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00:00Here we go. Another episode of the All 32 podcast. Mike Giardi alongside Will Parkinson

00:17as always. Week 17. It's here. It's all happening. It is all happening. Reminder of this show

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00:29time, best tickets, best prices to get you see any event you want to see. A lot of games to get

00:34to and a couple of games that we have to rehash from Christmas Day. Netflix pre post game halftime

00:41shows, not so great, but they didn't actually, you know, the streaming thing actually worked.

00:44There wasn't too much buffering. I did get confused on the second game because I went to,

00:48I went, I went to Denormal TV. When I came back to it, it was like kickoff in 22 minutes. I'm like,

00:53no, kickoff is supposed to be now. And it was the play now button. I'm like, where did this come

00:57from? What are we doing? So you really just aged yourself there. It took me like three minutes to

01:03figure out like they didn't delay the game yet. You just hit fast forward and you're going to be

01:07there. So the biggest topic of conversation on Christmas dinner, besides us joking about

01:13Leo crop dusting the pod last episode, what was RG3's ring? We've been trying, I cannot figure

01:20it out. I did a full Twitter search. I talked to like six people, six of like our mutual friends

01:26in the, in the industry. No one knows what that ring is from. It's the biggest ring I've ever seen.

01:31Yeah. It's not a Superbowl ring. Is it like a high school class ring? Like what is it?

01:37Did he just buy a ring? Like I wouldn't put it past them. I got to say. So like I said,

01:43I was not a big fan of the pre post. Like I just, you're putting, putting all these people

01:47together. Yeah. But, but, um, when you have to try as hard as RG3 is to, um, say something cool.

01:57And like he was doing the walk and talk and he was trying to be funny and like say, and I'm just

02:01like, you know, dude, just give me the frigging, can you give me the meat and potatoes? You're a

02:04quarterback. You played in the league. Like I shouldn't have to depend on Mina Kimes and God

02:09bless Mina Kimes for like researching and doing our homework. But like, I shouldn't have to depend

02:13on Mina Kimes to give me, you know, some sort of X's and O's type thing. You're the quarterback

02:19for God's sake. You're on the set. Cause you played with Lamar and what are we doing here?

02:23Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, bitching about that, but let's, uh, let's get to those two

02:28Christmas day games because the chiefs beat the Steelers 29 to 10. They're now 15 and one. They

02:35are the number one seed that is locked in, uh, in the AFC and to me, and this has started to brew

02:42maybe three or four weeks ago, but now with the addition of Hollywood Brown, the last couple of

02:47games, it feels like all of a sudden, once again, the chiefs are not that they weren't figuring it

02:54out before they were winning close games, 10, one score games. But it's like the offense that has

02:59really had to sort of 10, 12 play drives and everything had been so drawn out. And like,

03:04you had to be so perfect. And Pat, in a lot of cases was able to be perfect, especially late

03:08in games. It feels like now it's opening up for them in a way that it hasn't in a couple of years.

03:14And you go, here we go again, Kansas city chiefs rounding into the proper form as we head into

03:20January and February. Yeah. I feel like one of two passes coming for the chiefs. We're either

03:26talking about a three Pete, but first one, I don't know. It's going to be, I mean, incredible

03:32they pull that off. Right. Or I think we're talking about like 2011 Packers, 2010 Patriots

03:39level of like 16 and one 15 and one, you know, obviously it was, I think Patriots are 14 and two

03:44in 2010 and then Packers 15 and one in 11 and like just losing the divisional round. And you're like,

03:50what just happened? Like, I just, I don't feel like they're, you think they're going to get like,

03:55I know they're getting better and stuff. And like, it does feel like every week it's a few

04:00calls here, a few calls there. Other they're Mike. It's very interesting. The chiefs are a

04:05little bit, I know they're not similar to those Patriots teams in a lot of ways, either, you know,

04:09either end of the dynasties, but they are in a lot of ways that they don't beat themselves.

04:13They just, they really don't. They don't. I know we can, everyone can play about the

04:16refs and we all do it. And yeah, I'm sure that is a factor in some games, but like

04:20the best player on the planet, they have probably the best coach on the planet and they don't beat

04:25themselves and other teams make the stupid turnovers. Other teams cost themselves with

04:30the stupid, you know, penalties or, you know, not controlling their emotions or they have the

04:36missed assignment, not the chiefs. And it feels like as talented as they are, they're just such

04:40a sound football team, even like even Sunday, right? George Pickens doesn't run his route hard

04:45at all. He's, he allows, you know, Jordan Reed to, sorry, Eric Reed to, you know, not have to,

04:51not have to respect that. And he's able to kind of cut across and I mean,

04:55rush shouldn't have thrown the ball anyways, but it doesn't matter. The point is

04:58the Steelers made a team who usually doesn't make mistakes, was making a lot of mistakes.

05:02And it's just, you know, you know, even, you know, some of the fumbles firing with,

05:07by the end of the half, you know, it was eight fumble. It's just, they don't beat themselves

05:11and it makes it so much harder to be a team where not only do you have to be perfect,

05:16I know, and we can joke with the refs and the whole thing, and you have to, you know,

05:19you have to be, you know, beat them as well, but you have to beat the best player in the

05:22sport and not make mistakes. And it's just, it's really hard to do. And again, I think

05:28we talked about it last week of Hayes, you know, the Bills, the Ravens, who's,

05:32who's the favorite in the AFC. And I, I think the Chiefs are the favorite until they're not

05:36as much as this was one of their better performances. I will say, I thought

05:40they came ready to play and I thought Pittsburgh is very much spiraling. And a lot of the guys

05:46who were overachieving for a large majority of the year have kind of turned back into pumpkins

05:50a little bit. Specifically, Russ has started to be a little Denver. Denver, Denver Broncos,

05:56Russ, yeah. Seattle, yeah. Yeah. And that's, it's, it's getting late early for them. I know

06:04it's late in the year, but you got my point. Yeah. I think the comparison to the Patriots

06:10when they were at the height of their dynasty, both at the beginning and at the end is apt.

06:16And fair that those Patriot teams weren't always the most talented teams. They did have the best

06:21quarterback just as Kansas city has the best quarterback, but they got into all those situations

06:26where I actually heard Devin McCourty talking about this on a, on a podcast.

06:30By the way, that was the best part of the Netflix. Just say like, Hey, here's the McCourty brothers.

06:34They know each other. So let's let them talk. Just let them go. Yeah. He was all with Chris

06:38Sims. I think it was in the Sunday night pod that they do every Sunday night, the unbuttoned pod.

06:43And he was like, you know, there was a period of time with not even a period of time when we had

06:48Tom, you know, didn't always go your way. You're you, you know, you're not playing your best game.

06:52They might not be playing offensively. He might not be great, but we just kept saying to ourselves

06:56all the time, just stay in it, hang around, hang around, keep playing, keep playing.

07:01And then the next thing you know, he goes, there's two minutes left. It's a, you know,

07:05it's a one score game. We've got the ball and he's moving it down the field. And you're like, man,

07:09we weren't good today. And yet we fought enough to put ourselves in position where that guy will

07:15go make the play nine out of 10 times. And that's what Patrick's doing now. But to my point about

07:20the Hollywood Brown edition, I think Xavier Worthy starting was starting to come on before

07:26Brown was reinserted in a lot of two games ago, but now that he's there,

07:30plan a lot more 11 personnel. And now they have, it's not just one speed guy on the field. Now

07:35they have two speed guys on the field. Now all of a sudden, Justin Watson, who is like the sneaky

07:39fast guy, but not when he's supposed to be the fast guy, he's getting over the top of the defense.

07:44He's making big plays. Brown's still sort of rounding into form himself. Like obviously

07:48hadn't played all season, got hurt in the first play of the preseason, but he looks pretty good.

07:53And Worthy is becoming a seven, eight, nine catch guy per game. And they're finding creative ways to

07:58do it. He's not having to run the crosser over the middle of the field when you've got to have it.

08:02It's, you know, stops and it's quick wide receiver screens or, and they're still doing

08:06stuff with him in the run game. And it just, their offense is starting to expand and it's

08:10starting to get old. It's look, Pat Travis, Kelsey's never going to be the Travis Kelsey was

08:16two or three years ago, but he's still good enough. And now you're putting all these pieces

08:19around them and they're starting to get going. And it's like, well, now he becomes dangerous

08:23even more so than before. Like it, it just feels like I've seen this movie before.

08:28And while they're not as dominant as they've been, they're playing really good football and

08:33it feels like they're getting better at the absolute right time. So not for nothing to

08:37shout ourselves out here. We talked about, should my homes play those two, the two games in six days,

08:42because we said, if they win, they clinch it. And now two weeks off for the start. I mean,

08:47I don't know. We'll see what they, how do they approach, you know, week 18, but it feels like

08:51maybe even they go a quarter or a half, get them some reps and get like a preseason game almost

08:54and get them out of there. Cause Andy places guys are in the preseason. It worked out exactly

09:00how they wanted Pat, obviously it was way healthier than, you know, shocker than, than we,

09:05you know, then, then they let on, which is fine. And they do that and they're smart and it,

09:10it works to their advantage and it gives, you know, gets other teams kind of let their guard

09:13down a little bit. And it's like, Oh, Pat's fun. And he's a tough dude. It's not that incredibly

09:18tough, but you know, now they get, they really get those two victories, whether, even if you

09:23rest your guys now it's two weeks off as opposed to a month off. And, you know, you can maybe

09:28eliminate some of that doomsday scenario. I mentioned of the 10 Patriots, the 11, you know,

09:33Packers and other teams that are, you know, basically win every game all year coasting.

09:38And then that break, it's like hard to get back up. And you just, you wonder, Hey, they play them,

09:42maybe they play them a quarter or a half against Denver. And if you know, you're in the game,

09:46maybe you let it keep going. And if it's, Hey, the Broncos are playing for their playoff lives,

09:51they're rolling, maybe, you know, you say, Hey, you know, let's, let's back it off here.

09:55Carson Wentz. I don't know. Maybe, maybe they just go, they blanket go, Hey, when's this going

09:59to go the whole game? I don't know. We haven't been, you know, obviously we'll find out, you

10:03know, it's next week starts, but they put themselves in a much better scenario to get rest,

10:07but not the dreaded too much rest in football. You know, and we have talked about that pitchers

10:12and, you know, and these teams where it's sometimes it, it does backfire. And the way

10:16they're playing right now, I actually think they probably want to like, keep going. It's like

10:19Kelsey starting to like get some of his, you know, his legs under him homes is comfortable

10:23with some of these other weapons now as well. Yeah. Yeah. They become a very dangerous team.

10:27You mentioned the Steelers and sort of, sort of falling apart for them. I don't know if you caught

10:32some of the quotes in the post game, 10 guys on defense, doing the right thing. And one guy,

10:39not a lot of people feel like this is a Minka Fitzpatrick thing. And when you talk about the

10:44guys that are saying the same things, Cam Hayward, TJ, why you're talking about the best players,

10:48make us the other best player, make us not seemingly involved in this. And maybe Minka

10:52is doing a little too much freelancing, but whatever there, there was a ceiling to that

10:58team all along. And I think you're seeing it and maybe the ceiling is now falling in on top of them.

11:06And they can be an easy one and done here in the post season.

11:09I, we talked before, I guess, right before the Raven Steelers game last weekend,

11:17you know, we were talking about who needs it more, who doesn't. We both mentioned like,

11:22at least I thought we mentioned that, you know, obviously again, the Steelers are still in

11:26control of their own destiny, would be able to win, you know, could win the division. And,

11:29you know, Baltimore was going to play two teams that, you know, they likely would play in the

11:32playoffs. Well, they totally took advantage of a really crucial two game stretch. And I felt like

11:39the Steelers became a team that that's the team you want to play in the playoffs, right? Like I,

11:45I want to play them in Houston. You know, I am, I'm like, if I'm in an AFC team, I'm like,

11:52oh boy, like how can we, you know, how can we figure out a way to, you know, get in,

11:57get in a scenario where, you know, we're, we're matched up in those teams. Just again,

12:02it's week by week. And so then if the NFL has always been like that, but, you know,

12:06in a lot of ways, like, look, I don't know if the Chargers can be able to catch the Steelers.

12:10We'll see, obviously they, you know, early, you know, we'll see if they're able to do it,

12:14you know, and even the Broncos, I guess, or whoever, but right now,

12:21Houston-Pittsburgh will be an extremely unwatchable game on, you know, on wildcard

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13:13end the program. Let's go to the other Christmas day game that was an absolute

13:18bloodbath. The Ravens stomped the Texans 31 to two. You know, it's bad for the other team when,

13:26when, you know, Derek Henry got tackled for the, for the safety and like the offensive guys are

13:30apologizing to the Baltimore defense saying you should have had a shutout. We screwed it up for

13:34you. Um, but they, they absolutely, uh, just hogtied battered bruised. I mean, it was just an

13:42idiot. Would you not argue that losing 31 to is worse than losing 31? Nothing. Yes. The two is

13:48just, there's something it's so it's like, yeah, it's like, so just disrespect. And especially for

13:54a team. And look, we've been on this about how their offense and CJ has not been the same. And

13:58Bobby Sloak is, uh, I mean, just, they seriously have to make a decision about him, whether they

14:04want to proceed with him going forward. And again, this was the guy who last year was,

14:08you know, serious candidate to get a head coaching job. And now he could be on his way out

14:13after year two was the OC, but that team is just a hot mess. They can't protect on the interior.

14:20They're having the same problems with the stumps, which was illustrated on the broadcast, which we

14:23talked about last week, like just the same things are happening to them over and over and over

14:28again. There was also a good thread on social media this week about, well, you know, like a

14:32lot of people are pointing serious fingers at Stroud and they're like, uh, have you noticed

14:38the receivers are all in the same place on a bunch of these plays? And that's just not the way it's

14:41drawn up. So what's happening there. It just seems like a, uh, a full-on breakdown there.

14:46And as you mentioned, like the Steelers, they're a team that I think anybody would be really excited

14:51to play. So I don't want to talk about them anymore. Cause we talked about them. I want to

14:54talk about the Ravens who last week pulled me back in and I said it and you're like, Oh, I don't know

14:58this schedule. And now again, not that the Texans are playing great, but that was like, I talk about

15:05the, the, the chiefs and they're often starting to round into form. I think that the Baltimore

15:09offense has been the best offense in football this year and they can do it so many different

15:15ways to you. You know, it's, it's Derek Henry, it's Lamar. And it's like, Oh, well, no, we're

15:19relying on Henry and Henry and Henry. And then Lamar takes a drive and he's just like, no,

15:23I'm going to remind you what I'm capable of. They're doing things that they did on the Greg

15:27Roman offense. They're doing the, the Monk and stuff. They're just, they have so much stuff

15:30there for a defense to plan for and try to stop. And they are so capable of beating you in so many

15:36different ways that they're going to be a handful in January for sure. Yeah. I just want to touch

15:41one quick thing on the Stroud thing. Has he been bad this year? No, not at all. And I still think

15:46Stroud's a promising player, but I will say obviously, you know, pretty much the same amount

15:52of starts as last year's 15 last year, 16 this year, obviously the injury, you know, touchdowns

15:57are down. Interceptions are way up. We know that obviously completion percentage down, you know,

16:02yardage is down. The attempts are way more, um, you know, things like, you know, yards per

16:07completion, you know, yards and attempt Kibbe rating, Kibbe everything's like two ticks down

16:13or three ticks down. I, the one thing that I think is obviously we play out as the 52 sacks

16:19this year he's taken versus last year, took 38, you know, he's thrown for 50 less yards a game.

16:25I'd say there's stark differences. I think there's a lot to play with that. I think there's

16:30maybe kind of maybe a little too ambitiously anointed Stroud. People were like, hesitant

16:35with Jordan love, but like, and even, even myself, I was like, oh man, it was really an eight game

16:40stretch. And then I was like, well, so was Stroud again, then the last place schedule

16:44and the easiest division of football. Like, did we maybe jumped the gun a little bit

16:49and just slow plays him a blame, the offensive line, the deployment, everyone plays a role here,

16:54but Stroud certainly puts the ball in harm's way more this year. Then I thought he was going to be

16:59long-term a little bit more like last year, it wasn't high touchdown numbers, but very low

17:04turnovers made the big plays and things like that this year. It's like, this team can't really

17:11be as effective if they're going to turn the football over once, twice a game on offense

17:14like that. So should rely heavily on Joe Mixon if they want to try to win a playoff game,

17:20in my opinion, just to kind of reset things. A lot of Nico, a lot of Joe Mixon, everybody else

17:24can kind of can roll as much. I love Robert Woods. One of my favorite all-time players.

17:31He's 33 now and like on a sixth ACL. From a Ravens perspective,

17:38them and Buffalo, I think in a lot of ways, they're different teams and I understand that

17:44like they're different, you know, Buffalo fans, Ravens fans are at it right now because of the

17:48MVP stuff. But in a lot of ways, the stuff that scares you at Buffalo is very similar to stuff

17:53that scares you at Baltimore is that their unicorn quarterback at any given moment can

17:59pretty much beat you by themselves. And I don't think the Chiefs, if they have their way with it,

18:05like Baltimore, Buffalo, you know, the Bengals get in and, you know, beat Buffalo in round one.

18:12And, you know, the Ravens slip up against, you know, the Chargers or something in round one.

18:15And it's like, hey, those are the two teams we just absolutely do not want to play. And it's

18:19not that the Chiefs are scared of either of these teams. It's that Lamar is playing at such a

18:24ridiculous level that last year, the MVP stuff, no one wanted to win the MVP last year. It was like

18:31one of the worst MVP years I can remember, where it's like, yeah, really, I guess Lamar's the MVP

18:36by default. They're the one, you know, they're the one seed, like sure. And he was really good last

18:40year, but he was more like risk averse last year. It didn't feel like he didn't feel like he had the

18:45same pep in his step. At least he said it. He said he called himself fat, right? He came in

18:50having lost weight. Yeah. And frankly, based on Lamar standards, he came in and was not in

18:55full shape. This year, it's like, it's the running, it's getting back to he's impossible

19:01to bring down in the pocket again. I think we talked about it on opening night, opening night,

19:06Mike, where you said, I can't believe how much Lamar ran and was like, like taking shots,

19:12like against the Chiefs. Like he was like, like a different mentality this year. And the passing

19:16is unbelievable. They have obviously a ton of weapons to even seeing guys like Rashad Bateman,

19:21who, you know, look, I think me and you both like coming out of the draft and he's struggled

19:24with injuries. I just don't feel like he's ever gotten anywhere close to the player. I think

19:27either of us thought he'd be, but if he's going to be a contributor, you know, and we're talking

19:31about obviously Andrews and likely, and, you know, they still have the Derek Henry factor

19:35and they felt like there's a lot of there, but like, again, I'm not diminishing that,

19:40but the defense is playing way better, which is obviously helpful. The Kyle Hamilton numbers,

19:45you brought them up on a Monday show. They're outrageous. Like now that he's back safety,

19:49they're actually a good defense again. And again, Lamar's playing at such a high level that if he

19:55even plays 85, 90% of that in the playoffs, I just, they're scary. I got, again, I probably

20:01wouldn't pick them against Kansas city and I'd have a really tough time. The Buffalo thing. I

20:07go back and forth. They smoked Buffalo, but I also think Buffalo is playing really well right now.

20:11It depends where the game would be. And we can do the whole, that whole thing. Those teams to me

20:16just feel like it's the quarterback, the chiefs. We talked about it, the Ravens and the bills do

20:21beat themselves at times more than the chiefs do. But man, the way Lamar is playing, I probably

20:28would vote for him for MVP. I know people get tired and it's the LeBron thing. It's, you know,

20:34but I do feel like a little like Josh Allen winning is a little out Jose Altuve 2017 winning

20:38where he was deserving, but it was a lot of like, this guy's deserved the MVP. That's kind of his

20:43time, et cetera, where like judge was a rookie. And I know it's a different thing, but like judge

20:48was every metric. It's like Lamar is way more touchdowns, way more yards, you know, everything,

20:53every stat favors Lamar. And now if they're going to win the division, it's kind of hard to argue

20:59before it was like, Hey, they're the five seat. They're struggling a little bit, but more beat

21:02them head to head. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where you go with that. But I think

21:05those two guys, they're going to have to like, you know, go for stats. Yeah. I'd say the best

21:11argument for Josh. I mean, again, we're talking about both of them having outstanding years,

21:16right? So creations of awesome year. The best argument for Josh would be, well, look who he's

21:24playing with versus look who, I think we would all look at the Ravens offense, especially don't

21:29forget the narrative going into the year. Buffalo is going to take a step back. There's no way

21:33they're going to be as good offensively. They're putting more on Josh because they don't have

21:36digs. Then, you know, what did they do? Yeah. They brought in Coleman, but he's still, he's not a big

21:40separator. It's got jump ball. Guy's a rookie. Like it's not going to be the same. And he's

21:45leading receivers clear Shakir, who I love as a player. He's not a number one by a million,

21:52they have a million twos. Yeah, exactly. And he's been able to elevate that group and take the

21:57narrative of, they're going to take a step back and shove it in everybody's face. It's just hard

22:01when you look at the, like, you know, I'm sure people that listen to the show and I'm sure you've

22:04done it, you know, you go on, you know, football pro football reference and you do the stat head,

22:08you know, comparison, you know, pretty vert, you know, Josh's record is better, but

22:13the completion percentage is like a five point difference. Passing yards. Lamar hasn't bought

22:16like 500, you know, touchdowns. He got on my 13 passing touchdowns with less picks. He's got 300

22:22more rushing cards. It's just like, yeah, it's hard. It's like hard. But I also, if Josh wins,

22:26I wouldn't be like, wow, that's a fraud MVP. Like, I don't view it as that at all. I do think

22:33that similar, I guess what Lamar did, a lot of Lamar's game on Christmas day was very similar

22:39to a lot of the Josh primetime games this year, where like, even the numbers aren't like outstanding

22:43by any means, but like he makes two or three, like, wow, plays in primetime and you're like,

22:47damn. And, you know, so I don't know. If I had to rank it today, Mike, I would,

22:53the top five MVP stuff for me would be Allen and Lamar one, two, in whatever order. I'm not

22:58going to make my decision on who I would have theoretically voted for the end of the year.

23:02I think Burrow probably would be three for me. I'd have Sam four. If the Vikings are the one scene,

23:07why is he, you know, little fence, like, why is he getting it? His numbers are better than

23:11Josh Allen's. Like, you know, it's, I know he has KOC and Jefferson stuff, but, and then Saquon,

23:17he would be in and get a top five. You know, he'd still be a top five finisher with the way things

23:22have kind of gone about. Yeah. All of it. I mean, honestly, like in any year, like they would

23:27all be deserving candidates to the type of year they're having Barkley over 2000 scrimmage yards.

23:33It's been awesome. And I could see him having some big numbers this weekend as they roll with

23:38it. It looks like Kenny Pickett is going to be their starting quarterback. We're talking about

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24:30download game time today. What time is it? It is game time. Well, we were talking about Sam Darnall.

24:36Let's get to what is to me, the game of the weekend. I'm fired up for it. 11 and four Packers

24:43at the 13 and two Vikings. Crazy that two teams with this record, same division, neither one of

24:49them in first place in division because of the Lions, obviously also at 13 and two, but with

24:54the tiebreaker. However, the number one seed still available for Minnesota. It's not over yet.

25:01Beat the Packers and then the season finale in Detroit, which could be for the whole marbles

25:07of the division and the number one overall seed. Green Bay playing outstanding football,

25:14as is Minnesota. At this point, Minnesota is 18 row. Green Bay, I think, is the team that we thought

25:19they were going to be at the beginning of the year. Had some some hiccups at various points

25:22and Jordan Love kind of took a little while to round back into form after the injuries,

25:26but he's playing well again. I look at this two matchups, Sam Darnall versus Jeff Halfley's

25:33defense, which has been surprisingly good. Although again, they have a lot of talent

25:37on that side of the ball. They just harness it with Joe Barry and it's Jordan Love and what he's

25:41capable of doing against Brian Flores. Turn the ball over a bunch against them in their first

25:45meeting again. Love was playing with the MCL but. Struggled, so now you got that on tape.

25:52How does Flores attack him? How do you? How do you view this one?

25:55Muted on you man. God, four years in this thing. I can't figure it out.

26:02This is a statement gave from Minnesota to me. I think Green Bay is a team that people view as a

26:07bigger contender than Minnesota just because a lot of you know look dirty little secret here for

26:12you know behind the four. People like when their takes are right and yes, most people had Green Bay

26:17as a Super Bowl contender. They didn't. They had Minnesota as a Super Bowl contender.

26:22They didn't. They had Minnesota as a fringe playoff team at best, and obviously it is what it is right so.

26:28Minnesota and for all intents and purposes, I know the game got really close at the end.

26:32I mean they stomped the dog piss out of them in green and it was 20. There's 20 nothing before

26:38they blinked in in Lambeau, right? Like Sam Darnold led Vikings and they end up holding on and love.

26:44Put up a Brett Favre stat line in that game, which was objective like four touchdowns, three picks,

26:48400 yards. It's awesome. It's pure pure far from the in the late 90s. We have MVP's thrown 28 picks so.

26:56If Minnesota wins this game, you have to. I know they've been kind of every week. We talk a little

27:01bit more and more and more about them. Yes, start to seriously be like dude.

27:06There's a real shot. They could go to the Super Bowl because Detroit's obviously extremely banged

27:11up. You know, I think 16. I don't know if this that was corrected. There's 16 players who have

27:16started games for them on IR. Minnesota feels like if they get the ones here, I talked a couple

27:24players in Minnesota locker room and they were like that home field advantage we have is is legit.

27:30Like it's it's serious and again, no offense. They host the Giants a couple years ago in a

27:36playoff game and Kirk Cousins threw a four yard out route on 4th and 8th, right? But

27:41that that's a very different Vikings team and they go and they beat Green Bay here again.

27:48Two against Green Bay. They obviously sub Chicago. They lost a heartbreaker to Detroit.

27:53I'm talking about the best division of football. They're at worst going to be four and two

27:57like at some point we have to kind of start being like.

28:01Why why not Minnesota? If Detroit's that banged up and Philly's got the hurts issues now with

28:06the concussion and mixed with, you know, an epic choke job against Washington and like they're not

28:11going to be the one seed now and the whole thing we have to start and like someone's going to come

28:15into Detroit or Minnesota likely. You have to start at least thinking like why not them? I'm

28:22not saying they're they're not going to be the favorite and I'm not saying they should be. I'm

28:25just saying. Let's start at least having we have to start having some of this conversation. If

28:30you're Green Bay, you go to win this game, you're going. Hey, J Lo was banged up early in the year.

28:36Fluky game, we didn't come out ready to play.

28:39Kind of riding our, you know, riding a high of the Malik Willis win and.

28:44Minnesota is, you know, we can come into Minnesota and beat that beat this team who's who's riding

28:47high. I think if you're. I'd like to see kind of minute what Minnesota does from a schematic

28:53perspective. I wonder if Flores I know likes to be aggressive, right? We know he wants to

29:00be aggressive. He wants to send a lot of these linebackers on different blitzes and you know,

29:03Van Kinkle and Cashman. These other guys let them fly around.

29:07I would be curious if he tries to like go with the.

29:11Almost the approach of like Ben don't break in this game just to be like hey pick us apart for

29:18a 12 play drive over and over again and like we're going to wrap up and give up four or five yards

29:23apart, but we're not going to give up the big play to Watson or read or wicks or any of these guys

29:28like they're not and we're going to just Josh Jacobs is not going to beat us like you're going

29:32to have to dink and dunk your way to a win. That's how I would probably approach it because

29:36I think the Packers in this offense were like. They just they kill you with Jacobs Jacobs boom

29:42deep shot like demoralizing like you can ever and then if you're Minnesota and if you're green

29:47Bay against Minnesota. You gotta get Donald's tuck. You know his internal clock sped up early

29:52on in the game. That's the one way you still could beat Sam is like if you get him kind of

29:57getting a little happy feet just a little bit. He's gotten rid of most of it, right? He really

30:01has, but we saw a little bit in the Jets game against Chicago the second time with the offensive

30:06line didn't play well. He just wasn't as productive in the Jacksonville game. So if I'm Minnesota,

30:12I would actually be not aggressive at all. I would be like I would challenge Jordan love

30:16and then if you're green Bay, I'd be extremely aggressive saying. We're going to get. I don't

30:21know what the deal is going to play or not. I feel like the Jetta stuff is yeah, so I don't know.

30:27I guess in long story short, I this is a. Minnesota wins this. We're having a serious

30:32conversation of like not only the one team, but like can you come out of this conference because

30:37as the one seed you probably should be. I think that yeah, you know, I think that this

30:42for both teams we have the conversation. If Green Bay can go into Minnesota and win the game.

30:47Not that I'm not taking. I've been taking Green Bay seriously.

30:51Then that says to me you can go to Detroit and you can beat Detroit. You can go to Philadelphia

30:55and be Philadelphia. You're capable of. You're right now and let me pose this question to you.

30:59Sure, I just talked for like 25 minutes. If I gave you the option of the entire NFC to come

31:05out of the NFC, you know to come out of the NFC. Anybody not in the NFC North or

31:10one of the North teams? Are you picking the North? I'm picking the North you too,

31:15yeah, right? Like it's kind of not hard and hard and from playing each other.

31:19And then you just look at the overall like between the coaches O'Connell and floors have

31:24been awesome this year. Halfly has made a difference for Green Bay defensively,

31:29and the floor I think has gotten better as a head coach, not just a play caller,

31:33which I think is sort of who he's been for the first three, four years.

31:35Three big time home field advantages in places you don't want to play.

31:40You know, Green Bay no longer has the.

31:43Like the Aaron Rodgers over here, but then Aaron seemed to play small at times and in some big

31:49moments later in his career in Green Bay. So like yeah, absolutely. And we know what Detroit,

31:53even with the injuries, the mentality that they bring in the aggressiveness they'll play with.

31:58I I almost wonder now that you've phrased that question to me.

32:03How would you rank him? I'd almost go. Whoever wins this game would be my one.

32:07Yeah, me too.

32:09And depending on the closeness of the game, whoever loses might be two and Detroit might be three.

32:14Just because of the amount of bodies they've lost and wondering can they do this for

32:20likely three games in a row? I don't. I don't know that they can.

32:23Yeah, I think I.

32:26It's hard to not. We've talked so much about Detroit all year,

32:30it's just it is hard to ignore. I mean, look, they again, they smoked Chicago last week, but.

32:35If they can get a little healthier, obviously that changes things, and I think I think if

32:39they can get the ones you don't buy this team that he needs to buy it more than anybody.

32:44But it's hard to not pick Minnesota and Green Bay because they're just

32:48again, look. Both these teams have weeks where you're like,

32:55but like I think I'll give runners a little credit. He talked about Minnesota this week

32:59and was like you can't even do that. Oh, they just like when they get up on teams

33:03like that's not even a thing right like this. Like they're coming back week after week and

33:07then they're also they can run it up on you. They just they always are going to have the

33:11best offensive player in the field no matter who they play and on defense.

33:16They have a top three coordinator, top five worst, and it's also really talented group.

33:23That's the thing that like. The one thing with Minnesota I don't think we talk enough about.

33:27We talk so much about Detroit and I mean and Green Bay. We talk both teams like the defenses.

33:31I feel like. At times we're like, oh, it's like just such a great team effort like dude.

33:36The Packers have like 8 first round picks of the 11 starters on defense and they the other guys

33:40that aren't like they just paid McKinney and like who is the second round like that teams really

33:46groups really talented and the group in Minnesota is really talented like.

33:50Bernard and cash in these guys. They brought in their front seven is excellent Gilmore thing.

33:55When that happened you were like this is a really nice move because if they're competitive

33:59they got a pretty reasonably priced cornerback two or one day one B and if he's bad they'll

34:05trade him and they end up being good and now it's like wow him and Murphy really solid group.

34:09Yeah, they're they're one issue with their secondary is can they if they get it can

34:15they play a ton of man? That's not the you know. Yeah, I don't know. That was that was

34:22Steph a few years ago. He's you know he's in his you know whatever mid 30s 33 whatever it is.

34:27He doesn't run like he used to. You know he's a defensive player of the year and 18 like a

34:30little different. Yeah, it's a it's a different time, but they're smart team too. So that's

34:36you can make with Harrison Smith and Steph Gilmore. They've seen everything in the right spot.

34:40Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I don't know. It's going to be a fun game. I'm fired up for it.

34:46I think it's the best game of the weekend person. Yeah, yeah, and I'm hoping it lives up to it

34:49because we've done a lot of like this is a game of the weekend and then we get to Monday.

34:55Yeah, 3431 awesome awesome game comes down the last two minutes.

35:00Yeah, let's roll with it. I like that. Let's go to the next one.

35:05Denver 9 and six but scuffling against Cincinnati is one three in a row seven and eight.

35:12This is a win it in situation with the Broncos and even if they don't win this one,

35:16they are in a win in situation again next week in week 18 when they play Kansas City.

35:21And as we talked about, we don't know whether Kansas City, how will they approach that?

35:25Having locked up the number one seed to the Bengals? It's winner go home. They can't lose

35:29and they need help. Part of the help they need is for Denver to lose the game so you can do this

35:35straight up head to head. They'd also need any Indianapolis to lose at least one more game over

35:39the final two weeks and Miami to lose at least one more game. But these things are not out of

35:44the realm of possibility with any of those football teams, especially with the way Cincinnati's

35:48playing. Deborah was frisky for awhile and it feels like. We thought there were a year ahead

35:56of schedule and I feel like that's how they've been playing here over the last three or four

36:00weeks like yes indeed what they did earlier credit to them awesome put themselves in position

36:06still probably going to get into the postseason but like the are you afraid of him no are they

36:12not the 2020-2021 pats oh yeah yeah started off strong had a nice little run where nine and

36:23four I want to say and then went one in three one and four and I was like oh max probably

36:30at best fine and he's like not ever gonna be bad although he's become bad because he thinks he's

36:35like Michael Vick but Richard yeah but like that year it was like hey Matt can make three or four

36:42throws a game that are needed and then the rest is very much like just you know like just don't

36:48make the mistakes and good you know really good defense really good defense mixed with like a

36:54couple playmakers that can can do things from time to time I'm not saying that Denver they're a year

37:01ahead but the problem is is I think we talked about this before the season like in a lot of

37:05ways this is also kind of their window in a weird way I'm not saying it's like a there won't be they

37:11can't be good going forward but like you got like this is last year Pat's you know rookie deal

37:17obviously and then you know he's got the extension kicking in and stuff like that but you know you

37:20have picks on the rookie deal but this is obviously a much more like I think a lower ceiling higher

37:25floor prospect and you see the ups and downs and he's made some throws this year that I didn't

37:29think he had in his bag it's also what's really bad at times and no one wants to talk about it

37:34because like a lot of people picked him for rookie of the year yeah I really want to see the Bengals

37:39win this game I'll be honest I'll be I want to see the Bengals in the playoffs in Buffalo and

37:43see an absolute just shoot out I think that'll be the most entertaining game that'd be a really

37:48entertaining game I'd like to see the best quarterbacks in the playoffs I know we're not

37:52supposed to say we're rooting for I just I'm objectively want to see Cincinnati at Buffalo

37:58round two you know of kind of a rematch of a couple years ago in Buffalo some snow and

38:04and the whole thing there's a lot they need a lot of help for sure but like I said I just it would

38:10be interesting to see if Cincinnati can really do this thing and if they don't you know hey they

38:13miss out by half a game you know in the standings Patriots game bills I mean sorry the Patriots

38:22team the Chiefs game early in the year the commanders game these games were like the

38:26Steelers game how did they lose these yep and it'll be interesting to see you know if that

38:32comes back to bite him because again burrow probably works his way to a top three MVP

38:36finish if he can get them in the playoffs because the numbers are absolutely outrageous yeah I'm

38:41with you I want I want to see burrow I want to see chase I want to see Higgins last ride if that's

38:45what it is you know in the postseason think about the possibilities as you mentioned with Buffalo

38:50think about the the cold sweats that will be induced for bills fans that entire week the

38:55mafia like hey they came in and then and look that was the damar hamlin's year and shortly

39:01thereafter you know that was a couple weeks after that that happened on the field against the same

39:06Bengals team so I thought I was covering that team at that point for NFL Network and I and I

39:12set it up to a bunch of people like they were tapped like emotionally physically that team

39:17was exhausted and I wasn't surprised that Cincinnati was able to come in and do what

39:21they did to him because I thought that team was they were lucky to get out of the first round

39:25against Miami and Skylar Thompson the week prior but that would just lead to all sorts of flashbacks

39:31in terms of like don't let Joe Burrow come here again when we're you know when we've sort of

39:37done things that you didn't expect us to do as a Bill's team and then have to face Joe and you

39:41know he's as cool and as cold as could possibly be and that would just be that would be fun that'd

39:46be a fun matchup so yes I am with you I'd like to see the Bengals get the job done all right

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40:51active it is quite delicious and delightful uh let's go to your boys the New York football jets

41:01who are in Buffalo this is it's still kind of a big game for Buffalo Buffalo wants to

41:06lock up the two seed and make sure that until they have to go to Kansas City they hope for

41:12the AFC championship game teams have to come through them so okay that's it we don't need to

41:19talk about the bills anymore for you and the jets I have two questions for you is there anything that

41:24can happen here over the final two weeks that can change your view maybe on certain players on this

41:30team bring them back don't bring them back and we've talked about Rogers but maybe some some

41:34other pieces um on this roster is there anything that can happen for you for the next two weeks

41:38that can sort of convince you that maybe somebody you were sitting on the fence on no no no he

41:43should come bring him back bring that guy back not really to be honest I think it's very dangerous to

41:49make those decisions in a in a vacuum like that um look I think the guys the jets should be back

41:54I've been vocal about I think you know maybe I don't think they'll be able to bring back DJ Reed

41:58but I would at least explore it right I think Morgan Moses Tyler Conklin some of these veterans

42:02that are you know high no higher floor guys I think you'd like to see them bring back I think

42:07Rogers and Devontae think you'd love to have Devontae back Rogers it's obviously TBD on a lot

42:11of different things his willingness to even want to play next year your ability um you know a million

42:20there's a million different things so no I think this is a this is a really bad spot for the jets

42:27and I this one came I have a feeling this might get kind of ugly um these teams don't like each

42:34other and the bills have been very vocal about how much they don't like the jets um Deon Dawkins

42:39you know has talked on every podcast imaginable about in every show in America and how much he

42:44doesn't like the jets Josh needs to stat pad for the MVP this is a Jets team that's you know I think

42:52pretty even really they've played hard in every game they have they got I give them credit they

42:56have not thrown in the towel but it's it's you can see the golf course from here uh so

43:04this either is going to be a close game you know 14 14 10 at halftime Rogers gets 500 and it's like

43:11oh this is a entertaining game or this is like 37 to 3 and it's like oh my god like this you know

43:18it's bad so yeah I this game I just I just feel like again with a lot of the just decisions

43:28it should be made over the course of the year and it yeah if Rogers looks good

43:32this week and looks good again next week it's okay man like there is a really big sample size

43:37of like a really nice stretch of play here where the stats look really good and the eye test was

43:41much better um but you know there's the the dead cap stuff there's his willingness to or wanting

43:47to play you don't want to force him on a head coach gm but at the same time he might be your

43:51best option so there's a lot there's a lot there I just think that it's really hard for like if you

43:57make a decision based on one week in the NFL or a couple weeks usually that's what's gets what's

44:03you know gets you a cardboard box and a and a pink slip let me hit you let me hit you with one more

44:08uh it was you know it's just I think just spitballing but Diana Rossini brought up the

44:15idea of Pete Carroll Pete Carroll your thoughts how would you feel if Pete Carroll and I'd be

44:21extremely happy I just just peek at a you know run run it back to 1994 style um you know uh I

44:29doubt it uh but yeah like Pete I I just talked about this on a different pod the biggest thing

44:38the Jets need everyone has it there's like hires are not all equal right like sometimes you need

44:43us you need the offensive mind sometimes you need the defensive mind sometimes you need the

44:46culture you guys sometimes whatever they're all different the Jets need a Vrabel Carroll you know

44:53there's a million other names you could probably list but the I'm going to come and make this an

44:57organization that's competitive every year respectable every year and is going to be

45:01getting back into the right spot I think you know Parcells ended up being very successful

45:05with the Jets but in a lot of ways it was like he reset who the Jets were for a long period like a

45:1015-year stretch where they were in the playoffs most years they were competitive every year they

45:15were you know running playoff games making AFC they made three AFC title games in 12 years and

45:20then they haven't been to the playoffs in 50 like part of it's you know Andy Reid came in and you

45:26know the Chiefs were already kind of you know Pioli and you know a lot of those guys were there um

45:31you know they kind of changed the culture there but the Chiefs were not always like the the marquee

45:35organization the Patriots same thing like you know another Pete Carroll another Pete Carroll team but

45:40you know I'd be open to Pete for sure he's like he'd be a shorter term option he makes more sense

45:46than Bill in the aspect that I don't think that it's going to be the Pete show over everybody

45:50else although at the end in Seattle it seems like he had a little bit more of a hand in personnel

45:53than he probably needed to at this point um but if he's coming in for hey three years I want to

45:59try to get lightning in a bottle here I'll help you reset we'll groom the coach and waiting you

46:03know for me when I'm done I don't know I'm open to it for sure I just wonder would he come back here

46:09kind of wasn't didn't go great uh obviously when uh when he was here the first time but he was a

46:14very different football coach in 1994 than he was that he is in 2024 interesting to me too from a

46:20lifestyle perspective he's been a west coast guy now for something years uh surfing doing all the

46:26things that he does like I do wonder but if if you got the bug and he clearly still has the bug

46:32then what are the options and I think the Chicago thing makes sense my only question would be like

46:40what is is that what's the best move for Caleb it's the best move for the organization probably

46:46because it's a proven guy and I think it is Pete want to deal with the president of football ops

46:51and a GM and waiting and an ownership group I think maybe but yeah that's why that job is a

46:57little bit of a weird job like yeah I know it's a good job but it's also not a good job at all yeah

47:03yeah yeah you got to be careful with how many people you're going to answer to uh last one

47:07last one Chargers at the Patriots uh it's winning in for LA um and they've had a little extra time

47:14off so it's a one o'clock game on Saturday we're taping this on Friday at 1 30 um so I think that

47:21the you know west coast east coast thing should be a little bit lessened on their

47:25behalf just because of the extra time they got to prepare for this game uh

47:30they know Gus Edwards JK Dobbins as of Friday right now is questionable for the game as he

47:37comes back from his knee injury they've struggled at times to run the ball they could definitely

47:42use Dobbins Dobbins has been there by far and away their best back um and certainly that's

47:47something that they want to do with Greg Roman for me and the Patriots that the way I look at this is

47:51the way I look at this is

47:55you gave a a reasonable performance against the playoff team in Buffalo last week and yeah there

48:02were three turnovers and three straight possessions that doomed you in the second

48:05half but 24 21 respectable we talked about what that meant for Mayo and the and the overall program

48:13but to me this reminds me of last year last year they beat the Bills at home week five week six I

48:19forget the the date Mack played really well they won late in the game touchdown pass Mack to Gusecki

48:25and it was like oh here they are they're back they have a chance and then I said I remember being on

48:33uh NBC Sports Boston like the day later or two days later and they said well what does it mean

48:37to you I go it means absolutely nothing if they can't repeat it the next week and I feel like

48:42and they didn't and I feel the exact same way about this one like if you go and say oh well

48:48at least we you know we have this one game that we played late in the year against the Bills and

48:52we gave them hell for for two quarters and then had the late touchdown to make it interesting at

48:56the end if you turn around and get beat by 17 points at home by the Chargers in a standalone

49:03game on a Saturday then I'm throwing out what you did against Buffalo because you weren't able to

49:09repeat that sort of thing like here's a window to build a little bit of momentum people can say that

49:14doesn't matter I do believe at the end of the year it does matter it matters when you're running

49:18back a lot of the same people yeah young team first year coach whatever like so yeah show me

49:24you can do that again and again I don't I'm not sitting here saying they have to win the game of

49:28course that would be nice that's the goal but like just be competitive with the playoff team again

49:33push them make it interesting play well enough that you make you say okay you've given me now

49:40back-to-back games against playoff teams this is something that you can work with as you head

49:45into the offseason a little hey guys what we're doing is actually starting to take root believe

49:50in it a little bit 100% agree competitive effort tough play hard get a couple Drake May moments and

49:59you feel good I think that's you lose this 24 20 and Drake May throws for two touchdowns he

50:05doesn't he breaks the interception streak he's it's very funny like Drake it's a weird comparison

50:12a little Trevor Lawrence rookie year ish from this aspect where like the eye test is like oh looks

50:19good the tape looks good somebody even the advanced analytics look pretty good and then the numbers

50:25are like they're not really actually that awesome like if you look at his stats you'll be like oh

50:30okay like yeah he's typical rookie year but like I feel like he pops a lot on tape so it'd be nice

50:37to see him play you know play a clean game or two here to finish the year just to you know hey can

50:44you get it to 17 touchdowns 11 picks or whatever it is and you know a couple maybe get in maybe

50:49we'll get one of the ends of running the football and you know again see it'd be a nice thing you

50:55can see a decent defensive performance again I thought they were good defensively last week and

50:59can Covington have a back-to-back weeks of decent performances that'd be nice because it seems like

51:04he'd be a guy who might be retained so him having a strong finish against some playoff teams would be

51:08would be good um and yeah I don't the Chargers have to win this game like this is a you cannot

51:15mess around here uh they've had a long you know it feels like a long break yeah just don't don't

51:21get embarrassed at home uh to finish the year I think it you know yeah and uh they played a lot

51:26of hard teams at home this year for sure it feels like a lot of playoff teams um or even

51:31French playoff teams this is a good this would be a nice year to just finish it out strong at home

51:37maybe competitive loss to keep yourself in the Travis Hunter you know race but at the same time

51:41not uh you know not be totally screwed you know with with some of the confidence going forward

51:47all right let's wrap this up with our prize picks I've got three for you uh I'm going to take

51:53Bo Nix against that Bengals defense for more than one and a half touchdown passes

51:59I'm going to take Drake May for more than a half a touchdown pass against the Chargers and

52:06my sneaky one Ladd McConkie less than 72 and a half yards receiving and I say that because

52:13I think Ladd McConkie who was there for the Patriots at 34 they swapped out with the Chargers

52:18to draft Jalen Polk pick up a fourth router which turned out to be Javon Baker those two guys have

52:2412 catches for 87 yards and those 12 catches are all Polk's whereas McConkie has 69 catches 960

52:32yards five touchdowns I think the Patriots understand and they do not want to have Ladd

52:38McConkie just add a little injury insult to injury yes insult to injury and go off on them

52:44in Foxborough so whether that means Christian Gonzalez slides inside at times they double

52:50him at times because quite frankly he's their best receiver if you want to take him away on third down

52:56I would totally understand that or with a healthy John Jones who uh struggled with his health early

53:01in the year but has been back the last couple weeks and looks really really good um that's

53:05the plan I just I think I think in their in their minds don't let Ladd go off just don't let it

53:11happen uh I'll go to a couple ones here Josh Allen more than 213 passing yards um like I said

53:18I think this one may get quite ugly Justin Herbert less than 32 and a half past attempts um I think

53:25they're gonna run the football a lot I think this game might be kind of kind of a drag to watch um

53:31great great I'm excited for it and lastly I'll go Saquon Barkley more than 111 rushing yards

53:37um I think with with no uh with no hurts this week it's going to be Saquon Saquon and more

53:43Saquon and try to get him some numbers uh to get his you know offensive player that you can to see

53:49even stronger so yeah more Saquon in terms of rushing yards less Herbert in terms of attempts

53:53and Josh Allen more passing yards to 213. That puts a wrap on this uh edition of the

53:58All 32 Pop. We'll be back Monday to uh look at the weekend that it was.

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