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00:00I think it's a good time to play this for y'all, and then we'll go back to the phones.
00:04Om Youngmasuk, ESPN NBA reporter, he is on the damn scene in Utah.
00:10We'll talk to him in a half hour.
00:13But, uh, did y'all hear this when Steve Kerr said this to us yesterday?
00:18Just yesterday.
00:20With the, uh, regard to the idea of doing a big ol' pile of nuttin' at the deadline.
00:28Well, I'm very comfortable if we don't end up doing anything.
00:32I think we live in a time where everybody wants the fix right now.
00:35And it's really not that feasible to look at our situation, where we are as an organization, the assets that we have.
00:45Is it really feasible to go and make some huge deal that's going to turn us into a contender?
00:52I mean, it's really, really hard to do that.
00:55At the same time, it would be insane to trade away all our future picks for a wild swing.
01:02We know that, Seth knows that, you know, I know that.
01:06So, I just think Mike is phenomenal at this job, and he needs the space to do it over the next couple of years
01:13without everybody freaking out and thinking there's some, you know, home run swing that's going to solve everything.
01:21Stop freaking out, Mark.
01:23I'm not freaking out. I know some of you are going to hate this take, but poor Steve.
01:27I mean, listen to what he's being forced to say the last two weeks.
01:32Number one, you're the coach of players who are currently there, and they may still be there.
01:37So, you better say that. I'm totally comfortable if we do nothing.
01:41Right.
01:42Yet, we could play for you in the next breath the 18 different times where he's been like,
01:46Dude, we're not good enough. We are not good enough, and so, clearly, we don't have the luxury of standing pat.
01:52He has also said that eight times.
01:55So, poor Steve.
01:57Right.
01:58He's got to say both things at once.
02:00And yesterday's interview was largely about the trade deadline because that's what is hot and newsworthy and newsmaking,
02:06and we asked him about Andrew Wiggins, and he's like, oh, yeah, Andrew's been amazing,
02:11which is why you hear his name out there all the time.
02:13So, Steve's well aware, and you even mentioned about the flight to Utah and the subsequent flight tonight after the game.
02:19Got another one tonight. Yeah, going to LA tonight.
02:21And the unease, especially if you're Dennis Schroeder, who is now eligible to be added into a trade.
02:27You can use him with other players as of today.
02:30So, if you're Schroeder, you might be going out there tonight thinking this could be your last game as a Golden State Warrior.
02:35You could, and by the way, we've had a couple questions because people are all canvassing the NBA injury report
02:41because Kevin Durant, for example, is out tonight, and people are like, well, that's funny
02:46because he played all the way into overtime on Monday night, and he looked fine.
02:50So, why all of a sudden is he out?
02:53So, people have been asking, what's going on with the Warrior injury report?
02:56Y'all want to hear it? Oh, yeah.
02:58And this is up to the minute now.
02:59They release it at the bottom of every hour.
03:01So, six minutes ago, they released a fresh injury report.
03:05Here it is.
03:06Moses Moody is out.
03:08Jonathan Kaminga is out.
03:10We knew that.
03:11He's actually hurt.
03:12Kavon Looney is available.
03:15Okay.
03:16Draymond Green is probable.
03:20Yep.
03:21And Andrew Wiggins is probable.
03:25The probables are interesting to me because those are the ones that you can just downgrade with a little snap of a finger.
03:32So, Andrew Wiggins and Draymond Green both pantied about quite a bit in the last 48 hours are on the report, but listed as probable.
03:40I'm interested, though, that Schroeder's not on here.
03:42Right.
03:43So, Schroeder's going to play tonight, and if he's in a deal, in theory, you'd be risking injury.
03:49But then again, let's be real.
03:50If Schroeder's in a deal, it's simply because he's an expiring contract.
03:53Right, his contract is in the deal.
03:55So, nobody's really actually all that worried about him.
03:57Yeah, that's a good way to summarize it.
03:58If he twists an ankle, it's okay.
03:59Wiggins and Draymond would be different because you'd actually be getting a contract and the player.
04:03And you'd want him to play.
04:04Right.
04:05And not that you don't want Schroeder to play, but the reason why his name is out there is because he's making $13 million,
04:10and that's an attractive salary to combine with other salaries to maybe land a big fish.
04:15888-957-9570.
04:18Everybody weighing in on the fact that Kevin Durant reportedly has said today,
04:24No.
04:25No.
04:26I don't want to go to the Warriors.
04:28Hell, Phoenix, you can send me somewhere else.
04:30Don't send me there.
04:32And how does that make you feel as a Warrior fan?
04:36For me, two quick things that it made me feel.
04:38A, it's a wake-up call that this is not the destination that you think it is because he's not the first one,
04:44and he won't be the last to say, no, thanks, I don't want to go there.
04:47But also a growing level of concern that this is the series of events that could lead to Steph Curry someday not wanting to be on the team anymore.
04:58If he feels like, well, everybody wants to play with me, they just don't want to do it here.
05:02Right?
05:03LeBron still wants to be in L.A.
05:05Durant's like, send me somewhere else.
05:07Jimmy Butler's like, no.
05:09Anywhere but here.
05:10I want to be a son.
05:11Like, if that keeps happening, that could definitely lead to Steph rethinking his standing.
05:17It could, but I do think that you're taking a little bit too big of a leap for me on the endgame of this or even that going a certain direction.
05:25Step one is all I'm saying.
05:27Yeah, but I don't.
05:28Step one.
05:29Step one of maybe 100, and I don't even know if this is step one.
05:32Until I see or hear things that are more indicative of him not wanting to be here, maybe it's an ostrich take and my head is in the sand.
05:40But I don't think that we're at that point.
05:42Even if we arrive at this point tomorrow and the Warriors have done nothing and the Warriors go to L.A. and they get crushed,
05:50until I see Steph actually take tangible actions, whether it's having an injury and he shuts down the rest of the year
05:57or you start to have word leak out or anything of that ilk, I'm not going to believe that this is step one toward anything.
06:05Fresh tweet from Casey Johnson, who covers the Bulls in Chicago.
06:10Legit reporter out there.
06:13He just tweeted this.
06:15What do you make of this?
06:17Warriors' focus has shifted from Kevin Durant to Jimmy Butler, per multiple reports.
06:22If the Butler pursuit fails, Nikola Vucevic, and since traded Zach Levine, had been on the Warriors' radar.
06:32But as of now, I'm told the Warriors aren't sure they'd pursue Vucevic at the Bulls' current asking price.
06:40I wonder what that would be.
06:43And if the asking price involves a first round draft pick, then I'm with the Warriors.
06:48I would not give up a first in any way, shape, or form for Nikola Vucevic.
06:52I agree. I agree.
06:53But I also, I read this as, you know, Casey Johnson is close to the Bulls.
06:58So this is, hey, we got 20 hours to go.
07:02I think that there are conversations between the Warriors and the Bulls.
07:06And they would like to find what's the middle ground on a price.
07:10And I think you're probably right.
07:11I think the Bulls want a one and the Warriors would probably give up a two.
07:14Or a couple twos.
07:15Or a couple twos.
07:16Yeah, two twos or, you know, to give up a one, even if it's a protected one, even if it's, you know, top five protected.
07:22Usually those protected picks then roll over into either two seconds or it rolls over into an automatic first the next year.
07:31Which is why the Warriors had to give up their first last year because it was protected.
07:35And then it became unprotected the second year.
07:38Bobby in Los Altos next up.
07:40Hi Bobby, thanks for the call.
07:41What's up?
07:42Hey, thanks for taking the call.
07:45Listen, I'm not sure, I feel like you're overstating this fan's need for a trade at all costs.
07:52And I guess the reason I feel like that is that, first of all, Durant, whether he doesn't want to come or not, I don't think he has a Bradley Beal type of clause.
08:03And I think they should still, I guess you said they've dropped the deal, but they should absolutely still pursue that.
08:09Because the circumstances are so different.
08:12When Durant came after, you know, whatever we lost in the last minute of game seven against the Cavs, we didn't, the fans I don't think felt like they actually needed him.
08:22He was icing on the cake in an extra, you know, insurance policy.
08:26But now the situation is they know, the fans know they can't win a championship the way that the roster is currently constructed.
08:34So Durant coming, he would actually be, I feel like, I don't want to say savior, that's overstating it.
08:40But the amount of appreciation that he would get for bringing this team over the hump and making them exciting men, a contender, I feel like that dynamic was never there before.
08:51And I feel like he should embrace it.
08:53And like I said, he doesn't have a choice.
08:55I feel like they should pursue it.
08:57That being said, you know, this idea of, oh, we need a trade at all costs, I absolutely don't believe that.
09:03And I feel like it's been very successful in terms of the press releases or the leaks.
09:08And if nothing happens, Dunleavy should 100% have a press conference.
09:13Because he gets to say, I know you guys think we just sort of blow and smoke everyone's butt having back office conversations.
09:20But obviously we seriously pursued Durant and it publicly got out that he didn't want it.
09:26We're trying.
09:28And if you really think that's going to whet the appetite, if, hello?
09:36Yeah, we lost you for a second there, Bobby.
09:38Go ahead.
09:39My apologies.
09:40I'm not sure what part you lost me.
09:42But if you really think this Gusevich guy is going to whet the appetite and satisfy the we need a trade, I just, I don't buy that.
09:52I mean, personally as a fan, I don't buy that.
09:54I wouldn't care.
09:55If he gets expiring contracts, great.
09:58But I would never trade a valuable asset for that and say, oh, wow, we participated in this trade period.
10:07I would rather it didn't happen.
10:09Because that is not going to satisfy anyone.
10:11Well, Bobby, I agree with that last part.
10:13And thanks very much for the call.
10:15There were a few things in there.
10:16Let's peel them apart.
10:18The first thing you said is that you'd still go get Durant because what Kevin would sort of encounter is a different level of fan love than what he got the first time around.
10:29You might be right, but here's my perception.
10:31I don't think that's the thing for Kevin.
10:34I know a lot of people are like, he left because he wanted to be the big dog and he wasn't the big dog, so he's out.
10:39I really have never bought that that was the main thing that made Kevin leave.
10:45I think that what made Kevin leave are the things that you heard Mark Spears mention in his report today on ESPN, whether it be Draymond Green, some trouble with Joe Lacob, some trouble with Steve Kerr, or even just the current setting of Warrior Basketball in not thinking that they can win if he arrived.
11:02I don't think it's about his relationship with the fans.
11:05So that's number one.
11:07As far as the whole idea of they have to make a trade, it's not even just about the fan base.
11:13I also think it's about the perception nationally.
11:18So much talk about the Warrior organization shooting for the stars and every available player.
11:24If then after that pursuit they end up with nothing, right as the All-Star game gets here, it's embarrassing.
11:33It just is.
11:34Beyond that, and you're not wrong in terms of the national perspective, you can see Sir Charles sitting up there on the set already talking about how the Warriors dynasty, if it even was one, that thing is so far in the rearview mirror I can't even believe we're talking about it.
11:50All the rest of the nonsense that he's going to spew from that melon of his, and I'm not a fan.
11:55But for me, the bigger thing would be the feeling inside the locker room where Steph and Draymond and even Steve Kerr have been pretty open and honest about the fact that they need more.
12:06We need more to be able to get in there.
12:09And all we want is to give Steph a chance, give Steph a swing, a bite at the apple, pick your analogy.
12:14And if you're fighting for the ten seed and you go into the deadline and you come out of it with the exact same team and the exact same roster and LA got better and Dallas might have got better, Sacramento got more intriguing and all the rest of it, and San Antonio certainly got better and they were behind you.
12:30So I think inside the locker room is where I would worry about the feeling because they all want an infusion of something.
12:37They all want to get better at the deadline, and if you don't, forget the fans and forget the national media.
12:43I'm worried about the locker room.
12:45It's all of it. I think it's all of it.
12:46Yeah.
12:47No, you're right, but I don't worry about the national embarrassment.
12:50I mean, look, none of it's good. None of it's good.
12:53Bob Myers admitted it to Stein and Goo last week.
12:56Yes, PR and social media and all this, it does.
12:59It forces moves.
13:00It makes people do things.
13:02So the last part of what Bobby's saying is would Vujovic make the fan base be like, yeah, we got Vuj.
13:09No, no, it wouldn't, but I do think you could file it under better than nothing.
13:14I really do.
13:16I don't think the Warriors can go on a pursuit like this and then arrive at noon tomorrow with nothing.
13:22Daryl in D.C.
13:24Hi, Daryl.
13:25Thank you for calling Willard and Dibbs.
13:27Hey, Willard.
13:28Hey, Dibbs.
13:29Great show today.
13:30This is my first time calling you guys show.
13:32So great.
13:34Thanks, Daryl.
13:35No problem.
13:37I'm actually with you, Willard.
13:39I think the Warriors need to trade, but I don't think they need a massive trade.
13:44My personal opinion, I would love to get Vujovic.
13:48I would love to get Kevin Herter.
13:50And if you could, I would take a chance on Lonzo Ball because they're younger.
13:56If you want to now, I think Steph, he's a second scorer now.
14:01I think he'll be better if you take the ball out of his hands completely.
14:06Let him be a shooting guard like how he first came out.
14:09Let him roam the floor.
14:11Let him space the floor.
14:13And I think when he's off the court, Kevin Herter, I think, is a good spacer.
14:21He's better than Buddy.
14:23And I think he'll add a little bit more.
14:25And then Lonzo will just be that perfect facilitator for the team
14:29to keep the ball out of Steph's hands and make him fresher.
14:32That's just my personal opinion.
14:34Yeah, Daryl, I don't hate the ideas at all.
14:36I mean, they all can shoot.
14:38And the Warriors need that those all are space creators, especially Vujovic.
14:42My only concern with the idea that he has, Dibbs,
14:45is now you're starting to aggregate a lot of players
14:48and your salaries are getting up there.
14:50And now you're getting into the point where a Wiggins
14:53or someone like that would need to be involved.
14:55For me, if the Bulls are a match now, it means keeping Wiggins and Kaminga.
15:00Right, keeping them out of the deal.
15:02And I think that the sticking point would be having to give up a first-round pick.
15:06If you could do just an expiring Schroeder and an expiring Kevon Looney,
15:11you'd hate to see Kevon go no matter what happens.
15:14He might be gone in the offseason anyway.
15:16But you're getting Vuj, so therefore you're going to want to play him.
15:18But Kevon is a much-beloved guy.
15:20He is.
15:21That's the part about it.
15:22But if you get Vuj, you want to play him 29 minutes at the 5.
15:25And you've got TJD and you've got a little bit of Quinton Post.
15:28So, yeah, there's already going to be a glut.
15:30Steve liked when we were talking glut yesterday.
15:32But if that was the deal and it didn't involve a first,
15:35then, yeah, you get better and you do alleviate some of the roster crunch
15:38you have already.
15:39I mean, while we're sitting here throwing out deals,
15:41yeah, if it falls to that, if it's Schroeder, Looney, and two seconds
15:46for Vujovic, I'm in.
15:48Yeah, me too.
15:49I'm in.
15:50Let's go to RC in Napa.
15:52Hi, RC.
15:53Thanks for the call.
15:56Willie and the great Dan Dibley, thank you for taking this call.
16:01Any time Kevin Durant's name comes up,
16:06I just like to remind all the listeners that in the history of professional
16:13sport, nobody has taken less money and losing over more money and winning
16:23other than Kevin Durant.
16:26So roll that around in your heads with respect to your own job.
16:32I'm going to take less money at my new job,
16:35and I'm going to go to a worse organization.
16:40That never has happened except by the legendary Kevin Durant.
16:47So why anybody wants him, I don't know.
16:50The second thing I want to have, Dibby, remind me,
16:53when was it that he was working for Gary Radnich?
16:57That was about 06 to 2011.
17:00This station launched in 2011.
17:02I was the first hire in May of that time,
17:05which is the time during which I met Mark Willis.
17:08I love that he says working for Gary Radnich,
17:11who I don't think was ever an executive at Cumulus,
17:13but I understand where you're coming from, R.C.
17:17Well, he called him the great Dan Dibley.
17:19Yeah, he is.
17:20That's the thing to remember.
17:22And just remember, he made me, R.C.
17:26And then just ask Dan, he made everybody else.
17:30Yeah, that's about right,
17:32including half the people in this room and the next room.
17:35You're welcome, Lucas.
17:36Anyway, thanks for calling.
17:37Okay, R.C., I appreciate it.
17:39I can answer the questions.
17:41Do me a favor, R.C.
17:42Next time you call, talk a little slower.
17:45See if that's actually possible.
17:47I think he wanted to make sure that his point
17:51was being driven home.
17:56And it was.
17:57It was really mean, Dib.
17:58Yeah, seriously.
17:59I think you're great.
18:00Why don't you be nice to him for crying out loud?
18:02Because that's what we do, right?
18:03Because he's out in Napa.
18:04Ah, there you go.
18:05Maybe you'd get invited to golf or wine if you're nice to the guy.
18:08Great.
18:09Let's drink.
18:10Okay, perfect.
18:11Well done.
18:12Now that, that's simpatico right there.
18:15Listen.
18:16I couldn't.
18:17That was really good.
18:18That was weird.
18:19But, R.C., why would anyone want Kevin Durant?
18:22I can answer it.
18:23He's super good at basketball.
18:25Really, really good at basketball.
18:28I also don't think he's really left that much money on the table to be worse.
18:31I get what your point is.
18:33Why'd you leave the Warriors to go somewhere to be worse for less money?
18:37Not really that much less money.
18:39And he can answer the question for you.
18:41It was his experience, not ours.
18:43I don't know what the hell's going on with Draymond, with Joe Lake, with Steve Kerr,
18:47but he was not enjoying himself.
18:49He was not enjoying himself.
18:51If you want to rip him for that, rip him for that.
18:53He was not enjoying his experience, so he wanted to go somewhere else.
18:57I am never, I will go to my grave
19:01not ripping Kevin Durant and not being mad at Kevin Durant
19:06for the decisions he made after winning championships here with the Warriors.
19:09He wanted to go out there and try and do it himself.
19:12And he wanted to go and be the guy.
19:14Because when he came here, it was Steph's team.
19:17And if he comes back here, it would still be Steph's team.
19:20And I think that that would be a big part of why he wouldn't want to come back here.
19:25Whether or not he gets along with Draymond, loves playing for Steve,
19:28is enamored with working for Joe, I do think the biggest piece is still that.
19:33Where Kevin Durant doesn't want to come and be a part of Steph's team again.
19:39Yeah, that's probably, I mean, who knows?
19:41We've all come up with this list, and everybody might be right.
19:45And everybody might be wrong.
19:47Right, but if we can come up with eight or nine different reasons,
19:51wouldn't Kevin be like, exactly.
19:54There's eight or nine reasons.
19:56Yeah, I got 99 reasons why I don't want to come to the Warriors.
20:01And Steph ain't one.
20:02Yeah, way to bring it home.
20:03You're welcome.
20:04Mike in San Jose, you're next.
20:06Hi, Mike, thanks for calling.
20:09Hey, how's it going, fellas?
20:10What's up?
20:11Pretty much, you know, I'm with what the original first caller said.
20:16I'm in agreement with him, which was, you know, he doesn't really have a choice.
20:20And what they did with Luca the other day was them taking all that power back
20:25and them saying, you know what, it doesn't matter.
20:28You're on a contract, and we can swap a contract with another team
20:31whenever we want, and we'll do that when we want.
20:34So, I'm kind of looking at it from that point of view.
20:37And I'm also feeling like, well, you know, he really doesn't have a choice.
20:41So, what's he going to do?
20:42You know, sit out, not play?
20:44He's going to cry about it?
20:45Kevin Durant's the type of person, from what I've seen as him as a Warrior
20:50and before that, he loves basketball.
20:53So, if he comes over here, he's going to play basketball,
20:56and he's going to play it at a high level.
20:58Will he be happy?
20:59Well, who really cares at this point?
21:01And his feelings really don't matter.
21:03I would care, Mike.
21:05I would care.
21:06And let me tell you why.
21:07And, Mike, thank you very much for the call.
21:09I totally get the point.
21:10Here's why I think it matters.
21:12You compare it to Luca, but that's the Mavericks.
21:15They were sending the player out.
21:17They were not the acquiring team.
21:19The Warriors would be the acquiring team.
21:22What if the Lakers knew ahead of time that Luca was like,
21:26I hate you, and I don't want to re-sign with you?
21:29Then do you think they would have done the deal?
21:31No chance.
21:32I bet no.
21:33The Warriors are the acquiring team.
21:36You're asking them, and remember, reports would suggest this was a massive ask.
21:41So, do you want the Warriors to give up Kevin, or not Kevin,
21:47in receiving Kevin Durant?
21:49Do you want them to give up Jonathan Kaminga, probably A.
21:52and Andrew Wiggins, and as many as three first-round draft picks?
21:56Do you want them to do that for a player who's going to be like,
21:59I'm going to be disgruntled.
22:02I'm going to be disgruntled, and I will leave in a year and a half.
22:05Do you really want to do that?
22:07So I get that you say it's not under your control, and that's true,
22:12but I do think his feelings and his opinion matter.
22:16And he showed that.
22:17Yes, and I also believe that the Lakers had a good idea
22:20that they will be able to sign Luka Doncic to an extension.
22:24Everybody always wants to sign an extension there.
22:26Right, and so I don't think that they make that move
22:29without at least some knowledge of Luka's willingness to come be a Laker.
22:33And I know it's kind of a no-brainer because he's 25,
22:36and now you become the face of the franchise,
22:39the franchise that's the face of the league,
22:41and you're in L.A. and all the secondary income you can get by being there.
22:45It's kind of a no-brainer, but if you're the Warriors, like you said,
22:48in doing any of these moves, you have to have some assertion
22:51that the player's going to be happy.