Mock Draft Monday: Pat's Mock 2.0 and Listener mocks | Patriots Nation

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Pat and Matt break down Pat's mock draft 2.0 on Pats Pulpit, and then go through some listener mock drafts as well.

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00:00:30 All right, welcome into another edition of the Patreon Nation Podcast.

00:00:35 Your boy Pat Lane, as always, here with my guy Matt St. Jean.

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00:01:21 So, anyways.

00:01:24 So here we are.

00:01:25 Here we are. Combine week.

00:01:28 And Pat Lane, Mock Draft 2.0.

00:01:32 I'm excited to get into it. I'm excited for Mock Draft Monday.

00:01:35 I'm excited about it. I'm excited.

00:01:37 I mean, that's just, this is the best season.

00:01:39 Draft season is the best season, especially with the Patriots being so god awful this year.

00:01:43 Draft season is just, is all I'm looking forward to.

00:01:47 And we have, I think we have officially entered, like, silly season with narratives and smoke screens.

00:01:53 And I think this week with the Combine, this is where you start to take things,

00:01:58 everything you read with a grain of salt.

00:02:00 Because it's coming from somebody who has a motive for sharing that information, by and large.

00:02:08 Well, did you hear that the Vikings are trading Justin Jefferson to the Patriots to move up to three?

00:02:16 And so the Patriots will move back to 11 or whatever it is with them.

00:02:19 And apparently the Patriots are going to get three other first round picks and Justin Jefferson, because that makes sense.

00:02:25 So, it's just, it's great.

00:02:29 I love, love some of the Mock trades that get out there this time of year.

00:02:33 Because, like, some of them, I think by and large, the ones we put together on our Mock Drafts were pretty reasonable.

00:02:39 And then you go around and you look at some of the other ones, and like the player for player trades.

00:02:44 I saw one, I think it was on NFL Network, it was like Jalen Waddle for Trent McDuffie.

00:02:50 Oh, yeah.

00:02:51 Like some stuff in there. I was like, what are we doing?

00:02:54 We're just moving guys just to move guys. What's going on here?

00:02:57 It's crazy. And some of the stuff, I'm just like, what are we doing, man?

00:03:00 So, but yes, and that's, so it actually leads, so it leads into my Mock Draft.

00:03:07 So, it was, Colton says, best time of year for Lunatic trades, trades and areas. I love it. So true.

00:03:14 Yes.

00:03:15 So, I did do my Mock Draft 2.0 came out today on Pat's Bullet Bit.

00:03:20 For those of you that haven't read it, you can head over to Pat's Bullet Bit and read the whole thing.

00:03:24 And we'll kind of walk you through it.

00:03:26 But I did trade back at three.

00:03:29 There's a few reasons for that. Okay.

00:03:32 There's a few reasons for that.

00:03:34 And I want to get into it because it's not, it's not just, sorry, it's not just to me.

00:03:43 It's not just, they're more than a quarterback away.

00:03:47 Because I've seen people say the Patriots are more than a quarterback away.

00:03:50 So, they don't need to draft a quarterback at three because that won't help them.

00:03:53 And that is just patently stupid.

00:03:56 It's just, it's not, that's not the way you do business in the NFL.

00:04:00 If, if you think you have a franchise quarterback on the board, you take him.

00:04:08 I don't care. You could be the worst team in the history of the NFL.

00:04:11 It doesn't matter. You have to have the guy.

00:04:15 If you think you have the guy, you take him.

00:04:18 You have to take him.

00:04:20 That's how you become the worst franchise ever is by not taking that guy.

00:04:24 You have to take him.

00:04:25 The key is, is that you have to believe that you have that.

00:04:31 And if you don't have that on the board, well, maybe someone else does think that the guy that you don't really like is, could be a franchise quarterback.

00:04:40 And you have to trust your team and your evaluation and say, we don't believe that someone else might.

00:04:47 We don't.

00:04:48 So, we can move back and go from there.

00:04:51 Right.

00:04:52 And that's as simple as simple as it is for me.

00:04:55 Yeah, no, I'm, I'm right there with you.

00:04:57 And it's, I think that's going to be the interesting thing as we go through the next couple of weeks and months here is to find out which, if any of these quarterbacks, the Patriots do like and how much they like them and where they're willing to take them.

00:05:09 Because, yeah, I don't think Jaden Daniels is necessarily a fit for what we've seen AVP do.

00:05:18 I don't think that means they wouldn't take him.

00:05:20 I think he has similarities to some of the quarterbacks we've seen in Cleveland that AVP has coached there.

00:05:26 Drake Mays seems like an obvious scheme fit.

00:05:30 JJ McCarthy seems like a big time scheme fit.

00:05:33 And it's all right.

00:05:34 Who's there at three?

00:05:35 Would they overdraft somebody to take a quarterback?

00:05:37 Do they want to trade back?

00:05:38 A whole lot of variables going on there.

00:05:40 But, you know, we look at your mock right here, and it has the Patriots trading with the Raiders trading back.

00:05:50 And, you know, you get a future first in that.

00:05:53 And we talk about being able to do a trade.

00:05:57 In some ways, I think the Raiders are the optimal trade partner for New England in this scenario.

00:06:04 I'll tell you why.

00:06:05 If they're trading up, they're going to be starting a rookie quarterback.

00:06:08 That quarterback is going to be no better than the third best quarterback in that division.

00:06:14 Their coach right now is by far the least accomplished coach in that division.

00:06:20 There's a real chance the Raiders are going into the season essentially with four or five losses already on the schedule.

00:06:27 The way that their division is going to play with a rookie quarterback and a second place schedule.

00:06:34 And starting a quarterback that New England clearly doesn't like that much, if that's where we're at with this.

00:06:42 And if that's how it goes, and you want to bet against that and get a future first round pick,

00:06:47 that's how you end up taking right back in the top five next year with an extra first round pick.

00:06:53 If you can bet against a team like that, I think that's the ideal team to bet against.

00:06:58 100%.

00:06:59 And I think, you know, the big thing, what's funny to me is that I had a lot of people commenting that I got a fleece by the Raiders in my imaginary trade scenario.

00:07:09 And so what I gave up the whole trade was I traded number three, of course, and a 2025 fourth round pick to the Raiders for 1344, which is their second round pick and next year's first round pick.

00:07:24 And so the thought process for me there was simple.

00:07:28 It was, you know, I'm looking at it saying, let's move back.

00:07:34 We're going to pick up a second round pick and a first round pick in 2025.

00:07:38 Now, the difference between that trade and say the Niners trade that they made with the with the Dolphins is that the Niners gave up their first round pick in three consecutive years.

00:07:53 Right. And so. Realistically, now a first round pick.

00:07:59 Counts as like basically the first pick of the second round is value wise is what it calls for.

00:08:06 Right. So if you're talking about a first round pick in 2026, to me, the value between that pick and the 12th pick of the second round this year is not really that much different for me.

00:08:21 And so and that's the thing.

00:08:24 Now, what happens that people say, oh, it's three first round picks.

00:08:27 It's not three first round picks.

00:08:28 It's two extra first round picks.

00:08:31 They got the first round pick you move back to.

00:08:34 Right. And then you got two other first round picks.

00:08:37 And so the Patriots now are getting would be getting 13.

00:08:41 It's and I know, Ryan, you're saying it's different.

00:08:43 It's not that much different.

00:08:45 I'm just from a value perspective, the way that they evaluate it, it's not that much.

00:08:51 I still would prefer, you know, the two extra firsts on it if you could get it.

00:08:56 But I think this is, you know, a totally a totally fair trade.

00:09:00 I had some. Here's the problem. Here's my thing. Right.

00:09:03 And listen, maybe that maybe that it would be a better trade for the Patriots for my mock draft, though, to fit the guys in that I wanted to draft.

00:09:10 I had to get that second round pick. So that's one of the reasons why.

00:09:13 So and it is around difference. Ryan, you're not wrong. It's around different.

00:09:17 I agree with that. What I'm saying to you is that the value of a twenty twenty five first round pick is the thirty second pick overall in this year's draft.

00:09:25 That's what it is when you look at it. And I know that's weird, but that's the way they look at it.

00:09:30 There's a there's a discount on picks later on or the other way around.

00:09:35 Right. Yeah. Right. So, yeah, the trade value of what Pat has there makes a lot of sense.

00:09:43 I'd prefer an extra first in there. But what he has works to and give you some wiggle room this year that I like.

00:09:50 Right. So anyway, so that's so that was the trade back. And look again, I think you can make an argument. I didn't get enough back.

00:09:57 I don't know if you know. I don't know. I'm not sure.

00:10:01 Like we could certainly make the argument. And if you wanted to say it should be a twenty six first round pick instead of a second round pick.

00:10:06 That's OK. I got no problem with that. I just again, I wanted to draft my guy at forty four.

00:10:12 And so I needed forty four to make that happen in this market. So that's the way it is.

00:10:17 So that was the way it went. And then what I had the Patriots doing was not sitting at 13,

00:10:24 because the thing is, is that you still want an impact player from this year's draft.

00:10:27 And I'm not saying you can't get one at 13, because I think you can. But I think realistically you want to get into that top 10.

00:10:33 And so I had them trading with Chicago, who already has the number one pick.

00:10:37 Now, there's of course, now there's been smoke that Chicago might move out of that number one pick.

00:10:41 They might move, you know, to where they might move to.

00:10:45 I think that is silly season. I don't I agree with you.

00:10:48 I think it would be stupid for them to do that. But that's just me.

00:10:52 So I had the Patriots trading 13, their fourth round pick this year, which again is one of four.

00:10:59 It isn't actually one of four because the comp picks haven't been worked in there.

00:11:02 But that's what it is right now. And next year, sixth round pick to move up to nine.

00:11:07 Now, is that enough? I don't know. On paper, it's enough. I don't know if that's actually enough.

00:11:12 But that's what I had them doing. And I had them at nine taking Olufosanu from Penn State, a left tackle.

00:11:20 They absolutely 100 percent need a dominant left tackle.

00:11:24 Joe Wall is the best left tackle in this draft for sure.

00:11:28 But Olufosanu would be a really nice consolation prize. He's an absolute freak. He's a freak.

00:11:36 They're the same tier. Right, right. And I think Alt is certainly more polished, I think, is what I would say about Alt. Right.

00:11:45 Yeah, they play differently. And I think it's, you know, it really is a style thing too, between the two.

00:11:54 Like I could see either going first. And I think if you come away with extra picks and a guy you think could be a franchise left tackle, you're ecstatic.

00:12:04 That is a great, great way. And I think it still does hurt to, you know, pass on a guy like Marvin Harrison Jr. and not take him there.

00:12:13 But you can't, the future picks, I think, make up for it. And if that future Raiders first is what we think it could be, then you're going to be right up there for a playmaker going forward.

00:12:26 Which, by the way, did you see some of the reporting on Marvin Harrison Jr. that came out today?

00:12:31 No.

00:12:33 They got him right now, reportedly, like in his workouts. Because he's not going to do the combine. He's just doing, he's just getting ready for the season.

00:12:41 I think he did more bench press reps than DK Metcalf did. And also ran a faster 40 time than Tyreek Hill. Or not faster 40 times, faster, like top speed.

00:12:55 They clocked him at 23 miles an hour. 23 miles an hour. The man is like 6'4", 220. It shouldn't be possible. I mean, it's insane.

00:13:07 The guy was literally made in a lap.

00:13:11 Yeah. So that's, I still think this is probably the right move, but passing on that hurts.

00:13:18 I know. I'll tell you.

00:13:20 If I was sitting there at three, and, you know, it goes, which I think is going to happen, it goes Caleb and Drake May is what I think is going to happen. If that happens and we're sitting there at three, I'm going to be rooting my ass off for Marvin Harrison Jr. at three because the guy is a freak.

00:13:38 But, you know, it's at the same time, like you say, if you can pick up extra capital, because you have a ton of holes, if you can pick up all that extra stuff and still get a franchise left tackle, I think that that makes a lot of sense.

00:13:51 Again, it doesn't make losing a guy like Marvin Harrison Jr. any easier, but, you know, that's the way I feel about it.

00:13:59 Yes.

00:14:00 Anyways. All right. So we get to round two.

00:14:03 I trade back again in round two because I got to get a four. I got to get that fourth round pick back.

00:14:07 So I trade with Green Bay, 34 to Green Bay for 41.

00:14:12 Their fourth round pick, which is like 127, is later on in the fourth round.

00:14:16 Again, won't be 127 because of the compensation picks at the end of the third round, but you get the idea.

00:14:22 And at 2025, third round pick, which is basically, again, the value of two fourth round picks.

00:14:27 So you're moving back seven spots for what is the value of two fourth round picks.

00:14:32 To me, that's a pretty fair deal on both sides.

00:14:36 I looked at it. I looked at it at 34 when I was running through the mark. I didn't love the talent at 34.

00:14:42 I saw some there's good players on the board for sure. Don't get me wrong.

00:14:46 But I thought if they can pick up some more talent, I just had to trade away some assets to move up to get my guy.

00:14:53 Okay, let's do that and go from there.

00:14:57 And so at 41, I take Jatavian Sanders, who tight end from Texas.

00:15:04 And I loved Sanders because he is that he's kind of that move tight end guy.

00:15:11 By the way, Ryan was asking about A.D. Mitchell. A.D. Mitchell was not there at 34 in the mark that I did.

00:15:16 Again, he could be there at 34. He was gone at like 29 somewhere, like the very end of the first round where he went.

00:15:24 He seems like a guy that ends up in Buffalo or Kansas City.

00:15:28 Yeah, yeah. And that's kind of that's kind of what I think he fits that mold.

00:15:32 You know what I mean? So but I love Sanders. He just he's not a great in line blocker, but that's OK.

00:15:39 He's almost kind of like he's not Dalton Kincaid, but he's like similar in the fact that he could play a different, a similar role to Dalton Kincaid.

00:15:47 And so I think that that's. Yeah, so they get explosiveness from the tight end position, which they haven't had, and I sit down here, they haven't had since Gronk retired, they have not had an explosive tight end since Gronk retired and really Gronk wasn't really explosive as last year.

00:16:03 So, you know, no, but I think he is. Sanders is still a bit of a project, but he's a younger guy.

00:16:11 He's very athletic. Realistically, you're probably not going to get a ton from Sanders in year one, but you're not drafting him for what you're going to get in year one.

00:16:18 You're drafting him for what he can be by year three. Exactly.

00:16:22 Especially with, you know, they got a really good tight ends coach, really experienced tight ends coach in the building now who can help develop.

00:16:30 So I love that. And I think tight end to me as a spot, you know, obviously in 2020, we're all traumatized by them double dipping at tight end and whiffing big time.

00:16:40 But you got to keep doing it. And I love the idea of taking one or two tight ends sometime on day two or day three in this draft.

00:16:47 Yep. Draft the right guy. All it comes down to is draft the right guy. You'll get it right eventually. Right.

00:16:52 It doesn't matter when you get a draft. Right. Right. Exactly. So. All right. And at 44, again, this is why I had to make the trade because my guy Malachi Corley had to come to the Patriots and it had to be the middle of the second round.

00:17:07 And so pick 44 Malachi Corley from Western Kentucky, the kid. Listen, I you know, I put the link to to my to my thread that I made on Twitter on the past ball, but thing on the past, what would article he's just he's a he's a running back.

00:17:26 He's a running back at wide receiver. He reminds me of Debo. He just when he gets the ball in his hands, he is a problem and he breaks tackles and he's shifty as hell and he will run you over and he will run by you and he will juke you out of your shoes.

00:17:41 You'll do all of it. Right. And that's the thing. Like, I love the kid. I'm very excited about him. And so, you know, you get a game breaking wide receiver. Now, listen. He's not a great route runner.

00:17:55 He's OK. Route runner. But that's not what he is. Right. That's not what Debo Samuel is. He was in was not the best route runner in the league.

00:18:02 But the fact is, is that you can give you can scheme him up touches and you just want the ball in the guy's hands.

00:18:09 And that's exactly what Corley brings you is the guy that, you know, when he has the ball in his hands, his work.

00:18:14 And I just think you look at what Marcus Jones is able to do his rookie year last year. And so you say, OK, we got Marcus Jones, we have Malachi Corley, and now we also have obviously a pop Douglas.

00:18:26 Right. So like we have these guys that can just get open. Right. And pop is there already. But Corley doesn't really play the same position as pop.

00:18:35 He's not going to be a slot guy. He's going to be a scheme touch type guy. So. Yeah. So anyway, so that's that's that's my guy. Anyways, I love him.

00:18:44 So I love Corley. I think my only concern at this point in your draft is that you get a guy like Sanders who's still a project and not a great route runner at this point.

00:18:54 And a guy like Corley, who, while being a great offensive weapon, also isn't a route runner. Right. I do think, you know, for the twenty twenty four season, you leave yourself

00:19:04 free agent moves aside in a spot where it's going to be a lot of schemes touches. You are pop Douglas is going to get. Yeah.

00:19:12 And it's how you get Corley and pop Douglas on the field at the same time, I think would be interesting.

00:19:17 I think you can, but I also think, you know, they're going to be switching off a little bit because they're both going to play in the slot. Yeah.

00:19:24 So I mean, that's my only concern with it. I think these are all good players. It's just, you know, how does the coaching staff seem fit together?

00:19:30 And that's that's what it comes down to. Right. And so. All right. So then third round.

00:19:35 Get to the third round, and this is where it gets interesting. This is where it gets interesting to me.

00:19:41 Michael Panics, Jr. is 68 in the third round, and I don't know if Panics is going to fall this far, but we talked about this last week.

00:19:49 Like, I don't know what the medical is going to look like ultimately. Right. But if the medicals look like they the way I think that they look like.

00:20:00 Right. I wouldn't be surprised to see him drop because he's a guy that I don't know if you can trust him long term.

00:20:10 If you're drafting a quarterback early in the draft, if you're drafting a guy in the first round or even the top of the second round,

00:20:17 you want that guy to be your starting quarterback for the next 10 years. That's what you want.

00:20:23 But at the end of the day, I don't know if you're going to get that from Michael Panics.

00:20:28 I just I don't know. And so if you won't. Then, you know, then he drops and if teams aren't confident, they'll get that, then he drops.

00:20:39 And that's a scenario that I see happening here is that Panics drops.

00:20:44 You're able to pick them up in the third round. And like I mean, and listen, if you only last five years, it only last five years.

00:20:50 Like it is what it is. But you take the chance on the talent that's there.

00:20:54 Yeah, I love I love the value here. I think it's very possible because I mean, I think we all saw Panics look awesome against Texas in the Sugar Bowl.

00:21:03 But, you know, let's remember, he is still a guy who was in college for six years, a guy with a lot of wear and tear on his body.

00:21:09 A guy who, despite all of the experience he has still has some holes in his game.

00:21:13 And he's going to have some, you know, we'll see what the medicals end up looking like him being there in the third round is very possible.

00:21:19 I wouldn't be shocked to see a team take a chance on a Spencer Rattler before him.

00:21:23 Yeah, I think Panics is a better quarterback right now, but I also wouldn't be shocked to see somebody take a chance on rather because of the untapped stuff there.

00:21:33 I think the value here on Panics is so good. It reminds me in a lot of ways of what Washington did with Sam Howell last year.

00:21:40 I think there's a lot of analogies between the two picks.

00:21:43 And, you know, Panics is somebody you can develop. I think he's a really, really good fit in AVP's offense.

00:21:50 I love the fit there. It's just, you know, does he remember now that Tyler Hughes, who was Washington's wide receiver coach last year, is now the Patriots wide receiver coach.

00:22:00 So he was there offensive assistant. That's correct. He was off his system.

00:22:04 So obviously has a ton of familiarity with Panics. Yeah. And so now you now you kind of go from there.

00:22:11 So I like that a lot. I like the thought of that a lot. He's a great leader, too.

00:22:16 I think he helps you. Absolutely. A ton there. He can take shots.

00:22:22 Really, the only concern with him to me is it's how we handle throw it under pressure over the middle of the field.

00:22:28 That's the big concern in his game, which you know who I was listening to the ringers draft podcast earlier today.

00:22:33 And you want to know who they compared him to, which I thought was interesting.

00:22:37 Russell Wilson, with his the fact that Wilson likes to go for the big throws and doesn't go over the middle.

00:22:44 OK, he's you know, he doesn't quite have that mobility.

00:22:47 I think he's probably better under pressure. He's better at avoiding sacks than Russell Wilson ever has been.

00:22:52 And he's 100% all out a lot faster. Yeah, but I think there's some similarities there.

00:22:58 And I know that one. That's a good one. Yeah. And if you get back, if you get a guy like that,

00:23:04 if he even ends up being an actual starting quarterback in the league, even if he's the bottom 10 starting quarterback in the league,

00:23:10 if he's an actual starting quarterback, that's totally fine as a bridge guy until you draft somebody else.

00:23:15 And, you know, it's a short term, two year solution.

00:23:18 And or you can draft somebody high next year with that other pick you get.

00:23:23 And you know, you get extra picks here. I really I really like the value.

00:23:26 I love the value because if it hits your set. Well, that's the thing, right?

00:23:30 It's all about it's all about trying to find the guy that gives you the best value in places.

00:23:35 So we'll see. You know, but that's that's where I'm at. OK, so I don't want to get I'm not going to do deep dives into any of anything from the from the fourth on.

00:23:45 But I will say one of the things I love about the mock drafts is being able to talk about some of these later round guys.

00:23:51 So like Marshawn Nealon is an edge. I hadn't had the Patriots taken in the fourth round.

00:23:57 Do they need an edge right now? Not necessarily, but like Matthew Jones getting a little bit older.

00:24:03 Josh, you should probably not going to come back, although I don't know.

00:24:07 And so I wouldn't be surprised to see them get an edge. I just I like Nealon's ability to play the run in the past.

00:24:14 And so that's why I went with him in the fourth round. He's not an explosive player.

00:24:17 He's not going to get you 10 sacks a year or something like that.

00:24:19 But he reminds me a little bit of the way that Anthony Jennings played this year.

00:24:24 A little bit, not not a little different player, but but I saw it a little bit.

00:24:29 And I go, I kind of like that. So he's got some good closing speed and whatnot.

00:24:31 So and then the fifth round, I had them taking another Washington player, Dylan Johnson, they're running back.

00:24:37 And he's a guy that I'm what I'm surprised about is that he's not going.

00:24:44 Earlier, and I don't understand why he's not going earlier, I don't know if was the injury at the end of the season or if people aren't, I don't know, but he's like that, I'm like, they can be like the Dylan Johnson from Washington.

00:24:56 I'm like, that can't be right. But everywhere I look, they had him as like a fifth, sixth, seventh round pick.

00:25:01 And I was like, OK, sure, fine, I guess. But yeah, I didn't I didn't understand it.

00:25:07 Yeah, I think he's I think he has a lot of wear and tear, if I'm remembering correctly, and that could be it.

00:25:11 Like he's just been used to tell me he's a good back. He's a complimentary back.

00:25:14 He'll fit right into your committee, plug and play. I like that.

00:25:18 And for the defensive end, Neyland, he was also at the senior bowl path of the senior bowl guys.

00:25:25 So, yeah, I think that is a fit there. And, you know, they like taken, you know, their their small school defensive ends, but some really good athletic traits.

00:25:35 Like that's something we've seen this team do time and time again. So it wouldn't shock me to see them do it here.

00:25:39 Yeah. Yep. So and then my last two picks were Tanner Bordalini from Wisconsin, Tanner Bordalini from Wisconsin.

00:25:47 We just tell you something about Tanner Bordalini. OK, this guy has played left guard, right guard, center and right tackle.

00:25:57 Like if that doesn't scream patriot to me, to you, I don't know what team you've been watching the last 20 years.

00:26:04 They love guys with position flexibility. It's the sixth round.

00:26:07 You're drafting a guy that, you know, you're drafting a guy that you want to just hopefully will be a backup for you one day and maybe can spot start here and there.

00:26:17 To get a guy that can play like four positions on the offensive line is crazy.

00:26:21 And so I like that a lot. That's why I took him.

00:26:25 And then Hayden Hatton from Idaho. Idaho is a middle of nowhere.

00:26:29 I mean, just absolutely like basically a really small school. He dominated the last two years at Idaho.

00:26:37 So I don't know how good he's actually going to be, but golly, he's got really great hands.

00:26:44 And so and so I like I like that a lot.

00:26:47 I don't Ryan Jackson and Bordalini was the one that got destroyed by a sweat.

00:26:50 I don't know if he was the one that got bent back by sweat.

00:26:54 He might have been, but I can't really blame him for getting destroyed by sweat.

00:26:58 He's like sweat's going to go in the top 10 probably as a tackle.

00:27:00 So, you know, that I don't want to say it's not a fair fight, but like you're talking about, you know, a first round pick versus a six round pick.

00:27:11 It's like, you know, he's not if we put this way, if you have to handle Bordalini in the sixth round and he's starting for you next year, you're in trouble.

00:27:18 So we'll just we'll put it that way. So yeah, but you know, yeah, no, I like it.

00:27:25 I like what you did here. So so we'll see.

00:27:29 But that's that's what I had going. And look, the idea is and we talk about this all the time.

00:27:34 Right. But the idea is when you do a mock draft, we don't know what the Patriots are thinking.

00:27:39 Right. We don't have any intel inside the building.

00:27:43 We don't know how they value guys or anything like that.

00:27:46 So to me, I'm trying to look at it and say, OK, well, what would they do?

00:27:52 If they didn't love a QB at three, if they looked at it and said, yeah, this guy isn't going to be, you know, isn't going to be the guy.

00:28:02 Right. And so, you know, that's why that's where I think you can trade down from.

00:28:08 All right. And I know Maff is upset about that and I don't blame you, but like because we did talk about the Marvin passing a Marvin Harrison Jr.

00:28:16 is a really tough proposition. But when you're when you're getting a ton of draft picks for the future,

00:28:21 when you're getting multiple picks for the future as well, it becomes difficult to pass on.

00:28:27 Again, I think if you think a quarterback is the guy and you're like this guy is the guy you take him, period, like end of story.

00:28:38 Wide receiver a little is a little bit more like, yes.

00:28:41 I mean, I wouldn't necessarily like guarantee, OK, don't take a quarter.

00:28:46 Don't take a wide receiver. But still, I don't know.

00:28:49 We'll see. I just I looked at it and just and just thought like I don't really know what they're going to do.

00:28:54 And so let's trade back and see what happens. And that's that's what I did with this one.

00:28:58 Yeah. Yeah. And I'm a fan of that strategy.

00:29:01 And I think it's somebody who's giving you future first round picks for that and a bunch of draft capital.

00:29:07 I think it's hard to turn that down. Not impossible.

00:29:10 It all depends on how you feel about the guys that are there.

00:29:13 But we know this team is years, plural, away from being where we want to get.

00:29:18 We want the Patriots to be back in championship contention, not just for a season, but for multiple seasons in a row.

00:29:24 You know, I don't know if we're going to get the 20 consecutive seasons like we got before,

00:29:28 but being able to get a franchise quarterback and be competitive year in and year out.

00:29:32 That's the goal here. The multiple seasons away from doing that and maximizing draft capital is a really good way to get to that point to build yourself up.

00:29:43 And, you know, we talked we kind of talked about like the Packers aspect of it here.

00:29:49 Now, that's the tie in with a lot of the front office stuff right now.

00:29:51 And it's a team that's notoriously homegrown.

00:29:55 They don't do a lot in free agency and not making a lot of trades, drafting and developing and keeping guys in house.

00:30:02 And, you know, I like that. I think that's a great thing for New England.

00:30:06 It also takes a couple of years to get to that point from where they are now.

00:30:09 And I'm sure, you know, if they make all the right offensive moves by the time that's done,

00:30:13 the defense is going to need to be rebuilt because those guys are going to get older and it's going to be a little bit.

00:30:18 So with that in mind, building some getting some foundational pieces here, a quality shot on a quarterback you might like and the future draft capital.

00:30:25 I think that's nailing it.

00:30:27 But I appreciate that. So also just a quick note for those of you listening out there,

00:30:32 I'm going to release we're going to end up probably releasing about six drafts when all is said and done.

00:30:38 And I never draft the same player twice in my marks.

00:30:43 And so I'm the same way. I'm not picking a single.

00:30:46 And so and so it's, you know, if you want me to take Marvin Harrison, Jr.

00:30:50 Number three, guess what? There's going to be a draft where I take Marvin Harrison, Jr.

00:30:54 Number three, like that's going to happen.

00:30:55 You know what I mean? So you can look at you can look at my last mock where I also have Marvin Harrison, Jr.

00:30:59 at England. And so that's the thing.

00:31:02 So so that's kind of the idea. I never make the same trade unless it's like unless I end up trading like a fourth round pick for something or something like that.

00:31:09 Maybe I'll end up making the same trade, but I try not to do that.

00:31:14 And I never make the same pick ever.

00:31:16 And so, again, the thought process is because mock draft season for me is about a lot of different things.

00:31:22 But for me, it's about educating myself and other people, too, on these lower round guys.

00:31:30 Right. We're not sitting here talking about Tanner Bordellini and, you know, and talking about his draft stock and, oh, how's he going to be in doing so?

00:31:38 I'm not doing that right. No one's doing that. But if you see him in a mock draft and then all of a sudden, like the Patriots draft, I mean, you're like, oh, wait, I think I saw something about this guy.

00:31:47 You can go back and look at some stuff on him and so on and so forth.

00:31:50 And so that's kind of the idea is like, let's talk about some later on, guys, but also let's talk about some possibilities.

00:31:56 So now we can go into this and just say, OK, instead of just sticking a three and drafting a guy, what are the different possibilities that we could that could come up as the Patriots go to draft?

00:32:05 So that's kind of the thought process, you know, when when we're making these mock drafts.

00:32:10 And so so that will happen.

00:32:13 DJ is asking for a trade with Justin Jefferson.

00:32:15 And look, I'm not ruling it out.

00:32:18 I'm not saying I'm going to do it, but I'm not ruling it out either.

00:32:21 So so we'll see. Yeah.

00:32:24 Yeah. I want to default name.

00:32:29 Well, that username mentions in there about the Vikings trying to move up into the top three for quarterback to which is something that apparently they tried to move up for quarterback last year.

00:32:38 My question for you, Pat, is this if that happens and they're willing to walk from Kirk Cousins?

00:32:42 Yep. Are you thinking about him in New England?

00:32:45 Hell yeah. So imagine imagine now, right.

00:32:50 The Patriots move out of three.

00:32:53 Now, here's what doesn't make any sense to me.

00:32:55 Why would you trade your best wide receiver?

00:32:58 When you're drafting a rookie quarterback, that makes zero sense.

00:33:01 So like I don't I don't understand, I don't buy the Justin Jefferson trade, especially if the Vikings are trying to move up to three.

00:33:09 That makes absolutely no sense to me.

00:33:11 And so, you know, if you're getting a rookie quarterback, you kind of want him to have like a number one receiver.

00:33:19 Right. And so look what happened to to Bryce Young last year.

00:33:23 Bryson didn't have a wide receiver and half a year.

00:33:25 They were like, you know, we can really use right now is a number one wide receiver.

00:33:28 And I'm not saying DJ Moore is a number one wide receiver, but.

00:33:32 I mean, he's pretty good, you know, so like so trading him away to move up to get to number one was stupid.

00:33:40 And so I don't imagine them trading Justin Jefferson, but.

00:33:45 If you're talking about.

00:33:47 The Patriots move into 11 and picking up two future first round picks.

00:33:52 I'm OK with that, I am absolutely OK with that.

00:33:56 And then, as you say, go out and free agency with your hundred million dollars and sign Kirk Cousins.

00:34:02 Right. And then at 11, draft a left tackle or again, move up and take a left tackle, whatever the case may be.

00:34:08 Right. Well, the funny thing in this scenario, too, is that you've signed Kirk Cousins first.

00:34:11 So you've taken the Vikings quarterback and then taken our draft capital when they go to replace him.

00:34:17 Which would be funny. I also think, you know, if you sign Kirk Cousins and he wants to come to New England, you just draft Marvin Harrison Jr.

00:34:23 You just I I would argue you just do that.

00:34:26 And, you know, you a guy who is not going to be as good as Justin Jefferson when he gets into the league,

00:34:31 but a guy who you're really thinking should become that quality of a player.

00:34:34 And right. All right. Now we're now we got something.

00:34:38 You add those two guys to what we had on the scene last year.

00:34:41 If you can fix the offensive line at all, you got a competitive team in year one.

00:34:46 Well, that's the only that's the only question to me is, do you value wide receiver or left tackle?

00:34:51 Right. If you look at it and say I can move to eight, let's just say let's say it's Atlanta that wants to move up to three for a quarterback.

00:35:00 Fine. You make a trade with Atlanta. You move back to three.

00:35:03 Atlanta gives you a boatload for their pick.

00:35:06 And at eight, you draft Fashano or Alt depending on who's there.

00:35:09 And now you're looking at it saying, OK, we picked up a bunch of draft capital.

00:35:14 We signed a veteran quarterback and we're getting left tackle that we want.

00:35:19 And we're going to draft a wide receiver in the second round, right, because there's a lot of tackles on the board.

00:35:23 There's not a ton of them that are proven left tackles.

00:35:26 Right. There's some good right tackles, some really good right tackles.

00:35:29 But outside of the top two, once you get the left tackle, it's kind of unproven, guys.

00:35:34 It's guys that you just like you think they can do it, but you're not sure on.

00:35:39 Well, on even round one, I mean, I like these guys, but there's no like sure thing.

00:35:44 Plug him in day one. He's going to be a quality starter.

00:35:47 They're all a little bit developmental.

00:35:49 And I think that I would prioritize tackle over wide receiver.

00:35:54 But I also think Marvin Harrison Jr. is a different tier of prospect than the tackles that are there.

00:35:59 And I think, you know, it's what's the the old memes we were talking about with the Bengals and Penes will versus Jamar Chase.

00:36:08 It's good. It would be that situation again.

00:36:10 And, you know, if the receiver is as good as you think he is, that also solves a lot of your past protection issues because you can get the ball out so fast and you can do a lot of different things through the air.

00:36:21 And you can be in good situations consistently to avoid a pass rush.

00:36:26 Right. Oh, and that's it's it's a good it's a really good point of doing that.

00:36:32 And I like I like the idea of that, right, is if you sign a guy like Cousins.

00:36:38 You do that, right, and Ryan says like Penny Sewell turned out OK.

00:36:41 He absolutely did. Hundred percent right.

00:36:43 They both both teams made the right move, I think.

00:36:45 And that's the thing, right, is that if you're the Bengals, would you rather have Penny Sewell than than Jamar Chase?

00:36:52 I don't think so. You know, and so that's that's the thing is where you look at it and say, you know, would you trade back?

00:37:00 Would you redo it? Right. And I don't think that they would.

00:37:03 I assume they wouldn't. I mean, they made the Super Bowl, you know what I mean?

00:37:06 And so they had a lead late in the Super Bowl and the Lions got to the NFC Championship and had a lead in the second half of the NFC Championship.

00:37:14 Like I think both of those teams have to be happy with their team building and more than one way to do this.

00:37:19 So sometimes sometimes I think you just take the best guy on the board.

00:37:23 A hundred percent. And you go from there.

00:37:25 That's the way it is. So, yep.

00:37:27 And I like DJ in the comments, too, saying signing a tackle, QB and wide receiver in free agency before the draft triples that value of the pick because, you know, you can maximize it and you're not forced into a certain position.

00:37:39 I think that nails it. And I think we're going to see the Patriots make at least somewhat quality signings in all three spots.

00:37:45 You have to you have to because you can't go into and we talked about this last year and they didn't really do anything to help the cause last year.

00:37:53 But like you can't go into the draft saying we absolutely 100 percent need this position in three and it's three.

00:38:00 So it's a little different than you were at 14.

00:38:02 But still, like we can't go into this draft saying, well, we just don't have a tackle.

00:38:07 So we have to draft a tackle at some point.

00:38:09 Are we going to draft tackle at three?

00:38:10 I don't know.

00:38:12 But like, well, maybe we should trade back because we need to tackle or like when you really need a wide receiver, should we draft a wide receiver?

00:38:17 Those are the questions like to me, you sign guys if you can.

00:38:20 And I don't think Baker is going to be available, but maybe it's to go to preset.

00:38:24 Do I want to go to preset starting here next year as the start of not really?

00:38:28 But if I draft a quarterback in the second or third round.

00:38:32 You know, like I don't I don't hate it.

00:38:34 So that's that's kind of the way I look at it.

00:38:36 You know, we'll see.

00:38:37 But that's kind of the way I look at it.

00:38:38 So, yeah, a long way to go.

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00:40:01 So, alright, let's get into some of these user or listener mock... I keep saying user.

00:40:07 Some of these listener mock drafts here.

00:40:09 And I don't know if we should share the screen.

00:40:13 What do you think I should do?

00:40:14 Do you think I should share the screen here?

00:40:16 I would just read it off.

00:40:17 I think we're going to do a graphic in the future, but I didn't have that ready for tonight.

00:40:20 So I think we're just going to read off the mocks.

00:40:22 Alright, so let's do it.

00:40:23 So I got the first one here has Caleb Williams dropping to three.

00:40:28 Whose mock is it, by the way?

00:40:29 Do we have a name on the mock?

00:40:31 Uh, do we do?

00:40:33 I think it's, I think it's, uh, I think it's Nelson.

00:40:36 Okay.

00:40:37 I think it's Nelson, Nelson Lloyd here.

00:40:39 Who's it?

00:40:39 It was in the chat right now.

00:40:40 Um, so let's take a look.

00:40:43 So we have Caleb Williams at three and then a billion trades, which I'm loving all over the place.

00:40:49 I love it.

00:40:50 Patrick Paul at 39.

00:40:52 Ricky Pierce all at 85.

00:40:54 It looks like Javon Baker, uh, at, uh, at 130.

00:41:00 Dylan Loughbee at 135.

00:41:03 Javon Foster, two Javons loving that at one 44 is an offensive tackle from Miss, uh, Missouri.

00:41:09 Dillon Hooker, who's from Colorado tight end for Colorado state one 57.

00:41:13 And then he's got a whole bunch of late round picks too.

00:41:17 That I'll highlight though.

00:41:18 Jay Lux hunt.

00:41:19 Who've talked about before from Houston, Christian edge from Houston, Christian.

00:41:22 Um, and Bob means, uh, the wide receiver from Pittsburgh.

00:41:29 I mean, if you don't want Bob means on the team, but business, come on now.

00:41:34 So, um, that's a solid mock.

00:41:36 I mean, look, I don't know.

00:41:37 I don't, I don't think Caleb's going to drop to three, but you never know.

00:41:40 And again, you just draft what comes to you.

00:41:43 What are you going to do?

00:41:43 You know?

00:41:44 So, um, I like that.

00:41:46 I do like, we've talked about Patrick Paul.

00:41:48 I think we've talked about Patrick Paul in here.

00:41:50 I like him.

00:41:50 He's more of a developmental guy, but I do think he has the potential to be a left tackle in the NFL.

00:41:58 Yeah.

00:41:58 And so we'll see developmental still, but I like that.

00:42:02 And Pierce all reminds me of an Adelman.

00:42:07 Yeah.

00:42:08 He's got that same attitude.

00:42:10 Right, right.

00:42:11 He's a little bit more thick than some of the other guys.

00:42:13 And as a matter of fact, uh, Phil Perry was talking about him on his, uh, on his

00:42:16 show this week.

00:42:17 I like him.

00:42:18 I just don't know if he fits where you have pop already, but, um, but I mean,

00:42:25 she doesn't hold a talent on that draft.

00:42:28 Yeah.

00:42:28 I think he could play a little bit outside.

00:42:30 I'm not sure.

00:42:31 Um, yeah, yeah.

00:42:33 Yeah.

00:42:33 All right.

00:42:35 And then Nelson's had another one actually.

00:42:37 Um, so he, he actually traded back to seven here and I don't know what, see

00:42:43 the, what's weird about PFN profile network is that they don't give you like a lot of

00:42:48 times if you, um, trade back and get like extra picks in future years, they don't,

00:42:54 they don't say that.

00:42:56 So I don't know either way.

00:42:58 I think, I think, uh, but here's what we got.

00:43:00 So Joel at seven, move back to seven, take your all Darius Robinson.

00:43:06 Who's an edge from Ole miss at 37, 38.

00:43:10 Bo Nix, obviously QB from Oregon.

00:43:13 And then Roman Wilson at 68.

00:43:15 And then he's got some of those same guys, but Quentin Newsome as a corner from

00:43:19 Nebraska and he has Brandt Couth, a tight end from Utah.

00:43:24 So, you know, some, some later round guys, again, decent amount of picks at the end

00:43:28 of that, at the end of the draft there.

00:43:29 But, um, again, PFN does a nice job of, um, Of offering trades, which is nice.

00:43:37 Not every site does that, where you have to go in and make the trades.

00:43:40 If they offer the trade, then it's a lot easier to just accept

00:43:42 a trade that's been offered to you.

00:43:43 Um, and so you see a lot of those, um, you see a lot of those like later round

00:43:49 trades in a PFN because they will actually kind of go from there.

00:43:53 You know what I mean?

00:43:53 They'll actually like, Hey, would you want this trade?

00:43:56 So, um, I like that, but I like that a lot.

00:43:59 Joe Walsh getting Joe all the seven would be really nice.

00:44:01 Bo Nix scares the hell out of me, but I don't know, man.

00:44:07 Like I, he scares me, but in the second round, I'm kind of fine value, but I'm,

00:44:15 but I'm kind of like, I'm okay.

00:44:16 Drafting Bo Nix in the second round.

00:44:18 Yeah.

00:44:19 Uh, I'm totally there.

00:44:20 I think depending on where in the second round, too, there's a lot of quarterbacks.

00:44:24 I could be okay with taking, I might not love it, but if the team would

00:44:28 like it, then I can get on board.

00:44:29 Right.

00:44:30 Right.

00:44:31 So, so that's, that's where I'm at with that.

00:44:33 So, all right.

00:44:34 Old man, Mark has sent, sent a few old man, Mark, old man, mom, but old man, Mark,

00:44:38 in this case, uh, has, has sent one.

00:44:41 Um, and let's see what it looks like.

00:44:44 So he sent two here.

00:44:46 Um, so he has Drake made three Jalen McMillan.

00:44:51 So he moved back from, from 34 to 44 takes Jalen McMillan.

00:44:57 Uh, again, Patrick Paul, Cam Hart, the corner from Notre Dame.

00:45:02 What I like Braylon Allen from Wisconsin, Jaheim Bell from Florida state, then

00:45:08 Tez Walker and then Trent Jones from Michigan.

00:45:12 So, I mean, anytime you can get a mission, Trent, Trent Jones,

00:45:16 is there Jones?

00:45:17 Yes.

00:45:17 He's, he's good.

00:45:18 He's actually on Tik TOK.

00:45:20 It's a fairly active user on there.

00:45:23 Right.

00:45:23 He seems, he seems like a fun guy, but I like that draft.

00:45:27 That's a fun one.

00:45:28 So, yep.

00:45:29 So there's that.

00:45:30 And then here's another one.

00:45:32 So he traded back from three to 11 here and drafted Talizy, uh,

00:45:38 Fouaga from Oregon state offensive tackle.

00:45:41 Keon Coleman at 34, Penix at 42.

00:45:45 And again, Patrick Paul, Cam Hart, Jaheim Bell, Jordan Jefferson from LSU.

00:45:52 And he actually has a Bo Limmer as well from, uh, from Arkansas.

00:45:57 Um, for, for three, he got 11, 42 and one 30.

00:46:04 And I think, I think he got a future first in here too.

00:46:07 And it just doesn't pop up, but either way, I like the trades.

00:46:10 I think it's interesting.

00:46:11 Um, when you look at, you know, what, what it comes up there.

00:46:17 And so again, we don't know, but that's kind of the whole point

00:46:20 is that we don't know.

00:46:21 Right.

00:46:22 And so that's a, you know, when you talk about a guy like Fouaga, right.

00:46:27 Not a lot of people were talking about him in the first round, but is he a

00:46:31 guy that can play left tackle right.

00:46:34 Do the Patriots look at him as a guy that can play left tackle.

00:46:36 Right.

00:46:37 Um, you know, and what the talent evaluators look like.

00:46:40 And again, this is where you have to, you have to trust your evaluation.

00:46:43 If you look at Talisi Fouaga and say, well, we can draft Fouaga and get.

00:46:49 You know, close to as good production as we're going to get from for

00:46:53 Sean or alt, or we love this guy.

00:46:55 And we think he might even be better than them at some point.

00:46:58 And we can get extra capital.

00:47:01 Then let's do it, you know, and we'll take them maybe four or five or even

00:47:06 eight picks earlier than people think, because we want to make sure we get them.

00:47:09 You know?

00:47:10 Yeah.

00:47:12 So that's a good one.

00:47:14 I like that one again, the mocks to me, it's like, I want to see, I want to see

00:47:20 new names, I want to see new players.

00:47:22 I want to see, you know what I mean?

00:47:23 And, uh, and so that's what I got here.

00:47:26 All right.

00:47:26 So let's see, this is from Tim.

00:47:29 He has the Patriots moving back from three to six, uh, picking up, actually

00:47:37 giving up, giving up three and one Oh four.

00:47:40 Picking up six and 70 and their first round pick next year from the giants.

00:47:45 Okay.

00:47:45 And then drafting Jaden Daniels at six, which is interesting.

00:47:50 Now I don't know who the hell the giants traded up for, if that's not the case,

00:47:52 but nevertheless, whatever dude.

00:47:54 Uh, and then Tyler Guyton at 34, which again, Tyler Guyton's a guy in the second

00:47:59 round, I like him a lot.

00:48:00 Will he be there in the second round?

00:48:02 Will he go in the first?

00:48:03 I'm not sure.

00:48:04 Um, but I liked the idea of, of Tyler Guyton in that second round.

00:48:09 If he's, if he's, if he's there, I love that.

00:48:12 Yeah.

00:48:13 Yep.

00:48:13 So, and then Kalen Bullock, who's a safety from USC, uh, in the third round,

00:48:18 again, that it just depends on who knows what's going to happen, you know, with

00:48:23 Duggar, if Duggar's around and maybe you don't need that pick, but if he isn't,

00:48:26 then you, you know, you probably gonna prioritize safety a little bit more.

00:48:30 And then Blake Fisher in the third round from Notre Dame, who I like, uh, quite a

00:48:35 bit, really good, really good value on Blake Fisher there.

00:48:38 Yep.

00:48:39 And so that's kind of the idea.

00:48:40 And again, you know, will any of these happen?

00:48:43 We don't know, right?

00:48:44 No one knows, but the idea is we're throwing things at the wall.

00:48:47 We're seeing what's there.

00:48:48 We're seeing what's going on.

00:48:49 Um, and so I think I already, I already, I already was on.

00:48:54 All right, let's hold on.

00:48:56 Uh, the next one.

00:48:57 Oh, from dad, from our guy, that over here, uh, he had the Patriots moving

00:49:02 back to nine taking Joe Walt again.

00:49:06 There you go.

00:49:06 I like that.

00:49:07 Um, lad McConkey at 34.

00:49:10 Let's go.

00:49:11 Uh, Brandon Dorius edge from Oregon at 68.

00:49:15 Another Kaelin Bull exciting Cade Stover from Ohio state at one Oh four.

00:49:20 I'm a fan of, which I'm a fan of, and here we go.

00:49:23 Here we go.

00:49:24 One 22 Jordan Travis from Florida state.

00:49:29 All right.

00:49:30 So we haven't talked about Jordan Travis, Jordan Travis, of course, quarterback

00:49:33 from Florida state got hurt at the end of the year, which is why Jordan, which is

00:49:37 why Jordan trips, which is why Florida state did not make the final four.

00:49:41 Um, I think pretty much everyone's in agreement that if Jordan Travis were

00:49:44 healthy, they would have been in the, the, uh, the championship, right.

00:49:49 And not in the championship, but you get what I'm saying in the playoff.

00:49:52 Um, and so I don't know, I'm not sure, but shoot.

00:50:00 I mean, where I think he has him at one 22 here at one 22.

00:50:06 If we've gotten other things and, you know, we're trying to take a shot

00:50:11 at a, on a flyer at a guy, Jordan Travis is a hell of a flyer to take, I think.

00:50:15 Um, and so I'd have, I'd have absolutely no issue with that.

00:50:18 If you're talking about, you know, middle of the fourth round, absolutely jump at it.

00:50:23 Yeah.

00:50:24 I still got to watch some of this tape.

00:50:25 That's one guy who I haven't watched at all.

00:50:27 So I can't comment too much on him, but, um, you know, it's probably going

00:50:33 to take a quarterback somewhere.

00:50:34 And he's a good prospect is you're going to get at that spot in the draft.

00:50:38 So if there's stuff on tape, if they like, that's you just do it.

00:50:42 Well, and that's, and what it comes down to, to me, and I don't know, but to me,

00:50:47 what it comes down to is that I don't know what he's done on film, right.

00:50:52 As far as making the tight throws and reading coverages and do it.

00:50:56 I don't know, but my goodness, I'll tell you to me, it's what happens in.

00:51:04 Like in the meeting room on the whiteboard, Hey, draw things up,

00:51:08 talk to us with this, but that's why CJ, that's why the Texans love CJ Stroud.

00:51:12 And you can see it on the field.

00:51:13 You can see Stroud understanding what's going on defensively and being able to

00:51:18 read a defense and make it through his progressions and make the right

00:51:21 throws into the right places.

00:51:22 Now, maybe he didn't do that all the time at Ohio state.

00:51:24 Maybe he wasn't asked to do that all the time in Ohio state.

00:51:27 Maybe Jordan Travis wasn't asked to do that all the time.

00:51:29 As far as if we don't know.

00:51:30 Right.

00:51:31 And so, but if they get him in the, in the meeting room and he gets on the

00:51:34 whiteboard and like, bro, wait a second.

00:51:36 We, we like this, right?

00:51:38 We like this kid.

00:51:39 Yeah.

00:51:40 I think you take a shot at him.

00:51:41 So yeah, go for it.

00:51:43 Yep.

00:51:44 Yep.

00:51:44 So we'll see.

00:51:45 I like that.

00:51:46 And then I think I have, I think there's one more.

00:51:48 Not a wait.

00:51:52 Yeah, hold on.

00:51:53 There is one more.

00:51:54 This one's from Ashton.

00:51:56 Our guy Ashton over here.

00:51:58 Let's see.

00:51:59 All right.

00:52:01 Move back to nine.

00:52:03 Move back to nine takes Jaden Daniels at nine.

00:52:06 Ooh.

00:52:06 Okay.

00:52:07 Okay.

00:52:07 Uh, Kingsley, uh, golly.

00:52:12 Sue Montala, I think from BYU, the offensive tackle at 34 again, Roman

00:52:19 Williams, Wilson, Chris Jenkins from Michigan.

00:52:22 D tackle.

00:52:23 I like him.

00:52:24 Let me just, I'm going to comment the, the Michigan defensive tackles this year.

00:52:28 They have a couple and like, I don't know if any of them are going to be stars,

00:52:32 but they're all just like really good athletes, really solid, really good in a

00:52:36 rotation.

00:52:37 And I think any of them would be a fit in new England.

00:52:39 And I think they got guys coming out next year too.

00:52:41 So yeah.

00:52:42 Yep.

00:52:42 I like it.

00:52:43 Pick it.

00:52:43 I think any of them, you're going to make me happy.

00:52:45 Oh yeah.

00:52:46 We, we know, we know he's got Roman Wilson.

00:52:48 He's got Roman Wilson in this draft too.

00:52:49 So he's just pandering to you at this point.

00:52:51 Um, so, but, uh, but then what are the bloodlines?

00:52:56 What do you say?

00:52:56 Buttering me up.

00:52:58 Absolutely.

00:52:59 Then he went bloodlines and took Brendan rice in the, uh, in the fourth round and

00:53:03 Frank Gord jr.

00:53:04 In the seventh round, uh, from Southern miss.

00:53:06 And so, uh, Hey man, I'll take a shot at bloodlines.

00:53:10 You got to tell me, you're going to tell me you would have a problem

00:53:13 drafting Brendan rice.

00:53:14 Come on now.

00:53:14 It's Jerry Rice's son.

00:53:15 He's got to be at least decent.

00:53:17 He can't be bad.

00:53:19 I don't know if he'll be good, but he can't be bad.

00:53:20 That's what I mean.

00:53:21 You know?

00:53:22 So, um, but yes, moving back to nine and taking Daniel still at nine.

00:53:27 That's interesting because I don't know if I love things at three, but at nine.

00:53:31 Yeah.

00:53:33 Depending on what's on the board now, you know, I don't know if I'm taking

00:53:35 them over Joe Walt or even for Shanu, but like, golly, man, that's, you know?

00:53:40 Um, so anyways, so that's it.

00:53:44 Thank you so much for sending, for sending those in.

00:53:46 Uh, we got one more.

00:53:47 It's DJ.

00:53:50 Did it take Bronte James too?

00:53:52 He did not take funny James, but Hey, listen, I will take Bronte James.

00:53:56 If that means LeBron's going to switch careers and come in over to the NFL.

00:54:00 I will take them.

00:54:00 I will take Bronte jr.

00:54:02 Either of the Patriots.

00:54:04 If you can put LeBron any spot in new England's offense, you'd probably be better

00:54:08 than what they had out there last year.

00:54:10 Probably.

00:54:10 Yeah, probably.

00:54:11 We had one other mock, by the way.

00:54:13 Oh yes.

00:54:14 That's right.

00:54:14 Yes.

00:54:14 Sent to us by our friend, Josh Bowman, who, um, didn't know what the email was

00:54:20 and just texted me his mock draft earlier today.

00:54:22 I like it.

00:54:23 So I'll read it off here.

00:54:25 Uh, he has to Patriot starting off with a trade back.

00:54:28 They trade back with Atlanta and pick up a second, a third, another third

00:54:33 and a second round or next year.

00:54:34 So whole bunch of day two picks to move back five spots.

00:54:38 They go Joe Walt.

00:54:40 A pick eight JJ McCarthy pick 34 edge defender, a decent Isaac at 43 out of Penn

00:54:49 state.

00:54:49 This is the guy who played across from chop Robinson.

00:54:52 And some people really, really like what they've seen from him as kind

00:54:56 of the other edge on that line.

00:54:58 Then we're going to double dip at wide receiver 68 Jalen McMillan, 74 Xavier

00:55:04 Leggett.

00:55:05 Love that combo back to back.

00:55:07 That's a, you got the, the shifty savvy deep threat slot guy in McMillan and

00:55:14 then just the power guy in Leggett compliment each other.

00:55:18 Yep.

00:55:18 Halfback Jalen Wright pick 86 from Tennessee.

00:55:23 He is fast.

00:55:24 That's the guy who I'm going to be curious how he tests.

00:55:26 Cause he's a fast guy on tape.

00:55:28 Yeah, we have, is this, I can't tell if there's a trade off or a trade down.

00:55:33 It's a trade down.

00:55:34 Patriots trade down from pick 79, which is one of the ones they got in the

00:55:39 Falcons trade pickup and extra two extra fifths.

00:55:43 So they get linebacker Tommy Eichenberg at pick 99, then a trade up.

00:55:51 Wait, did they traded back and then they trade up?

00:55:53 Eichenberg is from the trade up.

00:55:55 Got it.

00:55:56 Okay.

00:55:56 Josh, you're putting me through the ringer here.

00:55:58 Oh, we got a lot left to

00:56:02 the end of it.

00:56:05 Come on, man.

00:56:06 Let's go cliff notes, cliff notes.

00:56:08 Tight end Ben Sinnett pick 135.

00:56:11 Another Kansas state guy.

00:56:13 Yeah.

00:56:15 Cooper BB at one 36 tight end out of Michigan.

00:56:19 AJ Barner at one 68, really good blocking tight end.

00:56:22 Okay.

00:56:23 Double dip attorney.

00:56:24 And I like it.

00:56:24 Yeah.

00:56:25 Corner Nehemiah Pritchett from Auburn at one 82.

00:56:29 I like that.

00:56:30 That's a really good value there.

00:56:32 He also has your boy Tanner Bordellini at two 16 defensive lineman from Alabama,

00:56:38 Tim Smith to round it out at pick two 51.

00:56:42 So thanks for that one, Josh.

00:56:43 Love it.

00:56:44 It's good.

00:56:44 That's good.

00:56:45 So like I say, we're like you said, Matt, earlier, we are going to, um,

00:56:50 we are gonna like come up with a little bit of a graphic so that you can

00:56:53 actually see what's going on.

00:56:54 And we're not just reading to you like a, like a bunch of dummies.

00:56:57 Uh, but we will get it.

00:56:58 We will get it set up, um, for you.

00:57:01 Look, I think that there are good things and there are bad things

00:57:05 about all of the mocks, right?

00:57:06 And that's, that's part of the fun of doing it, right.

00:57:09 Is that you come away from the mock and sometimes you're like, ah, yeah, I don't.

00:57:12 I don't love that mark, but then you look back and you're like, oh, it's

00:57:16 actually some good stuff in there.

00:57:18 Right.

00:57:18 So, um, you know, I think that that's interesting.

00:57:21 DJ just said trade number three to Denver for 12, but 2025 first

00:57:27 Garrett Bowles and Cortland Sutton.

00:57:29 That's interesting.

00:57:32 That's a fascinating one.

00:57:33 Um, I don't know.

00:57:36 That's seems like a lot for them to give up.

00:57:38 I know Corlin Sutton, they may want to move on from him.

00:57:41 Part of that's contract stuff.

00:57:43 That's why you're getting some of those guys.

00:57:44 Correct.

00:57:45 Yeah.

00:57:46 But Garrett Bowles is overall is a good player at left tackle.

00:57:50 He's a guy who can plug in at left tackle and start there.

00:57:53 He's not going to be a world beater, but he's pretty good.

00:57:55 And Cortland Sutton is kind of the same way, right?

00:57:58 It's not really a separator, you know, but I'll tell you what, man.

00:58:03 Holy crap.

00:58:05 He made some unbelievable catches last year.

00:58:08 So, uh,

00:58:10 Portland Sutton is like Devante Parker, but like three or four years younger.

00:58:14 Yes.

00:58:15 But like, he's like the body part of it.

00:58:17 Good.

00:58:17 And I hate it now.

00:58:19 I will tell you, right.

00:58:20 I hate the injury issues.

00:58:22 That's the problem.

00:58:23 I hated him going into this year.

00:58:24 He proved me wrong, but you know, yeah, it just can't stay healthy.

00:58:30 Yeah.

00:58:30 He doesn't, he doesn't separate and he's can't stay healthy.

00:58:34 And like, I'd like, like, I think that's an upgrade for new England.

00:58:36 You just move on from Parker.

00:58:37 Um, but I don't know if it's a longterm.

00:58:40 I think that's a, he's, he is, I think at best you're, you're wide receiver

00:58:44 to unlike a super bowl winning team, you know, which is fine for now.

00:58:46 We're not winning the super bowl next year.

00:58:48 We're building something.

00:58:49 Uh, right.

00:58:49 Right.

00:58:50 But so you're definitely still looking to add to the wide receiver room.

00:58:53 A hundred percent.

00:58:54 I would do that.

00:58:55 Well, what you do by, by making that trade, what you do is you make yourself,

00:59:01 you make it so that you don't have a glaring hole at wide receiver and you

00:59:06 don't have a glaring hole at left tackle.

00:59:08 Now, could you get better at left tackle?

00:59:09 Yeah.

00:59:10 Could you get better at wide receiver?

00:59:11 Yeah.

00:59:12 But you're not looking at it saying, Oh crap.

00:59:14 Like we're totally screwed because we don't have anyone at

00:59:17 either of these positions.

00:59:17 Right.

00:59:18 And so that's kind of the idea is you look at it and say, okay, that's, that's

00:59:22 interesting.

00:59:23 And so who knows if that would happen?

00:59:25 Um, but, but I like, I like the idea there.

00:59:28 So, all right.

00:59:30 Um, did you want to, there are a few other things that we wanted to cover before.

00:59:36 Of course, the combine start this week on Thursday.

00:59:38 Um, uh, Elliott Wolf's going to speak to the media tomorrow, which is interesting.

00:59:43 Um, and so the first time, you know, so we'll see kind of where that goes.

00:59:48 Um, one note that I think the only thing I wanted to mention, which I thought

00:59:52 it was interesting, um, we are seeing a trend of coaches in general and front

00:59:57 office guys in general, not going to the combine, um, in large part, because

01:00:03 for everything I've read, there was a lot of organizations that feel like they

01:00:06 actually just do the work better when they're, you know, at home in their

01:00:10 office and they don't send anybody, but you know, the big decision makers, you

01:00:13 can watch on TV and see everything you need to see there and get all in all the

01:00:17 measurements.

01:00:18 You know, you're going to get all of that.

01:00:19 And a lot of the interviews you're going to do in other places anyway.

01:00:21 Um, that said Gerard Mayo will be there, right?

01:00:25 Yep.

01:00:26 I think we saw.

01:00:27 Yep.

01:00:27 And I like that he's going because he's a young head coach in his first year.

01:00:32 And this is where you make connections.

01:00:34 I don't care about what he's going to be there for the evaluative stuff.

01:00:37 I care about building relations for, you know, future coaches that might have to

01:00:42 come to new England or building trade partners for later in the off season or

01:00:47 down the road.

01:00:48 I think that's a key part of being a head coach.

01:00:50 And that's the same goes for, you know, everybody that's new in their roles right

01:00:54 now for anybody that is going to be there.

01:00:56 Getting that experience and building that I think is good after that.

01:00:59 I'm not sure they need to be there next year, but I'm glad they're there this

01:01:03 year.

01:01:03 Yeah.

01:01:03 I mean, I, you know, I wonder about the, about the meetings and meeting with

01:01:09 players.

01:01:10 That's really all I wonder about, you know, you hear, you hear some of the

01:01:13 stories, right?

01:01:15 And so for instance, the, the, the, uh, Brandon spike story, have you ever heard

01:01:21 of, I ever told you the Brandon spikes?

01:01:22 Um, have you heard about the Brandon spike story?

01:01:25 So from, from what I have heard, and this is, I feel, I think common knowledge, at

01:01:31 least from what I heard it from, I don't even remember where.

01:01:33 Second party, third party, fourth, whatever it was.

01:01:36 Right.

01:01:36 But they sat, they, they met with spikes, um, before the draft.

01:01:41 Now he had the combine before the draft, he went to Florida, had won a championship

01:01:45 in Florida.

01:01:46 Right.

01:01:46 And, uh, and they were like, okay, you know, we like this guy, like he's a good

01:01:51 player.

01:01:51 This and that, but he sits down and like, you know, Hey, what do you think about

01:01:57 like your, you know, individual accolades?

01:01:58 Like, how would you, you know, how would you describe your individual performance

01:02:02 like on the football field?

01:02:03 And you know, is that important to you?

01:02:04 And he was like, man, and he like bang the table.

01:02:09 He was like, no one gives a shit about your goddamn individual performance.

01:02:14 He's the only, the only thing that matters.

01:02:16 And he took his ring off and he goes, is one of these and just, and just like

01:02:20 banging on the table and Patriots like, all right, we want this guy, like, you

01:02:24 know, and so, and again, now, but that was, that was the moment for him that he

01:02:29 became a Patriot.

01:02:30 Right.

01:02:30 And so if you're not in the room, that doesn't happen, you know?

01:02:35 And so, so we'll see, you know, I mean, it's, it's not, it's not necessarily

01:02:40 the, um, it's not the end all be all right.

01:02:43 But I do think it's good to interview the guys.

01:02:47 And again, I don't, I don't know.

01:02:49 Um, I don't know when you look at who's going to be there.

01:02:55 I don't know if you're going to meet with guys, you're not necessarily going

01:02:58 to be bringing in, but at the same time, you know, you never know, you might meet

01:03:04 with a guy and you'd be like, eh, I don't know how I feel about this guy.

01:03:07 And then you sit down with him.

01:03:08 You're like, wow, this guy's really smart and, and knows what he's doing

01:03:11 and knows what he's talking about.

01:03:12 And so like, maybe he's a better fit than we thought, you know?

01:03:15 So I don't know.

01:03:15 Well, the flip side of it too, is didn't they have a pre-draft with

01:03:19 Gronk at some point and he completely tanked the meeting.

01:03:22 It didn't matter.

01:03:23 Like he's still, no, I still don't know, pick it up.

01:03:25 But he's still a little being great.

01:03:26 Now, if you're, if you're good enough, it doesn't matter, right?

01:03:30 If you're good enough, it makes, it makes no difference.

01:03:31 And that's part of the things that I've heard, you know, Gronk was by some people

01:03:36 in the organization was given a perfect 10 and like, I know that doesn't seem

01:03:41 like a big deal, but in their old ratings, which by the way, they're moving away

01:03:44 from, but in their old rating system, it was almost impossible to get a perfect.

01:03:48 Like almost impossible.

01:03:49 The only issues with him, I think were like, you know, injury and

01:03:53 off field on field performance.

01:03:55 Yep.

01:03:56 And so that was a thing is on field was literally a 10 because he was an

01:03:59 unbelievable blocker and he was an unbelievable receiver.

01:04:03 And if he could see how he's going to be, you knew, you knew he could develop

01:04:07 into something better than what he was in college too, which he ended up doing.

01:04:11 Yep.

01:04:11 So, yeah, I don't know.

01:04:14 And I'm curious to see their approach at this and you know, what comes out of this.

01:04:17 They also have, um, I've heard Pat's cat was talking about, they have a couple of

01:04:21 weeks now to cut JC Jackson before like money vests or something.

01:04:25 So that's something for a future episode, but they do have a clock on that.

01:04:29 If they are going to cut JC Jackson, which I assume they're going to do.

01:04:33 Uh, if not, if not, they'd have to, they'd certainly have to renegotiate his deal.

01:04:40 Now, maybe there's a chance that they're looking at it saying we want it.

01:04:43 We want to keep them around and renegotiate, but I don't see why

01:04:47 they're not just cutting them now.

01:04:48 Yeah.

01:04:49 I think you got to do that soon.

01:04:50 The other thing we didn't talk about, I know what it is.

01:04:53 The cap, we got the cap number for this year.

01:04:55 Oh yes.

01:04:56 The Taylor switch bump.

01:04:57 Honestly, it's on the surface.

01:05:01 It's exciting.

01:05:01 I think this is bad news for the Patriots because with the cap goes up for everybody.

01:05:08 That means more teams are going to be competing with you in free agency for these

01:05:12 top guys.

01:05:13 And the flip side is that, you know, you're, there's less teams where you can skim off

01:05:19 the bad contract heap and take on a good player from a team that can't afford them

01:05:26 anymore, just because they're trying to dump salary.

01:05:28 Like that would have been very true.

01:05:30 I would be, that would be nice to be sitting there when a team that's $10

01:05:33 million over the cap needs to dump a wide receiver and you can just take them off

01:05:37 their hands.

01:05:37 And now there's going to be less of those.

01:05:39 It's a great point.

01:05:40 It's a great point.

01:05:41 And that's one of those things where it's like, yes, the P it's nice.

01:05:45 It's really nice that the Patriots have, you know, a hundred million dollars now.

01:05:50 It's pretty cool.

01:05:50 Um, but it doesn't matter.

01:05:53 Like, you know, like you said, it's more of an issue that they can't kind of get

01:05:58 those guys that, you know, for whatever reason have to move off of a team that is

01:06:03 cash strapped, you know?

01:06:04 Yeah.

01:06:04 And it's, I mean, do you want to give now that there's all this extra money out

01:06:08 there, do you want to give 25 or $20 million a year to Calvin Ridley?

01:06:13 Like, right.

01:06:13 Right.

01:06:14 That's, but it doesn't matter though.

01:06:16 And that's the thing is that at this point, you're going to, those guys are

01:06:19 going to get paid more just is what it is.

01:06:20 Like this is the prices and it's not going to impact the middle class as much.

01:06:24 It's going to be the upper class of free agents for the most part, because you're

01:06:27 just going to have bidding wars and it's going to be more people able to bid and

01:06:31 more money out there to be bid.

01:06:32 And you're going to see big contrast up, which is, I mean, that's the other thing

01:06:36 here, if you're in new England, like obviously you want to go out into free

01:06:40 agency and attack, but you also don't want to say we need to be better next year.

01:06:45 We're going to go give $25 million a year to Calvin Ridley and you know, whatever

01:06:51 the equivalent is to some backup tackle to try to fix those spots.

01:06:55 And now.

01:06:56 It just doesn't work.

01:06:57 Yeah.

01:06:58 And now you're in a tougher spot than you wanted to be signing Christian

01:07:00 Barmore next year.

01:07:01 Like that's not, um, you, you want to, you're going to, you can overpay in free

01:07:07 agency, that's fine, but you don't want to overpay for everybody in hamstring

01:07:10 yourself going forward.

01:07:11 Yeah, that's true.

01:07:13 That's true.

01:07:13 So we'll see.

01:07:14 We'll see where it goes from there.

01:07:16 But I think that ultimately, yeah, it does kind of hurt the Patriots a little

01:07:19 bit.

01:07:20 Um, but it's not like the cap's going down next year either.

01:07:24 So the Patriots will be in, in decent shape, um, you know, moving forward, even

01:07:31 if they spend a ton of money this off season.

01:07:32 So, um, so that's what we talked about.

01:07:36 Jefferson a little bit.

01:07:37 I just, I don't see it happening.

01:07:39 It doesn't make any sense to me.

01:07:40 Why would they move up to three?

01:07:41 I understand they don't want to pay.

01:07:43 I understand that.

01:07:43 I also understand they did exactly the same thing a few years ago when they

01:07:48 drafted Jefferson, right?

01:07:50 That they traded that for a first round pick.

01:07:52 And then they just basically took out digs and put in Jefferson.

01:07:56 I get that.

01:07:56 I also understand they drafted Jordan Addison last year and he's really good

01:08:01 too, but I don't know.

01:08:04 I just, maybe they won't, maybe they just look at it and say, we're

01:08:06 not paying a wide receiver no matter what.

01:08:07 Maybe, I don't know, but it seems strange to me that you would move up to take a

01:08:13 quarterback and then trade the best receiver in the NFL to do it.

01:08:17 It just, it, it seems strange to me.

01:08:19 Well, you need multiple good receivers too.

01:08:22 Right.

01:08:22 Like if you trade Justin, yeah, you have Addison, but you still need a receiver.

01:08:26 If you're trading Justin Jefferson and I just, I would just pay him what he wants,

01:08:30 have him stay, even if you're overpaying a little bit, pay him what he wants and

01:08:33 draft a quarterback or whatever you end up doing.

01:08:36 Yeah.

01:08:36 I mean, DJ is right.

01:08:37 And the, and the fact that all the top receivers have been traded in recent

01:08:40 years, he's not wrong about that.

01:08:41 But you know, you look where they've been traded from Tennessee

01:08:46 was not a competitive team.

01:08:47 These weren't, sorry.

01:08:49 And they didn't manage their cap properly.

01:08:51 They didn't have the money to go pay AJ Brown, which got the GM fired.

01:08:56 Right.

01:08:57 Right.

01:08:57 And you know, and so, and the chiefs, in my opinion, wanted to

01:09:01 move in a different direction.

01:09:01 They looked at what Tyreek Hill was going to make and they said, we need

01:09:04 to rebuild our offensive line.

01:09:05 And so they moved in a different direction and luckily.

01:09:09 And Hill was also older, I think.

01:09:13 Yeah, true.

01:09:13 That's true.

01:09:14 And, and he requested a trade.

01:09:17 Like we haven't gotten to that point with Justin Jefferson.

01:09:19 Um, I would, that's also about trading Justin Jefferson.

01:09:23 If he requests one, then yeah, you might do it, but I'm not just doing it.

01:09:26 Proactively.

01:09:27 Right.

01:09:28 Um, and yeah, like are the other, obviously not as big of a trade, but

01:09:32 Hollywood Brown, that was a trade request as well.

01:09:35 A lot of that is less.

01:09:37 So sometimes it's about the contract, but a lot of times it's also about the

01:09:41 specific dynamic with the team itself.

01:09:43 True.

01:09:44 Yeah.

01:09:45 So we'll see.

01:09:46 We'll see.

01:09:47 I mean, listen, DJ mentioned Devonta Adams.

01:09:50 That was the team specific.

01:09:51 He wanted to go play with Derek Carr.

01:09:52 Like that's what that was about.

01:09:53 And then they benched him.

01:09:56 I traded him, let him go or whatever.

01:09:58 I mean, I'd be so mad if I was Devonta Adams right now.

01:10:00 So, but you know, I mean, that's a guy that could be available,

01:10:04 although I doubt it.

01:10:05 Um, but shoot, if you can move back and pick up Justin Jefferson and get.

01:10:11 You know, 11 Jefferson and their first round pick next year.

01:10:15 Holy crap, dude.

01:10:17 I do that in a millisecond, even if it was like they would ever do it, but I'm doing it.

01:10:21 I don't think so either.

01:10:22 But like, if they did, man, don't hang up the phone.

01:10:26 Like, let me call the league office right now before you change your mind.

01:10:29 Like, we got to get this on paper, you know?

01:10:31 So, uh, so we'll see.

01:10:34 But, uh, the only other thing, uh, David Pasternak hit 700 points tonight.

01:10:41 So congrats to him.

01:10:42 Another Boston sports news.

01:10:44 It's my guy.

01:10:45 That's my guy.

01:10:46 Dave Pasta is so freaking good, man.

01:10:48 Unbelievable.

01:10:49 He's the one guy that didn't trade.

01:10:51 Thank God.

01:10:52 Um, you know, I mean, that's just franchise player.

01:10:56 He is.

01:10:57 But you know, Sagan was a franchise player, you know, like that's the frustrating part

01:11:03 is it's like, he's not the only guy that's been a franchise player that they've treated,

01:11:06 you know, at least they kept him.

01:11:08 Uh, by the way, he's the fourth required the fourth fewest games in franchise history

01:11:14 to record 700 points.

01:11:16 The only guys, only guys to do it faster.

01:11:19 Let's see Bobby Middleton, Bobby or, and Phil Esposito.

01:11:23 Ooh, Espo.

01:11:24 There you go.

01:11:25 Yeah.

01:11:25 Nice.

01:11:25 I like it.

01:11:26 I like it.

01:11:27 So, um, yes.

01:11:30 Thank you for the submission.

01:11:31 Dad was saying, thanks for, for, uh, reading, talking to the body's mock draft.

01:11:34 Of course.

01:11:34 Thank you for the submissions.

01:11:35 We appreciate it again.

01:11:36 Just a reminder.

01:11:37 Pat's nation network@gmail.com all one word Pat's nation network@gmail.com.

01:11:47 Um, you can submit your mock drafts there every Monday.

01:11:51 We're going to be doing mock jobs next week.

01:11:52 We don't have a mock draft coming out.

01:11:54 We'll have one the week, the following week.

01:11:56 Um, so we'll read off some of yours next week.

01:12:00 Exactly.

01:12:01 And maybe do a live one.

01:12:02 It will do.

01:12:02 I think, I think every other week we'll do the live one and then read off yours as well.

01:12:06 So I like it.

01:12:07 Yeah.

01:12:08 All right.

01:12:08 So anyways, that's what we got.

01:12:10 Thank you guys.

01:12:11 And, and we'll be, uh, we'll be here Thursday night.

01:12:13 We're working on getting someone kind of big.

01:12:17 We'll see, I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm hoping that that's going to be the case.

01:12:20 Um, so I'm not sure if it's going to happen or not, but we'll work on it behind the scenes.

01:12:24 And, uh, you know, we'll have that information out for you when it's available.

01:12:28 Um, but I think, I think, you know, you'll be happy to see it.

01:12:33 And it would someone that could, I think, answer a lot of questions that people have.

01:12:37 Uh, currently.

01:12:38 So yeah, DJ DJ goes pretty, pretty confirmed.

01:12:42 Oh my goodness.

01:12:43 If we ever got Tom Brady on the stream, I think I'd pass out and die.

01:12:46 Uh, but anyways, I was in the same room as Tom Brady.

01:12:51 One time I almost asked him a question.

01:12:53 Um, I got robbed of asking him a question, which was very rude.

01:12:56 Um, I mean, technically you've been in the same room as Tom Brady, like every Sunday for two decades.

01:13:02 I mean, that is a good point.

01:13:03 That is a good point.

01:13:03 But I was big room.

01:13:05 That is stadium.

01:13:07 That's a great point.

01:13:07 After, after the 2018 super bowl, I, I got a press pass to go to Gillette, um, in Boston and he got it.

01:13:14 You got to shave and he stood up there and talked and everything else like that.

01:13:18 And people, the media got to ask one question, like a few people got to ask one question they asked.

01:13:23 And so, but the microphone got put to the other side of the room that I was standing at.

01:13:30 So I didn't get a chance to get the microphone, unfortunately.

01:13:32 So I had to submit my question.

01:13:34 Well, after I submitted my question, I was like, man, I really wish I, like, I thought as it was, cause they were like, Hey, you guys made your question like right this second.

01:13:41 And I was like, Oh God.

01:13:43 So I asked like a fine question, but afterwards I was like, Oh man, I really wish I'd been able to ask this question, um, about the 10 lead changing drives and whatnot.

01:13:52 And so it didn't happen, but, uh, it was an unbelievable experience to be like literally steps away from Tom Brady was, it was pretty wild.

01:13:59 So, um, so anyways, that's my Tom Brady story.

01:14:03 Uh, when I was a big J journalist for a week back in 2019, so, so, but anyways, all right.

01:14:11 Thanks guys.

01:14:12 We appreciate it.

01:14:13 And, uh, love you guys being on the stream.

01:14:15 And again, you want to submit those mock drafts.

01:14:16 It's Pat's nation network, all one word, Pat's nation network@gmail.com or you can DM them to me or Matt.

01:14:24 You can text me or Matt.

01:14:25 If you have one of our phone numbers, uh, anyway, it would be fine.

01:14:28 So, uh, we'll read them.

01:14:30 All right.

01:14:31 Thanks guys.

01:14:31 And we'll talk to you on Thursday.

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