The Jeremy Kyle Show (18 Jan 2017)
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00:10On today's show, Judith invited me over for sex
00:13and within ten minutes I was at hers.
00:15He's got a chip on her!
00:20She pulled a DNA test from eBay and you went to McDonald's.
00:25You say that you never actually saw the result.
00:28You're a complete liar!
00:30This sort it out, look at you.
00:34How many men did you have unprotected sex with?
00:37There are in the frame, be honest.
00:39Are you jealous of his new bird?
00:41Hell no, she's a hippo!
00:43You're not having nothing to do with my daughter
00:45like you've been saying you want to be her stepmother
00:47and apparently you've got to do a better job than what I do.
00:54Two years with Sam, engaged for a year.
00:56And then out of the blue you found some messages
00:59on his Facebook page.
01:01Meet me then tomorrow whilst I'm at work.
01:05If you're sure where and when I can pay for a hotel.
01:11Since the start of your relationship with Kirsty
01:13have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else but Sam?
01:27CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:37Hello, my friends, good morning and as ever a big, big welcome to our show.
01:40Our first guest today, Matt, says that after a one-night stand
01:43with Judith 18 months ago he was slightly shocked
01:46to discover that she was pregnant.
01:48Claiming the kid was his, Matt says Judith told him
01:51she'd had a miscarriage but when he bumped into her on the street
01:54one day he discovered this had been a lie and she was still pregnant.
01:58Since then Judith has told him he's one out of a potential three fathers
02:02but now he thinks there could be a lot more.
02:04This guy says, today, Jez, I want the truth, I don't know the truth.
02:08Matt's on the Jeremy Carr Show.
02:10CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:17Nice to meet you.
02:19How are you, sir? Not too bad.
02:21All because the lady loved milk tray.
02:25Welcome to the show. You're 26, Judith's 26.
02:28It was a marriage made in heaven. No, it wasn't.
02:30It was a one-night stand. She was a mate.
02:32She was. I love this.
02:35We knew each other a while. She invited me over for sex.
02:38Yeah, pretty much. Just rang you up.
02:40Talking me through Facebook, giving me the egg on and that.
02:43The egg on? Oh, well, I hadn't had sex for a while.
02:46Sorry? I hadn't had sex for a while. How long?
02:48About a year, probably. Nothing wrong with that.
02:51No alcohol involved, nothing. No alcohol?
02:53Well, remember, we were laying in bed and we had a can of coke each.
02:57But she did that much for me. Judith invited... Was it...?
03:01What?!
03:03Judith invited me over for sex.
03:05I jumped on my bike and within ten minutes I was at hers.
03:08Yeah, pretty much.
03:12I beg your pardon? She didn't complain when you had his hair cut.
03:15You what? What did you just say?
03:18She made me do all the work, so it wasn't amazing.
03:21She just laid there like...
03:23Shut up!
03:25She lay there like what?
03:27A sack of spuds.
03:29It had been a while, so no protection.
03:31You didn't think it would be a good idea to have any protection, no?
03:34No, like, you get caught up in the moment.
03:36I know I'm not the only guy that's never used...
03:38No contraception in that.
03:40Contraception? Contraception, should I say.
03:42You can't even say it, that'll hurt.
03:44Now, it was literally that.
03:46You had very little contact after that.
03:48How did you discover that she was pregnant, Matt?
03:50Well, first of all, she said that she was pregnant,
03:53and then she lied and then she said she wasn't.
03:55Now, how soon after that one-night stand
03:57did you discover that she was pregnant?
03:59It was a good few months later.
04:01And what, she told you, you heard, what?
04:03First of all, she said that she was pregnant.
04:05Then she said she wasn't.
04:07Then she said she had a miscarriage,
04:09and I said, I'm really sorry to hear that.
04:11Then she said she had a miscarriage,
04:13and I said, I'm really sorry to hear that.
04:15Obviously, nobody wants to hear that,
04:17especially when you're a potential father, you could be.
04:19And then she said she was pregnant.
04:21Oh, God.
04:23But I couldn't be the father.
04:25How could I want to be the father,
04:27or be having any involvement in the child's life,
04:29when I don't know the facts?
04:31Be quiet!
04:33We're here because you kept having sex with more than one man.
04:35Be quiet!
04:37I liked it!
04:39You're in the pub with your mother, be respectful.
04:42I saw her one day after she told me she had a miscarriage
04:45and she had a massive bump.
04:47That must have made you angry.
04:49Very angry.
04:51Now, this is interesting.
04:53She bought a DNA test from eBay.
04:55And you went to McDonald's.
04:59She bought a DNA test from eBay.
05:01I took it with her.
05:03We did it at McDonald's.
05:05But you say that you never actually...
05:07You never actually saw the results.
05:09I went up to the men's toilet.
05:11I locked myself away privately, did the swab test.
05:13I had a couple of my friends upstairs.
05:15She thinks she used a swab of your friends.
05:17But why would I do that?
05:19Because I want to know if I'm the father for this long.
05:21How old is the child?
05:23Just over a year.
05:25She came back and told you the results were inconclusive.
05:27For the last year, have you had any involvement in that child's life?
05:29No.
05:31And why now?
05:33Oh, for God's sake, please.
05:35Take your turn. Again.
05:37Because she's messed me around so much, you know, to be honest with you.
05:39You go further.
05:41You say, not only if I'm the dad,
05:43do I want to be given the opportunity to provide...
05:45The other person you point the finger at
05:47is the mother.
05:49She said it's a bit rich.
05:51She was too busy getting blotto
05:53to teach her daughter lessons about safe sex
05:55and being a decent person.
05:57You know how many people are in the frame for this baby.
05:59How many others are there?
06:01She admitted to you what?
06:03I think two, apart from myself.
06:05She told us there were another three,
06:07all in the short space of time.
06:09And that's four.
06:11There are four potential fathers.
06:13Today, you want to find out.
06:15Do you want to be the father?
06:1750-50. If I'm the dad, I'm willing to step up to the plate.
06:19And if I'm not, I don't really want anything more to do with it.
06:21Who's Sarah?
06:23That's my partner.
06:25You're happy with Sarah. You would like Sarah to be involved.
06:27You don't think that makes her very happy.
06:29Judith says you're a fat, lazy druggie,
06:31you're an alcoholic, you'd be a rubbish dad
06:33and, frankly, you've got the smallest penis in the world.
06:35I'm just telling you what she says.
06:37So, Judith's on the Jeremy Cahill Show That Way, ladies and gentlemen.
06:39CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
06:45You're a liar!
06:47You're a complete liar!
06:49He's sorted it out. Look at you.
06:51Seriously.
06:53And Harry McDonald, really?
06:55Does he do a swab here and a swab there?
06:57Yeah, but at least I know I did it.
06:59I got one of my mates to do it.
07:01Ten minutes, I was upstairs. An hour.
07:03All right, then, it was an hour.
07:05In your fantasy world, you think it was an hour, that's fine.
07:07I was there for ten minutes, I did it properly,
07:09put it back in the envelope, you tried to accuse me
07:11of getting one of my mates to do it, let's see what the test is.
07:13Oh, really? Yeah, really.
07:15Welcome to the show.
07:17Matt's pig-ugly, he's got man boobs and a big belly.
07:19Yeah.
07:21I'm only an A-cut. What? I'm only an A-cut.
07:23LAUGHTER
07:25You say, I don't want to have a go at you, darling,
07:27but you make a big thing to my team
07:29when you say Matt's made no effort, right?
07:31He doesn't care.
07:33He doesn't know he's the father,
07:35cos you are looking at what?
07:37Three or four potential dads.
07:39I don't care if you don't...
07:41Oh, is there something to be proud of, then, is it?
07:43You can't help it if you like sex.
07:45You can't help it if you don't know
07:47what contraception is, love.
07:49CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
07:52Hold on a second.
07:54You had unprotected sex with four men in one month,
07:57and you're going to sit there and have a go at him?
07:59I'm not defending him,
08:01cos this should have been sorted a long time ago.
08:03But it's hardly great for you to sit there and say,
08:06what sort of dad have you been?
08:08You don't know he's the father, do you?
08:10Well, no, cos he faked it...
08:12Then why the hell haven't you done this sooner
08:14if your kid's a year old? Ask him. Ask him.
08:16OK.
08:18I've been messaging him on Facebook Messenger,
08:21oh, do you want to meet up to do a DNA test?
08:25How do you say to my team,
08:28I'm 99% sure that he's the father?
08:31How does that work?
08:34How many men, with respect, did you have unprotected sex with
08:38that are in the frame? Be honest.
08:40Four. Four?
08:42So he's got a 25% chance, even by Steve's maths.
08:48Why is it more like... This is brilliant, Steve. Ready, Steve?
08:51Sorry? Wait.
08:54Why, despite the fact that four men
08:57had penetrative unprotected sex with you,
09:00do you think there's a 99% chance that he's the father? Why?
09:04Because she's a spitting image of him.
09:06Even when she was born, she's a spitting image of him.
09:10If that's the case, why has it been so long to get the answer?
09:14I've been asking to meet up with him to do the DNA.
09:17No, I'm busy, I'm busy.
09:19And all you do is go out drinking with your mate.
09:22Are you jealous of his new bird?
09:24Hell no, she's a hippo.
09:28A 43-year-old hippo.
09:32Are you sure you're not still in love with him and slightly jealous?
09:35No. Why do you lie to him about a miscarriage?
09:38Because he got all of his friends wanting to be...
09:41Cos I sent him a picture, obviously, of the pregnancy test,
09:46and I turned around and said to him,
09:48oh, yeah, you're the father,
09:50and he then got so excited about it,
09:53and then getting your mates wanting to be...
09:55Why is it throughout your notes, darling, you say,
09:57they shouldn't be together, I'm nicer than her, dah, dah, dah?
10:00You're jealous, aren't you? No. Are you sure about that? 100%.
10:03So you're 99% sure... He can have that hippo as much as he wants.
10:06You're 99% sure, despite the fact that four men
10:08had unprotected sex with you in the space of a month,
10:10that he's the father of your baby because he looks like your daughter.
10:13You say, I've wanted to do a DNA.
10:15I took the swab on one of his mates, did it?
10:17You say, I want the truth.
10:18She told me she'd had a miscarriage, then I see she's pregnant,
10:21I don't know what's going on.
10:22Today we're going to discover the truth.
10:24What if he is the father?
10:25He's having nothing to do with her.
10:27Until he stays off the alcohol.
10:29Oh, he's now an alcoholic, is he?
10:30Yeah, he's supposed to have rehab, wasn't you, Matt?
10:33And did you go to your rehab? No!
10:35You've only had the best role model,
10:36having an alcoholic for a mother, have you?
10:38Excuse me, look at you then, you've always been an alcoholic.
10:40At least my mum changed her life around.
10:42I've been more of a drinker in the past, but I still drink.
10:44I've got seven kids on my own, three special needs.
10:46Why have you been an alcoholic for nine years?
10:48Go away!
10:49I'll stay with my three step-kids.
10:51Sorry, sorry, sorry.
10:52If he's right, you're right, and he's a raging alcoholic,
10:56who basically is useless, right,
10:58and you don't want him to have anything to do with your kid,
11:01why the hell did you have unprotected sex with him then?
11:04APPLAUSE
11:06Because I enjoyed it.
11:08Your daughter is going to see that one day she was conceived,
11:11maybe, because you enjoyed it.
11:13He's got a new girlfriend.
11:14By the way, her description of Sarah, who's next,
11:17is a 43-year-old hippo.
11:19I'm right back, don't go anywhere.
11:21My daughter has nothing to do with you.
11:23How do you know it's his father?
11:25How do you know it's his father?
11:27We're going to DNA test.
11:29Shut your mouth.
11:31This has nothing to do with you.
11:33DNA test is off show with Matt.
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12:02Well, welcome back.
12:04Before the break, Matt and Judith.
12:06Matt came out and he said,
12:08look, I had a one-night stand with a girl that was a friend of mine.
12:11I never heard from her again.
12:13Then she told me she was pregnant.
12:15Then she said she had a miscarriage.
12:17Then she said, anyway, I saw her in the street, pregnant.
12:20A child's a year. I've done a DNA.
12:22It was inconclusive.
12:24I've done a DNA.
12:26I've done a DNA.
12:28I've done a DNA.
12:30I've done a DNA. It was inconclusive.
12:32I feel like this woman's been winding me up.
12:34I want the truth. I've moved on.
12:36I'm going out with Sarah.
12:38You came out and said, yeah, there are four men in the frame.
12:41And I should have sorted it out, but I'm 99% sure he's the father
12:44because he looks like my daughter.
12:46There's a bit of an image.
12:48Really? Yes. Absolutely sure? Yes.
12:51Sarah's on the Jeremy Carl show, that way, the girlfriend!
12:55CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
12:58How dare you tell him he's a hippo and...
13:02You don't even know. No, no, she...
13:04Oh, really? You don't even know me? So why are you here?
13:06Why are you here? Tell me, why are you here?
13:08You don't even know me, so what? You don't even know me,
13:10so why are you here? You're not having nothing to do with my daughter,
13:13like you've been saying. You want to be her stepmother.
13:15And apparently you're going to do a better job than what I do.
13:18Oh, really? I've come to support my boyfriend, Matt.
13:20That's all I've come to support him for.
13:22That is it, though, that is it.
13:24My daughter's nothing to do with you.
13:26If he is the dad, it's just him.
13:28How do you know he is the father? You haven't been proven it later.
13:31That's why we're doing the DNA test.
13:34That's why we're here, to do the DNA test.
13:37And look at you, you're not perfect yourself, are you?
13:39And what size are you? What, 22? I'm 16, thank you.
13:42What does it matter about size? Yes.
13:44We're in love, we've got a good relationship.
13:46CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
13:52You say it's hardly surprising she slept around and gave herself so readily,
13:56because the mothers are raging alcoholic,
13:58you should have been a better parent, is that right?
14:00Let's get the mother jeans on the Jeremy Carl show that way.
14:03CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
14:11You shut your mouth.
14:13This has nothing to do with you.
14:15I come to support my partner. It's between the two of you.
14:19No, you shut up. Shut it. No, you shut up.
14:21You... What? ..want to sort yourself out.
14:24He has sorted himself out. Oh, shut up, I'm not talking to you.
14:27I'm not even talking to you. Shut up.
14:29Yeah. Shut up. Shut up.
14:31You need to go to anger management, not about me going...
14:34And you don't.
14:36Who throws things out of these flat windows?
14:39Yeah, we send the videos... And poking in the street.
14:42Yeah, we send the videos all over Facebook.
14:44Was that the time I threw you out of biscuits when we were 12 years old?
14:47No!
14:48Sorry, could I... Jean, your bag's very... Could you sit down?
14:51Yes, I'll sit down.
14:53So, here's the thing I don't get all morning.
14:55All you've said to my team is, he's no role model,
14:58he's going to be no parent, he's an absolute disgrace.
15:01You completely ignore the fact, madam,
15:03cos you were drunk half the time,
15:05that your daughter had unprotected sex with four men
15:08and it's her fault we're here anyway.
15:10And I wasn't drunk.
15:13I wasn't drunk.
15:15She went to stay at a...
15:17You weren't an alcoholic, always have been, haven't been a role model.
15:20No, I haven't always been an alcoholic.
15:22I changed my life around. When?
15:24Erm, nine years ago, ten years ago.
15:27Right, OK. Yeah. Yeah.
15:29I've changed my life completely.
15:31She said it's when they were kids you were an alcoholic.
15:33Yes, that's right. So she wasn't a role model. Yeah.
15:35What do you think of your daughter having unprotected sex with four men?
15:38I think it's disgraceful. Have you ever told her that?
15:40Yeah, I have.
15:42You fell out over it.
15:43Well, why are you having to go in when he's only got a 25% chance
15:45of being the father, then? Why is it his fault? It's her fault.
15:47She should have sorted this out a year ago.
15:49She should have got all four men on the...
15:51OK, so what? Hold on a minute.
15:53If it's not him, then you've got a 33 and a third percent.
15:56You should have had all the four men and sorted it out
15:58for the sake of the kids.
16:00You've done DNA tests with the other two.
16:02I've done him and someone else.
16:04Where, in McDonald's as well?
16:06No, actually, outside Peacock's, and they've done it right in front of me.
16:09LAUGHTER
16:19Imagine tuning into this in 20 years
16:21and them showing repeats of the Jeremy Carl show when I'm long gone
16:24to discover that you were actually...
16:26You found out that your father was your father outside Peacock's.
16:31Your view of this is slightly immature.
16:33I think you're jealous of her and I think you're jealous of her relationship.
16:36No, not at all. Really? Yes.
16:38You're irritated with,
16:39he's no good for her, she's no good for him,
16:41they shouldn't be together, she's a cow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:44Why does it matter to you? He's happy with her.
16:46I don't care if they're together or what.
16:48Are you sure about that? Yes, 100%, I really don't care.
16:51Really? You don't say that in your notes, love.
16:53He can stay with that hippo as much as he wants.
16:56Why are you so obsessed with her size, darling?
16:59Yeah.
17:01You've insulted his size, you've insulted her size.
17:04It's a cheap dig, that is, I tell you.
17:07She is involved, she's with him.
17:09She's defending a man and you're defending your daughter.
17:12Yeah. Why shouldn't she be involved?
17:14Well, she's not been involved with Lucy May.
17:17If he is the father...
17:19I thought there was a 99% chance he was.
17:22Truth is, you don't know, darling, cos you slept around.
17:25Does it make him any better, he said?
17:27He shouldn't have gone over there and had sex.
17:29You invited him to yours for sex.
17:31Actually, I was at my mother's.
17:33Well, wherever it was, you still invited me, didn't you?
17:35I said, do you want to come over and watch a film?
17:37Oh, right, Netflix.
17:39All the other ones.
17:41Yeah, whatever, Matt.
17:43Considering you're not perfect, before you got with her,
17:45you went off with all other different women before you got with her.
17:48What's that got to do with you? You're not with him, you don't want him.
17:51You're better off sleeping around, aren't you, than me?
17:53I've slept with 11 women in my life, Sarah being one of them.
17:56What I'm doing to make me that bad, is it, really?
17:58I don't sleep around, unlike you.
18:00Seven. I've had seven.
18:03How many women have you slept with?
18:0511. Is that all right? Steve, how many women have you slept with?
18:08Some of them.
18:1111. I want to do a survey quickly. Is 11 OK?
18:15Yeah, it's all right, Mr Cone.
18:17More or less than 11, truthfully?
18:19I'm not saying that, I'm telling the truth.
18:21That's more, isn't it?
18:23It's more, isn't it?
18:25I'm only standing here now because the cameraman on four
18:28is backing away from me because he's terrified.
18:30Rich, how are you? You all right?
18:32So, 11, do you consider that to be a good figure?
18:35Yeah, well done. How many women have you slept with?
18:37I don't count, I don't count.
18:39Come on. I don't count, it's less than that.
18:41You've gone red, haven't you? No, yeah.
18:43It's less than that, yeah? Less than 11, yeah.
18:45OK, Jonathan? My mum's watching.
18:47Your mum's watching? Yeah, my mum's watching.
18:49I know your mum very well.
18:53OK, fair enough.
19:01How many have you slept with?
19:03Give me the results.
19:05Right, so you don't know who the father of your baby is.
19:07That's not great, is it? But you are as responsible.
19:09Now, the one thing I would say to everybody is,
19:11it shouldn't be a year.
19:13Whether it's here or whether it's a private DNA test,
19:15this should have been done a lot sooner for the sake of this child.
19:17What I don't like is what your daughter says.
19:19And if he is the father, he's not seen the child.
19:21What right has he got to say that? What's wrong with this guy?
19:23Because he's in a new relationship.
19:25Surely your daughter would deserve the help, need the help.
19:27I can cope on my own, thank you. I don't need him.
19:30How sure are you?
19:32How sure are you that this child is his?
19:35That's the reality.
19:37And I'll tell you what I do think. I think he does look like her.
19:45Do you know what? At the end of the day,
19:47when push comes to shove, the arguments have to stop.
19:49It's about that child.
19:51What sort of mother has she been?
19:53She is a good mum. Right. Isn't that important?
19:55It really is.
19:57It's true, isn't it?
19:59The DNA test results show that Matt...
20:0399% sure, eh?
20:05..is not the child's father.
20:10Wait a minute, wait a minute.
20:12We're going to do this properly instead of flouncing.
20:14Sit down.
20:16I'll start with you.
20:18It's the reality of a one-night stand, pal, isn't it?
20:20It is.
20:22And for that, you might have paid a price,
20:24but you are as responsible in that moment as she was.
20:26Definitely.
20:28It's very easy to walk around saying,
20:30this girl's easy,
20:32or this girl gave herself readily to so many men.
20:34At that moment and on that night,
20:36whatever you call her, you were the male equivalent.
20:38Definitely.
20:40Some would say a lucky escape.
20:42Obviously, you're in love. That's fine. Good luck to you.
20:46But this has to be done decently.
20:4899%.
20:50The worst thing about this story
20:52is that you don't know, darling.
20:54I'm not having a go because I'm past doing that, OK?
20:58Your child doesn't know who its father is.
21:02And when you sit here and you go,
21:04Oh, I like sex.
21:06It's not the point, darling.
21:08It's about your kid. It's about your kid growing up.
21:10The kids I've seen that have grown up without a father.
21:13How they're messed up, bullied, laughed at.
21:15Sit waiting for him to arrive, watch a school game, whatever.
21:18You can put this right with our help.
21:20And you should put it right.
21:22It's not about animosity.
21:24I've read your notes.
21:26Absolutely convinced that you still have feelings.
21:28And I know, by the way, just for your information,
21:30that's horrible when it's not reciprocated.
21:32And he's moved on and you're left holding this baby,
21:34but it's not his.
21:36And the very best thing you can do, as follows,
21:38is to shake each other by the hand and get on with your lives,
21:40and we will help you find the father of your baby.
21:42Yes or no?
21:44APPLAUSE
21:50Do you want my help?
21:52Yes.
21:54I promise you, the team will help you.
21:57No more shouting.
21:59Let's get the truth for the sake of your daughter, yeah?
22:02Thanks for coming on.
22:04Give them a round of applause.
22:06APPLAUSE
22:08It's the reality, isn't it, you know?
22:10He's not the father, we will help him.
22:12He's not the father, we will help him.
22:14He's not the father, we will help him.
22:16He's not the father, we will help him.
22:18He's not the father, we will help him.
22:20There are three potentials. We'll let you know after the break.
22:23Jermaine had to prove to his sister that he is the father
22:26to his partner's twins.
22:28You've been with your partner, Kelly, for four years.
22:31Jamie will send abusive texts, calling her a bad mum,
22:34and her latest thing is to put around a rumour
22:36that you're not the father to your twins.
22:38Why are you here today?
22:40To tell her now that she's having nothing to do with my kids.
22:43The DNA test has now shown that Tim...
22:49Oh, what are you trying to get at, are you?
22:51Have you heard the news? The NTAs are back.
22:53Oh, the NTAs. Why don't you take a promo, Jez?
22:56Cos everybody will vote for you. No, they don't.
22:5812 years, 2,000 shows, I've been abused, I've been threatened,
23:01I've been ill, everything's happened in my life,
23:03nobody gives a damn about me.
23:05You're not in, nobody's interested, I'm not...
23:07Oh, and there it is, isn't it? It's all about you.
23:10It's about Big Steve, everybody Big Steve.
23:12Nobody gives a damn about Jezza anymore.
23:14Well, do you know what? I'm going to a dark room to lie down!
23:34Mmm!
23:36CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
23:44Hello. Security guard on Jeremy Gale show.
23:48Very, very butch, very manly.
23:53Protect me for a change.
23:55You love the big man, do you? Oh, I love the big man.
24:06Good morning and welcome to my show.
24:09CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
24:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
24:21Thank you very much indeed. Welcome back.
24:23My next guest today, Tim, is here to prove to his sister, Jamie,
24:26that he is indeed the father to his partner's 18-week-old twins.
24:29Now, Tim says he's had enough of Jamie bad-mouthing
24:32both him and his bird, Kelly, and says that after today,
24:35he plans to disown his sister for good.
24:37Big day for this guy, Tim, on the Jeremy Gale show. That way.
24:40CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
24:45How are you?
24:47Tight trousers. You all right sitting down? Yeah, I'm fine.
24:50You all right? Welcome to the show.
24:52Tim, 27, I'm sick of my sister's attention-seeking behaviour.
24:55She needs to grow up and accept my partner.
24:57You're with who are you with? I'm with Kelly.
24:59Kelly? How long have you been with Kelly?
25:01I don't know, for about four years.
25:03OK, and 18-week-old twins at the centre of this story.
25:06Why does Jamie have an opinion?
25:08You say she's a massive attention-seeker. What do you mean by that?
25:11Well, she's always... In my eyes, she's always...
25:14If things ain't going her way, then she causes trouble.
25:18Simple as. What, is she not happy that you're happy?
25:21No, it can't be that.
25:22That's why she's now bringing the twins into it.
25:24Were you close growing up? Were you...?
25:26We've always had a love-hate relationship, always.
25:29But she's... What's the drug allegation?
25:31Well, it was, on my birthday a few years ago, she tried buying drugs.
25:36Don't know what they were, but I stopped it from happening.
25:39Then we got into a bit of a heated argument outside.
25:42She got in my face, so I pushed her out of my face.
25:45Doing a security course, I know you're not allowed in personal space,
25:48so I pushed her away.
25:49Then she fell over.
25:51And then she told the whole of my family that I stamped on her head.
25:55You've been with your partner, Kelly, for four years.
25:58Jamie will send abusive texts, calling her a bad mum,
26:01and her latest thing is to put around a rumour
26:03that you're not the father to the twins.
26:05Yeah, last time my partner was on this show,
26:08she sent him a message saying,
26:10don't you think you shouldn't be doing a DNA test for your dad,
26:12you should be doing one with the twins.
26:14So then that obviously...
26:15You said it's a bit rich from a woman who's got a £4,000 disability payout,
26:19spends nothing on her kids, does whatever,
26:21and is in fact a terrible, terrible mum.
26:23I wouldn't say... I don't know the exact amount,
26:25but if it was me, I would have spent the money
26:28on trying to fight for my kids instead of wasting it.
26:33I know she decorated the house, but she still wasted the majority of it.
26:37So you and she are at loggerheads,
26:40that's caused you to not see each other's kids,
26:43so nieces and nephews are not having the time.
26:45Yeah, the only people that really get affected is family members.
26:49Why does she hate Kelly?
26:51She says that Kelly's a gullible, two-faced, vindictive, spiteful mug.
26:56I don't know. They don't really know each other.
26:59They've only met each other...
27:01God, what would she say if she did know her?
27:03Probably four or five times they've met each other.
27:05She says she wishes that you weren't her brother.
27:07You're vile, selfish and you're a woman-beater.
27:09I'm not a woman-beater. I stuck up for myself.
27:13Your sister Jamie's on the Jeremy Carr Show That Way.
27:24Jamie, welcome to the show. Come on, walk quicker.
27:26Time is money. What's going on?
27:28You've described him as...
27:29Well, you called her a gullible, two-faced mug, that's Kelly,
27:32and you say, I wish he wasn't my brother.
27:34That'll be why you're here then, darling, won't it?
27:36Well, yeah.
27:37Well, the first reason is because he's...
27:40Next reason is because he wants something about me and him.
27:43Now it's about his twins.
27:44Apparently you don't believe he's the father of the twins.
27:46No, I don't. Why?
27:47Because one minute she's with Tim,
27:49when they split up she's in bed with...next day,
27:52and then when they split up she's back with Tim.
27:55And I'm not the only one that doesn't think it.
27:57Most of my family don't think it either.
27:59Do you know this girl?
28:00Can you bring me that chair,
28:01cos I want to get this other girl out as soon as possible.
28:03Do you have much to do with Kelly? Have you...?
28:05No, we used to get on and then all of a sudden we don't get on.
28:08Why don't you get on?
28:10Because we don't, because of you and your lies, Tim.
28:13My lies.
28:15This woman said you're not a good role model,
28:17you should stop having kids.
28:18I can't have any more kids, but...
28:20Yeah, cos he's had to snip because my...told him to.
28:22No, he didn't.
28:23How many kids have you got?
28:25I could have a possible of seven.
28:27I could.
28:30What a work.
28:31He's literally got a double in the last couple of weeks.
28:33I could have a possible seven.
28:35He's just literally got a double in the last couple of weeks.
28:37What?
28:38He's only got a double in the last couple of weeks.
28:40So you're saying he's stupid, she's as bad.
28:42I've got to get her out.
28:43How long have you been with Kelly?
28:45Kelly's on the Jeremy Carl Show that way.
28:52Kelly, welcome to the show. Help me out here.
28:54You've been with Tim on and off for four years.
28:56What's the beef here with you and the sister?
28:58Talk to me.
28:59I've got a clue.
29:00Talk to each other.
29:01Apart from she thinks I have twin symptoms,
29:03because I...
29:04A week after me and Tim split up.
29:06Not the week.
29:07Well...
29:08And I'm not being funny.
29:09I'm not being funny.
29:10You weren't even involved around that time.
29:12You weren't talking to Tim or me, so how do you know what's going on?
29:15Cos I'm a family person, Kelly.
29:17But why's she talking to him?
29:18It's what he tells our families,
29:19so you want to control him then, don't you?
29:21You abused every single one of our family.
29:23You only bother with your family when you need them.
29:25No, I haven't, Tim.
29:26The audience should know I've got a medical condition,
29:28which means you have a low life expectancy.
29:30You say that your brother's that thoughtless.
29:32He thinks you've made it all up. He's not sympathetic at all.
29:34He thinks I play on it and that I'm faking it.
29:36I don't say that.
29:37I always say she uses it to her advantage.
29:40Well, maybe if your life expectancy isn't great,
29:42maybe you aren't in a brilliant place, mate.
29:44Maybe you should be more understanding.
29:48How many times have you told her to drop down dead?
29:51Er, a few times.
29:53Nice.
29:54She's said it to me.
29:55You say this girl's horrible about your kids.
29:57Yeah.
29:58Talk!
29:59Horrible about your kids how?
30:01You said when you had Carissa one day,
30:03when she had chocolate on her top,
30:05you went and brought her new clothes
30:06because she said that she was a tramp.
30:08Yeah, alone.
30:09You let your daughter sleep in her bedroom
30:11when they're sick in her room for two weeks
30:13and you...
30:14..to go and clean it up.
30:15That's...
30:16Who's Keeley?
30:17Keeley's my best friend.
30:18Keeley's on a Jeremy Carr show that way as well.
30:21CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
30:26Can you help me out here?
30:27Cos nobody's saying anything.
30:28You say he's a scumbag.
30:29Oh, yes, he's just petty schoolground stuff.
30:31What's going on here?
30:32It's just constant bickering,
30:33making up fairy tale after fairy tale for a bit of attention.
30:36Come on, come on, you two.
30:38We fall out because we're best friends.
30:40That's what we do.
30:41You need to speak up, love. Nobody can hear you.
30:43Keeley, speak up, love. Nobody can hear you.
30:45It's nothing to do with us having boyfriends.
30:47Are you on and off a few more times than I have at dinners?
30:50Oh, yeah, of course.
30:51Do you want to talk about your relationships?
30:53On and off, then, Tim. On and off, on and off.
30:55Where are your kids?
30:56When's the last time you bothered with any of your children?
30:59They're part of the children
31:00that you're sleeping with their mother.
31:02The only children you bother with
31:03is the mother that you're sleeping with, Tim.
31:05No, it... Yes, it is. No, it ain't. Yes, it is.
31:07No, it is not.
31:08She's not speaking to me cos you don't even know me.
31:11That's why you're here.
31:12That's OK.
31:13You're probably a bad mum and everything
31:15and you don't even know me.
31:16I'm not a bad mum. I've never said that.
31:18You brought me on here.
31:19No.
31:20I texted you a few months ago in a rant because you argued with me,
31:24being horrible, telling me to drop dead, everything.
31:27So I told you,
31:28instead of you coming on here to see if your dad was your dad,
31:31which we all knew that he was,
31:32maybe come on here and see if the twins are actually yours,
31:35cos I'm the only one man enough to say it to you, Tim.
31:37No, you're the only one.
31:38When was the last time you put a post on Facebook
31:40that said, I'm so happy I've got a new niece and nephew,
31:42but yet you said they're not yours?
31:44Where did I get that photo from, Kelly?
31:46No, I did not.
31:47Yes, you did.
31:48No, I did not.
31:50Kelly said...
31:51Why put it on Facebook if you don't think they're Tim's?
31:53You've got nothing to do with him.
31:55Cos I don't look like Tim.
31:56And...
31:57You look like her dad.
31:58Yeah.
31:59Yeah?
32:00Why don't you think the twins are Tim's?
32:02You try saying that.
32:03Why don't you think the twins are Tim's?
32:05Just because of the way she was, where they're going from.
32:07Boyfriends, are you having a month, Jamie?
32:09Well, that's funny.
32:10How long have you been with your boyfriend?
32:12A week.
32:13A week.
32:14I've been with my boyfriend for a month, thank you.
32:16A week.
32:18Yes, I do.
32:19Yeah, of course you do.
32:20That's why you're here, doing a DNA test.
32:22Not for us, because of her.
32:23Because of me.
32:24What does she matter?
32:25If you don't want her in your life,
32:27why have you got to prove to her who your kid's dad is?
32:30Why have you got to prove it to her?
32:32Have you got doubts, Tim?
32:34No, I haven't.
32:35Then why are we doing it, then?
32:37I've said to your team...
32:38I'm asking you, mate, have you got doubts?
32:40No, I've already told you, no.
32:42Then why are we doing it?
32:43Because the rest of the family have got doubts.
32:45Just do what she said, that you only care about the kids
32:47when you're sleeping with their mother.
32:49The rest of the time, they get ignored.
32:51I'm just too uneven here, so he's stepped up and been a dad.
32:53How about the five he doesn't see?
32:55The five that he can't see, because two of them,
32:57he don't know where they are.
32:58One, he doesn't know if...
33:01And that's why.
33:02Why, what sort of father is he?
33:04She wouldn't know what sort of a father I am, she's not in my life.
33:06He's a horrible person.
33:07What he says about me, about if things don't go my way,
33:10I basically throw my dummy out the pram.
33:13That is Tim, he's turning it all around on me, that is Tim.
33:16Like that day, when we went out for a night out,
33:19he pushed me, he punched me, I ended up on the floor.
33:22So why didn't you file a police summary?
33:23It didn't actually stamp on my head, it went to...
33:25But you told the producers...
33:27It stamped on your head?
33:28It took five blokes to push him off me and actually start,
33:30and Tim himself...
33:31Five blokes to push that off you?
33:33Yeah, they all started on him, five blokes.
33:35Cos he'd had a drink.
33:37Why are you here today?
33:39To tell her now that she's having nothing to do with my kids, or me.
33:42You've banned me from seeing them anyway, I've never met them.
33:44No, she's ill.
33:45I've never met them, I'm the only one out of the family
33:48who he's not let see.
33:49So the family agree with you?
33:50Some of the family agree that they don't think the twins are his.
33:54AUDIENCE GROANS
34:00Why do you have doubts?
34:02Jamie?
34:03Sorry, just looking at his ears.
34:06Just because...
34:08The DNA test results show that Tim...
34:12..is the biological father of the twins.
34:14APPLAUSE
34:20I don't know why we're here.
34:22I don't know why we're here either.
34:24Cos everyone had these doubts...
34:26These two rang the show.
34:28Do me a favour, you go there, you go there.
34:30Give them a round of applause.
34:32APPLAUSE
34:36This is not going to be around forever, mate.
34:38This is pointless rubbish.
34:39He has every right to be with who he wants to be.
34:42I know, and I don't think we've got a problem with that.
34:44Right, well, when you have an opinion, or whatever,
34:48it's going to impact.
34:50I understand that, and last time we had an argument,
34:52I told him I'd never speak to him again, and I haven't.
34:54I would suspect that the reason that you two are like the you are
34:57is that you're very similar and you're both incredibly stubborn.
35:00I would suspect, having met you, yeah,
35:02that actually what you say is probably the polar opposite
35:06to what you actually feel.
35:08I guess you've both made mistakes.
35:10I guess, without going into detail, you've both had children
35:13that you could have done more for or don't see or whatever.
35:16But that's your brother and that's your sister,
35:18and life's very short.
35:19And I used to defend him. I used to.
35:21Look at him. I can't.
35:23Yes, you can. I can't.
35:24It's rubbish. It's a game.
35:28I used to defend him, no matter what,
35:30through, like, all of his baby mums, all of them.
35:34Even if he was in the wrong, I'd defend him.
35:36What changed?
35:38There's just no gratitude there.
35:40Let him talk to you. Look at him.
35:42Yes, you can.
35:43It's the same with you, though.
35:44Like I said to your team, we're both as stubborn as each other.
35:47When I need you, you're there. When you need me, I'm there.
35:50But we won't... You're never there, Tim.
35:52I am. Every time you've been in hospital or you've been told...
35:55I was in intensive care last year, Tim. And I turned up?
35:57Yeah, and they moaned at me about it.
35:59No, they didn't.
36:00Because you had to come and see me on my birthday.
36:02You know, you can ask anyone,
36:03I don't celebrate birthdays, I don't celebrate Christmas, so...
36:06Can we cut to the chase? You two are doing it again.
36:08I don't want anything. I don't want a relationship with him.
36:11I'll come here to see if I can see the twins
36:13and have a relationship with them, but I don't want nothing to do with Tim.
36:17You think that's a fair ask?
36:18I want to see your kids, but I want nothing to do with you as a kid's mother?
36:21He still sees my daughter.
36:22Can I just say one thing to all of you?
36:24Cos this sort of story depresses me and then I end up feeling quite old.
36:27You keep popping out kids left, right and centre, people like you.
36:30I got sterilised when I had my daughter.
36:32Anyway, the children that you have created are caught up in this mess,
36:37this trivial, immature, point-scoring mess.
36:40It doesn't matter who you're with, it matters about who you create.
36:43And if you don't see your kids, you should.
36:46I think that you are obviously going through a hard time medically.
36:49I think that impacts on how you feel.
36:51I don't believe for one minute that you don't want a relationship with him.
36:54I don't.
36:55I love him and I'll always love him cos he's my brother,
36:58but I can physically not have a relationship with him.
37:00He stresses me out too much.
37:01I think you have to understand, darling, he's not going to like to see his kids then.
37:05Well, if that's... Well, I'll always be there for them.
37:08The only people that are getting affected out of all this is the kids.
37:11Can you sit and talk with him?
37:12Like you said, she's not always going to be around,
37:14so if she can't have a relationship with me...
37:16Just sit on the ground and see if there's any common ground.
37:18Nothing to lose. Half an hour.
37:20Try.
37:21You came this far. Nothing to lose?
37:24Really, we need to talk about our differences and draw a line, but...
37:28Line?
37:29We're both as stubborn as each other.
37:31What do you need to do? Sit and talk with him?
37:33You need to sit and talk and draw a line?
37:35Even if it's just for ten minutes.
37:36Shut up a minute, that's my line.
37:38Don't make me laugh, please.
37:40Yes or no?
37:41You might even smile.
37:42For ten minutes, yeah, but...
37:43Just ten minutes, yeah?
37:44Shake his hand, shake her hand and we'll sort it out.
37:46I can't.
37:47Yes, you can. You're an adult. Shake his hand.
37:49I'm meant to be 29.
37:50Come on.
37:52You go that way, you go that way. We'll do our best, all right?
37:58Don't know if it'll work, we'll let you know.
38:00Don't go anywhere after this break.
38:02More lie detector results on this stage. We'll be right back.
38:05Everything was, by anybody's standards, perfect.
38:08Everything was good.
38:09You found some messages on his Facebook page.
38:13Meet me then tomorrow whilst I'm at work.
38:17If you're sure where and when I can pay for a hotel.
38:21Since the start of your relationship with Kirsty,
38:23you have sexual intercourse with anyone else but our son.
38:37My next guest today, Kirsty, is here because she is utterly desperate
38:40to find out if her fiancé has been cheating on her
38:42after she found lewd messages between him, lewd,
38:45and another woman where they allegedly met up in a hotel for sex.
38:48Now, understandably, Kirsty's devastated and says that her wedding
38:51to her fiancé Sam is well and truly cancelled
38:54until this guy can clear his name, but she says,
38:56I've seen them, there is no way on God's earth
38:59that this guy has done anything but lie.
39:01And today will be through.
39:02Kirsty is next on The Jeremy Cowell Show.
39:04That way, give her a round of applause.
39:06CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
39:16You've got that resigned look of somebody who knows
39:18in about 15 minutes it's all going south, right?
39:22I hope so.
39:25Two years with Sam, engaged for a year.
39:28How do you meet?
39:30At his workplace.
39:31You need to speak up.
39:33At his work.
39:34You love this guy, don't you?
39:36Yeah.
39:37Everything was, by anybody's standards, perfect.
39:39Everything was good.
39:40And then out the blue, and you know I'm a bit of a technophobe,
39:43unlike Graham, who tweets everybody,
39:45you found some messages on his Facebook page.
39:49Can we elaborate, please? Speak up.
39:52Let me hear you. It's a talk show.
39:55Yeah.
39:56He did. Messages.
39:58What happened? What did they say?
40:00Hi, Sam. I know you've got a partner,
40:03but you're looking hot and all that.
40:07I think we've got some, actually, just heard in my ear.
40:09Can we have a look at these?
40:10Sam, you look hot too.
40:12Wow, didn't expect a reply.
40:14That's from her. Sam, no problem. What do you want?
40:16Well, it was just a message to say you look quite hot,
40:18so nothing really. Keep them going, please.
40:20Matthew?
40:21Oh, that's good, then. Ha-ha.
40:23Yeah, I'll meet you.
40:25More fiancé, but no-one is watching.
40:28That's naughty.
40:29Meet me then tomorrow whilst I'm at work.
40:32I don't know, man.
40:33I don't want to come between anything.
40:35I'll give it a miss. I don't care.
40:37Meet me in Wolverhampton tomorrow.
40:41If you're sure where and when I can pay for a hotel.
40:45Half past eleven tomorrow.
40:47Do you know that? No idea what that is.
40:50Devastating.
40:51OK, I'll meet you there. Please don't say anything.
40:53I do love her, but I like sleeping with other people too.
40:56Oh!
40:59You'd read that and you would think everything's...
41:03Walking down to the train station now.
41:05I see you. Thanks for paying for the hotel. You were amazing.
41:08Defo something you again. It's a short word.
41:10I think there's only four letters.
41:12Cook for you again.
41:14No problem, Mr Big.
41:16Oh.
41:21You're engaged to this guy and you see that.
41:23That's your world comes absolutely crumbling down.
41:26You confront him straight away? Yeah.
41:29What did he say? He's banged to rights when you look at that.
41:32He said that he didn't do anything.
41:35He says... I'm learning so much on this show.
41:37I know what Netflix and chilling is.
41:40I know about poking and prodding.
41:42But he says he's being catfished.
41:44What does that mean?
41:46Like someone's faking accounts and sending messages to different people.
41:51So he's saying he's never ever sent those messages.
41:53I've been set up. Why would somebody set him up like that?
41:56I don't have a clue.
41:58You found them on his phone.
42:00No, they were sent to me.
42:02Is there any part of you that believes
42:05that this guy could have been catfished?
42:08I mean, to me, bang to rights, a million per cent.
42:11Talk to me. Come on.
42:13I don't know. It's just hard. I just hope that he hasn't done anything.
42:17What does your heart say? What does your gut say?
42:19He's done it.
42:21And if he has, what does that mean?
42:23It's over. Pack his things and go.
42:26A lot of people say that on this show,
42:28and then, you know, they go home together and they get talked round.
42:32But you say that you definitely mean this.
42:35You say the worst thing about this is that it's changed the whole basis
42:39of the relationship.
42:41I want to check up on him the whole time, want to know where he is,
42:44and it's not good.
42:46It's like we can't... I can't trust him at all.
42:49To destroying the relationship?
42:51It's bad. You've returned the ring?
42:53I did, but then I put it back on.
42:56Difficult as well, isn't it? Easy to sit here and go,
42:59there are the messages, black and white, you know.
43:01The guy's guilty, but...
43:03But you say... I mean, to me, looking at him...
43:08I don't know whether he looks guilty or not.
43:10You say that if he fails the test,
43:12I'm not one of those people that would ever be able to forgive.
43:15I'm planning a family next year,
43:17but I will walk away if this guy has disrespected me.
43:20He says I was catfished.
43:22How many people in this audience think that's rubbish
43:25and this guy's cheated on this woman?
43:27100%.
43:28Sam's on the Jeremy Carl show that way.
43:40Not what I expected, there you go.
43:42I have been catfished.
43:43Explain to me what the hell that means.
43:45What are you talking about?
43:46It's what everybody else is using.
43:48It's just somebody's created a fake account.
43:50We found the fake account.
43:51Why would somebody do that to you, Sam?
43:53Jealousy.
43:55You tell me, I ain't got a clue. I'm in as much of the dark as you are.
43:58So you didn't send those messages, you didn't go to Wolverhampton to a hotel,
44:01you never had sex with them, you're not big.
44:03No.
44:06I'll be honest, yeah.
44:08I quite like him.
44:10Kirsty is now making me send photos
44:13proving that I've arrived at work.
44:15The relationship's in the toilet.
44:17But she told us that you've been deleting messages,
44:19so she can't see them, didn't you?
44:21No.
44:22The messages that got sent to him on his Facebook, the first two,
44:26he said that he didn't message back.
44:29But I've got all them messages that I've just sent you from...
44:32You don't seem angry, you don't seem upset,
44:34you don't seem like you give a damn.
44:36It's not that I don't give a damn, obviously I love it a bit,
44:38it's just that I know that I've not done anything wrong and I'm in the right.
44:41See, 100% of this lot think that you're a liar.
44:44You say, I'm 100% certain, I'll prove I haven't cheated,
44:47I wouldn't risk losing this lady, she's perfect, I love the bones of her.
44:52Yeah, 100%, I do, I love her to bits.
44:54She says, if anything's happened, you're gone.
44:57Yeah, I know.
44:58Give me those lie detector results.
44:59You said, I love this man, I'm engaged to this man,
45:01we were planning a family, if he has done anything at all, we are through.
45:06Two years, you say, I wouldn't risk this woman, I love this woman.
45:09100% of this audience think that your fiancé's a liar.
45:12You say anything at all and he's gone, yeah?
45:19Since the start of your relationship with Kirsty,
45:21have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else, we asked Sam.
45:24Walking down to the train station now.
45:27I see you.
45:28Thanks for paying for the hotel, you were amazing.
45:30Defo something you again.
45:32No problem, Mr Big.
45:34Maybe when I'm next down here.
45:36Since the start of your relationship with Kirsty,
45:38have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
45:40You said no, why did you say no?
45:41Because he was telling the truth.
45:42Sorry?
45:43I was telling the truth, yeah.
45:44He was telling the truth.
45:48All one.
45:50Shame on you.
45:52Oh, yeah, you're all clapping him now, aren't you?
45:57Smart after the result's out.
45:59Since the start of your relationship with Kirsty,
46:01have you had sexual contact with any other person?
46:03He said no, because he was telling the truth,
46:05ladies and gentlemen.
46:08In fact, oh, yeah, well...
46:12This is one of the biggest, biggest shocks of my life,
46:14cos I don't know about catfishing, but he's absolutely right,
46:17he passed every single question on the lie detector.
46:29He's actually really nice, isn't he?
46:31Now you and I are feeling awful. Come on, speak.
46:33I won't be funny, she told me.
46:35Even though I know what the result is, she's still going to whip me.
46:38That's another show.
46:40Not his fault, though, is it?
46:42It's funny, actually, when we've done this for 12 years,
46:44and a lot of the stories come about because people get involved
46:47in other people's lives, which is a bit weird from somebody
46:49who does this for a living, but actually, you know,
46:51whether it's social media or gossip or whatever,
46:53people seem to get jealous and they point the finger
46:55and they stir the pot.
46:57Um, are we going to smile?
47:00LAUGHTER
47:02APPLAUSE
47:07Is the wedding on?
47:09I don't know.
47:11I'll think about it later.
47:13Yeah, it'll be back on.
47:15Well, tonight will be a big night if you play your cards right, won't it?
47:18LAUGHTER
47:20I'll start practising now.
47:22When you watch this back, you won't believe that you actually said
47:24you weren't big on national television.
47:26Congratulations, thanks for coming on.
47:28Go, go, go, go, go.
47:35So, I'm off this morning out of time.
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47:41To my guests, to this audience and to you at home, thanks for watching.
47:43We'll see you very soon. Take care. Bye-bye for now.
47:53You may be seeing a world's first here.
47:55It's taking over my life and I really want my life back.
47:58If we don't treat this, you will become anemic.
48:05From what he says, you could be dead in five years.
48:07Those screws rebuilt your face. Yeah.
48:10And saved your life. That's amazing.
48:12I didn't think there was anything anybody could do.
48:18Really good news. This can be sorted and this can be treated.
48:21Happy with that? Yes.
48:23Am I happy? Yeah.
48:25I love him. Don't we look amazing?
48:28I think you're one of the bravest men I've ever met.
48:32I've just had a stroke already. Yeah.
48:34We need to urgently refer you to the stroke team.
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