. Is he on the Commanders?

11:22Yeah, yeah.

11:23And he went one pick before Caden Wallace and he he started at left tackle or played a

11:30lot at left tackle for the Commanders.

11:32And we know how their offense is going.

11:35Look, just, you know, about the offensive line, I understand.

11:40Yes, their situation.

11:45Injuries play, what have you like, it definitely puts a limit on what this offense can

11:52do. That's obvious, I think, to anyone.

11:56My contention would be.

11:59It doesn't need to be this bad, like there there are ways as an offensive coordinator.

12:05I agree with that, by the way.

12:06Yeah, that you can scheme things that you say, like, look, nobody's nobody's talking about

12:11them being, you know, middle of the, you know, middle of the league.

12:15I mean, even middle of the league.

12:17I don't think anybody's calling for that.

12:19But to be one of the worst offenses in the NFL, I'm sorry, it's just not an excuse.

12:23I mean, to leave Demantre Jacobs single blocked against Nick Bosa.

12:29Ridiculous. I think I had it at least eight times in the game, including the very first

12:34third down. Well, not the first third down, but the third down that ended the first drive

12:39of the game. Single block Nick Bosa.

12:42I could tell you, like if Josh McDaniels was here and Dante Skarnacki was coaching the

12:47offensive line, that would never, ever happen.

12:50Certainly not that early in the game.

12:52Never happened. You know, there's way too many times where the Patriots sent five guys

12:58out in the route. And that's just not a way of that's not a path forward for success for

13:05this team. I mean, I watch a lot of these other teams, including the 49ers on Sunday.

13:10A lot of their biggest plays are only with two or three, two guys and a running back

13:16leaking out of the backfield late, whether it's the 49ers, the Saints, these really good

13:21like West Coast teams.

13:24You know, a lot of times there's only really two guys out in the route, that means

13:28everybody else is blocking and helping and that's not happening enough on this team.

13:32So, yes, they've had a crappy run.

13:36The plan was crappy.

13:39The run that they're on right now with injuries and stuff like that is crappy, but that

13:45doesn't need to be. They need to be crap on offense.

13:48And that's where they are right now.

13:49Yeah, we'll get to some of the other issues.

13:51As I said, Gerard Mayo's talking.

13:53So there's lots of news coming out that we will cover in a minute here.

13:56Just to put a bow on the offensive line.

13:59I could go back and forth three hours with you on this.

14:02I'm not going to.

14:03It will glaze people's eyes over if they're listening in their car, they might drive off

14:07the road. I will just tell everybody I did a 52 minute no commercial podcast last week on

14:14the offensive line and it was looking at all because I'm so tired when I'm tired of Greg

14:20is people saying they should assign better somebody better than Chuck's a core for.

14:24OK, great. Give me a name.

14:26They should have drafted so and so they should have moved up and done this.

14:29OK, give me a name.

14:31And when I did this podcast last week, Darian Lowe, his pro football focus grade was

14:37higher than any other offensive tackle that was taken in the second round of the draft.

14:42Um, that's at that point.

14:44It doesn't mean that by the end of the season, Darian Lowe would have outplayed those guys.

14:49But most of those guys, first of all, have not played, which tells you they needed, as

14:54Greg would say, more time in the oven.

14:57Suamata was he started the first two weeks and I'm a Suamata guy.

15:01I had them drafting him in the second round of my mock draft.

15:04But the fact is, he stunk the first two weeks and they benched him.

15:08So he was not ready.

15:11So we like to play these games and I just want solutions because everybody has the

15:17diagnosis. Oh, this isn't going well.

15:20Well, tell me what you would have done.

15:21And it's not it's not to protect or defend Elliott Wolfe.

15:25I will criticize him when he deserves the criticism.

15:30And he you know, but to go out there and say, well, they didn't sign a left tackle.

15:34That was a veteran. Again, I did the homework.

15:38Fifty two straight minutes, folks, on offensive line talk and who was actually

15:43available, who was actually draftable, the decisions the Patriots made and how they

15:48stack up analytically.

15:50Go listen to it. I think it will open up a lot of your eyes.

15:53All right, let's get to Gerard Mayo because he's yapping.

15:59First. He says that there is some consideration to start Antonio Gibson over

16:06Ramondre Stevenson on Sunday.

16:08I ask you, Greg, should they start Antonio Gibson on Sunday?

16:12Hundred percent. You know, not only well, first and foremost, I mean, it's it's a

16:18fumble in four straight games.

16:19And now this this last fumble, there are there were circumstances with it, you know,

16:25namely city.

16:27So pulling and not blocking anyone, which we will get to in a few minutes.

16:34But you combine that also with Antonio Gibson's been really good.

16:39You know, he's he's been dynamic, like, you know, I think one of his one of his first

16:45carries, I think the other day, I forget who it was who got beaten.

16:49I don't know if it was Andrews, if that was the play when Andrews got jacked up, like

16:53pushed back five yards where you're just like, oh, something's wrong with David

16:57Andrews. That never happens.

16:59But Gibson still made like, I don't know, five yards.

17:02But he does that repeatedly.

17:05He's got some he's got some flash to him.

17:08I call him a whirling dervish.

17:11And, you know, the 50 yard sort of check down pass that he had at the end of the game.

17:17Yeah, I think it's it's it's time.

17:19I think that Antonio Gibson needs to start.

17:22He needs to be in the starting role this week.

17:23That means he starts.

17:25He gets two out of three series and Stevenson can work his way back to number one.

17:30There were three Mayo notes.

17:32I'll hold on to one of them when we get to the defense against San Francisco.

17:36But the other no.

17:37And this is very important.

17:39Mayo says that Kendrick Bourne, Sion Takitaki and Marte Mapu will all return to practice

17:45today. And he was asked whether or not they'll play on Sunday.

17:48He said, you know, not sure if all three guys are going to be able to go.

17:52It's kind of to be determined.

17:54But your thoughts on on those three players coming back, I find it interesting, Greg.

17:58Obviously, it's pretty critical, you know, with Juwan Bentley out linebackers and coverage.

18:03We saw Tavai again drop into coverage a couple of times on Sunday.

18:07It was a miserable experience.

18:09Wide receiver Kendrick Bourne obviously will help that room.

18:12He's their best receiver on the roster.

18:15And Marte Mapu is an interesting guy because he could play safety.

18:18And of course, Duggar is now going to be out for some time, but he also could play some

18:21linebackers. So just your thoughts on those three players and how much we should expect

18:25from them. I'm never a fan of like just

18:31throwing guys in.

18:34You know, like, for example, like City, so this past weekend against the 49ers,

18:41I know there were circumstances like Michael Jordan not being available because Michael Jordan was playing

18:45fine at left guard. And I think if the Patriots had their choice, they probably just would

18:50have left Michael Jordan as a starting left guard and maybe worked City.

18:53So into the game or at least, yeah, at least that's what I'm going off of.

18:57I know, like Bill Belichick would have done that.

19:01City, so was not ready to play in that game.

19:03His pad level was terrible.

19:04He played terrible.

19:07Like he had to do it because of the the Jordan injury, as I said.

19:11But, you know, ideally, you work these guys back in a little slowly.

19:16I don't think that they have the same thing as so.

19:20I don't think they have the luxury of waiting.

19:23They need Kendrick Bourne out there now.

19:26I don't think he's going to bring a whole lot to them.

19:28It's going to take him a while to get his legs under him.

19:30But, you know, if one of the weapons that Alex Van Pelt could use if he chooses it to

19:40bring any juice to this passing offense is, you know, bunching Kendrick Bourne, Douglas

19:46and Polk together and sort of, you know, getting levels to the passing game, something that he hasn't

19:52really done a whole lot of.

19:54And it's been a frustration of mine.

19:57So I want to see that.

19:59I think they need talkie talkie because, you know, to buy.

20:03Especially if Jennings is out again, they need to buy more on the edge.

20:07He's better there.

20:08He can't drop in the coverage.

20:10Talkie talkie is more of an athlete at at linebacker Mapu with the Duggar thing and also

20:17their their linebacker coverage and in and pass.

20:22They need him out there now.

20:24Again, I don't know what the hell he does or how good he is because he's never been on the

20:29field. He's like, I don't know, he's some sort of like he's a mythical creature.

20:37Right. Yeah. I mean, certainly we know the skill set that he has and we've all been like

20:43enticed by that. But the dude hasn't been able to stay on the field for more than like five

20:48minutes. So but they need him.

20:50And so I expect all those guys to play this weekend.

20:54All right. We got more coming up.

20:55But first, Greg, I know what you want to do right now.

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21:36I've been doing my prize pick first two weeks.

21:38Not that great. Again, I tell you that.

21:41I just stick to the Patriots game and their upcoming opponent because I can't tell you

21:46like I don't pay attention to the league enough to know like how many how much usage

21:51somebody is going to be. But I have a pretty good idea with the Patriots in this past week,

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22:04fun. I had Antonio Gibson more than six and a half receiving yards.

22:09Boom. Checkmark.

22:10Romandre Stevenson more than 13 and a half receiving yards.

22:14Boom. Checkmark.

22:16Nick Bosa.

22:17This one was going down to the wire.

22:19Yeah, he got close a few times.

22:21I was like, I just need the Bosa sack.

22:23I just need a half a sack.

22:25And that strip sack on the final drive gave me a checkmark there.

22:28Brock Purdy more than nine and a half rushing yards.

22:31I think he had that on the on the first third down.

22:34Thanks to Keon White.

22:35Thanks, Keon White for the Brock Purdy rushing yards on the first drive.

22:41And Juwan Jennings more than 47 and a half receiving yards because the Patriots were

22:46sieve in the back end.

22:47And so that meant I hit on that second straight week.

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23:15Dolphins game.

23:16I could just tell you I'm probably going less than on just about everything in that

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23:45And by the way, I should also point out that I nailed my 49ers Patriots score 30 to

23:5130. You did you did.

23:53And I tweeted before the game.

23:55I had 2413 and I stood by the prediction just to stand by the prediction.

24:00But I did tweet out with Kittle and Debo and Trent all playing.

24:06I said I would not be surprised if San Francisco gets to 30.

24:09So I didn't nail it.

24:11But if I if I knew then what I you know, if I knew at that point earlier in the week, I

24:16might have agreed with your score, which would have just looked like I was copying you

24:20anyway. And by the way, shout out a big thank you.

24:23Big swing in Bedard here walking into the room needs to send a shout out to AVP who

24:29saw Nick Bosa treat Trey Jacobs like a useless paper towel in the drive before and

24:37almost killed Brissett to then decide to go one on one with Bosa again with an empty

24:42backfield so Bosa could get the strip sack.

24:45So thank you, Alex.

24:46We'll get to more of that in a little bit.

24:48All right, let me start here quickly, just quickly.

24:53We talked about the offensive line.

24:55This is kind of our weekly update.

24:57Is there a chance in hell now that David Andrews is out that you would think about

25:01starting Drake May in the next couple of weeks?

25:05Well, this is it's a little complicated and I'll try to be quick about it.

25:12Number one, they painted themselves into this corner.

25:15We talked about it ad nauseum for weeks that there's not another veteran quarterback

25:18that say, you know, worst case scenario because of their quote unquote plan, which

25:23I love their plan.

25:24I think you and I both said Drake may he's raw, but he's if you think he's the dude

25:29and he has the talent to be the dude is the intangibles to be the dude, then draft

25:35the dude and develop a plan and then stick to the plan at all costs.

25:41I've said that I stand by that.

25:45The problem is they didn't leave themselves any outs, which I would not have done.

25:48I would have brought in a veteran.

25:50We talked about it at the time, some veteran on the practice squad, just to give

25:54yourself options, just in case something happens like, um, Jacoby Bursette, but a

25:59Bursa's spleen behind this line or where we are right now, where it, where Jacoby

26:07Bursette is, uh, his effective effectiveness is lessening with every week, including.

26:14I thought he was terrible in this game against the 49ers.

26:18I thought that there were plays there to be made.

26:21Um, this was my going back to 2021 Mack Jones's rookie season.

26:26This is my fourth worst graded game for a Patriots quarterback.

26:32Um, we all know about the pick six where, you know, two guys were open.

26:36Yes, there were pressure.

26:37There was pressure on the play, but if Jacoby anticipated better, the ball

26:42already would have been out to pop Douglas or Jalen Polk for a big, a big

26:47gain and, and instead he was staring down the dig with Tyquan Thornton on the

26:52backside, I think because on the first drive, on the first third down, the

26:56ended, or the third down the end of the first drive, he did not

27:00anticipate a dig to Jalen Polk.

27:03They probably came back to the sideline and said, you Colby,

27:05you got to throw the dig.

27:07You got to throw the dig.

27:08He's he hasn't Drake may throws the dig.

27:11Um, Jacobi Brissett does not.

27:15And I, I, I can almost guarantee you he came to the sideline after the first

27:18series and they're like, next time we're dialing this up, you got to throw the dig.

27:22Guess what?

27:23He stared down the dig.

27:24Fred Warner made a ridiculous play and it went for a pick six.

27:28And by the way, kudos to Jalen Polk for walking off the field during the pick six.

27:31Nice job.

27:32Um, but, uh, look, if Jacobi Brissett plays like this against the dolphins,

27:40um, if this continues, then Drake may is going to have to go in

27:45because they have no other choice.

27:46I mean, they, you cannot, I don't care what your plan is.

27:49You painted yourself into this corner.

27:51If it, there are already things fraying on this team.

27:55If you add on top that, um, that the team sees Jacobi Brissett playing

28:02crappy, similar to Cam Newton at the, at the end of, of his first

28:08season or his only season here.

28:10Um, similar to Mack Jones last year.

28:13If this becomes a week after week thing, then you're going to lose the team.

28:18They're going to say, why, why are we going with this guy who we can all see?

28:22He's not, he's not delivering the ball and making these choices, right?

28:26We have Drake may ready to go.

28:28And so, um, I don't really care about the state of the offensive line.

28:32If Jacobi Brissett is ineffective, Drake may has to go in.

28:36I think if the players start to be totally out on Brissett, that's when

28:43you pretty much have to make the move.

28:45I don't want may out there until they somewhat settle the online.

28:48And what I mean by that is it doesn't have to be a, you know,

28:51it doesn't have to be perfect.

28:52It doesn't even have to be very good.

28:53It just can't be the five alarm fire, whether it's AVP figuring some stuff out.

28:58You get a couple of players back.

29:00Like, I just want to see one week.

29:02That's less than 40% pressure rate for the love of God.

29:06Um, I'd feel a little bit better about it, right?

29:09And there are ways to do that, that he's not doing and Kendrick

29:12Bourne, which we'll get to in a minute.

29:13We Kendrick Bourne coming back will help, I think, because he's a quick

29:17separator at the line of scrimmage to go along with pop and pokes

29:21been getting open, by the way.

29:23Um, you know, if you look at fantasy sports data, I know Greg has been

29:27combing through, I'm sure the stats over there, uh, I saw a statement.

29:31I saw a statistic this morning though, that Jalen poke is tied with, uh, with

29:37Mitchell, AD Mitchell for, you know, separation percentage out of rookie

29:41receivers, like he's getting, he's getting separation on more snaps than.

29:46Any other rookie is getting at that position.

29:48It's just preset and it's the offensive line and it's this and it's that.

29:52So I'd hold off at least a little bit longer with may, but if, but my caveat

29:59is if the players quit ombre set, then you've got to make the move.

30:01You, you cannot continue to roll them out there.

30:03If the guys know this is a joke, because then as you said, Greg, you'll lose the

30:07team.

30:08Um, maybe somebody that's out there that could help the Patriots.

30:11Devontae Adams.

30:12He wants out of Vegas.

30:14I don't think you or I think it's going to happen, but if you're Elliot

30:17Wolf, do you at least make the call?

30:19Hell no, no, no.

30:21That's all they need.

30:22I mean, they already have Tyreek Douglas and Jalen Jefferson, um, stomping around

30:28and throwing temper tantrums on the field.

30:30That's all they need is Devontae Adams.

30:32Like, you know, uh, on the sideline telling them, like, I can't wait to get

30:37out of here.

30:37Like you did on the receiver show on Netflix.

30:41Like I got to get out of here.

30:42Um, uh, Dev, Devontae Adams is on the downside of his career.

30:48Um, you know, the Patriots are looking for receiver types.

30:52Now, you know, if the Bengals go down the tubes or something like that, am I trying

30:56to get T Higgins now and get them signed to an extension?

30:58Yeah.

30:59Somebody like that.

31:00I'd be more willing to do that.

31:02Devontae Adams.

31:03Um, no, no, that would not help anything at all right now.

31:09Yeah.

31:09I brought up the Higgins thing last week.

31:10I agree with you.

31:11Um, I'm kind of keeping my eye on Cincy.

31:14Uh, and as far as Adams, it sounds like it could be the jets.

31:17It could be the saints, maybe the commander slide in.

31:19We'll see what happens.

31:20Uh, week five, Greg is early to ask this question, but you talked a little bit

31:25about some of the guys, uh, getting upset on the field.

31:28Uh, Kyle Duggar is now, you know, his timeline's TBD.

31:33You lose David Andrews.

31:35You've lost Juwan Bentley.

31:37And we always talk about those guys as far as on field contributors.

31:41Right.

31:42But I think we also have to appreciate the soul of a football team and the

31:46leadership of a football team.

31:48And man, Bentley captain, one of the leaders on your defense, one

31:51of the leaders for this team done.

31:54Andrews huge leader of this football team done.

31:59Duggar replaces Bentley as a captain.

32:02He's now done for at least a few weeks.

32:05Uh, is this a must win game against Miami with all the stuff on the field

32:09happening and now this team losing some of its soul over the past couple of weeks?

32:15Yeah, I just think, yes, I is, is this game against the dolphins a must win?

32:19Yes.

32:20I mean, I, I don't, I think that the only other team out there that's, um, in more

32:25disarray than the Patriots, um, it's the dolphins and, um, you know, people talk

32:33about things moving fast and NFL dolphins fans are completely disillusioned with

32:37Mike McDaniel, they think he's, uh, he thinks he's Oz behind the curtain that

32:43it was like, you know, it was only because of Tua that Mike McDaniel was good.

32:48I mean, it's, it's rough.

32:50I mean, they got, they got killed by the Titans and Will Levis and Mason Rudolph

32:55or like they're terrible and they got killed at home.

32:59Um, yeah, this is a must win.

33:02I mean, to keep the, keep the program on track, at least for another week, you

33:06know, get some more, you know, buy-in from the team, they absolutely have to win this

33:12week if they lose this game, man, it's going to be rough next week.

33:17I also think it's time for Gerard Mayo to start drawing some lines regarding

33:20discipline, uh, God, Shaw Peppers talking on the radio, uh, the wide receivers,

33:26Romandre Stevenson should have been benched last week in my estimation, as

33:30soon as he fumbled that football, he should have been on the bench the rest of

33:33the game.

33:34It's time for Gerard to step up and start being a little bit more of a

33:37disciplinarian.

33:38So, uh, stop considering benching Romandre and just do it in the moment, Gerard,

33:43you know, that's a big part of being a coach on Sunday, making calls on Sunday,

33:48not looking back and going, oh, well, you know, it's Wednesday now, and maybe we

33:52should, maybe we should bench him this coming week.

33:54Like make the call in the moment, the guy fumbled again, it's time to make the move

33:59as, as great as Stevenson is, you know, in theory, and as, as he's your best

34:03offensive player, he's fumbling every week.

34:06And it's not a pop Douglas situation where Chubb makes a great play running

34:10from behind and it's Douglas's first fumble as a rookie.

34:13This is a guy who you just gave an extension to, uh, who has been a human

34:17fumbling machine through the first four weeks, make the call, bench him, send a

34:22message, Gerard, I don't need you to be, uh, you know, constantly walking around

34:28like you got a hair across your ass, like Belichick, but you, you know, it's

34:31probably a good idea to try to come to come to meet in the middle a little bit

34:35here and, you know, settle the guys down because it's, it's a month into the

34:40season.

34:40It's a bit much.

34:42All right.

34:42Before we get to the Patriots offense, we're going to do quick offense

34:45defense against San Francisco.

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35:56So offensively, we already went through a reset stuff.

35:59Let's talk about AVP, uh, schematically.

36:02What are your major beefs with Van Pelt Greg right now?

36:05Um, so my major beef with, um, Alex Van Pelt, um, let me just, you know, go through

36:13my notes, the Patriots present the opposing defenses, no schematic issues.

36:17They don't do anything challenging like motions, formations, no huddle, missile

36:23motions, we've seen a few orbit motions, um, which look pretty awkward.

36:28Like he's just like, I saw this on film as somebody else did.

36:32So I'm going to throw this out there for no reason.

36:35Uh, there's nothing thrown in to make the defense to say, Oh crap.

36:40They caught us on that.

36:41Like, how are we going to adjust in case they do it again?

36:44Very little more formation or motion issues, no stacks or bunches in empty.

36:49There's no problematic things that the Niners had to deal with,

36:53uh, you know, to illustrate this, the Patriots are 32nd in the

36:57league in motion at the snap.

37:00Pre-snap motion motion, like at the snap that you see a lot of these teams do,

37:05you know, with actual good offenses.

37:08They, they only Patriots only do that 8% of the time.

37:10The league average is 22%.

37:14And then, so there's that.

37:16And then there's the fact that look, you know, you're having trouble blocking.

37:23And I also put some of this on mail because I know a coach like, for example,

37:29bill Belichick, if he was having these issues, which the Patriots have had

37:33these issues in the past where they've had the Jordan Debbies.

37:37I remember going back.

37:38Cause I w I was curious how Josh McDaniels dealt with the,

37:42the Robert Sala offense.

37:43So I went back to Mack Jones's rookie year, the first matchup, and there

37:46was some guy 75 playing right tackle.

37:49I was like, who the hell was that?

37:50It was Yesir Durant and like Michael Wenu, who was a six round rookie.

37:56Um, in like the third or fourth game of the season is playing left guard.

37:59Yesir Durant's at right tackle.

38:01Like they've all had to deal with these things before.

38:05Maybe not to this extent.

38:06I'll give them that.

38:07This is a lot.

38:08Um, but I can tell you a coach like bill Belichick would go to Josh McDaniels,

38:14especially after say, Tom Brady got killed like 50% pressure rate or something like

38:19that, and bill Belichick would go to Josh and he's like, I, um, I understand

38:25we have issues.

38:26I said, he would say, we are going to run the ball and we're going to run the

38:31ball until they prove they can stop us.

38:33And also we are not getting our quarterback killed.

38:36That's the franchise Tom Brady right there.

38:39I don't care what you have to do.

38:40I don't care how many times you max protect.

38:42We are not getting our quarterback hit in the first quarter of this game.

38:47So figure it out.

38:48And Alex van Pelt, I'm sure Gerard Mayo is not telling him any of these things,

38:54but Alex van Pelt is not doing what he should.

38:57I don't look, I understand the talent level.

39:00And I know if, especially I hear from fans all the time, whether it's the

39:03Patriots defense bidding being 20, 27th and DVO way, or the offense being 29th

39:09and DVO way, everybody wants to make the injuries excuse.

39:12And I understand they have injury issues, but I'm not asking them to be 15th.

39:20I'm asking them to be 22nd.

39:22Like, and I'm sorry, I don't care where you think their talent level is.

39:28Like it's not that bad.

39:31And coaching should be able to bring it up a little bit more.

39:33And to me, I think coaching is bringing it down.

39:36Alex van Pelt is not doing a good enough job and he needs to figure it the F out.

39:42Let's jump to the defense.

39:43Uh, so Mayo, here's the other note I wanted to get to.

39:47He told the media today at his presser that he told players in a squad meeting

39:53that, uh, the defensive players are being selfish.

39:56So that would echo what Godshaw said and what Jabril pepper said.

40:00And, um, and what I, and what I said a week ago, but yes.

40:04And so, uh, obviously pass rush discipline is when we look at Keon white, the first

40:09drive of the San Francisco game loses contain like two or three times, uh,

40:14allowing big plays with Brock Purdy.

40:16After we talked about pass rush discipline being a problem.

40:20Uh, defensively though, along with the pass rush discipline, what, like what's

40:24the biggest problem right now that you see from DeMarcus Covington's unit?

40:30Oh, uh, what I see is that they're, they are playing, they were, they are relying

40:34way too much on zone coverage early in games.

40:36Um, I think I, I, when I was looking at this the other day, I think they were in

40:40zone coverage in the first quarter against the Niners 78% of the time.

40:46And a lot of times it's in cover to sometimes Tampa to coverage where the

40:52middle linebacker, in this case, Tavai would be responsible for

40:56carrying, um, the seam up the middle.

40:59And that's just not his back.

41:01I mean, he's a good player, but being 20 yards down the

41:05field is, is not a good place.

41:07I think what I don't understand about what DeMarcus Covington's doing.

41:11And there's, there's obviously more and more films.

41:13So, I mean, I think Kyle Shanahan had a pretty good grasp at like, look

41:18in this certain situation.

41:20And it seemed like it was first down a lot of the time.

41:22He's like, we have a pretty good chance that we're going to get covered too.

41:26And here's our cover two beaters on fleek and, and you brought pretty,

41:30just flick the ball out there, just throw it out there.

41:33And I think what I would really like to see them do is I think they need to, um,

41:39I think they need to get back to their man to man roots.

41:41I mean, we understood the situation last year, um, where Christian

41:46Gonzalez went out early, they had no Jonathan Jones, no Marcus Jones.

41:49All those guys are back and they're all, you know, good players.

41:53Right.

41:54And that should be a strength you should look at.

41:57And this is similar to the offense.

41:59Like these coaches should be like, all right, well, what do we do?

42:01Well, and let's do more of that.

42:02Well, you know, when, when Gonzalez, when you, when you, when they marry

42:08up pressure and coverage, um, it looks pretty good.

42:12Like the coverage is good down the field.

42:14I think they just, they need to go more man to man and, and five-man

42:19rush and not just blitz, you know, mix things up like that.

42:22They need to be a little bit more aggressive, especially early in games.

42:25I just don't think, uh, there's, there's enough, enough aggressiveness.

42:29They're, they're not causing enough turnover worthy plays.

42:31And I think the bringing, um, better pressure designer pressures, um, from

42:37the second level and marrying that with man coverage, um, I think that's the way

42:42to go with them and I don't think they've done it enough, there's just an overall

42:47lack of aggression from this team.

42:49I feel like, you know, zone coverage being played too much, not trusting

42:54Christian Gonzalez to try to just shut down the best receiver and shadow him

42:58and play a man and just say, he's our, one of our best defensive players.

43:01If he gets beat once, Oh, freaking well, we're going to, we're going to just roll

43:05with him and if he can shut down some of the field, awesome, they just, you know,

43:10they didn't have them shadow anybody this past weekend in San Francisco.

43:13So they've kind of gone away from that.

43:15Lean into it.

43:16Gonzalez is one of your best players.

43:18Um, you know,

43:20one thing on that, Nick, I just want to say real quick, you know, uh, watching

43:23San Francisco the week before against the Rams and you always want to watch

43:26them against divisional teams that know them really well and especially

43:30McVeigh knows Shanahan so well.

43:33Like the Rams played a lot of man to man coverage against the 49ers.

43:36I mean, they, they were, I forget who it was.

43:39I think it was number 27 for them on the Rams.

43:41I don't even know who was a cornerback, but he jammed the crap out of Brandon.

43:45I, you call game and Brandon, I, you didn't do anything.

43:48And you know, yeah, Juwan Jennings won there, won his matchup and

43:53had a big game against the Rams.

43:54But they, a lot of those were like circus catches.

43:57Like they really, it was a high degree of difficulty in the Rams ended up, you

44:01know, winning at the end of the day and coming back and, you know, to me, I don't

44:05know why DeMarcus Covington didn't look at that and say, you know what, let's,

44:09let's go, um, you know, yeah, they'd have to figure out Debo because that was a

44:13little bit of surprise that he was, he was active for this game, but let's go.

44:17Jonathan Jones, get in Brandon.

44:18I use kitchen for Christian Gonzalez on Juwan Jennings and we'll figure the rest

44:23out and, and dare them to make plays.

44:26And they, they didn't do that enough at all in that game.

44:30It's, it's just mind-blowing.

44:32Some of the stuff that's happening from a coaching standpoint, and I know it's a

44:36young coaching staff as far as experience in their specific positions, but you have

44:41to be better than, than what we have seen.

44:43And that goes for both sides of the ball.

44:46Shout out to Jeremy Springer, whose special teams unit has

44:48actually been really damn good.

44:50He's the only coach.

44:50She's the only coordinator getting something out of his guys consistently.

44:54What the hell is going on here?

44:55And, and, you know, what could be even more frustrating, Greg, is

45:00when you look at the numbers, uh, Andrew Callahan had this when Patriots played

45:05man coverage, uh, you know, Purdy went two of nine for 22 yards.

45:11He did have a touchdown against single coverage, but two of nine for 22

45:14yards against man coverage, and you played zone like way too much.

45:20And AVP, the first fourth down call.

45:24What in the bleeping hell was that you overload the right side of the

45:28offensive line and you run behind your tight ends and wide receiver.

45:32What are we doing?

45:34And, and, and let alone the, uh, the crack blocks would tackle on Thornton.

45:38Um, yeah.

45:39Oh, great.

45:40I'm having your toss.

45:41Great job, Alex.

45:43Uh, and I'll also say this.

45:46It's tough when you sit down and watch a football game and within the first five

45:50minutes of the game, you want to throw something through your television.

45:53And I reached that moment against San Francisco when Gerard Mayo from the San

45:57Francisco 41 yard line decided to punt on a fourth and three double digit underdog

46:04on the road, your offense has been averaging like 13 points a game.

46:08You're actually moving the football.

46:10You know, your defense has not been playing great.

46:13You know, San Francisco is going to be able to move the ball against you

46:16because they do it against everybody.

46:18And you're on the 41 yard line, fourth and three, and you punt the ball away.

46:23What are you telling your team in that moment?

46:25You might as well just look at everybody and say, yes, I am

46:27pissing down my leg, everybody.

46:29Why don't you just join me?

46:31That that's what that was.

46:33I mean, let me add one more thing to that.

46:36What about with like a minute 30 before halftime, San Francisco's

46:40they fumble the exchange between Purdy and Mason and they have to jump on it.

46:46It's third and 15 with about one 30 left.

46:50Does Mayo take a timeout and be like, Oh, we have an opportunity now to, you know,

46:55steal a touchdown before halftime.

46:57Get it, get, you know, get back in this game.

46:59No, it lets the ball go.

47:01It lets the clock go down.

47:02San Francisco lets it go all the way down.

47:04Takes the time out.

47:04They punt the Patriots, get the ball at the 15th minute.

47:07Takes the time out.

47:08They punt the Patriots, get the ball at the 50 yard line and they only get a

47:1363 yard field goal out of it.

47:15Like, you know, this is, it's those decisions, the fourth and one call, like

47:20you talked about where it's, you know, Caden Wallace is on one side and you have

47:23two tight ends and a wide receiver on the other, nobody needs to cover on that side

47:28because it's Caden Wallace, so they can overload like it's these decisions.

47:34It's the coaching decisions that we've talked about.

47:36Why, why, like, I'm sorry, just using the injury excuse or they

47:41don't have enough players.

47:42It's, it's not good enough.

47:44It's letting the coaches off the hook.

47:46And I completely agree with you, Nick.

47:49It's ridiculous.

47:51Absolutely freaking ridiculous.

47:53But the fourth down decision sent me over the, yep.

47:58You're totally right over the top.

48:01Like, and this is about, you know, I don't think we're

48:02talking about Mayo enough.

48:04I don't think Mayo gets talked about.

48:05He gets, he gets a pass, but you know, as a head coach responsibility, it's your

48:10responsibility to communicate to the team and to the players.

48:13And this was what Belichick was the best at and why the

48:16Patriots were so consistent.

48:17Belichick knew exactly.

48:19This is the way we need to win this game.

48:22And, you know, in this circumstance now, look later Belichick, maybe he

48:26wouldn't have done that because I had a lot of criticisms about the way he

48:30coached in the last couple of years and how conservative he was on fourth down.

48:34But you got to know going to San Francisco and you're a little bit

48:38undermanned and they're better.

48:40And, you know, maybe you catch them a little bit in a fog from their

48:44hangover, from the loss to the Rams.

48:46Like I know they're, let's also say San Francisco did not play great in that game,

48:51but you got to know Gerard Mayo has got to go to Alex Van Pelt and he's got to be like,

48:55look, and the team be like, we are going out there and we are punching them in the

48:59mouth, or at least we're going to go down trying, you know, if we move the ball, we

49:04get into their territory.

49:06We are going for every fourth and less than five around midfield or there.

49:10We are going to be aggressive.

49:12We are going out there.

49:13We're going to land the first punch, see if that stuns them a little bit, but you

49:18don't fourth and three freaking pun.

49:21I mean, at least if you're going to do something, kick the field goal and get

49:23some points, but the pun at that point.

49:27Yeah.

49:27Ridiculous.

49:28Yeah.

49:28And if you trust your field goal kicker at the end of halftime, and I know it's the

49:32end of halftime, so San Francisco is not getting the football, but if you have

49:35decided that Joey Sly can knock it down from 63, 64 yards, then why don't you try

49:40the field goal there, which would have been about 58 to 60 yards instead of

49:44punting, at least that would have been a somewhat aggressive option.

49:50I hate when I get angry, but they leave me no choice.

49:53This is your fault, Gerard Mayo.

49:54I want to be a happy man in life.

49:56I want, I want to enjoy Sundays.

49:58I want to come onto this podcast and enjoy the conversations like we did the

50:02first week against Cincinnati and, and, and Greg's right about Belichick.

50:06I I'm like a broken record on this before 2012 Belichick was one of the

50:11most aggressive coaches on fourth down post 2012, even with Tom Brady, he was

50:17captain conservative and I hammered him about that the last four years of his

50:21tenure here, especially, and on this podcast, I hammered Belichick so many

50:26times about stuff like that.

50:27And I said before the season, I hope to God, I'm praying to the football

50:31gods that Gerard Mayo will be more aggressive than Belichick was in his

50:34last 10 to 12 years.

50:36And when we're looking at a fourth and short fourth and three, fourth, you

50:39know, fourth and four, and you're at the 50 or you're on the plus side of the

50:43field, you're, you're at the, you're at the plus 41 and you punt, are you

50:49watching football?

50:50Do you, are you watching where football is heading?

50:54Everybody and their mother is going for it on fourth down and short.

50:57People are going for it.

50:58I saw Buffalo the other night.

51:00I think it was Buffalo.

51:02It's like a fourth and one from their own 35 and they went for it.

51:05What are we doing?

51:07And they got it.

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51:29All right.

51:29Three up three down Greg.

51:31Uh, yeah.

51:32So, um, real quick, uh, I'm going with, uh, Jabril peppers who was a

51:39bad-ass in that game.

51:40I love that guy.

51:41Check out the video that I tweeted out about his play, um, his hustle and

51:47pursuit on the next to last play of the game when the 49ers are about to take a

51:51knee.

51:52I mean, that's, that's a captain.

51:55That's a player.

51:56They, while other guys are stomping around and playing selfish, there's

52:01Jabril peppers like busting his ass until the final play of the game.

52:05Like some of that real peppers.

52:07Uh, Devon Godchow was really good in this game.

52:11Um, you know, he has these games spotlight games where all of a

52:16sudden, like he's a beast.

52:17Um, he, I guess he knows certain people are watching.

52:20Um, but this was one of those games.

52:22I thought he was really good inside and I will give my third one to Antonio Gibson.

52:28Uh, I thought he was really good in this game.

52:30I'm down.

52:32Oh, I forgot.

52:33Uh, when I wrote this, I didn't even everybody else.

52:37Uh, but anyways, uh, Jacoby Brissett, number one.

52:39Um, I thought he was, um, terrible in this game.

52:43He did have four plus plays.

52:44Um, you know, a few good throws against pressure, but, uh, I had him, I

52:49charged him with two sacks and another one and a half pressures for holding onto

52:54the ball.

52:54Um, didn't see the field very well and Demontre Jacobs and city.

52:59So, um, they were rough on the left side of the line.

53:04That'll do it.

53:06But Hey, hopefully it'll get better because Greg and I get to a preview, this

53:09very exciting dolphins Patriots game coming up on Sunday, which is, uh, certainly

53:13going to be a fireworks display for everybody who's going to be at Gillette.

53:17It's going to be, uh, what's the overrunner on that one?

53:1945 and a half for 48.

53:21I actually, I want to say it's 35.

53:24It's too high.

53:25Overrun.

53:25It should be like overrun.

53:27It should be 16 for this game.

53:28You know, the Patriots are only favored by one at home against the dolphins.

53:32Like I have, I have my thoughts already on this game.

53:34I hear a lot of people sitting there.

53:36I have a lot of people that I've, I've been listening to and watching, tell me

53:40how, you know, this, this should be a win for the Patriots and this should be, you

53:44know, how can they lose to this football team?

53:47I've got a lot of thoughts on that.

53:48We'll get to them later in the week.

53:49Everybody be well.

53:50Goodbye.

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