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00:00And and the callers right about you being ungrateful and I'll tell you why
00:04See for everybody laughs and how old I am
00:07What everybody laughs?
00:14Experiences that I've had and this is the ultimate don't you get it moment. All right
00:23How many dynasties have we had in the bay in our lifetime
00:27A's
00:28In the 70s they won three. Oh god, I even think of that. Okay, the Warriors
00:33currently
00:34the Niners with Montana rice and
00:39Baseball Evan you tell me I'm you just quick
00:45Niners into
00:48Giants into warriors. Okay, guys do count. Yep. Now. Here's here's where
00:53You need to grow up
00:56You all need to grow up and
01:00understand
01:02What's going on here
01:04The San Francisco 49. Well, I'll start with the A's
01:09The Oakland A's won three straight World Series ham
01:14The following year they lost in the ALCS
01:18Then 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
01:25They won three World Series
01:28They went to the playoffs twice in the next 12 years
01:33Okay, who's next the 49ers do it they won five Super Bowl number five
01:40After this five Super Bowls they went to the playoffs twice in 12 years
01:48Okay, the Giants
01:50They won three in five years
01:53They made the postseason twice since then and have not won a series and
02:00While people don't want to hear it the Golden State Warriors have won four titles
02:05They've now missed the playoffs three out of five years and it's possible
02:11They could be looking at a drought
02:14You can't sustain a dynasty. We've had four that we had three dynasties here
02:21They've all
02:23Culminated with a 10-year drought afterwards who's asking for a champion? There you go who you just said
02:30Can't be done. You said this team don't even have an everyday player. Nobody's asking for parade pal
02:36people are asking for promise and
02:38In potential. Yeah. Well, I'm telling you I get the
02:43the point of that exercise
02:44But it's the crack the cabinets are bare with San Francisco Giants with three or five for the Warriors
02:53One of them was a chip you're right one of them was a chip the point stands
03:00Quit saying there's a price to a dynasty if you don't believe it
03:05Because there is and we're still seeing it with the San Francisco Giants
03:10It's just the way it goes team was a long time ago, that's right in years ago, that's right
03:15And this is a whole different regime. Yeah, just like the Niners and you want a hundred and seven games, but you couldn't sustain
03:21Yeah, you needed baseball blue tube. Yeah, and you couldn't get it. So I
03:26It's almost like you're telling fans like relax. I am telling fans to relax to win you can't baseball
03:33president of baseball operations who's inept
03:35He shouldn't be fired, I don't care. No, it ain't about as you care. Should he be fired care if he gets fired?
03:41He should be fired
03:42His job, okay, if you say so, no, it ain't about if I say I'm telling you is everything that's happening with the Giants is
03:49The natural progression from a dynasty. Well, it doesn't take I call two years
03:55That's okay. Well, what you're saying took the job with no expectations in predicated on that premise of I'm sorry
04:03Predicated on that premise of I'm saying we used to be a dynasty. Our last one was 14
04:08We won't even judge you because we know we're just going through what Stony pointed out a natural evolution of a dynasty or are the
04:15Days after a dynasty. I'm just saying you guys out there that think you can just win every year
04:21You can't fans don't think that because they haven't you just pointed it out, right again
04:26I've pointed out three dynasties in the Bay. They've all ended up the same way
04:32Is that a coincidence? I don't think it is. I think after you have a dynasty
04:38You're gonna fall off. It's just a matter of for how long well, then I've been to three Super Bowls since that dynasty
04:47Twelve years so that that's where I do thing. You know what?
04:52Fans of every sport can jump in here at eight eight eight nine five seven nine five seven zero. We're having some fun. I mean
05:00It's it's hard for me to get incensed about the Giants because at the beginning of the year I was like
05:09Impressed huh, but for why was anybody impressed because Farhan was brought here Stony to replenish the farm system or
05:17The nuggets they had in the farm
05:19They would be you know going through their baseball puberty and and all people are asking is for them to compete
05:25But look at you at the beginning of this year and you're not by yourself
05:27You didn't even have any hope or expectation, but here's the thing and this is where I'm gonna get
05:32This is where I'm gonna get upset. All you want them to do is compete on Monday. They were competing according to you
05:39like so
05:40Three days does not change the team. It's like yeah, they've lost three in a row now
05:45They're a game under 500 by and large. This whole season is gone. It's it's who they've been if it culminates in a non-playoff berth
05:52It'll go and it'll be another which make a decision on Farhan. You know I mean listen
05:57I'm not saying fire him or not fire him, but I think like you know what they can see can we acknowledge that?
06:04The elephant in the know that the rat on the table. Okay is an elephant on the table. They can't sign free agents
06:11They can't write sign free agents this guy under Farhan
06:17Who did Sabian sign they had their homegrown player, so they weren't so codependent on going outside they had their stuff inside
06:25That's all and and study
06:27I don't have the guys get guys and gals get fired in jobs all the time when you get enough time
06:33To find out you know what it's just not working
06:36It's time for the next person to get a crack at it, and I think in year eight
06:40Which feels like you're 50 a Farhan it's time to give somebody else a crack at it
06:45And what's what the worst part of this to me is he's gonna come back cuz he is under contract
06:50He's gonna come back study the nine-to-five. It doesn't take ten years to recover from a dinosaur man
06:56Well, yes, it does in the Bay. I just gave you three examples of
07:02Dynasties followed by 10 to 12 year droughts or at least only two playoff appearances right those are facts
07:08But it doesn't make it right that that's what I'm okay the Giants win in 14
07:13With a group of the recipe is the same they win with a group of players in 14
07:20Everybody's attached to those players those players get re-signed till
07:252018 guess what they're over the hill in
07:282018 but that's what they that's what they did now at 18 or 20. What are you gonna?
07:34Do we got to change the direction of the team okay?
07:37Just changing the direction of the team does not guarantee. It's gonna work out well, so
07:42You you hung on to Posey and all those guys too long and
07:48That started the downfall and then you fired
07:53Bochy and
07:54Sabian and here comes Farhan and he's trying stuff
07:58And it doesn't work because sometimes it doesn't work right, but I can't I feel like you're asking fans to be blind to the fact
08:05I'll just use Luciano how they've dealt with Luciano not even being able to you know
08:11Decipher if he could play the field or go find a new position how they've handled him this year has nothing to do to me
08:17With the dynasty, okay, that's negligence and how they jerked around with Ramos now these two could be just average players
08:24But it's funny how you do it in the Bay
08:26but I think of the Atlanta Braves back when they had Smoltz Glavin and Avery and
08:31They have success, and then now they've won a World Series years later with a whole new cast of characters
08:38And we see it with the Yankees the Dodgers. We see it with the Spurs. You know it's like
08:44my whole point is what do the giant fans have to look forward to right now and
08:49Farhan has had ample time to at least you know have
08:54That answered and right now. It looks like Fitzgerald and Ramos and Fitz is I'd love it, but Stani
09:00I mean is he the real deal. I don't know
09:04but man, I think the Braves are a pretty good example because
09:08They've missed the playoffs nine times the last 35 years basically with a lot of difference
09:13it says that I mean they only won two World Series, but
09:16That's an organization that's found a way to remain competitive
09:19And I don't really recall too many big-name free agents that they've been able now. They've gotten guys through trades
09:26They've grown players internally, but it's not as if they've been massive players in free agency
09:32I mean their biggest freedom signing this last
09:35Couple offseason probably like Chris sale, but he's damaged goods when they got him, so I mean it isn't as if you can't be competitive
09:44Year in and year out
09:46Love it I
09:48Mean starting you started to show and you said it is what I feel
09:52How many position players do they have and I think you said one?
09:56yeah, somebody might call say two two and a half, but that's a problem and
10:01Farhan was sold to me as the smartest guy in the room
10:03I'm gonna do it and take what I stole there learn from the Dodgers who oh by the way
10:08I know it's LA Stoney. They've they've ran this whole decade
10:12I know they only got one bubble championship out of a World Series, but they know how to identify talent
10:20And you got me with the Barry Bonds
10:22And then I defaulted to Chili Davis a homegrown outfielder that can hit you 30 home runs
10:28I'm not asking for Babe Ruth well, but
10:31The the lack of power from an outfielder has way preceded Farhan's ID mm-hmm fair
10:40We guys don't want to come here to hit
10:43That's a big problem
10:46So if you can't you know it's like the thing I don't understand is
10:51You got to take what you've been dealt and try to win with it the Oklahoma City Thunder
10:56They're never gonna get free agents never
11:00Okay, so they made a decision as a franchise to stockpile young players, and now it's starting to pay off
11:07Does it mean it's a hit though? That's right. That's right
11:11so
11:12If you can't sign free agents you better have a great farm system. They don't
11:20Do we okay? Just I'll go back to who drafted Luciano. He was here before Farhan got here
11:26But I guess the opportunity is his fault
11:29Why wouldn't he be getting it bats because he's not good
11:32You know why because everybody thought he was better than he was beside his whole thing is he can swing the bat
11:37I'm not saying rockaroo my bottom line is if the Giants and again
11:42I don't know what's on the chalkboard in their clubhouse. He should be playing in the string out
11:47That's how you find out he plays the string out
11:50They lose they get five ten games under 500 how are the fans gonna react what?
12:00It looks like right it looks like it's headed that way with your current players on
12:06Thursday it didn't look like we were headed to it that way on Monday
12:11We just didn't but what does that do for the Luciano's future the fact that the the president of baseball ops said
12:18We made a trade so Stein he could play I'm not gonna stand up for the way
12:23They've handled Luciano, but I'm also not gonna be sitting here thinking hey Luciano is really good. No. He's not
12:29He's half a player. He can't field
12:33So there's a position for you to be half a player in the modern-day Major League Baseball, and that's called a da
12:38Okay, and then he's one of the worst D. H's in the league
12:42But wouldn't you want to know that I think we know it
12:45I just honestly believe we need to see more okay
12:51And that's just part of the SMI new part of it all
12:56You got two pitches here that might leave you or they might opt in but the bottom line is is not under your control
13:02And if the Giants still are are gonna be what they are Stiney and this thing gets ugly
13:07What you could and they could get it back, right? I mean you better
13:11Get somebody else to convince snail to stay here
13:14And if you're going to go down the rebuild or tear it down model. Why would you even want snail here?
13:21Why would you even want that on the books?
13:26Because he's one of the best pitchers in baseball when he's healthy I
13:31Don't know. I don't know. I just I mean to me. This is a
13:37This season's a rerun. Mm-hmm. They can't sign free agents and their farm systems not that good and
13:45That's been a problem now
13:47For what six eight ten years. I got snail and Chapman. Do you think that's just cuz I look
13:53Dig one inch beneath the surface and you realize why they got snail and Chapman
13:59they didn't get snail and Chapman like they would have wanted like they tried to get a Bryce Harper a
14:04Stanton any on Otani they got those two guys because they slipped through the cracks
14:10But the bottom line is they were yours that you you got to use their talent to try to get to your goal
14:16Second level talent. It's second level talent Blake Snell's, but only pitched half a year. He gets hurt
14:23You took those guys are not the free agents
14:26I'm talking about those guys were more of a risky proposition because they weren't signed early
14:31They had nowhere to go and the Giants
14:35Took a flyer on him and
14:38If they were they signed up the one-year deals with player outs
14:43See, that's the other thing. There are no Giants
14:46They don't have an identity. They don't have players who are here year in and year out
14:52And I think that starts in the front office and that's why I would make a change
14:57To me for maybe a man or whoever's Donnie they could sell the ballpark. They could sell the city. I
15:04Mean, what do you have to lose at this point?
15:06And I I know I'm not by myself because a lot of people thought he should have been ran
15:11But I think that one would hurt if after this season's over and I know I need to slow down
15:16It's not but somehow they don't make the playoffs and he comes back. It's like wow Farhan. Yeah
15:23I like there's no accountability would be the message. I would be getting from ownership. I
15:29Mean, I really listen fire him. Don't fire him
15:34If you fire him, then what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do with Bob Melvin?
15:39But at that point I think that becomes an easier
15:43Question to ask or answer probably, you know, cuz you got a direction that like you said they I don't know what they're doing
15:49I just really don't I
15:51Really don't Casey Schmitz Donnie not mad at the kid. It don't look like he has the goods
15:57Okay, I'm watching Brett wisely on a daily basis
16:00I'm watching Ramos not mad at him and Tyler Fitzgerald's taking advantage of an opportunity
16:05He's got pop, but I don't know if these are guys for the future or what?
16:10But man, you just talked about it one position player in your estimation
16:14And there are eight other positions seven other
16:18Why would a free agent want to come to the Giants?
16:22Just because you were once a preeminent organization doesn't mean you're always a preeminent organization
16:27The Warriors aren't gonna be the same organization in 2030 when Steph's not here
16:33But Sonny goes I feel like I'm talking to my old sales manager Darrell
16:37Why do they want to buy from you make them want to buy from you?
16:41So when you throw that question at me
16:44somebody's got to be able to have the
16:46You know the pizzazz the flair to convince somebody did want to be a part of the Giants and even tap into I know it's
16:52Been bad, but it's going to be better and you're gonna be a big part of that. It's get its mouthpiece
16:59It's lip service
17:02It's lip service
17:04This team what is this? What can this team sell?
17:08Wow
17:11No
17:12Like hitters don't want to come here
17:15What can we all agree on that?
17:18Hey, I'm not trying to raise your blood pressure and
17:22So layer came here Stiney, but just give me why did he come he came here cuz he had no other offers
17:29Okay, well if you're gonna do that
17:31Just I'm never gonna be right. That's right. The people that come here. They don't come here
17:37Came all the only reason he came is nobody was here
17:40Asking for an Otani a judge a Harper a bonds those guys aren't coming
17:45You've got to go get Soler and Chapman
17:51What like you answer to me why didn't judge come
17:55He's never was gonna leave New York. That's just why didn't Harper come
17:59Why didn't Stanton come right? I didn't know Tony. I give it to you
18:03They might all had different reasons
18:05But the the common denominator is they don't want to play for the Giants
18:10For whatever reason real quick here
18:12The same guy was part of the of the sales pitch to recruit those guys
18:17So is it a mile base by saying maybe it's the guy that was in front of them
18:22I love leading the the brigade in regard to the pitch. I love Brian Sabian
18:28He didn't sign free agents. But again, they were built different. That's right
18:33That's right, and that's where I get back to it, so that's why you guys don't far on it's too
18:38He's been here long enough to okay. The free agent thing is struck out far on you've been dealt a bad hand the ballpark
18:44what about the
18:45then we can go to the
18:47Minor league system. Yeah, and look what the Luciano has no there is no earth
18:53Yeah, I know you it looks bad that he just made that comment about the Soler trade and they wanted to see Luciano
19:00And he's gone