The Jeremy Kyle Show (05 Jan 2017)
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00:10On today's show...
00:11Tell me about the night in the caravan.
00:13Oh, basically, we had a little bar mat, I had a little argument.
00:17Be quiet!
00:18Hold on a minute.
00:19Oi!
00:20Shut up!
00:21You suspect she did something with your cousin?
00:22Yeah, because I had an argument and she slept in that room with him.
00:27What happened on Facebook last night?
00:30Basically, he started talking to me, telling me that he believes Jessie's cheated on him
00:35and that he's going to make an admission on stage today, saying that he kissed a girl.
00:42Can I have your permission to leave?
00:43I want to replace you.
00:48She's not going to listen to you, mate, he's cheated four times, why are we bothering with this?
00:52She needs to wise up, what is she playing at?
00:54What are you doing?
00:56What is this here?
00:58Now look at her!
00:59Why are you trying to...
01:00I'm not talking yet!
01:01I need to find out...
01:03Please, I don't want to talk about this!
01:05Drug-taking, cheating, doesn't work!
01:07I'm so sorry!
01:08Your girlfriend, like a piece of...
01:10You're running after her!
01:11Dude, who do you think best deserves, more than you?
01:14Best didn't even ring the show, you rang the show!
01:16Yeah, I did ring the show!
01:17Yeah, why didn't you ring?
01:18I don't want my sister with you!
01:20I made you dinner every night!
01:23I did the dishes, I washed your clothes, I put food in your stomach
01:26and you just throw it in my face!
01:48Hello my friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:51My first guest Dan is here for make or break lie detector results
01:54because he is utterly convinced that his on-off girlfriend Jess
01:57has cheated on him, ready for this?
01:59With his cousin.
02:02In a caravan.
02:05Was it static or was it moving?
02:07Probably the latter, I don't know.
02:08Dan says the reason why he suspects Jess of cheating with his cousin
02:11is due to the fact they went on a recent holiday to Skegness.
02:14They were all in the caravan.
02:15I'm going to deliver the line.
02:17Don't come knocking when the caravan's rocking.
02:20Let's give it up for Jeremy Carlton!
02:30You do knock your head down, you don't like that?
02:32I'm normally good anyway.
02:33How are you, Dan, you all right?
02:34Yeah, I'm good.
02:35Nice to see you, Danny boy.
02:36Sit up straight.
02:37Welcome to the show.
02:38Now, listen, here's the thing.
02:39You and Jess, she's 18, you're 21.
02:42You're not together at the moment.
02:43This is an on-off...
02:44What does on-off mean?
02:45Basically, on and off, like breaking up.
02:48Why?
02:50I first met Jess at a friend's party.
02:53She was the one that...
02:54It wasn't at a friend's party,
02:55it was at my party at my house.
02:57That's why.
02:58Who wrote this?
03:00Whoever wrote this is fired.
03:02She was the one that caught my eye in the crowd.
03:04She was stunning.
03:05Yeah, she was.
03:06Oh, shut up, you.
03:09Oh, love at first sight.
03:10If it was going well, they wouldn't be here.
03:13So, you got together quite quickly.
03:15Yeah.
03:16The relationship was great at the start.
03:18Yeah.
03:19For how long?
03:20And then the cracks started to appear.
03:21Say about, after about two and a half months.
03:23Two and a half months.
03:24You say that she left her phone unlocked, I believe.
03:27Yeah.
03:28She was sexting...
03:29I don't understand any of this.
03:30Basically, this was about two and a half weeks
03:32before we even broke up.
03:33Yeah.
03:34I found a text message on the phone.
03:36Saying what?
03:37Oh, when we're meeting up, baby.
03:39I was like, who's this baby boy?
03:41You know what I mean?
03:42Who's that?
03:43And she left it unlocked.
03:44I know her code anyway.
03:45She knows mine.
03:46She goes through my phone as well,
03:47so why can't I go through hers?
03:48But why would you have to, after 21 weeks together?
03:50That's not a very good relationship, is it?
03:52No.
03:53So, you checked her phone, you found a message,
03:55you confronted her.
03:56What did she say?
03:57Well, I didn't...
03:58Who's baby?
03:59It was over Facebook.
04:00Oh, there's some lad who she knows.
04:01Apparently, it's a mate.
04:02Her mate.
04:03And apparently, she was taking...
04:04She was taking...
04:07Apparently, she was taking random trips to Nottingham.
04:11Well, up to her cousin's house, apparently.
04:13Whereabouts in Nottingham?
04:15I'm not too sure whereabouts in Nottingham,
04:17but it was up to...
04:21Can I just do something that...
04:23You admitted you kissed the girl behind my back, cheater!
04:28Dad, keep your head up, Dad!
04:30Who's that?
04:31Dad, keep your head up!
04:33Who's that?
04:34I'm going to keep my head up, mate.
04:35That's my girl.
04:36Keep your head up, mate.
04:38It's hard for me to trust her.
04:40She's always telling stupid lies.
04:42She finished the relationship, you think,
04:44because of this car...
04:46Tell me about the night in the caravan.
04:48Oh, basically, we had a little bar, man, having a little argument.
04:51Be quiet!
04:53Oi, shut up, sit down, be quiet, lose the picture.
04:56Tell me about...
04:59So, in the caravan, you...
05:01This is brilliant.
05:02You suspect she did something with your cousin?
05:04Yeah.
05:05Do you know what his name is? Ready for this? Dodge.
05:09So, Dodge, your cousin, you reckon she and him got it on?
05:13Yeah, because I had an argument and she slept in that room with him.
05:16She slept in a room with Dodge?!
05:18Yeah.
05:19It's a bit dodgy.
05:20That's caravan, so...
05:21Dodge says,
05:22We all went on a caravan, I'll just skegness.
05:24Everyone drank too much, and this is when the rumours started.
05:27I didn't sleep with Jess.
05:28He needs to stop listening to other people
05:30and leave me out of their relationship, which is toxic.
05:32If she fails one question, there's no future.
05:35But hold on a minute, she dumps you.
05:37You're still in love with her, you want her back.
05:39Yeah.
05:40Why are you doing a lie detector? Why am I doing this show?
05:42Why are you doing a lie detector?
05:44I told her about this, around about Halloween time,
05:46I kissed someone and I told her about it.
05:48When?
05:49Around about Halloween time.
05:50What, at Halloween, you kissed somebody?
05:52In a mask? Where?
05:54No.
05:55Where? Behind a pumpkin, in their house?
05:57In town.
05:58What?
05:59Apparently it was in town at half-east.
06:00So what did you offer, a trick or a treat?
06:02I'm really honest with you, I'm hopeless.
06:04So you gave her a bit of a treat, and what did she...
06:07So you kissed somebody, well, that's not brilliant, is it?
06:10I kissed someone, but I pushed her back, and I was like...
06:12What do you mean, sorry, you kissed her,
06:14and then you went...
06:16So she tried to kiss you.
06:17Yeah.
06:18Why, because you're...
06:19I was just, obviously, it was just, like, one-off thing.
06:21Today you'll pass, you want her to pass, you're in love with her,
06:23if she fails one question, you're history, is that right?
06:25You're in love with this woman, let's put it right.
06:27Jess is on the Jeremy Carl Show, that way.
06:29CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
06:36How tall are you?
06:37Six foot.
06:38Stand up! Stand up!
06:40Brilliant!
06:43Jess, he was the perfect boyfriend, I fell for him straight away.
06:47Yeah.
06:48Why, darling?
06:49Basically, his cousin was basically...
06:52Dodge? Yeah.
06:53Did you get dodgy with Dodge?
06:55No.
06:56Why were you sharing a bed with Dodge?
06:57I wasn't.
06:58You were sharing a room with Dodge?
06:59I wasn't sharing a room.
07:00Talk to him! You were shouting...
07:02You were sharing a room with him,
07:04because I woke up the next morning, you was on that side,
07:07he was on that side.
07:08Don't mean that we was doing anything.
07:10So you did share a room with him, then?
07:12You said you didn't.
07:13Tell me about the text message from the person saying,
07:15how are you, baby?
07:16He's my best friend.
07:17And he didn't say, baby.
07:19What did he say?
07:20He just said, babe.
07:21Because he deleted the texts.
07:22No.
07:23But what's really interesting is she says,
07:25nothing happened in the caravan, nothing's ever happened,
07:28this is all you, in your mind, you think he's a cheat,
07:31he kissed a bird...
07:32Cos he omitted on live video, on Facebook,
07:34when I was watching it, he kissed a girl,
07:37And what about, who's Curtis, by the way?
07:39My mate.
07:40What happened last night with Curtis?
07:42We just started watching a live video.
07:47Let's get Curtis on the Jeremy Carr Show,
07:49he's coming out next.
07:50Come on!
07:51CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
07:58Did you get your fire?
07:59Jess, listen, I swear to God, right,
08:01you never said nothing in the taxi on the way up here,
08:04and you told me yourself that, yeah,
08:06you stayed in the room with Dodge in the caravan.
08:08I went on this holiday, I was supposed to go on this holiday,
08:11obviously the caravan was rocking, clearly.
08:16But you said to me, you stayed in the caravan with Dodge.
08:19What happened on Facebook last night?
08:21Oh, right, yeah, yeah, right, basically,
08:23I love social media, I'm always live on Facebook.
08:25I hate it.
08:26Oh, I love it, yeah.
08:27I hate it.
08:28You love social media.
08:29You love me.
08:30Yeah, yeah, yeah, proper.
08:31What happened?
08:32Right, when I went live, me being me,
08:34ironing my clothes for today, yeah, right,
08:36I've gone live on Facebook.
08:37You iron that?
08:38I don't care!
08:40I want to know what happened!
08:42Yeah, right, I've gone live on Facebook,
08:44Daniel...
08:47Right, Daniel's gone, Daniel's obviously in the background, right.
08:51Who's Daniel?
08:52Daniel.
08:53Oh, right.
08:54Daniel's in the background,
08:55didn't know that I was live on Facebook.
08:57Is he doing the ironing?
08:58No, he was in the bathroom somewhere.
09:00Right, on this live video, right,
09:02he's in the background talking, right, yeah,
09:04and I'll be honest...
09:05Where was this?
09:06Last night in the hotel room, yeah, he was talking...
09:08You were live on Facebook.
09:09I was talking to my contact list on Facebook, yeah, right.
09:11Live.
09:12He's in the background, but he didn't know that I was live, right,
09:14so he started talking to me, telling me
09:16that he believes Jess has cheated on him
09:18and that he's going to make an admission on stage today
09:21saying that he kissed a girl.
09:23Oh!
09:24So you did kiss a girl?
09:26I only brought it up yesterday before that line.
09:28So, obviously, I'm live on my phone, yeah, she's watching it,
09:31he said, oh, I've kissed a girl,
09:33well, obviously, cos she's watching it,
09:35she's coming into the hotel room then, Jess,
09:37so she could not have it, as you'll find out.
09:39What happened?
09:40Well, obviously, she must have obviously rang the show and that lot
09:43cos he's bang on her line to take the test now.
09:45Do you know what I mean?
09:46What's your name?
09:47Curtis.
09:48I love you, give Curtis a round of applause, I love him.
09:50CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
09:53Right, anyway, so...
09:55Right, so let's get this absolutely straight,
09:57you've got a mate with you today, haven't you?
09:59Have you got a mate with you? Yeah, Beth and I.
10:01Who? Beth and I.
10:02Let's get Beth on the Jeremy Carr Show, she's coming out as well.
10:05CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
10:12Hello.
10:13You're best friends with Jess? Yeah.
10:15Now, what's really interesting is he says, and I quote,
10:17I found messages on her thing saying,
10:19baby, I think she's a cheat, she's got a bit of a reputation,
10:22then apparently on a Facebook chat, it was live last night, wasn't it?
10:25Yeah, yeah.
10:26Apparently, he admitted to kissing a bird on Halloween
10:29and you were with him at Halloween.
10:31How did she respond?
10:32I mean, that makes you think all sorts of things.
10:34What's the story? Help me out, Beth.
10:36Basically, he was on live on Facebook.
10:38Oh, Christ.
10:39LAUGHTER
10:41CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
10:47He admitted...
10:48Are you the father of her baby?
10:50No, I'm gay.
10:51You're gay?
10:52Yeah, I am gay, yeah, but...
10:54Good job. These two ain't got no kids, eh?
10:56LAUGHTER
11:00I mean...
11:01Sit there, sit there.
11:03Just sit on the step, just take your time.
11:05What's the story?
11:06Basically, he admitted to kissing some girl during Halloween
11:10when Jess was with him.
11:12But he thinks she's a cheat, has she cheated?
11:14No.
11:15So you think this is all a smokescreen cos they've both done loads of it.
11:18He's believing other people, basically.
11:20I mean, me and her have boy mates and everything.
11:23I mean, we've got the same boy mates.
11:25Oh, listen, there is a lot of rumours going around, though, Jess R.
11:28That's why I'm here, mate, listen.
11:30Listen, I weren't even in that caravan, mate.
11:32Listen, but since I've come back off this holiday, yeah, wow.
11:35I'm glad I weren't in that caravan.
11:37That stuff won't be happening while I was in it.
11:39And we were kissing as well.
11:41Cos it was live as well, wasn't it?
11:42Last night it was.
11:43Shall we, with Dodge, shall we...
11:45I don't know Dodge, I've never met him, ever.
11:47Why don't you ask William for his lie detector results?
11:50Cos if she's the liar...
11:51This is television, right, this is not Facebook Live.
11:53What we're going to do is, right, we'll do the test results for him,
11:56cos he's obviously going to pass.
11:57We'll go to a break, build the audience up,
11:59we'll come back, she'll fail.
12:00Ask William for his results.
12:02William, can I have his results?
12:04LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
12:12Can I have your results out?
12:14You...
12:15I wouldn't replace you.
12:18Amazing.
12:20I haven't had a very good time recently,
12:22I'll probably lose this job as well, it's great, thanks for that.
12:25Oh, shut up!
12:27Right, you all right, Steve?
12:29Steve, Steve, everybody talks about Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve.
12:32You've changed as well.
12:33Where we're from, it's about grey and worse, grey and worse, man.
12:36It's all about grey, grey, grey, grey, grey, grey, grey, grey, grey, grey, grey, grey, grey.
12:43So you think this woman's a cheat?
12:46Right, listen, I didn't think she was...
12:48I thought she was telling the truth until yesterday.
12:50At the start of the test,
12:51Dan admitted to kissing another woman on one occasion on Halloween.
12:53He says he thinks Jess knows about this.
12:55We've removed this from the test. You happy with that?
12:57Yeah.
12:58So we asked Dan, during your relationship with Jessica,
13:00apart from the one occasion you just admitted to,
13:02have you passionately kissed anyone else?
13:03Your mate said no. Do you know why he said no?
13:05Hopefully he was telling the truth.
13:07You're a liar, pal, aren't you?
13:09Listen, no, no, no, no, face it, Jess, face it.
13:12And I'll tell you something else.
13:15He failed every single question, mate.
13:18Go and have a break. Back in a minute. Come on, mate.
13:22Don't point the camera at me. Point it at him.
13:24He's doing the show. It is him.
13:26I don't believe you.
13:28Come on, mate.
13:29I kissed you last night.
13:30It was only last...
13:31He's just done it.
13:32I didn't have sex with anybody.
13:34I'll tell you, your time's changed better than that.
13:40He needs to fix up.
13:41He ain't got a job, you don't sign on,
13:44he takes the missile.
13:45He's paying for everything.
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14:26He failed every single...
14:27Excuse me, where are we? Where is she?
14:30You failed, you little liar.
14:34Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
14:36Hello?
14:42I told you he would fail from the start.
14:44I said that before.
14:45I don't have to point the camera at me, point it at him,
14:47he's doing the show, it's him.
14:49Just let him do it, go on.
14:51Take him to task, the lying little...
14:53Right, I'm your mate, yeah, obviously, you know this, yeah,
14:55but I told you yesterday, yeah, in the taxi, two and a half hours,
14:58I told you yesterday, if you bring her up here and humiliate her like she...
15:03If you bring her up here and humiliate her the way that you do,
15:06right, yeah, we're going to...
15:08Right, it's not even about him, yeah,
15:10cos this don't affect me whatsoever, right, yeah,
15:12you obviously need to start talking to him, right, yeah,
15:14and telling him how you feel.
15:16You lied, didn't you?
15:17I lied, I don't believe you.
15:19Come on, mate, you had sex with my wife.
15:21It was only last...
15:23He goes to that test a lot, he's just done it.
15:25I didn't have sex with anybody.
15:27I told you last night, if you are hiding something,
15:30you need to tell her.
15:32The only time I kissed someone is when I was in town.
15:34I haven't cheated on her.
15:35That wasn't on Halloween?
15:38David, I'm good at this.
15:40There was another incident, yes?
15:42It was round about that time.
15:43Come on, mate.
15:44I knew last night you was lying, yeah, right,
15:46sorry for saying it again.
15:47I knew you was lying yesterday from that live video.
15:49Could we ask...
15:51I haven't had sex with anyone else.
15:54But something happened with somebody else.
15:56You know what happens if you go in that test?
15:58So a five-and-a-half-month relationship, hold on a second,
16:00that was based on you, oh, I don't trust my girlfriend,
16:03basically comes down to the fact that you came here
16:05and you admitted on one thing before you did the test
16:07and you failed, which makes you a liar.
16:09And you can do better than him, and I'll tell you exactly,
16:11I'll bet you any money I've done this.
16:13I said this last night, I said this to everyone.
16:15I know you did when you were live.
16:16Listen, he's going to spin round on you,
16:17she's going to tell the truth, you've lied.
16:19Telling the truth on every single question, mate.
16:21There you are.
16:23Listen, do you know what, I'm so sorry for everything.
16:25Everyone's saying to me, OK, you're clean, you're OK.
16:28Listen, I'm going to say it now, I'm going to admit,
16:30and I'll still be your mate after today,
16:32cos it's been...
16:34You're better than that.
16:36I'll be your mate, don't affect my life whatsoever, yeah,
16:38but I tell you, you're 10-10, you're better than that.
16:42Let's hear from him.
16:44Let's hear from him.
16:46You're going to stay with him, though, aren't you?
16:48Five-and-a-half months is 22 weeks.
16:50Like a weasel, he thought if he came here and admitted one thing,
16:53that would excuse him.
16:54We took that out, he failed again.
16:56That's twice in 22 weeks.
16:57And you haven't even got the courage to say anything to her, have you?
17:00I'm not going to stay with him now.
17:03You will.
17:04But you are worth more than that, darling,
17:06and I can do this every single day of my life and say to people,
17:08you know, you ain't in the bar where you want to end up.
17:10You're better than that. He's right.
17:12You are a liar.
17:14Nothing happened with the...
17:16Nothing happened with the cousin.
17:18That was a smoke screen for your inability to keep it in your trousers.
17:21I hope, when we've spoken to you, you see the sense and do the right thing.
17:24Nice to meet you.
17:25Well, anyway, liar.
17:27What a pleasure.
17:29And Graham, this is all...
17:32Can you let go of me, please?
17:34Oh, look. There we go.
17:37See you in a bit. Give him a round of applause. Bye.
17:45Right, back to my show.
17:47Right, the next guest, Delaney, is here to confront her sister's boyfriend,
17:50a man whom she describes as a serial cheat
17:52who her sister is better off without.
17:54Now, Delaney says she hates her sister's boyfriend, Kieran,
17:57but he's already confessed to cheating on the sister four times.
18:00Ooh!
18:01Delaney says, once the lie detector exposes him again,
18:04then she will be insisting the sister Bethany leaves him and goes home with her.
18:07But he's already cheated four times and the sister's forgiven him.
18:10Delaney says, time to wise up, love.
18:12Delaney's on The Jeremy Carl Show, that way.
18:21Let me start with that. I know it's difficult, you're on telly,
18:23but you love your sister. You're 18 years of age,
18:25you hate your sister. You're older sister, Bethany. Yeah.
18:27She's not going to listen to you, mate. He's cheated four times.
18:30Why are we bothering with this? Four times, he's cheated and she's going,
18:33I love you. I know, it's ridiculous. It is.
18:36He needs to fix up. He takes drugs.
18:39That's all he does with his life, is take drugs.
18:42He ain't got a job, he don't sign on, he pays for nothing.
18:45She's paying for everything. It's a joke.
18:47You've saved money for years, he used to be a nice lad,
18:50but six months after he got on my sister, he changed.
18:52Yeah, definitely. Why didn't she listen to you?
18:54I don't know. Oh, love is a dangerous game. No, it's not.
18:58That's what she says. That's a song, isn't it?
19:01Steve, is that a song?
19:03Love is a dangerous game.
19:08Love is a...
19:10battlefield.
19:12Will? A losing game.
19:14Love on the rocks. Anyone else?
19:16Who? Never mind.
19:18Love's a losing...
19:19Love's a losing game.
19:22You need to get...
19:24Look at that.
19:26Why are you shouting at her?
19:28At least I didn't...
19:30At least I didn't...
19:32You've got a kid, yeah? You've got a kid, yeah?
19:34There's not even one and you drag them on a...
19:36Sorry, sorry, do me a favour.
19:38Do me, do me a favour. What is your job?
19:40Oi, oi, get off.
19:42Go away.
19:47What is...
19:49There's no child. What's going on?
19:52Why would your sister listen to you today?
19:54I mean, patently, he doesn't like the truth.
19:56Is she going to listen?
19:58Is he crazy? Oh, my God, what?
20:00He spends all his money on drugs.
20:02He calls her names.
20:04He gets her to tie his shoelaces.
20:06Yeah, he does.
20:08They aren't good for each other. He treats her like rubbish
20:10and today we all help Jezza want Bethany to wake up, yeah?
20:13Shut up, little boy.
20:16After the break, he's coming out, she's coming out,
20:18he'll do a lie detector, he'll probably fail,
20:20she'll go, love you. How are we going to change her mind?
20:22I don't know, we need to knock some sense into her, don't we?
20:25Well, there's probably a verbal way of doing that.
20:27Hearings after the break, right back, don't go anywhere.
20:29Do you take drugs? No. Really?
20:31No. You admitted you took cocaine yesterday, you were.
20:34I smoke cannabis. You look like you're on a lot more.
20:36How many times have you cheated on her?
20:38Four times.
20:40Drug-taking, cheating, doesn't work.
20:43Come on!
20:49Blames you for the fact that he injects heroin into his groin.
20:54Yeah.
20:55Stop feeling sorry for yourself.
20:57I don't feel sorry for myself.
20:59Well, then find something in you to talk to these people
21:01instead of sitting there like a wet weekend.
21:05So this just in, and it's breaking news this morning, apparently,
21:08Graham, something big is happening in Media City.
21:10Yeah, let's find out what's happening from our weatherman.
21:12Welcome to the showroom, Mr Kyle.
21:19Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
21:26You've been...
21:30Come on, Ben!
21:32Get out of my studio. Get him out.
21:38Get off him, get off him!
21:41Come here, come here.
21:51We're on stage now.
21:56Get him! Get him!
22:11CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
22:14Welcome back to the break.
22:16The lovely Delaney here to say to her sister, Bethany,
22:18do you know what? Wise up, love.
22:20How old is he, him? 18?
22:2219.
22:23How many times has he cheated on her?
22:25Five, six, probably more.
22:27Drugs? Yeah.
22:28No job, sponges off her, slags her off,
22:31uses her like just an emotional rollercoaster,
22:34ain't good for her, and he's out there giving it large.
22:38Wise up, wise up. I hope he fails the test.
22:40Don't worry, I'll help you.
22:41Kieran is on the Jeremy Kyle show.
22:51What are you going to say?
22:53Why are you getting involved in my relationship?
22:56It's not a relationship, it's a joke.
22:58If I was that much of a bad guy, would your sister still be with me?
23:01Yeah, probably.
23:02Because she moves you out.
23:04If I was that bad, I'd do sports all the time.
23:06You are.
23:07You look like you're a lot more.
23:09How many times have you cheated on her?
23:11Four times.
23:14I'm honest, innit?
23:15How do you manage to pull four women, anyway?
23:18I don't even know me.
23:19You don't either, do I?
23:20I don't even know what I'm doing.
23:22This is a programme for...
23:24That's what you're on it, mate.
23:26You told my team, didn't you?
23:28I'm running away now.
23:29There's a level...
23:31Unbelievable.
23:33..too.
23:34A drug-taking cheat who doesn't work...
23:41Where are you going?
23:42I'm going wherever I go.
23:44I mean, wherever you're going. Where are you going?
23:46Off the show, I don't even know what we're on now.
23:48I can't understand what you're saying. What are you saying?
23:50I'm trying to... I want to go, innit, because you're trying to humiliate me.
23:53Don't you think...
23:54I don't know anything. She don't know anything.
23:56Yes, I do.
23:57Don't you think Bess deserves more than you?
23:59Bess didn't even ring the show. You wrote the show.
24:01Yeah, I did ring the show, because look at you.
24:03I don't want my sister with you.
24:05If she was that bothered, she would have rang the show.
24:07Where is Bethany? Can you just get... Where is Bethany?
24:09Get me Bethany.
24:10People running around this building.
24:12And you think she's fake.
24:13I know exactly what's going to happen.
24:15She's going to come out here and she's going to go,
24:17oh, I love... Where is Bethany?
24:19Hurry up.
24:20I don't even care, man. I'll go home.
24:22No, you don't care. That's your problem.
24:24You never care.
24:25Come on.
24:26Hurry up.
24:27What's all the harassment?
24:28You take 14 people...
24:30You do me a favour. Very nice to meet you.
24:32You've got this amazing sister who's sticking up for you
24:34and this drug-taking cheat.
24:36Can we have the truth? I know you're going to tell me.
24:38I'm stuck in the middle. I love him. I hope he'll change.
24:40Really?
24:41Why are you with this?
24:43Yeah, why are you with this?
24:47Is that the way you do?
24:48Yeah, I'm just not going to work.
24:50Why don't you leave me?
24:51Why isn't she leaving me?
24:53That's emotional blackmail, pal.
24:55I'm saying leave me.
24:58I'm saying leave me now.
25:00That's not what I want. I want you to change, Ciarán.
25:02Well, I'm not going to change.
25:04No, because you take me like I'm a morgue.
25:06I just said I'm not going to change.
25:07You spend my money.
25:08Yeah, I don't want your money.
25:09I tie your shoelaces in the middle of the street.
25:11I don't want you to tie my shoelaces.
25:12No, but you still get me to.
25:14I make you dinner every night.
25:16I do the dishes. I wash your clothes.
25:18I put food in your stomach and you just throw it in my face.
25:21Did you hear?
25:22You do nothing for me.
25:23Did you?
25:24Did you hear?
25:25Did you hear? Right, shh, shh, shh.
25:27Not you and me.
25:28Did you hear what he just said?
25:29That's how little he thinks.
25:30If you tell her what you just said...
25:31I don't want to be with you, any.
25:33So get your...
25:35and leave my house and stop spending on me.
25:44Ciarán, Ciarán, Ciarán, Ciarán.
25:48See, here's the thing.
25:49Here's the thing.
25:50You'll go back with him.
25:51You'll go back with him.
25:53I will bet anything in the world...
25:56Huh.
25:57At the start of the test,
25:58Ciarán admitted to sleeping with two other women
26:00on three occasions.
26:01So that's three.
26:02And also kissing another woman.
26:04So there's a cheating on four occasions.
26:06So we remove that from the test, yeah?
26:08Since the start of your relationship with Bethany,
26:10apart from what you've admitted to,
26:11have you passionately kissed anyone else?
26:12She said no. Why did you say no?
26:13I can't say the truth.
26:14You're a liar, pal.
26:15Guess what?
26:16Despite the four times,
26:17your sister was bang on, failed every single question.
26:20Dirty little druggy tramp.
26:23Come on, it's right, isn't it?
26:24Is it right, yes or no?
26:26I cheated on her because I don't want to be with her.
26:28I've told her so many times.
26:29Why are you spitting on him?
26:31You don't want to be with him?
26:32Yeah, sure.
26:33But do you know what's really interesting?
26:34That you haven't worked out...
26:35No, no, of course not.
26:36You're absolutely right if you don't...
26:37Oh, and she was telling the truth throughout the whole test,
26:39which means...
26:41So here's the thing.
26:42Here's the thing.
26:43Look at me.
26:44That's horrible.
26:45That's horrible.
26:46Because you could have...
26:47You could have...
26:48I'm talking.
26:49You could have stopped taking advantage and told her.
26:52Here's the thing that will make you better.
26:54Did he give you an STI?
26:56Do it.
26:57Do one.
26:58Get out.
26:59Get out.
27:00Listen to me.
27:01Listen.
27:03You get so...
27:06How do I put this?
27:07I get so depressed sometimes doing this job, right?
27:09I'm going to be completely honest.
27:10I'm 51 years of age.
27:11I know with my hand on my heart,
27:13as does this wonderful friend of yours,
27:15sister, I should say.
27:16Were you best friend as well?
27:17Yeah.
27:18Because of how you feel or how he's made you feel,
27:20you'll go back with him.
27:21I just want to...
27:22Just take one minute to listen to this.
27:25He's cheated on you five or six times.
27:28He doesn't work.
27:29He takes drugs.
27:31He abuses you verbally.
27:33He sponges off you,
27:35just as a woman,
27:36just for a minute.
27:38We talk about how the world's growing up
27:40and people want to be taken responsibly.
27:42There is no woman in the world
27:44that should be bending over
27:46and tying a man's shoelaces, ever.
27:48No, no, it's not even funny, it's disgusting.
27:52When you get into a...
27:55Sorry, what did you say?
27:58I'm a what?
28:03Let me explain you.
28:04You know that?
28:05Hey, guess what?
28:06You know what you just called me?
28:07At least they're useful,
28:08which is what you're not.
28:09Do one.
28:10Get out of my building.
28:12Get him out of my building.
28:14I don't want him back.
28:15Get him out.
28:17Sorry about that.
28:20The thing is we stay in relationships
28:21because we want to prove everybody else wrong.
28:24And we think we can change that person.
28:27Until you raise the bar.
28:29Not him, you.
28:31See, until you get to a point as a woman
28:34where you go,
28:35I'd rather be on my own
28:36than be with somebody who abuses me.
28:38When you're alright with that,
28:39however difficult,
28:40because you've got people that love you,
28:41then the right person comes on.
28:42That is not a relationship.
28:43That is a one-sided abuse.
28:45And I promise you this.
28:46You probably will go back to him.
28:48But she's the best thing that you have in your life.
28:50And if you listen to her,
28:52I mean it,
28:53you're worth more than that.
28:55And self-worth and self-esteem
28:58take a long time.
29:02We're going to work with you.
29:03How's it like to come in?
29:05Hey, listen, listen.
29:06Listen.
29:07Look at me.
29:08Look at me, quickly.
29:09You passed the test.
29:10You're a good person.
29:11You're worth a million to him.
29:12We will look after you.
29:13We will work with you.
29:14Please raise the bar, yeah?
29:16We'll leave you at Kaz.
29:17Thanks a lot.
29:18Nice to meet you.
29:19Give him a round of applause.
29:25I hope she takes our advice
29:27and stays away from that boy.
29:29She can do so much better.
29:30Right, my next guest today, Jeanette,
29:31is here to confront her ex, Martin,
29:33whom she says has been a useless father
29:35to the two grown-up kids.
29:36She says Martin is a habitual liar
29:38whose web of deceit started 16 years ago
29:40when he had an affair.
29:41After Jeanette kicked him out,
29:42she says that Martin,
29:43just did what most men do, apparently,
29:45started using heroin,
29:47something Jeanette says he blames her for.
29:51Today, she says,
29:52ultimatum time.
29:53Sort your damn life out or we are done.
29:56The whole family.
29:57Jeanette's on the Jeremy Carr show.
30:07Very nice to meet you.
30:08I'm Keith.
30:09How are you?
30:10Nervous.
30:11Really appreciate being here.
30:14You and Martin, sort of in your early 50s,
30:16you say you're here to make him see the truth.
30:19Yeah.
30:20Which I think is very good of you
30:21when you hear this story.
30:22Let's go back.
30:23Married, two young kids?
30:25Not married, but living together.
30:27Yeah, two children together.
30:28What happened?
30:29He had an affair.
30:30How did you find out?
30:32Gut feeling.
30:34And then I caught them together in the car.
30:36In the car.
30:37Chucked him out?
30:38Yeah.
30:39No way back.
30:40Love this lady.
30:41Said, no way.
30:42After what we were just dealing with around the back there,
30:44you said, there's a standard, there's a level.
30:46I'm worth more than that.
30:48He's gone.
30:5315 years ago.
30:5415 years ago.
30:55Now, he said, I want her back.
30:56I made a mistake.
30:57And when you said, do one, not interested,
30:59his life spirals out of control.
31:01What's been happening?
31:02Heroin.
31:03And he's turned his back.
31:04This is the important thing on his kids.
31:06Yeah.
31:07You had a child, Melanie, already, who he was bringing up.
31:09I've got three older children.
31:10I've got five children altogether.
31:12Three older children and two were mine.
31:15And he brought the younger three up, the older three up.
31:17Yeah.
31:18So all of them have been affected.
31:20And he quite literally turns his back on them,
31:22has nothing to do with them.
31:23No.
31:24What's that done to him?
31:26Devastated.
31:27Especially my, his two.
31:29My daughter, youngest daughter.
31:31Ellie.
31:32Ellie.
31:33Ellie used to see him coming onto the estate, smack head, dirty,
31:39hiding on the park so he couldn't see her.
31:43All her friends used to, Ellie, look at your dad, look, smack head.
31:49You did what a lot of us wouldn't do,
31:51which says an awful lot about this lady.
31:53I don't want you back, but you took him in.
31:55I did.
31:56He stole from you?
31:57Yeah.
31:58He breaks every promise he makes.
32:00Yeah.
32:01He blames you for the fact that he injects heroin into his groin.
32:06Yeah.
32:07How does that work?
32:09Blame me for not having him back.
32:11What a weak, pathetic human being.
32:13Yeah.
32:15The kids.
32:16The kids.
32:17This is really interesting, and I wanted to pick up on this.
32:20You said he's causing problems,
32:22because are the kids blaming you for not going back to him?
32:25No, no.
32:28The arguments between me and my children is,
32:31you've got to be cruel, to be kind,
32:33and don't be letting him come to your house,
32:36don't be letting him see your kids, you know, make him go...
32:40Why would you want a smack head as a grandfather?
32:42Yeah, yeah.
32:43And if you push him away, push him away, push him away,
32:46he might do something about it.
32:48Ellie, the youngest, went round to his house with a young kid,
32:50didn't she, was knocking on the door for ten minutes,
32:52and she thought he was dead.
32:53Yeah, yeah.
32:54So you're hard with him?
32:56Yeah, yeah, definitely.
32:57Good for you.
32:58Yeah.
32:59Who rang the show today?
33:00My daughter, Melanie.
33:02That's...
33:03Mellie and Elle did it together.
33:05Why?
33:06Because they want their dad back.
33:08It's his choice, right?
33:09Yeah.
33:10All right, let's get him out.
33:11Martin's on The Jeremy Carr Show.
33:12Thank you very much indeed.
33:13APPLAUSE
33:23Why would you pick heroin over your kids?
33:25Don't know why I do it.
33:26Oh, there we go, the usual answer.
33:29Don't know why I do it.
33:30You had the affair, she got rid of you, deal with it.
33:33People deal with that, they don't take heroin
33:35and ignore being a parent, do they, for however long?
33:38You don't even know how lucky you are.
33:39These kids have phoned this show, desperate for you to get help.
33:41I'm thinking to myself, why aren't you man enough to be a father
33:44and phone this show?
33:45We've been here 12 years, and so I want my kids back
33:47and me life back.
33:49I don't understand it.
33:51Come on, talk to me.
33:53Why do people like you always blame her?
33:55That's not her fault, it's your fault.
33:56I don't blame her, I've never blamed you.
33:58I've never blamed you for it.
34:00I've never blamed her for it.
34:02Go on, Jeanette, be honest, he has, hasn't he?
34:04Yeah.
34:05If I only kicked him out, if I'd have had him back,
34:07he would never have gone on it.
34:09How bad is the addiction?
34:12Bad.
34:13Tell me, talk to me, come on.
34:15Win me over, show you've got something in you.
34:19Apart from heroin, why are you here?
34:23I want to do it for the kids.
34:25I want to do it for them.
34:26Oh, well, now, 16 years down the line,
34:28what, the fact they've had kids and got on with their lives
34:30and they're too embarrassed to want to introduce their kids
34:33to a grandad who's a smackhead?
34:35That's the truth, isn't it?
34:37Yeah, it's the truth.
34:38Look at those girls.
34:39Turn round, then have a look.
34:43You think you deserve to be in their lives.
34:45Look at that kid on the right, 20 years of age,
34:47her mates go, your dad's a smackhead.
34:49There's Melanie.
34:50You were her father.
34:53Nothing.
34:54Melanie, can you come out here,
34:55give Melanie a round of applause, please?
35:07Mel, welcome to the show.
35:08He's not your father, but he brought you up.
35:10I want you, not me.
35:12Tell him, talk to him.
35:14If you don't do it now, you're never going to...
35:16Sorry.
35:17You're never going to do it.
35:20I know, Rob.
35:21You lie in the arguments that you cause between all of us.
35:25Between all of us?
35:27You don't know when...
35:28You don't know that you're even lying sometimes
35:31and we all argue.
35:33You know, you come up days to the house and it's not even...
35:37You're not yourself, it's not you.
35:39It's not the Martin that we all know.
35:41What did he used to be like, Mel?
35:42What about when I let you lodge last year, a year before,
35:45and you told the kids it was my fault
35:48that you lost your job
35:50and that I, you know...
35:51Go on, Martin.
35:52I was causing all the arguments between me and you
35:55so you couldn't stay there any more.
35:58And I let you back living there.
36:00And you stole off her, didn't you?
36:02I have done, yeah.
36:03You stole her off Mel?
36:04No.
36:05No, he's never stolen off me.
36:08How much do you spend a day on drugs?
36:1020, £30.
36:11Where do you get that from, do you work?
36:13No.
36:14Oh, I have done.
36:16But I couldn't keep up the jobs because of the addiction.
36:18Didn't you steal the family's Christmas money a few years ago?
36:21No, I didn't do that, Jeanette.
36:24Money.
36:25Why do people like you go, oh...
36:27I found you in the facilities.
36:29Face it, mate.
36:30You're spending it.
36:31Face it.
36:32Stop feeling sorry for yourself.
36:34I don't feel sorry for myself.
36:35Well, then, find something in you to talk to these people
36:38instead of sitting there like a wet weekend
36:40because nobody's going to help you
36:42unless you try and work out how to help yourself.
36:44I'm going to a break.
36:45Back with the other doors in a minute.
36:47If you don't get in that car...
36:49That's it.
36:50Even if you get in that car and you don't stay till the end,
36:53don't come home to it.
36:55Don't worry no more.
36:57Let's hope that you'll get some tally up to you, mate.
36:59You'll never have a bag of heroin again.
37:01It's up to you, pal. You don't have to get in here if you don't want to.
37:10Thank you very much indeed. Welcome back to the show.
37:12Jeanette, Mel and Martin.
37:13Martin, nothing. Just give us... Nothing! Come on!
37:16What do you want me to do, Jeremy?
37:17I want you to tell them why you've done what you've done,
37:20what it's like, how you want to change, what makes you tick.
37:24Or do you want to be dead?
37:26Cos that's what's going to happen.
37:28And I've got to go and tell my two young children
37:32that their dad is dead.
37:34And you think... Because of heroin.
37:36And you think she's being harsh, mate.
37:39No, I don't.
37:40What about the grandkids?
37:42Well, I've no answer to it.
37:44Why do you keep doing it, then?
37:46It's why I'm here.
37:48You didn't ring the show, though, did you, Martin? No.
37:50Having your backside wiped again by your kids.
37:52Your youngest... Is Ellie his youngest? Yeah.
37:55He's an amazing girl.
37:56This girl has to walk through the town
37:58and her friends go, see your smackhead father.
38:01They haven't worked out at 20... Oh, here we go.
38:04Go and get another bag, eh?
38:05Elle is on The Jeremy Carr Show.
38:07Give her a round of applause. Massive.
38:09CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:14CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:20I can't talk now.
38:26Ellie, welcome to the show.
38:28Why are you here?
38:30Cos I want my dad back.
38:34We all do.
38:35He was a good man, a really good man.
38:38They are? Look at the picture.
38:40What happened, Mark?
38:44Got lost, eh? Yeah.
38:46Do you know what you're doing to yourself?
38:48I'm killing myself.
38:49Do you know what he's doing to himself?
38:51This is quite shocking and quite upsetting.
38:53If you watch that VT we sent him to Dr Ghosh.
38:55Just watch this.
38:56So I've just seen Martin in the clinic today.
38:59Now, Martin is 51 years old and on the surface may look very well,
39:03but it didn't take long before we dug deep
39:05and found some very serious medical issues.
39:08I was really concerned by Martin's legs.
39:11We found on the examination that he's used all the veins up
39:14and he has peripheral vascular disease.
39:16The legs are swollen, tender and infected,
39:19and he has ulcers which are not healing.
39:22If Martin doesn't get help and stop using these drugs,
39:26without a doubt, he's going to lose one, if not both, of his legs.
39:33Who's going to care for you then, Mark?
39:36Your 20-year-old daughter, your 34-year-old stepdaughter?
39:39If he doesn't sort himself out, we won't.
39:41We're not taking him. We don't want to take him.
39:43You will, though, won't you?
39:45No, I won't.
39:47Tell him. Talk to him.
39:49You know I won't, Dad. This is it now.
39:51APPLAUSE
39:55When you were a kid growing up,
39:57what's it like knowing that your dad is an embarrassment?
40:00It's embarrassing for me.
40:02It's horrible.
40:05She's got to run and hide under the slide on the park.
40:09Because her smackhead dad's coming on the estate.
40:13Some people watching this might think she's harsh.
40:16I think she's absolutely spot-on fantastic.
40:19APPLAUSE
40:21You, you, you had the affair.
40:25That didn't mean that you should stop being a father.
40:28This girl grew up, this girl grew up without their father
40:31because he chose heroin over them.
40:33That's dreadful. I know it is.
40:35That's the reality of it as well.
40:37There's no, you know, that's it.
40:41You made the choice that we are now trying to fix.
40:45Have a look at the screen, Mark.
40:47I unconditionally loved you.
40:49Why's your head in your hand, Mark?
40:54Just be honest, Martin, for once in your life, just be honest.
40:57We've come all this way.
40:59Not just us, our children.
41:01Know what that card means? Yeah.
41:03Never again a bag, pal.
41:0512 weeks of hell. You can't handle that, can you?
41:07Yeah. Really? No, you can't.
41:09You need to do it. Tell us.
41:11Tell me, look at me, Dad, tell me you can do that.
41:13Tell me you can get in that car.
41:15I can get in that car. Tell me. Yeah, I will, baby.
41:17APPLAUSE
41:19I can do it. I can do it.
41:23If you don't, and if you don't get in that car...
41:26That's it.
41:27..even if you get in that car and you don't stay till the end,
41:30don't come home to us.
41:32APPLAUSE
41:34I think...
41:36I think you'd be one of the saddest statistics
41:38who I get a call in a week who says he's done a runner
41:40cos he couldn't handle it.
41:42No, I won't. You'll do it, won't you, Martin?
41:44Yeah. Promise. I can't do a runner, Jeremy.
41:46Do me a favour, actually, right here and now.
41:48Sorry to upset you. If you ain't doing this,
41:50don't even bother getting out of that chair cos I'm sick to death
41:52of helping people who don't want to help themselves.
41:54I'm doing it. You know what, Mark, you don't have to do it.
41:56Don't do it. I'll do it. I'm doing it. Really?
41:58That's why I'm here, to do it. Why?
42:00Because of these, I love them.
42:02Well, then, tell them.
42:04They know I love them. No, they don't.
42:08Love yourself more, though, don't you, Martin?
42:10What, this? I love this.
42:12Oh, we're getting somewhere now. Go on, then, talk to me.
42:14What do you not love about this? Well, look at it.
42:1651.
42:20Same age as you, innit? I don't know.
42:24Maybe. Yeah.
42:28You've got to do it. What's your life like?
42:30Tell me.
42:32Waking up.
42:34Trying to find gear.
42:36In any which way possible.
42:40What do you do to get it still?
42:42I have done.
42:44Dealt it, stole it.
42:46You're a dealer?
42:48I've done it, yeah.
42:50Tell my team you're a drug dealer. That's nice, innit?
42:52That's what you want from your dad, innit?
42:54You've got to stop and think about them.
42:56Well, you're going to find out, I hope.
42:58You hope? If you let me.
43:02What can I...?
43:04You're going to prove him wrong? I can prove you wrong.
43:06Not a chance. No, not at all.
43:08See you in 12 weeks' time, won't we?
43:10Yeah, got to what? We'll see you in 12 weeks' time.
43:12It's for these two, not for you, cos I genuinely don't believe you'd do it,
43:14and I will eat your pie. What?
43:16I don't care what you think. Don't you?
43:18I wouldn't be rude, though, mate,
43:20cos that's the best offer you'll ever get,
43:22and I'm giving it to you, so I'd be a bit more respectful.
43:24I'm proud of it.
43:28Come on.
43:32You don't even walk with your kids, do you?
43:34I'm embarrassed to walk with them.
43:36Why? Cos I'm...
43:38But this is the beginning of changing that.
43:40Walk with your kids. You came here, didn't you?
43:42You are going to walk with me, Dad, aren't you?
43:44That says a lot.
43:46Come on, let's do this.
43:48They love you, man. That's why they rang the show.
43:50We're going to do this.
43:58You know what, Mark?
44:00Yeah, go on.
44:02Anybody can change anything, but I've done this walk so often,
44:04and I'm going to be honest, mate,
44:06it gets on my bits... I know.
44:08..when we lay it out and people go,
44:10I can't cope, you know, three days.
44:12Look at her. Look at her.
44:14I love her. I love him. I do love him.
44:16You do? Yeah.
44:18You're not going to see him for three whole months.
44:22Three months.
44:24You really want to do this? Yeah.
44:26Dad, you're doing this. Thank you.
44:28Cos if you don't, you're not coming home to me.
44:30I know.
44:34Your kids are amazing, by the way, Mark.
44:36You should be thanking your ex-missus.
44:38Thank God I've got them.
44:40Jeanette is the reason that they're even here.
44:42All right, G?
44:46Martin, 12 weeks.
44:48Let's have some specifics for Martin, Graham.
44:50You're three months out of your life, or you'll be dead.
44:52I know.
44:54Did you hear what your daughter said to you on the stage?
44:56Three months.
44:58She said to you, I want my dad back,
45:00which basically means she wants the dad back
45:02that was the dad before addiction.
45:04Your dad back.
45:06He was to me.
45:08The dad that you've never been to me.
45:10If you don't engage with the service
45:12that we're providing today,
45:14she will get her dad back, but you'll still be in addiction.
45:16OK?
45:18And you have to look at what Dr Aaron Gove said to you.
45:20If you're still in addiction
45:22and you're still injecting into your legs,
45:24what he's saying to you is you will either lose one of your legs
45:26or both of your legs.
45:28So this is a massive decision for you today,
45:30but it's a decision for the better.
45:32It's a bad smile, Dad.
45:34Is it? I don't mean it.
45:3612 weeks PCP, whereabouts?
45:38Today, what you're being offered
45:40is a residential treatment programme
45:42in Luton,
45:44and it will go on for a minimum
45:46of three months.
45:48My problem with that is that I think
45:50you need to change your whole life
45:52on the back of that.
45:54This is not just about three months,
45:56and I have discussed that with you.
45:58This means that after three months,
46:00there will need to be some significant
46:02life changes, because the idea
46:04that you will leave this treatment service
46:06and go back to the situation
46:08that you're in now, that's not going to happen.
46:10OK? There are too many influences
46:12around you if you go back
46:14to that situation,
46:16and that promotes the likelihood of you relapsing again.
46:18So, this is a massive,
46:20life-changing decision for you.
46:22The decision is yours.
46:24You won't see them
46:26for three months.
46:28Best offer you'll get
46:30is entirely up to you, mate.
46:32You will never... By the way...
46:34You know you're going to do it, Dad.
46:36You'll never have a bag of heroin again.
46:38It's up to you, pal. You don't have to get in here if you don't want.
46:40Obviously you're going to get in, Dad. It's me.
46:42He's not joking with you when he tells you
46:44you will lose one of your limbs
46:46or two of your limbs. Yes or no?
46:48That's the reality. I'm busy.
46:50Yes or no? Yeah.
46:52I love you, pal.
46:54Get my stuff.
46:56It's all in my stuff, all right?
46:58Just go. Just go.
47:00I'll make you a challenge. The minute you leave
47:02there in three months' time, see if you can do it.
47:04You're going from here to there in three months' time.
47:06Come straight back here and prove me wrong.
47:08I'll eat humble pie in front of everybody.
47:10The day you leave, you don't go anywhere.
47:12You get in a car that I'll send and you come back here
47:14and say, Jeremy Kyle, I proved you wrong.
47:16Yeah, you're wrong. Am I?
47:18Yeah, you're wrong.
47:20I don't care if in six weeks you feel all right.
47:22If you come out before that time,
47:24you are not coming back to us. No way.
47:26Say goodbye. And do you know what you should do?
47:28Because you're not bad, I guess, underneath,
47:30is say thank you to this woman who kept this family together.
47:32Jeanette, that's what you need to say thank you to.
47:36Do it for the kids.
47:38See you, Mark.
47:40I'll see you soon.
47:42It's three months.
47:44It's all right.
47:46The best three months of your life will be when you think about it.
47:48Cheers, Jess.
47:50Plenty of reasons to do it, though.
47:52I know. I mean it.
47:54And it's going to be hard. It's going to be difficult.
47:56Go and do it for yourself and the kids.
47:58Get out of here. Go.
48:00Thanks, Jonny. Go.
48:08I think I might surprise you all now.
48:12I think you will do it.
48:14I wasn't going to tell him that, but I do.
48:16He's going to tell you, and I'm going to tell you,
48:18because you're amazing.
48:20You can't weaken the rings. Seriously.
48:22If you want your dad back, tough love is it.
48:24Graham has put this all together as ever
48:26with Perry Clayman, all right?
48:28Thank you so much.
48:30We'll support you. We'll let you know.
48:32Give him a round of applause. Stay there with Graham.
48:34Thank you very much indeed.
48:36Fingers crossed here we can achieve our answer this morning out of time.
48:38We'll let you know how he gets on in the next three months.
48:40I'll see you very soon.
48:42Take care. Bye-bye for now.
49:10.