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00:00Draymond was asked if this is rock-bottom. Why does this not maybe feel rock-bottom because we know the group that we have
00:05We know it's a connected group. We know it's a group. That's more than capable
00:09We just got some things that we got to figure out and we will be on ain't nobody won a championship in December. Mm-hmm
00:15Fair, but he also this is the same guy who talked about I can't even get up for Charlotte in February
00:20So, I mean, it's all young prisoner of the moment commentary, but he's right
00:25No one's ever won the championship in December. You can lose it in December
00:29I'm not saying they have but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that new New Orleans Pelicans will not win the
00:34Championship and it's December a good call. So they've lost the title and it's December. I'm not gonna fade the dibbers on that pick
00:40Okay, I wouldn't I'm hot. Well and and I'll
00:45attempt to do something here that I know is not going to work, but
00:49If you can't win a championship in December
00:52then maybe we start having this conversation in ways that don't include the idea of a
00:58Championship like that
01:00That's sort of and I know that I always
01:03Mm-hmm. I know I get a reaction when we do this, but this whole like championship or bust mentality
01:10it just doesn't it doesn't wash for me because you can't you can't win it in December or January or February and
01:17So I like the phrase that the Warriors keep using
01:22Get better like if we can do something that's gonna make us better
01:26We're gonna do it and maybe that leads to round one or round two or round three or whatever, but that's
01:33That's later that comes later
01:35And I don't know if that's necessarily the only measuring stick that we should use
01:41Like I want to see the Warriors just get a lot better. It's similar to the point. I made about the Niners yesterday
01:48Use these next three games to be
01:5149ers like start looking like the 49ers again play better. There's value in that
01:59even if it doesn't lead to a ring and
02:02Maybe Steph doesn't agree with that
02:04But I like whenever we've out we talk about trade possibilities, and I hear that a lot does that make you a champion?
02:11Well, I don't know. I don't know but it makes you better. Yeah, I would to me. That's that's worth it
02:18but there's multiple ways to
02:19get better and you can have the players that you have play better and you can get better that way or you can
02:25Trade the players that you have and try to bring somebody in and think that that's gonna have you get better
02:30I do think that the question was a little bit of a loaded one about rock-bottom if you're 14 and 12
02:37That's not rock-bottom. No, and I get it
02:4151 fine and you've lost 9 of 11 or you've lost, you know, 10 of 14
02:47Whatever you want to look at as the metric
02:49But this is not quote rock-bottom and when you lose a game like that
02:53You lose it and hopefully you're able to get rest and come back against Minnesota and be better
02:58I don't think that looking at this as rock-bottom is the real issue
03:02I look at what this team has been now for two and three weeks and I see a team that is
03:08Really flawed in a lot of different ways and when you have a flawed team a lot of times you can get rescued by
03:14Your superstar, but I don't think that this superstar now at 36 and almost 37
03:20I don't think that he's the rescue guy anymore. So I look at the overall team not as rock-bottom, but to me there's deep
03:28Disturbing trends about who this team actually is. I want to know what's wrong with the defense all of a sudden like these big
03:35143 and 144 this whole like they stink. They can't score. Maybe they're not good
03:39Maybe they are and then there's the youth and then there's the old I'm just like what happened to your defense
03:43You guys were playing really good defense the whole year and these last two games. You've been turnstiles. What happened?
03:50Yeah, that's what I would ask Draymond. You're the leader of the defense. What's going on out there? He'd be honest about that
03:57He'd be honest. Yeah, I do think a lot of it is live ball turnovers leading to easy shots
04:04And also the three-point percentage that they're allowing right now. They're not getting out to shooters and that's on them
04:11Yeah, exactly. I mean like I know that a lot of times they all the other team just got hot
04:15Well, you're making them hot because you're not guarding them close enough
04:20Dave in the city. Hi Dave. You're all willing to dibs
04:24Hey fellas, I got two things to say
04:27Starting with yesterday that loss is absolutely on Stephen Curry
04:31I mean he came out with no aggression at all
04:35He was just being so passive to his teammates and then when they went on run the Grizz
04:40I mean he has to find a way to quell that and kind of you know, maybe get to the line
04:45you know do something instead of just forcing a three and
04:49My second thing is I think with all the trade speculations
04:53I don't know if the players want to keep getting up every day knowing that they might be on the block or getting out of
04:58there soon
04:59so that might be a factor in terms of the second unit and
05:04If you are gonna make a trade, I mean go get Brandon Ingram
05:07You need somebody I could put up points run with the horses. I mean you go get him
05:12Yeah, Dave that like I'm not gonna disagree with your point. It's not gonna happen. Yeah. Thank you so much Dave
05:18I can't tell you how many different doors I've knocked on and they say the same thing every time the Warriors have no
05:26Interest whatsoever in Brandon Ingram
05:29Well, like every time someone brings him up
05:31I'm like I can sort of see where you're coming from but for a bevy of reasons they don't see it that way
05:37No
05:37I don't think that he is the guy and you know Steve Kerr had a chance to coach him and then he didn't coach him
05:42Cuz Ingram didn't really want to play and so I think that there's a bad taste in the mouth from that standpoint
05:47And I do think that if you're gonna add a player to this team and you're gonna keep Steph and Draymond
05:52It's got to be a certain player and that's why I was so excited about Dennis Schroeder because he does have a little bit of
05:58That snarling dog that toughness that edge that you need and that's why the Jimmy Butler thing is interesting to me
06:05Because Jimmy is cut from that same cloth where Jimmy Butler in the right spot would compete
06:11I think for everything that he would possibly want to win. Don't lose your Schroeder father
06:16One day lost it don't lose it. No, and I do like this one game and it was a stupid game
06:23Well, there was a stupid game and I just watching him play and I know it's gonna take time for him to get comfortable
06:29But some of the things he was doing are not things that we do here
06:32for example
06:33There was one time where he gets an offense it gets a defensive rebound and he's looking to push and he immediately
06:39Pitches it ahead to come on Looney on the wing. It's like we don't do that here. We don't throw the ball
06:45It's gonna take a minute
06:47So he pitches it ahead to come on and come on catches it at about 17 feet and immediately throws it back to Schroeder
06:54It's like dude, we don't do that. We don't throw it to me on the break. I mean you watched us
06:59I went to the lovely Christie's for dinner last night. Nice. She texted me
07:04Right. Thank you during dinner. She made those. I don't know like I hadn't gone over there yet
07:09And I was on the way and she was on her way home and she want to let me know she was home
07:13So that it was like, okay, you can come over. I'm home and
07:16And then I get another text right away as I'm on my way over there and it says warrior game sucks
07:22Switching to football nice. I don't know what time that came out. Uh, well the game tipped at 5 that must have been about 517
07:29well, a
07:30Five o'clock tip is actually like a 512 tear enough
07:35532. Oh, there you go. So don't lose your shooter fire that game sucked and it was over
07:41Immediately
07:43Immediately. Yeah, I don't think we got any data last night. I really don't we got some data
07:47I mean you could like not about individuals, you know what I mean agree like he like he blamed it on Steph
07:53Sure, Steph was terrible. You can you can do that. I don't think you ever lose by 51 because of one guy
07:59No, but I look at you know, if you want to talk about data
08:02I look at a team that was coming off of a well
08:06See they didn't play they played Sunday the 15th and before that they played Wednesday the 11th
08:10So you're talking about one game in nine days and that's what you come out with
08:16against the Memphis team
08:18doubling the arrival and they are rival and Memphis comes out of the locker room and they want a PCU and you
08:25Were down 13 to 2 and you showed almost no pushback and they got only worse from there that to me is the bigger
08:32Troubling sign where you had arrest you have a new player
08:36You've got just a two-game road trip and you're trying to snap out of a funk and that's what you come with
08:41I'm with you. I'm with you. It was very surprising
08:46We did Warriors live and I sat here and I'm like, this is gonna be an interesting one. Yes Reuter and you're rusted
08:51Let's see it. I mean they couldn't even they couldn't even hang in there till we got home, right?
08:58Aston traffic and that sucker was caught. Yeah, I got off Barton
09:02I got in the car and I was listening to Tim Roy
09:04I'm at 14 to 2 and it's like wait what and the Warriors are gonna take the timeout. They're gonna take the break
09:09It's an obliteration sensation. That was a buck T in the South Bay
09:14Hi T
09:16How you doing, can you hear me? Yep. Yeah
09:19Awesome. Um dibs. I got something for you. I love you, but my third point is directly related to your stuff
09:25Can't wait
09:27What are your first two points?
09:31First step is I think we need to define what we have and what we have is a
09:36Group that went out and tried to get marking in and Paul George didn't get them
09:40So they stacked the middle of our kind of talent pool
09:43So we're very middle heavy and what they're doing on a nightly basis is subbing five in five out
09:49And trying to beat teams with superstars with like an energized Kyle Anderson
09:54And he's good and some of those other guys are good
09:57But this league what's what's what's most apparent to me is that you need superstars to win gate to win in the postseason
10:05I can see this team kind of getting us there but in the postseason we'd fall flat because again, this is a star driven league
10:12secondly the thing I'm most leery of
10:15when I'm looking at talent is
10:18Guys that play well on losing teams
10:21I'm actually more
10:22Judgmental of them than I are of guys who don't play well on losing teams because those guys at least haven't shown their hand
10:28And when I look at a guy that averages 18 points for Brooklyn and they can't win
10:32His good just isn't good enough. That's no that that sounds negative
10:36But my I think my definition of Schroeder is he's a backup point guard
10:40He can he can mix in and out of the starting lineup a little bit
10:43But we just can't have a 6-1 guy in our backcourt
10:46and
10:47The third thing I want to say is if anyone thinks Steph Curry is out of the top 20 without electric
10:54He is and how he impacts the game. I
10:57Don't see that. I think that what's polarizing now is that there isn't a second or third option?
11:03All great teams have three great players and we have one
11:06So once it gets back to a more of a balance on that front
11:10I think you'll see stuff who has I will say lots of lateral movement, but he's still
11:16Able to kind of carry the torch in my opinion. Thank you both
11:21Put aside legacy tea and just look at this season this singular year and how he has played and I know he's going to be
11:28An all-star because that's what we do
11:30You get legacy all-star nods and the game is here when you look at his play and his performance so far through
11:3726 games
11:38He's not playing at an all-star level and I stand behind the fact that I don't think that he's a top 20 player in the
11:44League this year. Look at how he's played. He's played great at times, but his overall play
11:50He's taking a step back and it's okay to say that I'd love to we don't have time for the exercise because it's a long
11:56One I'd love to hear your 20 players who are better
11:59But yeah, here's like I I mean, I'm I don't see it, but that's fine. What's seven on Memphis last night?
12:06Okay, you're welcome
12:08Santi all Dhamma
12:09No answer. I I think I'll bring shangoon. This is this is about how we view
12:15Steph and stardom to me like again the romanticism of the NBA star. I
12:23Think Steph is fine. It's just a matter of what you're asking him to do
12:28I I don't care if he's top 20 or 21 or 18 or whatever
12:34He can still
12:37Absolutely play if the entire defense is not solely focused on stopping him
12:42That would be hard for any star any star
12:46Do you think if the Denver Nuggets Lou if they had no Jamal Murray and they had no Aaron Gordon and they had?
12:53Like there was nobody and there's no Porter jr. And and and five guys could just be like, okay
12:59I got the right shoulder. You've got the left shoulder. I'll take the left ankle
13:04You get his forehead and I'll get the right ankle. He's not doing anything
13:08He'd still hit you for 25 maybe and Steph does to Steph is averaging almost 20 like what 22 a night?
13:15Yeah, like my point is is he just whether you want to call him a 1 a 1a is he a 2a?
13:22Well, he's there one. They have no to that's the point
13:26Well and Tito it was all these good teams have three good players
13:30Need more good players the Warriors would need to great good players, right? You can't get two players
13:37Yeah, I do know that don't yes, I do
13:39You know, you're gonna go out there and trade for two elite players just because you want they don't need to be elite
13:46They do need to be good. They need to be good. They need to be better than good
13:51Yeah, they need to be effective on both ends of the floor. I am still a believer in team basketball
13:56I like you see some champions do it by team basketball. I know in our minds
14:02We want every championship to be like Jordan dog Nike trophy. It's not always like that, man
14:09You can be a group how we used to call this group strength in numbers, right?
14:13And even when Steph was the one there have been other ones or well
14:17You had Hall of Famers alongside and now you don't
14:21Draymond green and a bunch of bit players and you look at all the other good teams in the Association
14:26They all have two and three really good players
14:29They won a championship two and a half years ago without anybody else playing at a Hall of Fame. That is ancient history
14:35I understand it is but I'm talking about the the way a team is built
14:40That was a team that had a lot of good players including Jordan pool none
14:45Clay Thompson none great clay was not great anymore and Andrew moonlit as like he was great
14:52He was very very good. It was great. He was an all-star that year, correct?
14:56And he was great. That was not he was not whole
14:59Was great during the regular year. He averaged 20 a game and mid in the playoffs. But anyway, yes, that's the point
15:05Yeah, they had a bunch of good players. They could turn and now they don't right
15:09So and I don't think that you're able to go out there and just turn key and get two other really good
15:14No
15:14I urge you to help this team
15:16But you go get one more or one and a half more and then you watch how some of the ones you do have get
15:22unlocked again
15:24Potentially potentially I don't know if it's gonna work. I'm just at the mindset of try
15:29Well, I'm of the mindset that it won't work and I'm not buying it and I look at what this team
15:35You've got Draymond green going out and not scoring assisting or rebounding over the course of a game and I understand it's a small sample
15:42Size, but that to me is an alarming
15:46performance where terrible night for you four fouls and you do nothing and Steph doesn't even get a
15:52Singular basket Zorro night. Yes, bizarro
15:55But you've it's been more than just one bizarro night and back to that games
15:59You've given up a hundred and forty correct
16:00But that's the only thread like the Warriors against the Mavericks did not look like the threat has been losing
16:06That's been the threat understood
16:07So and if you look at how they're losing but losing games and unique and fun new way not like last night again
16:14There's that that has not happened quite frankly ever in their careers
16:19So I I'm just not I and I know that that's the way we all do things now
16:24We can watch like this is what's happened to Brock Purdy and his conversation. We could watch him for three years
16:30Win playoff games every year go to multiple NFC title games win a Super Bowl
16:35Then he has two bad games were like, I don't know
16:38I think we should trade him like we we get so focused on what happened last night. It's not last night last night
16:43You look at the red you go back to November 23rd losing other games by 50. It doesn't matter
16:49They're losing game understood. You lose the San Antonio and you lose to Brooklyn and you lose all these games, which is the point
16:56They've got work to do. They've got trades to make or or better play to get but I'm not gonna use last night as
17:04Descriptive of who they are all of a sudden it is indicative of who they are and it's a ticket once of
17:09One time I've been actually twice this calendar year where you've lost by 50 or more
17:14The Boston game was last March season in a different roster
17:17You're looking at a team that is losing games with more
17:21Rapidity more rapidly and you're talking about a team coming off almost a week off and you go out there and you give that effort
17:28I'm not just gonna dismiss it as a one-on-a-dism. Well, you should it's one game
17:33I can you can you can be totally angry about it, but I'm just saying
17:39This is more indicative of who they are as opposed to a plucky little start where you were able to cuff around
17:45Portland and Utah a bunch of times and the New Orleans team that isn't very good again
17:50You're you're come you're conveniently blowing off a list of six
17:55Plus victories that they had in that sure and I could show you six negative losses over the last
18:01We can all pick and pop how we want to do it losing is fine
18:04I'm not gonna use last night as now this is descriptive of the Warriors describe the Warriors to me
18:09Someone just landed from the moon. Oh, they
18:12Usually Draymond and Steph don't register stats and they lose by 51
18:16Like literally the worst night of their career, right the descriptor is they're 14 and 12 and they're good at times
18:23They're bad at times and they're honestly
18:25They're a mediocre team with an aging group of stars and a bunch of role players around it. That's fair
18:32That's who they are. So fix it. You can't fix it. Yes, you can
18:36I don't think you can fix it
18:37You can try and you can shovel the future into the trash because that's what so many people want to do
18:42That's an overstatement
18:45You can light the whole future on fire with kerosene if you want. I personally don't want to do that. What?
18:52future
18:54What is this story that you've all built in your heads first-round picks?
18:59Are those nuts are those not potentially actually good players?
19:03Sure, although with Steph Curry a first-round pick once upon a wonderful math brain like yours. It's
19:09Fascinating the way you're fixated on first-round picks yet. You haven't done the exercise to lay out what that
19:17Mathematically is I bet you it's a single-digit proposition in terms of being a great player as far as the percentage
19:24Yeah, well the first-round pick there's two different things
19:27There's the lottery first round and then there's the rest of the which you will have no idea what you are until you get there
19:33Well, you're looking like a lottery team again
19:35And last year you were and you didn't have the pick because you had previously traded it to try to build up a roster
19:41Which is fine because actually paid off
19:43Yeah, but not like I mean you're talking lottery in the teens, which is different than lottery in the top five
19:48It depends on who you get Steph Curry was a six pick. I believe thanks six overall like seven. Yeah