Are the Celtics CHAMPIONSHIP Favorites with Jrue Holiday?

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The Celtics moved to the top of Fanduel's championship favorites alongside the Bucks after the Jrue Holiday moved them up from third behind the Nuggets when the day began. The Garden Report debated whether Boston will fulfill their favorite status and what could prevent them from doing so.   FanDuel Sportsbook is the exclusive wagering partner of the CLNS Media Network. NEW customers can bet $5 and get $200 in BONUS BETS – GUARANTEED.   If a comprehensive solution is what you need from yoursupplement routine, then try AG1 and get a FREE 1-years upply of Vitamin D AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase. Go to drinkAG1.com/GARDEN  ODDS-R! Ever wished you could navigate the betting field with the confidence of a pro? Enter OddsR. They're not a sportsbook, but they're the sports betting advisor you've always needed. It's like having a playbook for smarter bets right in your pocket. I've been absolutely loving the experience, and I think you will too. Especially since Pats Interference listeners get a 30-day free trial! Elevate your game day and join the smart betting revolution! Go get it at https://oddsr.com/celtics  Visit https://factormeals.com/NEWSFEED50 to get 50% off your first box! Factor is America’s #1 Ready-To-Eat Meal Kit, can help you fuel up fast with ready-to-eat meals delivered straight to your door.

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00:11 network. Both except for him.

00:13 Championship favorites now in

00:16 my mind you guys agree. Yeah I

00:18 thought that way even before

00:19 this deal I thought that they

00:21 were a slightly better team than-

00:23 the box but now. Yeah to me I

00:27 think the bandwagon is at mass

00:29 level. And I think that's a

00:32 good thing. I mean let me see

00:33 if I can back that up with some

00:34 actual facts here. What does

00:37 fan will have to say about it.

00:39 They have this at this moment in

00:42 time. Co favorites they didn't

00:44 have enough time to really

00:45 think about it they just had to

00:46 do something. Before the Celtics

00:48 that started flooding in so

00:50 they made a call for you know

00:51 they're coming but you know that

00:52 that number is going to move

00:54 right ever got in on that low

00:55 five hundred. Yeah exactly you

00:58 know because I think that

00:59 number is going to move again

01:00 in the Celtics will be. Favorite

01:01 man no Denver huh. People still

01:04 sleeping on Denver logo they're

01:05 great they're great they're

01:07 great. But it's to have co

01:08 favorites out of the east that

01:09 this means like I really don't

01:11 know what to do but I got I got

01:12 a- yeah something yeah. Here so

01:14 that's what they did there- so

01:16 yeah I would say. The big

01:18 question the big question. Bench

01:21 depth is an obvious question.

01:22 You had it before you have it

01:24 again now. The big question is

01:26 is he going to be a better

01:28 coach- and it's going to

01:30 continue to be Joe we're not

01:31 going to answer it in this show

01:33 but that's the one where you

01:34 guys are saying like who's he

01:35 going to be this year is he

01:36 going to mature a little bit is

01:38 he going to be less defensive

01:39 about his choices. Is he going

01:41 to have. Is he going to know

01:43 how to put these guys in the

01:44 best position to win. Is he

01:46 going to is the team going to

01:47 buy into whatever his

01:48 philosophy is. Or do you now

01:50 have too many veterans and too

01:51 many strong. Look at what

01:52 you've got here. These guys are

01:54 not coaching D. two college

01:56 here you're coaching. Veterans

01:58 who have different varying

02:00 degrees of success here but

02:02 this is like. These are some

02:03 big boys they got it they got

02:05 to really believe that what

02:06 you're saying is the right

02:07 thing. We can't have a well

02:09 Joe wants to shoot threes but

02:10 we think we should be playing

02:11 defense and driving the ball

02:12 sort of situation here. That's

02:14 not going to be great so I am

02:15 curious like. Does this change

02:17 is thinking about what kind of

02:18 team he wants us to be. Their

02:19 philosophy his leadership. He's

02:22 a big big big question mark

02:23 because we know his teams. He

02:26 likes to coach a scene to shoot

02:27 a lot of threes. And shooting a

02:28 lot of threes doesn't

02:30 necessarily align itself nice

02:32 and neatly with elite defense.

02:34 But you you gotta believe that

02:36 Joe. It maybe this is where his

02:38 assistant coaches come in. Has

02:40 to leave all Charles Lee

02:41 Milwaukee now you get drew.

02:43 Not bad. You gotta believe that

02:46 Joe is going to recognize and

02:48 lean into and try to amplify

02:50 the fact that he probably he

02:51 has probably the best defensive

02:53 backcourt in the NBA. When you

02:55 look at drew. You look at

02:56 Derek White. You have to figure

02:58 out a way to amplify that

02:59 particular. Point because when

03:01 you do something and have

03:02 something that no one else has

03:03 or they don't have it. As good

03:05 as you do. You absolutely have

03:07 to maximize that. Consistently

03:09 and I don't know if three point

03:11 shooting Joe. Is going to

03:13 maximize the fact that you've

03:14 got elite defenders. Who can

03:16 get you easy on the ball.

03:18 You've got elite defenders. Who

03:20 can get you easy buckets in

03:21 transition. And can lock kids

03:23 up. And maybe the score isn't

03:24 quite as hundred and thirty

03:26 seven to one fifteen that you

03:28 like. Maybe. Them doing their

03:30 jobs well. Keeps the score at

03:32 like one fourteen to one oh

03:34 one. Figuring out how to get

03:36 the best out of his players who

03:38 have elite skills. The

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03:53 Win or lose.

03:55 That's what. Don't have a

04:01 system. Play to the strength of

04:03 your players. OK. Is Joe going

04:05 to be able to look at the

04:06 roster he has now and figure

04:07 out the best style of play for

04:08 these sorts of guys. The best

04:10 lineup combos. I mean he was

04:11 still. He couldn't figure out

04:13 that Derek White was his best

04:14 player. Until game seventy

04:16 eight last year. You know like

04:18 it took forever. You're looking

04:20 in here. He didn't know what to

04:21 do with Brogdon either. You'd

04:23 see games. Brogdon's played

04:24 fourteen minutes. Like he just

04:25 forgot about him. You know like

04:27 yeah there was a lot of

04:28 inter interpersonal dynamics

04:30 there too though. Especially

04:31 after the Udoka situation. I

04:33 think he goes into this year in

04:35 a much better place. Much. And

04:37 yeah. Let's not forget it. I've

04:39 been as critical of Joe as

04:40 anybody. But they started

04:42 twenty one and five doing some

04:43 legitimately innovative things

04:45 offensively where we said.

04:46 Yeah. Making it all. Did he

04:48 just kind of solve. Well no.

04:49 There was a lot of movement and

04:51 action and flow to the offense

04:53 early on. Right. But Bobby you

04:56 know what. I mean listen. When

04:57 you start the season off and

04:59 you're winning and that's

04:59 great. You know it's going to

05:00 happen. Teams are going to

05:02 adjust. They're going to figure

05:03 out something and they're going

05:04 to force you to develop.

05:05 Yeah. There's no doubt.

05:07 That's part. That was part of

05:09 Joe's learning curve last year

05:10 was just figuring out how to

05:11 counter. Or how to adjust to

05:13 the counters that teams were

05:14 making against him. And some of

05:15 the things he wanted to do. And

05:16 it took him a little bit of

05:17 time to figure that out. I'm

05:19 hoping that that experience

05:21 will better prepare him to be

05:22 able to counter. Counter attack

05:25 with others are doing to him

05:27 when they take away some of the

05:28 things he wants to do initially.

05:29 Yeah. Yeah. And he has the

05:31 assistance now. He needs one of

05:33 these guys to step up as his

05:34 defensive guy. There's no doubt

05:35 I'll know if I'll be Lee or

05:37 Casello or whatever it will be.

05:38 But someone's got to really

05:40 drill the defense for this

05:41 group. I don't think especially

05:43 I went back and read that

05:44 athletic article again that

05:45 sometimes they came out of the

05:47 article are the huddle and

05:48 really didn't know what they

05:49 were doing defensively. There's

05:51 got to be someone there

05:51 drilling that going over film

05:53 with guys making sure

05:54 everything's tight and

05:55 emphasize on that. And because

05:56 they really did play loose on

05:58 that side of the ball last year

06:00 the motivation all the stuff we

06:02 talked about which you know

06:03 John saying a few minutes ago

06:05 that's got to be handled in the

06:06 room that's got to fall on the

06:08 players at a certain point.

06:10 It can't really be Missoula

06:11 motivating them on the

06:13 importance of the year at this

06:14 point. And there's really no

06:15 one at this point that can save

06:17 them in that sense. So that

06:19 falls on the players. They need

06:21 a defensive guy to emerge. And

06:22 when it comes to the offense as

06:23 you said Sharad there's got to

06:24 be some flexibility here. They

06:27 need to use Porzingis in the

06:28 post maybe to your point getting

06:30 Horford in different spots. The

06:32 mid range. He was very flexible

06:34 with Brown from the mid range.

06:35 Can other guys utilize that

06:37 spot on the floor if they're

06:38 struggling from three and Tatum

06:40 too. I really didn't love the

06:42 way they used Tatum bombing

06:43 away at the top of the arc from

06:45 three last year eight times a

06:46 game. There's many different

06:49 spots on the floor you can

06:50 utilize him out of with and

06:51 without the ball. So it's a

06:54 it's there's responsibility on

06:57 both sides right. The players

06:58 have to figure this out to some

06:59 degree. Joe I think will be

07:01 better. And fortunately he has

07:02 a staff that's in his corner

07:04 and better equipped to handle

07:05 things this year because for

07:06 all the excuses last year and I

07:07 know we hate excuses they were

07:09 kind of valid. The whole staff

07:11 shot out the door the day after

07:13 the season ended. It wasn't

07:14 great. It wasn't great. And you

07:16 handed you handed Joe not only

07:18 with zero experience a guy

07:19 coming from you know back you

07:21 know you know second row Joe you

07:22 know and all the jokes and this

07:23 and that. But I mean he he cut

07:25 he really cut the line to get

07:27 to where he was in that

07:28 position. So whatever

07:30 assistance remained we're

07:31 looking at him like this guy

07:32 you know like Stoudemire you

07:34 know whatever it's like OK. So

07:37 yeah it was a weird situation

07:39 and even when you compare it to

07:40 someone like Brad. Who came in

07:42 with a terrific college coaching

07:45 pedigree. He got to grow with

07:46 some younger players who were

07:47 there and who you know he was

07:49 easier to get them to buy. I

07:51 had it much easier than much

07:52 easier. Joe walks into a

07:54 readymade locker room that has

07:55 championship aspirations and

07:57 that now double down on that

07:59 one year later. All all knowing

08:01 that he had kind of an up and

08:02 down year last year so it's

08:03 definitely some pressure on Joe

08:04 I'm curious how he carries

08:06 himself to we talked about lack

08:07 of importance with how things

08:09 are in the media but perception

08:10 matters a little bit. You can't

08:12 be this nervous basket case

08:13 every time someone questions

08:15 like you know how many threes

08:16 you took or what you took so

08:17 many. I heard him too didn't it?

08:18 That built what people saw him

08:21 as. It changes the perception

08:23 and you know then the

08:24 conversation is different. It

08:25 really only matters what the

08:26 players think but I don't think

08:27 he helped himself with some of

08:28 that stuff last year. So just

08:30 being all together a little bit

08:32 more like Zen you know I think

08:34 will help Joe this year you

08:36 know. In high and how this is.

08:38 Who is he going to. Yeah he's

08:39 going to tell he loves this

08:40 you know he loves Jalen. He's

08:42 going to have to learn to love

08:43 all over again there's a lot of

08:44 new faces. He's going to have

08:47 to learn to love Drew. He's

08:48 going to have to learn to love

08:49 these guys. Love the new guy.

08:50 Love the new guy. Since you

08:51 clearly you don't love the guys

08:53 that have been there. Love the

08:54 new guy. What did you say to

08:55 Drew? What did you say to Drew

08:57 when he walked through the door?

08:58 I told him I loved him. How is

09:00 that possible Joe? You just met

09:01 him. Well. Love at first sight.

09:04 That's how it is. Love at first

09:05 sight. I told him I loved him.

09:07 We said this too. I love and

09:11 we'll see. Bryden might end up

09:12 in Miami and maybe he'll be in

09:14 position for revenge or

09:15 whatever but I love that they

09:17 have Drew when their chief

09:18 rival in the east is his old

09:20 team that just traded him that

09:21 he played with for years. He

09:22 knows Giannis. He knows

09:24 everything they do there.

09:25 That's awesome. That's a great

09:26 thing to have here and you kept

09:28 Drew away from Miami. If the

09:30 heat got Drew today what would

09:32 we be saying? Oh geez that's

09:33 not great. Miami becomes a

09:36 legitimate threat. Philly gets

09:37 him with all the hard and

09:39 nonsense going on right now

09:40 you're like oh they ended up

09:41 pretty good out of that

09:42 situation and now you have them

09:44 and those teams are saying uh

09:45 oh the Celtics have Drew now.

09:47 This is this is this is a good

09:49 trade here. I know I was torn

09:51 now that I see it now that I

09:53 can feel it. I really like what

09:55 they did there. You see the

09:56 light Bobby. I'm glad. I'm

09:57 glad. Stay off that fence

09:59 Bobby. You spend too much time

10:00 on the fence. Yeah it's hard

10:01 for me as you can see. And I

10:02 was worried they were going to

10:03 send out Al. I was. I'm wearing

10:05 all black right now. I'm I am

10:08 in mourning and will remain so

10:10 over Rob. That's going to hurt.

10:11 You know like I know like the

10:13 thing some fans might do is

10:16 like you almost kind of sort of

10:18 want to see the other people

10:19 you traded fail to feel better

10:20 about the trade. I don't want

10:22 to see Rob fail. I want to see

10:23 Rob thrive even if Rob is going

10:25 to a great situation. Yeah.

10:27 Really. Well he's but if he's

10:28 behind Aiton and honestly he's

10:30 better than Aiton. So you know

10:32 they'll find that out real

10:33 quick. So we'll see. You know

10:35 we'll see if they're going to

10:36 have the same problem you know

10:37 Brad had three years ago

10:38 friggin playing him behind

10:39 Tristan. You know like now man

10:42 that's your guy. You're so low

10:43 on Aiton. You really are. I

10:45 like Aiton. He was a center on

10:46 a championship level team.

10:48 Yeah. I don't know. We'll see.

10:50 But I I I I I'm going to I'm

10:52 going to miss a lot of that

10:55 that it's it really is like

10:57 I'm I'm struggling a little bit

10:59 with the- I'll tell you.

11:00 Scoot Henderson. Scoot

11:01 Henderson is not going to miss

11:03 him on the roll like the Celtics

11:04 did for all those years. Yeah.

11:06 Hopefully he's going to be

11:06 finding him. Hopefully he went

11:08 to lob heaven because you know

11:09 he wasn't you didn't have it

11:11 here you know. Yeah. Yeah. So

11:13 Scoot Scoot's going to I would

11:15 not be shocked if Scoot is in

11:16 the top five for assists per

11:17 game as a rookie. Because he's

11:19 going to he's going to have

11:20 opportunities every night if

11:21 guys can stay relatively

11:22 healthy to rack up big assist

11:24 numbers. Yeah. The Blazers did

11:26 so great with that Lloyd

11:27 situation. They really did.

11:29 Everyone's giving them crap. A

11:31 lot even the past couple days

11:32 it's like oh they did Lillard

11:33 wrong and did it was this

11:35 really better than the heat

11:36 package. Well now you have two

11:37 more great first. Draymond got

11:39 hurt. Yesterday so now that

11:41 Warriors pick is already like

11:43 whoo. Like something. You know

11:44 looking better. So I kind of

11:46 like that Warriors pick. I wish

11:48 they could have found a way to

11:49 hang on to that because they're

11:51 like a disaster away from like

11:52 you know. But you can tell.

11:54 Yeah. It is interesting that

11:56 Portland was like yeah give us

11:57 that. That was obvious. I mean

11:59 you just you just gave them and

12:01 you just gave them a player

12:02 that makes them like no worse

12:03 than like you know the second

12:05 best team in the East and a

12:07 conference finalist you know on

12:10 a disappointing year. So you

12:12 know that that pick is twenty

12:13 nine. You know you it's going

12:15 to be hard for Golden State to

12:16 get there. So it's obvious that

12:17 that's what they held out for.

12:19 I wish they could have you know

12:21 Celtics could have rolled the

12:22 dice and keep it. That they had

12:24 it right. Because then you're

12:25 saying oh the Celtics are given

12:26 up there. Would they give up

12:27 in this twenty nine. Maybe

12:29 given up twenty seven two or

12:30 twenty thirty swap. You would

12:32 have been given up a lot more

12:33 of your own future in this deal

12:34 if you didn't have that. So

12:35 again the way the it helps.

12:37 The way the smart and holiday

12:39 trades connected together in

12:40 the end was just perfect. They

12:41 had a man Brad. We were sitting

12:44 here two years ago saying Brad's

12:46 the GM. How's that going to

12:47 work. Is he going to be gone a

12:48 year. But he's just been

12:50 perfect in this role. It's an

12:52 unbelievable. Yeah. Yep. So

12:56 yeah. I mean there's a lot

12:57 there. But I think we'd we'd

12:59 already started to decide how

13:00 we were going to feel about

13:01 this when we thought it was a

13:03 possibility a couple of days

13:04 ago. Now it's real. And as

13:05 we're processing it I think

13:07 like I said. Some some people

13:08 were gung ho. But you know the

13:10 rest of us were like. If it

13:11 happens. I we can we can roll

13:14 with it. We get what we get it.

13:16 You know we get why it is. And

13:17 this is the cost of doing

13:18 business. But it costs you some

13:20 depth. It costs you a beloved

13:21 player. Costs you a player with

13:23 a really high ceiling. In Rob.

13:25 And I think that's the thing

13:26 that's going to hurt the most.

13:27 I think the picks and brought

13:28 in people are absolutely fine

13:30 to part with. You wish there

13:31 was a different way to get

13:32 this done. But there wasn't. I

13:33 think we knew that a couple

13:35 days ago. And that's where we

13:37 are. So the deal gets done.

13:38 Media Day is going to be

13:39 incredibly interesting

13:41 tomorrow. As we said we will

13:43 all be down there hanging out.

13:45 And and and you know kind of

13:49 doing our thing. So make sure

13:51 that you. It's in Brighton.

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