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Welcome to episode 144 of the A List Podcast with A. Sherrod Blakely, Gary Washburn, and Kwani A. Lunis. In this episode, Sherrod, Gary and Kwani discuss Jayson Tatum and Paul Pierce spending time together training and working out, Rajon Rondo coaching rumors, and react to the Svi Mykhailiuk signing. Be sure to check it out as the A List reacts to the latest news and what may come next for the Celtics roster!  0:00 Intro 3:00 Jayson Tatum and Paul Pierce are bonding, what can Pierce teach him? 7:31 FanDuel Sportsbook 8:15 Rajon Rondo rumored to be coaching staff candidate for Celtics? 16:24 Celtics sign Svi Mykhailiuk, what does he bring to the team? 19:14 Indeed 20:57 Svi cont'd 22:09 Brad Stevens has brought on roster guys that he's giving a shot to "prove it" 23:29 How do the Celtics look and are there any additional moves they should make? 24:05 With Blake Griffin not coming back apparently, will Celtics go out and add another big? 31:47 Outro  This episode of the A List Podcast is brought to you by Fanduel Sportsbook, the exclusive wagering partner of the CLNS Media Network. NEW customers can bet $5  and get $200 in BONUS BETS – GUARANTEED. Plus, all customers who bet $5 will get $100 OFF NFL SUNDAY TICKET from YouTube and YouTube TV. Now is the best time to join FanDuel! The app is easy to use and you can be on everything from spreads to player props and more! So, visit FanDuel.com/BOSTON and kick off the NFL season with an offer you won’t wanna miss.  21+ and present in MA. First online real money wager only. $10 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets that expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Hope is here. GamblingHelpLineMa.org or call (800)-327-5050 for 24/7 support. Play it smart from the start! GameSenseMA.com or call 1-800-GAM-1234. NFL Sunday Ticket Offer ends 9/18/23. No refunds. Terms and embargoes apply. $100 off NFL Sunday Ticket, not YouTube TV. YouTube TV base plan required to watch YouTube TV. Redemption requires a Google account and current form of payment. Commercial Use Excluded. Subscription renews; cancel anytime.  Indeed! Visit https://Indeed.com/ALIST to start hiring now! Indeed understands the importance of making every dollar count when growing your business. That's why you only pay for quality applications that match your must-have job requirements with Indeed. If you need to hire, you need Indeed.

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00:00 The A-List Podcast is brought to you by FanDuel,

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00:06 - Hello everyone, welcome into the A-List Podcast.

00:10 Yes, I am still finishing my factor meal.

00:13 That's why you hear us finish it.

00:16 I was eating food before we started.

00:18 - And we heard it in stereo.

00:20 - Okay, but Sherrod was also eating the exact same meal.

00:22 So I feel like this is gonna be a really good episode

00:25 because we're all already in sync, right Gary?

00:28 - Right.

00:29 - Gary's feeling real good.

00:30 - And we're all in the ACC now.

00:32 - ACC fool.

00:36 - They barely made a plane.

00:37 - I love how he's trying to act coy now

00:39 because off camera, he was so hyped to be a part of the ACC.

00:42 - I am hyped, I'm hyped, I ain't gonna lie.

00:45 - Give us your statement.

00:46 - I don't know any Cal fan that's not hyped to be,

00:49 have a conference after being homeless for about a month.

00:53 I don't know any Cal fan that ain't happy about this.

00:57 - Cal was out there like, "Somebody, anybody, please."

01:02 Mountain West, Southwest, somebody.

01:04 - I'm ready, I'm ready to go to Virginia Tech,

01:07 I'm ready to go to Virginia, Clemson.

01:10 I'm even ready to go to Syracuse, believe it or not.

01:13 Any game at BC, I'm there.

01:18 Miami, we get to go to Miami?

01:21 - You?

01:22 - Tallahassee, what?

01:23 I mean, it's on.

01:25 Atlanta for Georgia, I even think about Georgia Tech.

01:29 I forgot they was in the ACC.

01:31 Oh, we going to Atlanta.

01:33 Me and the Cal crew, we going all over

01:36 the Atlantic coast for game.

01:38 Y'all done let us in, it's too late now, Serah.

01:41 Y'all gonna be like, "Man, why we let these busters

01:44 "up in here, this conference?"

01:46 But it's too late now.

01:47 We partied, I said, "We that uncle you didn't think

01:51 "was gonna show up at the barbecue?"

01:53 Like, oh, man.

01:54 - He wasn't invited.

01:55 - He wasn't invited, but he had come through,

01:57 come through late, hungry, and ready to take fool's money

02:02 and spades and dominoes.

02:04 So, let's get ready for the Cal, folks.

02:07 Now, I'm very excited, very excited after a tough month

02:11 for my alma mater.

02:12 - A tough month for his school.

02:14 - My alma mater and for Stanford and even SMU.

02:18 Let's give SMU just somehow, like they just backed in.

02:21 They was, they went even crazy.

02:24 - We partied that way, too.

02:25 - All of a sudden, SMU just kinda slides in,

02:28 like the dude at the, the last dude on the VIP list.

02:32 - Thank you, God.

02:34 - How long you been here?

02:35 All right, come on, come on.

02:36 - You know what, you good.

02:38 - Yeah, all right.

02:40 I'll let you in, too.

02:41 So, thank you for the welcome to the ACC.

02:44 - Yeah, that's--

02:45 - And we'll be talking more in the next several months

02:49 when the schedules come out for next year.

02:51 - Thank you for that.

02:52 Thank you for your enthusiasm about being--

02:55 - Let's go, Kawani, let's go.

02:56 - Let's go Atlantic Post Conference.

02:57 I've finally digested my food, so I think we're good now.

03:00 Let's talk about the Celtics.

03:02 And no, that was not an ad,

03:03 even though they are one of our sponsors.

03:05 I was just really hungry.

03:07 But let's go back to the Celtics.

03:08 Jason Tatum, Paul Pierce.

03:10 We thought it was just a social media for clout type video,

03:13 but are they besties now?

03:15 We had another video of Tatum and Pierce working out

03:18 and people are really excited about it.

03:20 What do you two think?

03:21 - So, I mean, it's nice to have that

03:26 in the month of August and September to talk about,

03:29 'cause there really isn't a whole lot else.

03:31 We're tired of talking about James Harden.

03:32 We're tired of talking about Dame.

03:34 We're tired of talking about the Fiverr squad,

03:37 although Ed Edwards still is balling out.

03:40 But for Celtics content, it's a good story.

03:43 But there's a connection there

03:46 that I do think we have under play,

03:48 because we're seeing it repeat itself over and over again.

03:52 You know, Paul is considered one of the great Celtics

03:57 of all time and greatness recognizes greatness.

03:59 He's trying to latch himself onto the next great Celtic.

04:03 And I think there's lessons that Paul can teach him.

04:05 It's certainly warning signs that Paul can put up

04:08 for Jason to navigate past.

04:10 But I think the thing that connects them is that

04:13 Paul knows better than I think almost anyone

04:16 what Jason is going through as far as trying

04:18 to get this franchise over the hump

04:19 and win the championship.

04:20 He spent a lot of his career battling that,

04:23 trying to figure out how to make that happen.

04:26 And you know, KG, Ray come to the building,

04:29 bam, chip is yours.

04:31 Is Porzingis that guy?

04:35 Is Gary's favorite defender O'Shea Brissett,

04:38 is he one of those guys?

04:40 We'll see.

04:41 But it makes for a good off-season story

04:43 just to see that it wasn't just like a moment in time.

04:47 It's like, there seems to be something brewing

04:49 between those two that goes a little bit more

04:51 than just, you know, every now and then workout type stuff.

04:55 - Wait, but what does Pierce gain from this?

04:58 No shade, like just genuinely curious.

05:01 Like what exactly-

05:03 - Gary, what you think?

05:05 - What can Pierce teach him?

05:06 - No, no, what does Pierce get out of this?

05:08 - Oh, oh, oh, oh.

05:11 I mean, I think that, I mean,

05:14 I think Paul wants to figure out what he wants to do for,

05:18 I mean, he's, you know, 45 years old now

05:23 and he's probably in that difficult position

05:26 of trying to figure out and transition

05:28 to what he wants to do next.

05:30 Does he want to coach?

05:31 Does he want to work out guys?

05:33 Does he want to be in management?

05:34 You know, he's delved into a lot of things.

05:38 He'd done a TV thing and now he's got the whiskey

05:41 and I think he's doing the cannabis stuff.

05:43 And, you know, he's had some not so great moments

05:47 over the last couple of years, but I think-

05:50 - Great moments, depends on how you look at it.

05:52 - Yeah, well, he's having fun when he,

05:55 he was having fun, but maybe, but too much fun.

05:57 - A little too much.

05:58 - But I think that it's good for him

06:01 to just, his reputation is kind of a potential coach,

06:05 a potential workout guy.

06:07 You know, these guys want to be able to have a life after.

06:12 And I think for Paul to take Jason under his wing,

06:16 you know, there's what, a 20,

06:18 about a 20 year age difference there.

06:20 So that's his OG.

06:22 And for them to work out together,

06:23 not just Paul sitting up there eating a sandwich,

06:26 saying, "Okay, Jason, go run suicides."

06:28 You know, like for them to actually be,

06:31 to Paul to be working out with him too,

06:33 I think says a lot.

06:35 So I think for Paul, he gets enrichment out of this.

06:39 And I think the respect,

06:40 the fact that Jason respects him,

06:43 you know, Paul's a guy,

06:45 and I think we've talked, we've heard about his,

06:47 he doesn't feel like he's respected

06:49 as much as he should be,

06:50 as a great player, an all-time great,

06:52 even though he made the 75,

06:53 even though he's made the Hall of Fame,

06:55 even though on Celtic, second all-time leading scorer,

06:58 all these accolades, he still feels somewhat slighted.

07:02 I think we all know that.

07:03 I think he has stressed that.

07:06 And I think the fact that

07:07 one of the top five players in the league

07:09 is working out with him and says,

07:11 "Hey, Paul, I wanna know what you know."

07:14 I think does a lot for Paul's confidence.

07:17 And also maybe his future

07:18 in terms of working with guys in coaching.

07:21 Maybe, you know, when his kids get older,

07:24 or he's got a young son,

07:25 maybe he coaches his son

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08:10 - That makes sense.

08:16 All right, thanks for the perspective.

08:18 All right, so another player of that '08 team,

08:20 Raja Rondo, there was a report

08:23 that there could be some interest

08:25 in possibly bringing him on the staff for the Celtics.

08:31 One, do you guys think that would work out for them?

08:34 But two, kind of going along the lines

08:37 of the previous question,

08:38 what could be mutually beneficial for both sides

08:42 if he were to come back to Boston?

08:44 - You know, I think Raja was always a coach on the floor.

08:51 I've been told by many people

08:52 he's one of the most intelligent players,

08:54 basketball IQ off the charts.

08:57 So if this is what he wants to do,

09:00 and I think starting on an NBA staff,

09:02 coming back to Boston would be a great idea.

09:04 You know, Raja is gonna be 38 in February,

09:09 so the playing days are probably over.

09:12 He didn't play in the league this year.

09:14 I don't think he officially retired.

09:16 I think he was kind of just maybe nudged out

09:19 and bounced around a lot of teams.

09:21 But I think it's a good idea

09:24 to bring another guy on the staff.

09:26 Now, how will Raja respond to being

09:30 like the number three or four coach?

09:32 How will he bond?

09:34 Will he look at Mazzullo and be like,

09:37 "Dude, I know more than this guy."

09:38 Like that comes into play because Raja is so smart.

09:42 He's a 16, 17 year NBA veteran, multi-champion,

09:47 a guy who will be on the bubble

09:51 probably for the Hall of Fame, I don't know.

09:53 And we can debate that some other time.

09:55 Is it, you know, he'll be on the ballot.

09:57 So this guy has a lot of accolades,

09:59 all four-time all-star.

10:02 Will he kind of buy into being what an assistant coach is?

10:07 Especially with, but he knows,

10:09 I'm sure he's very cool with Sam Cassell.

10:11 I don't know his relationship with Charles Lee.

10:13 I don't know his relationship with Mazzullo.

10:14 I know he's a good relationship with Brad Stevens.

10:17 So do you bring him on and, you know,

10:21 give him the guidelines, say,

10:23 "Okay, Rajon, this is what we need for you to do.

10:25 "This is what we want for you to do.

10:27 "Can you do that?

10:28 "If you can't, that's okay."

10:30 You know, or does he try to coach

10:32 maybe an assistant coach in college?

10:34 Like a guy like Rod Strickland

10:36 is a coach at Long Island University.

10:38 Some guys, you know, Kenny Anderson,

10:41 our friend Damon Stoudemire,

10:42 like is college his direction that he wants to do?

10:46 I think he's got to make that decision,

10:47 but I think it's an intriguing thing.

10:49 And it's not something I would be against.

10:51 You know, personally,

10:53 Rondo was hell to deal with as a cover and a player.

10:57 He was, I mean, he was hell.

10:58 And I'm not talking about-

10:59 - That was your boy, Gary.

11:00 Stop it.

11:01 - I'm not talking about,

11:02 I'm not talking about how everything was bad,

11:03 but he was a difficult dude to cover.

11:08 - I have heard that.

11:09 - Because he was so damn,

11:10 partly because he was so damn smart.

11:12 But he's a brilliant guy on the floor.

11:17 And if he wants to make that transition and say,

11:20 "Okay, I'm done playing.

11:22 I think that's a good thing."

11:24 I think the Celtics would be best suited to Adam.

11:26 - Rondo is one of the most intelligent basketball players

11:31 I've ever covered.

11:32 He has intellect and vision,

11:36 and a lot of them just a basketball moxie

11:38 that very few players, I think,

11:40 who played in this game have had.

11:42 That being said,

11:43 there's a reason why guys like him

11:49 are difficult to deal with at times,

11:51 because they know a lot.

11:52 And sometimes the challenge for them

11:54 isn't necessarily being a smart ass and such,

11:57 it's getting others to see what they see.

12:01 I think that's always been a challenge with Rondo,

12:04 is getting others to understand just where he's at

12:08 from a basketball IQ standpoint.

12:10 That being said,

12:12 if he's willing to kind of humble himself a little bit

12:15 and teach,

12:16 because I think Rondo will be an amazing teacher

12:18 of the game,

12:19 because of the insight that he has

12:21 and just some of the basketball instincts

12:23 that he brings to the table,

12:25 he would be a major plus for the Celtics.

12:27 And I don't think with Rondo,

12:29 I think more than anything else,

12:32 his presence will be the value

12:35 that he brings to that staff.

12:36 The fact that he can talk guys

12:38 through some incredibly difficult situations

12:41 that they may never even contemplate

12:44 that they might be having to deal with,

12:46 that when he brings it up, it's like,

12:47 "Oh damn, you know what?

12:49 I remember when that happened."

12:51 Or, "You know what?

12:52 I might have to deal with that when we play Denver."

12:54 Or, "I might have to think about

12:56 how am I going to address that particular thing

12:58 when we play this guy."

12:59 Rondo has that type of intellect

13:04 that to me is priceless.

13:07 And as Gary pointed out,

13:08 he can be difficult at times to deal with,

13:10 but at the end of the day,

13:14 as a player, it comes down to,

13:15 what do you do between those lines?

13:17 And as a coach, it comes down to,

13:19 how do you prepare the guys that you are assigned

13:21 to perform between those lines?

13:23 And I think Rondo, he would be a great fit.

13:25 And Gary, to your point about him and Brad,

13:28 that was a relationship that took a little time

13:29 to get going.

13:31 I mean, Gary, you remember the birthday debacle

13:36 where Rondo went one place for his birthday

13:39 and wasn't with the team.

13:40 It was weird.

13:45 But that's just Rondo being Rondo.

13:47 I mean, but-

13:48 - Wait, what's the story?

13:50 You can't tell the story.

13:51 - It was Rondo's birthday,

13:53 and he went to, I think it was Sacramento,

13:56 or he stayed in LA one of the two.

13:59 It was separated from the team,

14:00 and it got real weird.

14:02 Like, why did he do that?

14:04 But I wasn't mad at him,

14:06 'cause I mean, he went out there,

14:07 and I think he played and played pretty well.

14:09 But Rondo, again, I think he has had enough time away

14:14 from the game to just really sit back

14:17 and see where does he fit in.

14:18 And to Gary's point, I think he's better in the pro level.

14:23 I just think that his intellect, I think,

14:27 can be that difference maker

14:29 in getting a team over the hump.

14:30 Whereas college kids, I don't know if they are gonna give

14:34 him the type of respect that he deserves.

14:38 'Cause they see Rondo as Mr. Ankle-breaking,

14:41 fake behind the back, lay up and all that,

14:43 and they don't understand that it's not

14:46 that his athleticism allowed him to do that,

14:48 it's his intellect and athleticism

14:50 that allowed him to do that.

14:51 I don't think he's gonna get the respect

14:53 if he were to go to the college game

14:54 for how well he thinks the game through versus playing it.

14:57 - Yeah, I mean, I think Rajon was tough to deal with

15:04 because of his intelligence, mainly.

15:07 I think he wanted to, I think he got bored

15:11 with being covered in the basic questions.

15:14 And he decided there would be times he decided,

15:16 "Okay, I'm gonna answer every question with three words."

15:19 Like there was just things he would just,

15:21 he would play mind games.

15:22 - Give himself a challenge.

15:24 - Yes, and that was-

15:25 - I found it kind of funny when it happened,

15:27 but I was the only one in the media

15:28 who thought it was funny.

15:29 - Yeah, yeah, he was the only one laughing.

15:30 So- - Like Marshall Lynch.

15:32 - So I think highly of Rajon Rondo.

15:38 I think as one of the most intelligent guys

15:40 I've ever covered, especially with basketball IQ,

15:43 I think it'd be a great idea if he's ready to hang them up.

15:48 You know, like remember when Tyronn Lue came on

15:52 to the Celtics staff and he was still kind of hanging

15:54 with the, but that was a veteran team

15:56 with KG, Paul, and Pierce.

15:58 And he was kind of still hanging with the guys

16:01 'cause he was younger than, sorry, younger than KG.

16:05 And he was younger than half the guys on the team.

16:10 And he still had to get the player out of them.

16:13 And I think has Rajon gotten the player out of them?

16:17 That's what I want to know.

16:19 And if he has, I think it's a great idea.

16:21 - All right, well, Brad, it's your move.

16:25 Moving on, Celtics did make a move this past week.

16:28 They signed Sve, I don't know, you know, Sve.

16:32 I'm just gonna call him Sve.

16:34 47th overall pick in the 2018 draft.

16:36 He played 32 games.

16:38 Z Cabangeli.

16:40 - Look, I'm, yeah, I'll say Cabangeli

16:42 'cause I just, every time I get his name, I'm like,

16:46 I'm just gonna say Z.

16:47 - Sve, I'm gonna give you a hard time last year

16:52 on the fondue.

16:54 I'm giving you a hard time.

16:55 - His name is Sveat Artislav Mihailov.

17:00 - All right, moment of silence for that.

17:05 - Very good, Sharron.

17:07 - Snaps.

17:08 - Yes, that guy is signed with Boston Celtics.

17:12 What do you two think he brings to the team?

17:16 What do you, do you think he even is gonna be a player,

17:20 you know, an eligible player at this point for them?

17:24 What do you, what is the mentality?

17:26 - He helps them from a depth standpoint.

17:29 They, as we know, Joe Mazzullo likes shooters.

17:33 He likes to have as many out there as possible.

17:35 And this is another guy that he can add to that mix.

17:38 And he's a guy that shoots, you know, mid forties

17:42 pretty much everywhere on the floor.

17:44 So I, and plus it's a very, I would say it's a low risk,

17:49 decent reward type of proposition.

17:53 I don't think we're talking about a guy

17:55 that's just gonna come in and be an all-star

17:56 or be a starter, but he's a guy

17:58 that can help them win some games.

18:00 The one concern I have about him,

18:02 and again, this is just me.

18:04 Actually, that's a lie.

18:05 It's me and a lot of me's out there concerned about this.

18:08 It's his defense.

18:09 It's not so much from a physical standpoint,

18:11 his foot movement and all that.

18:12 It's the fact that he's like six, seven, six, eight,

18:15 but he's got like a six, four, five-ish wingspan.

18:19 And that's, you know, that's not great

18:22 when you're not that athletically gifted to contest shots,

18:26 because not only are you at times maybe out of position,

18:29 but you don't even got the length to contest

18:31 because you don't have, you know,

18:32 your arms are shorter than,

18:35 it makes it a little bit tricky.

18:39 - Science, Gary, science.

18:41 - It makes it a little bit tricky.

18:43 But the thing that he has to do is he's gotta make shots.

18:46 I mean, he did it when he was in college at Kansas.

18:49 He's done it here and there at some of the different spots

18:51 he's been in the NBA,

18:52 but he hasn't really been a consistent, reliable guy,

18:55 even though his numbers might tell you he can help you.

18:58 I mean, a guy who's kind of an end of the bench guy

19:01 who averages about six points a game,

19:03 shoots better than 40%.

19:04 You wonder what can he do

19:05 if he's getting 10, 15 minutes a game?

19:07 I think that's a high mark for him,

19:10 but anything's possible with Joe Mazzuola and shooters.

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20:57 - Yeah, I think it's a solid signing.

21:00 I mean, he's always played well

21:01 against the Celtics over the years.

21:03 He's a guy with a lot of heart.

21:05 A lot of the guys who come from that part of the world,

21:08 they play hard, you know?

21:10 You can look at Slovenia and Serbia

21:12 and some of those guys in those countries,

21:15 those Eastern European countries,

21:16 they come to the States and they do Goran Drogic.

21:19 Those guys play their asses off,

21:20 but I just think that's what he's gonna bring.

21:22 A guy who's gonna play hard,

21:24 wanna get paid and eventually try to get a contract,

21:29 more guaranteed multi-year deal.

21:31 He's only 26.

21:32 I mean, that's the thing.

21:33 I mean, I barely remember him in Kansas.

21:35 When I saw he played four years at Kansas,

21:37 I was like, "When the heck would I miss that,

21:40 him playing four years at Kansas?"

21:43 He kinda just appeared in the NBA.

21:45 Like, I just don't remember him much playing for the Jayhawks,

21:49 but I think he's a guy that can help them.

21:52 Like Shara said,

21:53 he's won a couple of ball games here and there at depth.

21:56 Will he take minutes away from Sam Hauser?

22:01 Will they compete against each other for the same spot,

22:04 for the same role, for the same minutes?

22:06 That's what I have a concern about.

22:09 But I think what Brad has done is he's brought guys on

22:14 that he's gonna give them a shot.

22:15 Delano Banton, Shara's buddy, Ose Brissett,

22:19 Svi, you know, Kevin Gelley.

22:23 The guys that he signed, I'm being funny,

22:27 Svi, the guys that he signed, it's, "Prove it to us.

22:31 This is your chance, chance to get some minutes,

22:34 a chance to prove yourself.

22:36 What can you do on a championship caliber club?"

22:39 And I think it's another challenge to those guys.

22:42 The challenge of those guys is stick.

22:44 A lot of those guys have played in the G League

22:46 or Brissett playing in Indiana teams

22:49 that weren't very good and Banton playing.

22:52 A lot of times with the Raptors, 905 G League team

22:55 or here and there in a big club

22:57 and Svi playing in Detroit and playing in Charlotte.

23:00 Well, this is the big stage.

23:02 This team has championship aspirations.

23:04 I'm sure all those guys in their mid-20s feeling like,

23:08 "Man, if I ever got a shot to play with a good team,

23:10 I'd dominate, I'd do, you know, dominate my role."

23:14 Not necessarily dominate the All-Star team,

23:16 but do well.

23:18 Well, this is your chance.

23:19 And for Svi, this is his chance.

23:21 And I think he'll take advantage.

23:23 I think he'll have a role,

23:25 he'll carve out a role in this team.

23:26 - So, excuse me, with that being said,

23:31 at this point in the,

23:33 as we still continue to gear up for the preseason,

23:36 do you two think that the Celtics look okay

23:40 or is there something else that you'd like to see?

23:42 - I wish they'd have another big.

23:46 I mean, that's just me.

23:46 - And there was a report, by the way,

23:47 that your guy, Blake Griffin, is not coming back.

23:51 So I think we can clear that up now.

23:53 At MassLive reported.

23:55 So, all the speculation that we've talked about,

24:00 he's not expected to report back to the Celtics.

24:04 - Yeah, I think they could use another big.

24:07 It feels as though they've checked off

24:12 pretty much every box of significance except that one.

24:15 As far as having,

24:17 and they may feel that they got enough depth now,

24:19 but my concern with their big situation

24:22 as it currently is constructed

24:24 is that so many of their core guys

24:26 are going to be on load management most of the season.

24:31 And that makes me nervous because at some point,

24:34 even outside of load management,

24:36 you might wind up having those guys

24:38 miss games here and there.

24:40 And without, I think, a really deep frontline,

24:44 I think it may cost them a game or two in the regular season

24:47 and hopefully it won't be a factor in the playoffs.

24:49 But the fact that they don't have, I think,

24:53 that deep, deep, deep frontline,

24:56 because that's just not who they are,

24:58 that's not their identity,

24:59 I think it might be one of those things

25:01 that could potentially hurt them

25:03 when games really, really matter most.

25:05 - Yeah, I agree with Sherrod in terms of the center position.

25:10 I'm not completely secure in terms of like,

25:15 you got Robert Williams who,

25:18 if you come in to this season

25:19 expecting him to play more than 60 games, you're crazy.

25:23 Even though he's healthy, he's just not,

25:25 he ain't gonna play no 75 games.

25:28 Al Horford is gonna be, is 37,

25:31 and we saw the signs of slowing down.

25:35 Luke Cornett's on a non-guaranteed deal.

25:38 That's your third center.

25:39 I think they need another athletic big,

25:42 but I think that their weight,

25:43 I think a guy I thought they should have signed

25:46 was Moses Brown, we're gonna go to Portland.

25:49 I just think he's a raw, young, athletic big

25:53 who could have helped them.

25:54 But there's other guys out there

25:56 that are on clubs right now that are likely to get weighed,

25:59 training in training camp, trying to make a club

26:02 that I think the Celtics are gonna wait on it right now.

26:05 No, they're not crazy about the market.

26:06 I wrote a story about this,

26:08 like the guys out there who are like,

26:12 Dwayne Deadman, Bismack Biambo,

26:15 guys that you're like,

26:18 "Yeah, do those two names excite you?"

26:21 Probably not, it's like a third center.

26:23 But a team like Oklahoma City,

26:27 a team, there's teams with 20 guys

26:29 on their training camp roster,

26:32 they're gonna have to cut some waves, some guys,

26:35 and I think the Celtics,

26:35 and they have that open roster spot,

26:37 so I think the Celtics will wait on that

26:40 and try to get a quality third big.

26:42 'Cause I think if you're relying on Luke Cornett

26:45 to be that guy, I just, I don't think Celtic fan,

26:49 I don't think the Celtics are probably as secure with that

26:52 as being a number three guy.

26:53 Although good guy, good locker room guy,

26:56 does as best as he can, nothing wrong with Luke

26:59 as a player, he plays hard, does everything you ask him to,

27:03 but as a third center to block shots,

27:06 to get that key rebound,

27:08 especially when Robert and Al are both health-wise

27:13 and time, load management-wise,

27:16 probably gonna not play, I mean, Al might play 60 games,

27:20 Robert, if he plays 60 games,

27:22 I think the Celtics management would do back flips,

27:25 'cause he played 35 last year.

27:27 So they've gotta get a third reliable big.

27:31 The thing about Blake Griffin that I wrote,

27:34 and I just feel like great locker room guy,

27:38 but for whatever reason, Joe lost trust in him

27:41 toward the second half of the season.

27:42 Remember Noah Vonley made the team out of camp last year,

27:47 but then he couldn't stay out of foul trouble,

27:49 couldn't, just couldn't find his way.

27:52 And then he was waived before his contract was guaranteed.

27:56 And then Blake ended up just kind of being more of a cheerleader

27:59 toward the second half of the season.

28:00 You need a guy who can come in

28:02 and give you 12 minutes, 13 minutes.

28:05 And we can talk about, should they go old?

28:08 Should they bring in Sharive's close friend,

28:11 DeMarcus Cousins, or Dwight Howard?

28:15 Dwight Howard's out there.

28:17 Should they go old and just bring in,

28:21 I don't think they would do that.

28:23 I think that they feel like that

28:24 that's too much affecting team chemistry,

28:27 but I do think they'll wait for camp

28:31 and figure out if a guy gets cut early, claim him,

28:35 because there's a lot of guys out there right now,

28:38 some rosters that are going to get,

28:40 some quality players that are going to get released

28:42 and not make their teams.

28:43 - Any final thoughts, Sherrod, as you ponder on that?

28:50 - You know, I'm just not, no.

28:57 I'm just not, no.

28:58 - No, it's like Brad.

29:03 Brad's just waiting to see at this point.

29:05 - No, I mean, Brad knows what he's doing.

29:07 I mean, Brad is out here playing chess

29:09 while the rest of us are looking at our checkerboard.

29:12 So, and I respect that.

29:14 I mean, they're going to make,

29:18 they're going to address this in some capacity.

29:20 It's a matter of how, not if.

29:23 And Brad's going to be, you know,

29:26 be as astute as he's been throughout this whole process

29:29 of being in the position that he's in.

29:30 And he's going to figure out what they need to do.

29:32 'Cause even though we're thinking

29:34 that they may have a certain need, you know,

29:38 opportunities to enhance another part of the roster

29:41 might materialize where they can get a better chemistry,

29:44 a better mix of talent.

29:46 So, no, I'm good.

29:49 I'm good.

29:50 I'm curious as hell, though,

29:52 to see what Brad's going to do, though.

29:53 'Cause he's done a really good job,

29:56 I think, of keeping fans and the media

29:58 and all of us kind of guessing

29:59 as to what the hell he's going to do next.

30:01 And more times than not, he's made the right call.

30:04 He's been able to get some really important additions

30:08 to the roster that you didn't really see coming.

30:11 So, like Gary's boy, O'Shea Bursette, big pickup.

30:15 - Besties.

30:16 - That's Gary's defensive player of the year.

30:18 You know that, right?

30:19 - Not true.

30:20 - Yeah, I think he'll do well.

30:22 I think he'll flourish in his role

30:24 as much as I hate to say it

30:27 because I hate to give any Syracuse guys any compliments.

30:30 Yeah, we see it, Sherrod.

30:34 We see it every week.

30:35 - We don't want to see it.

30:37 - Yeah, where's the Gigi Duttoni jersey

30:39 after US smacked up Italy?

30:42 I don't see that.

30:43 You just conveniently took that down, right?

30:46 - Yeah, I did.

30:46 I did.

30:47 - He really did.

30:48 Wow, you're really gonna notice.

30:49 - Yeah, I did.

30:50 - He's gonna be hanging.

30:51 - Right?

30:52 - He's hanging today.

30:53 But I do think that, like Sherrod said,

30:56 Brad's gonna make a good call.

30:58 I do think that they do need a third big.

31:01 And then we'll see what happens at point guard.

31:02 Like, I'm not wholly convinced that Derek can play

31:06 like full-time NBA point guard.

31:08 Like, that's gonna be interesting.

31:10 And obviously no more than me, but just seeing it,

31:13 is he gonna be able to tell guys where to go,

31:15 what to do, be that floor commander, that floor leader,

31:19 in kind of his quiet style,

31:21 because he's not a real talkative guy.

31:23 He just does it.

31:24 He just gets it done on the floor.

31:26 I'm fascinated with that,

31:28 that they kind of left that spot open when trading Marcus

31:31 and said, "Okay, Derek, this is you.

31:34 "And we'll see what happens and camp

31:37 "and how that all goes when we see the preseason."

31:39 But we're about a month away from the first preseason game.

31:43 But I'm curious about that too.

31:47 - Well, we have a lot to continue talking about

31:50 over the course of preseason and the season.

31:52 So there's nothing to fret about.

31:54 Of course, I wanna thank you all for listening

31:57 to another episode of A-List Podcast for H.R.Gleasely.

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32:01 I'm Kwanye Lewis.

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