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After another lackluster passing game in the Patriots Week 2 loss against the Seattle Seahawks, who is most to blame for the struggles of the passing offense? Jacoby Brissett? The offensive line? The wide receivers? The coaches? Get insights from Greg Bedard on his Greg Bedard's Patriots Podcast w/ Nick Cattles, Mike Giardi on the All 32 NFL Podcast, Alex Barth and Brian Hines on Patriots Beat, Taylor Kyles and Mike Kadlick on Patriots Daily, and Andrew Callahan on Pats Interference.  0:00-4:28: Greg Bedard 4:28-7:18: Taylor Kyles and Mike Kadlick 7:18-10:23: Andrew Callahan 10:23-12:43: Alex Barth and Brian Hines 12:43-15:09: Mike Giardi   ************************************************ Patriots Content Brought to you by....  Prize Picks - https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/CLNS Download the app today and use Code CLNS at PrizePicks.com/CLNS & Get $50 instantly when you play $5!   Gametime - https://gametime.co Take the guesswork out of buying NFL tickets with Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code CLNS for $20 off your first purchase. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime! Merch Store - https://shop.clnsmedia.com  Social Media!!!!  Patriots Twitter- https://twitter.com/patriotsclns  Patriots Instagram-  https://www.instagram.com/patriotsclns/  Facebook- https://facebook.com/clnsmedia  LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/company/clnsmedia/about/  Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@clnsmedia *********************************************************  ABOUT PATRIOTS COVERAGE ON CLNS:   Welcome to the CLNS Media Network’s YouTube channel for New England Patriots  football.  CLNS Media is the leading online provider of audio/video coverage for the 6X Super Bowl Champions.  Get complete inside access to the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro and everywhere on the road. CLNS Patriots credentialed insiders Greg Bedard, Andrew Callahan, Tayler Kyles, John Zannis, Alex Barth and Mike Kadlick provide instantaneous news and analysis all in real time, as well as full access to complete videos from the players, coaches, ownership and everyone else inside Patriots Place.  If you enjoy CLNS’ Celtics  All Access and are craving more Boston sports content, you head over to CLNS’ Patriots  Press Pass at   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqX7G3pEDTseNxtoDU27PEg?sub_confirmations=1   __________________________________________________________________________  For Celtics Content:    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmp3kivpOg3lzoJC7yV7VjQ?sub_confirmations=1   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmp3kivpOg3lzoJC7yV7VjQ?sub_confirmations=1    Celtics Twitter - https://twitter.com/CelticsCLNS   Celtics Instagram - https://instagram.com/celticsCLNS  Twitter Main- - https://twitter.com/clnsmediaCLNS  Main Instagram - https://instagram.com/clnsmedia *******************************************************

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00:00But let's talk about the quarterback because that's the one guy we haven't really dove deep into

00:04Jacoby Brissette, I think he continues to be okay. Nothing special

00:09But really greg in in my estimation, he's been as good as you could expect him to be

00:15Given who he is and given the circumstances he's dealing with do you agree?

00:20Yeah, I do. Um

00:22You know, I I mean especially like in some of the the sacks that he's avoided. I mean, um

00:29You know that one was that it was that at the end of the game, um

00:32And where he it looked like he was almost going to go down for safety

00:36And you know, he's dancing around and he gets the ball out. Um,

00:40you know, I

00:42I had him for

00:44um

00:46I had him for five plus throws in this game and four of them were against pressure. Um

00:52You know now I did have him for

00:55The two pressures allowed he had a throw

00:57That rollout to jaylen polk, for example, um and everybody probably remembers it it's it's a rollout to the right

01:05um

01:06Brissette has polks open

01:08Or as open as you're going to get in the nfl and jacoby missed him and he should have made the throw now

01:16There are you know more circumstances to that if you go back and you watch the film

01:21Kj osborne is blocking the end and he does it for about 0.5 seconds and then he just stands there

01:27he literally

01:28turns around

01:30Tries to put his butt on the defender and all of a sudden the guy takes off and he's in jacoby's face

01:35And he makes that throw much harder than it needed to be now. I still don't

01:40Uh absolve jacoby. He still should have made the throw an nfl quarterback should make that throw

01:45But it's just like the little attention to details on something like that like aren't happening. But I I think

01:52Nick I think what we've seen so far through two weeks nick is about what we expected now, I will say

02:01I think jacoby brissette in terms of like not taking sacks. Like I said, um his decisiveness

02:07Um, not really holding the ball. Those were all things that have been uh,

02:11You know a staple of his play in the nfl to this point that gets him into a lot of trouble now

02:16he doesn't uh, you know, he's

02:19Been one of the most quarterback sacked quarterbacks in terms of rate

02:22Um since he came into the league and he's doing a great job of avoiding that and putting this team in the worst circumstances now

02:30we also knew sort of going into this that jacoby is what he is he

02:35He's not going to elevate

02:37anybody and you know, there's nothing wrong with that, but when you you know when you have a

02:43when you have a team that

02:46Uh does not protect well, um

02:50He's going to have issues when you have a team that their wide receivers don't win

02:56off of man coverage

02:58Um, i'm just i'm just looking because I had the stats. Um

03:04You know when they don't win off a man coverage like, you know

03:07Jacobi's not going to you know

03:09Make things happen out of thin air like some quarterbacks and now the hope is you got you have a guy in drake may

03:15Who's warming and getting ready and he'll eventually be that type of guy that can elevate that unit?

03:21I still wouldn't rush it. But like the patriots were

03:258 of 17 for 48 yards against man coverage man coverage is about talent

03:31um, the the the seahawks conversely were

03:3611 of 17 for 107 yards and seven passing first downs

03:41Against man coverage and the patriots were 8 of 17 for 48 yards. They were 6 of 8 for 72 yards against zone

03:48I'm guessing that was probably mostly

03:50uh hunter henry early on in the game before the the seahawks got

03:55Played more and more man coverage as the game went on and that's sort of where you saw the passing offense

04:01really disappear

04:02because

04:03You know really man beating man coverage is about talent

04:08Uh among the receivers and tight ends and what have you it's not really about scheme

04:12It's just man beating man zone is more about

04:16scheme

04:17Beating the coverage and you know what we see so far is the patriots

04:22Aren't good enough on the outside to beat man coverage and that's going to continue to be an issue

04:28It's really if that passing offense can possibly turn around given the personnel limitations they have and taylor

04:33Sorry to jump in there, but this isn't a new problem. I mean you knew this problem

04:38Yeah, and I mean, I know we like to use vaderian low as the lightning rod here

04:41But frankly, I didn't notice him in a bad way very often

04:44I noticed mike and when you get beat two or three times pretty badly

04:47So I know we like to talk about all the you know

04:50The other ways that the tackles they brought and haven't worked out

04:52But in when you didn't have a great game either that sack that you're talking about for jacoby

04:55Brissett, I don't understand why he's getting crap for taking that because laden robinson got beat inside

05:00Wow, and when you got beat there was nowhere for jacoby to go

05:03So I think it's less on one guy just tackle everybody needs to play better

05:07Like I said, michael

05:08Jordan is responsible for a sack laden robinson is responsible for a sack mike and when you got beat enough times that you're saying

05:14Oh, like I was like man

05:15It would got to be nice if you had the option to put chooks out there

05:18On the right side where he is comfortable

05:20So I mean the reality is it is the nfl

05:23Most people have issues on the offensive line because it's a position of attrition

05:27Not a lot of units make it through the entire season without losing somebody crucial

05:31Obviously the patriots started behind the eight ball because they already had tackle problems

05:34But the best case scenario for this unit was vaderian low just being fine

05:38Then in the interior you have city

05:40So in laden robinson building week to week and giving you a good pocket

05:43And then if you have to have mike and when he would tackle as long as he survives, you're fine

05:47I thought everybody contributed to this performance and another reason why you need to get pop more involved because you can get the ball out

05:53of your

05:54quarterback's hands and let the receivers do some of the work so that the offensive line isn't being put in a bad position where like

05:59One of the refs that um, I think it was michael jordan lost a sec

06:02He gave up one one-on-one and I put in my game plan

06:04You cannot let leonard williams get a one-on-one matchup

06:07But to do that you had to stay out of obvious passing situations the seahawks used to rush

06:12Front created a one-on-one with one of the best interior defensive linemen in the league against the guy who's frankly right now on the patriots

06:18Practice squad really smart by seattle, but there's so many things to go into that

06:22But schematically you need to give your tackles and your offensive line a bit more help

06:25And I wish they had done that on early downs by trying to get more by just getting the ball 100

06:29There are there are times where you can scheme around a poor offensive line play, right?

06:33There was a time where you look to me. You're like nobody's covering pop right now

06:36There's a 5 10 10 yard cushion right there grab the football and throw it to him and see what happens

06:42He's your best offensive player have rpo's like they're running them. They're just not throwing the screen

06:46So I just don't understand why you won't even try and do something like that again the three targets across

06:50Uh two games for him is inexcusable and same with like jalen polk

06:53I thought he looked good to start the day the touchdown on the five yard, uh that five-yard interrupt obviously

06:57But then nothing after that. It's like the receivers are the problem. I obviously, uh, the offensive line is problem, too

07:04But you can scheme yourself out of that and they just almost haven't tried to do it yet

07:07They continue to drop to call me back make him try and make these reads those guys aren't getting open downfield

07:11So he either has to make something out of nothing dump it to a tight end dump it to a white, uh running back, etc

07:16It just it doesn't look right right now

07:18You do not just get to blame alex van pelt or the pass protection

07:21Which was dreadful, uh, or even jacoby preset it goes to the receivers, too. The seahawks

07:27increased their man coverage rate

07:30Late in the game around the second quarter. They said, okay, cool. You know what we're gonna do

07:33We're gonna load the box. We're gonna play man coverage against man coverage. The patriots averaged three yards per play

07:40Against zone coverage was five and a half

07:43As the old saying goes when it comes to receivers coaches get them open against zone

07:48When it's man to man

07:49It's up to you

07:50So to me when I watched this film the mario douglas had the only case for what the hell is going on a case

07:55He's now taken publicly by the way speaking in the locker room today to our guy doug guide among others saying

08:01Uh, yeah last year. I felt like I could prove myself this year. Nah, not so much

08:06speaking though of jacoby percent in the past game

08:09I

08:10I should know better than to do this after week two because I knew this was coming as soon as the patriots lose

08:16As soon as the offense tumbles

08:18Uh, you're gonna have folks out there clamoring for drake may we're gonna do it. Anyway, i'm breezing through this yellow light

08:25Okay, because here's the deal

08:27I know how it goes offense struggles team loses. That's the quarterback

08:32by the coach

08:34Okay, no one's firing. Gerard man

08:35So, of course you want to start the top three pick for jacoby percet who only had god

08:40I don't know what they're in here like 149 passing yards, right?

08:43Here's the problem with that. I have a question for you

08:46Do you want drake may behind an offensive line that has been blitzed all of six times

08:51in two games and allowed pressure on 45

08:56Of those drop backs all drop backs

08:59Seems hazardous to me

09:01And you can say oh drake may would escape better and he would throw long and you know what?

09:04Yeah, he probably would throw a little bit longer. This dude is a gunslinger

09:07We saw it in north carolina the good plays the bad plays. He's gonna chuck it

09:11But for two weeks would he rank 10th in qbr

09:14Which is a refined version of passer rating that actually accounts for fumbles and scrambles in game situation

09:19Unlike pass rating would he rank 10th in success rate?

09:22Which means how how well are you doing as a quarterback keeping your offense on schedule?

09:26Would he even be 15th in epa per play because jacoby percet is?

09:31jacoby percet right now

09:33Is walking the same path mac jones did to his utter demise in new england

09:37Getting overloaded with pressure in weeks one and week two going to play the jets in week three

09:41We all know what happened to dallas a week for last year in new orleans after that mac lost his mind

09:45Okay, jacoby percet is not losing his mind right now. He's keeping the whole offense together

09:50And I get that when you watch him take three sacks like he did on sunday. You think it's his fault when in reality

09:57He's doing an unbelievable job of taking bad situations and not making them worse because

10:03In the 28 times he's been hit or hurt

10:06He has been sacked just four times

10:08that 14 percent

10:10pressure to sack rate

10:13again

10:14When it's bad, how quickly does it go worse for jacoby percet?

10:16It's just 14 percent is among the best in the entire league and it would be in any kind of season

10:21It's a freaking miracle. I understand why people are um, maybe uh annoyed with jacoba said at this point. I think he is being

10:30Uh, he is being pretty conservative and and that's definitely a part of it

10:34But right now, I mean they just they don't have time for anything to develop

10:37They they don't have time for anything to develop in the passing game, especially on third down

10:41When they need some of these bigger plays, I think it was

10:43So they they they had 15 third downs in this game

10:47They threw on 11 of them

10:50seven of them

10:51seven of those 11

10:53Percent was pressured more than half of their pressures came on third down

10:57And I think it was three of the seven. It was three or four of the seven. So about half

11:02Were multiple

11:04Pressures what I mean is like multiple linemen lost and and bursette was under pressure for multiple spots

11:10so

11:12That to me is where it starts and and we can talk about percet and we can talk about the wide receivers and i'm not

11:17Saying there's nothing to discuss there

11:19And I know I sound like a broken record because I feel like i've been giving this take for three years

11:23And I know you guys get annoyed at me for giving it because you want to complain that they have no receivers

11:27And you want to complain that they don't have a star quarterback and I get that I understand that

11:32But none of that matters if you don't have time for these plays to develop

11:36How are you going to throw a 40-yard bomb if the receiver doesn't have time to run 40 yards down the field, right?

11:43And that to me is where pop douglas comes in because what this offense is screaming for all right

11:48So you can't throw the ball downfield. How are you going to create explosive plays in the passing game?

11:52Get the ball in the hands of guys that can create after the catch and turn a five-yard air pass

11:56Into a 20-25 yard game. That is pop douglas

12:00And they should be able to design some quick hitting stuff to him

12:04Or at least move him up in the progressions

12:06We were talking about this yesterday in the locker room brian

12:08Like looking at how often is he jacoby bursette's first or second read it doesn't look like it that much the pressure

12:14It just got way too much at the end of the game and that was even

12:18You know mike and winnow who's your highest paid offensive lineman who's supposed to be one of your rocks

12:23You know up front like he had some challenges like on the last two drives. He was getting beat almost every play. It seemed like

12:31um

12:32so maybe that goes back to our conversation like is he better a guard than a tackle but

12:36the offensive line

12:38was definitely the biggest weak link and now

12:41All five of them are on the injury report now pictures still can't get their wide receivers involved

12:45And while they threw the ball a lot more in the first half

12:48They ended up with three catches on six targets to their wide receivers for 19 yards

12:53That is on alex van pelt and that offense and look there's offensive line issues that I detailed again

12:57I had them down for 15 pressures on 33 drop backs, which is again an absurd number last week

13:03I had them at 48 percent that I believe is 45 percent. That's not sustainable

13:07You could tell as the second half went on jacoby bursette went from looking down the field to looking at the rush

13:13He still bailed them out a bunch of times either not taking the sack by you know

13:16Sort of scrambling and throwing the ball away or even in a couple cases making plays off the scramble

13:22But that's not his game and that's what they're forced them to do and then i'll give you another one

13:27Really bad clock management before the end of the half

13:30They had the ball pinned inside their own 20 and they saw caught betwixt in between like do we want to?

13:36try to throw the ball here, or do we want to just run the clock out and

13:40Seattle wisely and I I was critical of them. I'm like use the time out here

13:43They're they're they're not in any hurry. You're going to get the ball back while they save their time outs

13:47the patriots end up throwing some incomplete passes and then

13:50Seattle goes right down the field kicks a field goal right before the half

13:54It was a three-point game

13:55I know three points in overtime

13:57But they just they gift them three points by not being totally sure of how they wanted to handle that

14:01so to me a lot of issues

14:04came to roost for the patriots that

14:07We talked about in week one

14:09The margin for error for this team with a roster that is devoid of blue chippers

14:13uh that is devoid of

14:15Um explosive skill players their their their longest play yesterday will was a tight end screen

14:21Well their longest pass play was a tight end screen to hunter henry

14:24The ball was thrown four yards behind the line of scrimmage. They just caught him in the right call

14:28henry

14:29storms down the sidelines doesn't have to make any moves like that's

14:33That's the extent of their explosives in the passing game

14:35Like they are so challenged that if it doesn't go, right

14:39Uh, if they make one little mistake or two mistakes

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