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00:00 All right, everyone, welcome back into another live edition of the Patriots Beat podcast

00:07 here on the CLNS Media Network presented by our wonderful friends over at prize picks.

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00:18 college basketball. You can put some entries on over the next few days and weeks, but we

00:25 will talk about some college teams and the football sense, as we usually do here, because

00:29 it is time for mock draft 2.0 live here as free agency is kind of winding down and we

00:36 are back into draft season and pro day season as we have the Patriots kind of main decision

00:42 makers were out in SoCal yesterday to watch Caleb Williams as pro day.

00:47 They're going to now travel and be joined by Gerard Mayo to Baton Rouge, CJ and Daniels

00:51 and head up north to see Drake May. We have guys in Texas. We have Scott Peters, seeing

00:56 Joe Alt. So it is back to draft season and it is time for mock draft 2.0. But Alex, I

01:03 guess before we start really quickly, I know, you know, we did one earlier and everyone

01:08 loves doing these mock drafts right when the season ends because they're so fun. But we

01:12 all say we have to wait till after the first wave of free agency to see how the needs change.

01:17 Right. But I'm thinking as we're sitting here, there hasn't been much that has to change

01:22 really like maybe running back. Right. Because the first mock draft, Marshall and Lloyd,

01:27 the running back from USC, we traded back in, I think the last pick of the third round.

01:31 But now the Patriots have signed Antonio Gibson. So maybe some of those minor secondary needs

01:35 have changed. But the top needs, obviously, quarterback, receiver, offensive tackle. I

01:40 think those are still the key target points here, even after the first full week of free

01:46 agency has gone by now. Yeah, big picture hasn't changed. Look, we

01:48 took two tackles last time, two tackles in the top hundred twenty picks that maybe you

01:53 don't need to do. We took an edge rusher higher. Don't maybe need to do that. But, you know,

01:59 besides that, yeah, it's it's the landscape looks very similar. If anything, things have

02:04 gotten more urgent. There's also been some movement around the league. We probably should

02:07 do at some point, Brian, the trade down with the Vikings. But I think with the the staffers

02:13 going around to all the pro days, right, Elliott Wolfe, Gerard Mayo, Alexander Pelt and just

02:19 the general reporting that the Patriots are expected to take quarterback at three.

02:24 I think we put that one in the back pocket for now and we try that one another time.

02:28 Yeah, I agree with you there. So should that lead us right into it? Our first pick here

02:33 leads us right into it. And look, usually the PFF simulator, if you want to take Drake

02:37 May 30, you got to reset it about five or six times and you can still sometimes get

02:42 Jane Daniels at thirty four, which stops sending me that mock draft.

02:45 I get it. You beat the simulator. I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice. I'm telling you

02:49 if Jane Daniels is still there at thirty four, something's gone horribly wrong. I probably

02:52 don't want him anymore. But no, this time fired up the first time and Jane Daniels is

02:58 going second. So maybe they've updated their algorithm. They haven't updated it enough.

03:02 Bob means it's still not the simulator. I figured that out before we came on. Brian

03:06 saw my reaction. I did not take it well, but I do think this was the top of the board is

03:10 going to look like ultimately for all the talk about J.J. McCarthy and whatever.

03:14 I think this is what it's going to look like. And Brian, neither one of us, even after free

03:18 agency, even after the Patriots missed on Calvin Ridley, doesn't seem to be much indication

03:24 they're going to trade for a guy like a T. Higgins or Brandon. Neither one of us is super

03:29 geared up about Marvin Harrison. I still I think we still both believe quarterback at

03:33 three. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. It's just who is Washington going to take at this

03:39 point? I feel like everyone was back and forth during last week because they signed Marcus

03:44 Mariota as to kind of their their vet. And then they traded Sam Howell away, which I

03:49 don't know what you read on the Sam Howell thing was everyone, I think, thought that

03:52 indicated that they might go Jade and Daniels because Sam Howell and Drake may are very

03:56 close. But I was listening to Drake may talk with he was on Schefter's pod before the combine

04:04 and he kind of made it sound like it would be kind of awkward and not an ideal situation

04:08 to be sharing a quarterback room in Washington with his best friend. So I thought maybe that

04:13 might flip this flip the scale. But I don't know. It seems like a lot of people like to

04:17 say Dan Quinn would prefer prefer a mobile quarterback more in Jane Daniels is mold as

04:23 a defensive coach. So I think that's kind of where the consensus does kind of lie right

04:27 now with Daniels going to. Yeah. So that that that takes us to Drake May, who I'm going

04:31 to take and then I'm going to let it Sim. Oh, how do I pause it now? There we go. OK.

04:37 Say update these buttons are new. The bigger buttons measure slows down here. So OK, Roma

04:45 do is they went Malik neighbors went they both went top ten Harrison went forth. All

04:49 right. This won't happen, by the way. To all to the charges, I think they'll trade out

04:52 of that pick because they don't need a left tackle and he's purely a left tackle anyway.

05:00 So in our last mock, we traded down from 30. Which is still a move I definitely believe

05:05 in. But I also think. Moving up should be on the table from 34 and Brian, I think you

05:12 agree with me. Yeah. What I want to try here, especially if one of those I mean, what'd

05:16 you say the top three receivers went so far? Three receivers went. So now we're waiting

05:20 on the Brian Brian Thomas. Right. So and a trade that's been talked about a lot is essentially

05:27 the Kyle Duggar trade, but in reverse, where the Patriots moved back from 21, I think,

05:34 for a second and a third. And I get that some people are uneasy giving up both the second

05:39 and third round picks, essentially giving up a top 100 selection in order to, you know,

05:44 in this draft, we need so much talent.

05:47 There's another trade. In twenty twenty two between the Jaguars and the Bucs, that's twenty

05:53 six for thirty three. I think it's like one oh three one oh two one oh three and one eighty

05:59 and the Patriots have the picks to make that work now. Still, you know, you're not giving

06:04 up a top one hundred. You are giving up one oh two. OK, we're splitting hairs, but would

06:08 you rather give up to get to about the same range in the draft? Would you rather give

06:14 up sixty eight or one oh two and one eighty, especially when now you have the extra six

06:20 round pick you got from trading Mac Jones? Yeah, one. So let's see where they fall. I

06:27 want to see where these guys fall and then we'll keep it going. So here's the thing.

06:30 Like if Brian Thomas goes at 18, you have to move up a little bit higher, right? Then

06:35 maybe we have to make the other trade if he doesn't, because I think Brian Thomas is going

06:40 to go before 80.

06:41 Mitchell is a better version of the same player. Or we could trade the second and the third

06:45 and just get Brian Thomas because we're almost in. Let me get in range for that. There goes

06:50 Byron Murphy. See Miami takes because Miami's not going to take a wide receiver. Xavier

06:55 worthy. Do you see how Mike McDaniel was drooling over Xavier worthy? Yes. Well, apparently

07:01 they were there for to tapey on Sanders, which is scary. Yeah, him in Miami. But and that

07:07 I could say I could. That's probably the only place I see Sanders going in the first round

07:11 or maybe they move back. But this is where I think you're in range. I think at 25 is

07:19 where you can start doing the trade with the fourth round pick instead of third round pick.

07:23 So I guess should we just keep going or do you want to go up and get Brian Thomas? Let's

07:28 make a statement. They're both there. Let's keep going. All right. And there goes Brian

07:32 Thomas. All right. We know the Vikings aren't taking a receiver. And that brings us to the

07:39 Cowboys, who are very liable to take anybody. So if I pull up the trade calculator and Evan

07:48 actually sent me a new trade calculator that does the chart for you. Oh, that's convenient.

07:54 It. No, it's great. And it does like all the charts. It's excellent. So the Patriots would

07:59 be trading up. They would get 24 in 2024 because, again, here I go typing and talking at the

08:06 same time. And the Dallas Cowboys would be trading down. They would be getting 34. They

08:13 would be getting. And the other thing you can do is you can kind of skew this a little

08:16 bit. So let's say we don't want to give up as much draft. You can give up the. Let me

08:21 ask this. Would you rather give up the current fourth or a future third? Probably the current

08:27 fourth. OK, so we'll call it thirty four one oh three and one eighty. And that gets us

08:39 to. I don't know why it's saying that I traded with the Titans here, hang on one second.

08:47 Math on air, math on air, baby. Felgarn, Mass Cardinal said. That is the Patriots overpaying

08:58 or sorry. Yes, under over or under. It's actually different on different charts. OK, there we

09:05 go. So this may be a spot. Hang on. So this may be a spot where we got to move back. Can't

09:12 do it here unless we want to give up the third. I was on I don't know what chart you're looking

09:15 on. I was on Rich Rich's chart and it's like an underpay by about 20 points. So like a

09:20 late or mid fourth rounder. OK, so it becomes I have that here. If we want to make this

09:28 trade, we need 80 Mitchell to get to twenty seven. Do we want to risk it or do we want

09:36 to give up something more? Green Bay in Tampa. Let's risk it. All right, let's see.

09:45 Oh, John, and I'll tell you this. I don't know that the simulator is going to do it

09:52 if this played out in real life. He's going twenty eight to the bills. He's absolutely

09:57 going twenty eight to the bills. So it's now or never. You make the trade and this is on

10:04 the trade chart. This is it's almost exact. I mean, it's by like a fraction that it's

10:10 off. So. This is the trade. We are one oh three and ninety three for twenty six. Thirty

10:19 four one oh three and one eighty four. Twenty seven one eighty. Yeah. Twenty seven. Got

10:24 it. All right. Now we are giving up three picks here. This is going to leave us with

10:28 one two three four five only six selections in the draft. So let's keep that in the back

10:33 of our minds because we probably want to trade down at some point. Yeah. And, you know. Pick

10:39 assets back up unless we want to do this. Now, we'll just trade one. I mean, those picks

10:44 are back to back. That doesn't matter. But let's just keep in mind, we're going to want

10:49 to trade back in at some point. But there we go. We go to receiver and I think 80 Mitchell,

10:54 this is where the tear drops off to Ladd, McConkie, to Roman Wills, and I'd even put

10:58 Troy Franklin a tear down from that. I still can't buy in on the Troy Franklin hype. Yeah,

11:04 personally. But look, could the Patriots waited thirty four and get Ladd, McConkie or get

11:09 Roman Wilson and be happy with that pick? Yes. But you identify a guy, if you believe

11:14 this guy's going to be a fact, you haven't had a wide receiver here for so long. I think

11:18 you have to pull the trigger on something like this. Excuse me. Yeah. Yeah. I think

11:22 he's a top 80. Mitchell is a top five. I think he's probably five number receiver in this

11:27 class. Really good talent. Freakish kind of athlete. And and like it's I'm not as like

11:35 I don't want to pigeonhole them into just you have to draft an X receiver because I

11:38 think there's a lot of good slot. They're kind of Z type of guys in this class and they're

11:43 they should just be in the category of getting getting good players at any position. But

11:47 the fact that he is an X receiver and he would fit with the guys, the complimentary pieces

11:52 you have now, I think that's just the cherry on top. So moving up, moving up for him, I

11:56 think is a no brainer if they're able to do that and pair him with a guy like Drake may.

12:00 I think that's a home run kind of first round for them. Well, and just for the sake of putting

12:05 this in perspective, I'm going to give you some names, Brian, and you not as an NFL player.

12:11 Like we've seen these guys play in the league, but as prospects think back to last year,

12:14 evaluating these guys. You stop me when one of these prospects is or you tell me where

12:22 Xavier worthy would go on this list. Jackson Mitchell. I mean, you can do worthy too, if

12:28 you want, but Mitchell Jackson Smith and Jigba Quentin Johnston, Zay Flowers, Jordan Addison,

12:34 how many of those guys as prospects are you taking over 80 Mitchell?

12:40 Maybe none of them, honestly. Like he might've been, I'm with you. I'm with you. Cause he

12:46 might've been wide receiver one last year. Right. And I've been saying like, I think

12:50 Zay's a great player, but I was worried about his size and you know, his durability long

12:55 term and all of that. I've never bought into Johnson. I never totally bought an Addison.

13:01 Like I think going to Minnesota opposite Justin Jefferson was a great setup for him. Cause

13:06 I saw him as like a high level number two and that's exactly what he's become in JSN,

13:11 who I think is a tremendous player is also slot receiver and X receivers are always going

13:14 to be more valuable than slot receivers.

13:16 Point being, this is a guy that's a top 20 pick last year, but it's just because this

13:20 draft is so insane at receiver, you can get them here and you prevent the bills from getting,

13:26 which is a nice little, uh, enjoy, uh, enjoy Keon Coleman, Buffalo. So, um, I'm going to

13:33 speed this thing back up and I'm going to take 80 Mitchell. So we're not going to trade

13:37 up again from 68, like, cause at that point the draft is done. So let's take 80 Mitchell

13:44 and then we'll let it run. Who'd the bills end up taking? Stop. All right. Whatever.

13:48 It's going to be weird. We'll find out in a second. Uh, the bills ended up taking too

13:57 late to lots of, okay. So where does, so Xavier worthy went 33rd. So we would have realistically,

14:03 I mean you can bump them all up. We probably got the run. Yeah. We started the run at wide

14:09 receiver. He, I'm calling the chargers is very funny. Good luck with that. Xavier Liggett

14:16 and, and, uh, um, Trey lawn Berks, these guys just drafted receivers. They already took

14:22 in the first round. Michael Pennix, the Raiders is cool. Bodex to the saints is hilarious.

14:29 That makes sense. That makes an insane amount of sense. Um, Roman Wilson, the Cowboys is

14:35 kind of cool. Uh, Jatavian Sanders to the Texans is sick. That'd be fun. That'd be a

14:41 lot of fun. Um, anyway, Tez Walker, the Cardinals. All right, so here we are. Pick 68 as many

14:49 people in the chat pointed out, we have not picked exactly yet. Patriots need a left tackle.

14:54 So I meant to say this before. I think when you look at, cause again, we're trying to

15:00 project what they might do it and we put a little bit of our own opinion into it, but

15:05 you know, you're getting this reporting now that Chuck's a core for, they think he can

15:10 be a bridge left tackle. If they think that they may be more inclined to go up and get

15:16 the receiver and then, you know, find a more, uh, a project tackle a guy who's maybe your

15:24 way later on in the draft. So that brings us to these guys, Blake Fisher, Patrick Paul.

15:31 I still think punies a guard. Yeah, me too. And then you get into a whole other tier with,

15:37 you know, Christian Jones and Jawan Foster and all that. So, but this could, this could

15:41 also be, you know, there's a few names like you like Fisher. I know you like Fisher, right?

15:46 I know you love Fisher cause he's, it's going to be a lot of work to get him over to left

15:50 tackle. Okay. I'd be more interested in Fisher if they didn't resign on when, or we didn't

15:59 get all that reporting that on when it was, or they had like, yeah, or they had a left

16:02 tackle and a window was playing guard. Right, exactly. Yeah. So I, I don't mind him as a

16:08 player. I, I, there's a risky if you're drafting him, like here's the thing. If you draft Patrick

16:15 Paul, for instance, he may never become a starting caliber left tackle, but at the very

16:20 least he's going to be left tackle.

16:21 Like you might be a backup left tackle. He might be a replacement level of tackle. There's

16:25 a chance Blake Fisher never becomes a left tackle and you just paid a right tackle for

16:29 three years. So where is Blake Fisher playing? Are you moving him inside? Like, what are

16:33 you doing with him for a guy in the top 100? I think you need to have a plan and I, for

16:41 the guy to get on the field, whether or not that plan works out, comes down to development

16:44 and things like that, but you need to have a plan to get the guy on the field.

16:47 I just wonder what the plan is to get Blake Fisher on the field. Yep. That makes sense.

16:52 This now this could also be, you know, you just trade it up. So you only have four picks

16:57 left. This is your most valuable asset. Obviously left. This could be a spot where maybe you

17:01 trade down and kind of add to add to your remaining artillery there in the later rounds.

17:07 That's also an option. Or if you think like you need Patrick Paul right here, you don't

17:12 want to miss out on him or one of these other tackles. That's kind of the choice they might

17:15 have to weigh at this pick now after, after moving up there.

17:20 So I'm looking at some other trades here. Uh, last year the Rams in Texas made a trade

17:27 69 and one 91 for 73 and one 61. That doesn't really help us cause we want to add picks.

17:35 Uh, the Rams and giants made a trade that was a third for a third and a fourth. That

17:42 interests me. Yep. And it's not that far. That was how far was that drop? That drop

17:48 was from, hang on here. That drop was from 73 to 89. Uh, the Patriots made a trade in

18:00 that range last year, but that was the Devante Parker trade. What else do we got? Uh, 2022.

18:06 That's a trade up. That's a trade. That's a trade for a player. Um, so Denver traded

18:12 75 for 80 and one 62. So we can either move back five spots and get like a fifth or a

18:19 six or we can move back a little further and get another top one 50 pick.

18:26 What do you think with the tackles? So do you want to like stay in range for a Patrick

18:33 Paul or yeah. So the tackle teams here, I'm assuming that the jets would have already

18:40 taken a tackle at this point. Oh, and they signed Tyrone Smith. So that's, it's tougher

18:45 here cause like we don't know who's taken who and we don't go back up and look at everybody.

18:50 Is there a team that just has like an excess of picks? I guess. Let's see. That might be

18:53 looking to trade up. Um, so like not the bears, right? Cause where we could take the, is that

18:59 really all they have cheese? They don't got, that's hilarious. That's really funny. They're

19:05 going to trade down from nine. Um, so like, here's a good example where the Broncos have

19:10 a bunch of picks kind of in a row and they also didn't have a second round pick. So something

19:16 like this, and I think you could even throw in that 76, one 36 and two Oh seven. Hang

19:27 on. 76, one 36, two Oh seven. And we are trading 68. So that is hang on. Um, that's an overpay

19:44 by the Broncos of about a fifth round pick the late fifth round pick, which is probably

19:52 about right. Yeah. For them moving up eight spots there. I, and look, I don't hate Fisher

19:56 to the point where we couldn't take him if we miss on Patrick Paul. Yeah. I moved down

20:02 eight and yeah, I think we do this recoup some draft stock. We are going to back to

20:07 back picks at one 36 and one 37, but all right, so now we wait and see, let's see. Hey, look

20:14 at that play in the board. We did some fun. If this happens in real life, I'm going to

20:20 lose my mind because look who went in between Blake Corum, huge fan of Blake Corum. And

20:25 I don't think the Patriots should take them, but huge fan of Blake Corum, max Melton, huge

20:29 fan of max Melton, Tavon Drey sweat, massive fan of Tavon Drey sweat, Johnny Wilson, interesting

20:34 player. So just kind of an interesting run there leading up to this pick. Yeah. All right.

20:40 So 68 for 76, one 36, one 37, two, seven. Yup. And now we are on clock at number 76,

20:51 76. So tell us a little bit about Patrick Paul here as we get ready to make this pick.

20:56 So hold on. Just typing that in. So a monster of a man, what like six, seven, three, seven,

21:02 three 31, 37 inch arms. And he can move pretty well for, for that size is 10 yard. A split

21:09 was in, I think like the top percentile at the combine. So it can move well, big guy,

21:16 big arms, just kind of the ideal body type for what you want out there at the left tackle.

21:21 Just really good play strength. I guess we'll see work in progress maybe in the run game

21:26 a little bit, but he's just the ideal type of body type you want out there on the, on

21:32 the blind side for your quarterback. All right. So we're going to take care. I don't think

21:35 we're gonna trade up again. So we've made two picks. This will be our third, fourth,

21:38 fifth. So this leaves us with eight picks, which is about right. So I'm a draft Patrick

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22:46 All right. So a quick reset of the board here. After day two, we got our quarterback number

22:56 three, Drake May, as the commanders took Jane Daniels number two. So Patriots run up the

23:02 card for Drake May, and then they trade back up into the first round to get him his top

23:07 wide receiver in a D Mitchell from Texas. And then obviously don't have a second round

23:12 pick. You use that to go back up and then you recoup some of those assets and you move

23:17 down a few spots in the third round and get your tackle in Patrick Paul.

23:21 So you hit the big three quarterback wide receiver offensive tackle in rounds one, two

23:26 and three. And you still have what we say, five, six picks left here on headed into day

23:31 three. And this is where things get interesting, right? Because now we can kind of, you know,

23:36 where do we go? There's a ton of different options. We could double up at receiver, but

23:41 I think signing KJ Osborne, bringing the guys back, they brought back.

23:46 I don't know about that here. How about that? Yeah. And we're back to back. So we're going

23:50 to make, unless we want to trade down again, which I wouldn't roll out entirely, but you

23:55 know, do we go receiver here? Do we double up there? Is this where we want to get our

23:58 project tight end? I mean, all the, you know, day three guys we think are going to be there

24:02 on the board. This is weird. The first, Oh no, this top of the fifth round. I was gonna

24:05 say we had the first two picks of day three. We could go running back, but like you said,

24:10 having signed Antonio Gibson, is that something you can wait on? I do think doubling up on

24:17 tackle here is an interesting idea.

24:19 Yep. Maybe with one of these two picks, cause we didn't get a Paul. I like Paul a lot, but

24:24 he's a project player. A corner here is certainly something that could be interesting. You still

24:30 got some players. Josh Newton here is still on the board. Who's the guy that kind of fits

24:36 their, their typical mold of corner safety. Oops. Safety could be, I mean, it's really

24:42 all in play. Safety could be in play. We've still got, I don't know. We don't have cam

24:48 kitchens on the board. He's gone. You know, is this where we go get our edge rusher? Do

24:54 we double up on Houston guys? Nelson Caesar. Uh, yeah. What do you, what are you thinking,

25:00 Brian? I feel like it's really all, all a possibility here.

25:03 This is where it opens up. I definitely like the ideal idea of a second tackle at some

25:10 point. Um, and then after that, yeah, I don't just, whatever. We're both the most excited

25:18 about that. So yeah. Okay. So any of these guys jump out to Siobhan Foster's the one

25:27 do we take him last time? I think we did. Yeah, we did. Okay. So for our purposes, we'll

25:32 say he's off the board. Um, I mean, with Darius Henderson from Michigan, just that again,

25:38 that Michigan offensive line was so good. Um, kind of a tweener. So might be a guard,

25:45 but the guy that's going to play it's early for Ethan Driscoll. I like Ethan Driscoll

25:50 cause you can't teach size a six, nine. What is it? Uh, or sorry, six, seven, three 30.

25:55 Just get two monsters. Just right. Do the, do the bangles technique and get the two Browns.

26:01 This is where if he was in the simulator, uh, Tylan Grable from UC, uh, UCF would be

26:07 a good pick. Uh, any of these guys stand out to you as they had Adams Walter Rouse, that

26:12 this is another like really strong tackle program. Yeah. Walter Rouse was pretty intriguing

26:19 watching him at the shrine bowl. Um, I haven't watched too much of Henderson, but I mean,

26:25 it's like the Michigan offensive line. As you, as you kind of said, those guys just

26:29 breed good, good players. So, uh, again, I, I like Siobhan Foster a lot, but we're not

26:35 going to double dip on him if we took him, took him in our last draft. And I don't know

26:39 if he'd even last the fifth round. So, uh, I lean probably between Rouse or Henderson,

26:45 Henderson, if you have a strong opinion on one of those guys.

26:48 So I mean, we, I, I'm, uh, I'm not, uh, above pulling up a scout and report as kind of a

26:54 tiebreaker here. We could, we could throw it to the chat, but just while we're here,

26:58 uh, cause we're here to watch the mock drafts. Ultimately, as I like to remind people, we're

27:02 just trying to learn about as many players as possible. So the Darius Henderson, six,

27:07 four, three Oh nine 35 inch arms, uh, zero line, right? Offensive tackle with decent

27:12 athletic traits and above average physical traits, but his game tape simply doesn't show

27:16 enough consistency Henderson size and length will check boxes, but his play against the

27:20 likes of Iowa, Alabama and opponents at the senior bowl left a lot to be desired.

27:24 He needs to improve his anchor strength and protection, but he appears to have enough

27:27 lower body drive to generate movement in a run game. Ultimately an inordinate amount

27:31 of mental mistakes and lack of instincts will be hard for any offensive line coaches to

27:35 overlook. Don't like that. Don't like that. Walter Rouse, six, six, three, 13th, 35 plus

27:44 inch arms. Okay. NFL comp, uh, was there a comp for a, there's no comp for Henderson

27:50 and NFL comp for, uh, for Rouse is cam Fleming or Patriot. There you go. Is the size and

27:58 intelligence coaches like, and he might be able to continue improving if he can get stronger

28:02 and prove he can play on the right side as well. So left tackle, he's an average athlete,

28:06 which would average bend and that will show up in his lack of consistent anchor and inline

28:10 drive. However, that should not be oversold as he tends to anchor enough and maintain

28:14 a level of stickiness as a run blocker. Even when it looks a little disheveled, Rouse has

28:19 played almost exclusively at left tackle, but might be in consideration for a solid

28:23 swing tackle with some upside. That's kind of who you're looking for here. Just a guy

28:28 that, Hey, this is going to play. He did play right a lot, uh, in, in the shrine bowl. So

28:33 that was what kind of stuck out to me with him if he has that versatility. So that one

28:39 works for me. That the scouting report sounded more, uh, sounded more intriguing than Henderson

28:46 for sure there. Uh, do you want to throw, let's, let's, let's do one more since we're

28:49 doing this Isaiah Adams. Cause I gotta be, this year is so weird. I'm not as deep in

28:54 the draft as I want to be. Cause we've had to spend so much time on the quarterback quarterbacks.

28:58 I don't. Yeah. Um, Isaiah, hang on Isaiah Adams. Where is he? Uh, Isaiah Adams got them

29:11 six, four, three 1534 inch arms, Canadian import. Could we start building a Canadian

29:19 wall here with him and friends sitting, uh, with the junior college background who settled

29:23 as a two year starter in 2023 and team captain at Illinois Patriots won't like that. Adam's

29:30 2022 guard tape is important as he's likely to end up back at guard after a season at

29:34 right tackle in 2023. He's thick, but athletic with the ability pulling blocker, blah, blah,

29:39 blah. She's a guard. So, all right. Um, I was intrigued enough by, we can put it up.

29:46 Do you want to put it up? Give final say to the, to the chat, the chat between Rouse and

29:52 between the, uh, Rouse Henderson and Adams, the three guys you see there, we're not taking

29:57 Foster. We already took them. So whichever guy gets five first Adams, Rouse Henderson

30:03 chat has final say chats, Elliot Wolf, people talking about the CFL.

30:09 We'll count that as a vote for Adams. All right. So one for Adams, one for Rouse, anybody

30:15 else want to weigh in for, or we're not doing false. We took them last time for all and

30:20 he, he would be the pick here for the record. It's another for us. It's three for Rouse.

30:25 That's four for Rouse five for Rouse Rouse. Nathan Rourke getting some votes. All right.

30:30 Next year when his brother's in the draft, we'll go back to the chat. Although hopefully,

30:33 hopefully the Patriots don't need to take quarterback next year. All right. Walter Rouse

30:36 it is. And we are back on the board, Brian. So this is where you have back to back picks.

30:42 Sometimes it's called a bonus pick. This is where I kind of like to dig in on defense

30:47 and there's a couple of guys that I'm curious here. All right. So cam hearts off the board.

30:52 I keep thinking this is the top of the fourth round. It's top of the fifth, of course. So

30:55 Josh Newton's an interesting player, kind of like a well-rounded a corner. You can see

31:01 the distribution of a snapshot, like boundary corner plays a little safety. He was really

31:05 good in TCUs run last year. Kind of took a little bit of a step back this year, but he

31:09 like a lengthy corner. Yeah. He's not like, I mean, you know, he's not built like Gonzalez,

31:15 but like he's not small. I wouldn't say his length of strength or weakness is functional.

31:23 The kid from Duke whose name I'm blanking on. Dwayne Carter's not here, which is about

31:29 right on the edge. And Nelson Caesar would be an interesting pick here. So would save

31:36 your Thomas is no, I think we missed Alex hunt or what is it? Oh, Alex, Alex hunt. Yeah.

31:46 The Houston Baptist guy. Yeah. Too early for Jalen Ford. Yeah. I don't know about any of

31:53 these linebackers, so I don't know if you saw any, just one. Could you check tight end?

31:59 Just one offensive position. Yeah. Okay. So most of those guys are still there. Theo

32:04 Johnson. Yeah. I mean, we don't have a, it's 60 picks before we pick it yet. Yeah. But

32:10 yeah, I doubt the boundary corner is a bad idea. If you like Newton. Yeah. Here, I'll

32:16 give you a pull up his NFL.com page. I'll tell you, I'll grab his, I don't like the

32:24 Penn state corners. They're always way too physical for my liking. So Newton five, 11,

32:30 90 31 inch arms. Well-built cornerback with inside outside versatility. Newton's 22 tape

32:38 is slightly better than 23. He's capable and press and is made for old fashioned cover

32:42 to I just got his Patriot where he can redirect release sink in his own Newton place, tall

32:46 in space. He's a Patriot.

32:49 Yeah. That's that's, that's, I mean, we just, that could be the scouting report for any

32:54 cornerback on the page. That's that's Jonathan Jones. That's Miles Bryant. That was Jack

32:59 Jones. Any of them, any of them. So Josh Newton fits the, uh, fits the bill, grab Josh Newton

33:04 there. And then it's a, it's a long way to go. So let's, since we just made back-to-back

33:10 picks, let's update the board real quick here. Um, so we went Drake may at the top traded

33:16 up, got a D Mitchell moved down from 63 to read picks, took Patrick Paul doubled up on

33:25 tackles with Walter Walter Rouse. Then we added Josh Newton and I think that's it for

33:28 the top one 50, right?

33:29 We're down at like one 90 something now. Yeah. We're down at the Mack Jones pick. Oh, I love

33:34 this tip. They need a blocky tight end. He tested well at the combine. I mean, right.

33:45 I think that just fell literally right into our laps. And this is like, we reached a little

33:51 bit on, on new, not a ton, but it was, it definitely made me a little bit uncomfortable

33:57 tip rhyme. And this is right in the sweet spot for tip. This is like exactly where he's

34:01 going to go.

34:02 I was pulling up as a, as RAS score, just 9.93. Uh, this one, I don't know what his

34:12 latest 9.93. Okay. Yep. 9.93. He had a elite speed grade at the four, six, four 40 yard

34:22 dash at six, four, two 71. Uh, he had a 10 yard split in the 9.8 percentile, one five,

34:31 five, a great agility grades with the shuttle and his three cone time. So this is a big

34:37 guy who can block and he moves very well at the tight end spot.

34:42 So I'm just curious. Who else is here? If we wanted to double up at receiver, I know

34:45 some people like Anthony Gould, good separator. I like Jordan Whittington, good chain mover,

34:49 but we probably get those guys later, right? This, if he was in the simulator, uh, we already

34:56 took a corner. I don't think we're going to double up. MJ. Devonshire is actually really

34:59 interesting player because he's not very good in less the games on the line. And then he's

35:04 prime tie law. Like it's weird. He will get beat like a corner. He will get beat, go back

35:11 and watch the 2022 backyard brawl pit West Virginia, Bryce Ford Wheaton takes his lunch

35:16 that entire game.

35:17 And then at the end of the game, right place, right time pick six to win the game. And like

35:21 he does stuff like that. So I wouldn't take him. He's a fun player to watch. Um, safeties.

35:29 Yeah. I don't, you know, love any of these safeties right here. At least maybe we go

35:33 back to that with one of the later picks on the edge. I, there is an edge guy I like here.

35:39 Uh, we'll revisit that a little bit. Um, I don't know about a linebacker. I mean, this

35:45 linebacker class falls off hard. I, I wouldn't be totally okay if they pass a linebacker

35:49 this year. Um, Brian, I don't know if you like any of these defensive tackles, Keith

35:55 Randolph, Tim Smith, Gabe Hall. Um, I think it's, I do think it's Tim Ryman. I think he's

36:02 the pick here. Absolutely. I'm with you. All right. Uh, so what else do we want to address

36:08 as we have two picks left? I believe these are both seventh round picks. Now this is

36:11 six somehow we ended up, do we trade with the Niners? It's must be one of the ones we

36:16 got from the Rams. We got from the Rams. Uh, we have two Oh seven and two 31. Yeah. Okay.

36:23 I have an idea for two 31. Uh, it just an edge guy. No, there's, it's really nothing

36:29 that fancy. Just a player. I liked it is probably going to be UDFA. So in terms of running back,

36:34 record junior is still here. Chase McClellan, Isaiah Davis. I like Rasheen Ali. I don't

36:40 like drafting him. I'll sign him as a UDFA. Yeah. Uh, all right. We took our tight end.

36:47 We could triple up a tackle if we wanted. We could go interior. Bordelini is still here,

36:55 but I don't think that's right. Oh, another tackle. Speaking of guys who are in the simulator,

37:00 Travis Glover, remember him from the senior bowl? He showed up late. Also like day three,

37:08 late day three tackles later either. Frank crumb would be another good pick here. Another

37:12 tackle that's not in the simulator. Um, I don't know if you like any of these safeties,

37:19 Tyler Owens, uh, getting a lot of people requests and kickers. I was literally about to pull

37:26 it up. So I don't think Reichard or Cardi are going to be here at this point. I think

37:32 at this, they always project the kickers to go outside of the top 200 and somebody takes

37:36 a kicker in the fourth round and then another team panics and takes another kicker in like

37:40 the fourth or fifth. So I think Cardi and right, right. If you want to say Mivas, Mivas

37:49 might be on the board here. Cause team's going to worry about him because he's five 11, two

37:55 40. He also doesn't warm up. He goes out and kicks. He might change the NFL, but in college

38:01 he would just go out and kick and he hit a lot of kicks. Like he's very good, but he

38:05 would do that. Uh, Tori Taylor, if Tori Taylor is still here, I'm going to be so pissed if

38:10 Tori Taylor does not get trapped at the top 200.

38:12 It's I'm going to be like, it's actually weird because everyone filled their holes through

38:19 a free agency. I mean, you know how it's going to end. It's going to end with the chiefs

38:24 signing them because they let Townsend go to sign the, the punk God. And now they're

38:28 going to get Tori Taylor and he's going to win. Absolutely. Absolutely. What's going

38:32 to happen. That's how it's going. That's how it's going to go. But I don't know. I get

38:36 the, the people want a second kicker in here, but I just still have a hard time seeing them

38:42 draft drafting one, maybe a UDFA rookie, but I still just see a heart.

38:47 I think it's my preference would be, you know, a veteran to bring in here and have him compete.

38:54 And then maybe a UDFA, but I see them. I still see a hard time having them draft a rookie

38:59 kicker again. I don't think they're in draft. Another kicker. Yep. So do we want to double

39:05 up at receiver? Do we, where, where do we want to go with this pick? Do we want to take

39:08 a safety? I mean, I liked Tyler Rowland. He's a good player. Very instinct, very instinctual

39:14 safety. I, they did sign Jaylin Hawkins today. So you'd probably have like those two competing

39:19 for a roster spot. Doesn't believe in space. Right. So we got the guy who doesn't believe

39:27 in birds and the guy who doesn't believe in outer space on the same team. Perfect. Yeah.

39:36 He played a lot of deep safety, a lot of slot corner. Like he's a coverage guy. Yeah. Yeah.

39:42 We could add that. Was there anybody else, any other position? I mean, we could go running

39:46 back to, I would like to see him draft a running back. I just don't necessarily love any of

39:50 these guys. Yeah. Frank Gore jr. I mean, he's kind of just Kevin Harris again. Kevin Harris

39:56 has contracts almost up. Some people really like Jane Sheridan. I'm not super familiar

40:00 with them. You want to just check, um, quarterbacks if like there's any, I know we took a Jason

40:08 bean last time and our double dip. Yeah. Jason beans, 80 P's one 20. Wow. Wow. People like

40:15 Jason bean. Um, I get a Carter Bradley here. I think it's going to be like a good solid

40:20 backup. Well, at that point I would take Carter Bradley next. So the other guy I like here

40:25 late, light and draft that's in the simulator. There's plenty of guys. I want to take Brian

40:30 that we just went through that aren't in the simulator. Uh, Trejon Jeff coat, first off

40:35 a plus name. Uh, he's kind of just like a, a, a sturdy, I want to get a size six, four,

40:42 five experience player, sturdy edge setter, team captain from Arkansas. Does this sound

40:50 familiar to you, Brian? It's like a big, strong edge setting guy from Arkansas. Oh, try flowers.

41:00 One more guess. There's another one. Dietrich wise. Oh, Dietrich. Yeah. I think he kind

41:06 of plays like, I think he kind of plays a little bit like Dietrich wise. So I don't

41:11 know that he's going to be, he can move, he can move like inside. He's a little, yeah,

41:14 he's going to be, I mean, he's a little small to play inside, but if you want to kind of

41:18 change things up, have him rush on the inside a little bit, like on, on passing downs, he

41:23 can do that. It's just a big mauler. Like that's what he is. He's just a big mauler.

41:27 So you know, down here outside of the top 200 Ross size strength. Why the hell not?

41:33 Right. Yeah. So do you want to take him here and then double up at quarterback? Yeah, we

41:38 can do that. All right. Tra John or trade John actually don't know exactly how it's

41:44 pronounced. Uh, Jeff coat. Oh, Jeff. I'm trying to find where he is on the big board. Cause

41:53 that is a little bit of a reach. But I also think that the way the UDFA market works now,

42:00 UDFAs are getting so expensive. Teams will draft guys like teams will almost be like,

42:10 yeah, we have a seventh round grade on this guy, but this guy's ceilings higher. So we'll

42:13 take him cause we get them for an extra year. We don't have to pay him as much. Uh, so we'll

42:17 go Jeff coat here. When I said PFF is going to give that an F, but the PFF grades are

42:20 terrible.

42:21 They're stupid. Um, and then, all right, so what do we want to do here? So 31. Yep. Okay.

42:30 So we could double dip at quarterback. I mean, double dip anywhere at this point. Um, like,

42:41 are you still looking at the interior of the offensive line as a spot they might have to

42:45 add to, um, interior offense line, or I would take a defensive tackle here. Like it's, I'm

42:53 trying to remember which of these guys are like the big guys. Yeah. No, he's three Oh

42:55 five. Is it Jane Crumby? One of these guys is like a real nose tackle. I can't remember

43:02 who, but, uh, interior of the offensive line. Yeah. I think they drafted three guys last

43:08 year and then they signed Leverett. They should be okay. You know, could they add a UDFA or

43:13 two to get through camp? But in terms of draft capital, I'd like to think they're good. Yep.

43:20 Um, you know, these linebackers, I low Fosho is a good player, but I think this is, I think

43:27 we're beyond, uh, respecting the board for him. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're well beyond,

43:39 we're well beyond respecting the board for him. So, uh, I listen to the chat, have any

43:46 ideas of who they want to, if somebody says, take the score, Jordan Winnington play special

43:50 teams. I mean, he can, I, uh, let's see how much we see how much special teams he played.

43:58 I mean, I'm sure he can, like he's, he's got good enough size. He's definitely not afraid

44:02 to get physical. Yeah. I think that would be interesting too. Cause he gives you like

44:06 a chain mover. They got a lot of guys like pop Douglas is more explosive. Um, you know,

44:11 we took 80 Mitchell was a downfield guy. They added KJ Osborne. Who's a downfield guy, Kendrick

44:18 born like Whittington, not to that level, but he can kind of be what you wanted Juju

44:24 to be. Maybe if he maxes out where like, he's not going to get, he's not going to be a guy

44:29 that averages 15, 16, 17 yards of catch. It's never, he's going to be, he's never going

44:34 to be a big play threat. He's never gonna score a lot of touchdowns. I've kind of compared

44:37 him a little bit. It's like rookie Jacoby Myers, where we also might be past respecting

44:41 the board for him, but like he's going to run a seven to 12 yard route.

44:45 It's going to find a hole in the coverage. You're gonna sit down. He's gonna catch the

44:48 ball and he can say your watch to it. And that's, I mean, that's it. There's not much

44:52 beyond that and it's not necessarily sexy, but there's certainly value in having a guy

44:58 that does that. And I don't think we're too far beyond respecting the board. So, yeah,

45:02 I mean, I just, I know they have so many of these like complimentary wide receivers, but

45:08 I just watching Texas, like he just, you're, you're looking at 80 Mitchell, you're looking

45:12 at Xavier worthy, you're looking at Jatavian Sanders and like so many big plays when went

45:17 to Jordan went into, and he just kind of seems like a good, he's just a good football player.

45:21 Right. And I don't know that that pick kind of, kind of intrigues me. And if you think

45:25 he can obviously provide special teams value, then you know, that's what you're also looking

45:29 for for these sixth and seventh round draft picks. So that, that, that intrigue me.

45:35 I said before, just like watching him, he's a guy that I, you can tell enjoys physicality,

45:41 enjoys the, the, the contact part of football. Uh, zero line has an airport, great teammate

45:48 willing to do the dirty work to get the job done. That's special teams player. Yeah. And

45:54 that sounds like, uh, what, what this, this coaching staff has kind of looking for, like

45:58 with all these tough, tough guys, they want toughness. So, all right. So Jordan Whittington,

46:03 I, I, this would be a great pick. This would be, I think it's a little low form, but it's

46:06 not unrealistic. This would be a great pick.

46:09 Jordan Whittington. Are you searching something or are you typing in, typing it into our, typing

46:17 it in our, uh, in our, uh, board or our own roster. While you do that, I'll pull it up

46:24 and why don't you, uh, why don't you read us back the draft here? All right. So we started

46:29 off with our quarterback. We got Drake may, uh, I love Drake may. I saw a lot of people

46:34 arguing in the comment about Drake may. I think he's got all the upside and all the

46:40 tools and the talent, uh, to be a franchise quarterback at the next level. So thrilled

46:45 that he fell to three. We ran up the card again there, and then we got him his weapon.

46:51 Later in the first round, we traded up from 34 to 27. I believe that was with the Cardinals

46:57 and we gave them a fourth and six round pick. Remember we have two six round picks from

47:01 the Mac Jones trade. Excuse me. So we use some of that ammo to go get the number one

47:06 receiver in 80 Mitchell. Uh, didn't have a second round pick because of that. And then

47:11 at 68 in the third round, we recouped some of those assets and moved back just eight

47:15 spots. Then we took our offensive tackle and Patrick Paul, that should say from Houston,

47:22 uh, then didn't have a fourth round pick, but we had back to back fifth round picks

47:26 to start the fifth round. The first two picks of, of that round. And we double dipped at

47:31 the tackle spot with Walter Rouse from Oklahoma. They then added kind of a versatile corner

47:37 who mostly plays outside and Josh Newton, uh, from TCU there. Then to the sixth round, we

47:43 got our tight end and tip Ryman, uh, big blocker, just tremendous athlete lit up the combine.

47:49 So he should be a good addition behind Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper to that room. Uh,

47:54 and then we got our edge defender, Trejon Jeff, Jeff Cope hope we're saying his, his

48:00 name, right? Trejon, uh, from Arkansas. Yeah. Um, sounds like an interesting and kind of

48:06 powerful guys. Got some interesting skillsets. So see, you know, that's what you're looking

48:11 for. Uh, the physical traits in these late round picks, see what was get them in the

48:15 building, see what he can do. And then we ended it with another wide receiver in Jordan

48:19 Weddington who, you know, you just heard us talk about a lot, but it seems like really

48:22 good value at that spot. Just made a lot of big plays for Texas and just seems like a

48:28 really good football player. So hit the first, uh, the three big needs early quarterback,

48:33 wide receiver, offensive tackle, you know, moving around the board a little bit to do

48:37 so, but then double dip at tackle, you pick up a tight end and another wide receiver.

48:42 Then you get a corner and an edge defender to add to the defensive unit there.

48:48 All right. So Brian, the question is if this was their draft, how would you feel?

48:54 I mean, if they walk away with Drake may, I'm going to feel fantastic. So at that point

48:59 I feel great. And then to get a D Mitchell too, in that, in that slot would, I think

49:06 that would just be a home run. They can do that on day one and I'll, I will walk out

49:10 a very happy. And then to add, you know, two tackles, you hope at least one of them could

49:15 kind of hit or get you through this year. Like you're using a third and a fifth round

49:18 pick on them. And then you hope may and 80 Mitchell are just home runs. And then if you're

49:23 two tackles don't hit, like tackle first round next year, lock that in.

49:28 Uh, and then I like some of these development pieces down here with tip and, and Winnington

49:33 and you see what these defensive guys can give you. Yeah, I'm with you. Look, I think

49:39 they're not going to solve everything and it's going to be really nerve wracking at

49:43 left tackle watching this unit, but one, maybe they don't play Drake may as a rookie, at

49:49 least not right away. And they let these other guys develop in which case, all right, you

49:53 got 80, you were able to get 80 Mitchell as a stud, which would be huge.

49:59 And yeah, you have to, uh, you know, yeah, you have to take some lumps this year, but

50:03 next year we go all in on the, on the tackle glass, right? Yup. I'd be pretty happy with

50:08 this at the end of the day, they added good players. I would say they definitely weaponize

50:10 the offense, all of that. So we'll see what Twitter thinks. Brian will tweet this one

50:14 out, but, uh, I don't know. I think we did okay here. Yeah, I like it. I like it. We

50:21 got some A's in the chat. I don't know if that's a good thing that we're getting a is

50:26 in the chat, but we're getting A's in the chat.

50:28 I PFF gave us a good grade, which makes me very nervous. I don't like that. I gave us

50:33 an A minus the only picks it didn't like were Walter Rouse and for John Jeff coat. And honestly,

50:40 we switched Jeff coat in Whittington, which is a lot more realistic. I think we just kind

50:44 of lost. We got a little too caught up in respecting the board there. It happens. I

50:48 definitely guilty of that. Um, but everything else that gave a B minus or better interest.

50:55 So I mean, I, I think may is an a plus in the PFF board there and Mitchell is an A plus.

51:01 Yeah. Mitchell's an a, a, those, those guys in Whittington were the only A's. So a lot

51:07 of bees. Yep. All right. So anything else, anything to wrap it up with or we can be on

51:14 our way here. Go watch some college basketball. Yeah, I think, uh, so we'll be back next week

51:19 and we'll have another one of these next Thursday and every week between now and the draft.

51:22 So fun stuff. And again, pro days, pro days are in full swaying. We'll be talking about

51:28 top 30 visits soon enough. So we are back into full draft season and we hope you guys

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