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00:01Warriors live will come to you at 6 Tim Roy will be on the call and the Warriors are
00:079 and 18 in their last 27 or 21 and 21 overall and the Sacramento Kings have won 9 of 11
00:15Yeah, Doug Christie has taken over for Mike Brown. So the Kings are playing well, the Warriors are not and
00:23This is a CSPN game tonight to partner. So it's Saturdays against the Lakers here at home
00:29That's on ABC Evan on the pre and post tonight
00:32But study and we know this in sports when the team fires a coach you get that jolt
00:37But Sacramento's got too much talent. It didn't match their record under Mike Brown
00:41So I thought they'd be a problem and now they are and how do the Warriors win this game?
00:48Bobby marks, he's ESPN's front office insider and he went on a podcast with Kevin O'Connor and
00:57Was talking about the Warriors and he had some very interesting things to say
01:02and
01:03and the big one to me is that
01:06this is gonna become the talk of the league if it isn't already and
01:12He thinks it's coming to a head in the summer, but just do take a listen to this
01:17As I'd love everybody to do. I think there is a moment of truth
01:22Moment where you do have to sit down with curry in the offseason and say this is where we are
01:28and this is where your our options are going to be and
01:32You know this there's never a guarantee that someone's going to be available
01:36They could be waiting forever that Giannis could be you come available
01:39I mean good want to go out and you want to go again?
01:42You want to go out and get the two hundred and forty million dollars?
01:45Let's left on Joel and bead like is that what you want to do?
01:48The hardest thing to do is like, you know
01:51and I thought they did a pretty good job this offseason with you know post clay and healed and
01:56Anderson and melt in and that crew and kind of patching as much as they could together here and I got off to a good
02:03Start, but what we're seeing right now. This is a team. That's and that's gonna be in the lottery
02:09Bobby my man Cooper flag, but man, let's hope he's wrong
02:15Does it look like he's wrong well right now they're 500 but they're on the outside of even the playing in
02:20But I'd say Stein and give me 10 to 15 more. I mean, that's a long
02:23that's a lot of games, but give me 10 to 12 more games and and
02:28See where they're at when cominga gets back
02:30But could you imagine following up a season in which you didn't make the playoffs and now you're a lottery team
02:37Well, and this is curry great, but hold on a sec
02:40Right, but hold on a sec and this is where this is where I'm gonna go back to some original sound
02:47Because you're saying can you imagine if they missed the playoffs two years in a row?
02:52But this is the guy who covers the team
02:55Well, man, you probably have to buckle up for the next five years or so
02:59And then you know you look around and I'm not necessarily directly comparing it to these dynasties
03:03But you know look at like the Patriots, you know and like this little dry spell
03:07They've had to deal with and you know now they got Drake May and you know, maybe I don't know
03:11They had kind of had a bad draft, I guess, you know, I don't fall for both like, you know, too intensely
03:15But you know, they're kind of probably have a four or five year stretch here
03:19We're gonna be one of the worst teams in the league at this first. Okay, obviously they with the Kawhi Leonard pick
03:24They kind of had that to timeline expansion of it
03:26But then they had to eventually hit the the patch where they became a lottery team for for several straight seasons
03:31And you know, they struck gold
03:33They got the number one pick in a year of like I could have made the victor when we all my pig y'all could have like
03:37That wasn't some like unbelievable find they got the number one pick in a generational draft and and now they're on the rise again
03:43Let's say they didn't get that pick. Let's say they got even the number two pick in that draft the number five pick whatever
03:49They would probably they would their rebuild would be looking very elongated
03:53So you're gonna probably have to get lucky in the future with the pics and you know, maybe something will materialize
03:59So, I guess that's because you I think one of like you're a fan and you represent a lot of fans
04:06and the glass is always half full but 99% of my life and
04:11And it's half empty for you. Would you say that that that's how we are, right?
04:15but I guess what I'm saying is what like
04:19That's it that's it. Okay, so I'm a pessimist you're an optimist and Slater's in the middle. No, no
04:26I'm gonna tell you what hurt me about that. You said that
04:29Steiny I like could you imagine if they missed the playoffs this year and it'd be two in a row
04:34Well, like my answer would be they might miss four times in a row and that's where I'm just blown away
04:40But why because I thought that clock or that that spelled that dry spell was gonna start when curry and Dre were gone
04:48I just assumed it bare minimum
04:51They would get to the playoffs and that's why I told D low about an hour ago
04:55I still hadn't gotten over on the playing loss Donny
04:58But for that five years to already be here with Steph and Dre
05:02I guess I just never in a million years imagined it could rot that way around it could erode
05:09Around them to where now this is I think the worst-case scenario what you talked about being in the middle
05:16Like now you got Dre and Steph champs that are no longer champs or I don't know how much velo
05:22They've lost on the fastball, but we can't come together and feel the team that could qualify for the playoffs
05:29not after a dynasty I
05:32Mean, let's go to uh, let's go to John John's in the city. So I get us going Johnny. What's going on my man?
05:40Hey, good morning, I was calling to follow up on something that was discussed yesterday with Brian Getz Tyler where he
05:48said
05:50that the Warriors could possibly get a first-round draft pick for
05:53Ramon yes, and
05:56Neither one of you guys
05:58Pushed back on that which I find to be ridiculous
06:01But you understandably went on some Canada rants about the geography of Canada
06:07Geography of Canada, which was apparently was more important. So
06:11Just wanted to call it about that and there's no way they can get a first-round draft pick for him
06:18And what are you basing that on
06:23Watching the game is
06:26history of being injured of being suspended
06:30He's old
06:31Hey, I'm with you in the line of Draymond
06:34Me the wrong way me, but we ain't got me
06:37I'll say this if you're a contender like the Bucks or one of these teams and all you need is a dog like
06:43Draymond and everything is rosy around him
06:46I believe he could take that team to the next level and that so if I didn't say that I would feel like a hater
06:53I get where you're coming from. But BG said at first and we did talk about Canada. What was that?
06:59What was that Jag off's name who just called?
07:03John hey, John
07:05Yeah, if you were a true pre p1, you would know that that was actually brought up yesterday
07:11By Evan on the air. He said I'm surprised you didn't push back on that. So in other words, you're just copying Evan
07:18What he said yesterday and I said look the guy was in the middle of a roll. Shut up, Evan. Shut up, John
07:25and
07:26You know what? Take it up with DLC
07:29But I do remember that sequence where you got Canada goo I
07:34Forgot why you went there because we had a caller
07:43You're on your computer talking about Draymond Green's value I met the criteria
07:48That's some of the greatest audio cuz it's the most pain ever
07:53It's not pain. I
07:55Was got bail pauses you seen him on TV now who Isaiah
07:59battling it
08:00He nobody's nobody exposed Michael Jordan like Isaiah did well Scottie Pippins making the rounds
08:07How many times you have dinner with Scottie throughout your career none?
08:10Well, you know what? Can I be honest? See this? I think so different than you
08:15What I wouldn't want to have dinner with Michael Jordan. He's an ass
08:20But he's your co-worker and supposed to be free and yes, so what?
08:25Michael Jordan's insufferable. God loves Scottie Pippin. I made it. I'm on Pippin side. Well the women like Mike
08:36Yeah, like I'm young
08:40Belichick I
08:42Told you guys as I get older. I have no problem with what Belichick and and Mike is dead
08:47Hey, I I am who I am
08:49I think there's a difference between a guy dating a 70 year old dating a 24 year old and a 60 year old dating a
08:5640 year old and I love you study, but don't you think if it was that bad there'd be a law
09:00That says you can't do that. Let people live their life
09:04No
09:06Let people live their life quit being so judgmental you've made it clear where you stand on this
09:13I think it's pathetic you don't
09:20Love
09:21Belichick have any kids can't do it. Yeah, he's got son
09:24He's on the staff. He's got his on the staff in North Carolina. You have a daughter that I don't know
09:32Next question I got I'd venture to guess he does I met the criteria
09:36He doesn't have a I get you man. He doesn't have a
09:42Daughter but
09:44More Bobby Marx, and then I want to kind of reset where we're at right here. We'll see
09:49I would think if
09:52You put curry on the open market
09:56With multiple years left on his contract
10:00You will get more and well you'll get more than what we traded for
10:06Those for Pearson Garnett, you will get you will get you will get like
10:13Mitchell go bear bridges type offers like
10:17Multiple multiple picks as far as far as what what could be available
10:24Wow, I agree
10:27So top-notch top of the line
10:30If you were to give nowhere fans don't want that to ever have to happen
10:33But if somehow some stuff went left, I mean man, I disagree
10:38I do disagree and the reason I disagree is because
10:43When and I have to look back on these deals, but let's just use the two or three picks for an example
10:49When you acquire Donovan Mitchell
10:52You're acquiring
10:53What you hope is a franchise meltdown and as age matches that when you trade for Rudy go bear
11:00You're trading for what you think is a 28 29 year old defensive guy who will anchor your defense
11:09McHale bridges is also a young player who you would think is going to be the cornerstone of your team for a decade
11:16When you trade for Steph Curry
11:19Essentially if it's gonna happen this summer you're paying for a guy for two years two years
11:25Daddy, who's to say that would be three years though. Well, you know what I mean?
11:29my point is I
11:31Shooter I absolutely
11:33positively do not believe that the Warriors could get a player of like go bear Mitchell bridges status and
11:42Three first. I I don't what if it were to first Donnie, wouldn't you do?
11:47Like you know what? I mean? He's the best shooter still in the game
11:51The team that would be acquiring him obviously has stuff around him to where he wouldn't be in the situation
11:59He's here right now where it's all on his shoulders, and I think that would prolong
12:04him playing basketball his shooting
12:07maybe the
12:08The number of shots he's gone down and we can argue to the cows come home on why that is
12:14But when the ball goes up the chef is still the chef so stunning
12:18I am thinking you could get that maybe not three but two and some two studs
12:25But the okay, let's first of all, let's look at some teams in the Eastern Conference
12:30so I
12:32Mentioned this team yesterday and the more I think about it. I don't think they'd have any interest leaves that Cleveland
12:37I have a young team right now and there's 36 and 6 in the regular season. Why would it?
12:44Guru, they're just emerging as a playoff team. I got just tiny but if you I believe if you swap Garland and Steph
12:53Boston would lay for the play
12:54They're two different seasons to me partner
12:56And if you had Steph to be worried about it would free up everybody else on that offense to wear
13:03Garland who you got one of the most
13:07Outlandish shooters in the game to go with what they might is if I'm the general manager the Cleveland Cavaliers
13:15I'm not giving up a lot for two years of Steph Curry. I I mean, I'm not
13:20We're only talking two years and you are building something there that could be like well like
13:28this
13:30Cleveland should be good for a little while you would think but what if it culminates with no chips Donny?
13:35They've been waiting for six years and they just couldn't get over the hump
13:39They get curry and then they win chips
13:41Like why would you just assume they're gonna win chips because they're loaded
13:46But if they they're not loaded in regard to having one of the best shooters in the game
13:50So if you add that to that record in the league, I got you Stoddy and that's regular season
13:56And I know they they were in the playoffs last year just starting to build something
14:00I got Cleveland right like I don't I don't they're all a they might knock off Boston this year study
14:05I don't think they are but what if they can never beat get past that thing of Boston?
14:10Why would you look you are on the road?
14:12Well, I'm looking to because if I acquire Steph we might be able to win the chip this year and next and if he plays
14:19three two year after
14:21Do you really think that they would be interested? I I swear I do
14:25Am I by myself if Cleveland gets bounced in the second round of the playoffs different?
14:29That's different. But what Bobby Marks is talking about is the summer. He's not talking about the trade deadline, right?
14:35so if this summer
14:37Cleveland wraps up a postseason run that falls a little short and they think that they're a player away
14:44That absolute that absolutely is something they have to entertain, right?
14:48But what I'm saying is if you get Steph Curry, there's a difference between getting girls on a contract for three more years
14:53So that Garland's only in a contract for three more. No, I'm talking about
14:57When you acquired Donovan Mitchell, you're acquiring a player for ten years
15:01That's why I don't think you'll get a lot of picks for Steph Curry because you're only acquiring him for two
15:08Well, but if you think you can win a championship then you're gonna mortgage however many picks because you're probably gonna be good
15:16But only for two more years like I I mean cuz Marx thinks he could fetch that study
15:22Well, my point is is he's using a 25. He's using three to 25 year olds and a 28 year old
15:29Versus like Steph who's gonna be 37 is all I'm saying like you're not getting a cornerstone
15:34You're getting a rental for dry years
15:37So that might keep what they want to give up on the on the backside down a little bit
15:43And I don't know how Cleveland feels about their future
15:47who like
15:49Orlando a
15:51Team like Orlando if they got I mean, I'm asking you
15:55But who do you want? They're not gonna give you Wagner or Boncaro probably so
16:01See that's the other thing if you trade staff, you're probably not gonna get the best player back
16:06You're gonna get a younger like, you know Jalen Suggs. I don't think he's a joke who else they have Cole Anthony
16:14Jonathan Isaac, he's a guy whose name's been brought up, but I don't want to lose step for that those type players
16:21Bobby Marx thinks that a hall
16:24with picks and
16:26Potentially young players what Curry could fetch right? I feel like we have to take him at his word
16:32No, I believe he thinks so. I just disagree with him
16:35Like I that's all I'm saying is I all I'm saying is I don't believe a package for curry
16:41Would fetch the three first-round picks that some of the younger guys who've been trained medically if someone did offer that
16:49So you take there we go. If you're like up Stiney. Well, I need to know the I need to know the who's this
16:55Who's the player?
16:57three unprotected and three pick swaps and
17:00Jalen Suggs is who the
17:03The package is built around you said the other day you like Jalen not like I like get Darius Garland
17:08Okay, then Darius Garland
17:10Your first I would do that. Yeah, I would do that
17:13I would do Garland and you know
17:16I know Garland would come with a couple players or two attached to make the money work probably so yeah, I would do God
17:22Yeah, I'd do Garland. Oh cool. See but I don't I'm not sure that I'm convinced Cleveland. I'd give all that up
17:28But yes, what I do premises. I would do I would do Garland Levert. Oh Coro and pick. Oh my god
17:34Yeah, and I think Steph could get you that would be
17:38Players over picks though. What's that?
17:40You'd prioritize players over picks if the players Darius Garland
17:45Who's a 25 year old who looks like he's emerging into stardom. He's a baller. You know what I mean?
17:51Yeah, but but if the point is to rebuild then don't you?
17:55Want to just lean all the way into it like the whole point of being competitive isn't really what you're going for. No, I
18:02Would I would absolutely do Garland and picks for Steph?
18:08For sure
18:10But I like I don't know that Cleveland would give up that much for Steph is all I'm saying where they're at right now
18:17it feels like
18:18you know, I mean
18:21I look at Cleveland and they look like you know what we we could be pretty good for a while
18:26So would they push all their chips into the middle for for two years?
18:32262 says Pearson Garnett both have lower numbers than their peak when they moved to Brooklyn
18:38So the Nets knew they had flexibility to build around them Curry's contract is way too prohibitive for any team
18:44Well, I mean they're gonna have to be given back the same amount of salary. So it's it's I I
18:50You know, I think it's doable
18:52But this is the other thing. Can we really talk about moving Steph Curry if Draymond Green is still here?
18:59Well, I think you can't have Draymond the last one. There we go, Stani
19:02I think if you're gonna part with Batman at that point everything's on the table and any players on the table
19:08What's that?
19:08I think if you are even having the conversation with yourselves inside the building of moving Steph
19:14Then everybody would be available including Draymond Green because if you're gonna go down that route
19:19I mean what would stop you from I mean
19:23Losing Steph compared to Draymond. Come on now. That's like night and day. What was a
19:28What did Evan do you remember offhand? What was it three picks in the Siakam trade?
19:33Yes, okay, three firsts and three players. Yeah, so, you know again like Siakam's a little bit younger
19:40So what could the Warriors get two or three first? I?
19:43Mean you're telling me they could get an emerging star in two or three first. Yeah, I'm in
19:49I'm in but like I still think I'm in the minority of
19:53Guys who would move Steph right now, and this would hopefully we don't find out but again
19:59If you say this, would you say their record was 37 and 45 and that's what they are. No playoffs, man
20:06I got to be honestly believe Joe Laker was like, you know
20:09What are we doing and what are we doing for curry and maybe curry might be like and I know Steve Kerr says he's not
20:15Built like that, but okay, let's have two
20:18We'll see because it seems like that's where the trick that's what direction the train is headed into no playoff
20:24No playoff like no
20:27And I get Stony the Dynasties over but is it too much to ask for a playoff?
20:32Appearance with Dre and Steph and Dre in year two of his new deal and this is what we get
20:38See the one reason why like I know a lot of people say well
20:41Lakers not gonna tell like Lakers this it like it's three like he put him in this spot
20:47Lakers Lakers the guy, you know, and I'm not saying they're they're like, you know
20:52Like they they shouldn't be in this spot, but they are that's not what I'm saying
20:57See, I like do I go back and forth on this a lot and that is you know
21:02I don't want to come here every day and say guys. It's the end of a dynasty
21:07You're not gonna win for a while
21:08But that is the way I feel like it's it's your foot you continued
21:13Continuing to fight an uphill battle after this Dynasties over and that's why it's like I don't want to know
21:19I don't want to come in every day and say guys you you're dreaming. You're dreaming. You're dreaming
21:24And so yeah, my question now is you missed the playoffs last year
21:29You're you're you might miss the playoffs this year. Is this is this dip inevitable?
21:35And also
21:37What am I paying you say people can say what they want about Joe Lake up the proof is in the pudding
21:42We talked about it this payroll what he's paying for and this is what he's getting in return, which is basically nothing
21:48Just imagine how he's feeling though, but he courtside watching this he knew this
21:53Well, I believe when he sighed Dre he thought he was gonna get that junkyard dog. He extended Steph Curry this summer
22:00Yeah, and I 62 million in two years like and that's a dynamic
22:05He's got a deal with
22:08Well, I would be disappointed if I'm Joe he made the moves